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     | Monday, July 31, 2000 - 06:09 pm O.k....here it is. the thought of actually kissing someone makes me sick..and beleive me i ain't joking....i've turned down guys just because i knew they would want to kiss me. I know everyone is gonna call me "baby" and "immature" and ••••...but the truth is i'm 18 yrs old..so give me a break on that line o.k.??...at first i used to console myself thinking that they don't do it back home, but then i found out that they do it back home too!!!!!!..so tell me, is there something wrong with me????..and who ever is thinking about me being gay and all can go streight to hell. am i alone in this???...let me hear you all.
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| | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 05:40 am Ok so you hate kissing- WOW??? And I should care because.........????????
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| | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 06:25 am are you saying that you do not want to kiss someone, but you will want to do anything else with him? in other word, it is okay for you if the guy touches you and even have sex with you-------but he should not put his lips against your lips?
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| | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 07:25 am Kamal,, Since we both use the same name "Kamal" how about if I use Kamal#1 and you use Kamal#2,,,,, That makes sense I believe and eliminates a lot of confusion...........
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| | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 08:01 am it means ur one da few surviving decant somali girls
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| | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 08:09 am kamaal, your name has double AA (kamaal) while mine has only one A (kamal). that is the difference between your name and my name. michigan, the girl is only decant enough to not kiss a guy she is not married to, but she did not say she does not do other things with the guys. the only problem she has is the kissing. that means as long as the guy does not kiss, she is willing to have intimate with him in another way.
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| | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 08:57 am kamaal...get a life bro, you choose to twist my words. I'll hug a guy, let him put his arm around me, kiss my hand, kiss my cheek......but to get intimate with him physically????..hell nooooooooo!!!!. The idea of having sex with ANYBODY is out of the question for me...but i'm trying to figure out why i can't stand kissing. Michigan-is it really decency do you think???/
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| | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 09:14 am yep............i doooooooooooooooooooo.........4real..........
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| | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 09:26 am but, ms. no kissing, don't you know that letting a guy----whom you are not married to---put his arm around you or hug you--------is not an OLD FASHIONED or an acceptable thing in your religion or culture.? as far as the religion or the somali culture is concern, the hugging, the kissing and the touching a man you are not married to is wierd.
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| | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 09:57 am if you can't stand the idea of kissing a guy whom you are not married to, then looks like to me the reason you feel that way is the same reason you can't also stand the idea of having sex with anybody before marriage. looks like to me you are letting guys put their arms around you and they can kiss your cheeks, but you are not letting them kiss your mouth and your private parts. that is all. but you do not know that touching the opposite sex (hugging and cheek kissing them) is no different than kissing them mouth to mouth or doing oral sex with them. these acts are all about sexuality. clinton tried to get away this kind of act by saying he didn't have sex with that woman.
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| | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 10:06 am you can not claim and say the idea of having sex with ANYBODY is out of the question for me while at the same time letting guys feel your body by hugging you and by having cheek kissing with them. let the guys french kiss you if you are already letting them feel your body and go all the way with you or else stay away from them. you can not have your cake and eat it too. what i'm trying to say is sin is a sin.
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| | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 01:58 pm KAMAL, AND KAMAAL.....YOU GUYS ARE WAY TOO INTO SEX..TOO GRAPHIC , AND I THINK YOU'RE BOTH THE SAME ••••....I THOUGHT THAT MAYBE KISSING DISGUSTED ME BECAUSE IT WAS SINFUL...AND I ARRIVED AT THE CONCLUSION THAT THAT WASN'T THE REASON..SO YOU GUYS CAN STOP MAKING ME LOOK LIKE A HYPOCRITE O.K.???..I KNOW THAT MY RELEGIOUSNESS IS FAR FROM PERFECT,BUT I DO BELEIVE THAT SINS COME IN DIFFERENT DEGREES..BIG ONES, ANS SMALL ONES!
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| | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 04:26 pm no kissing, we are not too graphic nor are we the ones who opened this page to discuss about kissing. i'm not saying you are perfect. no one is perfect. it is just that some people know that they are doing sin and not denying the sin while you are doing the sin and denying the sin of letting guys kiss your cheeks and feel your body. you say "i thought that maybe kissing disgusted me because it was sinful...and i arrived at the conclusion that it wasn't the reason", but did it ever accure to you that hugging and letting guys feel you is a sinful act? what i'm saying is that you are picking and choosing which sin is big sin. no one is making you a hypocrite. you are the one who is making a hypocrite out of yourself.
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| | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 05:20 pm No you are not alone........
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| | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 05:30 pm There are more bacteria in the mouth than anywhere else. You are absolutely right to stay away from kissing. I can't think of a more disgusting thing to do.
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| | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 05:32 pm kamal...my life, my sins, my business...you get my drift??..if you can't contribute to the topic, then pls see yourself to the door!!..that's all i have to say to you.
