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Marcus Roscher

Sunday, July 16, 2000 - 06:16 am
Dear People of Somalia

I am a German native and participated in UNOSOM in 1993.
Our area of service was Belet Weyne, the "Great Town".
There couldn't be any success in that mission, not due to Somalia's hostiles against some nations involved, but rather because of the lack of respect and understanding for the culture of somalia by these nations. Till now I mostly don't understand myself what is going on and why.
But what I do know is that this lack of sensitivity, to be found in most of Western nations, caused the desasters during UNOSOM "peace-keeping" mission.
Now, nearly 6 years after the withdraw of all UN forces, there might be a chance for a new beginning in Somalia.
I don't want to claim the right to judge the current peace talks in Djibouti.
But I wish for all people in your country that there are reasonable and appropriate results, creating a base for a more peaceful future that satisfies everybody, regardless which clan he belongs to.

Kind Regards

Marcus Roscher, Germany

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Nationalist

Sunday, July 16, 2000 - 01:42 pm
It was very nice of you to care about somalia because I never met german who care about africa or any other country in the third world if you participated in UNSOM that is for own interest.
The west never care about africa or any other muslim country.so please keep your ideas for germany because we dont need them here.I kindly request you to do not intefer with our internal policy.
Nationalist

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Basra

Sunday, July 16, 2000 - 06:18 pm
Nationalist

You speak for yourself aboowe,i personally think the guy has expressed good intetions regardless of his nationality.I would assume a responisble reactions from a well good wisher is to remark a Thank you.Do not assume to speak of somali nation and people in general simply because your forrum I.D states you area a nationalist.Shameful,wallahi!Shameful!
Marcus

Thank you for your concerns and well wish.Unlike many, i for one-express my deeepest gratitudes!

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Xoogsade

Sunday, July 16, 2000 - 06:52 pm
Deuthcheland uber alles, svei kertoofel dassis alles.

sorry about the spelling but you get the meaning all the same. So Mr. Rossler or whatever your name is, get your ass back to eating your sauerkrauts and stuff your face with pig sausage cause you are not wanted here Mr Nazi Scum.

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notbychoice

Sunday, July 16, 2000 - 07:33 pm
How the hell can u tell another person to get out of this "somalian chat"?Nigger(and I used this litteraly) didn't I already thought u a lesson?I'll repeat for your third grade education ass...IF U DON'T LIKE A POSTING-DON'T ANSWER IT! plain and simple.

note: the person(marcus) actually met good attention!

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Xoogsade

Sunday, July 16, 2000 - 07:41 pm
What lesson was that? That you like taking a dick up your ass?

Maybe you are trying to pick up this jack-booted Nazi so he can Aryan dick up your ass? Knock yourself out motherfucker, but don't bring it in here. It offends our moral sensibilities, we are very moral you see, we Somalis!!!

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notbychoice

Sunday, July 16, 2000 - 08:08 pm
somalis will be moraly capable when pics fly! may I remind that moraly conscience pple will never put other pp;e's opinion and remarks, specially if it has nothing to do with your IGNORANT, dumb ass country nigger

I can stress enough about your level of IGNORANCE..

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oldSchool

Sunday, July 16, 2000 - 08:43 pm
Basra :

And how much i hate you! what is your f_cking point here?. We don't need a F_cking and freaking German gaal telling us bulshit. And we aren't expecting any sympathy from any European. And that is why i am telling you Nationalist was damn right.

i know you are entitled your opinion but i wished if you keep it to yourself because simply you are too liberal for us and you are little gaal wanabe every time i see you.

In another thread, you said in Virginia there is no racism. What a lies!.And you are advocating for interraciala marriage.
I am sorry if i was harsh on you but please see what the otehr guys said. They all agreed on to this gaal except the gay guy. And i know where this gay is comming from.

OldSchool.

