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     | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 01:06 am Come on Girls -----its only fair ----it might be more than ten things you hate about them but anyways lets hear them ok.
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 04:50 am 1 their understanding 2 their protection 3 their loving 4 their caring 5 their eyes 6 their slimness(even though some girls say skinny i love ) 7 the way they die for our honor. 8 the way they say the word macaanto finish up girls i have to go i love somali men because my father, brother friends and my future husband is one of them, they are the best men in the world.
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 05:43 am suhuur can I marry you? You are the best girl Love&respect for my real Somaliqueens(not the freaks). To the one who started this topic; Listen girl,if you have nothing positive to add'shut up'we have had enuff of this gender war.if you are frustrated wait until a decent farax comes along lol.
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 06:20 am Suhuur Allah yaa Cizak sis
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 06:25 am SUHUUR PLEASE MARRY ME....
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 07:05 am Suhur.......i like the way u changed the topic sistah........!! I luv somali men...........i luv the way they will approach us.....the way they stare at us.....the way they talk to us.....the way he keeps on callin' when u say idhaaf......and mostly the way they'll say macaaneey maxaa igu nacday....lol......they way they promise to do 'anything' for u........so many thingz our men have no other man in this world has........and i just luv it................!! Muchu kisses to somali brothaz.... adios
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 08:40 am the way they share their dreams with us the way smile at us the they say i love you the way they are so so slim the way they will never disrespect you the way they kiss the way they smell well i could go on and on but i have to go i love somalian guys tooooo
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 09:02 am well,contraversial topic huh? ok,i am gonna answer what candygirl asked if i got any. Candy girl,first of all you shouldnt be saying somali men!thats generalising whole som men.its not fair at all(you said it is fair,how?? just coz 'some dumb good for nothing' guys insulted som girls doesnt mean we should also do the same). Soomaali waxay ku maahmaahda "haddaan la kala roonaan roob ma da`o". anyway i cant comeup with 10 points you asked at all coz there arent many bad points I see in our guys,but i gotta say this: many(not all) somali guys are not HONEST!! Suhuur and Honesita, Very well said.i dont think we cant finish up all of our men great character in words!! MN man, Very well said.you sounded Great. Farax and jama, ur comments were very immature and kinda seemed like as you r implying "most somali girls dont like/love their men" as if you were taken of suprise by suhuur`s answer or as if you never saw any som girl saying/believing those points!!
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 10:40 am suuhur, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN SIS,..WELL DONE thanks and thanks and one more time thank you I will love to say merry me ,,but two brothers already a head of me...just kidding much love sister thank for that piece FOR SOMALI QUEENS SUCH AS YOU , YOU DESERVE NOTHING LESS THAN 120% RESPECT AND LOVE ONE MORE THING ( HAPPY EID TO YOU& FAMILY)
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 10:47 am jaylani, i dont think you qualify those quality suhuur mentioned.so take a hike...
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 10:47 am XX AND HONSITA, is that you ladies talking good about somali-men i'm really surprised, but it's a good surprise. well i didn't want to leave you out... SO THANK YOU for those kind words about somali-men HAPPY EID TO ALL SOMALI PPL EVERY WHERE SPECIALLY OUR SOMALI QUEENS PEACE OUT
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 10:50 am ANONYMOUS, I REFUSED TO ANSWER YOU........ IT'S EID...SOMALI LADIES TALKING GOOD... YOUR NOT GOING TO RUINE MY HOLIDAY..SORRY COME BACK NEXT WEEK....LATER KID
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 11:00 am hey Suhuur, You forgot:- - their voice - the adam's apple that moves up and down when he is holding his tongue and sparing you his anger. - how they let us always have the last word - how they let us get away with murder when it is that time of the month! - how they lift heavy objects,wash the car, change light bulbs and then bring suqaar from maqaayaadda because you are too tired to fix dinner. -and of course how they say 'macaan' I could go on, but this site is rated G
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 02:48 pm i never thought the day will come that JAYLANI will respect somali woamn....but i guess either suhuur did it or the eid sesson... anyhow good to see him positive,and respectfull to the rest of the ladies ...you said it all sisters...masha allah
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 03:23 pm they fart like you dhuusona ku dar intaas common aa laga yahay iyo kaaaaaaadida,looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 04:38 pm juslovethemguys bring the suqaar from maqaayada lol girl you got me crackin up lol.....no wonder most of the guys I know with girls go to maqaayada more often and they always broke lol good point though
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 06:41 pm And how they worry about us when they know we can take care of ourselves. How they respect our families even though they are not married to the entire family. How they treat us like a queens when we become the mother of their children. How they go through the labor when you are having a child, but the bottom line is "you get what you give" so don't blame anybody for what you have done to yourself. Nobody can summarize all the good deeds that they do for us, and we love them for everything that they do. God bless you all.