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| | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 07:14 pm your business on the public forums; you made it people's business; therefore, accept any drift your get from people
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| | Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 05:41 am No kissing, if you don't like to kiss lips, would you like to kiss a dick? kinda different type of kissing, if u know what i mean, you lil idiot young fresh pussy!!!. If you looking for answer to your problem? the answer is your age, you lil stupid...grow up and concentrate in school ..and wait for your sorry ass turn..and you'll see you'll get wet everything u think of kissing someone. peace TheRebornMan
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| | Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 05:44 am Kutubeey To Kamal: Why Are You Digging Her, Man?? I Mean If You Need To Dig Something Go Back To Somali Where Farmer Is Needed So Badly, Know what I'm Saying! I Hope You Get Her Drift. To NoKissing: Well, Sometimes Live Is Full Of Surprises (Not Knowing What To Expect, Who You Gonna Meet, Or What To Do Next Minute), However, There Are Times When You Really Appreciate Kissing More Than Holding Hands, Kissing Faces, Cuddling And So. My Question Is: Have You Ever Tried Kissing Someone? ...Was It Bad/Good??...And Why Are Having This Kissing Anxiety?? Or You Are Having An Exaggerated Of Inexplicable And Illogical Fear Of A Kissing. I'm Sorry, If I Put You On Hearing(Like Immigration) But I'm Trying To Figure Out What Caused You To Feel This Awkward Way... Anyway, I Hope You To Come Out Of This FEAR>> I'm Not Blaming You... Guys Are To Be Blamed Coz They Didn't Do Their Roles. Kutubeey Has Left The Building
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| | Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 06:22 am kutubeey, no, i do not know what you are saying. you tell me to go back to somalia in order to dig something, but you also asked me why am i digging her? I wish i understood your drift, kutubeey.
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| | Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 02:28 pm Mariah What are u trying to say that u don't like kissing ? Hhhhhh No kissing I agree some of what RebornMan man said concentrate in School stop worring bout kissing ur only 18 years old. Good luck
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| | Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 02:33 pm kamal...dear brother, good thing that i had time to surf the other discussions bro, otherwise i would never had known how to get back at your biting comments. Today i came across the discussion "choosing between two cousins"..a girl trying to decide which cousin to marry......and lo and behold YOU contributed your two cents worth..suggested to the poor girl that she should marry YOU!!!....and that you would teach her all she needs to know about KISSING!!..and then it hit me...WHERE DID YOU BECOME SUCH AN EXPERT ON KISSING????...where did you practice?? who did you practice with ???..cause you know you can't teach what you don't know....tell me was it a girl????lollllllllllllllll LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING BRO...PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH, AND IT'S TIME SOMALIS STOPPED USING DOUBLE STANDARDS IN JUDGING BOYS AND GIRLS...I'M PRETTY SURE GOD WON'T FORGIVE YOU FOR YOUR SINS JUST BECAUSE YOU HAPPEN TO BE BORN WITH THE Y-CHROMOSOME! Kutubeey--no i have never been kissed before, and i'm starting to think that i don't ever WANT to be kissed..but ya never know huh?
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| | Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 04:07 pm i never said there is something wrong about the kissing or the teaching and the learning about the kissing. you think kissing on the cheak and hugging a man whom you are not married to is lesser zinna than other zinnas. you are the one who is saying there is something wrong. if the kissing involves between a man and woman who are not married each other, it is sin act, but it is still a pleasurable act. the difference between you and me is that i never denied the pleasure of kissing-----whether done in halaal way or haraan way. also there is nothing wrong if suggested to a poor or a rich girl for marriage. you think there is something wrong. i do not preach hypocricy. you are. to me, a sin is a sin, big or small. only a hypocrite picks and chooses which sin is bigger than the other sin--- when it comes to kissing and having an intimate with a person whom you are not married to.
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| | Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 05:13 pm KAMAL...there is big and small sins...and if you knew anything about relegion you would know that. I beleive you chose deliberately to misunderstand me just to cause drama...i did not add relegion to this discussion , you did that all by yourself...and i don't recall me saying that i didn't kiss for relegious reasons....if that were so ,then i wouldn't need to post this discussion would i?? oh yeah for your information bro...by "poor" i wasn't refering to financial status...so pls try to understand before you jump to conclusions and all. I think you're here just to pick a fight with someone...or is this your way of hollerin at a girl??...I have one advice for you, make your intentions clear instead of wasting our time and yours with off base conclusions and messed up opinions...don't preach at me, don't you know that for preaching to work you actually need to be PRACTICNG yourself??? PEACE OUT p.s......oh and congratulations, you have succeeded in irritating me with your arrogance and IGNORANCE.
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| | Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 05:25 pm No kissing: Enough already. Kamal stop the madness. Sis this is what you do. Get yourself a nice creamy Haagen Das ice-cream(The one on a stick) and practice on that. And when you find a nice Somali man(Stay away from the foreigners; They all have herpes and other sicknesses) you should be well-practiced. But first make him use an entire tube of toothpaste(Colgate is good) and you will be all set. First start with a carresing motion one set of lips against the other. Things will quickly progress and it is up to you how far you want to go and what you find sensuous and pleasurable. But all this is much better enjoyed if one is married. People out there don't sharpen your pencils. I am not advocating pre-marital sex and such, lol.
