     Jiijo | Unrecorded Date
A lot of somalian youth are woried too much about matching PPLE that have different calture and different relegion,,, and never think back of where they came from and how things were different from her.
Some of the young somalian pple are taking care of the situation wisely and remembering all the time that they are from far away from were we are today and also knowing better the reason they are her today is not to jump on everything that they see in the bicture of the screen and etc.
Iam asking for interesting opinions not stupidity.
so if u have good topic to share,please don"t hesitate.................
wa salaamu calaykum ...........Jiijo |
| CiiseRooti | Unrecorded Date
Lost..between...huh? yeah,I call it "Marginalty"
CiiseRooti |
| Luula | Unrecorded Date
Aslmu calukum,
TO CIISE ROOTI: ninyohow di meel walba ma joogtaa, koobnoow oo hadalkaagu murti dheer ha lahaado, hadii kale han qasin yarka,LOL(no offence).
Sister JIIJO:
Qof yahay, markaan textigaaga akhriyay, waxaanba i mooday inaan anigu qoray! Wadankeenii iyo meeshaan ka imi marnaba qalbigayga kama dhamaadaan, o waxwalba aan samaynayo waxaan ka fiirshaa faaidad ay soomaliya ku yeelan karaan (profession, job,etc). Stupidly, i even think about the winter clothes and shoes, etc, when i buying them if i'm gonna need them back home, as if i'm going back the next day.
I hope to go back some day, and i'm planning to go back and help to rebuild our lovely Land, inshaa alaah.
Ilaahay hayna soo wada hadeeyo, saaan dhalinyarada badankeed ka arko, meelna ugama socdaan meeshay joogaan.
Talk to u soon.
Waslamu calykum.
Allah bless u all. |
| Jiijo | Unrecorded Date
Thanks bro ur one of the last few pple that im countin on alah bls u again and thanks again for ur interesting answer.........
SisterJiijo |
| Jiijo | Unrecorded Date
That was for u sister Luula |
| ahmad | Unrecorded Date
asalama alaykum muslims,
jiijo,
actually, jiijo -- those somalis who try to be like the west, always end up being confused. the west has nothing to offer -- it is reletively young and FEDERATED...with all different cultures/morals/religions/etc etc etc. somalia, where 99% of the people generally have similar morals, is not the west. our culture is influenced by arabic culture...in later years. however, there is a true root of somali culture -- which somalis, no matter how far gone they seem, all share -- and that is SOMALISM.
i have met somalis who never been to somalia -- or never had exposure of our culture...but are SOMALIS. hahahaha! it is hard to believe...but it is true. i think we should count our blessings and i think we somalis should believe in our people and their dedication to the land of somalia! after all, we think -- we believe -- we experience it. thus, is it not better to have positive thoughts about us...so that we can experience positive us????
peace - ahmad! |
| Sam | Unrecorded Date
ahmed : No offence bro, but what you wrote here does not make any sense,,
>>i have met somalis who never been to somalia -- or never had exposure of our culture...but are SOMALIS. hahahaha<<<
what do you mean by they "never had exposure to our culture" ?????
Do you mean that Somalis who were born outside Somalia are not Somalis ???
Let me give you the chance to clarify that point before I give you my views on that issue. |
| MAD MAC | Unrecorded Date
And that in a nutshell is why most Somalis are notoriously poor assimlilators. The same problem the Turks have in Germany. If you live in a country you have to adopt some of the basic social mores of that place or you will be looked upon as a social outcast. That, of course, doesn't mean you have to change your moral beliefs, but it does mean that you should try and blend with the locals wherever possible. Example - dress. I wouldn't go walking around the streets of DC wearing a mawis. It would just look ridiculous. Now in Hamer it looks perfectly OK. You have to apply a little common sense here.
I have lived in Somalia, Haiti, Saudi and Germany (a long time in Germany) and everywhere I go I try to assimilate as much as possible. OK in Saudi Arabia it was impoassible - I might as well have been on a different planet. But everywhere else. |
| ahmad | Unrecorded Date
asalama alaykum muslims,
sam,
>>i have met somalis who never been to somalia -- or never had exposure of our culture...but
are SOMALIS. hahahaha<<
i mean, somalis -- whose parents are somalis...but are WESTERNIZED and have no somali tradition whatsoever. who, themselves are born in the west. thus, the children never have the exposure to our culture. their parents live -- outside suburbs wehre you will never find a somali...unless he's just driving by it. however, beyond all that, i know somalis WHO are still somalis -- deep down...still our own people in every way.
peace - ahmad |
| PaPa | Unrecorded Date
Mad Mac:
>>If you live in a country you have to adopt some of the basic social mores of that place or you will be looked upon as a social outcast<<<<
The point you are trying to make here just shows how ignorant you can get.
When the White people came to North America did they blend with the Native Indians ?
When the White man went to settle in Africa did he blend with the Africans. ?????????
The White Man did Not Assimilate with the locals,,,,He killed them, He stole their land and put the locals in a Native Reserve.
They did not bother to learn the local languages they forced the Africans to learn English, Italian, French or whatever...
Apartheid was the policy in Africa,,
Segregation was the Law In United States.
And you dare call other people poor Assimilators !!!!
Boy,, you must have a very poor memory, or is it just plain White Hypocracy ?
