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DOES THE DJIBOUTI CONFERENCE HAVE LEGITIMACY?

SomaliNet Forum (Archive): General Discusions: Archive (May 2000 - August 2000): DOES THE DJIBOUTI CONFERENCE HAVE LEGITIMACY?
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Abdi

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 03:20 am
For someone to for a government for the Somali people he must be have legitimacy to so. A lot of people have been invited to the conference depending on the whims of the Djibouti government. Are these people in Djibouti the representatives of the people of SOMALIA? How and who has chosen them to represent our views? Will any decisions or conclusions be legitimate to be followed? The fact that they have been promised by the UN to get recognition for any government they form mean that we can take any government to be our government as long as it is recognised by the UN?

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CEELAABE CAABIYE

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 04:03 am
abdi,

I hope that you'll replay my comments in somali!!!

waa marka horee walaal siyaad bare cayayaankiisu way dhaamaan kuwan (warlords)aan talona keenayn talona raacayn

waa mida koowaade 10 sano ayaa malaayiin soomaaliyeed ay dibada sidii trash oo kale ay xooran yihiin inta dhimatay warkeeda daa. hadaba hadii ay kuwan siyaad bare u shaqayn jiray ay dawlad dhisaan ma waxay kula tahay in wixii hore ay jirayaan well,umalayn maayo.mase dhaamaan in aad qaxooti ahaato next 100 yrs. igamana aha naflacaari ama desperate ee waa xeeladaha waayaha in mar uun wadanku helo lugo lagu istaago ileen wax walbaba waayahaa naftigeeda ayaa keeni doonee.

afeef, waxaan dadka kale ee soomaaliyeed ogaysiinayaa jawaabta ama commentskaagu noqdo af somali ileen cadawgu waa iska badan yahay

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Abdi

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 04:56 am
Ceelaabe
Thanks for you reply to my eirlier comments. You are suggesting that the FOUNDATION of a future somali gvernment should be based on people who were working hand in hand with the former regime and you are fully optimistic that they would not repeat the mistakes they did before. I am sorry to say i dont beleive in any such a foundation or any weak foundation to resolve the problems of somalia be it reffugee or otherwise. Wont we be burying our heads in the sand when we allow a government without a strong foundation with a higher chance of future conflict?

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Nuur

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 05:37 am
I think these people are represented each one of us regardless of what we think. These are the reason why I think they are forming a government on our behave:
1 They gave their time and money to get there.
2 They showed how they want our innocent people to be save.
2. they seem to be puting nation and the people interest ahead of their own.
I would also add that not all Somalis like this but these diffenences can be resolve. Even these people have nothing against forming government but they don't like how the Jabouti trying to solve the problems between Somalis. These people who hesitated to support this should be attracted too because without them the issue may not be result. Some may have group,regional,and tribal problems with Jobouti but realy want Government. It won't make any different if the UN recognize or not but what make differnt is how Somalis agree on one thing, form a government.

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Observer

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 06:48 am
Djibouti Conference: Is it legitamate? In my eyes, yes it is to a degree. Many, many people have attended and they are trying to make peace. However, I am dissapointed in the makings of this conference. First, so far the only thing that has been decided is on behalf of the people of Somaliland (regardless of their believes) is that the Unity of PAN-SOMALIA is binding. How arrogant! Furthermore, Somalia is being resuscitated with the help of those who have 5 stars in demolishing the land and people of Somaliland (ie GANI who is a member of a committee that has just been formed). It looks like SOMALIA will get its government and something positive might come out of Djibouti, but at the expense of who? At the expense of the people of SOMALILAND, and it seem SOMALIA has not repented and is contiuning its hostility and adding insult to injury. WHAT A SAD CALLAMITY!

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NeefoowKaniini

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 10:20 am
,,,,maya,,,

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Xaali

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 11:00 am
Observer, what about the wishes of those Somalilanders who are present at the conference....Just curios??

In my opinion, we need to assess what the alternatives are? The Djibouti conference at this time seems to be the lesser of two evil options:-
1)potential for Tribal-based adminstration or
2) anarchy spearheaded by warlords and busnisessmen mecercenaries.

If we don't have a better solution than the Djibouti Conference, then we should accept the lesser of the 2 evils, rather than endure another 10 years of misery. At least, we will have a sembalance of a nation-state, albeit mini ones; and can work on it to improve to the level of a federal system based on democratic principles.

Are there other rational solutions to the mess that is Somalia? A rational solution that will make every Somali MAN happy????

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Mohamed

Monday, June 26, 2000 - 02:12 pm
the djibouti conference is very pivotal point in modern political somali history in whole we should support it and I'm invited all somali to supprt it and leave the past behinde us we should sacrifice for our beloved country then put all the war criminal behinde the bars.long live somalia long live somalia long live somalia

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CEELAABE CAABIYE

Tuesday, June 27, 2000 - 04:44 am
abdi,

marka hore,

1-waxa weeye soomaaliya ma sidan hada ay tahay baa udan ah oo in markaa aanu war lord slave noqono next 100th of years.

