     BESBASO | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 01:21 am
ANSWER THIS QUESTION FOR ME
IS IT WORTH IT TO BE A VIRGIN? DO THE MEN KNOW WHAT A SCARIFACE WE ARE MAKING? DO THEY APPRECIATE IT?
I WANNA KNOW DO THEY RELEASE HOW HARD IT IS TO BE VIRTEOUS IN THIS WORLD FULL OF TEMPTATIONS. I MEAN THEY TAKE IT FOR GRANTED THAT SOMALIAN WOMEN WILL BE VIRGINS BUT DO THEY KNOW HOW MANY R NOT. DO WE NOT DESERVE THE SAME RIGHTS; IF AM GONNA BE A VIRGIN MY HUSBAND TO BE HAS TO BE ONE. IS IT SO BAD TO EXPERIMENT A LITTLE AND KNOW WHAT U R GETTING INTO FOREHAND THAT WAY U CAN COMPARE OR IS COMPARISION BAD AND U WILL KNOW WHAT U R MISSING IF U MARRY SOMEONE BAD IN BED. IS IT LEARNED TO BE A GOOD LOVER OR IS IT NATURAL TO BE A GOOD LOVER LIKE DANCING, SOME PPL CAN DANCE OTHERS CAN'T. I WANNA KNOW IS IT BETTER TO KNOW IF THE PERSON U R GETTING MARRIED TO IS GOOD IN BED B4 U GET MARRIED OR IS IT BETTER TO LEARN 2GETHER.
I WANNA KNOW WHAT U THINK ABOUT THIS SUBJECT
CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR FROM U
PEACE AND LOVE
BESBASO |
| A.N.A | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 02:35 am
It really just depends on what type of person you are. Some people like the idea of experimenting and might even feel it is healthy for some realtionships. They may not mind sharing what they have, and letting others see what it is they have.
For others, sex is viewed as special and only possible in marriage. The closest they are going to get to anyone, therfore they wait for the right person. A persons body is special, why should they let any Tom , Dick or Harry( even sue !!) have access to it???
If guys excpect their future wifes to be virgins, they should also abstein from sex.
Finally, its not really hard to be a virgin in this day and age , its really quite easy.day and age. With all these diesease's going around its really quite easy. |
| BESBASO | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 02:48 am
LOL....
OBVIOUSLY U HAVE NOT BEEN HANGING OUT IN THE RIGHT PLACES. I DIDN'T SAY I COULDN'T DO IT ABESTEIN I MEAN, I SAID WHY BOTHER AT ALL......
BESBASO |
| suhuur | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 04:57 am
besbaso we are not making sacrifice for anyone it is just wrong and we are not having sex before marriage because alaah said it is xaraam on both sexes, so we are doing it for alaah only not for guys |
| Sister | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 05:48 am
Asalaama Calaykum
Then why the hell are the men doing it for god sakes, we all know that it is haram already?
What is the previlage they have that will keep them from whatever punishment that who have premartial sex deserves?
The last, but not the least, don't you think it is wrong that they are working their best to take the virginity of any naive girl who let them and then when they want to get married they want to find a virgin bride?
I am not telling any muslim brother or sister to have any kind of premarital sex before you the tie the so called knot for the love of god and espicially sisters watch out and don't let those "Ardaaliin" fool you. Look for the nice guys who want halal and who know the halal from the haram.
Wabilaahi towfiiq |
| spike | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 06:13 am
girls where did you got the idea that only men do the sex before the marriage. Ok for argument sake, let us say men do sex before marriage more than the women does,who the hell do they do with.
their must be a women involved somewhere...
anyway, you better not do it these days, or you will be looking for a health insurance for the rest of your life.