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 10:22 pm ilwaad, i agree with your 2nd point. others: 1st; well it is not always they worry you coz who you r,some som guys worry coz they think girl might affect his Respect(Sumcad).lets not forget some think girls cant take care of themselves! 3rd; lot of guys show indifferent toward their wives after getting married thinking courting period is gone and romance time is up!!well tell me how many somali families do you see going out to eat as a family or husband and wife together walking side by side(not 100 meters apart) and laughing or sharing secret smiling with one another?and yeah one more thing marrying more than one time.thats there too,some men r like that and they exist in our community. 4th; well some guys(not all)dont even go to the hospital with their wives thinking its not guy`s place or duty to be there,sending her sister/mother or any other female along with the wife.and lets not forget husband stays his own room in nice and comfy way where the wife(still in pain and unhealed) with the baby will move to another room.she, who is not feeling well, has to take care of the baby and herself.are you saying this doesnt happen in somali houses?lets be honest plz.. nobody can summarise the good deeds but lets not exaggerate and give them some credit they(not all) didnt earn. justlovethemguys, the adam`s apple movement and anger control tactics are not unique to somali guys,its with every male species,so is the male voice and keeping their patient when it is that time of the month(as you put it).but it is not like We(somalis) really know much about PMS do we?I doubt it. how the lift heavy weights change bulbs........ i completely and positively agree with you.i witnessed and believe our men are the very best in that point.no Question about it. i dont know about the "suqaar" part so no comment!
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| | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 12:41 am Anonymous what is your problem sis?is it that time of the month? There's always a bad apple out there trying to ruin it for the good ones. Get a man lonely heart.
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| | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 05:23 am anon be honest sis have ever seen man staying home while his wife is having a baby come on do not you see them walking back and front in the waiting room. about living in another bedroom is because your mom or aunt or sister want to live with you for the first few weeks so they have to move to another room since they can not sleep with their mother in laws. they sleep couch in the living room so they do not sleep in their nice and comfy bedroom you do.3rd point who is to blame us or them.we are not exaggerating we are just trying to focus how lucky we are to have such wonderful men in our society sure they are not perfect but they better than other societies.
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| | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 08:37 am bad2thebone, if there is bad apple in our men i think its you! oh you forgot your comments in other postings?? how you were attacking,understimating,insulting somali women?? and now you wanna qualify and take all good deeds of men?? nah!!! get a man lonely heart??hehehe very funny!!i thought we were having discussion here talking somali men not if girls got men or not???by the way we r not talking about our personal lives here in case you didnt notice! this shows your low perception. Suhuur, allrite lets be honest(thats what somalis need to do)!sis scroll up and see what i wrote:some guys(not all). i guess that will answer your Q! yes some r like that sis.may be you didnt see but they r there,those r older men(40s or 50s),well they happen to be somalis so you cant those dont count! if the husband is capable and will take his responsibility,i dont think any mom or sis will need to take care of their daughter/sis in need!! believe i saw som guy who even washes his wife`s dirty clothes by his hand and wouldnt let anyone take his place!! Yes they sleep in their nice comfy room not on a couch!! 3rd;you saying women r to blame??woow in what way dear??i agree in one way which is :by taking all responsibility from men,by agreeing to take off to foriegn country with kids and letting husbands stay behind,by being mom and dad to their kids, by giving men the chance and opportunity to be carefree and alone!!Yes most somalis in abroad r women and children.men stayed back in kenya,somalia or ethiopia.then they look for another wife saying "waysadaa ku dhooranayaa"  !! if he is really sincere he could go be with his wife and children or why send them in first place?? we reached a point where a child said to his mom "hooyo abtigan muxuu qolkaada u jiiftaa,abtiyaashii kaleba way iman jireen isla markaana bixi jireenne" who is the man the kid is talking about?? his own dad who he never saw or doesnt remember seeing him!! how sad!!this is real story i witnessed!! we r lucky to have our men,i believe somalis belong together but sis we should point our mistakes to one another so we can learn from them!!i agreed every single point you said in your first point sis but not these ones! you said no one is perfect,true then where r their inperfection?? now you all building Angelic figure!
