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Bariis

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who kill him

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mOwLiD-mAcAaMe

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That is not big deal, how many somali die daily for nothing!? U idoit get a une vie privee trou de cou.

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Xamardaye

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so what?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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NeefoowKaniini

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,,,,,XamarDaye la soo xiriir Nefoowkaniini@hotmail.com

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shangaani

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who caresssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

some people!

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Anonymous

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cali uraaye did.

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She

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Maskiiin! My his/her soul rest in peace

Bariis
Probably some Soomaali idiot did

Shingaani
I care cuz unlike U I am human.

Guys
Naxariistii Ibni-Aadam nimadaa idinka guurtey not to mention tii Islam nimada...

peace

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shangaani

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to she

who cares about some german guy when our own people are sufferring of hunger sis u better think about yar own people instead of some cristians,,,i don't give a damn if some whites go there to create corruptions in my country and then die what i would say to them is MAC sonkor!

anyway if ya smart enough i think dat is a good lesson for ya,,,,,comorande!??

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SISTA

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SO THE HELL WHAT? MILLIONS OF MULSIM CHILDREN DIE DAILY NEEDLESSLY........
ONE LESS KAFIR IN THE WORLD.........

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Keyse

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It seems that the sell outs in the SomaiNorth are mourinig the death of some dude from europe. How many sellout somalis in the north have died killing one an other because of the differences in their legendary moms(Habar diferences). First, i don't care if some white dude got killed in there- second, i equally don't care if these motherfuckers-The sell out isaaqs - Wipe each other out.

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MAD MAC

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Comrades
True enough there is a total lack of balance in the discussion. Somalis die by the hundreds from murder, disease and hunger and unless the number gets exceptionally high on a given day no one seems to care. That having been said:

"One less Kafir int he world?" Pathetic. From an Islamic standpoint Kafirs are the people who need the most help to see the light before they die. Hoping they die before they see the light is truly unislamic. Attitudes like Sista's give Muslims a bad rep.

Keyse. You should care. You should care about all of them.

When we stop caring about one of us it becomes pretty easy to stop caring about any of us. She is the only one who's written here with a lick of common sense.

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She

Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 07:05 pm
MadMac
Thanx a million! I couldn't have said it better.......

Shingaani
aboow I don't know how ur small brain works..... Just incase U didn't notice Muslims or non-Muslims are all human and I care about them equally ....................
What is with the enormous hatred bro?
Christianka maxey kaa haleeyeeen? Just cuz they choose to be Christian not Muslim? May god help ur sick heart n mind

Peace n <3 all

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Anonymous

Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 08:49 pm
Mad Mac:
So white boy it's time for you to teach our religion? Islam teaches us to spread the message but it also tells us to wipe from the earth all kafirs worshipping other than Allah. I pray Allah to wipe out all 'Gaalo' except those whom He has chosen to guide to islam. I would happily have America and Europe wiped out to liberate an inch of AlQudus(jerusalem) from Zionists/Americans.

SHE
So UR the one with the big brain that tells U Muslims and Kufars are the same. I ask Allah to guide U to islam. 'Caana boorihii frenjiga cudur baa ka danbeeyey'.

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Zakariya.

Thursday, June 15, 2000 - 12:20 am
Mad Mac is right in saying that a disbeliever is the most needy person of enlightenment about god and we shouldn't wish their death if we are muslims before they see the light. In fact that is why many muslims sacrificed their lives for. To free others from the corruption of superstition and the believe of the many gods. That is why Islam born in the desert of the middle east is practiced around the world without any huge barriers. Because of the sacrifice early muslims made for the cause of the enlightenment of others I hope will follow their steps and uphold the mission of spreading Islam with knowledge and wisdom untill we shall be able to enforce it fully become a united front again. I might sound extreme but the reality is, I have to love others for what I love my self and the first thing that comes prior to everything else is "There is no god worth worshipping except Allah and believe in his last messenger as well as other messengers before him".

I have a comment for SHE!

She said: @ Just incase U didn't notice Muslims or non-Muslims are all human and I care about them equally*. True! equal in human terms but FALSE in belief and brotherhood. There is separate bond between believers that are not shared with them by non believers. Allah said in the Quran @@49:10. The Believers are but a single Brotherhood: so make peace and reconciliation between your two (contending) brothers; and fear Allah, that you may receive Mercy.@@

Let me ask, is a muslim equal to you to nonmuslim apart from humanity? And if yes what is your proof?.

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Loverboy

Thursday, June 15, 2000 - 05:26 am
Zakariya dont be confused with the needy like a person who is a new convert to islam and a kuffar.

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MAD MAC

Thursday, June 15, 2000 - 06:07 am
Anonymous
I refuse to get into a religious debate with you here. I'm not carrying the flag of any religion nor do I intend to. I would just remind you that to kill in order to "liberate sacred gound" is a sin. To kill in order to convert is also a sin. To kill a man is no small thing and should never be taken lightly. When it is taken lightly we end up with what you see in Somalia today - where the taking of a life means nothing, where raping a woman means nothing. Killing people because they believe something different from you is wrong, no matter how you try and dresss it up. If you think that God will forgive men that have killed children and innocents who were "gaal" in order to further some abstract Islamic principal you'd better think again.

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Mad Dawg

Thursday, June 15, 2000 - 08:43 am
MadMac:

Bravo - Welldone

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MAD MAC

Thursday, June 15, 2000 - 10:15 am
Mahadsannid Mad Dawg

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gama'did

Thursday, June 15, 2000 - 10:18 am
Mad says: *I refuse to get into a religious debate with you here.*. You already did but don't know about it. * I'm not carrying the flag of any religion nor do I intend to.* I can't tell whether this is a faked innocence or an honest representation of your beliefs the latter being positive.

This is clear: *I would just remind you that to kill in order to "liberate sacred gound" is a
sin.* If your aim is to downplay the importance of the sacred mosques the first being JERUSALEM mosque, you are only a disbeliever who is spreading his hypocricy in the forumss. Yes, we will fight and liberate all lands that belong to muslims. We listen to no other voice but the Quran Our guide. Whom do you think you are talking to when you preach this fallacy right in our faces?. Everybody is not your HYPOCRITES who are double faced double tongued so called muslims, Who in any given moment take pleasure in smearing about islam and muslims. We know the traits OF ALL HYPOCRITES, Allah told us about them. They like what we hate and befriend our enemies while in the surface THEY SPORT ISLAMIC NAMES and argue to death they are muslims. Let those who are not SATISFIED WITH ISLAM declare their disbelieve and see IF WE CARE!. It would be better because we don't have to have conflicting emotions about them when they disguise themselves as muslims.

Mad said *To kill a man is no small thing and should never be taken lightly.*. This is true and has support from Islam. I have no dispute with that. *When it is taken lightly we end up with what you see in Somalia today.* True and Allah told us already the result of his disobidience and the outcome of not accepting islam as a guide even if the individual proclaims to be a fervent believer.

* where the taking of a life means nothing, where raping a woman means nothing*. I recommend you read the latest domestic report in the US about the rape of women and their abuse in the wake of a civilized country namely. One more favour to ask, READ NYTIMES.COM or cnn.com about the latest incident in which a broad daylight over 200 hundred guys tore off WOMEN'S CLOTHINGS IN NEW YORK PARK with some of them VIDEO TYPING the incident. And the police didn't want to get involved because they felt they were underappreciated after they were brought to trial FOR SHOOTING FORTY ONE TIMES an immigrant who didn't know HOW TO BEHAVE WHEN YOU ARE BLACK AND COPS ARE AROUND. The whole culture OF YOURS make people SICK TO DEATH and here you are taking ADVANTAGE OF OUR NICETY and abusing the integrity of a civilzed cyper society.

*Killing people because they believe something different from you is wrong*. you should tell this evangelists who preach on 700 club that it is okey to hasten the war between jews and muslims so that when millions of muslims are killed with few american nukes JESUS will come. This is How your brothers' psychology works. Thirsty for the blood of the muslims. If muslims made mistakes it is their tolerance of other religions which results in their demise all the time.

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She

Thursday, June 15, 2000 - 08:24 pm
Zakaria

Yes Muslim person is equal to non-Muslim person. After all they are Ibnu-Adam not Ibnu-Satan or Ibnu -alien according to Your Muslim religion all mankind are ibnu-Adan n Eve.......

Apart from that some so called Kufaars are way better humans than U and other Muslim isku sheeg.......My proof is U and I coz they helped Us when we needed help the most.......... If it was not for their kindness your poor Muslim Ass-remains would have been eaten by dog or Waraabe some where in Somalia..........
There is one other thing that makes us better than one another and that is I am grateful and U are not yet U have the guts to be Pruejedist ....and U are still considered human! See?

If that is not enough lets say who ever has power in this world we live in is better than the other persons that beg and asked Asylum after they destroyed their land cuz they are so dump poor and powerless...........

Dear Anonymous
I sugest U start with your self n Somali brothers and sisters b4 the kufaars if I am not mistaking u and them are the ones who really need to see the light of Islam.........Finish your dirty business in Somaalia......Then may your Alah help U show the Kufaars "the light"!
peace n <3 all

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analyzer

Thursday, June 15, 2000 - 09:42 pm
she, what's up with your name? why SHE? why emphasize on the faminine so much? were you really a HE before? if not, who is SHE? oh... SHE is a " hooker" somebody loudly said..i said SHE is not!!...then, someone else said yes SHE is a "hooker!!" in washington, DC...then i said...get outta here...
the mad one,
what's up? i am fine too...go on .....you have set your mind about most issues...you have the pros and cons of the many topics you frequently jump in, so what's your intention? well, of course, to persuade or confuse or may be you have no agenda at all...just browsing and wanna get a kick out of these other bored cypergoons...hmm..ok then....talk...but remember i will get a job in the somali secret service when things go back to normal and wanna specialize investigating suspicious people like you....i am a patriot, love somalia dearly and would protect against all enemies overt or disguised like you...
to complicate things more, i have a multiple personalities too...just like you...so, what do you think dog....?

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MAD MAC

Friday, June 16, 2000 - 12:21 am
Gama'did
How 'bout a compromise on Jerusalum? After all, the Israelis consider it sacred too. Personally, I don't give a •••• - I consider it just another city anda crappy one at that. I ain't ever gonna live there. But if you guys want to kill each other over the hole - be my guest. Just leave me out of it.

Now we can't compare America with Somalia. The level of per capita violence is simply incomparable and you know it. Is there a problem with how are police relate to the black and hispanic populations? Yep. But both sides are to blame. Before that Haitian guy got killed the last 16 of 19 cops who were killed were killed by minorites. That in a city which is only 25% minority. When cops confront minorities they know the risk factors go up exponentially.

As for the 700 club et al, do you really think I'm going to defend those freaks? Come on. I'm not some sort of religious nut here.

OK, analyzer yes I can be as opinionated as the next guy. The LAST THING SOMALIA NEEDS is another Secret Service. Jesus Christ I'd thought you motherfuckers would have learned from the last time. You start with looking for enemies and pretty soon everyone who disagrees witht he president is an enemy. Damn.

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She

Friday, June 16, 2000 - 04:12 pm
Dear Analyzer!
Great to see U too darling bro!
Now go and play out side....

Mad Dowg = analyzer ? !

peace n <3 all

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shangaani

Friday, June 16, 2000 - 11:42 pm
to she

after al this pple answered for you i don't wanna waste ma breath with u ,anyway u said u cared more for cristians rather than yar own muslim brothers i think u r the one with small retarded brain and for one thing i don't wanna argui wiht ya after all u r a girl,,,,,,,,peace

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analyzer

Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 12:32 am
she,
i'd play outside but what if there is drive-by.....do you really wanna gangbang on me that bad...
the mad dog,
the next secret service will be alot different than the one before......it will only excute the duties lawfully and rightously.... there won't be any immigrant shooting or infringing any man's integrity whatsoever...no profiling as well unless you are western and always interfere the noble politics in our society...or the word MAD is part of your name or anyone who lived in sarajevo military camp for that matter..

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coolman.

Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 01:58 pm
Another question for SHE, since you declared that to you muslims and christians(Gaalo) are alike would you get married to a christian?. The answer will determine what you really profess as a religion. It will save us your constant argument and degradation of our society, your lies and hypocritic comments about us, and above all.. your plain disgust with islam..It shows right in your anger and the way you get your points across by insulting millions of muslims, generilizing them as thiefs, killers, hunger ridden poor people etc ..etc.. Just answer that one question with honesty if you have a grain of it in your heart..and the case is settled. I have seen too many impostors in the forumss.... and read their disbelieving comments about islam and its sanctity.. In the end though.. those people showed their true colour and religion and I hope you do the same for us and stop pretending muslima when you could be anything but a muslima.. Allah is telling all those who believe in him that a believer in him is not equal to a disbeliever in him... And here you are pretending a real muslim by arguing that all are equal citing as a proof.. all humans are from adam.. who doesn't know that?... The real issue is A mu'min the same as Kafir?... You are disgrace and one who is in deep doubt about islam... YOU CITE ALL THE TIME "these people welcomed us "... Well, There is no free lunch in america.. Perhaps what they wanted the least is someone like you whose intelligence and faith equals HIS/HER stomach.. Whoever fills it... Is GOD. For the belivers.. Allah is the ultimate decider not the one who hands them a loaf of bread or somewhere to sleep.. Afterall.. Allah provides all the resources we need.. He is the sustainer of the Universe..We muslims look to Allah for decisions and beliefs.. we don't just say as you did.. whatever we want about him.. You lied too much.. I didn't wanna get involved.. You are a traitor to somalis.. And you would fair better if you don't visit their duellings and meeting places if your intention is to talk like this all the time... You don't like them and their religion.. why bother then I wonder...

<33.36 It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path.>


I hate the devils advocates.. who proffess our religion as they say and are not clear where they truly belong...<they are neither there nor here>

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She

Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 03:53 pm
Shingaani
Ya super freak,
I could careless what Religion one has as long as they are not being unfair or snobbish......Who cares if they worship their Xaar...

When I say Muslim is ku sheeg it means Fake Muslim like U and other freaks with no heart and brain.........

Now If U think I like Christians better than Muslims U are wrong me brotha........Cuz I know nothing about Christianity and I do not want to find out either.........At least not now and
to tell U the truth I am not ready to pick a team yet, Muslim or non Muslim when the time is right I will try to pick a team and ply......

Surely I will not follow a team *religion* that tells me I am better than the others or some one else is better than moi.........


Now I don't know much about Muslim religion all I hear and see is rude and crude sh*t heads like U who makes me think Islam is spooky Religion....

For E.g. U saying I don't want to argue with U cause U are Female...................
Don't go there aboow I am very sensative about that isue okeey? Male =100 Female = 50 F*** tht sh**-------------> or else I'll make U bend down<-----pardon moi for misbahaving!


