     Horseed | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 06:42 am
Somalia
The Majeerteen Sultanates
Farther east on the Majeerteen (Bari) coast, by the middle of the
nineteenth century two tiny kingdoms emerged that would play a
significant political role on the Somali Peninsula prior to
colonization. These were the Majeerteen Sultanate of Boqor Ismaan
Mahamuud, and that of his kinsman Sultan Yuusuf Ali Keenadiid of
Hobyo (Obbia). The Majeerteen Sultanate originated in the
mideighteenth century, but only came into its own in the nineteenth
century with the reign of the resourceful Boqor Ismaan Mahamuud.
Ismaan Mahamuud's kingdom benefited from British subsidies (for
protecting the British naval crews that were shipwrecked
periodically on the Somali coast) and from a liberal trade policy
that facilitated a flourishing commerce in livestock, ostrich
feathers, and gum arabic. While acknowledging a vague vassalage to
the British, the sultan kept his desert kingdom free until well
after 1800.
Boqor Ismaan Mahamuud's sultanate was nearly destroyed in the middle
of the nineteenth century by a power struggle between him and his
young, ambitious cousin, Keenadiid. Nearly five years of destructive
civil war passed before Boqor Ismaan Mahamuud managed to stave off
the challenge of the young upstart, who was finally driven into
exile in Arabia. A decade later, in the 1870s, Keenadiid returned
from Arabia with a score of Hadhrami musketeers and a band of
devoted lieutenants. With their help, he carved out the small
kingdom of Hobyo after conquering the local Hawiye clans. Both
kingdoms, however, were gradually absorbed by the extension into
southern Somalia of Italian colonial rule in the last quarter of the
nineteenth century
THE NORTH-EASTERN SOMALILAND SULTANATES
The north-eastern sultanates of Majeerteen and Hobyo developed a very effective political organization with diversified measures of centralized authority over relatively large territories. Italy, Britain, Germany and France had been trying to solicit them into their sphere of influence since the early days of their competion for the Somali peninsula. In the closing decades of the 1880s Germany was the first colonial power to have built a special relationship with the Majeerteen.
To the other colonial powers' surprise however, on 7 April 1889, it was Italy who concluded a treaty of protection with the Majeerteen sultanate, having only a few months before, in December 1888, signed a similar treaty with the Hobyo sultanate.0 The protectorate agreements were renewed by the Majeerteen on 7 April 1895 and on 11 April 1895 by the Hobyo.
The treaty terms clearly stipulated that Italy was not to interfere in the internal affairs of the sultanates,0 and in order to promote the Italian Government and the sultanates' interests, Italy agreed to send commissioners to both sultanates.
By accepting Italy's protection in December 1888, Sultan Yusuf Ali of Hobyo was planning to use Italy's support in his dispute with the Sultan of Zanzibar over the border region north of Warsheekh. He was also interested in using this support against Boqor Osman of the Majeerteen Sultanate with whom he contested control over the Nugaal Valley. As a countermove against Sultan Yusuf Ali, Boqor Osman Mahamud also accepted Italy's protection. They had both signed the protectorate agreements for their own expansionist objectives, and, by exploiting the conflicting interests among competing powers, to avoid direct occupation of their territories by force.
However, the relationship between Hobyo and Italy was complicated when Sultan Yusuf Ali refused the Italian proposal to sanction a British contingent of troops to disembark at Hobyo to pursue their battle with the Daraawiish (see above) in April 1903. Because of this controversy, Sultan Yusuf Ali and his son Yusuf Ali were eventually deposed by the Italians and deported to Assab in Eritrea0
Conflict of Interest
The sultanate of Majeerteen lay on the utmost tip of the Horn. To the north was the Red Sea, in the east there was the Indian Ocean. To the south of Majeerteenia stretched the Nugaal Valley. To the west British Somaliland.
To define their zone of influence, the Italian and British administrations signed the Anglo-Italian Treaty of 5 May 1894 which defined the Majeerteen Sultanate as being east of the 490 Meridian. The line fell to the east of Taleh and Baran. In 1906 Cavalier Pestalozza and General Swaine signed an agreement recognising Baran as under the Majeerteen sultanate.0 Among other things, the Anglo-Italian treaty stipulated that the Italian government be responsible for any act committed by the Majeerteen against the people under British protection.0 All these dealings were taking place behind the backs of the peoples concerned.
