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     | Unrecorded Date What does eveyone think? Will the RRA attack and attempt to seize qooreoley once and for all? Are they now allied with the Digil Salvation Army as I heard? A successful assault on Qooreoley would leave the way open for a seizure of Baraawe which would be cut off from receiving reinforcement accept by sea, a skethcy proposition at best. The real question is can the RRA seize Bali Dogle and Afgooye? I personally believe that to do that the RRA will have to come to some sort of arrangement with the Galjel (since they are ••••••) who are more closely linked with the SNA than the RRA. Failure to passify the Galjel would leave the entire northern flank exposed to SNA counterattack whereas if they can close the bridge at Afgooye, with the Abgal controlling the bridge at Balad, the SNA would be bottled up. Any thoughts on the subject?
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| | Unrecorded Date I think anything can happen between the tribes in peace time and in war time, but can any foreign government help the Somalis make peace or create more fightings or can foreign people influence in Somalis in any way? i do not think so.
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| | Unrecorded Date I think anything can happen between the tribes in peace time and in war time, but can any foreign government help the Somalis make peace or create more fightings or can foreign people influence the Somalis in any way? i do not think so.
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| | Unrecorded Date Get a life! or go on PROZAC or some •••• SHAYDAAN!
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| | Unrecorded Date Get a life! or go on PROZAC or some •••• SHAYDAAN!
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| | Unrecorded Date GAAL BOY Still trying to fit in With Somali Muslims. Ask Allah for forgiveness.
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| | Unrecorded Date Asad I'll just stick with a part of your piece: "Anything can happen!" OPSODOS Nice to see you back. Glad to see you gave up your life to get back on the net abai. MN Man I consider myself multi-cultural. And I guess whether Allah wants to forgive me or not is up to him. But I suspect we all ned to pray for forgiveness. Certainly the Somalis have plenty to pray for.
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| | Unrecorded Date mad mac, > I'll just stick with a part of your > piece: "Anything can happen!" yes, anything can happen between the somalis, but i do not think any foreign government can help the Somalis make peace between the somalis. somalis will have to learn to do that for themselves without any foreing help. somalis do not trust themselves and i do not think they will trust foreign/non-muslims people coming to their help. do you think you (americans) can come back to somalia and help the somalis, mad mac?
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| | Unrecorded Date mad mac, > And I guess whether Allah wants to forgive me > or not is up to him. But I suspect we all need > to pray for forgiveness yes, we all need Allah's forgiveness. if we do not need Allah's forgiveness, we do not deserve the forgiveness. by the way, mad mad, what do you think will happen if we do not deserve Allah's forgiveness? will Allah treat all of us the same(those who deserve Allah's forgiveness and those who do not deserve Allah's forgivene), i mean is not the opposite of forgiveness blameworthines that deserves retribution (justice), or will those culprits of us go scot-free without justice?
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| | Unrecorded Date Wacaalow meesha maxaa ka sameynaysa!!! MAD COW just because I logon doesn't mean i've given up on my life.... perhaps you have????
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| | Unrecorded Date Asad Do I think Americans can come back to Somalia and help Somalis? It's really a moot point. The Aemricans are not going to come back to Somalia period. As for the question of who Allah will forgive and who he won't again that's up to him. Trying to postulate that is an effort in futility. I can't read the mind of Allah and neither can you. Opsodos that was a joke. I haven't given up my life for the inernet, I've put it on old for Bosnia (and the money associated with my presence here)
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| | Unrecorded Date mad mac, >Do I think Americans can come back to Somalia and help Somalis? It's really a moot point. The >Aemricans are not going to come back to Somalia >period. then, it is a moot point for any american (including mad mac) to have an interest in Somali affairs. >As for the question of who Allah will forgive and who he won't again that's up to him. since you said "we all need to pray for forgiveness", the question to you was----why would someone need and ask for forgiveness, i mean, what is he or her afraid of?