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| | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 09:12 am anon do not be selfish they send their wives and kids first for better life would you rather stayed in the middle of the fire or kenya. probably you talk to senoir citizens.the guys now changed they change diapers and everything.
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| | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 10:47 am zuhuur this is beautifull sis. you make me tickle all over !!!!!!!!!. a true gentlemen loves his sisters. iam glad to see the positive postings even from the angry and tough guys like jaylaane and others. iam speechless. love ya sis be good peacen loooooov
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| | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 12:28 pm I think Anonymous is makin' sense.... No body is perfect.........guys and girlz r to blame of course for everything........no one is innocent of anything........ I hate to see single mothers.....daddy back home.......if u think life is tough in Kenya....well believe me it is tougher here......its hard for a woman to play a mom and dad figure for her kids.......its not fair either........i rather have a tough life with my husband right beside me than leavin' him to raise kids alone........in what world is it fair..!! What is even worse is men who leave thier women and go to a different 'city' just for a better job.........why did he merry me in the first place......so i can sleep at nite alone.....!! Moving to a diff. room after labor......well i think that is one of the dumpest thingz in our culture.........and a lot of pple do that........u cant really say its the men's fault or women's fault.......cuz some men will say akhas see ulaseexdaa umul.....and some women will say akhas see odeygeega iila seexdaa anoo umal ah......i dont see anything wrong with that.......its even better for him so he can get used to wakin' up at nite when the little baby cries.....!! What i think is funny is when couples get old like 40-50.....they dont sleep in the same room anymore.........WHY........!! Men pickin' up heavy stuff.......i must say i luv it......i worked with this guy once....i just fall in love with him cuz he neva let me do anything........everytime we were assigned to do something......he would rather do it and me just talk to him.......i miss that....lol...!! I aint married yet so i cant really agree on how somali men r and how they act...........i have not seen the best yet..!!! adios
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| | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 05:59 am xayat, yes i would rather stay back with my husband; first of all there is too much responsibility or work to do on my own!why do you think most of our young generations re lost???of coarse single parent!how do you expect one mother to take care of 5 kids(even though somali family average is 7),serve them their daily needs,work outside and earn their bread,pick them up from schools,cook their foods and clean them up and the house and dont forget every kid need special attention and care and hand and help with his studies(its one of the reason there re less number of somalis in colleges and university, like there are thousandss of somalis in columbus and we only got 7 students in OSU)what a irony!! secondly,if somalia or kenya is too dangerous,then dont think your husband is in danger too??how would you leave your only love behind?? i thought the marriage was for better and worse?! is that selfishness if i want my husband to be in safe place with me?? i dont think so dear. sheikh cabdi sheelaweyne, i liked your postings bro.you r right a true gentleman loves his mom,sisters,wife and daughters.and you sound like you happen to be one. Honesita, i Really admire your honesty! as i said earlier it is truly rare thing in somalis! you r right ,they r some somali guys in my city and their wives and children are in canada(one have 6 kids)!!! thats sad!! he gives excuses like i am working for them and send them all the money they could ever need! what he doesnt understand is,the wife and kids dont need just money,their need is beyond his imagination.he said older kids are teenager,if 2morrow they turn out to be vulgars and worse,who is he to blame??i believe its his own fault!!! girls r not perfect either, we have many faults we need to straighten out too. sis i believe one cannot judge all somali men based on her husband! one` husband might turn out be all the best,the rest might look so... or vise versa!! i believe you will find your match in somali men even though you didnt see the best,but they say "safe the best for last" !!