In March 1901, Boqor Osman extended his border by capturing two small towns in the Mudug region. The Mudug was an area regarded as Sultan Yusuf Ali's realm. As both sultans were under Italian protection, the contention prompted Giulio Pestalozza, the Italian Consul at Aden, to sail to Baargaal, the seat of the Majeerteen court, to press Boqor Osman to retreat and respect the treaties. Boqor Osman refused to give in.0
The matter worried Italy and it reasoned that unless Boqor Osman was brought under their directive they feared they could not control the sultanate. Misunderstanding and distrust was in the making. The conflict of interest was leading to confrontation as each side began accusing the other.
Whilst the situation was still in confusion, the Italian Minister in Cairo intercepted a letter from Boqor Osman seeking Ottoman protection over what the latter termed the "Independent Majeerteen Somali."0 Furthermore, Italy learned about the sultanate's arms build-up. Before it was too late, Italy decided to breach the treaty and to bring Boqor Osman to his knees. The Volta ship bombarded the coastal villages of Bareeda and Bender Khassim (Boosaaso), crippling the sultanate's modest arms and ammunition warehouses. Boqor Osman fled to the interior, while Italian troops captured the sea towns of Alula, Bender Khassim, Bareeda and Muranyo. Boqor Osman had been taken by surprise, and had attempted unsuccessfully to counter the Italians in too many battlefields.
Things were further complicated by other developments in the region: the Italo-British arrangements for confining the Daraawiish to the Nugaal area was growing untenable. The British had failed to secure peace with the Daraawiish and were in retreat.0 The good relationships which in the past Boqor Osman had had with Sayid Mahamed ended after persistent Daraawiish scorched earth raids on Majeerteen settlements. Initially Boqor Osman had repulsed invasions of his Sultanate by the Daraawiish. But armed confrontation with the Italians had made him vulnerable to the Daraawiish attacks. He turned to the Italians for an "honourable settlement".
Because of the Daraawiish threat to their Benaadir colony and the weakness of control afforded by the existing treaty with the Majeerteen, the Italians opted to open a dialogue with Boqor Osman. After long negotiations, in March 1910, they signed a renewal of the treaty but with a more rigid and effective protectorate powers and in their own interpretation.0
From Sovereign to Subject:
The Elimination of the North-Eastern Sultanates
The dawn of fascism in the early 1920s heralded a change of strategy for Italy as the north-eastern sultanates were soon to be forced within the boundaries of La Grande Somalia according to the plan of fascist Italy. With the arrival of Governor Cesare Maria De Vecchi on 15 December 1923 things began to change for that part of Somaliland. Italy had access to these parts under the successive protection treaties, but not direct rule. The fascist government had direct rule only over the Benaadir territory.
Given the defeat of the Daraawiish movement in the early 1920s and the rise of fascism in Europe, on 10 July 1925 Benito Mussolini gave the green light to De Vecchi to start the takeover of the north-eastern sultanates.0 Everything was to be changed and the treaties abrogated.
The real principles of colonialism meant possession and domination of the people, and the protection of the country from other greedy powers. Italy's interpretation of the treaties of protection with the north-eastern sultanates was comparable to her view of the Treaty of Uccialli with Abyssinia, and meant absolute control of the whole territory. Never mind that the subsequent tension between Abyssinia and Italy had culminated in 1896 in the battle of Adowa in which the Italians were overwhelmed and outmanoeuvred. The Italians had not learned their lesson, they were committing the same historical mistake.
Governor De Vecchi's first plan was to disarm the sultanates. But before the plan could be carried out there should be sufficient Italian troops in both sultanates. To make the enforcement of his plan more viable, he began to reconstitute the old Somali police corps, the Corpo Zaptié, as a colonial force.
Preparations for the Invasion
In preparation for the plan of invasion of the sultanates, the Alula Commissioner, E. Coronaro received orders in April 1924 to carry out a reconnaissance on the territories targetted for invasion. In spite of the forty year Italian relationship with the sultanates, Italy did not have adequate knowledge of the geography. During this time, the Stefanini-Puccioni geological survey was scheduled to take place, so it was a good opportunity for the expedition of Coronaro to join with this.0
Coronaro's survey concluded that the Majeerteen Sultanate depended on sea traffic, therefore, if this were blocked any resistance which could be mounted came after the invasion of the sultanate would be minimal.0
As the first stage of the invasion plan Governor De Vecchi ordered the two Sultanates to disarm. The reaction of both sultanates was to object, as they felt the policy was in breach of the protectorate agreements. The pressure engendered by the new development forced the two rival sultanates to settle their differences over Nugaal possession, and form a united front against their common enemy.