Jaale Analyzer,

Oh brotha! do ya mean drive by Shooting or F***ing ???
If "F" Me do know nothing about that ::: but lucky you............. if ya don't like that
why don't U go n play in Somaalia then??????

Dang! There is Drive by shooting Mooriyaan Only they are not White or Gaalo they are our fellow Muslim + black = Somaali OUCH!!!! That hurts.....

Hey I have better idea lets blame Mad Mac and his relatives "all gaalo" for twisting our Mooriyaan brothers brain and turning them in to Killers = worst than Gaalo......

I wonder how did they succeed in doing that "them Gaalo" I think it is the drugs/ Qaad does that grow in western countries horta? DING! DONG!

peace n <3 all

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She

Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 04:14 pm
Coolman
I will most definitely marry Gaal = free thinker, Jew, Christian, Buddhist etc etc or a Muslim as long as he has a good heart and big brain, thinks-Not like you + if we love each other why not?????????????????

Guess what????? I will still be Somaali and your grandma and all your family + tribe will still line up to kiss my hand..............Cuz in order to get close to God U have to do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why? Go ask your Ayeeyo or Awooowe if U not smart enough to figure out---> Eat my Xaar u freak.............

peace n <3 all

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coolman.

Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 04:43 pm
SHE said< I could careless what Religion one has as long as they are not being unfair or snobbish......Who cares if they worship their Xaar...>.

A muslim has to care what one believs to establish the appropriate relationship with that one person... Islam is not and idea born out of one's desires and sick views of life.. It is a devine revelation by the god of the worlds.. Whoever believes in him.. and lives accordingly is a righteous person..

<2.256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects Taghut (evil) and believes in Allah had grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things. >..

SHE said <When I say Muslim is ku sheeg it means Fake Muslim like U and other freaks with no heart and brain.........>..

How can SHE differentiate a fake muslim and a true muslim WHEN in the same spot SHE admits <Now I don't know much about Muslim religion all I hear and see is rude and crude sh*t heads like U who makes me think Islam is spooky Religion...>

Look at that comment closely.. Apart from the profanity which is the sign of the HYPOCRITES and disbelievers.. SHE declares her accute shortage of islamic knowledge.. And yet at the same time wants to insert herslef as the protector of some mythic rights that WE somalis are taking from MAD MAC.. I am glad though.. whoever would be dissappointed in SHE as he would, seeing a somali girl talking like this, to hold on to his grievance.. for SHE is nothing but all that.. Somali women would avoid being... Walk through the forumss.. and check out if any girl speaks like these about islam and somalis?.. We have seen men.. But not a single woman yet.. I don't know why..Somali women are more sincere naturally than US somali men for a fact.. But not this dissappointing SHE.

SHE said <Don't go there aboow I am very sensative about that isue okeey? Male =100 Female = 50 F*** tht sh**-------------> or else I'll make U bend
down<-----pardon moi for misbahaving!>.

Wow! it seems.. a posting after posting SHE is coming out the dark.. slowly getting her real feelings of Islam to us.. I don't know who SHE fooled before.. Obviously not not many... If SHE is dissatisfied with Islam.. The door Is wide Open for anybody to walk out of Islam... It was never compulsory to stick one's nose into soemthing HE despises so much and call it all the time < F*** tht sh**------------->>. The mistake a lot of hypocrites make is.. They act as if Islam is forced on them.. Hey guys hypocrites.. You are in a free world.. If you could get a better religion that makes sense to people other than Islam.. Go for it.. And see who cries after you....As for Us somali muslims and other islamic nations we say..

<6.19 Say: "What thing is most weighty in evidence?" Say: "Allah is witness between me and you; This Qurán had been revealed to me by inspiration, that I may warn you and all whom it reaches. Can you possibly bear witness that besides Allah there are other gods?" Say: "Nay! I cannot bear witness!" Say: "But in truth He is the One God, and I truly am innocent of (your blasphemy of) joining others with Him.>

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coolman.

Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 11:16 pm
I am glad .. now SHE came out of the dark and no more can SHE hiDe behind a veil of hypocricy.. Abusing Islam and muslims... Like your predeccesors did in the forumss... Pretending to be muslim somalis.. I knew from the start the way you fumed your anger at people talking to Mad.. that you were not a normal decent defender... But a sick woman.. whose wound inflamed by the brothers... If you are so civilized why glue yourself to us and beg for attention in the forumss.. rubbing your ignorance on our face...If we are that despised race according to you and your Mad?. Don't you think that people who are lower in class than you are (a whole moriyan nation) should not be associated with..?. Or is there something else you want from us?..< Anigaa.. soomalida waa jeclahay aboow>.. That was funny, looking back at it.. damn it.. How long can one hide his true colour in this scrutinized environment?... Not long.. You have your matches in the forumss.. rest assured.. you are not alone in your chemoflash of ... nice somali and then do your dirty works..tartiib tartiib...Untill all is known without much pretence.. As for muslim somali women who are practicing their faith, they don't get married to just anybody except someone like them.. a believer in god ..they don't look tranquility in someone disturbed.. uneasy with himslef and with god.. Someone whose intelligence is equated after denial of his creator that of a donkey or a mule..<62.5 The similitude of those who were entrusted with the (obligations of) Taurát (Mosaic Law), but who subsequently failed in those (obligations), is that of a donkey which carries huge tomes (but understands them not). Evil is the similitude of people who falsify the Signs of Allah: and Allah guides not people who do wrong.>.

<All people are equal> <muslims are same as nonmuslims> is the prerequisite and forwarding SICK people use to fight islam and its blessing.. A disbeliever is not equal to a believer.. It is written in all books of religion let alone in Islam...<11.24 These two kinds (of men) may be compared to the blind and deaf, and those who can see and hear well. Are they equal when compared? Will you not then take heed? >..

<39.9 Is one who worships devoutly during the hour of the night prostrating himself or standing (in adoration), who takes heed of the Hereafter, and who places his hope in the Mercy of his Lord - (like one who does not)? Say: "Are those equal, those who know and those who do not know? It is those who are endued with understanding that receive admonition. >.

I know few lectures about how woman allegedly are abused in islamic countries turns the ignorant somali woman into a disbelieving brat and then act that she knows it all.. It is disgrace that your stomach and greed overrode your sense of intelligence and understanding... or else you were brought up in these countries without the guardianship of a religious parents.. Or you are brain washed to a point where you are debating you can get married to anybody.. don't make young muslim somali women sick like you and take a hike.. Wax adiga kaa daranna waa soo socdaan...

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She

Sunday, June 18, 2000 - 11:38 am
Coolman = Sheeq Hebeloow Z***l ximaar!
You said "The door Is wide Open for anybody to walk out of Islam..."
Yeah right! The door is wide open so do your A** and here comes my badiil + the CN Tower = up in your A**.... Who are u kidding ???????

"The door Is wide Open for anybody to walk out of Islam..." I wonder why u said that!!!
I thought that in Islam rule "murtad" penalty is to be killed Which I am very sensitive about..

I think they should leave it to Allah let him take care of it....
I don't like ppl playing God and taking the matters in to their own hands in My planet I call them killers.....

So please don't contradict your self In addition, I would like to advise you to think twice before you post your nonsense comments.....

Now if U were Real Islam If U really really believe in God n Islam like true Muslims this would have been your conclusion........

A) May Allah (S W T) show U the light of Islam...

b) U would have acknowledge that God created me this way, that is Gods will he wants me to go to hell Yada yada..........

C)Better he sent Good Muslim girl in to this earth and then he sent Satan/devil/jin/cirfiid to steal my soul and turn me in to little devil ..Of course, that is Allah's will too...

Fiiro Gaar ah;I am not blaming anyone for my actions............

Do me a favor go take ur preaching to Somaalia I am sure our Mooriyaan brothers will benefit from it...I am harmless.

'M telling Ya, just cause I said may his soul rest in peace! The poor Gaal that got killed...
I have to go truogh this hell. Damn. U guys must be very sick and U telling me U are better person and calling me names....I wonder who is going to be in heaven or hell first .Lol I like it keep going U sickooooooooooo.....

Now do not start assuming things sh** hole, I didn't call all Somalis Moriyaan.........U know and I know who moriyaan is if U don't know Ask Analyzer Or check my previous posting...

You have two choices either stop harrasing me for having different idea than yours or I am gona have to kick your freaking bony Ass all the way to were u come from......lol naah just kidding don't wana break your bony a** Just stop hating ppl will ya it is not healthy ok!

peace n <3

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NeefoowKaniini

Monday, June 19, 2000 - 01:55 am
,,,,,,Wa bilaahi Towfiiq inaad ku dhameysey ahayd SHE haddii kale wallee in berrito Qoorta lagaa jarri oo Maxkamaddii Sheekhunaa Sheikh Hebelna ay ku sugeyso oo halakan Guryo rag leeyahay Maxkamad ka dhigtay lana soo taagan " WAMAN LAM YAXKUM BIMAA ANZALA LAAH FA'ULAAIKA HUMUL DAALIMUUN,,,KAAFIRUUN,,""" Oo masaakiintii jareerta ahayd iyo Looma Ooyaanka kolkii ay u fali waayeen beerihii Mukhaadaraadka Gacmaha ka wada guray oo yiri waxbey xadeen,,Oo gabdhihii Masaakiinta ahaa oo meel ay u ciirsadaan waayay yiri waa ay dhileysaneysoo dhagax ku qudh gooyay, Waar heedhe meeyay Mooryaantii konton kontonka u kufsanaysay,,, Maskiinkii u gurmadayna ee Carri Waaq iyo carro fog oga yimmi si uu Caruurtooda Caana booraha u siiyaana ay leeyihiin waa Gaal oo Golxadda waa in looga soo jaraa,,, Ummaddan galabatay She yeey ha ku daalin ,,,,eee aanu niraaho Hebeloow Caqli baa kaa maqan ee maskax daada adeegso oo Ummaddaana faraha ka qaad ee aad kol waliba u soo dhar baddalanayso,,,,,.....

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somalibrother.

Monday, June 19, 2000 - 10:19 am
coolman.

waxaan kaa codsanaayaa inad u jawaabin ninkan neefoowkaniini isku magacaabey. haduu sharaf leeyahay oo soomaalinimo iyo islaannimo aamminsan yahay wuxuu la hadli lahaa gaalka frenjiga ah ee halkan ku ceytama mar walba, ee muusan iska soo xaadiriyen meesha isagoo aqrista mar walba markii aad u jawaabtey kuwan.

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mudaneh

Monday, June 19, 2000 - 08:43 pm
somalibrother,

Adiga maxaad ugu jawaabiweeysay,maxaad u fareeysaa in ruux kaleh uu ugu jawaabo gaalka,
adiga miyeeysan shaqsi ahaan mas'uuliyad kaa saarneen in reerkaada aad difaacdo?
qof aan is magacaabin miyaa jiro?yaase xaq kuu siiyay in aad farto dadka inaad tiraahdo hala hadlin ina fulaan?
xir afkaada weyn inta aanan buunsho ka buuxinin.

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coolman.

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 04:46 am
let me start with <somalibrother>,

brother, thanks for the advice..may be neefoow doesn't care..or have different opinions..as to how far one can insult somalis and their beliefs..it is all pure personal knowledge and feelings.. I have nothing against neefoow..It is up to him...to either join the gangs on the opposite site.. or be a refree with honesty and not onesided angry man...I appreciate your sense.. I appreciate your advice..


SHE.

Now you talking...<Coolman = Sheeq Hebeloow Z***l ximaar! >..sister, I am no sheeq horta.. because I learnt a little about islam in here..in the USA.. after I was harrassed and bombarded with questions I couldn't...answer... I was your typical somali muslim boy...thinking my name would cover..if questions were asked about my faith...I was in deep trouble..several times..where I suspected islam...but thanks to Allah I was saved..I even learnt about the bible..if not fully..

<"The door Is wide Open for anybody to walk out of Islam..." I wonder why u said that!!!> I said that..because.. from your first posting..up to the last one..you repeat..you have issues with this.. issues with that..it never stops..so I wondered why..does she even bother..things SHE would have issues with...there are many religions..you can add to..throw away something from them..as you like..and get the blessing of their leaders for doing that..so why not join those groups.. and save yourself from the pain of islam...?. I am muslim..and I have issues..don't go into one basket. Islam means submission to Allah.. after you agree that he is THE ONE.. the proplem with some people.. is they tend to think islam is inheritance...like I did once.. it is learning.. agreeing with... giving respect to Allah.. his messneger.. believers in him...

<I thought that in Islam rule "murtad" penalty is to be killed Which I am very sensitive about..>

You see SHE... this is why I suggested to you.. to forget about the whole issue.. if you can get remedy from it..it is one's own sake to believe in allah fully..Allah doesn't benefit from our being servants to him...we benefit from his worship.. not vise versa... we don't ask Allah questions.. we follow his orders as much as we can..<2.108 Would you question your Messenger as Moses was questioned of old? but whoever changes from Faith to Unbelief, Has strayed without doubt from the even way.>..

<'M telling Ya, just cause I said may his soul rest in peace! The poor Gaal that got killed...
I have to go truogh this hell. >

LESSON ONE FOR YOU TODAY.

Just for your own benefit... prophet noah scw.. who was the messenger of Allah was told not to pray for his son when.. his son chose disbelieve over believe.. WHEN all Noah and his followers went on the boat...to be save from the water, this is what noah said..

<11.45 And Noah called upon his Lord, and said: "O my Lord! surely my son is of my family! and your promise is true, and you are the justest of Judges!">

<46. He said: "O Noah! He is not of your family: for his conduct is unrighteous. So ask not of Me that of which you have no knowledge! I give you counsel, lest you become one of the ignorants!>

47. Noah said: "O my Lord! I do seek refuge with you, from asking you for that of which I have no knowledge. And unless you forgive me and have Mercy on me, I should indeed be among the losers>

SHE, you see how noah was told not to pray for his own son.. his flesh and blood.. Noah had a fatherly feeling.. he wanted his son to be save despite his disbelieve in Allah.. but was told no.. In that case.. you(SHE).. the poor somali girl..can't pray for some disbeliever in Allah.. since the more deserving people were not allowed to pray for them...

<You have two choices either stop harrasing me for having different idea than yours>

I will stop harrassing.. as long as what we have.. is a difference in opinion not a difference in religion.. Islam is one.. its teachings are one.. I can't let you twist it according to your zero take on it.. As long as you are claiming muslim.. I will be oblidged to correct you if you are wrong.. as others will correct me if I am wrong.. I am no angel myself.

<lol naah just kidding don't wana break your bony a** Just stop hating ppl will ya it is not healthy ok!>

I don't hate you, you assumed I hate you.. I was honest when I answered to you.. Had I not cared about your mistakes.. I would keep quite about.. and you would never have known what you did.. or said.. was off the mark.. again I love you as a somali woman.. but have issues with you.. that is all.. END OF THE GAME.. go learn Islam if YOU CARE..