, |
| MAD MAC | Unrecorded Date
PaPa
When white people did those things did you like it? I can tell from your write up you think it's bullshit. Now I didn't say white people were good assimilators - although I am. I said Somalis were poor assimilators. Saying Somalis are poor assimilators does not infer that white people are good assimilators. You comment shows just how poor your logic train is. Also, my Grandmother is American Indian - I ain't all white. I am not a hypocrite, although frankly I don't give a •••• what you think about me. |
| raage | Unrecorded Date
papa long live to you, you veiws very strong, and makes mad cow very shaking. |
| MAD MAC | Unrecorded Date
Raage
You think his views are very strong? Examine what he is saying carefully. When you scrape away the veneer, he is saying that all white people suck - and he says that while he lives off of their largesse. Don't you think that's a little hypocritical? Don't you think the world has had enough of the good guy / bad guy syndrome? Maybe we should judge each other as individuals a little more and as groups a little less? While Somalis have a difficult time assimilating (Somalis and Europeans are culturally a long way apart) that doesn't mean I''m saying there's something wrong with them or that they're evil or we should send them all back home or whatever. Why do you and Raage hace a difficult time discussing a problem without it becoming a name calling match? |
| Anonymous | Unrecorded Date
MAD MAC i sugest you not to waste your precious time with crazy people |
| MAD MAC | Unrecorded Date
Anonymous
These crazy people are my people. I don't think I'm wasting my time. |
| CiiseRooti | Unrecorded Date
By da way, did yall called da Credit bureau for ya yearly assesment?
CiiseRooti |
| analyzer | Unrecorded Date
the caw
sense of belonging huh? dude...yeeah.... me too...i sense some good intentions gone wrong dude... just because your intentions are great doesn't mean you understand the core of somali problems man... |
| MAD MAC | Unrecorded Date
Analyer
Am I the Caw? You know what they say about the road to hell? Indeed. |
| muslimah | Unrecorded Date
assalamu alaikum warahmah,
I've gotta agree with mad mac (as much as I hate to admit it :) ) when he said that you've gotta integrate and not fully assimilate...you've gotta keep your religion believes, and cultural values at the same time you've gotta also adapt to the society you're living in's ways...you can't make it if you tell yourself, you're not gonna adapt to this country's ways...you've gotta learn the law and I am emphasizing this because many somali's or emmigrants for this matter are not aware of their rights and thus end up being discriminated against...whether it's for religion, ethnicity or racial reasons...you've gotta know your rights as an employee and overall your rights as a human being...
All I'm saying is that We can't expect to be here and live as if though we were in somalia...take what's beneficial to you and leave what's harmful to you or what's not useful to you
assalamu alaikum warahmah |
| muslimah | Unrecorded Date
assalamu alaikum warahmah,
I've gotta agree with mad mac (as much as I hate to admit it :) ) when he said that you've gotta integrate and not fully assimilate...you've gotta keep your religion believes, and cultural values at the same time you've gotta also adapt to the society you're living in's ways...you can't make it if you tell yourself, you're not gonna adapt to this country's ways...you've gotta learn the law and I am emphasizing this because many somali's or emmigrants for this matter are not aware of their rights and thus end up being discriminated against...whether it's for religion, ethnicity or racial reasons...you've gotta know your rights as an employee and overall as a human being...
All I'm saying is that We can't expect to be here and live as if though we were in somalia...take what's beneficial to you and leave what's harmful to you or what's not useful to you
assalamu alaikum warahmah |
| analyzer THE DEFENDER OF FREE SOMALIA | Unrecorded Date
mad $$$,
so now you are challenging the caw or cow whatever... hmmm. well, i do not know what to say... man...the road to hell by the dude who created nomadnet huh? well, i did not read it, but i had a chance to scan some chapters of it and also read its reviews and it focused on mishandling and looting of the aid in somalia, so what? bad people are among in every society..for instance, your own people treated humans like •••• so what!! times had changed as time will change in somalia |
| MAD MAC | Unrecorded Date
Recommend you read the book. Very interesting account of how aid contributions led to the destruction of Somali society. But you got to read it through. There are some poignant lessons there for the future. |
| analyzer | Unrecorded Date
yeah yeah .......yeah!!! very interesting account of how aid contributions led to ........." don't you think there are overlooked elements here....what actually led somalia to destruction......before the the aid....what in fact caused the aid in first place.......and why would somalia kept getting aid throughout the years? look for such answers and i might be more sendeful here...i also agree some of how micheal laid his thesis and concluded......by the way, i scanned the book but it's not like it's the damn "DEFINITVE SOMALI POLITICS AND CAUSES OF THE CIVIL WAR"............is there such thing....if you ever come across, chech out my name THE WRITER FORMERLY KNOWN AS ANALYZER>>>>> peace..... |
| MAD MAC | Unrecorded Date
All I said is read the book, the author has an interesting thesis including what caused the aid to start and continue. It's just an interesting thesis certainly not all-encompasing. His book is more about aid and the problems associated with it than it is about Somalia. Chill dude. |
| analyzer | Unrecorded Date
mad ass,
chilling!!! having a bud....watching the game..... |
| Troubled..mind | Unrecorded Date
mad ass,
chilling!!! having a bud....watching the game.....
and not the mention I'm a sick motha 'bleeb' and very insane.
that's what you were trying to say isn't it Analyzer. |
| analyzer | Unrecorded Date
t-mind
yup......that's exactly what i'm sayin'..
could u move on now?...... |
| BADGIRL | Unrecorded Date
Some of us are actually BRITISH-IONIZED...Thank U...... |