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| | Unrecorded Date Asad Point of contention number one: I am not "The Americans" I am an American who has probably lived in America less in the last 15 years than you have. Moreover, Somalia is no longer a state - there is no central authority I can ask for a visa. Anarchy has a funny way of doing that. So I am going back and I am going to work my projects and no one is going to persuade me otherwise. Now, as for your question about what needs to be forgiven. We have all done something in our life that we've regretted. Anyone who tels you they never did something they shouldn't have is a liar and can add that to his list of sins.
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| | Unrecorded Date Mad Mac. I don't think any tribe in somalia is ready to wage a war on another tribe. Besides, no one is interested any more death that benefits only the agents and the warmongers in our society. One has to learn from his mistakes and all somalis learnt either directly or indirectly from the war. The lack of a central government in somalia means very little for many somalis and the only people FIGHTING AGAINST IT ARE ALL THE CURRENT FACTION AND REGION leaders who see the end of their power when somalis again reliven the name of the country under the same flag. Sooner or later they will be killed by enraged society, one that is fed up with their lies and warmongering. As far as I am concerned there will be no war for the land is for all somalis Despite what you hear. I know people from all tribes of somalis are free to go and do bussiness wherever they want. They feel safe and connection to their hosts and no body bothers them. There are few cases of theifs who would kill a father or a mother anyway for their greed. All in All, NO MORE WARS. I can tell the somalis you hang out with are THE WORST SOMALIS I can ever immagine for one reason; This tribal information they give to you tells they were not from educational background. They are neither raligious nor patriots. They are losers because they should have told you they are all brothers and sisters. Wars and proplems won't make them enemies to each other for eternity.
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| | Unrecorded Date mad mac, >>>Do I think Americans can come back to Somalia and help Somalis? It's really a moot point. The Americans are not >>>going to come back to Somalia period. >>then, it is a moot point for any american (including mad mac) to have an interest in Somali affairs. >I am not "The Americans" I am an American who has probably lived in America less in the last 15 years than you have. it is still really a moot point for any Amirican to come back to Somalia, period, because the Somalis do not care and have no preference of which american is which. >Moreover, Somalia is no longer a state - there is no central authority I can ask for a visa. Anarchy has a funny way of >doing that. when the americans came to samalia in order to help the somalis, there were still anarchy in the country and there was no central authority. did the you or other americans (and other foreign countries) asked for visas to enter Somalia when you came to Somalia before? >So I am going back and I am going to work my >projects and no one is going to persuade me >otherwise. all i'm informing you is that it is a moot point for any foreigner person to come to somalia again until somalis take care of their affairs themselves. somalis need to help themselves first and learn to take care of their business. to think you (mad mac) can save or help the somalis from themselves is the height of arrogance and again meddling some other people’s affairs is really a moot point. >>since you said "we all need to pray for forgiveness", the question to you was----why would someone need and ask for >>forgiveness, i mean, what is he or she afraid of? >We have all done something in our life that we've regretted. Anyone who tels you they never did something they >shouldn't have is a liar and can add that to his list of sins. i agree that no one is sin free, but the question was---what are you afraid of and why are you asking Allah for forgiveness and why do you need Allah to forgive you? let me make the answer easy for you. fill the blank: "i, mad mad, if i do not "pray for forgiveness",--------------"?
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| | Wednesday, July 05, 2000 - 08:40 am Mad mac I'm infuriated with your arrogance pronouncement in reference to your quote "I guess whether Allah wants to forgive me or not its upto him"?What is your problem,man?You state your opinion with complete arrogance,and sort of give Allah an ultimatum!Please its certaily crystal clear you are a pegan but DO NOT address our creator as "Allah" while your religeon is NOT established.Not that i give a damn about your devil worshiping orientation,but i do give a damn about someone who is ignorant enough to use that tone towards Allah!This is outrageous!
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| | Wednesday, July 05, 2000 - 11:31 am ma'alim. jazakallaahu kheyran bro. this place is dominated by gaalo and their munaafiqiin. soon they will be on your neck telling you to shut up.
