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CYBERLOVER

Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 11:35 am
I repeat, this goes to only of those of you who don't see things in black and white.

Here's my dilemma my dear people:

I am a young Somali man with a relatively very decent life in somewhere in usa/canada. People see me as a hard working, successful and social man. I am not a typical social person but I can get along with you if we get stuck in an elevator for hours. I do have a woman (wife) in my life and we love each other dearly. The problem is that I've been hiding something from my wife and my best buddies for so long. It was not my intention to share this with you when I first came to the forums this afternoon. I just felt to take some load off my chest!

It may look strange to you but I have a very mystery woman in my life. I never saw her and she has her own life. This woman was one of my online buddies since 1998. First, we were good online friends and neither of us cared about other person's real life. But sometime between late 1999 and early 2000, we developed attraction to one another. We started to talk about the "L" word and how people misuse it. One thing led to another until we became as close as any two people could come. Did we ever talk on the phone? yes, we talk on the phone almost every day and we exchanged pictures. We have each other's work number. She is in my mind every time and feels the same about me.

Sometimes, we spend lunch hours in our offices or drive our cars to parking lots just to talk. This may sound a pure fantasy but we really love each other very much. It is not about sex, looks or any other thing but understanding. This lady is the only person who knows me really. She knows me more than my parents and my wife.

We both know that it is not worth to disband two families just to get what we want. We are confused and don't know how long we can survive like this. The sour pill of this fantasy life is that it affected our real lives. We both became quiet, unhappy and reserved when we are with our real life families and friends. We cannot talk about this to anyone. Somalis are Muslims and have a very strict culture in which no one can talk about extra marital affairs (We did not commit any sin) but we both have spouses while we spend so much time on each other. I cannot go to my wife and say "Honey, I have two lives" She (the mystery woman) once told me that she'll commit a suicide if her parents or husband find out about our relationship since she will not be accepted in the society anymore.

Having said what I've just said, I am ready to take criticism and harsh words from you. However, I will not answer to all flames.

I am just like everyone else, the only problem is that I have two opposing lives and it is very hard for me give either one up.

CYBERLOVER

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dhooore

Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 12:08 pm
So what is the problem? Ya can marry 2 wifes...
Make her your second wife simple is dat........

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Guilty

Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 12:17 pm
i agree with u

married both of them aight...

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LEE

Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 12:37 pm
mr lover i understand that you have fealings for
her and she has fealins for you but both of you
have spouses , it could have been ok if she was not married but since she has my advice to you
could be leave her alone now if you really care
about her, it would be very hard for you two to be
to gether if not imposible and if you did you guys
could hert many ppl on the process,boro LOVE IS NOT A FEALING IT'S DECISATION so my advice to you
would be decide to love your wife and stop this other relationship now before it's too late .

hope you make wise decistion ,

good luck.

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sagal

Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 12:39 pm
cyberlover.....my dear first and for most may Allah bless u.

as i understand u are already married,and u claim to be happy with her,ur mystery lady as well has a husband and a family.

b4 i give u any answer i want to know...r u willing to give up ur family to be with this woman for eternity?

before u answer that,think about the woman at home waiting for u,she trusted and gave u her life.i suggest u end this asap and go to ur wife to seek for forgivness.
and most of all from Allah.

sometimes married couple go thru this,u kinda have a problem at home or ur wife doesnt talk to u as much as b4.but u have no reason to betray her trust.
seek some counseling with ur wife as well and try to rekindle the fire in ur life.
make ur sex more passionate.
take a trip somewhere romantic....i promise u will fall in love alover again.

i wish u all the best.

sagal

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puzzled sister

Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 12:42 pm
Cyberlover


having said all that crap,we wish you a happy solution solving!