Verginity...I do not think verginity as per say is a big deal, but i would like the girl I marry should have a tight one, and should be able to squeeze my parts, and i should be strong and last long for her.i mean you should't be retired before you get married, if you know what I mean. oops. did I say that |
| Anonymous | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 06:18 am
basbas
put a cholk in your mouth.you talk rubbish.get your self together. |
| BESBASO | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 06:27 am
SPIKE I WAS VERY OFFENDED BY UR LAST COMMENT FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN READING ABOUT IT SEEMS I THOUGHT I BETTER MAN BUT OBVIOUSLY LIKE THE REST OF UR GENDER U CAN ONLY BE TRUE TO BASER INSTINCTS AND CAN NEVER EVOLVE BEYOND UR NEADERTHAL STAGE. EVERYTIME I GET I LITTLE BIT OF HOPE FOR THE MALE GENDER IT IS DASHED. AND ABOUT BEING TIGHT PLZ, OK IT IS NOT LIKE SOMALIAN MEN R KNOW FOR BEING WELL ENDOWED. FARTHER MORE WE WERE NOT CREATED FOR UR ENJOYMENT. BESIDES IF THAT IS THE WAY IS IT SHOULD WOMEN HAVE TO MEASURE THE MALE ORGAN TO SEE IF IT IS A DESIRABLE SIZE OR IF IT, IF THAT WAS THE WAY IT WOULD BE DONE WELL ALL I CAN A LOT OF SOMALIAN MEN WOULD BE SINGLE...LOL
ANYWAY I APOLOGISE FOR GENERALIZING BUT ..WELL
AND ONE OTHER THING IF U HAVE NOTHING INTE |
| BESBASO | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 06:31 am
CON'D
AND ONE OTHER THING IF U HAVE NOTHING INTERESTING TO SAY DON'T BOTHER AT ALL
THE THING I HATE MOST IN THE IS IGNORANCE
PLZ IMPROVE URSELVES AND DON'T MAKE FOOLS OF URSELVES JUST CAUSE THIS IS THE NET AND NOBODY KNOWS U
AND ONE MORE THING
"A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE"
CIAO
BESBASO |
| spike | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 06:40 am
SisI did not mean to offend you or anybody.
but what did I say to offend you.
i said the girl has to be tight and the boy has to hard and strong...what i ment was, if a girl
has too much sex before marriage , she would't be as tight and likewise if a boy has too much sex before marriage , he would't be as hard and strong
it is just common sense...
but please do not get offended, we are just exchanging ideas...we can disagree can't we..and still be brother and sister who respect each other
and never get me wrong...i respect my fellow country sisters |
| Honesita | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 06:40 am
Spike.....ba ayeey what happened to the Wadaad...!!lol...but u know i always wondered the same thing....who do the guys have sex with if the girlz r all virgin...!!!!!
Basbaso....sistah u askin' real questions...!! But sis if u want honest answers...u wont get it from the somalinet.forums......most pple will tell u what they want others to hear...not what they exactly think of it...!! When i need advice or want to know what others think of somethin'....i always ask my friends....the ones older than i am....!! And if u talk to ur mom about it...it'll help even more.....!! Believe me on that one..!!
Sister.......it is haram for both men and women to have sex b4 marriage....and i guess the reasons why men do it anyway is cuz of our culuture......u see when u hear a guy had sex with that girl u would automatically blame the girl....Why..!!??.....Girlz would abstain from it for so many reasons too....it is ez to tell if a girl is virgin or not....u can not tell weather a guy is a virgin or not....!! A girl can get get pregnant....a man can lay his sh!t and run away...!!! It is da same sin with Allah....but with pple.....it is ok for a man to have sex...but a woman...ceeb badanaa....its like she deserves to be stoned to death...!! It sure aint fair....but what can we do about it...absolutely nothin'...!!!
Salaam |
| Anonymous | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 06:43 am
basbas
yes a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
exactly
imagine coming here and splattering about virginity and all that.
do you think you are using your half dead brain or mind to talk rubbish.
put a cholk in yo mouth and shut da help up . |
| Muslimah | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 06:48 am
Subhanallah!!..............God!.........ppl,ppl!
