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A NEW CONTRIBUTION TO SOMALI LANGUAGE

SomaliNet Forum (Archive): General Discusions: Archive1 (Before Feb 2000): A NEW CONTRIBUTION TO SOMALI LANGUAGE
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mohamed

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Salam alaykum
I am here to point out that the letter "J" does not deal with Somaliland accent sufficiently. Therefore i am proposing that people with Somaliland accent start to use, "ch" where it is appropriate. Chaceyl, Chaad, Channo, Chilib.

We already have variations such as: tiri and tidhi, so this will be a similar variation.

thank you in advancce for your feedback

salams

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abdi

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yaaab iyo aman kaak

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hebel

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waar ninyahow ma chin baad tahay?
xagaad kala soo charmadhay waxan oo chaquuq ah.
chaar beynu nahee hay qancho qancheyn eh.
yaanan feedh chilib kaa badin eh.


odey saan ma soconeyso ani dhan chaayniis chaayniis aan u cod ekaadi.

iska dhaaf J-da wax ka daran ee xumeeyeen eh sida:
jaamac....... Jumcaale
Maryan.... maano iisho
Farxaan.........faarax
qadiicha......... jiijo
shuun (anaga) ma laga hadli karo (Iyaga) fax kala xiran........shuun.......bisqin
xalwo.......(iyaga) bajaq (anaga) xaaji ciise
cusmaanta (anaga) fax kala xiran (iyaga) nin kala xiran....... cusmaan......... cismaan.
macalinka (anaga) saaxiibkaa (iyaga) ka wax ku baro.
daba kafuul (anaga) ka lacagta ururiyo koostarka (iyaga) kiiti.
kirishboy (iyaga) daba ka fuul (anaga) booyees.
tuma? (iyaga) yaa waaye? (anaga) dagaalkaa aan rabaa.

war lee maan wadeeynaa?

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hebel

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yaa dooro rabo uu duban?

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Ahmad

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Asalama Alaykum Muslims!

Mohamed,

Bro, you guys already took your part of the country -- why not just have your own writting and leave the southern accent, as it is?

I do agree with you that you people speak a way...and in writting it does NOT capture the true accent. But, hey...look at them Brits. they have a "water" and they read it like "WATA" -- thus, why not somaliland just keep pronouncing it as "CH" when they write "J"? beats me!


Peace, Ahmad!

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Macaani

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War cusub iyo beeciis,warkiinya heesta heer qaldaan,afka lees muruq idinka gelin, siin,CH,u leedihiin!!!,af,manshee ku warantiin??,af-soomaaliga aabo dhulka naga dhigteen,

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Anonymous

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niman yahow waxaan garan waayey afka reer waqooyi laga waayey ee koonfur laga helay kaasa malaa afsomaliba maaha, ayeeydey ayaa waxay oran jirtey addunyo gadoonka markuu soo dhaw yahay waxaa la arkayaa sheeqaal oo wax dhaceeso oo xawaadlena celcelinayo, marka hada reer koonfur ayaa rabto in reer waqooyi afka u hagaajiso. i didnt mean to say anything agains any tribe but it si just analogy.

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Ahmad

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Asalama Alaykum Muslims!

Macaani,

LOL! Af-somaaligaagaba haduu af-somaali yahay; af-somaali xaal badan buu u baahan yahay, saaxiib. HOWEVER, luv yur accent!


Annonymous,

Aaaahhh, Ayeeydaa maa tiri sidaas? Somaalidu waxay ku maah-maahdaa..."afar jabiba, afarteed" no wonder, ANNON.


Peace, Ahmad!

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GeeseeyGoomeey

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Awootadey lee muu iska dhaho,ayeeyo kulahaa yaanyuur ku cuntay dheh...
"Balaayaa ka dhacdee biijo maa basbaas la saaraa".

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IloveSoMaLia

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TO MOHAMED

sheekhunaa, waxaan kuweeydiiyay sheekadaada waxaa u soo jeedisay kolay reero Hargayso ee madaxwaynihiina malasoo tashatay???? Mise madaxwaynihiina waa sheekadii ahayd `SHIMBIRAALE AYAAN DAGANAHAY' lol
We are loosing our country[coz the most ppl in West. are giving it up] and now look at u , u are trying to •••• with the language.so please dont do it , blieve me that is the last thing we need right now.

This aint funny ppl!!!!!!


hope evrything works out 4 us
peace

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Mohamed

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Salams

My friend you should carry on loving somalia!