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| | Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 08:03 pm if you knew anything about religion you would have known-------what constitutes zina. in religion, there is no difference whatsoever if a guy who is not my husband kissess you and if he sleeps with her. know that a zina is a zina, ms. no kissing. you did add religion to this discussion when you told us what you consider small sin and what you consider big sin. you said "I'll hug a guy, let him put his arm around me, kiss my hand, kiss my cheek......but to get intimate with him physically ????..hell nooooooooo!!!!". you do not even know that some guys putting arm around you and kissing you on the cheek and hugging you are intimate "physical" acts. these acts are no different than having intercourse in religion. it is like saying i do not eat the pork meat, but i drink it's soup. how hypocrite. by the way, do you think you are better than the girl you characterized poor girl? let me make my intention clear to you if you did not already know. i can not stand hypocrisy when i see it. you are asking me not to preach and not tell you the hypocrisy you are displaying----when you actually came to a public forums to air your business and when you asked us to preach to you by saying "let me hear you all". you do not even know---that you asked everyone who comes to here to preach to you. so, my dear sister, do not be irritating with me. you asked for it. :-)
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| | Wednesday, August 02, 2000 - 08:07 pm if you knew anything about religion you would have known-------what constitutes zina. you do not know that in religion, there is no difference whatsoever if a guy who is not your husband kissess you and if he sleeps with you. know that a zina is a zina, ms. no kissing. you did add religion to this discussion when you told us what you consider small sin and what you consider big sin. you said "I'll hug a guy, let him put his arm around me, kiss my hand, kiss my cheek......but to get intimate with him physically ????..hell nooooooooo!!!!". you do not even know that some guys putting arm around you and kissing you on the cheek and hugging you are intimate "physical" acts. these acts are no different than having intercourse. it is like saying i do not eat the pork meat, but i drink it's soup. how hypocrite. by the way, do you think you are better than the girl you characterized as poor girl? let me make my intention clear to you if you did not already know. i can not stand hypocrisy when i see it. you are asking me not to preach and not tell you the hypocrisy you are displaying----when you actually came to a public forums to air your business and when you asked us to preach to you by saying "let me hear you all". you do not even know---that you asked everyone who comes to here to preach to you. so, my dear sister, do not be irritating with me. you asked for it. :-)
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| | Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 07:07 am Kamal Are you acting "Qaali Huurshe", you are condemning the girl! Nokissing Sis, I think you got the best advise from Xoogsade.
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| | Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 07:35 am muridi, i never heard of someone named "qaali huurshe". the girl said and asked everyone who comes to here this: "so tell me, is there something wrong with me". therefore, muridi, the girl received exactly what she asked for.
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| | Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 08:35 am KAMAL....i never said anything about being better than the "poor girl"..i am merely calling her poo because someone like YOU would propose to her is all.The more i read your replies the more i KNOW that you think you are the •••• and that god sent you down to condemn every1...let me see kamal, since there are no small sins big sins, since you confess on going all out, you are "GAAAAAAAAAAALLLL???'' aren't you???? As for me introducing relegion if you go back and read carefully you will see that i gave the "big sin, small sin" speech on response to YOU sir...i am convinced that you overlook anything that might make you look wrong..and that in itself is a sign of defeat. And kamal...wlc to my ignore list...i can't waste another breath on you...so rant..rave...scream...offend..but i seal my lips ...enjoy your trip!!!1
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| | Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 09:39 am DarkmanX dont •••• around!!!
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| | Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 10:42 am no kissing, the girl does not think she is a poor girl; you think she is a poor girl. she does not think there is something wrong with her; you think there is something wrong with you. you see, you came here to tell us-----to inform you if there is something wrong with you. however, the girl whom you characterized as being a poor girl said this herself. "FIRST OF ALL I AM NOT FOOL AND SECOND HAVE U EVER HEARD OF SENSE OF HUMOR OR JOKES AND HAVING A GOOD TIME IN THE NET AFTER ALL WE ALL SOMALIA AND WE CAN DISCUSS ANY THING WE PLEASE THAT INCLUDES WHO U CONSIDER TO MARRY, I WAS JUST JOKING WHEN I SAID I WILL MARRY KAMAAL". http://somalinet.com/forums_archives/6051/7067.html to me, the girl is far from being a poor girl. she is to me a girl who has sense of humor; a girl who does not need anyone telling her if there is something wrong with her; you are, one the other hand, a girl who is in need of help, a direction. i do not think God send me to condemn anyone. you asked every1 here to give what they think of you. you told us your problem and i noticed your hypocrisy. however, when you received what you asked for, you started to complain and start to get irritation.! no i'm not a GAAL, sister. it just so happens that i see sins as sins. i do not justfy and pick and choose which sin is better than the other. i'm not a hypocrite. if i do sin, which no one is free from sin, i do not say this is better than the other. this does not make me a GAAL. i've never confessed on going all out to do zina, but if i kiss a lady, i know that there is no different than sleeping with her. to me, a zina is a zina. i did not introduce religion; i just ask you about your hypocrisy. a hypocrite picks and chooses which sin is bigger than the other sin and tries to justfy it. how can i preach religion to you while you at the same time consider me a GAAL and while i'm already told you let the guys french kiss you if you are already letting them feel your body. i told you to go all the way with them or else stay away from them? the next time you want to ignore someone on public forums, try not to request opinion everyone who comes to here and say this: "so tell me, is there something wrong with me???? let me hear you all.".