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A-te

Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 02:30 pm
Cyberlover, your story really hit me. Because I know exactly what you are talking about... And I am also prepared for harsh words here... :O I met a man for exactly 2 years ago and we became very close. I fell in love with him even though I could see that he was not a good man. He stepped on me, and not only me, so many times, but no matter how hard I tried to forget about him I just couldn't. We talked on the phone almost every day, and also spent several hours chatting online every single day. We laughed, argued and talked about life in general, but mostly about his problems... And religion...
I caught him in lies almost every day, but he was good at defending himself and talk his way out of it. Yes, he was good with words, and he knew exactly when to turn on his charm and use his fake nice words... And I, stupid fool, chose to close my eyes to it every single time even if I heard the alarm bell ringing almost constantly.... And I supported him. Over and over again... BECAUSE; I got addicted to it, his e-mails were like dope to me. I almost forgot about my family, my child, my man, my everyday life. My life was narrowed down to the few hours
I spent online daily talking with him. My computer became the most important thing in my
everyday life. I got depressed if I missed one day online with him. To make a long story short, I moved from my man and finally we could meet. I couldn't understand why I didn't feel any passion when I finally got him in my arms.... Because I did love him, didn't I?? We live far away from each other and we continued to e-mail each other after he got back home. But something had changed... I thought it was him but now I know it was me. When I finally found him out here and saw what a gameplayer he is (as if I didn't know!), I realized that I had never loved him. I actually fell in love with my computer, and not the person. I was hooked in a dream world. Carried away from my boring and normal everyday life.... To a world full of fantasies and unattainable promises.... What a waste of time...and tears... It's bitterly to know that I wasted 2 years of my life on a loser... Well-well-well! WELCOME BACK TO REAL WORLD! "No man is worth your tears and the only one who is will never make you cry"... That's my new motto in life, and I will follow these words like a slave! You never know who you meet out there, so please folks, promise me that you will be careful! And don't forget your REAL life! The right man/woman for you is probably not in cyber but in your own neighborhood somewhere.... In the REAL WORLD! I know, because I have finally found him (I hope!). Right here in my own neighborhood. And guess what; This may sound strange to you after reading my story, but I met him here on Somalinet... Nothing wrong with meeting a person in cyberworld as long as you get the chance to meet the person in the real world the same day.... :O So I guess I should be grateful to my ex cyberlover after all, huh?
After all he was the one who guided me to this site... Well, more correctly, his nightmare so kindly did.... :O
So my advise to you Cyberlover; Cut the cord, and do it NOW! Or you will end up like me! And believe me, IT'S NOT WORTH IT!

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Honesita

Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 03:45 pm
Cyperlove.......brotha when i was reading ur post.....i was thinkin' the only solution to this guy's problme is if he marries this mysterious girl....its xalaal for him anyway........but when u said 'we both have spouses' i was like 'ba ayeeeeeeeeeeeeeey'......!! Brotha if the girl is single......Allah made it xalaal for u 2 marry more than one..........but she IS MARRIED........shame on her........and u too for getting involved with a married woman brotha..............but anyway........A-te had the same experience as urs.......so take her advice and cut the cord b4 its too late........also do what Sagal said.......bring back the love in ur marriage life..........this woman u sleep in bed with everynite thinks she's the only one.....she's the one who is there for u so think about her too......its not fair u know........how would u feel if it was ur wife who had this relationship with a mysterious online pal.......think 2wice aboow......i wish u nothin' but luck........!!!

adios

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Rahma

Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 03:48 pm
Cyberlover, I understand you love this lady, but that's your problem, she's married you should never but yourself situation like that, falling for married woman, come on man that's wrong, it doesn't get any lower than this. don't hate me because I am being honest, as a Muslim brother you should never make move on a girl who has a husband, I don't know what's wrong with you people but don't you see she can't have another man because she's already got one. get a life alright.

Call me close minded because I don't see the grey area in your story.

Once friend of mine give me this advise and now I am giving to you. •••• happens so get over okay.

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Governo

Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 05:18 pm
Cyberlover...most people are very wise the way they responded to you ,the other youg lady she is married too leave her along ..may be her husband love her very much and she is not telling you the truth her side ,what about if your wife someone else is doing to that...and you love her dearly . even is going to be worst if you have children with your wife bad example for your children... before you marry your wife she was friendly and happy conversations what happen now what is the matter ..life has its ups and downs...take deep breath and make your family the best you can be.unless you hiding something..if your wife loves you and faithful to you...you damn wrong.. get out this bad dream and clean your act...and leave alone this woman and her family..change the arrogent behavior toward your wife be kind to her
be good husband and good father...and if you not happy with your family ...I don't see in your statement make your family happy ..please brother don't break up two families ...May Allah put your family peace and happiness and productive one. Aamin thank you

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FAHAD

Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 05:19 pm
Mr cyber your story shocked me but i'm not here to criticize you but to help you prevent your self big tragic that is coming on you or your going to it.

Mr cyper you claimed that you know your lover allot but i think it's not enough,how come you belive some body that is cheating on her husband now,how come you accept to kiss some body that kisses two guys at one time.

Besides that who give you guarantee that she'll never fell in love another cyperworld baby after you.don't say she loves you,yes she might NOW but as A-TE admitt you will be welcomed on the real world.