This topoc should not affect your love.

the Somali language was put to gether in a hurry.

Why is one accent the official correct accent?

this a reasonable question. If i say "Chaad", why should I use the letter "J".

free expression will make our country a better place!!!

Don't be afraid of change!

Salams

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Macaani

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Af-soomaali toosan hadiis jiro,kan bartamaha soomaaliya looga hadlo waaye,marka waxaa qasab eh in kaas buugta lagu qoro,oo dadkaanya madaxda noo eh ku waramaan.Af-soomaali,cod macaan,sheeko badan,riwaayo fiican,iyo murti aad u fiicana hadiis rabtid kaan ku hadlaayo meel kale ha u jirin.Kan heer woqooyi,waa af-soomaali goboleed,goboloyaasha aa loogu hadlaa,wax shir la la imaan karo ma ahe,ee juqdiisa lee hanaga joogo!!,Af-maayda aabo ka toosan oo ka rumeesan!!!

Axmedoow,
see ahaantaa?..afka unuka ma ku dheelo yaqoow,jeceel aa u qabno aa u jidnaa oo u maceena,LOL

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Ahmad

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Asalama Alaykum Muslims!

Mohamed,

AS I SAID, you guys can have your own thing -- you have your own corner...why not your own writting? the best thing in history for somalia is GETTING a latin letters that suit their language -- thanx to siad barre and his regime(see people - i do say positive things about siad barre...).


Macaani,

Waa yahay, Macaani -- macaanee afkaaseeto. ;)


peace, ahmad!

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hebel

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+ - = ~ & :-( So C (*_*) @ home

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shahaysi

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nin aan yaabin ayaa yiri waan yaabay
balse anigu waan yaabanahay, ee waad
jirantahay ee baawo raadso hadii kale
iskaa noolow qalbi caruur,yahow anaa
fakarayn,


shahaysi

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Anonymous #2

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Asalaamu calaykum.
Bismilaah: waan yaabay ee ma afka ayaad kabadisiin dadkii idin dhalay iyo kuwee sii dhalayba? bal xageebay nooga timid "CH" mawaxay kafiicantahay xuruufteena afka hooyo. Waxaan idin leeyahay iska daaya waxa aad badalaysaan iyo iskala saarsaarkaba.
WABILAAHI TAWFIIQ.
WASALAAMU CALAYKUM WARAXMATUL-LAAHI WABARAKAATUHU

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Mohamed

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salam alaykum

anon#2

Af iyo diin kala saar!

JUst consider the accent "J", and "Ch".

and how it is used. I am also talking about "afka hoyo"

salams

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Garruun.

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Mohammed.

Marqaan maa ku haayo saaxiiboow waxaan fiyoobi maba u ekee?. Macallinka, hal habeen maad ku baraarugtey ineyan idinku filleyn inaad soomaali manihin tiraahdaan, walibana aad isla weyninkii reer miyiga iyo qaldaannimadii ku darsataan xarfaha hala badbaddalo?.

Macallinka, yaaba hadda dhul idinku heysta soomaalidii kale teydey ka badin la'dahay ee futo biciidna gala bal in la idin wareysto.

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BADGIRL

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HEBEL.....

LOL.....GACAN....LUG.....KEYBOARD iyo macal Screenka aan kuu taagay ninyahow....

Tuma......dagaalkaa aan rabaa waye unuka..iyagana Naagtoo ayba ii tilmamahaayaan .....lol.....That made me choke on my Crisps.

Kuwaan unuka isku aduun ma nihin...isku Illah leen nahay.

PEACE

BADGIRL

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qadaafi

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waryaa reer koonfur afsoomaali ma idinkaa yaqaan xagaad ku taqaaneen afsoomliga, bal ii shhega hal buug oo af reer xamar ku qoran, soomaalidu waxay tiraahdaa yaa miskin markaa badoow yaryar oo soo dhooftay baad tihiin, wadankiina dameerda raaci jirteen , marka aanu buugta qorayno, idaacada ka hadlayno idinka luuqadiinu xagee jirtay.
waxaan ahay reer waqooyi ku dhashay xamar.
afka reer waqooyigu waa ka saxda ah ee la ogdsoonsahay.

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BULAALE

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SALAAN DHAMMAAN.