2-ma inta dowlad dhisan weyno la ina liqo which means (Ethiopia) midiyaheeda soofaysan iyo inagoo cad hilib oo jilicsan oo miis saaran ah.

3-mase dhaantaa what ever means neccessary oo cilmiyeysan in aan dawladnimo ku gaarno kii danbiila ahaa iyo kii dgagar soomaaliyeed qabay waqtiga loo daayo

arinta waqooyi iyo koonfur isu keenideeda ay u baahan tahay diolog aad u qoto dheer iyo kafiirsasho maarayn wanaagsan leh,sabatoo ah huu haa iyo propogand caano dhay ah lisi maayaan ee waa lagu sii kala foogaan. marka cabdi walaal xaajadaydu waa taa ee ha u malayn in aan ku qanacsanahay inay the fathers of distruction and genocide of somalia aan ku qanacsanahay ee waxaad ogaataa in qoraxdu mar un soo baxdo mar una ay dhacdo.

salaamu calaykum

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WORRIER

Tuesday, June 27, 2000 - 05:45 am
WHAT EVER HAPPENDS IN DJIBOUTI WON'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO SOMALILAND, COS WE WON'T LET IT HAPPEND AGAIN!!!!!

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Somalilander

Tuesday, June 27, 2000 - 06:38 am
The blood of my people was not shed in vain. We will defend the Rights of Somaliland. We wish you the best in your efforts to find peace in other parts. Do not interfere with our affairs. If you dont respect that we will have no other alternative but to fight, we are ready to die for Somaliland. Make No mistake. Our wish is Peace, but we are ready for anything.

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NeefoowKaniini

Tuesday, June 27, 2000 - 08:20 am
Somalilander,

You scared me man "blood and war again". What the hell you talking about Somaliland as sovereign state that is impossible. You must be dreaming or hallucination, my advise to you is don't get very excited. Why do you have to create a new hostilities it is just matter of time. We will come one day and knock your door and ask you to obey our government in Mogadisho and you can do nothing about that. Cagah dhulka dhig.. "naxana nazalnaa al dikra wa ileyhu raa jicuun"

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Fasal

Tuesday, June 27, 2000 - 08:53 am
NeefoowKaniini

You make me laugh man

But seriously we are ready to kick your asses BIG TIME!!
don't forget it won't be the first time
And this time we will get rid of for good

Don't wake up the sleeping lion he may kill you

Peace

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Fasal

Tuesday, June 27, 2000 - 09:08 am
About Somaliland administration , every clan has control over their administration (economic, judiciairy) and their police on their land , elected memebers in the parliamant , they have members in the government
The Awdal region became more prospere than ever in the history
I advice you to read the SL Constitution on www.somalilandforums.com in english or somali
And use it as an example , Somalilanders are not your ennemies , you are own ennemies make peace among you and with your immediats neighbours and then you can talk about Somaliland

Peace

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NeefoowKaniini

Tuesday, June 27, 2000 - 02:03 pm
,,,,,,,waar Anigu maahi ninka meesha isku soo xardhay hana ii jawaabinna oo magacaygu maahan mana ahan ninkan cadaawadda u qaba reer isxaaq iyo reer waqooyi,,,,,,,,geddigoodba anigu meel baan ka taaganahay waxan baas ee lala ordahayo shirkan Jabuuti ,,se dekaddii Boosaasaan kala hagi la'ahay wixii shaqo u soo doontay iyo shaqaalihii magacyadooda saan u kala qori lahaa...inagunna aanu kala nasano oo waxoogaa isu soo xiisno waa saan jecelahaye,,,,,,

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Anonymous

Thursday, July 27, 2000 - 04:54 am
there is no somalilanders, there is somaliland
there is somalia there is somalis even p.p.l. in jubuti are somalis get it.

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Dunya

Friday, July 28, 2000 - 12:37 am
Somalilander and fasal,
Dont you learn from history brothers, dont you see that we can avoid repeating it , because we suffered the consequences already.
Dont you realize its time we live peacefully and settle this matter once and for all.
You are here , sitting on your computer somewhere in the states, europe or canada , while you could have sat in your own coutry called somalia.
But with narrow-minded people such as yourselves, whom only think of revenge and more bloodshed our children are forgetting their culture and language as they are raised out of their own home, will they then return, will they then return to build a whole nation that still didnt rise in this competitive world we are living in.I think not.
If you take one stick and bend it.. it will break for sure ,because its weak ,,,but if you take a handfull , it will remain firm and strong. We should all stick together as somalies , never divided clans, or we shall never prosper, and that hostility will remain and worsen all through eternity.
You think we are more like oil and water , that we wont mix if we reunite, think again , we have the same culture , language and religion what more do you want.

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Dunya

Friday, July 28, 2000 - 12:43 am
neefowkanini ..the same goes to you bro ...
Allah (c.w) nazal al thiraa not your goverment bro. Wake up , God doesnt approve with brothers fighting for a name(clan) or a land.You have the right to fight for 3 things , your religion, your land(from non-belivers)and your life.

Salaam

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