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| | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 09:03 am Anonymous....thanx 4 the compliment sistah....but do u live in columbus ohio..!!?? My brother is one of those 7 that go to OSU...and also 2 of my cousins....they're sisters....but i am not plannin' to go there.....that school is just too smart for me.....!!lol adios
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| | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 09:38 am honesita, you r welcome sis. no i am not in ohio but i got friends over there.one of them(who goes to OSU) told me they r only 7 students.i was reallly surprised.she even said, 2 of 7 re fresh men who joined this winter session!! well now i know 4 out the 7,i wonder who r the 3!! where i am at,the state university we got only 2 students and around 3-4 in community collge, worse huh?? you said that school(OSU) is too smart for you, may be you ment,as soomaalis say "oo af-carabi ah" ,which means other way round;you r too smart to go to OSU. lol
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| | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 10:11 am When his so silent over the phone cause he miss me too much, and can't wait to hold me. They way he says I love you "shawty." The night he couldn't sleep and had to come over. The night we broke--up the way he brought flowers, and said "honey I couldn't concentrate today at school, cause I was I was thinking about". the way he holds me just right. Makes me feel like a women. The way he rubes my feet, and messeges all over. The way he says I look good when I wear my qamaar. The way he came over one night when we heard I was sick with out even calling. The way he smells "ooh that scent", I could go on, but this is dedicated to my baby boo ....??? My brothers I love you all, one in particular so your all invited to the weeding??
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| | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 11:11 am To anon: I just can't beleive any man would stay home when his wife is having a baby. I got kids and remember when I held my doughter at birth it was the best time in my life, i broke down with tears, it was just so different, and over excited. I remember my wife asking me can i see her, and I brought over to her, and my wife was trying to feel her kiss her and smell her, it was just the best thing happen to me. if any man missed that it is his lose, but I just don't beleive any man would rather stay home. To honesita: yeah abaayo you havent seen the best, get your som husband(in the future). But I think it is upto the cable how they understand each other and work their differences, but like they said: Every good man there is a woman behind him.. If we have a good wife at home, we as a somalimen will take the extra step for them.
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| | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 11:25 am anon, i'm a mother of two children and i left my husband behind in kenya, do you think it was easy for me to leave him behind? no it was not but we have to make a choice.because few hundreds that families are sending is not going to go on forever it is only for a limited time, so we have to save the children, well i love my husband but i love my children more, when i was doing double shift, working,taking them to school doing the homework etc. filling father's position i knew it was not his foult to be away. honesita ili iiy duh fi naar mush zaya li iiy duh fil maya. it is very easy to say i will not leave my only love but tell me how will you stand on your solid ground and decide not to leave when you have small kids who need milk and food and you got one chance to save them. sometimes we have to sacrifice for the sake of our children.every parent want to live their kids and believe me no one leaves without a reason.tell me girls if you will safe them or if you will choose to die together as a family.
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| | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 12:59 pm I HATE: The way that they think they can go out and have fun then expect us 2 sit at home! The way that they over exaggerate about everything! The way that they never listen to you when you have problems! The way that they think you are their slave! The way that they chew ghaad! The way that they smoke, drink, sleep with whores then expect to marry a pure virgin girl! The way that they have difficulties with the word "No" The way that they never show you emotions and feel ashamed to say "I Love You" once a year! The way that they sleep all day! The way that they never buy you the smallest gift, just a card to say "I Love You" would mean the world to me. Obviously I aint after no man's money because LOVE DONT COST A THING! Well....im running out of things to say but I shall be back. By the way sahuur if you came on the Net to find a husband[as im sure you did] then your doing a fine job sista!