WAAR AAN IDIN KALA SAARO INTAYDAAN BUDHADH IYO TOORRIYO ISU QAADANIN.
MAXUMA RA'YIGA AH "CH" HALKII "J".
STANDARD SOMALIGU WUXUU "J" UGU DHAWAAQAA SIDA ENLISHKA LOOGU DHAWAAQO "CH" TAAS OON AHAYN SIDA CARABIGA XARAFKA "JIIM" UGU DHAWAAQO.
DADKA REER BANAADIRKA AH AYAA UGU DHAWAAQA SIDA CARABIGA WAANA DIALECT.

STANDARD SOMALIGA WAXAA UGU DHAW OO KU HADLA DADKA REER GALBEEDKA AH KUWAASO GOBOLLADA WAQOOYI,SOMALI GALBEED IWM.
STANDARD SOMALIGUNA WAA KA WAR ISGAADHSIINTA, XAFIISYADA DOWLADDA IYO WAXBARASHADABA LOO ISTICMAALO.
AF-SOMALIGA DADKA UGU BADIYANA WAA DADKAAS AAN KOR KU SOO TILMAAMAY.

NABAADIIN.

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WiilHargeisa

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Waryaadhehee

Reer Xamarow, dee ma jaajuur baad tihiin, mise jabaqdaydaadan maqal, waa maxay is jikaarku, jin baa idinla tagaye naga jooja jahwareerka, ma jabad baan idiinka yeedhnay mise dhagahaad jufaysateen, naga daaya jiqiiqda iyo wararka jaane, jifaan nahaye aynu isla wada joogno.

Dee nabadeey

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Muriidi

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Abbow Axmed!!!!!!!waraa imaaday

Usu hadda kan af Somali waaye maas dhihi rabaa mise waa nagu dheelooyaa. Fiiri qaldaan, ma kasee La faltee la beekhtee ku roonyi

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NeefoowKaniii

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,,,,,,,Mariidi Hooy Yac,,,,,,,see ahaantaa ad Ishoon ka Ishoon,,,,,Ingaraa Ingareed,,,,


Beesha hantiwaraaga
Bash Bash ii birwaakho
Bini Aadninimida
Lagu bidbaado yeelee
Baakhii kacaanka weeyee
Badar ninkii awuurttooo
Usaa Beekhahaayee
Waxaa loo tartamayaa
Aan lagaa badininee;;..''


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Dukhaaynaa iyo Doob
Waa inaan DIDAALNAA
Dalkaayna waa inaan
U duuwanaaaaaaaaaa
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Amxaaradaan midoow
Iimaan laheenee
Inshaa alaahu
waa laga soo adkaana

***********,,,,,,,


La faltee la beekharee ki roonye!!!!!!!!!!!!Cajiib ahaana

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*4u*

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my friend, what do you mean we should change the letter j to ch. you guys tried to change lots of things in somalia which led to disaster.so dont
try to change anything so we could live happy and in peace.

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Amaan

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hi Mohamed
did you meant contribution to Somaliland language not Somali language? becouse your propose is for people with Somaliland accent.are you counting somaliland out of somalia? or you are completely forgeting that Somali people have more than one accent. My apoligy if you have a plan to solve all our accent difficulty. Also, don't misunderstand my piont I am only a person who love having one nation with one language.
bye for know and god bless our people!

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^Somali^

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Asalama Alayhum My Somali brothers & sisters!

I would like to say Amaan and *4u*I understand and respect your view points,their are indeed valid but if only Mohamed and people who share his views had the same level comperhension as you guys then maybe these comments would be helpful to them.

Ahmad, maximum respect I totally agree with you and see your point. I believe people from the North have their own so called "country", "flag", "national anthem", "government" so why not their own khaldan way of writing too! Mohamed bro plz enlighten me: I hear All ministerial posts have been filled execpt for one. So I would sincerly like to know WHO IS THE MINISTER FOR JAAD? OOOps I meant Chaat? Sorry if I misspelt, I am not used to writing wrongly!
I personaly think us Southerns should say fair enough, and good luck to you guys just dont come crying when you find that your land aint fertile. And dont come begging to buy bananas from us because we will sell it to you in dollars not shillings and in Wall street not the streets of Xamar! Then we will see who needs whom!

Mohamed,
I dont intend to offend you, I am just trying to wise up my own people, but in this process if anybody gets offended I do NOT apologise! Bro before trying to write your own khaldaan language why not first get recognicition from UN and the world and estblish your government before the world.

I think the latter advice would come in handy!