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| | Wednesday, July 05, 2000 - 06:54 pm We now have a Gaal Qabiiliste, Ladies and Gentlemen
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| | Thursday, July 06, 2000 - 07:13 am Waa yaabka yaabkiiseh horta yaa gaalada na baray.
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| | Tuesday, July 25, 2000 - 05:01 am Boy did this conversation drift. I get off of the net for a little while and away we go - Ok I'm as guilty as the next guy. Anyway, back to the subject at hand. How do you guys see the tactical situation shaping up? Is the RRA going to kick some Haber Gedir ass or are the •••••• going to unite to drive back the Rahanweyne or are they both going to say time out?
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| | Tuesday, July 25, 2000 - 01:22 pm mad cow boy why don't u stick with the so called Middle East peace process and leave us alone, American boy. Free ur self from the jews, who are colonizing ur people. pastaaaaaaa.
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| | Tuesday, July 25, 2000 - 11:39 pm Hudur-boy The Jews are colonizing "My People?" And exactly who are my people? I'm an American and we come from everywhere. And the Jews are hardly colonizing the United States. You sound like a Nazi with some idea of a world wide Jewish conspiracy to dominate the world. Reality check. And if you think my interest in Somalia is bizarre how 'bout your interest in the conflict between Israel and Palestine. Talk about not having a dog in the fight. Obviously some misguided notion about Islamic Brotherhood.
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| Can't help to pity the insignificant.......can't help really! | Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 02:52 am mad cow disease Shut up...obviously you dont belong in these forrums,why torture youself...in constant attempt to fit in,face it...just like in high school you were a geek and a nerd,does not mean the reputation ends in high school.In real world...FACE IT...you still the geek.heloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo?
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| | Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 03:15 am Last time I checked c-span all yankees were nazis voting against any help for funding the peace process. They are sick and tired of this jewish lobby who squeezes the breath out of american tax payers including myself.
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| | Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 03:52 am The Jewish lobby can't squeeze anything out of anyone. They can lobby, just like other lobbyist groups do. But the American Congress don't need the Jewish vote to win most districts and the president certainly doesn't need it. The Jewish population is too small. The Jews have been very successful at making us feel bad for them because the Palestinians (and most of the other rag heads) are stupid enough to kill lots of innocent people and work hard to maximize media exposure to their deeds. On top of that they look like a bunch of unshaven barbarians screeming Allahu Ahkbar so they can give the impression that all Muslims are a bunch of suicidal nuts. The Jews have simply won the puplicity war. When they do nasty things they're smart enough not to broadcast it to the world. There is a Palestinian lobby and the Palestinians really have a good case but they couldn't sell a free vacation to Florida to the Eskimos - their PR sucks.
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| | Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 07:40 am lol with mad cow disease hey bro or sis it's this kind of comic genese that keeps me coming to this site. keep it up
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| | Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 08:46 pm Mad, shame on you man. "Jews not only decide who wins presidency but They are also the think-tanks and institutes which masquerade in various forms often portraying themselves as intellectual and academic centers. In reality, they are the "War Lobbyists" if you will. Chief among them and much on the rise ever since the Reagan years are the right-wing militarist Jewish groups closely associated with both the Israeli/Jewish lobby -- especially its Likud wing -- and the Pentagon. The unknowing think that this powerful "lobby" is just the group on Capitol Hill known as the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). The reality is that since the Reagan years this Israeli/Jewish lobby has sub-divided, expanded, and grown into a large assortment of loosely coordinated organizations and groups whose power and influence has never been more dominant on the Washington scene. It is not a single address, but rather a group of interlinked organizations and personalities which are today deeply entrenched in the ways of American politics and media. One of the lesser known organizations involved in this "Israeli/Jewish lobby" is called JINSA, the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, now located in the K Street corridor, the power center of today's Washington. JINSA works in a variety of ways. It helps position key people in key jobs throughout Washington. It holds regular briefings that are a combination of propaganda and intelligence-gathering. And it regularly pushes its ideas, and carefully chosen (kosher if you will) spokesman, on the media. All the quotes in this article come from JINSA publications." I have a lot more coming like the acceptance speech of the presidency by clinton and how he made it religiously adorable to stand by the jewish people against the marauding filthy arabs(muslims). Bush had to kiss ass to win the jewish vote. All runners for the seat have to act in front of the jewish crowd like they are in worship and show humbleness and lower themselves so down that the viewer gets the real idea of who calls the shots in this country. You are liar Mad who wants save a face by defending his failed leaders.