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mudaneh

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 05:52 am
She:
waxaan filayaa in taasi darsi wayn ay kuu noqon doonto,diinta waa mid ilaah soo dejiyay,una soo dejiyay CABUUDIISA,qofba heer ayuu ka gaaray aanba iraahdo qaarbaa iyagoo muslim ah haddaneeh diinta aan waxba ka aqoonin,hala barto ayuu yiri ilaah,aaraah is dhaafsashada iyo diin(allah) wax ka sheegidiis ama soo qaadashadeed waa mid loo baahan yahay oo haddii aan la doodin oo sida loo kala cilmi badan yahay aan wax la isugu sheegin waxba laga ma barteen diinta,hadalki oo kooban
MISS;SHE,waxaad moodaa in si si aad u deg degeeysid ee bal yara fariiso oo is qabooji,diintana bal meesha aad ka joogto si aad uga sii socoto wax korodhso,yeeysan Jaamicad dhigashada been kuu sheegin,diintuba waa cilmi la barto,qofkastoo jaamicad nooc kasta ah dhigtana haddii uu ku baranayo diinta,wuxuba hal jaamicad ayeey ahaan lahaayeen,aniguna waxaad iga soo qaadaa in aan ahay nin aan jecleeysanin sidi aad u hadashay,adigaaba nasiib leh oo qof wax kuu sheego helay,isagoon ku caaynin waxaana aamin sanahay in adigu aad caay tami lahayd.


XAQSOORE

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mudaneh

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 07:00 am
,,Some times I do think that I am a secessionist, Nope I am not ,,,Sometimes they told me Ilove to divide and rule, Ney I dont,,They told me I do hate Goverments Coz of that Dead Octogenarian Wacdalla Qabe Siyaad Afbilaar ,,MAYBE may not oon Xoogsade isku fikrad ka ahaan karnaa!!!!ah ah ah ,,,,,I hate Authorities, crooked Goverments,,Goverment,,,What i do like most is a principle of theory of life and conduct under which society is conceived without government - harmony in such a society being obtained, not by submission to law, or by obedience to any authority, but by free agreements concluded between various groups, territorial and professional, freely constituted for the sake of production and consumption, as also for the satisfaction of the infinite variety of the needs and aspirations of a civilized being, In a society developed on these lines, the voluntary associations which already now begin to cover all fields of human activity would take a still greater extension so as to substitute themselves for the state of its functions.


Walaalkiin
Mudaneh

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NeefoowKaniini

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 07:02 am
,,,,Casharkayagii Tafsiirka Quraanka intaasi ayuu inagaga dhan yahay !!!!!


Wa Bilaahi Towfiiq
Ciyaal Towfiiq

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She

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 08:38 am
Mudane Neefoow-Kaniini,
Amen, Amiin, Amiin..
I love your thinking aboow!

Jaale Coolman,

U care nobody but your self. For once n all, I don't belong to a no TEAM.

One day I will pick a team if my small head allows me, 4now my Religion is called HOOYO....

The rest is history, Between me and Allah...Now get the hell out of the way, U blocking my view.....

Mudaneh
Yada... yada.... blah!!! Take your preaching else where..... Mudaneh + Coolman
M.E.
N.O.
I.N.T.R.E.S.T.E.D. your qashin take it to the nearest dumpster or ship it to Soomaaliya. I am sure U will get alot of suport there..

If one dosn't agree with ya,U can chop his/her head of nice, eeh?

I for one do not like to take advise from Mooriyaan =sick sheik = Kutaab-gaabloow = sixiroole = ungreatful,insensitive low life creatures okay..... Now go home or f**k of!

Wa bilaahi towfiiq---> to all --->
including the dead Gaal---> If U dont like it, may the little black Devil in your head keep U in hell and out of the light 4ever----->

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mudaneh

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 08:56 am
She,
waxaa la yiri naagaha marka ay normal ka yihiin,
cudur waxa ay qabto kama soo baxo oo laga ma dareemo oo laga ma arko inta badan haddii uu san ahayn cudur wayn,laakiin marka la darsado oo ay caloosha ka sare marto oo ilaah kala keeno waxaa la yiri wixi jiro ah oo ku jiro jirkeeda way soo baxaan,marka adiga in aadan bad qabin waa wax lahubo waxaase ku dhib qabo qofki ku saarto oo dhalidaada sugo,hadal oo dhan caay baad ka baratay naag ka fariiso bulshada,haddi kaleh waad heli doqon kula caay tanto.animale quadratto.

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Kamaal

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 10:03 am
She,

She,
You make sense to me honey, it seem that those who oppose you they luck the exact objectives of religion, by exterminating none Muslim you are not pleasing God. Mudaneh and his fellow i don't think God will be happy if you send all non-Muslim to the cemetry.

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NeefoowKaniini

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 10:31 am
,,,,,,Nimanyahoow Ninkaan Garka weyn ee la isku Xuuxinaayo maad inagaba deysaan Waa Ilma Towfiiqe,, Nabad se maan u dadaaloow caqli isu biirinno mise waa Adduun waxba inoogama jirro oo waa iska mataacal guruur oo halkii loo badnaa iyo halkii baa loo wada tafa xeytay oo kii magaciisaba G****L uu ka biloowdaba haba ahaada kii ina gargaara ee mugdiga inaga saarayay waa inaan golxod iyo Seeftayada aanu galalka kala baxnaa oo cardaadiqadaa ka dhignaa,, Yeynaga daandaansi badan oo inaga baqo iyo cagta Wareey badan,,,Munazamatal Jihaad Bituuc Sheikhal Calaama Sheikh Cumar Cabdiraxmaan iyo Banbaanadii Islaamka Seyful laahil Masluula baanu ballan alle ku galay School halkeer ah oo Kindergarten ahi inaanu ku soo rakibno oo Ilaahayna hadhow inaga Sawaab mariyo Jannadiisii Fardowsa iyo Hablihii Xuural Ceyn oo anigu ilaa boqolaal ilaa la isiiyo kuwa ii adeega kuwa farta aan ugu yeero iyo kuwa wallee yaa kolkaan doonana aan 911 Aakhiro aan ugu yeero inlee halkan bey kaxdi alla ahayd ii keeneene,,..Police-kii Aakhiro oo kuwanni ka xoog waaweyn ee ku shubaan meeshii iyada ahayd,,...


,,,,,,,Ma wad wadi karee Walalaadiin

Ilma Towfiiqoow
khayr alle isku ogin
Fardowsanna inoo ballan

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coolman.

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 02:08 pm
Kamaal says <She, You make sense to me honey,>.. brother kamaal.. why not tell us the sense SHE makes..if there is one...

Kamaal says <it seem that those who oppose you they luck the exact objectives of religion,>... hola hola again!.. this is the kind of man we need.. a man who knows exactly what is the objective of islam... So why not tell my mistakes.. our mistakes... I am here to learn... I will not sure insult you.. and don't care who you are..don't keep the knowledge to yourself.. share.. my brother...

<by exterminating none Muslim you are not pleasing God.>.. can you quote a single sentence of mine that says exactly like that?... If not.. I can understand where you are coming from... no need for fruitless debates.. Just quote me from the above postings of mine I said so.. That will be enough...

<Mudaneh and his fellow i don't think God will be happy if you send all non-Muslim to the cemetry>. Again quote me saying so.. lies are not neccessary to get your points across..with evidence.. you can prove one's mistakes...if not.. there is something fishy... xanuunka hadda ku haayo goormuu ku heley?. markii beenta la aqrinaayey waad aamusneede?... One by one, come out of the alley ways.. you will only prove your anger..your dormant mistrust of islam... and your weak knowledge of the blessed revelation...a muslim's defence should not include lies..profanity or any immoral jastifications... If you guys can prove something wrong... this is the place you can do it.. behind your screens.. and anonimity.. you can do it..so kamaal.. why not tell us the objective of islam... Count your issues like SHE did.. Proplems you have with islam and call them.. Objective if you like.. That is the only thing SHE did.. claiming issues like disbelievers do.. unlike muslims who take and belive Allah's words.. without arguments..unlike those muslims who read the Quran and read ...

<3.164 Allah did confer a great favor on the believers when He sent among them a messenger from among themselves, rehearsing unto them the Signs of Allah, sanctifying them, and instructing them in Scripture and Wisdom, while, before that, they had been in manifest error.>

You can all unite guys.. and tell your stories of..alleged wrongs.. and mythic islam.. that is.. not written in the Quran...and see if that washes with us...take care.. and do what you do best.. insult and fabricate lies...

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Xoogsade

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 07:12 pm
Coolman nin rag ka tegey baad tahee dadkan dheg haw dhigin giddigood waa midabka geela. Halkaa adeer quraanka noogu dhig, looxxiina waakanoo soo qaadanaye, ustaad weyn baad tahaye gaalkan bakhtiyay sheekadiisa inaga daayoo, kollay, la dil gartiisana la sii baan u malaynayaaye:

Sayidkii haddaan midho ka soo xado waxaan idhi:

Coolman cilmiga diinta buu caarif ku ahaaye
Nin cibaara badan lagu shuboo caalimaad tahaye
Caqligu kaama suulee wadaad caaddilaad tahaye
Cawo iyo ayaan baannu ku helay cuurka aad tahaye
Illaah haku caawimo ducaan kuu cawilaynaaye

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mudaneh

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 08:45 pm
Kamaal,!!!!!!!!!!!
diin baad ka hadleeysaa been neh waad iga sheegeeysa,ha is raacinin,haddii doodi ay kugu jirto waxa aad heeyso dibeda la kaalay,abaayo iyo aboowe diintu ma laha iyo durbaan la isu tumo,
gaal baqtiyay in aad umada muslimka ahna aad ku aflagaadeeyso diintu ma qabtaa???
alaahumaa nas a luka cafwu.

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MAD MAC

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 09:59 pm
Cool
I never insulted Islam or Somalis. Some Muslims took coments I made for insults - but only those who pperceive a different point of view as an insult. I may be gaal, but I am not oppossed to Islam or Muslims. If I were I would not socialize with so many of them.

I think it is too bad that Islam has labeled people into categories (believers, unbelievers) and declared one group to be superior to the other. I understand why Moslems believe what they do - Islam proscribes that Moslems should limit their social and intimate contacts to other Moslems. Furthermore, since Islam is a way of life with a series of laws, it is inevitable that it will conflict with cultures that are different. Of course, different individuals practice the faith to varying degrees - but I would think a true Muslim would find it difficult to live in a country where the LAWs of the land conflicted with the laws of Islam. I vaguely wonder about that, but not much.

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mohamed ibrahim

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 11:10 pm
As usual someone starts a topic and as it goes on, it derives from the gist of the topic to a showdown between two radical individuals. I think its time we must all have a sense of what necessarily follows from a given statement as distinguished from what a statement merely suggests without proof. We must be very careful here to avoid being influenced by our own personal opinions. Obviously, it's wrong to kill. But on the other hand, murdering, raping and robbing are situations that cannot be controlled in Somali for the time being. Nevertheless, those of you who advocate for all Christians to be killed, you must accept the fact that "seeftii cumar-qadaab ayaa dhameyn weysey" let alone today that they are so powerful that decide what you eat, where you sleep, what you learn, what you watch and so on…! I see more people making emotional decisions rather than rational. The laws of nature are made in a such away that whatever you get as a advantage you must sacrifice another as a replacement, thus comparing the pros and cons we Somalis particularly received from Christian and Muslim nations, we apparently gained more from Christian nations than Muslims. For example, Saudi Arabia since the last 10 years have been expelling Somalis from the Holy Land to extremely dangerous war-zone Somalia, while on the other hand, Canada (as a Christian nation) had welcomed with open hands more than 100,000 Somalis. So someone with normal common sense can obviously see where he/she belongs when in need of real help. In contrary, I see only minor disadvantages of Somalis in Canada for instance or western nations as a whole: 911 and few Somali girls falling for more foreigners and of course everyone has a taste and everyone has different family, traditional, cultural and religion background. We cannot all see things from the same window. Finally, no killings should take place without reasonable motive.

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Jeeni

Wednesday, June 21, 2000 - 03:52 am
Ilike to ask all somalian edicaters wy you are notd discases by yours, awn langue,somali languege. did you forget soon. i woried that and i am so sorry. soomaaliyeey toosoo toosoo isku tiir sadayee hadba kiina taag daran taageera waligiin. war faafiya afkiina hooyo ooku faana intaad afkale faafinaysaan, caruurihiinana bara haddii kale wallaahay baan kudhaartee waa la idiin kala turjumi, idinka iyo caruur tiina.

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mudaneh

Wednesday, June 21, 2000 - 06:37 am
Jeeni,

somali baa nala yiraahdaa halki aan joogno ayaan ku dhalanay,kuna noolaaneeynaa,kuna dhimaneeynaa,
ma inagaaba og in aan somali nahay.

waa maxay caruurta aad sheegeeyso,uma joogno somali haddii aan nahay qurbo caruurta derteed ee mas la xadeeyna gaar ah ayaan u joonaa,wixi yaraanta inagu dhaafay ayaan cantuug saneeynaa maanta,shalay diif baa inaga socday maantana jeejo,dahab la xirto,sanka iyo xudunta oo la durto,adoon la isu ekeeysiiyo iyo waxyaabo kaleh oo badan ayaan heesanaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
qaar baa moodayo in aan marnaba lagu noqoneeynin wadanki.
waan ku kacsanahay somalida inta xumaatay oo dhan.

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John M.Voss

Wednesday, June 21, 2000 - 11:34 am
Dear all,

I was with UNOSOM in 1994 and have great esteem for Somalia. I truly believe that public safety can be restored if it isn´t already. This being said I also like to live, all Kafir that I am, and wouldn´t want to visit unless it´s reasonably safe. Please would somebody tell me who that German was who died, what he or she did wrong (if anything) and so on.

I would also like to get to know somebody who´s going to tell me where to offer used equipment such as for well drilling.

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LaBella

Wednesday, June 21, 2000 - 06:45 pm
Jeeni, I see the sea!!!!!!!!!! Garanay oo ruugnay.

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coolman.

Wednesday, June 21, 2000 - 09:54 pm
xoogsade.

Thanks for the poem...It is really great..adeer.. I am not worried a bit by SHE.. or her likes.. I am not the confused one... the dazed.. calooshiis la cayaar.. who thinks...once they made to america.. they have to insult... degrade.. abuse.. somali dignity... and above all.. leave.. their faith... thinking... it is cool to be.. godless..

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MAD MAC

Wednesday, June 21, 2000 - 09:57 pm
Comrade Voss
UNOSOM in 1994? That ought to set this crowd off. What did you do there? I was the S2 with the Quick Reaction Force from July 1992 (I know, I know, murderous bastards for whacking Qeybdid's house) until January 1994. I also spent from December 92 until March of 93 in Baledogle. I retire from the military in 2004 and plan to move to Somalia to live. I really miss it. 'Course, I'm going with a collection of well armed, well trained guys to establish a security firm. I would think of going there unarmed - there are moryan all over the place.