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| | Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 10:59 am Boys and girls be quit now ,kamal and the rest of the naughty boys leave the girl a lone. -No kissing sister its perfectly fine to feel that way in such a young age and i personally think its something to do with the way u have been brought up religion and culturewise(good girls dont kiss or get close to strangers) -Hey im a man 23 years old and i hate kissing how about that u r not alone so chil out and find a good guy in the future who is willing to accomodate ur needs(someone who's sensitive caring treats u the way u wanna be treated for the main while concentrate on ur schooling and dont pay to much attention to things like kissing there is plenty of time for it in the furure.
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| | Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 11:21 am bro mubarak, you said that it is the religion and culture which have something to do with the way she feels about the kissing. i disagreee with yoiu. i do not think this is the case. if that was the case, the hugging and touching---a guy whom you are not married to---also are something the religion and the culture does not approve of. by the way, you gave the girl an advice on what to do since she and you hate the kissing. your adive for her is that you finds a good guy who will school her and teach her about the kissing. now, how about you? are you are looking for a good girl to school you and teach you the kissing since you also hate the kissing, bro. mubarak?
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| | Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 11:58 am Dear no kissing sis it is a taboo to kiss a man if he is not related to u, u know what i mean "a husband" that is the only one u can kiss i suppose. And on the other hand guys will take advantage of you by the first time u kiss and u know what they will think, he might be well, she knows that kissing is un appropriate in our religion thus she might go for the next step, and u know what i mean right abaayo? Therefore it is taboo, it'a against our religion and it might guide you to wrong paths if you do it, so pls never even think about it ok. that is all i can say for u. I am a girl and i am close to your age, I never kissed a man and i don't want to do that unless.... he becomes the one that i will share with my life till death aparts us. To the other guys shame on u especially the so called kamals, and u know what u guys need someone to talk to a muslim psychologist cause both of u have crossed the lines and u need parental advice if you are kids otherwise u need to make an investment about what our caring, yet sweet religion says about these kind of issues.
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| | Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 12:33 pm i never heard of there was a muslim psychologist. do you mean wadaad? i did not cross the lines and i did not bring shame to anyone, including me. what did i say that made me cross the line or coused shame, quman? also what did the other kamal do? you said shame on everyone, especially the so called kamals.
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| | Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 03:34 pm Get together and try this Lips together, kissing soft and slow. A little lip biting is always good, too. To be Continued Muriidi & Xoogsade you are pervert. Kissing Ice Cream? Acuzu bilaah Kamal lay Off. What are you anyway Male or Female?
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| | Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 03:40 pm Mubarak & No Kissing Get together and try this Lips together, kissing soft and slow. A little lip biting is always good, too. To be continued
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| | Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 06:50 pm the name kamal is a male name, monica. what about you---does monica lewinsky in you kiss private parts?
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| | Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 06:53 pm if you do kiss pravite parts, i hope you do not bite. you said a little biting is always good. if monica lewisky is known to kiss pravite parts, i hope you do not bite. you said a little biting is always good.
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| | Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 07:11 pm hey kamal, I am sorry to say to u that u have had crossed the line, but i was kind of mad about how u treated our little sis, and about her issue of no-kissing. Anyway I hope u forgive me. peace bro
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| | Thursday, August 03, 2000 - 08:32 pm Any way kissing is boring
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| | Friday, August 04, 2000 - 02:35 am quman, i did not mean to cross any line and i do not think i did anything wrong to my sister. also, i do not think you did anything wrong to me. so my sister, quman, do not be sorry and there was no need of apology from you. i'm sure you are a nice girl. you said you have never kissed a man since you have never been married before. that is good. i'm sure your future husband will be very happy to have you. tell me, what kind of man are you looking for? does he have to be a muslim psychologist, a wadaad?
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| | Friday, August 04, 2000 - 05:23 am No kissing , Sis ..You already know what you hate and its a good that you are not searching for physical love, its sinful and i advice you to stay away from it , remember Allah is watching you. Being strong-willed is a gift,you will see how it will benefit you in the longterm, take it from me.Wait and you will mature to realize that concentrating on your education and controlling and developing a good heart will lead you to a good straight right path.Focus on improving those two things than improving your looks to satify a man ......by the way ..there is more to life than kissing or thinking of a man at this age.You have a life to live .,. go and live it girl. Open your eyes and dont let real love pass you by...i mean by that love of life. One more advice .... never get an advice from kamal he types here what he cant say in real life , so dont be one of his victims.......... lol... no offence kamal. Salaam.