What are u talking about basbaso?........doing it 4 the men?........I thought it was 4 the sake of Allah(SWT) as sister Suuhur said. It is not hard to stay away from sex simply stay away from the opposite sex and it will work. If u wanna do it and get the damn 4 it then do it but don't stay away from the for the men stay away from 4 the sake of allah. Both sexes are NOT allowed 2 have any close relationships with the opposite sex........so who cares if they guys do it and no one notices.......Allah is allknower and he knows it all. U said in ur last post: "WE WERE NOT CREATED FOR UR ENJOYMENT".........well we are not created 4 their enjoyment but we are created 2 worship Allah the almighty, U were not created 2 sit infront of the pc...........as u have been doing all day.......go make some benifits of ur time and do something u won't regret 2morrow.
Anyhows folks take care and remeber that Ins and Jin were created to worship their lord.
Please don't get offended.......but these kind of posts are waste of time.
Wasalamacaleykum warahmatulahi wabrakatu. |
| spike | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 06:48 am
Basbaso, your last comment was uncall for it. sister |
| eodmy | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 06:55 am
Besbaso... look i think you have a lot of expereince to be saying that you know the size of somali mens penis. Or am i wrong? isn't that what you just said?
What is the size of mine? Are you a telepath? Like it has been said above you abstain from sextaul intercourse because it is haraam and you do it for your self as well. If your brother is doing it that does not mean you too must! damn do somalis have a weird way of chosing right from wrong. "He does it so i must too" Why complain if you are not contemplating it, it is simple if you need it just get married and get the reward of completing the other 50% of your islamic duty!
If he falls short of your needs you have the islamic right to divorce him for he does not please you! And you lost your virginity the halaal way! this makes you equal to the casanovas who ain't virgins and non-of the sisters wana marry these day! Since you ain't no virgin then you can get yourself a casanova aight!
When i guy does it he does not come on the net to ask anyone else about it, it is his crime and he pays the price! so will you if you do it!
Back to the question! no i don't care wether you are virgin or not. Yes it is recomended virgins marry virgins and nons to marry nons! |
| BESBASO | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 06:58 am
HONESTA SIS,
BELIEVE AM NOT ASKING FOR ADVICE CONCERNING MYSELF I KNOW WHAT I NEED TO KNOW AND THANKS FOR UR TRUE THOUGHTS I APPRECIATE THEM. BUT THE REASON IAM POSTING THESE WORDS IS BECAUSE AM CONCERNED FOR THE YOUNG PPL OF OUR SOCIETY, THEY HAVE BEEN TAKEN OVER BY THE SOCIETY WHERE THEY LIVE IN NOW, AND I THOUGHT IF I POSTED IT HERE I WOULD START AN HONEST AND THOUGHT PROVOCING DISCUSSION. BUT IT SEEMS THERE R PPL WHO R ALWAYS AGAINS HONESTY AND WILL JUDGE AND CONDEMN ANYONE WHO COMES FORTH AND OPENS THEIR MIND. ONE THING I LEARNED ABOUT OUR PPL IN MY 20 YRS OF LIFE IS THAT THEY R VERY CLOSE MINDED AND I ONLY WISH FOR US TO IMPROVE I GUESS AM AN IDEALIST BUT TO BECOME A CYNIC WOULD DESTROY MY DREAMS AND I HOPE THAT NEVER HAPPENS.
SPIKE I'M SORRY I WAS READING ALL KINDS OF JUDGEMENTAL CRAP AND I GUESS I TOOK MY ANGER OUT ON U.
I'M SORRY I MISJUDGED U
BE TRUE TO URSELVES ALWAYS
BESBASO |
| eodmy | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 06:59 am
Besbaso... look i think you have a lot of expereince to be saying that you know the size of somali mens penis. Or am i wrong? isn't that what you just said?