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John M.Voss

Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 01:27 am
Dear Mohamed Ibrahim,

would like to hear from you once more. You have made one of the most moderate and best-informed statements here. The impression I got from Somali citizen while in Somalia was that they are not a violent people at all but very disciplined, hard-working and friendly. The sorriest item I saw was the former University near Mogadishu, crowded with refugee makeshift tents as it then was. Has it yet restarted lecturing ?
Somali can not be restructured from outside, this is why I am prepared to go there and help (if anybody would let me).
Looking forward to hearing from you J.Voss@telering.at

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The Sentinel

Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 05:37 am
She-
You are an ignorant woman. Why do I say that? Simple. Your insults, Your use of vulgarity, your lack of knowledge re: your faith, your emothional outbursts.
And you hide behind the banner of "love for all"-
You claim that you love muslims and non-muslims alike. If that is true, why do you insult the guys who are trying to converse with you. If you were truly unbaised you would have a discussion and not insult.
There is so much death and pain in this world.
Men, women and children suffer because they are poor and disease ridden.
Doesn't it hurt you that in this world of abundance, children starve to death.
Doesn't it hurt you that children are dying of curable diseases?
Doesn't it hurt you that these people are SOMALI?
And you ask about a german? One man?
It is not because we are uncaring- when we say "so what"- Its because we are tired.
PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE.
Somali people have been suffering for over a decade. I am not refering to those who were able to escape, or those who were a part of the power structure. I am refering to the general population. They are DYING. They are STARVING. They are HUNGRY.
What did they ever do to deserve this?
I feel sorry for you. You are filled with hatred and it has sealed your heart.
I will not preach to you- you will never hear me.
I will not advice you- you will never learn.
I will continue to "read" you- and return to my role of a sentinel.

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coolman.

Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 07:17 am
Mohamed ibrahim says < it derives from the gist of the topic to a showdown between two radical individuals.>... Mohamed.. I have yet to see.. a so called moderate person... who doesn't insult.. despise.. those who associate with their religion.. and make it first thing first.. I have this question for you... What was so radical about telling SHE.. not to insult.. Or as an islamic woman.. not to say SHE.. can get married to a nonmuslim person...not that I care about her personal choices..but islamically speaking..?. What is so radical about.. asking.. how a muslim person.. a believer.. equals to a non believer..?. That is the core of the argument... We were not discussing.. the saudi dictators.. the agents of the west...anyway.. whom the US guards with thousands of american troops.. to protect her interest...So can you address with your moderate views.. the issues at hand and save us from these unrelated moderate lectures...or governments installed and protected by your host civilized government..That is another issue.. but let us see the radical points you talked about.. if you can.. like <we have to kill all gaals>.. since you are the third person to repeat.. and I can't find from these postings.. I wanna know where it is written... save me from wondering...

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John M.Voss

Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 08:41 am
To MAD MAC

I could not get hold of you at your e-mail-address
Came back undelivered. Please mail to me at J.Voss@telering.at

Thanks

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She

Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 09:09 am
Sentinel, Big Satan, up in your Ass period...
Boom u are f*cked.....Hit the Road jack A**..

CoolMan,
U are pathetic what is this "JIHAAD"
hahah... lighten up will ya! U taking this whole business seriously.. U think U are the good guy here! "Good Muslim"....hehe!

Again blame the big guy your "Allah" It's his fault I act this way!!! After all he sent the "Satan".....Didn't U learn that in Quraan already???

By the way,I was always like this all my life......I Didn't change overnight...It is in my roots if ya know wht i mean.....Now I want U to disappear...........Quack Quack chicken sh*t.

peace n <3 all

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She

Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 09:13 am
Mohamed Ibrahim, God bless ya aboow!

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MAD MAC

Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 09:39 am
Cool
Can I ask you a few questions? They are not trick questions designed to trap you, I just want to know where you are coming from:

a. Do you think Islam and any other religion can live together side by side without violence?
b. Do you believe that non-believers have the same rights as believers regardless of where they live?
c. Where does the majority of the blame lie for Somalis situation - with Somalis or with outsiders?
d. Why did you leave Somalia?
e. Did you participate in the civil war, avoid it or leave before kick-off?

You can ask any question of myself that you choose, should you desire.

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Lii

Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 11:11 am
She,

She, she, she, hoe, hoe, hoe.

you know why your mouth is sooo filthy, because you suckkkkk the dick of the Gaalada, and you drink their cum like orange juice.

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She

Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 12:04 pm
Lii, I believe u are confused,That was your hooyo................................

Warning;

To all of U that may think of insulting moi ... In advance ----> Big,Black,Satan--> up in your Ass...Wa bilaahi Towfiiq..................
The rest pls ignore this and I thank U..

Peace n <3 all

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Warta suuqa

Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 12:32 pm
My message goes only to the Muslims.

Dear brothers and sisters


I never come across to participate religious issues since I believe it's fruitless argument.

Therefore, I would like to point out that there is misunderstanding is going on between us "Muslims" discussing this topic.

Far from the topic, expressing point of view in general and faith "Iman" toward Allah's boundaries adherence is vital in first hand.

Most of us including me are mixing those things which should be separated in order to agree or disagree each other. However, to believe things whatsoever traditionally as we do often without complying and governing by Qura'an and Xadiith and basing those believes in our discussion is making other people to judge us in wrong. And this is what is going on here.

For the sake of Allah, My Nasteexo to myself and all of us is to keep the boundaries of Allah in safe and clean.


To Lii,

Ina adeer maxaa ku qaaday oo aad la caytameeysaa? adeer ama wax wanaagsan sheeg.. ama iska aamus.

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coolman.

Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 05:06 pm
Let me start with sister SHE.

SHE.

You don't have to resort to these kinds of languages... because of people.. you disagreed with... you can't insult your god and say whatever you like about him...May Allah guide us all to his straight path inshallah.. And may Allah forgive you.. I don't mind a bit if you insult me all day.. you are either my younger sister or older sister.. in which case you deserve some respect.. I pointed out your mistakes.. everybody makes mistakes.. including me.. If somebody tells me I am wrong... I have to accept provided my mistakes are shown to me... So please don't say what you said another time.. there is no need for that... I hope you accept that as a brotherly advice from me..

Allah doesn't tell people to do wrong things... He guides people to where they can find guidance and light and it is up to us.. to either accept that or ignore it... The same way you dress..how you like.. or what you like.. applies to the good deeds.. You can either follow Allah's guidance or ignore... you are given the freewill to believe or disbelieve.. to act or not to act..et etc.. So SHE ... You are not that hopeless.. to say Allah made you the way you are.. I think you can get a grip on yourself and do what is best for you...

LII.

Bro, I think you went overboard... I hope if you apologize to the sister would be great... remember .. A muslim is not profane in any way... I can understand your anger.. so is SHE.. I apologize if you felt dissappointed in me.. there is no need for continuation of this kind of insult.. It has already taken us to a dangerous level... Allah was the limit.. and we crossed that limit already..

Mad.

< They are not trick questions designed to trap you, I just want to know where you are coming from: >

Don't worry mad... I will be able to handle your questions inshallah... If I can't.. other brothers ..will fill in for me...the gap..

<a. Do you think Islam and any other religion can live together side by side without violence? >

Yes, provided everyone has his/her own right... without intimidation.. denial of rights.. and abuse..

<b. Do you believe that non-believers have the same rights as believers regardless of where they live?>

I don't fully understand what you wanna know from my answer to this question... But as I understand it..

A: YES, nonbelievers have the right to life.. the right to own.. the right to worship...the right to marry..etc etc..

Equality doesn't neccessarily mean.. we have to intermingle... marry from each other.. share a lifestyle.. or... behave the same way nonbelievers behave.. we are totally different people according to faith.. and we should remain so.. just different.. A gaalka.. has no right to marry a muslim woman.. that is righful descrimination.. it is due to faith not anything else... If that is what you like to know from the question...

Can I kill every gaal... No.. without a proper justification and cause I can't kill him.. just for his being nonbeliever..

I am running out of time..and will answer your other questions next time..

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Lii

Friday, June 23, 2000 - 04:42 am
She Hoe,

I will never ever apologize to this filthy dhilo whose mouth is so foul that she dare talk negative of her creator. She is garbage, think of me what you may guys, but I'll stoop to her level if I have to.

She is a "NAJASO" and we need to purify ourselves of her. She is so shallow minded that she forgot so easily who she is, and she sold her faith with material, this souless bitchchch, I loathe her, I despise this cockroach. Waan necbahay kuwa gaalada isku tusa inay dadkooda caayaan.

SHE< I think you are so mad to your ppl, because you are so ugly that you couldn't find a Somali bro to thrust his dickk into your stinking mouth, let alone your kintirless pusssy and your cracked asss

Ciao

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coolman.

Friday, June 23, 2000 - 05:01 am
LII,

Nin rag oo sidaada kale u ceytamaaya wali waa ii dhimman yahay... ulajeedaadaan ka shakis nahay ... this is stupid now.... how can you associate with islam and inslut like these?... Or you want the same response.. so that.. this has to continue forever... what a disgrace...

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Ayuub

Friday, June 23, 2000 - 05:45 am
LEE,

I had the pleasure of knowing SHE for the last seven years. I have to point out this for you she is extremely beautiful women. And she is well respected among her friends. If she says something about her creator then that is between her and him… if there is indeed one up there. Lee I hope you don't expect all Somali's to have the same believe and faith.

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Ayuub

Friday, June 23, 2000 - 06:37 am
Coolman,

Why does it frequently provoke confrontation and insults when a Somali persons admits his doubts about Islam? Like it is a taboo… no one can talk about.
Coolman I would like you to elaborate on the above mentioned question. Waan ka xumahay if I offended anyone.

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Magda

Friday, June 23, 2000 - 11:24 am
Bismilaahi raxmaani raxiim. Weligey aduunka intaan ku noolaa waxaan oo kale ma arkin.waxaan la hadlayaa walaasheen "SHE",abaayo ilaaheygii ku abuurtay ka baq.Waxaa doonto dadkaan ku dheh laakiin kufrinimo waxaa ugu weyn qofka ilaah saa u address gareeya.

To every1 in here, please cuudu bileysta,ceyda iska daaya,cibaadeysta, eena is dhowra. Ilaahey inta is dhowrto ayuu jecel yahaye.

To MAD MAC:

It's my opinion that you leave somali affairs to the somalis.And as a somali myself i should warn you that if you ever went to somalia you may never have the luck to come back at all or live to be old.

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mohamed ibrahim

Friday, June 23, 2000 - 11:13 pm
Coolman,
The fact that the killing of the German expatriate was wrongful. I believe any wrongful killing is constitutionally repugnant. Any other person having a common sense should obviously believe that too. Simply, you don't agree with what "SHE" wrote doesn't mean the killing of the German man is justified. Also remember every one of us is entitled to opinion and you have the right to criticize but don't personalize the issue. well, the issue of "SHE" being muslim and wanting to marry non-muslim we should all leave that decision to her since it's "SHE" who will marry not you or me! dont intervene with anyone's personal decision. and in "AAQIRO" she will answer it not you or me right? so why do you care...

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Mudaneh

Friday, June 23, 2000 - 11:16 pm
waa la doodaa,fikrad ayaa la dhiibtaa,mid ijtimaaci ah ama mid diineed,waxaase ugu daran diinta oo uu qofkasto uu ku jawaabi karin sida uu doono,ixtiraam,qadarin iyo alla ka cabsi ayeey diintu mudantahay,bini aadamku wuu qaldami karaa,adigana waajibkaaga weeye in aad wax usheegto qofki qaldamay,laakiin in aad caay tanto kuma jirto meesha,ilaah ka cabsada sida ay wlaasheen tiri.

Lii,
coolman dhowr jeer ayuu isku dayay in uu ku dejiyo kuuna sheego in dumarka lala caaytamo ama la caayo aysan wanaagsaneen weliba inagoo ka hadleeyno diinta,laakiin waxaad moodaa in si shaqsi ah aad u eeganeeyso she,taas waxaan kaa iri :qofki diinta ku qaldamo waano iyo wax u sheeg ayaad ku leedahay,caay qofki umbaad diinti ku sii xumeeyneeysaa,iska dhaaf caayda.
Nin rag ah naag in uu la caaytamo naag waa qalad,anaguna rag aan dhiig iyo diinba lahayn ma nihin ka joog caayda,haddii kaleh waynu wada dimbaabi oo jawaab buuxda waad heli.

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coolman.

Saturday, June 24, 2000 - 05:10 am
mahamed ibrahim.

<The fact that the killing of the German expatriate was wrongful>.... the fact is that.. any killing of a human being... without a due cause is wrongful...I don't understand.. what makes this particular one stick out... Or may be... the proponents of the idea.. and their countless repeatition of the.. killed man's case.. will score some points... and shall make all somalis...hungry...blood.. thirsty ...uneducated.. radical people.. that is the impression I have.. from these postings...To add.. to the sore points.. you willfully ignored.. the questions I asked you about islam...not the killed ...May be.. by answering them.. you will be radical.. huh?... Okey.. I get it.. mohamed.. you are bound.. by your personal rules.. and if they dictated to you.. to ignore... those painful questions.. you might as well accept my apology...

I lost interest in SHE anyway.. for goodness' sakes.. let us all chill.. I think once.. someone clearly... indicates.. what can be expected from.. him or her... it is better not to continue....

<Also remember every one of us is entitled to opinion and you have the right to criticize but don't personalize the issue.>...

Had I not believed that... I wouldn't have asked SHE.. my first question.. I wanted to know.. what kind of religion she practiced... since her.. ideas were not found in the Quran.. What would you expect from a somali person generally speaking..? .. I had to make sure.. So it went from there... on and on... untill... hell broke loose...

<well, the issue of "SHE" being muslim and wanting to marry non-muslim we should all leave that decision to her>... Mohammed...I thought the Quran said.. about the character of the muslims....

<3.114 They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right, and forbid what is wrong; and they hasten (in emulation) in (all) good works: They are in the ranks of the righteous. >...

<9.71 The Believers, men and women, are protectors one of another: they enjoin what is just, and forbid what is evil: they observe regular prayers, pay Zakat, and obey Allah and His Messenger. On them will Allah pour His mercy: for Allah is
Exalted in power, Wise.>...

and addressed the opposite group as such...

<9.67 The Hypocrites, men and women, are from one another: They enjoin evil, and forbid what is just, and tighten their hands(from giving). They have forgotten Allah; so He has forgotten them. Verily the Hypocrites are rebellious and perverse>

Given the description of the two people.. and their behaviour.. I think.. a true muslim would opt.. to the first group.. and tell his people.. if they are doing wrong.. that they should stop.. regardless of the thinking of the others.. aren't all muslims brothers and sisters... The above postings belie that... obviously.. and you can walk through the forumss to see what else is written... by people who call themselves somalis and say all unsomali things let alone islam..