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| | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 01:20 pm aint,sorry sister i'm not looking a husband, but i'm sick of tired this hate.why can we accept our men who they are?i'm sure you did not see all men so do not generalize, there is good and bad but even the meanest somali man is better than thousands of other races.by the way i do not think i did extraodinary by defending my own father and brother.even if they are that bad what are you going to do about it. hurting them is not a solution tell them and show their mistakes in lovely way as anon and honesita are doing after all they are your own blood and flesh. xayaad i do not have kids but if have kids i would do anything to save their lifes.
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| | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 06:43 pm the general discusion has become infested with vulgarity , and indecency . i don't know if the people doing that are really young or they are not somalis. it's really upsettig to see some of the headings in here. so when i came to this discusion , it was a relief to see some positive messages. thanks to zuhuur and all the bros and sis that contributed to this. for the angry and mean crowd, well life is too short to let it pass you ,so take advantage of it. yesterday is history ,tommorow is mistery ,and today is gift.so be good. peace n love people
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| | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 07:10 pm lol@Anonymous.....sistah i would luv to call u a nice name that matches ur posts walaahi.....but what can i say otha than my smart anon sistah......what i meant by bein' not so smart for OSU i really meant it.....i aint no genius sis...lol.,.!! The 2 new freshmen girlz r my cousins....(kinda)....lol......and my brother is been goin' there i think since fall but he didnt go this quarter cuz of his new baby...lol.....!!! Anonymous......brotha that was very sweet walaahi........so u were the first to hold ur daughter not ur wife.......i remember when my brother's wife was in labor.....it was the ramadan that just passed.....they were both fasting......when contractions came to her....they didnt call us or my mom.....they just went to the hospital in the mornin' and called us at around 8 at nite....i swear i've never seen my brother so excited in my life.....not even the day he got married.........he was screamin'...khalid is here khalid is here.....what can i say........some men r just amazing sometimes....!!!! Xayaad......of course xabiibti il iid illi bi naar mush zay illi bil may.........i'm sure its hard to make such a choice......leave ur husband for the sake of ur kids......i'm sorry about what u had to go through sistah.......but the Anon sistah was talking about men who leave thier wives and kids for no strong reason.......like a job that pays couple of dollars more......or like most somaliis......she doesnt like the city he wants to live at...........but sistah honestly.......is life easier for u now......is it easier than when u were with ur husband in Kenya waiting for $200 from relatives...!!!! AintLying.........sistah true all those exists in 'some' somali men.....but not the majority......if u list out the bad side.....what r u gonna benefit............look at it possitively sweety.....!!! I think Suhuur was just expressin' her feelings about somali men..........not tryin' to impress anyone......did u see her leavin' her email here...!! Salaamz
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| | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 07:30 pm Xayat, well,you,like every other somali mother,thought it was for the best choice for what you did which is trying to safe your children.i know everyone one of us had passed thru those hard time in civil war and kenya.but sis i dont think those decision somali parents made were good ones. you said yourself you have to do double shift and on top of that, all of your kids` other needs.how much time could/can you spend with your children?? i dont think more than couple of hours in which you r probably in rush!!could any mother(i am talking about majority) know what her child is thinking??what is he/she involved???could the single mom share her kid`s deepest fear??? i dont think so,most of those moms after a long hard day,all they do is snap at their children!!i know it is not their fault to snap, its coz all of their neurons r fired,tired and beat!! what do you expect of those kids??do you think they r safe in here??we ran away from war and killings but those kids are in different kinda destruction which is worse in a way coz all their future including religion are ruined ,let alone if one involves in the gangs!!! how many somali moms are educated,let alone speak english??? i mean our mothers generation....very less.how many of them can help their kids with their homework?? solve maths and science Questions with them??? go to their kids` schools and talk to their teachers??go with them to museum to do assignments?? less than 0.5%!!i see mothers guided by their kids who r their tranlaters!! those kids r mentally taken from you!!! just look at this forums!! what do you see in every section of it??? full of filthy words,bad characters like being gays and i finally saw topic of "shirk" doubting existing of God!!!subxaanallah! these r our kids who were either infants or teenager or were born here!!! this is the safe place they r at!!r they safe?? i reallly wonder. other thing,when wife left husband behind,how long does it take him to come after his wife and kids?? sis,some fathers are still away from their families more than 10 years.may be a whole family couldnt afford to come out together but then why would take him forever?? or we r gonna be here and him there till we get peace back in somalia?? i dont think so. anon daddy, woow! you reminded me of my own dad!!as i am the first born and my mom had little hard time with her last months of pregnancy...she had to move in the hospital,so did my dad who stayed with her in the hospital,in which alot of somalis started insulting him saying what weak man(just imagine in those days)!! and i witnessed the same thing he did when my little bro was born.but then bro ppl are different.as you said its the man`s lose if he wasnt there.