What is the size of mine? Are you a telepath? Like it has been said above you abstain from sextaul intercourse because it is haraam and you do it for your self as well. If your brother is doing it that does not mean you too must! damn do somalis have a weird way of chosing right from wrong. "He does it so i must too" Why complain if you are not contemplating it, it is simple if you need it just get married and get the reward of completing the other 50% of your islamic duty!
If he falls short of your needs you have the islamic right to divorce him for he does not please you! And you lost your virginity the halaal way! this makes you equal to the casanovas who ain't virgins and non-of the sisters wana marry these day! Since you ain't no virgin then you can get yourself a casanova aight!
When a guy does it he does not come on the net to ask anyone else about it, it is his crime and he pays the price! so will you if you do it!
Back to the question! no i don't care wether you are virgin or not. Yes it is recomended virgins marry virgins and nons to marry nons! |
| eodmy | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 06:59 am
Besbaso... look i think you have a lot of expereince to be saying that you know the size of somali mens penis. Or am i wrong? isn't that what you just said?
What is the size of mine? Are you a telepath? Like it has been said above you abstain from sextaul intercourse because it is haraam and you do it for your self as well. If your brother is doing it that does not mean you too must! damn do somalis have a weird way of chosing right from wrong. "He does it so i must too" Why complain if you are not contemplating it, it is simple if you need it just get married and get the reward of completing the other 50% of your islamic duty!
If he falls short of your needs you have the islamic right to divorce him for he does not please you! And you lost your virginity the halaal way! this makes you equal to the casanovas who ain't virgins and non-of the sisters wana marry these day! Since you ain't no virgin then you can get yourself a casanova aight!
When a guy does it he does not come on the net to ask anyone else about it, it is his crime and he pays the price! so will you if you do it!
Back to the question! no i don't care wether you are virgin or not. Yes it is recomended virgins marry virgins and nons to marry nons! |
| eodmy | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 06:59 am
Besbaso... look i think you have a lot of expereince to be saying that you know the size of somali mens penis. Or am i wrong? isn't that what you just said?
What is the size of mine? Are you a telepath? Like it has been said above you abstain from sextaul intercourse because it is haraam and you do it for your self as well. If your brother is doing it that does not mean you too must! damn do somalis have a weird way of chosing right from wrong. "He does it so i must too" Why complain if you are not contemplating it, it is simple if you need it just get married and get the reward of completing the other 50% of your islamic duty!
If he falls short of your needs you have the islamic right to divorce him for he does not please you! And you lost your virginity the halaal way! this makes you equal to the casanovas who ain't virgins and non-of the sisters wana marry these day! Since you ain't no virgin then you can get yourself a casanova aight!
When a guy does it he does not come on the net to ask anyone else about it, it is his crime and he pays the price! so will you if you do it!
Back to the question! no i don't care wether you are virgin or not. Yes it is recomended virgins marry virgins and nons to marry nons! |
| odmey | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 07:05 am
wow 4times thatz a new record!
Sorry the browser was slow and i just kept clicking...  |
| Sadat | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 07:17 am
Muslimah makes a lot of sense...
Why do you care who has sex before marriage and who doesnt? If you know guys who do it, are u going to throw away your religion, culture, self-respect and do it too?
It's wrong for both men and women to have sex before marriage, or to have it with some one who is not XALAAL to them.The Koran doesn't say that "It's OK for men to do it"...no...no
In aakhiro Allah is going to judge you alone...not with any body else...so you shouldn't think about who does what and who doesn't......you should think about what's right for you.... |
| BESBASO | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 07:25 am
ODMEY,
WOW THAT WAS HARSH IAM FANNING MYSELF WELL I GUESS U SHOWED ME MY PLACE, HAA. BRO, I'M SORRY I GUESS I SHOULD EXPECT JUDGEMENTAL PPL LIKE U BUT IT STILL SUPRISES ME. ANYWAY FOR UR INFO. IAM A VIRGIN AND DON'T BELIEVE ME IF U WANT BUT THAT IS THE TRUTH. AND WHAT I SAID ABOUT SOMALI PENIS IS WHAT IS CALLED A "STEREOTYPE" OK. AND ABOUT MEASURING THE SIZE OF A PENIS THAT WAS A HYPOTHES I WAS JUST TRYING TO COMAPARE THE UNFAIRNESS OF WHAT IS EXPECTED OF US. I GUESS IT WAS A BIT EXTREME,LOL...