In the end... It is better and more respectful.. for everyone.. to stop... being afraid of who he is.. and openly speak about it.. rather than getting it accross in a negative way... at the expense of the somali people...

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MAD MAC

Saturday, June 24, 2000 - 06:25 am
Magda
None of us live forever. We all gotta do what we gotta do.

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She

Saturday, June 24, 2000 - 10:32 pm
Fresh start,wixii hore, ka rogoo labo saar...
Remember now I am only women don't have much brain like the boys here + I suffer PMS, So I some times forget to behave lady like, that means I am apologizing to U little devil...

You said;[You can't insult your god and say whatever you like about him....]

It is apparent that it is God's will for me to behave this way.....
I don't c how that could be an insult to God and all Muslim Nation???
All that is written in the Quraan for Eg. "Wa Huwa Calaa kuli Shey in Qadiir"
Acording to Quran nothing happens with out Allah's will Good or Bad Therefor,Allah sent The big bloody Satan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sometimes my small head wonders about God....I swear to U I am not trying to make anybody upset here,at least Not this time....

It's really strange why Allah is being so unfair,by sending so many different religions... If we are not allowed to choose one what is the use?
To create endles confusion????????? We already have enough problems as it is, do we need some more things to fight about and hate/kill each other for?....

I just canot get it bro!!!!Coolman Does my small head make sense to U?
If It dosn't, your advise is highly appreciated...Pls do not tell me to pry labo Rakco cuz I dont and I won't............


In the mean time I'll try to hope that one day God will lead me to the Siraat Al-mustaqiim....
I guess I need your blessing here Coolman!!!!LOL
So I can ;;;;;;;;;,,,,,,,,........


Lii = .

(*****&&&&&#&^%!@~~~~-->) Thank U

Unfortunately, Kinterless doesn't apply to me maybe your mutilated sisters.....

Dhilo, Nijaaso it is not valid here TOO.... I have to admit I can never be dhilo cuz I don't know how to fake.............

<<<<Waan necbahay kuwa gaalada isku tusa inay dadkooda caayaan>>>>
U are wrong I don't want U or Gaalada or anybody else to Think I am some one other than myself.....
U c I don't like pretending, simply I am not smart enough to lie about my self, unlike U Mr G*s Head!
I don't care if U hate me or like me for who I am....... No showing off here this is me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!kindly get that to ur Atom zised brain..........

I think U should APOLOGIZE to all Somaali women or who ever is mutilated...Remembar "Cadka balaqa dareen wadaha ah is still mine" Mukulaal= yaanyuur= bisad mala siinin or what ever the heck The Goddamn Witch doctors=Dadqalato use to do with it...

My family were kind and civilized enough to not mutilate me......About the cracked dabo u talking about not for me, I don't c me engaging such act NOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAY, however I don't disagree with homosexuals.....As a matter of fact I support them 100% :-)


Mudaneh,
<<<<Nin rag ah naag in uu la caaytamo naag waa qalad>>>>

Way to go for considering woman are less than man, Keep the good work and tell your brother to behave like a man not like filthy woman.....

As a Human or Muslim, Wouldn't it be nice to say insulting others is not good/polite? Instead of mentioning your freaking Raganimo? AAAAX yaa Kutaab Gaablow............Wa bilaahi towfiiq-->

Peace n <3 all

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She

Saturday, June 24, 2000 - 10:52 pm
Ayuub I <3 U bro!


Magda,

Sis ----> pls redirect your arrow, meaning there is no business for U between me and The big guy he knows how to take care of his business he doesn't need help from U......Wa bilaahi towfiiq

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SISTA

Sunday, June 25, 2000 - 02:52 am
Salaam to all the Muslims,
I cannot comprehend how the death of one Belgian man can spark such an argument ...its beyond belief! Also why don’t we talk about the horrendous, atrocities the Belgians soldiers committed when they went as humanitarians to Somalia? What’s up with that? Why can't we discuss that? What about the many Somali lives these very people destroyed, why can’t we discuss that? …Can anyone fill me in on how we, Somalis abroad can be so concerned with the death of one man (a foreigner) but not the death of many of Somali bothers/sisters. Lets first discuss the crimes committed by the Belgian soldiers in Somalia.
This man died so what? Many of my people are dying too!
(Firstly we all gotta go so it’s the inevitable, secondly its ONE foreign non believer and not ONE Somali/Muslim man, thirdly why should we discuss ONE man’s death and not the death of THOUSANDS in Somalia)
Lets get our priorities straight people….

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MAD MAC

Sunday, June 25, 2000 - 08:51 am
SISTA
It was a German man - not a Belgian. And the discussion on the Belgians has already come and gone.
If you hunt around these pages (and you don't have to look far) there's lots of dicussion about the unfortunate fate of many Somalis. I emphathize with your point, but talking about thi German guy doesn't lessen the loss of the Somali victims.

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Warta suuqa

Sunday, June 25, 2000 - 01:03 pm
SHE,

Salaan ka dib, waxaan filayaa inaadan arrin shaqsi ah u qaadan doonin arrinkan..

" It's really strange why Allah is being so unfair,by sending so many different religions... If we are not allowed to choose one what is the use? " waa hadalkaagi. Hadaan qaladkaa fahmayna waad i sixi kaartaa walaashiis..

Unfair: unjust, unreasonable, dishonest, imbalanced, partial, one-sided.

Tusaalooyinkaas waxaan kasoo helay dictionariga anigoo bal macna u raadinaya.. No comment.

Ilaahy wuxuu abuuro bani aadamka ayaa ugu sharaf badan (Walaqad Karramnaa Banii Aadama) saa caqli ayuu siiyay.. iyadoo waliba xurnimada caqiidana loogu daray oo aanan la afjujuubin.. soow arrin layaableh maahan walaaleey.. Saasoo ay tahay bani aadmka waxaa lagu yiri hadaad ismoodaan inuu abuuritaankiinu adagyahay waxaa idinka adag oo idinka dhib badan abuuritaanka cirirka iyo dhululka.. (La Khalqu Sumaawaati Wal Ardi Akbaru min Khalqikum) saasoo ay tahay Ilaahay wuxuu ka dhigay cirirka iyo dhulalka wax sakhiran oo un iska socda.. ikhtiyar ay leeyihiina aysan jirin. Alle soow caadil maahan ?

Kasoo tag, caqliga inala siiyay wuxuu leeyahay xad uusan dhaafi karin ee uu u baahanyahay inuu ka haro arrimaha qaarkood taasoo isaga maslaxad ugu jirta.. Ooysan ahayn wuxuu noqon doonaa dadka iyaga islahadla ugu danbayn.. Taasi waxay ku dhacadaa culimada Science ka ee baadigooba xaqiiqadaha jira. (Wamaa uutiitum minal Cilmi Ilaa Qaliilan)( Caadilnimada Alle ayay ka daliil tahay tanina)

Ilaahay diima fara badan ee lagu wareero ma uusan soo diran, kuwa is dhameeystira ayuu soo diray ee mid waliba tii ka horaysay kasii wada muhimadii tii ka horaysay loosoo dajiyay.. waxa is badala waa dadka iyo samanka iyo sababaha keena inay dadku ka leexdaan wadadii loo jeexay ee ahayd inay bartaan ama ogaadaan Alihii abuuray.. (Nin kuu digay kuma dilin) ayay Soomaalida tiraah.. Allah wuxuu dadka usoo diray Rasuulo, Nabiyo ee shaqadoodu tahay inay dadka Alle baraan oo ay u digaan. Maxaa dhacay? ..
( in lagu oogu maalinka aakhiro xujooyin iyo burhaano oo aysan dhihin Rabiyoow nooma aadan digin xaqa nama aadan tusin Taasoo macnaheedu yahay Aloow caadil ma tihid, (Subxaanalaah) unfair ayaad tahay, waad naga dhinacaysay waadna khiyaantay oo inta na abuurtay baad ibliisna gacanta inoo galisay, maxaadan dad wax inoo sheega inoogu soo dirin? Si aysan taa u dhicin ayuu Alle inoo sheegay ee uu yiri ( Wamaa Kunaa Mucadibiina Xataa nabcatha Rasuulaa). Suuratul Tabaaarak sidoo kale malaaikta ayaa dadka maalinka aakhiro waxay waydiin doonaan iyagoo la yaaban waxa ay ku kasbadeen hooga ay ku jiraan oo ay leeyihiin ( Kulamaa ulqiya fiihaa fawjun sa’alahum Khazanatuhaa Alam yatikum Nadiir?, Qaaluu Balaa.. Qad Jaa’anaa Nadiirun Fakadabnaa) oo aan ula jeedo in Alle uu caadil yahay, dadkana uu usoo diray wax runta u sheega, laakinse ay dadku xornimadii la siiyay, caqligii loogu hibeeyay, sharaftii lagu daahay ay garan waayeen sidii ay u isticmaali lahaayeen ama (ay ka iisheen xaqa). Taasi waxay ku tusinaysaa Alle inuu Caadil yahay.


Umadihii gurmay iyo diimahoodii waxaa lagu badalay oo uu Alle kusoo gabagabeeyay diinta Islaamka oo uu ku cadeeyay Quraanka in Kutuba kale iyo Rusala kale aanan lasoo diri doonin.. Diinta ugu danbeeysa ee ilaahay agtiisa ka jirtana ay tahay Islaamka ( Inna diina cindal Alahi Al-Islam) Qofka isagoo doorasha leh ee uu ilaahay siiyay caqligaa aan soo sheegnay ee la yiri runta baadi goob anna labada wada waan ku tusinayay ee ( Wahadaynaahu Al-Najadayni) ayaa waxaa loo sii raaciyay bani aadamkii aayad kale oo qofka tusinaysa xornimada diinta (Laa ikraaha fil diini, Qad tabayan Al-Rushdu minal Gayi) sidaa awgeed Alle soow caadil maahan

Ugu danbeeyn,,, xorimada caqiidada iyo doorashada wadooyinka sida loo kala muujiyay markii Quraanka lagu cadeeyay ayaa waxaa lagusoo gunaanaday aayadan (Waman yabtagi gayral Islaami diinan falan yuqbala minhu) taasoo macnaheedu yahay:

Diin kastoo aan soo dajinay.
Rasuulkastoo aan soo dirnay
Xornimakastoo aan idin siinay.

Waxaad ogaataan inaynaan wax kale idinka aqbali doonin si kastoo aad waxaad rabtaan u aamintaan… Kaliya diinta Islaamka ayaa agtayda ka jirta ( Hadysan sidaa dhici lahaynna dee Alle caadil muusan ahaadeen,, kana hufan waxa aan ku sheegnaye) sidaa daraadeed Alle waa caadil.. ( Waman Asdaqo minalahi qiilan) ( Alaysalaahu Bi Axkamil xaakimiin) ?


Qisada Sheeydaanka iyo Ibliiska marka danbe ayaan ka hadli doonaa haduu Ilaahay yiraahdo.. iyo in uu Alle Ibliis markii hore hanuuniyay ee lagu daray Malaaikta Alle ka ag dhaw, ee daraja wayn la gaarsiiyay.. Ee xaqa uu aqbalay.. Laakinse ugu danbeeyntii xageebuu ku danbeeyay? Soow xornimadiisa kuma dooran Ibliis inuu wadadaa qaado, ma waxaan dhihi karnaa Alle caadil maahan oo Ibliis hadii marki hore la hanuunin lahaa maanta sidaa xaalkiisa ma ahaadeen? Soowta heerkaas la gaarsiiyay ee isaguna xornimadiisa ku doortay inuu wadaadaa qaado.. Maxay Cadaalada ilaahay ka dhintay arrinkaa isaga ah?

Waxaan arrinkaa u cadeeynaya waxaa igu kallifay waa anoo is door biday in runta aan aaminsanahay aan daaha ka qaado..


Wixi aan qaldayna Alle ha iga cafiyo..

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mudaneh

Sunday, June 25, 2000 - 10:10 pm
SHE,

ilaah diimo kala duwan ayuu soo dejiyay,diinba diinti ka dambeeysay ayuuna ku nasaqay,maxaa qalad ah oo ku jiro?
haddii aan example kaaga soo qaado bini'aadamka dhexdiisa sida militeriga marka ay is am rayaan waxaa la yiraahda qaado amarba amarka uu ka dambeeyo,waana qaataa,haddaba ilaah ayaa ku faray diintan tan ugu dambeeysay ee qaado,ma ilaah baad la tirsan?ma ilaah baad u sheegi sida uu umadiisa u maamuli lahaa?
is mahadinta qaarkeed,kufurnimo ayeey keentaa,miyaadan ahayn bini aadam daba ku xaarle ah?haddii ay kaa tahay kaftan iyo halagaa sheeko,
uma baahnid in diinta aad sidaas uga hadasho,
waxaana ku leeyahay ilaah ha ku soo hadeeyo.

teeda kaleh,looma baahneen in aad dabadaada inooga hadashid,sida ay kuu tahayba adiga ayeey ku anfici ama ku dhibi.

diinta wixi ka soo hara,la qosol,la ooy,u falki
darin,dambiil ama xaarin,adiga ayeey ku jirtaa,laakiin diinta yeeysan kaftan ama jaha wareer kaa gelin.

f.g,
marna kuma talo galin in wax qalad ah aan ku iraahdo haddii ayse dhacdo in wax uun aad qalad iiga qaadato inti aan iri,fadlan raalli ka noqo.

Warta,
camalta li caleeyk,wal baaqii cala laah.

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mim

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 06:52 am
runtii boggan waan ka maqnaa oo maalmahan ma soo booqan oo meelo kalaan wareegayey laakiin wacdaraa
ka dhacay meesha .
warta
runtii aad iyo aad baad ugu mahadsan tahay sida wanaagsan eed mowduuca u soo jeedisay waana loo bahan yahay runtii in la helo rag markay kaftan taagan tahayna kaftama markay meelxun ka waceetana
xaqqa garab istaaga ayagoon gaabinaynin isla markaana xadka ka baxayn(alwasad baynal ifraad wa tafriid) .
wixii aan ku dari lahaana waxba maadan noo reebin.
mudane
adna mahadsanid
she ariitaani mayu walaaguun lu koo sheegayi aniina weybi lahaaye geberaa ha siin bati.
wax badan baan iri doodaheena ha noo soomaliyowdo daaqada haka baxaan gaal walboo naga dhexqaraabanaya oon afkeena aqoon.

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Anonymous

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 09:03 am
Warta Suuqa,

Could you tell me how would you feel if one day you realize that all religions are man-made. And there is nothing called life after death. As a human being would you be able to distinguish between right and wrong without considering judgment day.
I advise you to read the book "Origin of species".