The First Casualty: Hobyo
The Sultanate of Hobyo was different from that of Majeerteen in terms of its geography and the pattern of the territory. It was founded by Yusuf Ali in the middle of the nineteenth century in central Somaliland. The jurisdiction of Hobyo stretched from El-Dheere through to Dusa-Mareeb in the south-west, from Galladi to Galkayo in the west, from Jerriiban to Garaad in the north-east, and the Indian Ocean in the east.0
By 1st October, De Vecchi's plan was to go into action. The operation to invade Hobyo started in October 1925. Columns of the new Zaptié began to move towards the sultanate. Hobyo, El-Buur, Galkayo, and the territory between were completely overrun within a month. Hobyo was transformed from a sultanate into an administrative region. Sultan Yusuf Ali surrendered. Nevertheless, soon suspicions were aroused as Trivulzio, the Hobyo commissioner, reported movement of armed men towards the borders of the sultanate before the takeover and after.
Before the Italians could concentrate on the Majeerteen, they were diverted by new setbacks. On 9 November, the Italian fear was realised when a mutiny, led by one of the military chiefs of Sultan Ali Yusuf, Omar Samatar, recaptured El-Buur. Soon the rebellion expanded to the local population. The region went into revolt as El-Dheere also came under the control of Omar Samatar. The Italian forces tried to recapture El-Buur but they were repulsed. On 15 November the Italians retreated to Bud Bud and on the way they were ambushed and suffered heavy casualties.
While a third attempt was in the last stages of preparation, the operation commander, Lieutenant-Colonel Splendorelli, was ambushed between Bud Bud and Buula Barde. He and some of his staff were killed.0
As a consequence of the death of the commander of the operations and the effect of two failed operations intended to overcome the El-Buur mutiny, the spirit of Italian troops began to wane. The Governor took the situation seriously, and to prevent any more failure he requested two battalions from Eritrea to reinforce his troops, and assumed lead of the operations.0 Meanwhile, the rebellion was gaining sympathy across the country, and as far afield as Western Somaliland.
The fascist government was surprised by the setback in Hobyo. The whole policy of conquest was collapsing under its nose. The El-Buur episode drastically changed the strategy of Italy as it revived memories of the Adowa fiasco when Italy had been defeated by Abyssinia. Furthermore, in the Colonial Ministry in Rome, senior officials distrusted the Governor's ability to deal with the matter. Rome instructed De Vecchi that he was to receive the reinforcement from Eritrea, but that the commander of the two battalions was to temporarily assume the military command of the operations and De Vecchi was to stay in Muqdisho and confine himself to other colonial matters. In the case of any military development, the military commander was to report directly to the Chief of Staff in Rome.0
While the situation remained perplexed, De Vecchi moved the deposed sultan to Muqdisho. Fascist Italy was poised to reconquer the sultanate by whatever means. To manoeuvre the situation within Hobyo, they even contemplated the idea of reinstating Ali Yusuf. However, the idea was dropped after they became pessimistic about the results.
To undermine the resistance, however, and before the Eritrean reinforcement could arrive, De Vecchi began to instill distrust among the local people by buying the loyalty of some of them. In fact, these tactics had better results than had the military campaign, and the resistance began gradually to wear down. Given the anarchy which would follow,0 the new policy was a success.
On the military front, on 26 December 1925 Italian troops finally overran El-Buur, and the forces of Omar Samatar were compelled to retreat to Western Somaliland.
The Second Casuality: The Fall of the Majeerteen Sultanate
By neutralising Hobyo, the fascists could concentrate on the Majeerteen. In early October 1924, E. Coronaro, the new Alula commissioner, presented Boqor Osman with an ultimatum to disarm and surrender.
Meanwhile, Italian troops began to pour into the sultanate in anticipation of this operation. While landing at Haafuun and Alula, the sultanate's troops opened fire on them. Fierce fighting ensued and to avoid escalating the conflict and to press the fascist government to revoke their policy, Boqor Osman tried to open a dialogue. However, he failed, and again fighting broke out between the two parties.