Over all of that how do you feel(honestly take a moment)if you discover that your wife is in love with some body alse. (you don't have
to confess loud)but please donnot follow your (naf)always be realistic and remember that we are muslim's.

In islam it's a big crime(sin)for a wife to cheat her husband as well as the husband.and the rasuul said scw (kamaa tudiinu tudaan)you will be treated as you treat,if you cheat on your Mystry wife for a jusr cyper girl,she will(cypergirl)leave you for another cyper prince.

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Basra

Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 05:22 pm
lolpuzzle sister wow that was so cute and funny.

Cyberlover

All i want to say is...I hate cheaters! That means i hate you too.


Buh Byeeee!

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Sagittarius

Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 07:54 pm
Cyber love and A te,

Instead of giving an advice, I'd rather ask you a question, since I am headed now where you had been before, of getting married to my fiancee soon. What one should be aware in their marriage, before being carried away by.....? As you obviously had been carried away, I guess! If you'd have to do it all over again, what would you have given priority, or done differently?

Analyzing my question would really help a lot.

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manaxe

Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 09:20 pm
tuug baa tahay naag maskiin ah baa guriga kuu fadhido oo cunto kuu sameysas oo ku jecel oo wax walba kuu qabata shaqo baa ka imaataa markaas baa qadda da miiska laguu saaraaa markaas bey ku dhowrtaaaaaaaaaaaa, alla nasiib daranaa midaaaaaaaaa,
walaale waxaan ku weydiin adigu ma jeclaaan laheyd waxa aad sameysey in ay la sameyso ninkale. Markaa taa iiga jawaabto baan ku jawaabi.
it is really shame walaahi, gabadhaa aad qabto ee daacadda ah ee miskiinta ah ee aan waxba ogeyn iyo nacaskaan qaba ee meeshaan ka dhawaaqaya baan la yaabanahay,
the whole thing is unacceptable to me as i cant believe you are what ye claim to be, a succeesfull man ma thid, ye are a loser baa tahay walaahi kitaabka baan ku dhaaran anoon ku aqaan.
just for the simple reason that ye lack the intellect of a successful man,
besides i dont think you have a wife at all, i hope it to be that way.

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Mahdi

Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 09:21 pm
Cyber love.. my brother common.. the woman is married, and the most of people here gave you a good advises.
Maybe someone loves her(her husband, and maybe kids..)as much as you do...You would felt bad if your wife did same to you.
By best advice to you bro is, there are two families involved in this, don't break them up!! there is nothing wrong to love some one, but you have to be able to control yourself, and think about you have wife and kids behind you, they depend on you. I would say just spend as much time with your wife, and talk to her, go back to the bases, what brought you together at the first time..stand by example for your kids, grow with them watch them growing up... Tell the mystery woman, I will like you as a friend but there can not but more that, make her understand you know!!... Brother I hope you make the wise choice, and really control yourself from outsiders because this is one of the tests you go through when you became married..
GOOD LUCKY.. and remember safe our Somali families, there are not many of them those days that last too long...

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ninxoon

Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 09:23 pm
manaxe baa naxay oo calool jilecay maxaaba dee kuu harey, manaxihii dadka ceyn jirey baaba sheekadaada ka naxay loooooooooooooooooooooooool

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Anonymous

Sunday, March 11, 2001 - 12:05 pm
WAAR WAS HADAAD NIN TAHEY... NAAGTADANA ISKA HEYSO... BIT OF DESERT OUT SIDE THE HOME IS COOL BRO... MOST MEN DO IT AND GET AAWAY WITH IT... IF YOU ARE DEEENI MAN THEN MARRY BOTH OR DIVORCE THE FIRST... TO STAY WITH HER WHEN YU DON'T FEEL GOOD BEING WITH HER MEANS YOU HAVE THE ISLAMIC GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO DUMP HER UGLY ASS...

ALTERNATIVELY TELL HER GO ON SOME SPECIAL DIET AND YOU WILL NEVER THINK ABOUT ANOTHER WOMAN AGAIN... WHEN SHE LOOKS LIKE JANETH JACKSON AFTER THE WEIGHT LOSS... :O

SHE WOULD DIVORCE YOU IF YOU COULD NOT GIVE HER DICKATION SATISFACTION AND THAT IS HER RIGHT IN ISLAM...SO DO THE SAME... READ UP ON DEEN AND YOU WILL FIND A PERFECT SOLUTION....... THESE GAALS IN HERE WILL ONLY CONFUSE YOU DUDE...OPEN YOUR OWN MIND...