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NeefoowKaniini

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 09:40 am
,,,Warta Suuqa Walaale armaanu isku fikrad nahay aniga iyo Gabadhaa She ah se kolka ay gaadho Qadarka laftigeygu aan soo harayo oon isleeyahay wuxuba nin uunbaa isu geegeeyay oo aguugay anoon Thiest ka duulin una duulin Athiest armaan dhex ool iska noqdaa,, Ma hubo ,,oo mana hubo mana tiigsan karo OO Cilmagan Science-ka la leeyahay uunbaan ka sugayaa wuxuu ka yiraaho arrinka Qadarka ah beryahanna waxaan maqlayay Black hole iyo milkyway galxies,,,...se haddaad inoo soo Sharxi karto walaaloow inaan dhinac isugu biiro waan jeclaan lahaa,,,,,,...

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xamardaye

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 11:15 am
NEEFKA,

iimaanku waa rukni ka mid ah arkaanta islaamka,
sidaas darteed yeelo ama la imoow iimaan,sheeydaan kana iska rajiimi oo coowdi bileeyso,aduun iyo aakhirana kala badan.

mim,
hadalkaada qaar ayaa ii gooyay ee jilci.

nabad iyo caano

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NeefoowKaniini

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 11:42 am
...,,Ma fahmin,,,inaan fahmo ii fiicnaan lahayd

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Warta suuqa

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 12:23 pm
Anon,

It depends on who you are? If you are a Muslim, my answer would be different than if you are not. Thanks for your invitation to read the “Origin of species” though I even don’t know what it is and I always look this subject in open mind, and I would like to say nothing is new for me that man kind would be able to contribute in terms of proving his phenomena.

Neefoow,

Abtiyoow Qura’aanka aayad uu ka hadlay ee aan is iri toloow cid kaba fakan kartaahi oo daliil raadis ah ma ay jirto si kastuu u war wareegaba(Maa farratnaa fil kitaabi min sheeyin) oo aad garanayso macnaheeda oo ah (Waxba kamaynaan hilmaamin inaan ku sheegnaahi kitaabkan Quraanka) wax kastoo aad doonaysid waa aad ka heli kartaa weeye macnadeedu.

Markastoo aan Qur’aanka akhriyaba waxaan la yaabi jiray duul lagu tilmaamay inay ayagu naftooda caabudaan, ismana lahayn waad arki doontaa noloshaada, laakinse kolkaan North America imi ayaan arkay duulkaa iyaga ah.. Ilaahay SWT wuxuu yiri (Afa raya’ayta manitakhatha ilaahahu hawaahu Fa adalahu sabiilaa) kuwa nabi ciise iyo hooyadii Maryama, iyo adoonkii suubanaa ee Cusayr la oran jiray caabuday waan arkay oo waa kuwa aan dhex joogno hadda. Laakinse sidaan sheegayba kuwaa la yiraahdo confusions people ee waxay arkaan iyo sidi ay wax ula muuqdaan wax u caabuda soow kuwaas ay aayadu sheegtay maahan ee naftooda hawadeeda raacay.. Yaab badanaa walee Quraanka dad wax waa usheegay waxna waa ka celiyay ee mushkilada taagan waxay tahay yaa ku waana qaadanayo? horaa loo yiri. (Dhaga laab u duleela iyo dhaga leer u duleela) wax lagu kala maqli og.. yaa, kuwii wax maqli lahaa ma nahay toloow (Walaqad yasarnal qura’aana lildikri fahla min mudakirin)?.


Mim,

Adcaful iimaan ayaa la inooga baahanyahay sidaad ogtahayba.. Fardul kifaayahana waa in la ridaa widaayoow.

Xamardaye,

Camalnaa ila calaynaa, wanacmal ila calal aakhariin waliba.

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NeefoowKaniini

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 01:12 pm
,,,,Warta walaale ilaahay kaa abaal mai se meeshaan u jeeday ma aanad marin arrinkaan kaa codsaday,,,,,,arrinku qadarkuu ahaa,,A diguna meel kalaat la aadfay se aan doonayo inaan ku qanciyo caruurteyda imaaanad fahmin baan is iri,,,tii Jabuutina meel iga haysato,,,iyo arrimmo kalee farabadan waa haddaad waqti u hayso,,,,,,,,

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Anonymous

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 01:27 pm
Warta Suuqa,

I am muslim and somali,,, so still i am waiting for my answer...

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coolman.

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 02:47 pm
anonymous.

YOU SAID <I am muslim and somali,,, so still i am waiting for my answer... >.... If you are a muslim you would find your answer in the Quran.... like this verse... and many more... that tell.. Allah starts.. the creation of all species.. for his own plans... and knowledge...

<10.4 It is (HE)Allah Who beginnes the process of
creation and repeates it, that He may reward with justice those who believe and work righteousness>.


<14.19 See you not that Allah created the heavens and the earth in Truth? If He so wills, He can remove you and put (in your place) a new creation>

this coming one is more direct and obvious... that Allah starts the origins of everything...

<27.64 Or, Who originates Creation, then repeats it, and who gives you sustenance from heaven and earth? (Can there be another) god besides Allah? Say, "Bring forth your argument, if you are telling the truth!" >...

<32.7 He Who created all things in the best, and He began the creation of man from clay>... and as proven in science that man has... earthly chemicals in every sense... and thus... creation from the sand is truth...

Remember.. evolution is a theory.. than can be proven or disapproven... it is not the final.. word.. of a devine being.. neither it is... a plausible theory given today's advance in biotechnology... the more people discover.. themselves.. the more they tend to believe in higher..order..

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Hassan Jimaale

Tuesday, June 27, 2000 - 01:46 am
MAD MAC Daydreaming huh.You hope to open a security firm in Somalia.I will be there waiting for you.Iam waiting eagerely to kick you ass and parade you as the other kuffars in 1993.Iam looking ahead to that day.A word of advice stay away from Somalia.

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xamardaye

Tuesday, June 27, 2000 - 08:05 am
Anon,

are you Mad-Mac?

if yes,90 jeeydal baad mu teeysatay.

Warta,
alaaya jaziik camalak aldhayib.

Coolman,
jawaabti aan siin lahaa waad siisay.

Kaniini,
walaaloow haddii ay jiraan wax mugdi kaaga jiro ama aad dhanka caruurta kaa heesto,ila soo xiriir,
kheer beey noqon.

nabad iyo caano

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Warta suuqa

Tuesday, June 27, 2000 - 02:35 pm
Anon,

“how would you feel if one day you realize that all religions are man-made. And there is nothing called life after death?”

I really don’t know where to start? But let me put it in this way. Our assumption is based on uncertainty that nothing is true but fake!! For the sake of argument, one has submitted already his declaration to Allah that he is a Muslim.. agreed as you said.

Next is “ Faith “ “ Eeman “ where your question is lying under one of the pillars “life after death” of which every Muslim should be accepted completely without hesitation.

“ What! When we die and become dust, shall we live again? That is a sort of return far from our understanding” Verse # 50 (Qaaf). They said 1421 years ago. Why?

Again here is the confusion people’s possession “ They ask: When will this promise be fulfilled? If ye are telling the truth” Verse # 67.

The argument between creator and man kind still going on, and Allah is proving that the truth has been said since we are materialistic. Here is the story.

Prophet Abraham time there was a man who denied the resurrection day and while passing this village commented by saying:

“ Or (take) the similitude of one who passed by a hamlet, all in ruins to its roofs, he said: Oh, how shall God bring it (ever) to life, after (this) its death?. But God caused him to die for a hundred years, then raised him up (again) He said “how long didst thou tarry (thus)? He said “(perhaps) a day or part of a day”. He said “ Nay, thou hast tarried thus a hundred years; but look at thy food and thy drink; they show no signs of age, and look at thy donkey, and that we may make of thee a sign unto the people, look further at the bones how we bring them together, how we bring them together and cloth them with flesh.” When this was shown clearly to him, he said “ I know that God hath power over all things”. Verse # 2. Al-Baqara.

Moreover, Allah said in surah (Qaaf) again;

“ It was We Who created man, and we know what dark suggestions his soul makes to him; for We are nearer to him than (his) jugular vein.”

As a materialistic we wanted everything to see it, when that day comes no chance to believe what has been denied in this life… same surah, Allah says;

( It will be said) “ Thou was heedless of this; now have we removed thy veil, and sharp is sight this day”.

You see the clearance of vision will now be even greater. What is stupor or unconsciousness to this probationary life will be the opening of the eyes to the spiritual world?; for death is the gateway between the two. Once through that gateway man will realize how the things which he neglected or looked upon as remote are the intimate realities, and the things which seemed to loom large in his eyes in this world were shadows that have fled. The things he wanted to avoid are the things that have really come to pass.. Both good and Evil will realize the truth now in its intensity.

Bro, I can’t imagine myself as a Muslim raising this question. Other wise (god forbid) I’m not true Muslim.. In this case all I need is to read more and more the Qur’an in order to understand clearly this subject.

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NeefoowKaniini

Wednesday, June 28, 2000 - 08:38 am
,,,,,,Warta Suuqa Bro Jazaaka laah khayr,,Laakinse Suaasheu inkastoon si hagaagsan aanan kolkii hore si hagaagsan aanan u soo bandhigin laftigeedu waxeey ka soo jeeddaa arkaanta Iimaanka oo Arrinka Qadarka ahi kolka la leeyahay ,,,,Shaqiyun Amaa Siciid ,,,Oo aan is iraaho waa sideey She tiri oo kalee Mugdi weyn baa iigaga jira mana jecli inaan ku dhintaa Anoo Xaq doon ah oo Agnostic dhex ool ahina aan ku xijaabto oo dhinac inaan isugu bataan jeclaan lahaa,,,, Laakinse haddii waxoogaa la isla wad wado oo laga hadlaa si hufan iney wax uun hagaagi lahaayeen baan aaminsanahay ,,,,,,Midna aan kuu horumariyoo waan Akhriyay Caqiidad daxaawi se si iila khalafsanaaday sidii Miraha -------(walbo geed hebel) Duub duubkaa lagu liqaa,,,oo waxoogaa Mugdi iga galay inaan Musayir ahay iyo inaan Mustakhyar ahay,,,,,Khayaar inaan leeyahay iyo inaan khayaar lahayn oo la i hago,,,,Kol haddii horayba loo qoray waxaan mudan oo dhan oo sheydaankana la ii soo Abuuray inuu Dariiqii sax da ahaa iga carqaladeeyo,,.........

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Jeego

Wednesday, June 28, 2000 - 11:17 am
Warta, neefow baan daba socdaa walaal ninka ladilay
oo lasoo nooleeyey gartay. haddaan hareeraha eekno
iyo waayo aragnimadeena yar mahayno ninkaas oo kale?

Middeeda kale walaalow adoon si kale u arkin arintaan baa i wareerisaye sidda Quraanka kariimka ah lagu sheegay. Ilaahay wax uu nooga baahanyay majirto.

maxaa naloo jaribayaa?! Oo sidda ninkaad sheegaysid kii murankiisu bataba Boqal sano inta laseexiyo ma lasoo toosiyo? Hadeey Taas dhacdana Waxaan kuu Hubaa walaasheey SHE ineey ku waalan lahayd Salaatu Shukri.

fii Amaani Laah

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NeefoowKaniini

Wednesday, June 28, 2000 - 11:42 am
,,,,,Inaa lilaah wa inaa ileeh raajicuun,,,Amaa nalaga aarsanaa hee Maskiinkii GERMANYga ahaay anakana hal aa nalaga qararamsaday,, oo maanteey bajiyeen asoo xafiiskiisa iska dhex fadhiyo!!!!ee ilaah ha u naxariisto,,,,,,


Two United Nations staff members were shot dead at the mission of the U.N.'s Food and Agriculture Organization in Baghdad on Wednesday after a man entered the office and the army then stormed the building, the FAO said.

Nick Parsons, head of media at the Rome-based agency, told Reuters: ``We believe one man took over the office. The army sealed the office and a decision was taken to storm the office. There was shooting, we don't know who from, and two members of staff, one international and one local, were shot dead.

``We understand others, maybe two, are in hospital with serious bullet wounds,'' he added.

FAO spokesman John Riddle in Rome said there had been reports from Iraq that the international staff member killed was from Somalia.

Riddle said he had no details about the identity of the gunman or what his demands were. ``He's just been described as a lone gunman,'' he said.

No details were immediately available of how many staff worked in the Baghdad office,,

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Muriidi

Wednesday, June 28, 2000 - 01:52 pm
Could that be Diirshe, he was there the last time I saw him.

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NeefoowKaniini

Wednesday, June 28, 2000 - 06:18 pm
,,,,,SURE,,,,Muriidi

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She

Friday, June 30, 2000 - 04:22 pm
Dear Warta

[Unfair: unjust, unreasonable, dishonest, imbalanced, partial, one-sided. ] That is exactly what I meant when I said God is being unfair! God imposed on us so many religions... Is it trial and error equation? I have no clue... You make me wonder more for that specific answer... And I would like you to elaborate on this specific point... Believe me my bro your effort is highly appreciated.

[caqliga inala siiyay wuxuu leeyahay xad uusan dhaafi karin ee uu u baahanyahay inuu ka haro arrimaha qaarkood taasoo isaga maslaxad ugu jirta.. Ooysan ahayn wuxuu noqon doonaa dadka iyaga islahadla ugu danbayn.. Taasi waxay ku dhacadaa culimada Science ka ee baadigooba xaqiiqadaha jira.]
Let me get this clear, are you suggesting that I shouldn't question? Even if had doubts. I thought the main reason that we are blessed with this brain is to think and distinguish between logic and nonsense. My small head can't accept this. If I can't question there must be something fishy about it. We are not trying to hide any thing here. Are we?

Jaale Mudaneh,

You said [ilaah diimo kala duwan ayuu soo dejiyay,diinba diinti ka dambeeysay ayuuna ku nasaqay,maxaa qalad ah oo ku jiro?haddii aan example kaaga soo qaado bini'aadamka dhexdiisa sida militeriga marka ay is am rayaan waxaa la yiraahda qaado amarba amarka uu ka dambeeyo,waana qaataa]
Horta what does nasaqid mean??????? Anyway, Consider me as soldier who is "Amar diid" you are not asking me to follow you blindfolded? Are u jaale ?
Sorry ,I can't with hold what my conscious is telling me. That sound like hijacking my little brain. Over my dead body. I won't follow you unless I get concrete explanation. I don't mind being called the "disobedient soldier" for the time being.......

Jaale Mutilationka/dabo talk it was addressed to Lii Not to you.... However, I wonder why you only detected particularly that word "dabo" you must be sexually frustrated...


[inta yeeysan kaftan ama jaha wareer kaa gelin.] Mr confused Sixiroole, I am not joking about God and religion.... this is truly how I feel, and I am not afraid to point out what seems logic to me.It my sound big joke to you, but as a matter of fact God already knows how I feel if there is one up there..