Following this disturbance, on 7 October the Governor instructed Coronaro to order the Sultan to surrender; to intimidate the people he ordered the seizure of all merchant boats in the Alula area. At Haafuun, Arimondi bombarded and destroyed all the boats in the area.0
On 13 October Coronaro was to meet Boqor Osman at Baargaal to press for his surrender. Under siege already, Boqor Osman was playing for time. However, on 23 October Boqor Osman sent an angry response to the Governor defying his order. Following this a full scale attack was ordered in November. Baargaal was bombarded and razed to the ground.0 This region was ethnically compact, and was out of range of direct action by the fascist government of Muqdisho. The attempt of the colonisers to suppress the region erupted into explosive confrontation.
The Italians were meeting fierce resistance on many fronts. In December 1925, led by the charismatic leader Hersi Boqor, son of Boqor Osman, the sultanate forces drove the Italians out of Hurdia and Haafuun, two strategic coastal towns on the Indian Ocean. Another contingent attacked and destroyed an Italian communications centre at Cape Guardafui, on the tip of the Horn. In retaliation Bernica and other warships were called on to bombard all main coastal towns of the Majeerteen. After a violent confrontation Italian forces captured Ayl (Eil), which until then had remained in the hands of Hersi Boqor.0
In response to the unyielding situation, Italy called for reinforcements from their other colonies, notably, Eritrea. With their arrival at the closing of 1926, the Italians began to move into the interior where they had not been able to venture since their first seizure of the coastal towns. Their attempt to capture Dharoor Valley was resisted, and ended in failure.
De Vecchi had to reassess his plans as he was being humiliated on many fronts. After one year of exerting full force he could not yet manage to gain a result over the sultanate.
In spite of the fact that the Italian navy sealed the sultanate's main coastal entrance, they could not succeed in stopping them from receiving arms and ammunition through it. It was only early 1927 when they finally succeeded in shutting the northern coast of the sultanate, thus cutting arms and ammunition supplies for the Majeerteen.
By this time, the balance had tilted to the Italian's side, and in January 1927 they began to attack with a massive force, capturing Iskushuban, at the heart of the Majeerteen. Hersi Boqor unsuccessfully attacked and challenged the Italians at Iskushuban. To demoralise the resistance, ships were ordered to raze and bombard the sultanate's coastal towns and villages.0 In the interior the Italian troops confiscated livestock.
By the end of the 1927 the Italians had nearly taken control of the sultanate. Defeated and humiliated, Hersi Boqor and his top staff were forced to retreat to Ethiopia in order to rebuild the forces. However, they had an epidemic of cholera which frustrated all attempts to recover his force.
After two years of devastating war in which thousands of civilians died and the entire economy of the sultanate was ruined, razing all coastal towns and villages, the Italian colonial administration could boast that it had broken the Majeerteen resistance and put an end to an era in Somaliland.
Boqor Osman fled to the British Somaliland, but was handed back to the Italians. In November the formal act of surrender took place in Hurdia, and Boqor Osman dramatically consigned his sword to Governor De Vecchi.0 Later Boqor Osman was exiled to Muqdisho.
With the elimination of the north-eastern sultanates and the breaking of the Benaadir resistance, from this period henceforth, Italian Somaliland was to become a reality.
The partition of Somaliland was already shaping during this period and the fate of the Somalis was at the mercy of the colonial powers.
Majeerteen Saltantes
Cali Cumar----------(Boqorkii I )
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Maxamuud-----------(>> II ).
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Yuusuf-----------------(>> III )
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Maxamuud-----------(>> IV )
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Maxamed-------------(>> V )
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Cali (Cambarre)-----(>> VI )
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Yuusuf-----------------(>> VII ).
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Maxamuud (xawaadane--(>> VIII ).
^
/ \
/ \
<---/ \------------------->
Yuusuf (Bah-Yaaquub
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Cali (Ardaa-Baasle).
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Yuusuf (Keenadiid)------(Suldaankii I )
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Cali Yusuf-------------------Suldaankii II )
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Yaasiin---------------------
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Cali -------------------------(suldaankii III )
Cismaan (bah-Dir)-----(Boqorkii IX )
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Yuusuf ---------------Boqorkii X )
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Maxamuud-----------Boqorkii XI )
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Cismaan ---------------Boqorkii XII )
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Yuusuf------------------
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Muuse------------------Boqorkii XIII
Yuusuf Dheere ---------Dhulbahante.
Ayaa loo soo sheegay dhimashadii Keynadiid----------------Wuxuu Yiri.