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| | Friday, August 04, 2000 - 05:29 am Kamal You made me laugh, you are so funny!! Tell u what the answer to the question u asked me will be yes he should be (a muslim psychologist) ha haha a {wadaad}!!!!!!!!! Anyway I wouln't mind a decent and gentle one.
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| | Friday, August 04, 2000 - 05:52 am Quman can i kiss you.
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| | Friday, August 04, 2000 - 06:05 am dunya, you do not know what i say and do not say in real life, because you and i do not know each other in real life. we've never had live conversation together. but you have seen what i type on here. i type what i feel and i type my understanding of things. i'm not here to victimize anyone. i'm here to exchange ideas and debate with anyone want. i do not get offend what people write or what you said about me. i do not get mad; i get even. i can take and i can dish as well war of words. you said to the sister never get an advice from me, but i'm not on here to give an advice. i'm here to point out like it is. i noticed hypocrisy and i pointed out to her. but lets see the advice you offered to her and if you are preaching hypocrisy. you adviced her and said to her this: "Sis ..You already know what you hate and its a good that you are not searching for physical love, its sinful and i advice you to stay away from it , remember Allah is watching you." however, the sister is not searching for physical love; she is already practicing physical love. you and her do not know that hugging, touching and cheek kissing are sinful acts too. you think the hugging and the touching she is doing with the guys is not what Allah is watching. Allah watches and sees everything. sin is sin. touching and hugging is not different than having intercouse. you and her do not want to eat the pork meat, but you want to drink it's soup. this is how hypocrites operate.
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| | Friday, August 04, 2000 - 06:23 am quman, i would like to think i'm a decent and gentle guy. you already think i have sense of humor. i can make you laugh and happy if you marry me; i will not let you do what the religion disapproves of, but do i have to attend school in order to become a muslim psychologist (wadaad)? how long it takes to become a muslim psychologist, anyway? by the way, quman. i like your name. what does it mean?
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| | Friday, August 04, 2000 - 08:39 am You already made me laugh twice. hahaha, I like when u say (* a muslim psychologist) the wadaaad. It is also good to be a humorist, and let me ask you something how many times of a day do u visit somalinet are u addict to this net as me???!!!! I can't do anything without opening it. and that is ironic isn't it? By the way u wanna know how long does it gonna take to master that degree right? well, let's say it might be years, months or even days depends on you. And the meaning of Quman is, well it's a name and I don't know if names have meanings but some of them do!! hmmmmmmm let me think about it for a while ok. And u know what I like your name too, Kamal aint it and I can tell from your writing what kind of a person you are *great, decent, humorist and what else should i say let me take a dictionary and look for the exact words that might describe u. wabilaahi towfiiq.
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| | Friday, August 04, 2000 - 10:57 am quman, i'm online everyday. my job involves with internet applications so is so whenever i have free time to kill, i visit and check on somalinet to see what my people are up to. i'm a faster learner so it would not be problem for me to get my degree within hours, especailly if you are teaching me. i would not mind my wife being a muslim psychologist as well. i heard the more a lady knows about her religion, the more she knows what she wants in life. she will not be shy to reveal herself in front of her husband. she will always smile at her husband and beautify in front of him and be ready for her husband as he whenever it is the right time. they will do everything together; they will pray together and they will make beautiful music together too. i heard if a woman do not have degree in the religion (does not know the religion) there will not be fun in the house and she will not get her rights either. but if she knows something about the religion, she will know that every time she sleeps with her husband or every time she models for him in her sexy ways, she will get a reward from Allah. she will also please her husband in in turn she will get pleasure. there was a woman and man who got married in the countryside (baadiye). the husband knew little about the religion, but his newly wife did not know the religion at all, but she loves Allah and wanted to get to heaven. being newly married couple, they were both shy to approuch and touch each other when they slept together for the first night and the second night, but the thirth night, the man suggested that there was a way to earn rewards from Allah. he said if she and him got inimate, they will ear a reward from Allah and the reward is like going to jihad and killing an infidel. so whenever he or she wanted to get busy, one of them would say to the other, let's kill an infidel or KAALEY AAN GAAL DILEE.
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| | Friday, August 04, 2000 - 12:04 pm Kamal is whimp!! Because he often tends to agree with girls and disagree with boys. That tells you what ? Kamal is either gay or girl or Virgin. Kamal is Gay (possibility=20%) There is 10% chance that Kamal is gay since he likes ass kissing. Kamal is Girl(possibility=30%) There is 30% chance that Kamal is girl since he knows a lot about girls. Kamal is Virgin(possibility=50) There is 50% chance that Kamal is virgin since he obsess kissing a girl What do you think about Kamal? gay or girl or virgin I looking forward for this survey.
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| | Friday, August 04, 2000 - 12:09 pm Faisal, player hater stupid! Just a thought.