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| | Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 08:55 pm And Mad, hang in there because in this group you need a stone-face and a skin so thick that a piercing bullet won't go through pal.
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| | Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 09:45 pm Bootan I have been on the site and hanging with Somalis long enough to know you need thick skin, but thanks for the warning anyway. OK, first on the liar accussation: A liar is someone who deliberately tells an untruth. I do not do that so I do not qualify. You may think I'm stupid, misinformed, whatever, but I am not a liar. Now for the next point. I can only conclude from your rational that the Jews must be highly organized, extremely clever and very wealthy to manage to dominate the entire political landscape of the US and UN. Therefore, everyone who is a victim of this incredible mass subterfuge must be inferior anyway and deserving of whatever comes their way. Thus, by your own admission, the Arabs are too stupid to defend their own interests and not worthy of anything other than the table scraps thrown to them. Although again I would maintain that the Somalis don't have a dog in this fight anyway. It's not as if the Somalis have a military or economic interest in either Palestine or Israel.
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| | Thursday, July 27, 2000 - 02:56 am Mr.Mad, the deal doesn't include spoonfeeding me your imprinted jewish impressions in your bible as well in your american brain. Let us say a race so hated by all humanity has to survive and thus must stay ahead of his sworn enemies for life. If they are anything they are :Apt to take part in illicit or corrupt activity. larcenous, bent, bribable, buyable, corruptible, crooked, extortionate, mercenary, purchasable, sticky-fingered, subornable, thievish, usurious, venal and on top of that, the most racist human beings ever walked on earth.
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| | Thursday, July 27, 2000 - 03:42 am Bootan Well Sahib, I can only conclude from your diatribe tht you are an anti-semite. No race should be hated by anyone, but of course we all know that there are people out there who love to hate. I can understand disgreeing with the policies of a given state, disagreeing with certain religious beliefs, etc. But to hate an entire group of people who are neccessarily diverse in their own thinking and attitudes is wrong. Tomorrow I'll bring in my Qur'an and prove that your attitude is un-Islamic. Oh yeah, again I reiterate that the conflict between Israel and Palestine is irrelevant to the Somalis. They have no military or economic interests in Palestine or Israel. So why you care about that issue a lick is beyond me. Must be some mis-guided notion of Islamic brotherhood.
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| | Thursday, July 27, 2000 - 11:19 am Mad Mac, Every time you post something your portrait Jews as victims. I wonder do you have Jew boss? Or you just scared that someone might report you to higher authorities. Every American knows that Jews are bloodsuckers. Why don't you admit that? Do you have any clue the amount of money the Jews collect from the American government every year? Or you just playing dumb and naïve. Wake up damn it, the number of homeless are increasing day after day specially among blacks and red Indians and while your government are building houses and roads in Israel.
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| | Thursday, July 27, 2000 - 12:17 pm mad mac, you said "Oh yeah, again I reiterate that the conflict between Israel and Palestine is irrelevant to the Somalis." what about the conflict between the somalis----why is that a relevant to an american person like you? do you have no military or economic interests in somali on somali conflict? why you care about somali issues is beyond me. Must be some mis-guided notion of un-Islamic and intrusion by gaal.