I say if people from the north, otherwise known as Somalilanders want to be part of Somalia then WELCOME if not then GOOD RIDDENCE!
Mohamed, plz also answer is there such thing as Somalisky? Coz i can’t see a Somalia & a Somaliland, perhaps it would be a good idea if you guys got yourselves a new name while you were in the process of language revolution.

Salam!

P.S. Somalia 4-eva and 4-eva Somali.

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^Somali^

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People you know I went to the doctor after posting my message, my complinet was that I was coming down with a virus of misspelling coz in my last message I mistakenly spelt Asalama Alaykum as Asalama Alayhum. I started to cry, and the doctor started to laugh wildly at me he said I have good news and bad news. I said good news first he said,"there are a few people with your condition, they are called Khaaldan" I said that's the good news! I said if that's the good news that I dont want to know the bad news! As I was walking out of his office in a huff, he quickly said "I am afraid you are incureable so get yourself a plot of land near Mohamed and people will never know that you are a misspeller!".

Salam
p.s. ppl from South I hope you enjoy this joke!

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Xawa

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To ^Somali^
lol lol lol lol lol in future plz write in the humor section!!!

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Mohamed

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salams

Hi Somali,

The word you are looking for is "chaad", I am merely suggesting that it should be written the way it is pronounced. Without out getting to heavy with the politics.

salams

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Mohamood

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Big up yourself Somali!
Salaan
Last time I checked my rather old looking Somali dictionary it described that filthy addictive drug,which looks like grass even cows sufferin' from mad cow disease wouldnt eat, as "JAAD"

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Anonymous

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somali,
Why do people from the south get so defensive when "somaliland" is mentioned? Why are u people so jelouse of us? Is it because we are more educated, open minded, better looking, are more civilized and more gracious?
We don't need your nasty bananas!
You guys should just try to get your sh*t together, and stop fighting amongst yourselves!!!

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jamal

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Somali language shall stay the same.Even thought it is written in somali version..People spent alot of time and dedication to write the somali language..The man who wrote the somali language spent half of his life writing it,his name is"DR.SHIRE JAAMAC "JUGE".May he rest in peace.DIED JUST RECENT at sweden.Please stop the nonsense somali is one.NO NORTH OR SOUTH...SAME COLOR/LANGUAGE/RELIGION/AND EVERY WHERE IN THE WORLD WE ARE LOOKED AS ON(SOMALI).JUST BE PROUD OF WHO WE ARE AND WAKE UP FROM THE DEAD..WE SHOULD BE PEOPLE WITH RELIGION/LAND/....DAMN...LOOK AT AS WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A HOME.....to be continued:

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waddani always

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to whom ever cares:
soomaaligu waa wax aan qoys lahayn , nin abuuray oo sheegan karaan jirin,
Soomaali waa hal aan qaybsami karayn, nagana wada dhaxaysa, ciddii wada jirkeeda nacebay ama qabiil lahjadiisa raadinaysa inay u qiil bixisaay, get ur own language, and ur own name cause this is for us all

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Amaan

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helllow mohamed

Jamaal

I totally agree with you and see your point. Somali language shall stay the same and we should be graceful to those people who but their time and offer also, Somali people must get along together for their own good.

Anonymous
read agian carefuly all we want regarless accent, Somali being one nation with one language so tell me who is defensive now this is your own words "Is it because we are more educated, open minded, better looking, are more civilized and more gracious?" please don't flatter you self and I dont intend to offend you,but if claim to be civilized talk like one.

mohamed

I beleave i ask you view Q before are you going to answer or just portend that you didn't see them? did you have plan to solve all our accent difficulty?

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skimoos

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To dhamaan

walalayaal waa idin wada salaamay..
runti wiilka meeshaan dooda ka furan
wiil aad maskax u leh waaye.. laakin aniga waxeeyba ila tahay in wax saas u sii dhib badan eeysan aheeyn , sababtoo ah ilaa iyo hada dacaayadeeyn ma ahine iidoo rurun laba qofood oo koonfur iyo waqooyi ka kala imaadeen oo hadana afsomligooda daraadiis si afgarad waa ka dhecay oo luqunta iska gooyey ma jiraano.. marka waxaan idin leeyahay intiiba lees af fahmaayo dhib ma dhacaayo..

