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USA ELECTION WITH JEWISH VIC-PRESIDENT

SomaliNet Forum (Archive): General Discusions: Archive (May 2000 - August 2000): USA ELECTION WITH JEWISH VIC-PRESIDENT
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Asha

Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 01:19 pm
Hello Folks

Whom you wanna Vote for USA election.

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Anonymous

Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 01:24 pm
ME ....MYSELF .... AND I .

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Sweetgirl

Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 01:31 pm
Asha

I couldn't care less about the politics in USA, it's the worst country on the face of the earth. George W. Bush is a retard, and Al Gore is boring beyond belief. Next question.

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Cleopatra

Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 02:07 pm
PPL, the election is about issues and polcies, not personalites aight!

Asha, I would have preferred to vote for Ralph Nader (not because he is of Arab decent) but because of his policies on environment, human rights, consumer affairs etc. However, he has no chance of winning according to polls.

I would probably vote Democrat (i don't care about the personalites being jewish, again, one should focus on policy issues etc). The only problem I have with the democrats is their prochoice abortion policy.

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Xoogsade

Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 02:21 pm
Tweedledum and Tweedledee, not a jot of difference between Gush and Bore, er sorry I mean Bush and Gore.

Cleopatra:

I don't there is any policy differences between the two, with both of them making a mad dash for the centre. Can you think of any differences other than on the abortion issue? I can't.

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Somali Leading press Girl

Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 05:05 pm
Asha

I think Gore's vice president is impressive.the fact he is a jew makes no difference,the question is,does he have the capacity of vice leading a nation such as usa?Does he have a resume that reflect the qualities that engulfs a leader.The answer is YES!This is what somali needs,an election based on merits and qualities of the candinates,not a pre-exisisting inheritance (quality) such as color,tribe,or wealth.I think USA is a remarkable place to be.Long live america.

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Somali Leading press Girl

Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 05:05 pm
Asha

I think Gore's vice president is impressive.the fact he is a jew makes no difference,the question is,does he have the capacity of vice leading a nation such as usa?Does he have a resume that reflect the qualities that engulfs a leader.The answer is YES!This is what somali needs,an election based on merits and qualities of the candinates,not a pre-exisisting inheritance (quality) such as color,tribe,or wealth.I think USA is a remarkable place to be.Long live america.

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Alipapa

Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 05:31 pm
Somali leading press girl;

Oh yeah indeed it is. by the way what it is this "press" thing in your name? are you student of journalism?. I hardly see any somali chick studing that field. But i am looking forward to see.
Alipapa

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Asha

Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 05:45 pm
Hello Folks

As a New Somali-American I will vote for Bush many reasons, here it comes

1-He is not Pro-Jewish
2-Anti-abortion
3-Family Values

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gore campaign manager

Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 06:12 pm
asha

Did you know that bush's vice president is pro-homosexuals?puke!bush's vice president's daughter is a lesbian.therefore he is pro gays and lesbians.well folks...dont you rather be pro jew than pro homosexuals?i vote nay-bush>>yes gore!

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hebel

Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 06:33 pm
Didn't U guys read the Qur'aan?
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The END will come when Jewish rules the world and
there is going to be a one powerful leader who
will acclaim to be GOD and that’s when the world
will END.
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That leader will only have one eye.
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U think IM lying ya better think again and hard
this time and do yar readings.

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cleo

Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 06:33 pm
Asha, check again, Bush's stance on abortion, you would be surprised!

Xoogsade, the 2 parties differ on social issues; medicare, prescription plan for seniors; fiscal policies....what to do with surplus; trade, envrionment, taxes.

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MAD MAC

Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 10:47 pm
Sweetgirl
Worst country on the face of the earth? Don;t you think maybe there's just a little hyperbole there? Just a tad. I mean how 'bout Ethiopia? They stole the Ogaden. Or how 'bout Russia? It's kinda rough over there? Then of course, there's Somali - a country I notice you're not living in.

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A VIEWER

Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 11:45 pm
BEFORE U EVEN VOTE PEOPLE DO UR OWN RESEARCH WHY-WHAT DO U KNOW ABOUT THE TWO PARTIES?
2-ABOUT THE CANDIDATES..PRESIDENT&VP?
3-WHAT DO THEY REALLY STAND FOR?
4-WHAT'S IN IT FOR U.WHY DO YOU VOTE?
-----------SENSE WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT WITH OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN BROTHER'S LET'S LEARN FROM THEM YET NOT FELLOW THEM 100%,AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY DEMOCRATS WHICH IS KIND OF SAD BCUZ IT MAKES THEM LOOK LIKE A USED CARD USE'EM AND DUMP'EM IS WHAT THE DEMOCRATS DO .....BUSH ON THE OTHER HAND TRIED TO APPEAL TO BLACK VOTERS IN HIS CONVENTION PEACH IN PHILADELPHIA,BUT FROM WHAT THE POLLS SHOWS NO MAJOR CHANGES -BLACKS ARE STILL OVERWHELMINGLY DEMOCRATS.
........THIS IS HOW I CANALIZE THE TWO PARTIES
DEMOCRATS=REPUBLICANS.THEY'RE THE TWO FACES OF ONE COIN.
THAT WHY IBM NOT GOING TO CAST MY VOTE WHY?NO CLEAR ALTERNATIVE THAT WHY.