KEEP YOUR SMELLY ASS OF A MOUTH SHUT ...IDIOT... JUST GO AND HAVE YOUR FUCKING CAKE AND EAT IT...

:)

NACEES

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Anonymous

Sunday, March 11, 2001 - 08:06 pm
CyberLover, Shame on you brother, put yourself in the shoe of her husband, will you? now how would you feel about it? Did you really wanted someone saying that he had a relationship to your wife..your childern's mother? This is very emotionaly and be advised sooner or later the guy will find out and guess what! Your wife is about to go nats now. As the prophet said, "A Jazaa'u min jizyil camal" Your work determines the kind of rewards you get, so by cheating on someone else's wife, your wife is might be cheating on you or because suspciuos and sooner ask you for divorce. Think about it again and if you think it's worth it, don't regret when you got the consequences, after all, you're accountable for whatever happens to both your family and her family xisaabta Ilaahey wey kuu harsan tahay

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Anonymous

Monday, March 12, 2001 - 05:56 am
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anon

Monday, March 12, 2001 - 05:57 am
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Anonymous

Monday, March 12, 2001 - 06:31 am
Hi cyberlove
how are doing what you doing is in propriate behaviour firest of all. I think you don't love your wife if your cheating and that is un fathful. seconly I strongly bleave that love that your mationing that you said you have your wife I don't think it exist anymore. walaal I srongly suggest leave the ather women alone and be fathful to your Xalaal wife.
what you guys diong is breaking two families which I think is not worthed.

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Coz-I-Care

Monday, March 12, 2001 - 07:18 am
To Cyberlover:

Every marriage has his ups and downs and little own story and problems..That is normal thing, but let me ask you this brotha how come you love some1 who is already married to some1 else???Don't you think that is Haraam to do it?? I think and believe what you guys having is infatuation not love...

Coz luv does not tell us to cheat on our partners, or to hurt them, or maybe to be selfish by only thinking about ourselves and not considering our loved ones.. I think if you really love your wife you wouldn't do this to her all this cheating you would simply tell her what is going on instead of commiting sins...We only afraid who we can see but NOT who CAN see us ALWAYS..and that is ALLAH.....Who knows this mystery lady who came into your life easily yesterday and she might be leaving you easily later on..But if you have a beautiful relationship with your wife who is xalaal to you why you want to risk or jeopradize that by losing it Take the advice our sister SAGAL gave you b4 ..and Spice it up little if it is worthy....However if you don't see it that way then you don't need to give her hope just tell her that you done with her and move on and make it xalaal with the other woman.

I want to conclude..Feel what eva your heart is telling you.. Coz no one knows better what you really want walaalo....You might ask us advice but you will be take it ONLY if you like it...Well you know what is best for you ...And my allah help you find a solution that is all we can do for you!

Pray Pray PRAy!

You don't know what you have till you loose it!

No hard feelings, and if i offended you in some way forgive me ..

Till then May ALLAH forgive us for all our SINS .......

Peace and luv to you all
Your Somali Sista

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modey

Monday, March 12, 2001 - 07:55 am
*yown*

Did someone mension love... i guess you all are refering to the somali kinda of "love"... no existant and much sought after commodity in our community.

I say it all depends on your needs man... follow your lower half forget the brain it is a useless friend on men in particular...

Have fun bro... life is short and not really too sweet at most... i don't want you coming back here and telling us you lost both... i would only laugh at your foolishness :)

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CYBER-L

Monday, March 12, 2001 - 08:25 am
My dear friends,

Thank you very much for your support, opinions and criticism.

All of your arguments are well taken. However, a very few people such as a-te can really understand what is it like to get hooked on some1 you met online. Is it love? I don't know but what i know is that this lady is part of my life now!

I promise to come back to this conversation sometime today/tonight and address the three camps here.
1- Those of you who believe in love but impose limits of when and how it.
2- Those of you who put love and emotions aside and talked about morals.
3- Those of you who came from religion/culture angle.

I wish I had more time now. At least I am happy now because your feedback is not as bad as what I anticipated.

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CYBER-L

Monday, March 12, 2001 - 08:27 am
correction:( limits on it "how and when to love"

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FARXAAN

Monday, March 12, 2001 - 01:26 pm
Cyber: Somalis say "jin ninkii keenaa bixiya" Both of you do not deserve your spouses' love. Good luck bro.