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| | Thursday, July 27, 2000 - 12:23 pm Well well well what do I have here my favorite cousin accusing my favorite Gaal of being a jew lover.... Warning; Kamaal U know how I feel about Jew ppl so don't start with me bro! peace n <3
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| | Thursday, July 27, 2000 - 05:04 pm Mad, I have another useful treat for you: "It was Clinton, whom Israelis laud as their best friend ever to occupy the White House, who upon taking office appointed the head of the Washington Institute, Dr. Martin Indyk, to be the Director of Middle East Affairs at the National Security Council. Since Dr. Indyk, who is Jewish, was not a citizen of the United States, but rather was of Australian nationality, the citizenship process was speeded through so he could assume this post in time for the inauguration. As it turned out, Martin Indyk became a citizen of the United States of America a mere twelve days before taking office. And it is he who is responsible for formulating the doctrine of dual containment toward Iraq and Iran, with the more recent indirect additions of Libya and Sudan, and by extension, Islamist movements such as Hamas and the Islamist trend in general. Dual containment, although now coming under increasing criticism from the Europeans and from some of the non-Israeli sectors of the American foreign policy elite, remains official Clinton Administration Mideast policy." Call that love or faithfulness to the big brothers of isreal if you will. And btw, I don't care if I am a anti-semite or not because It has beeen the norms of the jews for the last half century to terrorize people with invented, devised, perpetrated words. People who are the true intellectuals of the world and have a sense of responsibilty to all mankind not the SUPPOSED CHOSEN FEW. Ah! I forgot to mention you are a gentile pig to the jews. One that can be done with anything they like. Not to mention that they slew your god on the cross and crusified according your own beliefs not mine. Pity.
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| | Thursday, July 27, 2000 - 05:59 pm > Mad says "But the American Congress don't need the Jewish vote to win most districts ". ""We've had fewer inquiries these days about Israel and the Jewish vote," says David Singer, director of research at the American Jewish Committee, who often tracks Jewish voting patterns. Singer says the overwhelming majority of office-seekers these days are not only pro-Israel, but competitively so. "In many cases the Israel issue tends to be a wash because usually each candidate is trying to be more enthusiastic than the next guy. Someone perceived to be actively hostile to Israel, such as Pat Buchanan, is a nonstarter."
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| | Friday, July 28, 2000 - 01:31 pm Bootan / Kamaal Again, you lump all of the jews into one group and then label them bloodsuckers. In US Today on Thursday there was an OPED piece written by a jew of all people who was defending the Palestinian position at the peace talks and went on in some detail about how the Palestinians have gotten a raw deal since 1948. In fact the Israeli population is split almost in half between religious fanatics who are convinced God gave them Israel and people who believe Palestinains shoulkd have equal rights within Israel. As I said before, the Palestians and Arabs are their own worst enemies. Their PR campaigns are designed to generate support for Israel. Every time they launch a war they get their asses kicked and loose more territory. They're not smart enough to see their own weaknesses. And some of their ´most infamous leaders are poster children for psychopaths(Saddam Hussein, Ayatollah Khomeini, etc.). In fact if you look what I have written I'M quite sympathetic to the Palestinian cause. Now about my interest in Somalia. I would say that living there for a year, personally fighting the SNA and loosing friends there gives lends qualifications for personal interest.