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notbychoice

Sunday, July 16, 2000 - 08:57 pm
oldshit.....oops oldshcool

enlight me oldshit! I don't know where I'am
coming from.....and I guess u would?
I am amazed about the amount of time I hear people saying GAAL wannabe. I'm sorry but if we don't all confine in your culturaly twisted behaviour where most of your dads drink and beat on your moms while you are horsing on one of your younger cousin.....all in while you're preaching about the meaning of real ISLAM.

note:check you're own backyard..you'll be surprised on how GAAL you're turning...

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Basra

Monday, July 17, 2000 - 03:34 am
You people are disgusting.Totally disgusting.I didn't say i liked Gaaal or whatever.But if someone wished my country well,my only reactions would be saying thank you.Stop this Bigoted attitudes with disgust intentions.uuuuufeey!

Oldschool,i'm not liberal,not gaal and dont care.

Xoogsade,can u stop becoming so outspkonely filthy!

notbychoice: i have read your post and sorry,i think faggots are disgusting.Read Quran,may God help you.Uuuuuuffey!!

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Oldschool

Monday, July 17, 2000 - 04:53 am
NotBychoice:

I am sorry sxb but being proud nomadic and close to the nature, i find being fagot means "nin facaa ahi ha ku waso". Does that sound good? i guess not. YUCK!
case closed.

Basra;

Normally women are more liberal and light hearted than men. And maybe that is our differences But that doesn't make you overlook and sympathize for this stupid red-necked and Neo-nazi bastard coming here to show false sympathy like we do care. Please read his comments. We only give him a gratitude if he is volunteering info and how they mistreated our people. but he is not doing that. he is making "daacdaacsi". Dearest,i don't have anything against you. but you are too fast on us.

And honestly speaking if i rule somalia and i see you having such views of pro-gaal, i would detained you . But too bad i am here sitting on my ass in somewhere in the wild wild west and you are there cressing your ass on a sova somewhere in Virginia.;-).

Please stop seeking for an acceptence from others. Here on planet earth, no one cares the others. And stop putting this big "Hey i am nice girl" attitude on your face. no one gives a f....
You are disgrace and you got all those mud on your face.lol.

done deal.

OldSchool

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Basra

Monday, July 17, 2000 - 06:21 am
Oldschool

First before i go on attacking you,i'll have to refute your insunuations feverntly!I am not Pro-gaal-i'm pro-stupidity abolishment.Clearly you are more superior in stupidity than mind.I can't help it but pity.Secondly,i'm not liberal or whatever political term you throw at me.Save that for another forrum under the title 'voluntary politics with a touch of amateurism'!!!!thirdly you do not know me so dont you ever 'ASSUME i portray a 'hey i'm a nice girl face'.I have known that one cannot act oneself,but only improve oneself.I have no doubt i am a good nice girl with high esteem and composure,so your words only indicate your self de-energizing deprications.
On the topic of attacking you:I personally think:You are a product of an old school with old education and old doctrination and old brain cells and old dann incompatence in having an objective sense of presentations.You only find solace in others discomforts and create an atmosphere that favors your ill infested mind that make me wanna puke!....And puke!!!!!!!Ufeeey!

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Anonymous

Monday, July 17, 2000 - 08:47 am
hey u know that german they killed in n.somalia
goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
one nazi down millions to go
it makes me wonder why somaliwomen are compasionate towards foriegnmen
nower days its all about the different kind of dick excuse me ppl

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shukri

Monday, July 17, 2000 - 09:43 am
Hey old school, what is all this????
I live in Virginia, and it is full of red necks
Go easy you slackyard!!!

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Sumaya

Monday, July 17, 2000 - 11:21 am
Salaama Caleykum

To: Basra

Abaayo was waiting you please email me soon Insha Allaahu.
sumaya24@yahoo.com

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FAHAD

Monday, July 17, 2000 - 01:18 pm
OLD SCHOOL AND BASRA YOU TOO ARE REALLY GREAT AND WE NEED YOUR POWER SO PLEASE DON'T WEST IT BETWEEN YOU.