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T-GIRL

Monday, March 12, 2001 - 01:44 pm
All I wanna know is where's the hell your wife at? Brother I would advice you to try to get to know her because it ain't worth it to blow your marriage and your current wife's trust and loyalty over a "cyber fling".
True U R allowed to have 2 wives but find out more info about the MYSTERY WOMAN B4 U commit to her..........coz for all you know she could be a 99 yr old granny with no fanny......If ya catch my drift..............:O

PEACE

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Anonymous

Monday, March 12, 2001 - 03:13 pm
T-girl he said they already met!!! and the woman is married!!! c'ommon there is nothing find out!! leave her alone!!!

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CYBER-L

Monday, March 12, 2001 - 04:36 pm
As I promised, I am here again. Let me try to answers to your questions and remain anonymous at the same time. Is she 99 yrs old? No, at least she doesn't type like 99 yr old. Remember I said she knows me more than anyone else in this world? That goes both ways. Our brains are almost synchronized - I can guess her answer with over 90% accuracy before I ask her a question.

I think love is something that cannot be understood fully. It has many colors and comes with different flavors. Do you believe in love? If no, please skip this paragraph. If you believe in love, my question to you is "were do you stop?" let's admit that no matter how faithful you are to your spouse, there are times when you think of other people - someone like your high school classmate, your dentist or that model on TV. People always mix love with marriage. Most people get married for other reasons than love. If we all married for love, there wouldn't be a high divorce rate among this continent's people. We all marry for circustances with conditions and compromises. Would you leave if your spouse commits a sin? If yes, where's the love you had for that person? My love to this lady is that I feel as if she was made for me but I cannot get her. She is the only person to whom I can talk for hours. To answer those of you who said what if she cheats on you, I love this lady and that would not change my feelings toward her. I would restrain myself if she says leave me alone as I am restraining myself. Would I leave my spouse for her? This conversation is answer to your question. If it had a simple answer, I wouldn't be typing all this crap as one of you put it.

Morals:
You asked me about this lady's husband and my wife. They are very lucky because it is us who are hiding things and worrying all the time. It is me who's typing all this crap, not my wife. This lady's husband is also happy with his life when she and I are confused and don't know what to do with our secret lives. I think we are the victims of this relationship. You said what if my wife does the samething - my wife is a human being and we'll never know if there's someone while with me.

Religion/culture
Well, I did not commit any sin and there's no Ayah or Hadith that says you cannot fantasize about other people. There's one story in the Kitab in which a very handsome prophet was loved by so many married women. Did these women commit any sin? I don't think so. They only expressed what was on their minds. Remember Elmi Bodery? Hodan was married when his love to her reached its peak.

Again, thank you very much for putting up with me. I thought you were gonna eat me alive but you showed me a very warm heart. Thanx to all of ya.

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KAAFI

Monday, March 12, 2001 - 06:21 pm
salam all

Now this cyber phobia (AMUURATI) is coming dangerouse game. how could even some 1 with human brain could think about what Mr Cyber has done, it's ilegal, immoral and very very low self steam. but for most I think u are to crack a JOKE sxb if u are 4 real about this story, then WALLAHI u have BIG battle in your hand, and I will say to u it's time 4u to wake up and "smell the coffee" coz u are in haluzinating son.

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suad

Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 05:04 am
KAAFI, i disagree with you. what these people have done is non illegal in any country in the world. It is not Haram either. Maybe it is immoral.

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Roda

Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 05:15 am
Suad he is seing some1 that he is not allowed to be with ..And that is HARAAM sis coz we are muslim unless some of us ONLY has that as a TITLE heh??

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Dr.Who

Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 06:55 am
If the story is the way I understood these people do not see each other. There are black/white and grey areas in every law and religion, and this is is not black/white situation. We cannot use the word Haram in situations like this because these people don't even see each other let alone having a sexual affair. I don't approve this relationship on moral grounds, other than that I don't think these people have done something extremely bad. They are not the first people to love someone when tied to another person, neither are they the last. Life goes on..

To the fellow who is going to get married soon, I would suggest that you think hard before you tie that knot. Look at your friends who got married before you and see if they are happy with their new lives. Your marriage also needs patience, understanding and honesty from both sides.