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| | Friday, July 28, 2000 - 06:22 pm Mad, Is there an Irish jew?. Read my lips man. Because this is more than a mere support for the jews on your part. You said: >went on in some detail about how the Palestinians have gotten a raw deal since 1948. At the end of world war I the turkish islamic Government was defeated in palastine by the brittish with the help of arab nationals who were promised kingdoms and the formation of new countries that they can call their own if they helped the french and the brittish colonialists. Afterwards, The brittish had his own plans in palastine to establish a Jewish Homeland for the jews around the world and here is the testimony of A jewish writer and what he had to say: <Meanwhile over in Great Britain during the ending years of World War 1, God was moving. Right there in the British Cabinet were men who had been brought up on the Bible and who were favourably disposed towards the concept of the formation of a Jewish homeland for the millions of Jews worldwide. One of them, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Arthur James Balfour was instrumental in promoting the Jewish cause and on November 2, 1917, Balfour issued a historic letter called the Balfour Declaration which pledges British support for the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine. The letter was presented to the head of the Zionist Federation in Great Britain, Lord Rothschild.> It continues down to say: <With the Balfour Declaration, more Jews were encouraged to return to their ancient homeland. From 1919-23, the third aliya took place. In 1920, the Haganah, the Jewish defense organization was founded. Britain was given the Mandate for Palestine in 1922 by the League of Nations. By a twist of events, the land east of the River Jordan which had earlier been marked out as land for the development of Jewish agriculture, was handed over to Abdullah, the grandfather of Jordan's present King Hussein and was named Transjordan by Winston Churchill. Churchill also promised eventual independence for this new territory of Transjordan (took place in 1946). Thus, Israel lost this piece of land, which had been the inheritance of the Reubenites, the Gadites and half the tribe of Manasseh.> http://www.patriarchywebsite.com/prophetic/birth-israel.htm You see mad?. You can't come and lie to us when we are able to read our own history as people even from a jewish source. Be my guest mad and know that you can't lecture people your own version of conspiracy theories. A palastinian muslim has everything to do with a somalian muslim. It is all religion that regulates who is a brother to whom. Ask a somalian gaal if you know if he feels that way to the palastine cause. He will side with the jews and christians. It is pure faith. The true brotherhood comes from belief and religion.
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| | Friday, July 28, 2000 - 08:27 pm I just read this in www.nytimes.com It is what I have been telling all along: <JERUSALEM, July 28 -- Acting to help shore up Prime Minister Ehud Barak's shaky political base, President Clinton went on Israeli television tonight promising concrete rewards for peace, hinting that he was ready to move the United States Embassy to Jerusalem.> < Interviewed for half an hour on Israeli television, Mr. Clinton himself introduced the issue of moving the embassy while answering a question about the relationship between United States and Israel, calling it "very strong."> <the president said: "You know, I have always wanted to move our embassy to West Jerusalem. We have a designated site there. I have not done so because I didn't want to do anything to undermine our ability to help broker a secure and fair and lasting peace for Israelis and for Palestinians. > Mad the whole America belongs to the jews pal. See how their pleasing is the cause of winning. <American support for Israel have also featured strongly in the Senate campaign of Mr. Clinton's wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, especially since she was accused of once making an anti-Semitic slur. Mrs. Clinton has declared that Jerusalem should be "the eternal and indivisible capital of Israel.> LOOK AT THE F_CKING ROBBERY MR CLINTON is doing to the American tax payers: <"There is some interest, interestingly enough on both sides, in also having a fund which compensates the Israelis who were made refugees by the war which occurred after the birth of Israel," he said. "Israel is full of people, Jewish people, who lived in predominantly Arab countries who came to Israel because they were made refugees in their own land. That's another piece of the good news that I think I can reveal that came out of the summit," he said. "The Palestinians thought those people should be eligible for compensation as well." > Another holocaust like scenario. Right?. The mighty clinton threatens The poor Yaser Arafat it looks like it is not enough that he sold 90% of the land already to them. <In response to a question, Mr. Clinton warned Yasir Arafat, the Palestinian leader, not to carry out his intention to unilaterally declare a Palestinian state by Sept. 13 even without a peace agreement. If that happens, the president said, "there will inevitably be consequences. Not just here, but throughout the world. And things will happen. I would review our entire relationship." >. Call that even-handed treatment Mad. What do you say about this open support and brotherhood to the jews by the clinton adminstration and those who are spoonfed the propaganda like you?.