BY THE WAY I'M WADANI AGAINST ANY ENTEFARING OUR INTERNAL POLICY AT THE SAME TIME I THANK ANY BODY WHO'S NICE TO ME WITH BEE'ING SMART.

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Xoogsade

Monday, July 17, 2000 - 01:28 pm
Yeah Basra and Old School why are you fightin I don't understan.....

Basra:

I am a good clean livin hooman bein but sick perverts like NotbyChoice and lovergirl always keep provokin me with their dirtiness and you gotta fight fire with fire somatimes. That is why you see me spewing all that filthiness and on this one I know I am right which is why you will never see me apologizin for it.

And I don't like foreigners cause it is their misfortune not to be Somali; it is not my fault god made them dirty foreigners.

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OldSchool

Monday, July 17, 2000 - 11:35 pm
Basra:
You know what? i rest my case for two reasons.
First your english forces me to chain my Oxford dictionary on to my wrist.
Nevertheless,my dictionery isn't doing the job. I am here desperate trying to understand what the heck you are trying say.

Second, many people here suggested there was not much to fight except one red-necked neonazi German whom you have grattitude while i don't.


But hey i grant you one credit for dissing the fagot. And you made me smile!.


Shukri:

Is that you slack?. Long time no see! how come?. are still in your cocoon afraid of it may crack !ahahahha.

About virginia and racism, Basra was the one who was preaching thet Gospel of the truth. One time she stormed at the stage and snatched the microphone and crooned "heleluja ... And Lord , the jesus chirst said!, "In Virgina, there shouldn't being racism" ". Hey i can't get the rythm of her preach but i guess you got what i am getting at. And i having some vendetta against her clan you can guess how much I am glad she was get caught lying you know dear;-). thanks for the
the tip lol.
and slackyard, have a nice day/night . And hey don't hesitate to holla at me when you see me passing by on the streets on Maryland. I am always the guy in red shirt and always seem on all geared up and on the go.:-).
OldSchool.

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Basra

Tuesday, July 18, 2000 - 04:56 am
LOL...Oldschool! Its about time you enroll in NewSchool...LOL!!!
Hi Xoogsade..LOL

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Dangarad

Tuesday, July 18, 2000 - 07:04 am
my dear respected bro and sis
asalaamu calaykum..


TO::: Basra

sis i agree with ya 100% sis, but our bro don't understand the expression that he has given us. sis you'll not find a german who would talkin' abut special our homeland,but he has to be suprise what is goin' on our homeland sis. He might seen how social ppl we are and couldn't beleive what we are doin' and until now.

those bro don't undertand or don't know how to say thank ya sis for somebody else. I think it is very hard for them to say that..

When i see a bro who is not sayin' "thank" i don't feel guilty anyway, i just feel sorry for that person.

old father said that "gaalkana dil gartiisa sii""
if he said that he real wish the conference of dj' would come out some result, then we say thank ya no matter who he is ..sis

don't listen to those ignorence sis

asalaamu calaykum.

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shukri

Tuesday, July 18, 2000 - 08:58 am
Hi Oldschool, when the choice is between a cocoon and the jungle, I prefer the cocoon...I am a creature of comfort.

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Anonymous

Tuesday, July 18, 2000 - 10:17 am
lolshukri cocoon of comforts...sounds delightful!

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mohamed Ibrahim

Tuesday, July 18, 2000 - 10:20 am
Sometimes its funny and sometimes ignominious to see how some people make big deal something which is by nature unessential. Some of you make emotional decisions, which is wrong for so many reasons. Some of you cannot demonstrate nor stigmatize if this guy intervened with internal affairs of Somalia. Whatever he said was purely opinionated and nobody should criticize. On the other hand, only the defeated ones are known to insult. We should all learn manners, I believe we should ask the person politely not to intervene with our internal affairs. If you try to jump higher than you can, you might brake your leg. Lets all cool down.

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Oxford-my-foot

Thursday, July 20, 2000 - 11:22 am
Oldschool what the hell is SOVA ???? its Sofa you Moron, you got the audacity to talk about other peoples english ! pleaseeeeeee !

talk to the hand !

instead of carring around the Oxford maybe you should use it once in a while o.k !