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| | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 08:04 pm aintlyingfornobody, dont you think "Hate" word is too strong to use??? there is alot of emotions involved using that word sis.i`d rather use dislike,if you get what i mean! for your list: 1)yeah that happens in our community alot.girls r expected to stay home and guys wondering around.not fair but true. 2)exaggerate of everything??i honestly dont know exactly what this "everything" could stand for,so no comment! 3)in this point,i think its less guys who dont listen,but then we girls got our shares of stubborns too!!the rest do listen sis. 4)i strongly DONT agree with you in this point sis.i dont think any somali man thinks his woman/sis is his slave! 5)yes majority do eat/chew Qaad,and its a BIG problem in our community. 6)lots of them smoke thinking its cool to smoke.some of them drink thinking its westernising or thinking it solves your problems or some think it keeps them warm(like older men who went to italy and russia for universities). some sleep around(mostly younger generation including our generation) and of coarse expect to get clean virgin wives later.unfair but true!! 7)some do 8)this varies between different individuals.about saying the 'i love you' part, i would rather feel/see his love than words,words r sooo easy to say!!and i think and heard most somali guys say those words without meaning it or knowing the real meaning of it!!believe me if man reallly loves a woman,it will be hard for him to put his feelings in words!! 9)i dont think esp these guys in US just sleep all day,majority work too. 10 )well that depends on individuality ,i believe so we cant generalise!!
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| | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 09:23 pm suhur, aqliga gabdhihiii qaxootiga yurub iyo mareekan qaxootinimada ku yimid ka maqnaa ileen inanta aruursatey waa adiga?...well done!! P.S. i wish we had 10% just like u and probably we would have done it better.
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| | Friday, March 09, 2001 - 03:52 am LoooL Aint_Lying_For_Nobody.. I was wondering when someone was going to address the original question...One minute is was what you have about somali guys the next it turned to what you love about them....and I agree with most of the things you have mentioned...lol keep it up girl I couldn't even finish one hand counting up what I like about somali men let alone anything else..they have more cons than pros.
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| | Friday, March 09, 2001 - 05:03 am Just appreciate your MEN, who are sacrificing their lifes for YOU(women) and your children. It's about time some people recognized that. I believe we are lucky to have each other. I love my Somali sistas, I won't change them for anything including their SUURA. It's what makes them special. It's good to see a lot of positive sistas in here, it gives us hope.