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| | Saturday, July 29, 2000 - 02:26 pm Bootan Did I at any point defend the Clinton administration of all things? Did I say that I think the Israelis are in the right and the Palestinians in the wrong? Did I even infer that? Where the •••• did you get that from? What I said was that the Arabs in general and the Palestinians in particular have done a pathetic job handling public relations and selling their side of the story. For the longest time they openly supported armed psychopaths who killed woman and kids for sport. They also refused to acknowledge the right of Israel to exist long after it was a fait accomplis. This is, what we call in local parlance, stupid. The Israelis have managed to promote themselves from successfully as victims while the Arabs have been able to promote themselves as animals. I'm not saying they are. I'm saying that's have the image they've built for themselves. As for the issue of religion, what a bunch of bullshit. Let's take the case of Bosnia. The West in general, and esspecially the US, supported Bosnia for the longest time and is still accussed by the Serbs and Croats (Both Christians) of being pro-Bosniac (Muslim). The Muslims in Bosnia (I've spent plenty of time there) are very pro-American. Religion doesn't mean •••• to thinking people. If I have a good friend who is Muslim or worships rocks I'm going to stand by him rather than a good Christian who's not my friend (course I'm not a Christian, but that's another story).
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| | Saturday, July 29, 2000 - 03:27 pm Well mad, Allah knows your intentions but they don't look bad to me. I have issues though with some of your misguided suggestions. >What I said was that the Arabs in general and the Palestinians in particular have done a pathetic job handling public relations and selling their side of the story. The thing is, If you trully are sympathetic to arabs, How could you ignore the fact that all access to media is confined to the jews. No positive news ever shows on tv about Arabs and muslims in general. The only positive news about an arab is one who is pro-israel. Take that into consideration. American public opinion counts because it is their money and technology that the jews are after. > For the longest time they openly supported armed psychopaths who killed woman and kids for sport. You are going back and forth on the same rhetoric mad. Those people who commit the violence are desparate people who have no other option but lash out unreasonably. Tell me an ARAB country where people choose their leaders. People are taken to prison for simple expression of decent. No true religious practice is allowed. No political parties are accepted in anywhere in the arab world. It is disgusting to say the least that a pro democracy country such as America would support 100% a one ballot presidential candidate in syria for example. And praise it as someone people love. That is the kind of news people in this country are fed. Pure hypocricy and lies from no one else but the big brother of yours. It is a brith right that people should choose who they want not who wants to rule. >The West in general, and esspecially the US, supported Bosnia for the longest time and is still accussed by the Serbs and Croats (Both Christians) of being pro-Bosniac (Muslim). After when?. When thousands are massacred and muslims were barred to recieve any arms or support from islamic countries. I know you guys did the favour to muslims one reason. To avoid islamic resurgence in the west. It is containment policy pal. >If I have a good friend who is Muslim or worships rocks I'm going to stand by him rather than a good Christian who's not my friend (course I'm not a Christian, but that's another story). I consider you a a friend to somalis too. This is politics so don't get too emmotional. Deal with the truth.
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| | Sunday, July 30, 2000 - 04:47 am I think both of you guys need some productive hobby.(mad cow disease & bootman booted!)Y'all like aruguments and exchange of self delluded reuteurics that bares no currency.Instead of tackling foreign issues like the freaking jews and the arabs,why can't all begin your arguement limited to your household sorroundings,say...go debate how much money you going to spend on groceries,hygenics expences,entertainment,educations,and all the things vital to ones progressions.I think you should leave the irrelevant topics you discuss to the rightful owners and that my friends are the MEDIA.okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk! SAID MY PIECE...........AND BID YOU PIECE!AIGHT!LOL>>>>>>>>>>>>>!
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| | Unrecorded Date I dropped by quick to see what was happening in the village of somalinet. Surprise, Ayeeyo Social worker is suggesting we give the subject a rest. Okey, Ayeeyo, I am taking a nap.
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| | Unrecorded Date Mad Mac It is my undesrtanding that anybody who answers all these comments has to be lonely and certainly you are not gona get any followers by being wild. I myself had lived in baydhabo and I don't see the point of RRA "assualt" on Afgooye. What is this talk about jewish thing. Are you one those kids who were stolen from Baydhabo about eight years ago? Frankly we can understand one another rationally by simply stablishing some history.