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| | Friday, August 04, 2000 - 12:31 pm faisal, what is whimp? faisal, you know i like to do ass kicking, don't you? if i know a lots about girls, does this mean i'm a girl myself, faisal or does it mean i want action? there is nothing wrong kissing a girl and if i am obsessed with kissing girls---that means i'm not a virgin, right, faisal? let me tell you what kamal thinks of kamal, faisal. kamal is neither a gay nor a girl niether a virgin. kamal disagrees with the girls who employ hypocrosy; he makes people like you change their names after he kicked their ass in debates; he makes them come back for more ass kicking; he makes them do survey. :-) I looking forward for this survey.
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| | Friday, August 04, 2000 - 01:02 pm Salaama Caleykum Hello Sis No Kissing, sis as you said not joke did you married how come you talk Nasty where is the Islam and Shy, We are Muslims , we should follow Allaahs Commands so I will advice you to read the beautiful Hadith Fear Allaah you expose your self here. "O young Men, whoever among you can afford it, let him get married, for it helps him to lower his gaze and protect his chastity. And whoever cannot do that, let him fast, for it will be a protection for him"
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| | Friday, August 04, 2000 - 04:36 pm Faisal. The survey shows you have rotten observation of what people write. Don't you see kamal is scroing big time?. I see a desire and love for women in him.
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| | Saturday, August 05, 2000 - 01:22 am I vote 100% KAMAL is a gay......
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| | Saturday, August 05, 2000 - 03:04 am Kamal Yeb "love bites" little nibbling and sucking is always Good. Biting gently and repeatedly,Drives Bill crazy.
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| | Saturday, August 05, 2000 - 04:29 am anonymous, you voted 100% kamal to be a gay, because..........................? it is because he made you mad; made you change your name many times and made you take now the name anonymous or is it because kamal likes to do ass kicking?
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| | Saturday, August 05, 2000 - 07:03 am I vote 100% kamal is knowledgable and wise . Your not that good in giving an advice but very good in discussions . I am not a hypocrite .. but i use my own methods of convincing a teen. Some of you my interpret it in one way , and others in another way, simply my dear, i dont give a damn. You tend to twist words to start another topic and others twist it back again ...are we in the seventies or something? ..lol Kamal ..keep on talking ,your doing this site good. Salaam.
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| | Saturday, August 05, 2000 - 08:12 am my sister dunya, some of us do not give a damn about what other say about us. i did not say that you are a hypocrite; i said you employed hypocrisy when you said to the sister "its a good that she is not searching for physical love, its sinful". however, you over looked the "physical" acts she said she allows guys to do with her, like the cheek kissing and the hugging. to me, these "physical" acts are also "sinful". you are right. i'm not good at giving an advice to people who come on online, but if you and i were to give an advice online, we better tell like it is. i do not know if the lady is a teenager or not. when we see things and want to give an advice, we should not over look some things over others, some sins over other sins. i am not trying to twist your words; i'm just trying to point out the inconsistencies. anyway, i like your attitude. although we see things differently, you are a civilized lady. you are different than those think insults will win then debates. looking forward to discussing other thinks. i got the feeling you and i look things similarly.
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| | Saturday, August 05, 2000 - 08:20 am Monica Lewinsky, if the monica lewinsky in you loves to bite the the things she sucks gently and repeatedly, you can count me out. i do not want to take a risk on a girl like you. if the monica lewinsky in you likes to eat things, when is she going to loose weight?
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| | Saturday, August 05, 2000 - 09:59 am "SOME OF US LIKE TO TALK, AND MAKE AN ASS OF THEMSELVES" -KAMAL GET A LIFE
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| | Saturday, August 05, 2000 - 11:44 am ....do u sell life NO KISSING?......
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| | Saturday, August 05, 2000 - 12:07 pm are you talking about yourself, no kissing?
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| | Saturday, August 05, 2000 - 03:38 pm People.. whats up with you and vulger language ? Using profanity is a clear sign of ignorance and unintelligence. Okay , Like sister sumaya said , we need not to discuss things in a nasty, unislamic matter. And kamal is right ....vulger language just messes up a discussion . Alright ..let me try myself.. Now lets talk about the reason for these actions (kissing ..hugging..etc. ) that are morally unacceptable in our religion ..but many people consider it a very important move do determine a person's feelings towards the other. Is it really important ? Are woman provoking it ? Or are men forcing them ? Like sister no kissing is saying .... i hug guys ..and i kiss them on the cheek . I think this is enough to make a guy think that she can go to the next level easily, thats what i think sis, so avoid that. What about guys ,, whom think that the word " girl friend" means she loves me and she can do anything for me ...and when she doesnt , give her time .. and if she didnt fall yet .... aah ..she is tough i better search for a cool one.But when they come to marriage .... i am searching for a religious girl .. plzzzzzzzzzzzz. Dont you think you are the ones whom are spoiling them in the beginning. Why is that ? If it is a sin to kiss or hug someone ... its also a sin to shake hands . Its also a sin to be alone with a man/woman who is not your wife/husband/relative ..because shaytaan is between you two . Then couples ask .... how do we marry if we dont know eachother ? Arrange marriage ? ...lol.. What do you think ? In our religion .... dating is out of the picture ...but still , i see many religious people ( not nesessary wadaad) meeting indivisuals whom they would love to marry, several times and also knowing that its xaraam. Is it because they know they have a strong will and they cant indulge themselves into a sin ?.. I have a good feeling kamal will write ..lol.. just kidding bro. Looking forward to hear it. Thats all i have ....I would like to hear your opinions. no kissing .... i am still on your topic .. dont worry ..... Salaam.