Mudane Mim!

Surprise ariikaana!

[wax badan baan iri doodaheena ha noo soomaliyowdo daaqada haka baxaan gaal walboo naga dhexqaraabanaya oon afkeena aqoon]

First of all I don't agree with ya Secondly "Malakal-Moot guri faaruuq/eber muxuu ka qaadaa?" What on earth are they going to get out of this ????? Let me guess warkeey ka beec mushtarayaan miyaa ? yacni lacag meey ka suubinayaan? Hadaan warka ka xasdo what do I have to loose or gain aboow?

Neefoow Kaniini, Do not confuse me. Make up your mind damn it...So are saying that you are atheist or what?


Wa bilaaahi towfiiq------->

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Warta suuqa

Friday, June 30, 2000 - 04:52 pm
Akhyaarta waa salaamantihiin,

Neefoow & Jeego,

Arrinka Qaddanrka arrin sahlan maaha sidaad ka dhawaajiseenba. Laakin su'aasha uu jeego ka dhawaajiyay baan waxaan ka oran lahaa tusaalahan isaga ah.

Ugu horayn waxaad ila aaminsantihiin in wax waliba ay ku dhacaan aqoonta ilaahay iyo awoodiisa. Waxaad kaloo ila aaminsantihiin siduu ilaahay Quraankiisaba ku yiri goortii ibna aadam la abuuray ee dhabrakiisa laga soo saaray wixii ubud ahaa ee dunid ku dhalan doona iyagoo sidii ukumaha oo kale ah, ee uu Allah kolkaa kuwada yiri "Alastu birabikum" oo ibana aadam caruurtiisiina ku jawaabaan "Qaaluu Blaa" taasoo inooga cadaanaysa inay galeen ballan adag oo ay qirteen inuu rabbi qura uu jiro.

Kasoo tag arrinkaa, aanu isweeydiinee yaa ballanta buriyay? soow innaga maahan ee markaan imaanay dunida u kala baxnay laba koox; kuwa ballantii ay Alle la galeen meeshoodii kasii waday, iyo kuwa ballantoodii ka talaabsaday..

Taas hadaan isla rumayno, waxaan usoo gudbayaa tusaalihii aan Jeego ugu tala galay:

Ka waran adigoo macallin galaas arday 30 dhan laguu dhiibo, ee lagu yiraahdo ardadaan sanadka dhamaadkiisa inta aysan imtixaanka galin waxaad ka bixisaa warbixin hordhac ah ee ka hadlaysa xaalada imtixaankooda uu ku sugnaan doono, markaasaad waxaad tiri; ( kani waa "A" Student, kani waa dhexdhexaad, kani waa damiin oo yaa alle ayuu ku gudbi doonaa, kani waa ma gudbi wuu dhici doonaa) maxay tahay awooda aad ku heshay inaad ka bixisaa warbixintaas aad kalsoonida ku leedahay, hadaan anugu ka jawaabo anigoo adiga ku matalahaya waxaan oaran lahaa;

Awooda aan ku helay waxay tahay waxaan ardaydan wax barahayay muddo 7 bilood ahm, waxaan kala garanayaa kan dadaalka badan ee homeworkiisa kasoo shaqeeya, kan saaqidka ah ee wixii waajib ahaa ee lagu ogaa dayacay, marka waxaan idiin sheegi karaa sida ay imtixaanka uga jawaabi doonaan inkastoo aanan wali la bilaabin imtixaanka) Taasi ma waxaan dhihi karnaa macillankan cadaalad ma uusan samaaynin, ama haduuba arrinku ku dhisanyahay warbixin sidaa loo bixiyay ayba dadku rumaysan doonaa, ka waran haduu kii wanaagsanaa isaguna rumaysto fikrad qalad ah, ee uu is yiraahdo war maxaad isla waalaysaa oo aad u dhafarka isugu dilaysaa maadaama wuxuba horay loo sheegi karo, dee iska jiifso adigana. (Laakin ardago ma oga in macalinka aragtidiisu ku xirantahay dadlaalkaas uu ardaygu muujiyay) haduuse ardagu ogaan lahaa sidaa ayada ah, dadaalkiisu wuu sii badan lahaa.

Yaan war idinku daalinin, "Walilaahi Al-Mathalul Aclaa" Maadaama uu Allihii SWT ina abuuray yahay wuxuu cilmigiisii asalagi ahaa ku ogaaday inay dadka sidaa ukala qaybsami doonaan "Shaqi" iyo "Siciid" markaa inaguna inagoo rumaysan qadarka hadana yeeynaan noqon ardaygii dadaalka badnaa ee markuu u arkay macallinka warixintiisii inay si dadban tahay is yiri oo toloow hadiiba arinku sidaa yahay maxaad isu wrareerinaysaa, marka waa inaan sidaa u ogaanaa walaalayaal, yeeysan talada inaga jah wareerin, Allana waa inoo naxariistay maadaama la inaga dhigay Muslimiin.

Neefoow, waasoo hadaafay ee ogoow yaa, 16 hrs aan siisoow saarnaa dhacsaal xuna waa jirtaa marka waakugusoo qararfsiinaa ee sidaa ula soco.

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Warta suuqa

Friday, June 30, 2000 - 05:09 pm
Walaasheey SHE,

Bani aadamka waxa caqliga loo siiyay waa inuu ogaadaa xaqiiqada jirta isagoo isticmaalaya caqligaas. OK.

Ma waxaad rabi lahayd in sidii Nabi Muuse markuu ilaahay ka dalbaday inuu arko si iimaankiisa uu dhamaystirmo la tusaa xaqiiqo iyo mucjiso uu ku rumeeyo ALaah?

Ma waxaad rabi lahayd in sidii Nabi Ibrahim markuu Alle ka dalbaday inuu tusiyaa sida uu wax u nooleeyo ee kolkaas la yiri 4 shimbir soo qaad .... ilaa dhamaystrika sheekada ee aad ka heli kartid (Al Baqara)?

Mise waxaad rabtaa walaaleey si aad xaqiiqada u ogaatid in mucjiso kuu gaar ah lagugu soo dajioyo ka dibna aad rumaysid?

Aniga wali ma garan qof Muslim ah ee Quraan uu horyaalo ee uu ka heli karo su'aal walibuu doono jawaabteeda iyadoo aad u faahfaahsan, waxa kale ee uu rabo inuu ka fakaro ama uu raadinahayo!!? hadii kale arrinku wuxuu isu badalayaa sida aniga iila muuqato (Aniga ilaahoow kitaabkaan aad soo dajisay kuma qanacsani, caqligayga ayaa ka sareeya hadalkaan aad sheegtay!! si aan u rumeeyo waxa aan u jeedo iyo sida arrimuhu yihiin, waxaan u baahanahay inaan aniga caqligayga kugu soo helo adoon waxba ii sheegin)? sidaa ayaana igu kaliftay inaan iraahdo caqliga bani aadamka xad ayuu leeyahay uusan dhaafi karin, saa caqligaas rabigii abuuray ayaa Quraankana soo dajiyay.

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NeefoowKaniini

Friday, June 30, 2000 - 05:39 pm
,,,,,,Warta Suuqa Fariintaada waan helay oo like half an hour camal aan soo noqonayaa oo guriga haddaan ka baxayaa oon dib u soo noqon!!!!!Qararaf soo dheh hee Abtigiis!!!!!!...


She welli waan isku beyri la'ahayoo iska Agnostic welli Xaqiiqa raadis baan isu heystaa Confuse kana waa iska jiraa dadka oo badidood ama idilkood waa sidey ila tahaye'e,,,,<<<<<<<<^^^^^

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NeefoowKaniini

Friday, June 30, 2000 - 09:05 pm
,,,,Frere Warta Suuqa comment allez vous?


je te dis je reviens dans 30 minute a la maison, je attendais ton telephone ,,,je voulez te parle l'aiffair de Dieu ou la relation entre Dieu et l'homme!!!!!!Athe et croyant!!!!!!je crois je appartiens pas les deux!!!!!!!

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mudaneh

Saturday, July 01, 2000 - 01:02 am
she,
laga yaabee in aad iska jeceshahay,muran aan macno ku fadhiyin,dood raadinta,caayda iyo faankaba,waxaas oo dhan waxay ka mid yihiin waxyaabaha muujinaayo shaqsiyadaada, dadnimadaada,iyo waxa aad tahay oo dhan,inta aan soo sheegay waad noqon kartaa adigoo u adeegsanaayo dhanka wanaagsan, laakiin marka arimi ay joogto diinta,waxay ku wanaagsan tahay wixi shaki kaagalo ama aadan fahmin afka inta furato inaad tiraahdo yaa wax igu dhaamo?sidaas baa wax iga yihiine,haddii aadse dhanka xun aad u adeegsato oo aad welibo indho adeeg ku darto ma wanaagsano, aduun iyo aakhirana kala badan ee adigoo aduunkaada wato aakhiradaadana u shaqeeyso,
meesha ay malaaiktu ka tahay askarta ilaah,bini aadam ka maxay kula tahay in ay noqonayaan,sharaf dheeraad ah ayeey u noqon lahayd.
by the way,
nasaqaad waa tir-tirid.
marka ilaah ina yiraahdo dhig diintan ee tan qaado waa amar,anaguna askbar beeynu nahay,intaas caqligaada miyuu ku siin kari waayay?
karaamada ha iska qaadin.
ogoowneh anigu kuma caayin,haddii ay dhacdo in aad i caaydaneh aniga laga ma yaabo in aan kula caaytamo ee ha iska qasaarinin.

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coolman.

Saturday, July 01, 2000 - 04:55 am
Miss She..

<[Unfair: unjust, unreasonable, dishonest, imbalanced, partial, one-sided. ]That is exactly
what I meant when I said God is being unfair! >...

These remarks of yours.. towards Allah subxanah can come only from someone who isn't sure..that someday he or she will meet Allah... and that he or she would be questioned about it...

Quran:

<But we leave those who expect not their meeting with Us, in their tresspasses, wandering blindly in distraction.>10:11...

and in that case, I am not surprised you are able to write what you write about Allah...what is more distractive than addressing Allah with such remarks...?..

<God imposed on us so many religions...>..

This indicates confusion on your part.. for a lack of a better word... all the religions you see around the world had their sources from Allah... but due time became corrupted and deleted... added to..or... faked.... In that case Allah gave people a final message... that satisfies all they require ... spriritually.. a message.. that agrees with the previous messages..a message that guides people.. towards the same god whom generation after generation of people worshipped... but couldn't avoid mix up with other lesser gods... etc etc...

Quran:

<It is He who has sent down the book(Quran) to you(mohammed scw) with truth, confirming what came before it.>..3:3

<Verily, this Quran guides to that which is most just and right and gives glad tidings to the believers. Who work deeds of righteousness, that they shall have a great reward>17:9

<And indeed We have fully explained to mankind, in this Quran, every kind of similitude, but most mankind refuse but disbelief>..17:89

For your info.. and neefoow's... Allah knows and knew.. who will die a believer and a disbeliever ... and where everyone.. will end up as a final resting place for him ... there is a reason Allah created heaven and Hell.. they are there to be aerned.. though heaven is worth more than a simple worship..., Hell is earned by one's attitudes towards the bounderies set forth by Allah.... If one crosses those bounderies.. he will see the results.. without any injustice... and remeber there is no nation in which a warner of hell didn't appear amongst it... Al-Quran..

<It almost bursts up with fury. Every time a group is cast therein, its keepers will ask:"DID NO WARNER COME TO YOU?">

<They will say:"Yes indeed; a warner did come to us, but we belied him and said:"Allah never sent down anything(of revelation), you are only in grave error>67:8.9

And there is wisdom behind one's guidance and astray...

< And if we had willed surely! we would have given every person his guidance, but the word from me took effect(about evil-doers), that I will fill hell with jinn and mankind together> 32:13

<Then taste you because of your forgetting the meeting of this day of yours, (and) surely! We too will forget you, so taste you the abiding torment for what you used to do>32:14

See, the wisdom...?..behind hell..? It is because people wanted to forget about god and life after death... al-jaza'u min jinzil camal...

Allah never punishes people without a warning.. without a message and messenger... and those who are disbelievers are disbelievers because they rejected the covenant they took when they were only souls in Adam's back.... May Allah guide us all to his path and let us die muslimiin.

Sister SHE, I apologize if I sounded harsh or radical.. Hanuunka ilaahey ayaa ku siin kara adiga iyo anigaba kuwa ilaahey iyagoo rumeysan dhinta ha innaga wada dhigo... I am no closer to god than you are If I don't die a muslim trully... It is something I worry about.. dying in a believing state.. because no one owns his future.. and it is better in that case to wish from the master his mercy...

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NeefoowKaniini

Sunday, July 02, 2000 - 12:40 am
,,,,Primo Lulglio Baashaalkayna waaye!!!!!

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TAANO

Saturday, July 15, 2000 - 07:56 pm
KU SOMALI

WAA IDIN SALAAMAY DHAMAANTIIN LAKIN WAXA N KA XUAMAHAY INAAD ISKU HEYSATAAN WAX AAN IDN ANFACEYNIN WAANA TAN RABBI NOOGU CAROODAY OON MEEL KASTA UGU CARRA NAEY DHULKEENINA UU DHIIGA IYO DHAC UGA JIRO GABDHAHEENA [ LOOGU KUFSADO MEELAHA KALA DUWAN ]SIDA KENYA ITOBIYA YAMEN
XATAA EUROP NOORD AMERICA MARKA WALAALAYAL WAXAA ILA FIICAN SIDAN U XALIN LAHEYN DHIBAATDA NA HEYSA OON UGU NOQON LAHEYN WADAN KEENA
NABEDGALYO

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cabdi dheere

Saturday, July 15, 2000 - 08:18 pm
war ma ogtihiin rasuulkeenni inuu yiri eray ciyaar loo yiri ayaa qof naarta ku galaatiya toddoobaatan sano. wixi aad ka hadleysaan hanoqdo wax aad ka bixi kartaan aqoon loo leeyahay dooddiinna haka dhigina waqti lumis ee constructive wax laga faaiideysto loo soo xiiso ha noqoto.