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| | Friday, March 09, 2001 - 05:50 am Hello all I love all my somali sis and I will not change them for anything for the girls that dont know there somali men Iam married to a beautiful somali woman that I love with all my haert and I til her that avere day so dont say we dont til our lovly somali woman. love to you all
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| | Friday, March 09, 2001 - 06:56 am can some correct me! but the post say "GIR;LS NAME TEN THINGS YOU HATE ABOUT GUYS" Is everyone in this thread a gir;ls or what? ??? what is wrong with the picture
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| | Friday, March 09, 2001 - 06:56 am can someone correct me! but the post say "GIR;LS NAME TEN THINGS YOU HATE ABOUT GUYS" Is everyone in this thread a gir;ls or what? ??? what is wrong with the picture
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| | Friday, March 09, 2001 - 07:46 am WELL, SOMALI WOMEN IS NOT ACTUALLY THE SAME AS OTHER WOMEN, NOW WHAT I MEAN IS THAT SOMALI WOMEN HAVE SOME SORT OF ENTERPRISE TO RISE THEIR FAMILIES.SOMALI WOMEN ARE ALSO CIRCUMCISED, AND THAT MAKES THEM STRONGER AND MORE EXPERIENCED. AS A MATTER OF FACT OUR WOMAN ONCE USE TO BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE WOMEN IN THE WORLD, THIS WAS THE TIME THAT A SOMALI MAN HAVE TO GIVE THE SOMALI WOMAN 100 CAMELS WITH THEIR 100 NEW BORN BABIES ( BOQOL HALAAD IYO BAARQABKOODII). DAYS AND TIMES PASS BY, STILL SOMALI WOMEN ARE KEEPING IT REAL. ALTHOUGH THERE IS SOME OF THEM THAT PREFER TO CHANGE IN THE WEST,THEY CAN BE COUNTED WITH THE FINGERS, RARELY AND FEW. SO ITS TIME FOR US AS SOMALI MEN TO GET UP FOR OUR WOMEN AND PROTECT THEM , PROVIDE THEM , AND HAVE PASSION FOR THEM. WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS THAT OUR WOMEN SUFFERED ALOT OF PAIN BACK IN THE DAYS FROM US SOMALI MEN, AND WE NEED TO HEAL THEIR HEARTS AND MAKE THEM TO LET THEIR WORRIES GO. THINGS WE CAN DO TO CHANGE OUR WOMEN'S ATTITUDE IS;- -NO MORE HITTING OUR WOMEN -GIVE THEM THEIR FULL DOWRY -GIVE THEM THEIR FULL RIGHTS BOTH AS MUSLIM WOMEN AND AT THE SAME TIME AS SOMALI WOMEN. -LISTEN TO THEM, GIVE THEM OUR FULL ATTENTION. -MAKE LOVE TO THEM, UNDERSTAND THEM. -STOP THE DANGEROUS CIRCUMCISING. AND MANY MORE. AS THE SAYING GOES "GOOD COMMUNITY COMES FROM GOOD FAMILY". IF WE DON'T CHANGE THE WAY WE BEHAVE WITH OUR FAMILIES WE CAN'T REALLY BE A SUCCESSFULLY COMMUNITY. ALLAH SAVE THE SOULS OF SOMALIA!
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| | Friday, March 09, 2001 - 07:56 am I AGREE WITH MODEY( THERE'S A FIRST FOR EVERYHING) SUHUUR I SERIOUSLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT U MEANT EVERY WORD U SAID.. SINCE IT WAS WAT WE HATE ABOUT THEM I SHALL LIST IT FOR U.. 1- THIER SLIMNESS( DANG YO I WOULD LIKE TO BE THE WIFE FOR ONCE IN ALL RESPECTS) 2- WHILE THEY HAVE 10 KIDS AND A WIFE ALREADY THEY GO AROUND AND MARRY ANOTHER BITCH.. THERE'S JUST NO NEED FOR THAT 3- BROKENESS (U GOTS TO HAVE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF A WIFE AND YOUR KIDS AS IT SAYS IN DA QURAN) 4- THEY THINK THEY ALWAYZ RITE AND THAT NO FEMALE CAN OUTWIT THEM..(NO GUESS AGAIN I CAN AND I WILL) 5- THEY LIKENESS TO CONTROL.. NO NIGGA I DON'T THINK SO I WILL DO AS I PLEASE AIGHT.. WELL I GOTS TO GET TO MY CLASS SO I WILL BE BACK LATER TO OBSERVE YOU LATER ON P.S. I HATE THE WAY THEY DON'T EVEN BOTHER TO KNOW HOW THEIR KIDS ARE COMING ALONG IN SCHOOL
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| | Friday, March 09, 2001 - 08:06 am american gal every point you made except for # 1 can also be said about adon men....bitch which school do u go to anyway ? let me take a guess (THE INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL FOR RETARDED AFRICAN CHILDREN)
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| | Friday, March 09, 2001 - 09:55 am drifter, You said "Just appreciate your MEN, who are sacrificing their lifes for YOU(women) and your children. It's about time some people recognized that" . in case you didnt notice,the topic wasnt about somali women`s appreciation of their men! far from it.and what men sacrificed for their women and children since the civil war?? i think it is about time somali men Appreciated and recognized what somali women(esp your mothers) for their men!! str8upsista and modey, thanx for reminding us, we r off the topic!what can i say??thats what we somalis always do. Mujahid, your comments impressed me! you really sadi it bro. but bro i dont think circumcision made somali women stronger!!!it is just something in their gene! even though i am not sure if the younger generations(boys and girls) did inherit that genes.may be some of us did! american gal, 1)i dont think physical appearance matter,wether one is slim and trim or fat or well build!you might still be young who thinks looks are everything but you will see one day. 2)you r right in this point,it happens in our community alot esp older men(may be when younger men will get older they might follow same foot steps too)!! 