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OldSchool

Thursday, July 20, 2000 - 08:49 pm
Basra:

I am glad that finnally you are laughing out loud. Yet i 've been wondering why should i enroll to newSchool? are you implying i need to be mentually upgraded or do you think to enroll to NewSchool will lower my high milleage?.


Shukri:

It is always nice to see your poetic proses:cocoon that may crack !!creature of comfort!!.I see the rythm.
And yeah, Slackyard,here you are always happy and bubly. I do agree the cocoon is more safe than the jungle. But then if you try to come out it is possible that you may land on the right hands. Who knows?.

Oxford_my_foot:

I do apologise any wrong doing.

OldSchool.

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Basra

Friday, July 21, 2000 - 08:53 am
OLDSCHOOL

I think it will lower your milleage as opposed to the rapid drop of cells that form the 'ignorace'part of human brain function..LOL..Meaning if you enroll in new school,you are highly improving the growth of cells that will become anti-biotics for ingnorace and silly reasonings that result to stupidity..Not that i'm saying you are stupid..but eventually..it will lead to that...i mean in the sweetest heart...considering you are a sweet doll...maac maaac!!...LOL!

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OldSchool

Sunday, July 23, 2000 - 01:08 pm
Basra:

It will? hmmmmmmmmm(head shaking!) i should 've known earlier. But now "waa gaboobee gacal maan kaa gaaraa" hee?.
Once i heard a mad man saying "the term ignorance is only and only be found in Ignorant people's dictioneries". I wonder if he was telling the truth. According to this mad man, everyone knows something and is ignorant about something. No one knows all and no one knows nothing. for that reason no one can be described as ignorant unless one labels ignorant to others.

About enroling to Newschool, i will consider it.

However i was just wondering if you ever considered making investment. If you did, you would have realized that flactuating stocks are considered highly risked ones. And they are described they are the ones that an invester can gain a lot in minutes and can lose alot in minutes, too. And Same goes human emotions. In relationship, you don't want to involve a person whose emotions and moods changes a lot. In fact this is considered sickness. one moment this kind of person yells at you or fights with you . And next moment the person gives you a lot of kissess and hugs.The person shows emotional instability. And i wonder how many of us show that characteristics. Maybe we need professional help who know?.

and me being sweet doll, well I wished if you see me in real life!. i am sure you would have run away or broke your ankles ahahaha.

OldSchool

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Anonymous

Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 02:58 am
As Salam Alekum jalleo

MAD MAC HERE

Well, it's really flying in this room. Genosse, Ich muss meine Meinung teilen. UNOSOM did not fail because of lack of sensitivites. The conflict between the SNA and UNOSOM II was based on Aideeds desire to be the successor to Mohamed Siad Barre. If that were not true then we would not have been greeted in very friendly term by the Hawadle (in Belet Huen), the Abgal, the Murosade, the Rahanweyne, the Darood (I could go on, but you get the point) etc. The mission failed not because we didn't respect Somalis (of course there was some of that, but not a lot) or didn't understand the dynamics of the society - it's not really that complex. This was a question of the SNA wanting to control the future political apparatus of Somalia and the UN forcing compromise. Compromise was not the way of Mohamed Farah Aideed. UNOSOM failed because my political leadership did not have the determination to stay the course and fight the SNA to the finish. Had we done that I submit to you that Somalia would have a government today. It is certainly in vogue to claim that "we didn't understand them" when talking about what happened in Somalia in 93 but the truth is we understood perfectly well what was going on. We just didn't have the cajones to finish the game.

FYI I am an American soldier who fought the SNA in 93 and lived in Somalia for almost a year. I have examined this problem in some detail.

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MAD MAC

Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 11:12 pm
This was an interesting discussion. Anyone else want to get in on it. Hate to see it just die.

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MAD MAC

Tuesday, August 15, 2000 - 02:04 am
What happened to this German guy? I think you guys scared him off.

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