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do i care

Monday, July 17, 2000 - 07:49 am
in oneday the americans killed 700 people in their search for general aidaiid let alone how many more others were killed by the so called humanatarains in somalia i.e the italians'belgiums'exetra exetra while we waste our energy debating and mourning the death of the very same people who cheat us killed us (not just by bullets)stole our money hold our country contenent down enslaved our own people still enslave us under the commandments of the world bank,IMF sell us weapons to fuel the civil wars all over our poor contenet (dont u ppl watch TV hunger poverty and now aids is the picture they framed for africa ,ibet you the very german guy they killed was out ther to harm or mislead the innocent somalis.i heard this from someone who recently came from nothern somalia that this german aaid worker spent 6months of the year on vacation and only went passing throght the town he was ought to be working at few times and when a local person confronted him and demanded that this german guy does his duty and employes the locals he didnt thats why he got killed and you know what it doesnt hurt my feelings that a german,french italian etc dies when i see the people of my contenent suffering and dieing endlesslly .yet again we see people on this page who are so worried about the death of an oppressor
when are we going to learn our lessons from history!!!!!1when!!!!????
=this is not a matter of faith or religious belief its a matter of injustice inequility
+why didnt south africa houst the 2006 world cup why did the fifa chairman shifted his support for africa in the last minutes=due to a european pressure on him once again they the west tell it to us loud and clear africa dont matter
the united states the world police only intervence in peace keeping missions on the european contenent kosovo,bosnia (lately the US congress approved peace keeping budget for the next year without a single$ for african peace keeping mission -once again the contenant of blacks dont count.
quit frankly he can go to hell for all i care .
malcolm-x said it once before if u see a good whiteman kill him before he turns into a devil

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cabdi dheere

Monday, July 17, 2000 - 09:50 pm
ku;do i care
walaal dagaalka aad sheegeyso caqli ayuu u baahanyahay. qaaradda africana meesha ayada ayaa is dhigtey inta dadkeeda iyo madaxdeeda ay u geysteen ayaa ka badan inta caalamka kale kasoo gaartey. baahidi iyo dagaalki ka dhashay tuugadi hantideeda xadeysey ayaa fursad u siisey nin walba oo dan lahaa in ka fushado wixi la doonana lagu sameeyo. waan aragney nin daacad dalkiisa u ah oo aqoon anfacda leh oo xabsiga lagu silciyo mase arag ninkaas oo loo doorto madaxnimda africa.marka waxaad dad wax la qeybsan kartaa marka aad wax iska dhigto. dadka south east asia dadaalkooda fiiri kan dadka afrika iyo carabta petrolka iskala fadhida ee madaxa looga tumanayo fiiri. marka haddey caddalad iyo siyaasad noqotana ma aha wax waxtar ah hal mindi oo aad kula kuftey hal nin oo shaqaale ah oo u saxiixdey waqti hore inuu waddankaaga ka shaqeeyo diin ahaanna ma bannaana gaalki kasta in la iska dilo. xukun bay kala leeyihiin sida xarbi, mucaahad iyo mukaatab. marka waa in dagaalkaagu meel shareeco ah haystaa laakiin in aan noqonno ma haa kii yiri canug gaal ah oo baaskiil wata ayaan aragney markaasan mindi gelinnay baaskiilkiina qa qaadanney saa waa gaale. ummadda uma baahna dad iska xanaaqa madaxooda sidey ka helaanna yeela waxay u baahantahay dad ka badbaadiya waxa u keenaya in cid walba iska biliqeysato una furto rajo wax qabsi iyo barasho aqoon u kordhisa isku tashi waxqabsi.

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Anonymous

Thursday, July 20, 2000 - 07:36 pm
coolman thanks for all ur explaination ,u really did good work and i enjoyed all ur commend .
salaama

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Anonymous

Monday, July 31, 2000 - 11:49 pm
MAC here

Do I Care
I note an interesting contradiction in your observations. You start by complaining about the violence of American intervention in Somalia then subsequently complain that the Americans are only willing to intervene in European affairs. Now the reason that Americans are using a lot of force in Kosovo and Bosnia right now is because no one is shooting at us (at least not much). If they do be assured we'll tear them a new •••••••. Whether or not you like it, the West (Europe and America) holds most of the cards. The IMF is going to attach strings to its loans - you don't have to take them. Military intervention is going to resist force ith more force. Lastly, simply blaming all of Africas problems on the white man is shallow and inaacurrate.

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do i care-no

Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 04:22 pm
anonymous mac or whoever you're i must admit i agree with your last comment we africans souldnt be blaming our problems on whites.but other than that your overall opinion is simply-american arrogance-i see where you're coming from uncle sam's boy...let me remind you of something you've might overlooked this is the somalinet its for somalis .we somalis dont appreciate it when foriegners come to us and try to push their stupid nonsense upon us..got it mr.
ohh one more thing i forget to mention (i dont care if the entire world is goverend by america or the west as long they dont try to mess with us somalis we'll be more than happy to drag'em down the streets.

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Anonymous

Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 10:33 pm
MAC HERE. STILL HAVING AUTHENTICATION PROBLEMS

Do I care - no
Ahhhh, the gauntlett is thrown down. According to Somali net administator, Somalinet is for everyone, not just Somalis. You need to check the rules of engagement.
Secondly, reference the dragging of bodies issue. You will remember that a Sharia Court in Mogadischu gave prison sentances to some of the offenders in the body dragging incidents. Desecrating the dead, even gaal dead, is a crime according to the Qur'an.
Coolman, you want to get in on this? What do you think here?

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Amadeou

Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 04:43 pm
MAD MAC;

Boy ! You 've no idea how much it makes me happy to see you showing your true colors. By the way did you ever listen to Phily Collins's "your true colors" by any chance? Yeah! it didn't take long you to utter such words.
"The IMF is going to attach strings to its loans - you don't have to take them. Military intervention is going to resist force ith more force." does it?. I knew you were another arrogant stupid white trash trying to hang out with us only because you needed to uplift your low self esteem. And yeah! being outcast from white american community of course the only way of making your misery life little bit interesting, you 've no many options left but to abuse one poor Thai and to hang out poor somalis. Boy ! weren't we nice to you before you blew it up all by showing "your true colors".

amadeou

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do i care-hell no

Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 07:40 pm
Damn right amadeou-I couldn't agree with you more bro,
MAD MAC (I believe you're mad)why don't you take a hike=you...........are............not...........welcome..................here.

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somalikkk

Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 08:59 pm
MAD MAC (white wanna be) i'm going back to my homeland notheren somalia somaliland so if u're man enough like u wanna be jack ass,meet moi there.and i'll show u who is da man boyyyyy.

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Anonymous

Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 10:48 pm
MAC HERE

Somalikkk
Sorry abowe. Somaliland is too damn hot. And I don't know anyone there anyway. But if you want to meet on neutral ground, say in Germany, pound for pound baby, I can hang with anyone.
DIC-HN
Maybe I am Mad. Or Maybe I see things with a clarity other people lack.
Amadou
You make it sound as if my party line has changed. Clearly you have not been following MAC in the forumss.

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SOMALIKKK

Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 11:41 am
TO:MAD BITCH

GERMANY HUH THE ARYANS LAND NOP I"LL PASS LETS MEET SOMEWHERE WERE THERE'RE BLACKS AND WHITES JUST INCASE ANY1 OF US NEEDS A BACKING UP IF THE OTHER TEAM TRIES TO INTER THE CONFLICT,SINSE U R TOO CHICKEN TO COME TO SOMALILAND HOW ABOUT LA,DETRIOT,BROOKLYN,ATLANTA.......OOH I FORGET THEY'RE NOT SOMALIS THEY'RE DECENDANTS OF SLAVES NOT FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE BRAVE HEARTS LIKE US SOMALIS OTHERWISE THEY WOULD'VE LIBERATED THEMSELVES FROM MENTAL AND PYSHICAL SLAVERY THAT STILL EXIST IN AMERICA .IF U EVER DECIDE TO MEET ME SOMEWHERE WHITE TRASH LET ME KNOW .

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MAD MAC

Monday, August 07, 2000 - 01:30 am
SomaliKKK
Based on your handle it would appear that you are now living in the States. If we can narrow the geogrphic location a little a meeting might yet be arranged. I'll be back in the States next year for a few weeks. If you want to meet in Africa it will have to be in Nairobi for now.

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Gaal- Jecel

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 01:31 am
Thumbs up,4 Mad Mac, Cabdi-dheere, Taano.

Thumbs down,Amadeou, Do I Care, SomaliKKK.

Fyi,Mad Mac is always welcome in Somalia, as long as I live.
SomaliKKK, you want what? to fight with Mad Mac? The guy could break your neck with a matter of a seconds,you are gone bye bye. The guy is trained to kill. Need I say he could kill Hundreds of you with out blinking.
Consider your self as Dead man Walking. Please do write your will or give up, we know you will not win the fight. Alaya Raxma

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MAD MAC

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 01:51 am
Gaal-Jecel
Probably hyberbole, but you are correct that I have been trained in the fighting arts. Kampo Karate for five years and Golden Gloves boxing for 9 years. I like to fight so I found sports where I could channel the energy in a positive way. But I am a good boy now and avoid street fights and other unsavory social behavior. I mean I'm an Army Officer, I can't be doing stuff like that anymore.
Somalia Rules!!!!

FYI I've got a new E-Mail address for anyone who wants to mail me:
iikorpsg2of@hq.c5.army.mil
I know it changes a lot. I stay on the move due to work.

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analyzer

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 02:52 am
mad....
you damn right somalia rules!!!!!!!

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Gaal-Jecel

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 03:24 am
SomaliKKK,

Aha! What did I tell ya? Better run my Arrow looking brother.I know Mad Mac can beat the living garbage out of ya!

Do not get me wrong aboow, I am only trying to save your life. Me don't like to loose somali brother, even if he is narrow minded like you.

MAD MAC,
Check your E-mail aboow


Caio

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somalikkk

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 10:09 am
GAAL-GACEL BITCH&MAD BITCH
First of all I'm not an arrow looking unlike u i lift weight's bitch,I'm not a black belted mad mac and i doubt u're too.Other than that have a brave heart that could do whatever it take's to win a fight and that's no joke i;ve never ever lost a fight i always' win know why?simple answer=I don't like losing it kill's me to lose a fight especially when it come's to white's boy Loved beating the living crab outta'em ooooh i use to love it-------gaal-gacel no wonder there's alway's a race trater within every race u probably a woman who want's a cadan dick i don't blame ya i personally like fucken white women i always' do but i have no love for their race like u do.........................mad mac i said enough if u wanna a fair fight let's meet in the presence of my tribe member's (they're the only 11111 i trust).

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Gaalkacyo

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 03:15 pm
Gaal_jecel= SHE
waa sharmuutadii MAD_Dog ka daba naageeyn jirtay
dhilo gaalka ha ku fugo
SHE you are dead hoe

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Xoogsade

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 07:01 pm
Guys don't believe the hype about American soldiers. They are the biggest pussies in the whole world. Did you see that documentary of the firefight in Muuqadisho. They were crying and hysterical like little girls holed up in that house. I wish the camera could pick up the smell too. I am sure most of them dirtied their pants or is that panties he he he. And the Somalis they were walking without care while the bullets were flying.

And how about the Vietnamese and how they took the American's lunch money. There are still to this day tens of thousands of American soldiers who are living in terror, tormented by memories of the cunning little yellow man.

Now they are terrified of stepping off their warships and planes in case they have to go nose to nose with the likes of Somalis, the craziest bunch of desperate villains and homicidal maniacs the good lord has ever put on earth.

Btw: Have you guys seen Rudy on Survivor. This guy is supposed to be Mr Seal, the guy who started up and trained supposedly the toughest commando unit in the whole world. And he couldn't even start a FUCKIN FIRE for crying out loud. I learned that when I was a wee lad during the school break when we would go north into the country.

PURE HYPE.

DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE.....

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MAD MAC

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 10:48 pm
Xoogsade
A wise man told me early in my training that there are no supermen - just smart men and stupid ones. The soldiers of Task Force Ranger, taken as a whole. were reasonably well trained. But about half of them were very young (about 19) with no practical experience. The other half, though, were very tough, very well schooled, and killed lots of Gedirs that day. You are correct, sometimes the hype is out of proportion. But the US Army is well trained and man for man can go with any Army in the world. I've served with lots of forweign troops, and the only ones I've met so far who matched ours were the Brits. The Germans sometimes come close but they haven't invested the money to really train properly. The French and Malaysians have their moments. The Somalis are brave enough, but they're not well trained, have no concept of combined arms operations, and only a few of their leaders understand operational art. Because everything there is done in a decentralized manner that can be a big disadvantage.
Somalikkk
OK, so lets narrow the geographic area? If I were to guess I would say you are living in Minneapolis of Virginia - unless you're not in the States. Then I'd guess Toronto. But these are only guesses. Can you narrow this down? I only weigh 125 pounds, should be easy for a big tough weight lifter. And I'm white American. Ask Xoogsade, they can't fight a lick. And you can have any clan there you like. Just make sure you invite an equal number of Abgal - my traditional friends.

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MAD MAC

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 11:44 pm
Oh yeah, Xoogsade, I forgot to add this part (You should read Black Hawk Down by Mark Bowden). At one point in the night one of the wounded Rangers was in the back and start whining "We're all gonna die. We're not going home." Sgt Randy Ramaglia turned around and said "Just shut the •••• up!" And that silenced the guy.
There was another case where Ramaglia (who was shot in the shoulder but continued to fight) was being loaded aboard a MEDEVAC bird and the MEDAC said to him "Man, I feel sorry for you all." Ramaglia replied "You should feel sorry for them, because we whipped ass!" You see Xoogsade, while the American people look at the battle of 3/4 October as a defeat, MOST (not all) of those who fought there know better. We were defeated politically by Aideed, not militarily. Our political leadership quit when the soldiers were prepared to stay the course. One more big fight and Aideed would have been finished. He had neither the resources nor could he have maintained a political backing that would allow the destruction of his clan. The reason for this was because his objectives were rooted in self-aggrandizement. Any sentient observer in Somalia knew that Aideed was in it for Aideed. The Haber Gedir elders were not going to allow the clan to be wiped out so that Aideed could be president. Cooler heads were eventually going to previal if we kept up the pressure.
Of course, Aideeds victory was phyric. It cost him too much in resources. When we left he was never able to dominate even the Abgal in Mogadischu.
And as for Vietnam, there are plenty of Vietnamese who are shell shocked as well. The problem in Vietnam is that the bad guys won - or maybe not. Maybe there were only bad guys to start with. In any case, like the SNA victory, the Vietnamese victory was phyric as well. What do they have for their great victory? Individual freedoms are limited, economic decline, etc, etc.

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analyzer

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 12:11 am
mad head still trying to advertise your products to us....oh please.."SHE" might buy since siad barre hooked her up, but i don't think i can afford your heightened prices....i can shop at the family dollar store $1.00 for everything and my house can be free of Madmac products ...
dude, your commercials are lame. haven't you learned anything from marketing 101 dummy, Always identify with your audience....your audience here are Somalis.....

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MAD MAC

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 12:59 am
Analyzer
In person I can be very persuasive. Besides - I'm right and most of the Somalis here on the net know it, they just hate to admit that a gaal might have something to offer. Anyway, I'll stick with being right as opposed to the machievellian commercial sales approach. And don't get me wrong - from a commercial standpoint I don't for a minute think that US products are the be all and end all. There's lots of inexpensive quality products being produced in all sorts of places. I support the free market everywhere. Better for all of us.

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