3)being broke is not for everymen.some men(majority) do work and earn. 4 and 5)yeah some guys r like that. PS: your PS is true ,lots of parents esp fathers(as most mothers are illiterate) are indifferent toward their kids` studies.
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| | Friday, March 09, 2001 - 12:39 pm honesita life is not easy speaking about being a single mother. but at least now i can help my children to become doctors and lawyers or whatever career they choose but i would not be able to help them if i stayed in kenya.do not put all the blame on men's shoulder, i have seen women not few but walaahi a lot who do nothing but going to weddings and visiting friends leaving their husbands to take care for everything not only one night but every single night.have you seen them? thinking being a single again will give them their freedom. sorry but once you have a child no more freedom. anon, can you one minute imagine being a mother have a children and do not know what tomorrow is going to look like, believe me you will take the first plane that is leaving. true most single mothers are not educated but they are not old they in their 30's.they can go to schools and learn something,if i did every somali woman can do.all i'm saying is the blame is 50/50.
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| | Friday, March 09, 2001 - 05:06 pm Girls, no man is worth your tears and the only one who is, will never make u cry....
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| | Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 02:47 pm Xayaad, life is not easy wether one is single or married or with and without kids.and we all dont know what tomorrow is going to look like,every one`s tomorrow is mystery whether it`l be good or bad. and believe me we went thru that whether we were the parents or children!!some of us matured thru civil war worrying whats gonna happen to their families!we missed our teen years,becoming 2nd parents to our small brothers and sisters.thats life sis. true most somali mothers r illiterate and their age varies from 30-60s.and most of them r having hard time to learn how spell let alone the language.i dont think they could really pull it out andi dont blame them as many of them didnt have any previous education. but i dont see why you still defending men`s failures in our community.i guess it is our fault they will never learn from their mistakes as we dont point out to them!! PS:what single mothers gonna do/say when 2morrow they`ll find out their husbands married another one??or how long is the waiting period??
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| | Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 08:38 pm Shall I proceed..........Yes Indeed "MEN ARE LIKE STONES SCATTERED EVERY WHERE SOMALI MEN ARE LIKE DIAMONDS PRECIOUS AND RARE". Always remember that ladies.......Walk with our men and you will never walk alone.
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| | Sunday, March 11, 2001 - 01:55 pm xayaat 50/50...Is good to hear! i am disorientated and confused about my future, just like most girls are affraid of this single life after marriege thing so am i... i won't get married now not as long as i am confused... who ever planned my confusion is winning cos it will give the required aim of me not having any kids...""consperacy"" at 25 i can't keep hoping and fighting the chemicals which have been designed to force me to seek copulation... we are not helping each other by being here we are only scaring each other... i came here with a well defined aim and goal, now i don't even know why i need to work harder then is necassary for myself. This place is contaigous and infectous to the innocent mind
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| | Sunday, March 11, 2001 - 02:56 pm I just hate the way their •••• feels.....or should I say their lack of "equipment" no disrespect to the ones I already HAD(u know yo'self)
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