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| | Saturday, August 05, 2000 - 07:19 pm is cheek kissing, hugging and hand shaking with the opposite sex xaraam? i think so. can we avoid it? i think so. it is allowed for girl and guy to talk about things that relate to their future in marriage and they can get together each other in order for them to see if they are attracted to each other. there is no such thing in religion as being girl-friend and boy-friend. if a guy and a girl want to set their own rules by breaking the law of islam, then they should not blame no one but themselves if things go wrong and if they sin. even if their cheek kissing, touching, hand shaking does not lead to sex and they can control themselves, they are still breaking the law of islam. if a person is selling an alcohol and even if he is not drinking, he or she is still doing sin; he or she is no different than the one who drinks. if a guy and a girl want to find out if they are compatible for each other and they are working towards marriage, they can avoid doing early the cheek kissing, hugging, hand shaking and intercourse. what i'm saying is that. if i'm selling wine, but not drinking the wine or if i'm cheek kissing a girl, but not having intercourse with her, i might as well go all the way with her and wine and dine and enjoy. if i do not want to drink the win, i should not sell and if i do not want to have sex with her, i should not fondle her. the key point here is that if someone wants to avoid burning from fire (dhuxul), would he or she touch the dhuxul with his lips and hands or would he or she want to stay away from the dhuxul all together? also, if someone wants to have the pleasure of sweet cake, would he or she just small taste with his or her lips or touch the sweet cake with his or her hand or would he or she want to eat the cake all together till he is satisfied himself or herself?
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| | Saturday, August 05, 2000 - 08:29 pm wow wow! I missed a lot, my computer was down and I couldn't wait to be in the center of this discussion, so what happened? They voted that Kamal is a Pimp,a Gay, or a Girl, well, well, well that is absolutely nonesense, how could you?! And u know what Kamal, whatever they say,just ignore them pls and remain who you are coz that makes you a person!!!, no matter what they say about u? Anyways how we doing and how is our good yet attractible discussion is going on. read from u later.
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| | Saturday, August 05, 2000 - 09:18 pm NO KISSING Kissing is a fucking "A" girl U don't know what UR missing..  Later.
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| | Sunday, August 06, 2000 - 04:36 am NO kissing. Do your own thing. Don't let no-body tell you otherwise. You know what's right for you!! This is from a guy. So don't bother calling me a love sick CAT..........
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| | Sunday, August 06, 2000 - 05:34 am Quman((((hi there)))) been waitting for u allday long ,,,,
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| | Sunday, August 06, 2000 - 05:53 am Its also a sin for woman to walk on the street face painted ( makeup) .. its also a sin for woman to go party ( weddings) .. they are provoking it too...... Its more like a woman walking half naked downtown and getting raped . She asked for it .. sheeeesh ..
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| | Sunday, August 06, 2000 - 08:05 am You are right kamal .. and i find what you said very logical and makes perfect sense ...... everything we do in our lives is a choice . You choose to sit and you choose to stand up. And thats one problem our people are facing , they are being ruled by culture not by their religion. Religion for them is more like a set of rules and laws that effect a minor parts of their lives ....but culture is their habitat and they are more drawn towards it. Why is that .. is it because its more appealing ? I think its because its new ... everyday something different comes up and everyone is drawn to it . I believe your religion is what makes you who you are and its good to see that your ideas are based on that too. Look at those people whom choose to use the word "gay" instead of what bootan described you as " have a great respect for woman", its as if no man knows more about how women may feel or want but a woman herself. What do you think kamal ? Anonymous ... everything around us today ,from watching t.v, smoking, , woman cutting their hair is a sin ..but God is the most gracious,most merciful . If we pray , read quraan and praise Allah , we might either wash out all these minor sins which we might do in our daily lives and also get great rewards at the same time plus slowly forget about conducting those minor sins as time goes by, knowledge is nuur. This is as good as it gets ............... Salaam all ....
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| | Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 04:35 am Yo, I can't stand these hypocrite bitches preaching religion during the daytime and sucking dick on sidelines. No Kissing: girl u dont know what your missing. I know theres a freak in u so just let it out, a lil tongue to tongue action never hurt nobody. Anyways I heard girls go real crazy when you kiss their necks and suck on their ear-lobes then its best to lick their titts. I dont go below the belt its haram lol lol. Kamal: you are the biggest idiot in this room. If the girl wants to be a freak let her do it dont playa-hate participate (i bet your a dick-loving fag)
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| | Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 06:48 am I think french kiss is totally prohibited from us,'muslims'.and please some of you.......pleaseeeeeee........learn how to spell 'cheeck'?it's terrible.....!No kissing...> i vote for NO kissing!