My advice to our friend cyber and his mystery woman would be work out on something, the further you wait, the more complex it gets. In the mean time, be very careful. Your lives are in danger. Most people who get killed in the USA are killed by their spouses/former spouses or their b/g/friends/ old b/f/friends. You are safe now, but you can be in big trouble if one of the cheated finds about the situation. Don't tell your spouses about this because they will never trust you again. If you decide to stop it, just stop it without opening your mouth about it. Keep your lips zipped. My only question is "Do your spouses love you very much? If yes, you must look over your shoulders, love can lead to crime.

Good luck -

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tanade

Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 08:07 am
cyberlove, I've got couple of questions for you:
1) is the other women somali or adan?
2)and are you okey! in the head?
aren't you muslim to know the diferce between wrong and right?
man all I can say is your fucked up in the head and you deserve to DIE.

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BEY0NCE...

Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 08:10 am
CYBER LOVER I WOULD ADVISE YOU TO READ A POSTING THAT ANOTHER GUY WROTE.....TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT SHE DECIEVED HIM BECAUSE FOR THE FUN OF IT..
REALLY THOUGH YOU HAVE A LOVING WIFE (I DON'T BELIEVE IN LOVE THOUGH) AND YOU ARE FANTIZING ABOUT A MYSTERY WOMEN...THAT'S ALL SHE WILL EVER BE AND WHEN U UNCOVER THE MYSTERY YOU WILL BE LIKE HOW DID I EVER THOUGHT THIS WAS TRUE LOVE...
because it's simply not... your life is boring and u are looking for a new excitement but that's about it... if u are willling to sarcifice your marriage for a fling then by all means go ahead..
the best we can do is give you advise and you can do watever it is you desire and if you desire the mystery women over your wife then their is a problem because both of you are married...
and wat will you say to you wife..."honey i have met and fallen in love with another women so i have come to the decision to divorce you??"
and then she will be so grateful to be freed of the only man she ever loved....no it's not very hurtful to see you husband with another women...
but hey that's you...
p.s. i would advise you to put your wife in your shoes... and see wat u come up with...
ciao

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DonQuixote

Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 10:11 am
Mr Cyber

You are in a delima and u sure need some advices!

Here are some from a very experienced guy:

*Shoot your foot - for fantasizing!
*Cut your fingers - all - for tricking your dame!
*Eat your tongue for telling it all to us!
*Slap your cheeks for this 'tongue-in-cheek' bit!
*Tear off your hair for the agony you have!
*Cry for being in the lot of Hodan/Bodhari et al!
*Get hot for being so cool!
*Dont break but brake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With your shot feet, cut fingers, eaten tongue, hearless scalp and Amoorato nature, you got only one thing remianing not to break but to come to a screeeeeeeeeeeeching brake!!!!

Your head! Use it! Love your dame! Be at home after work and fantasize only about her! Do the above and yours is the solution!

If it doesnt work, post me! I will put on my armour, pass by the mill and bring u messages from Hodan, Bodhari, Qais and Layla and recite heart melting duos that will make u oggle and oggle at only your own Hodan who is at home -always- while u are tomboying here and there!

Peace to you bro!

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I hope I helped

Tuesday, March 13, 2001 - 05:47 pm
CyberLover

Well to say the least it is an awarak situation in which you have gotten yourself to. I'm kinda in the same situation as to where I can not be with someone I love....not because I'm married to him, but for the simple reason I can't, but that's a discussion for another topic.

In a situation like this and I was man, I would ask myself do I love the woman I met enough to want to be with her, or do I love her enough not to destroy what she has with her husband and the happiness of her family. But also remember your wife and if you have children think about them too. Sometimes it's best we let go of the things we love as it's not worth disappoint our closest ones...but remeber only SOMETIMES.

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naadia

Wednesday, March 14, 2001 - 04:51 pm
naadia
to the help seeker
brother i am so sorry that you going though all
of what is going on with you but let say do what
you think is the best for every one who infolfe
this and i wish you the best

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arawello

Friday, March 16, 2001 - 12:55 pm
cyperlover,
could u just read wat u wrote? it sounds like u r trying to convince urself of wat u r doing. u r rationalization ur behaviour which u recogonize to be both immoral and wrong. u and i both know wat u r doing is wrong and u realize it too, or otherwise u would not sound so defensive or tense. if this "mystery" woman loves so much and u her y r u not 2gether. u r both fooling urselves and u r ruining the lives of the ppl who love and depende on u. y don't u for once in ur live be a man and stop being so selfcentered and selfish and take care of ur family or leave them alone b4 u ruin and destroy thierlives. u r a disgusting little vermin and its men like who give other men bad names and ruin good somali women like ur wife.

love and tke care of each other my ppl
peace
arawello

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