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Mohamed

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salams

Hi Skimoos

you make a lot of sense.

and thank you for your contribution.

if all somalis where like you there would be no war!

salams

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mohamed

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salams

Hi Amaan

Read Bulaale ( 15 March)

this might be usefull, it is a sensible contribution.

As for other accents and the need for them to be written: This matter will be taken up by the people it affects and concerns. I can only speak about my accent. But i have an open mind about other peoples culture and accent.

I hope this answers your question.

salams

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canabali

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Iyaah war la uunbo uunbeeeyo weykac ayaa ka roon ma maqsheene, maalinttii ay lahaayeen waa goynay aan iska gartay in ay wax ka weyn soo wadaan umadaas maantan maxaa la keenay xarafka <J>aan hee <CH> umbedelno cajiib maxay isku maleeyeene ingiriisaaa ileen horaa loo yiridamiirkii fardaha la daaqo baqal buu ismoodaa.
mida kale aan rabo in aan weydiiyo umadaas ayaa ah maku fekereen in ay iska dhaafaan wax yaalah ka yimaado koonfurta zxageeda oo ay iyag un isku filnadaan

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BULAALE

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Salaan dhammaan

afafka qalaad sannad walba waxaa laga yaabaa in adjustments lagu sameeyo sida erayooyin cusub oo lagu soo kordhiyo etc. shakhsiyan waxay ila tahay in fikradda uu mohamed soo jeediyay ay tahay macquul. laakiin waxaa wanaagsan in si hufan aragtida laysu dhaafsado iyadoon siyaasad iyo arrimo kale la galin.
waxayna ila tahay inkastuu afka somaligu qoran yahay uu haddana u baahan yahay cilmi baadhid fara badan. isaga uu mar walba standard somaligu noqonayo ka war isgaadhsiinta iyo dawladaba hadana
waxaa laga maarmaan ah in lahjad waliba qoran tahay, si ummadu si fiican isugu fahmaan. tusaale nin reer waqooyi ah iyo mid reer banaadir ah communication koodu marmar ayuu aad u adkaadaa oo aysan isfahmin.

waligeed miyaad aragteen meel ay ku qoran yihiin
NAW,AGA,HAY,NOOH,DHEGA,SHAA etc.

AF-SOMALIGU MA DHAMMAYSTIRRO.waa in lawada qoraa ka reer miyiga, magaalada, beeralayda ,xeebeedka.

NABAADIIN.

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Gobaad

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gobaad 27 March '00

I agree with mohamed. What most people don't know
is that the sound that "j" stands in the inglish
is different, it is called voiced, which in turn
means deeper, And therefore it is decieving to the
ears Somali english speak

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Dhaayoow

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HOT HOT News, just read and enjoy, we may end up like them as Mohamed opened this gate:

Euro-English-----------
The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's government conceded that English spelling
had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro forshort). In the first year, 's' will be used instead of the soft 'c'. Sertainly,sivil servants will resieve this news with joy. Also, the hard 'c' will be replaced with 'k.' Not only will this klear up
konfusion, but typewriters kan have one less letter.There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome 'ph' will be replaced by 'f'. This will make words like'fotograf' 20 per sent shorter. In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the removal of
double letters,which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of silent 'e's in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go. By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such
as replasing 'th' by 'z' and 'w' by 'v'. During ze fifz year, ze unesesary 'o' kanbe dropd from vords kontaining 'ou', and similar changes vud of kors; be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters. After zis fifz yer, ve vil hava reli sensibl riten
styl. Zer vil b no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru.

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Anonymous

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reer waqooyi ingriis jacayl ayaa meesha idin dhigay horaa loo yiri hadii reer waqooyi janada loogu bishaareeyo wuxuu oran lahaa janada ingriis ma ku jiraa hadii maya la yiraahdo wuxuu oran lahaa dee dooni maayo. ugu yaraan reer koonfureedka damiir ayey leeyihiin

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2PAC

Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 04:54 pm
WAZUP UP G U MAKE ME LUAF NIGGER DHAAYOW
THANX, THANX. THAT IS A CLEAR EXPAMPLE ALSO
PIS OUT=
THUG LIFE, NIGGER WEST SIDE, DEATHROW, MAKAVELI, KILUMUNAARA AND AMUURI.THIS IS DIDACATED TO U PUNK MOTHER F-KERS NORTHSIDERS.

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hebel

Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 07:17 pm
Oh go eat yar shoe...freak.

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2pac

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•••• u man, y u like to mess around like a bitch,holla at me.

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