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| | Thursday, August 10, 2000 - 03:40 am kamal ? No more blah blah blah .. the guy left the earth.
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| | Thursday, August 10, 2000 - 04:48 am HEY WHAT DO U MEAN NO KISSING!!! I KNOW ALL OF U R DOIN IT, SO JUST ADMIT IT OK.. U CAN'T AVOID KISSIN IN THE HEAT OF PASSION,, SO GO FOR IT DON'T DINY YOURSELF THE PLEASURE.
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| | Thursday, August 10, 2000 - 04:50 am Dont generalize my friend and speak about yourself.
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| | Friday, August 11, 2000 - 08:03 am Kamal Faisal is back and guess what!! you taught you get rid of me. I don't have to change my name for wimp like you ; guess what I was away and screwing honeys while you were screwing this discussion page. I see a few votes for Kamal being gay(100%) My my vote is you are Virgin Boy(100%). Take that to you ass and don't ever come back pitch or you will lose your virginity!!
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| | Friday, August 11, 2000 - 08:07 am My vote is kamal is 100% pitch
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| | Saturday, August 12, 2000 - 05:35 am PEOPLE GET A LIFE AND STOP INSULTING ONE ANOTHER.
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| | Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 12:13 pm O.k....ppl i have stayed away from this discussion for a while so that Kamal can cool it..but i see he's still bs-ing..frankly i don't care whether he's gay, virgin, or female..as long as he stays out of my way and stops acting like he's judge and jury. Anyway i'm the girl that posted this topic and i want to thank all of you for your advices....but i just found out i have a bigger problem than kissing ..I have decided that i'm going to stay away from relationships as long as possible, call it lack of trust for men..whatever though..but maybe i owe you an explanation for my chioce...i found out that some one i loved was molested by a guy i trusted when she was a little girl..another women that i admire dearly that carried herself with dignity was beaten up by her husband..she has a blood red eye with a black circle around it as a result....a good friend of mine treats his girl friend like ••••...another friend of mine (sometimes..i wonder...)acts like he wants to hit you when you get on his nerves..and he has made it his mission to trap me into a relationship (i'm sorry but i need RESPECT!!..I have no itenion of ignoring the signs of likely to come abuse just because he declares how much he "likes' meeeeeeeee. You guys can say that there are "good ones" out there, but i have hard time seeing those..they must be hiding from them..there was this one guy that i thought was a good man..he took care of his family..him and his wife went through hell together,poverty,her family being mad at her..and then when everything started fitting in to place..the money started pouring in..the relatives came around..BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM. he takes a second wife..yeah..i know it's his right...but still a little sensitivity doesn't kill anybody..i mean she's been to hell and back with him..show a little appreciation????..but noooooooooooo...now he can spend all that money on another woman. So my dear brothers and sister.. I hand in my resignation from the Dating market...I RESIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGNNNNNNNN. NO KISSING
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| | Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 03:56 pm Resigning .. good thinking sis ,Come to my firm of educated, liberal, religious and civilised woman and i will give you a raise . :-) Salaam and good luck.
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| | Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 06:08 pm Dunya--liberal???relegious??..those don't mix at all hon..even the conservative westerners look down on liberals and think them wild...but otherwise i consider myself educated, and civilized...even i know my relegion lacks much but i think i'll sort through it soon enough....i know you didn't mean harm dunya but you sound as if i'm coming from an uneducated, unrelegious, barbarc background, and i don't believe i do or am...so excuse sister but would you care to rephrase cause yor choice of words just bugged the hell out me, and i know your not a bad person..but it would make me feel better NO KISSING
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| | Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 06:26 pm oooooooooooow .. is it " Attack on Dunya day" today . Just wondering. Its very boring when a person cant get your joke . hmmmm ...lol.. Didnt mean to bug you sis,.. just to make you smile for a change since you've been having a bad day in figuring out many problems around you . Zaat is all. I was wondering if the webmasters can make a voice recognized messages on this forums.. i think it will really help in avoiding many misinterpretations. ... :-> Salaam.
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| | Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 10:35 pm No-Kissing. I have a good bye advice for you and I would encourage you to stay away from kissing, touching, or the extreme. The best thing you own is your dignity through yourself. The minute you sleep with someone the minute you feel unwanted, unappreciated, unimportant, filthy or hopeless because you gave away all you owned and that was yourself. Believe me, if a woman wants to keep her selfsteem she does avoid premarital sex. Ask ladies who had been there before. Any way I say to you; We make our world by the life we lead, By the friends we have, by the Quran we read, By the pity we show in the hour of care, By the loads we lift and the love we share. We make the world in which we live By what we gather and what we give, By our daily deeds and the things we say, By what we keep or we cast away. We make our world--and there we live. So, I say NO-KISSING stay pure you don't regrett. Mark my words.
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| | Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:19 am No Kissing Sis I like these Words " Dunya--liberal???relegious??..those don't mix at all hon" Dunya needs lot to Figure out.
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