Dadkaan aragnay aradkii Hobyaad amarka lay sheegay
Arbow Keynadiid adamihii iilka lagu awdye.
Araxdiyo haddan oofta midig aa ka leeyahaye
Cirka ooyayaa waa abkiyo sida agoomeede.
Arooryaddana shamiskaan iftimin oogta waaberiye
Arladdana dhirtii baa engegan ubuxu saarnaaye
Adduunyaduna umug bay u tiri umashadiisiiye
Kolna hadaanu ururkii shirkiyo geedka imanaynin
Halkii laysku uumiyo hadduu aakhiro u hoydey
Afarteena oodood Hartiga dhimay adoogoode
Samirka ha ilaawina wixii tegey ma eegtaane.
Sayid Maxamed---------ogaadeen
Waxse igu jirabay waa ninkii jookha ii lulaye
Haddaan Boqor Jawaab iiga iman uma jildhaabeene
Jirku ima xanuuneen hadduu joog ileeyahaye
Jeclaantaan u qabay baan u tagey jaanka badihiye.
Xassan Shiil (Gabay Aweyte)------------Dhulbahante
Oo isna wax ka yiri dhimashadii Keynadiid.
Warka xalay kelyaha iga qabteen quud la cuni waayey
Oo sida waraabii qabsaday qalayey jiirkayga
Oo dhididka ig soo qac yiri qooyey maradayda
Oo aan dhafooradda qabsaday sida nin qaamaysan
In qiyaamihii dhaco miyaa aniga layqaatey.
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| Aries | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 07:30 am
Nice piece i guess this is part of somalia's
history....where did you paste from? |
| Anonymous | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 07:40 am
hey this is too much..i think all the mjs are on the net and got no other thing to do...please this is more than enough... |
| Wiil | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 07:52 am
Horseed
If you think somebody would waste their time reading this sh!t, you are mistaken..big time>...
Let me tell you in brief what this so-called sultanites were good for:
Spy and report to the British and Italians other clans who were opposed to colonization
Supported the Italians and the British against the Dervushes
Broght their women to the whites
(Inta habar Mj iyo halamsh naagaa leh |
| Horseed | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 08:23 am
Wiil i didn't drag your ass to p.c. and made you read this......this is for those who wanna know it
About your comments my freind....we all know how much majeerteen contribute to the independence of the present day somalia...we are big part of somalia and it's history and if you don't like that....F*ck off....and plz if you couldn't an mj girl...that doesn't give you a right to insult
our women. |
| Mad-Man | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 08:45 am
Horseed.....
Although ur article was quite long..... i just hope u didn't do this piece of research to put down ur fellow Somali bros/sistaz!
Its quite fascinatin' readin it....and personally this is the first time i heard about it even tho i belong to the same to same 'clan'>>>> Personally i prefer being called Somali than what some old dudes put together to divide and put us at logger-heads!
From my own viewz... i think this whole qabil affliation is bull-•••• and none of us should associate in it....
If u don't mind, bro....next time try writing about the history of the other 'clans' as well, cuz am sure they contributed alot towards the history of ur beloved nation!!
Alot of u might not agree with me....but i dont see why anyone should brag about it clearly knowing that it has done more damage than anything to be proud of!
Being in different groups need not to spoil long-term happiness/caring and loving of all of us a Nation..... and this is a vital issue to all of us who are looking 4ward to moving Somalia from its present crisis!!
Mad-Man! |
| MOE | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 11:11 am
HORSEED,
THANK YOU, IT IS THE BEST SOMALI HISTORY I'VE READ IN A LONG TIME. AT LAST, SOMEONE IS EDUCATING US ABOUT OUR SOMALIAN HISTORY. ALAS, HOW UNEDUCATED COULD ONE BE WHEN ONE LACKS ITS OWN PAST. THANK YOU, I ENJOYED TREMONDESLY.
MOE,
MONREAL, CANADA |
| DAYTEK_MAN | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 11:22 am
Thanks Horseed. I agree with the brother from montreal, it is history and its best. Hey moe what is like living in Montreal? do you have to speak French? |
| Anonymous | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 11:50 am
mad man,
you ain't making any sense get your ass out
of here... |
| Anonymous | Thursday, April 05, 2001 - 12:32 pm
Mad Man,
You are the only one making some sense here...the guy who posted this has just some problem with whom he is..nothing else. |
| Ahmed | Friday, April 06, 2001 - 07:37 am
Maybe Some of you are uncomfartable the True History of Somalia because your Tribe or Your family played against the intrest of Somalia but remember that is past what counts now is what you do for your country and your people?