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| | Sunday, July 30, 2000 - 11:09 pm I'm posting as annonymous to see if I can get this to post. This is MAD MAC. I'm having authentication errors again. Let me start with social worker. You remind me of something a friend of mine once told me. "My wife decides the little issues; which house to buy, when to get a new car, where we go on vacation. I decide the big issues, like peace in the Middle East, AIDs in Africa, Racial Trouble in America." Bootan Well, we appear closer than I at first thought. What I would call an effective PR campaign, you would call Jewish propaganda. What I would call acting like an animal, you would call lashing out in desperation. I suspect the truth is in between. Reference Bosnia, remember the US was always sympathetic with the Bosniacs and wanted to provide them weapons as early as 93. We did not because the Grench and British were strongly oppossed to that strategy and they were the two countries contibuting the most troops there on the ground at that time - something we were unwilling to do. Dural I am not lonely, I have a great woman who keeps me company and lots of friends. But I'm obsessed with Somalia. Sometimes, I'll admit, the conversation drifts. And I guess you missed it, but I'm an American, so I wasn't stolen from Baidoa. The logic for the Rahanweyn to seize Afgooye is to seize the bridges along the Webi Shebelli. If they control the bridges from Afgooye to Qooreyoley and can forge and alliance with the Abgal to control the bridges from Balad to Afgooye then the SNA would be effectively bottled up in Hamer.
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| | Monday, July 31, 2000 - 09:56 am bootmanlol thanx for the age speed wap time.star trek enterprise beam me up to the century wher ei become ayeeyo..lollolollol.. the rest of you:..Getting a life would be a splendid dish to have.have some deserts too,strawberry ice cream.
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| | Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 05:56 pm Anonymous! I am not writing history here, but what kind of American are you? why you are so obsessed with somalia? Look I have spent about 12 good years in Baydhabo and I know Rahanwayn they are good fighters.No question that the retarded boy of Aideed has done some bad things, but SNA has supporters from all over Habargidir camps and is gona be difficult to contain them. The next somali fight will be on political and regoinal organization. If what you saying is correct that you are obsessed with somalia then it is time to be entertianing some solutions here not advocating a new offensive where good many people will be killed. So take the spot bring some idea for solution, and please be specific.
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| | Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 11:21 pm MAD MAC HERE Durgal, actually I have some ideas for a solution to the Somali impasse. But I do think that a decisive defeat of the SNA would lend itself to the possibility of reconciliation between the Saab and the Soomal in Southern Somalia. Nevertheless, your assessment is spot on. The SNA have general support among the Haber Gedir and they are resilient. So a long lasting solutino should really include them as well. What I think has to happen is the following: a. A general agreement that establishes autonomy for taxation, police functions, courts, basic education as the purview of each region. Thus Mudug would have their courts, schools, etc., Bay would have theirs, and so on. This would allow maximum power at the regional level, making the issue of who's president less important. Then establish a parliament which vests the powers of taxation on the regions, is charged with foreign policy, establishment of a national currency and defense. That's all. The preseident presides over this body but is a non-voting member. Thus again, the president has little authority. Parlimentary representatives come from each region. You can only represent the region in which you were born or have acquired citizenship. Lastly, the estabilshment of an independent court. Court members would serve pre-determined terms (maybe five years or something) after which they could never again hold public office. Same for the preseident, once he finishes his term he may not be reelected or hold any public office again. Once a government with decentralized authority (the goal is to minimize the possilities for graft and abuse of power) is established Somalia must concentrate on economic development. Wind generated power from windmills donated by nations such as Germany are very promising because along Somalias huge coastline convection currents cause a constant, steady breeze. Somalia also must exploit its natural resources (chiefly oil). Revenues collected from such could be used to rebuild the infrastructure. The leasing of land for agricultural potential along the Shabelli and Juba rivers is also a possible revenue raiser for the Somali government. Keeping tax rates low is critical to stimulate economic growth, esspecially in the early going. The taking of IMF loans should be discouraged, but seeking grants from USAID and other organizations could be a way to prime the economic pump. Again corruption and graft must be punished harshly and swiftly, establishing the precedent that stealing by government officials will not be tolerated. That's why an independent court is so critical. there's my short version.
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