AND BRO ODMEY I ASKED FOR A OPINION NOT A JUDGEMENT.
THE POINT OF THIS POST IS TO PROMOTE DISCUSSION ON A SERIOUS MATTER AND IT IS NOT ABOUT ME PERSONALLY.
NEXT TIME U WANNA ANSWER I HOPE U WILL READ THE PREVIOUS POSTS AND THEN ANSWER, THERE IS NO REASON TO CALL ME NAMES BY INSINUITING THINGS ABOUT ME
CHILL OUT
BESBASO |
| CoolGuy | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 08:24 am
Besbeso,
I couldn't help but see the time of the day you created this frum, 5:20 am. I guess, you had some sweet dreams about things, Allah knows what, and before you made any wrong move, you decided to seek some advice from your peers. That is excellent move. Or let me put this way, are u planning to go on date tonite?
Back to the subject, as some of forums-mates put it, you abstain from pre-marital sex for your own sake regardless of your sex. And who said it is ok for guyz to do that..I, for one, don't think it is ok and trust me, aint gonna say I have never done it, but anytime I do it or try to do it, I get all these negative feelings about my action/actions.... Sister, it would have been nice if you were allowed to see what is in store for us before we make that final step but we are Muslims and our almighty religion doesn't permit us to do that. The other thing is, if you see something before hand, don't think it aint interesting no more. That is da whole idea here, be new to each other for eva...Upon arrival here in North America, I used to like to see all those short-skirt wearin fine femalez but havin seen enough of them, it aint cool anymore...I would rather see sisterz with moderate Hijaabs....
In terms of my future wife, it aint gonna be a condition for her to be virgin if she is honest about it...Da most important thing for me is a mutual understanding. Be frank about it and leave with dat...I had a friend who married to this girl, true story Walaahi, and they were so much in luv...Guess what, I think the girl laid about her virginity before the marriage...She used to tell this poor friend of mine dat she has neva seen sh't...Guess what, dat marriage lasted a week..I contribute the destruction of this family to the fact that the girl hasn't been frank or true to herself...She could have said I did it and not proud of it but what next?......
To keep it short, FIRST THING FIRST, OUR RELIGION.....
Respectz
CoolGuy(aka SweetNaturedBrother) |
| T-GIRL | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 10:35 am
What can I say the GENTLEMAN said it all.....Cool Guy LOL........Ermmmm CAN I MARRY U |
| LONDON~SWEETZ | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 11:02 am
SWEET NATURED, SADAT+ MUSLIMAH have said it all for me. Well done guys.
BESBASO: Sis i would advice you as a fellow muslim sister of yours to stop being so against good advice. I do not mean to judge you sister, as that is Allah (SWT) and Allah alone's job to judge you. You seem to have a barrier around you sister, why? Whenever a fellow brother tells you something you think they are being judgemental. I understand what you are saying sis. I too once had a fetish to ask all these questions. But i just kept going round in cirles with no answers, so i decided to stop asking others and ask myself what i wanted. I came to the conclusion that i would do what Allah (SWT) has asked me to do. I don't particularly fancy the prospects of entering hell, but as long as i have the choice i decided to do as many good things (in the eyes of Allah) and as little bad as i could in order to increase my chances of enering heaven.
I hope i have helped you sis, b'cos that is my only intention Seek answers from Allah (SWT) and the quaran and if you feel that there are no answers there then ask yourself what you want.....HEAVEN?.....OR HELL?...I'D PREFER HEAVEN? |