Anyway this is close what happened you should be proud that you had Somali Sultanate or kingdom.
Horseed
Thanks bro. Your right Italians won the war because Somalis Fought for them and that is why its making some people uncomfotable.
I will add this piece of Information I read when I was in Italy. Godo-Godo and Omar Samatar were leading Generels who fought against Italians and coused much damage to Itallian army and its lackeys. The whole Movement colepsed when Godo-Gode was murdered while he was seeking suport from Other Somali clans to fight with the Infidals. Omar Samatar and his troops were very demoralised for setback and the new turn of the event (Somali against Somali) and Moved with his people to Ethiopia and fought with ethiopians side by side Against Italians. The rest we all know Somalis become slaves for Italians.
Jaaw |
| Cilmi | Friday, April 06, 2001 - 08:10 am
Every clan has contributed to Somali history some how, the majeerteen sultanates whom I have much respect deserve much respectEmay they rest in peace, another aspect of Somali history that should be remember that took place in East bari is The kulmisElead by the great lyricist Khalif sh. Mohammed. They say History has a way of repeating its self so lets learn from it and never make such mistakes again. We must come together as one, as Our beloved Prophet Mohammed (scw) says
All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the which belogs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly.EWe are created equal, so why is it hard for us to treat each other as equals, as brother and sisters?
Only we can make a difference, May Allah uphold our good intentions and withhold our bad ones.E
Aslamu calykum |
| Mohamed | Friday, April 06, 2001 - 08:47 am
Wow, My people were cool then way back. I know now why people hate MJ's. |
| Anonymous | Friday, April 06, 2001 - 11:31 am
I now now why we-majeerteens arent liked by others,,of course because of our rich past, any way it was a helpful to me and to some others and even copied and gave it to my teacher who want to present it as a lesson,,so i am also feeling great about cause my tribe's popularity will even be spread further.......
Viva majeerteen. |
| ALI | Friday, April 06, 2001 - 11:57 am
YOU CAN'T ERASE THE PAST PRESENT. MAJEERTEEN KINGDOM EXISTED JUST LIKE ANY OTHER KINGDOM IN THE PAST, I DON'T SEE WHY PEOPLE HAVE DIFFICULTIES ADMITING IT. I GUESS, IN FEW YEARS YOU'LL PROPABLY FORGET SIYAD BARRE EXISTED. |
| Horseed | Saturday, April 07, 2001 - 11:15 pm
guys i do appreciate your in-puts... allow me
to make few things clear...i haven't posted this
article so as to divide the somalis....one must learn their history and culture...i will be more than glad to see articles relating to our past from Ahmed Gurre , Wiil waal ,Sayid Abdulle Hassan
to Xaawo Taako....anything related to us somalis...and make it avaible for all to know.
peace |
| Omareto | Monday, April 09, 2001 - 05:19 am
Every Somali clan had and were entitled to their own kind of monarchy if you wanna call it that way. Every clan had their Suldan, Ugaas, Imaam, Wabar, Islaam, etc you-name-it, so, why is the MJ Sultanite so special? As far as I am concerned they were their own Sultan just like any other clan, so why are you making it so special as if it was unique?
The brief history that I heard from that clan's Sultanite I agree with Wiil. |
| Mjs... | Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 06:12 am
Omareto
To answer your question briefly, yes ever clan has its history but non so big and dramatic as the Majeerteen clan, one has to admit no other clan where intitled to have ruled with such honor and kingdom as the Majeerteen that is why its special, not only us but to all of Somalia. And by agree with will that show that your are rather jealous of our historic past,Get ready for our feature couse u will defiantly be see more of us. |
| Omareto | Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 07:47 am
Jealous!!!!! who? ME!!!
Why would I be jealous of some cranky, so-called-sultan who existed in ....... how many years? I don't even know.
Let me give you a piece of sincere advise.. You have a very tiny cell you call brain, don't reck it thinking of a past fairy tell that old MJ's used as a lullaby when their kids could not sleep because of hunger, besides if it's as grandioso as you are trying to make it, why was the Sayid able to wipe it out in a forthnight? |
| Darwiish Jebiye | Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 10:01 am
The Warsangeli Sultanate has the longest history in Somalia.The Warsangeli Sultanate has existed for close to 500 years.The present Sultan is the 27th Sultan in the line.
Infact the Warsangeli Sultanate used to rule all Hartis at one time. |
| ALI | Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 10:26 am
LEDS' & GENS, P/S CONTAIN YOURSELVES, ENJOY THE ARTICLE AND IT'S CONTENT, BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF YOUR OPINION, MJ'S KINGDOM NOW BELONGS TO THE AGES. AND YES, LET WHOMEVER WANTS TO BE PROUD BE PROUD, WHAT DO YOU CARE, YOUR ANCESTERS MIGHT HAVE BEEN SUBJECTS BUT NOT YOU, RIGHT? RIGHT. |
| MJs | Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 10:47 am
Omareto
Sincere advise you say, but your full of nonsense, our history will forever be recognize. We do not need your acknowledgement; keep it to your self. Learn how to distinguish tails from the Truth. Indeed my Dear brother Horsade Speaks of the Truth, you in the other hand as I can tell have enormous animosity toward majeerteen witch is why your not willing to admit the honor and respect our ancestors deserve. |
| MJlady | Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 12:18 pm
Horseed, mahadsanid for the info. It is much appreciated historical piece.
All the cranky people up here, no one is asking you to like or compare anything. You want to tell us about the history of your clan, then start a topic and inform the people aight!! |
| Ahmed | Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 03:51 pm
Omereto
Look again what you wrote? did you say anything that is positive to the History or refuted any sentence of what Horseed wrote about the History of Mj Sultanate?..no..Why? You come here to expose your jealousy of what someone achieved bygone era, nothing that is going change if you like it or not, again You surprised yourself when someone was kind enough to point out your hatred of MJ's or Jealous, instead of taking the advise you comeback and said why? then You started to show your true colours?! No need to go father then this, You answered yourself. Next Time either contribute what you know or keep your Jealousy and hate to yourself. likes of You are not appreciated.... |
| DONT HATE ME DESPISE ME!! | Wednesday, April 11, 2001 - 04:59 am
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DONT EVEN MENTIONING THOSE DISGUSTING, CONNIVING, SCHEMING, DECEIVING, UGLY MAJEERTEEN WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO SOMALIA. WE ISAAQ BELEIVE THA WHOLE SOMALI RACE IS DIRT, EXCEPT FOR ISAAQ. STOP TRYING TO BRAINWASH PPL WITH YOUR FALSE PROPAGANDA AND PRO-MAJEERTEEN RHETORIC BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS THERES NO SUCH THING AS A MAJEERTEEN SULTANATE AND IF THERE WAS YOU CANT COMPARE IT TO THE CIDDEGALE SULTANTE. YOU SHOULD CONCENTRATE YOUR ENERGY ON HELPING THOSE POOR STARVING MAJEERTEEN REFUGEES IN KENYA WHO ARE DYING BY THE THOUSANDS FROM AIDS AND OTHER SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASES. |
| Jeego | Wednesday, April 11, 2001 - 06:11 am
Why are you fumed then?..lol... I am talking to the Despised One! I don't want to lower myself such a Despised creature like you, Why bother and insult the Whole Majeerteen if you think your Clan had better History then Majeerteen Sultanate?.. Did anyone mentioned your tribe here? You see.. Your trespassing..GO BACK TO YOUR FOX-HOLE...lol..No one can cure likes of You and that is why I DESPISE your kind? Either say something worth while or shut f*ck up Idiot..
Fadlan Don't Insult Isaaqq people or Ciidgal because of likes of this heinous NIT-WIT that everyone Despises.... |
| Omareto | Wednesday, April 11, 2001 - 08:57 am
This topic is not worth of discussing and wasting my time anymore. Argue with a fool and ppl might not know the difference |
| zahra | Wednesday, April 11, 2001 - 09:46 am
omerato, can you explain something for me please. i have seen your name on this topic more than one time if it is not worth why are coming here.if you do not like it well we do so get out of here. easy as that. |
| Mohammed99 | Wednesday, April 11, 2001 - 09:59 am
Omareto.
Indeed this proves you're envious, and how resentful you are towards us Majareeteens...admitting it (I know it's hard) but we are just too distinguished. So one can't help but envy us, such bitterness does not affect a Clan (Mj's) of self-Evident.
Superior. |
| Anonymous | Wednesday, April 11, 2001 - 11:06 am
zahra good point..lol |