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bootaan.

Thursday, August 10, 2000 - 12:50 am
Alipapa.

Funny how you are looking forward to meeting somali chick after so much hysteria about them.

Others.

I would really try this vote thing if I lived in michigan detroit where muslims have some numbers or any other state where we have a noticable number to push for some islamic interest like Prayer calling on the microphones, divorce and child custody cases, buying a house from the local government without interest, Wills, Mosques etc etc things that affect our lives as islamic people. Otherwise don't bother giving your ticket to a cause that doesn't benefit you as an individual with different ideals and interests from the rest of america. It is all interest. Why would you vote when there is no interest for you and your community?. I think, we can take advantage of their system to some degree and push for some religious freedoms and test them whether their hypocritic religious tolerance can be tinkered with or not so that the islamic colonized world can see america's double standard and niceness on the surface. What do you think guys?. I wouldn't also object to complete abondance of the hellish vote if convinced. What do the religious people think of this partaking in the votes for non islamic system?. I appreciate if they can comment too?.

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gore campaigne manager

Thursday, August 10, 2000 - 03:41 am
oh my Goddddddddddddd.........oh my Godddddddd, did you all read viewer's spellings of 'annalyse'?Absolutely shocking.Guys????...The guy actually spelled the word in somali.heloooooooooooooooooooo?kulaaxa...'canalize?puke!

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y@mrs?

Thursday, August 10, 2000 - 04:31 am
I wait for the day that civil war distroys america, much like it did to somalia.. the rate of converts to islam and the ratio of muslim babies to non-muslims are both going throught the roof, so i say letz see a civil war to destroy, what has been seen as undistructable!!. so somali's i urge to have plenty to children..,
by the way I think it's time for a black president.

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Kutubeey

Thursday, August 10, 2000 - 09:05 am
Kutubeey

:) to y@mrs ... Eat Your Dreams Sis... Blacks Will Be President When Fish Rides Bicycle.... America Is The Most Dilapidated Racist Pple I've Ever Encountered. However, I Don't Know Why They Consider Black And Spanish Pple As Minorities When They Are The Majority Pple Dwelling In The States...
America Will Be America (Scapegoats)

SeeYa

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Caasha-Canab

Thursday, August 10, 2000 - 09:41 am
Waa yaab, maxeey dhahday "who is going to be a president"?!!!!! Maxaa abaay Caasho kaa galay welfareta aadba ka badin weeysee!!!!!!!, And besides this intee dalkaagii hooyo ku ogeeyd? waa adingan dal shisheeya iyo madax weeynayaashood sheeganayee. waa yaab walee!!!!! Thank Allah if u can stay here in US as long as u wish and never ever waste your valuable time about who is going to be a president and those kind of issues coz u aint nothing sis you are just a poor immigrant so don't u dare interfare about the political issues of the United States.

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Sweetgirl

Thursday, August 10, 2000 - 10:17 am
To Mad Mac:

Hey good suggestions but I think I'll stick with my opinion.

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Kowneyn

Thursday, August 10, 2000 - 10:18 am
Simply dont vote for a jew. Especially a religious jew. Jews r shaitan period. They are the children of Isreal (Jacob CS). However, a jew is one from this advantaged lineage, whom Allah has honored above other men with specific knowledge of him but rejected Allah's to befriend shaitan. The best of the children of Isreal, those that chose Allah at every turn are today Muslim and not jews. They are the real Isreal and in the right moment will emerge to deliver Quds from all the enemies of Allah and a nation of Awliya will emerge to establish themselves as the rightfull inheritors of Allah's covenant with Abraham. This we know as muslims but its also written in the bible clearly.

Anybody who votes for a religious jew is voting for shaitan period.


Kowneyn

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Laascaanoodi

Thursday, August 10, 2000 - 05:36 pm
Why do we have to care if the Vice pres is jew or christian?
does it make any diffirence to us?
personally i will vote for Bush for concrete personal reasons.
1.Bush family are 45%shareholders of connoco oil company.
2.Republicans are problem solvers.
3.The Bush family have lots of money at stake.

so you tell me guys?

just to let you somalis know that jews are human.
arabs are not human. they love taking it up the ass.
if you hate the jews its because of the arab culture that e picked up, not because they have done some thing to us.
they have never waged war on us.
just for the record
do you guys know Israel was the first country to vote for us when we were getting our independence.
all the arab countries voted against us, but israel voted for us
go figure.

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MAD MAC

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 01:07 am
Kowneyn
And you just succinctly summarized why for the last couple of hundred years the bulk of the Muslim world lives in backward poverty and keeps getting its ass kicked in every war it ever fights. You look at everyone through the prism of religion. A backward way of thinking. Someone wants to be your friend and help you out and you look at him as Kufaar. Sometimes I wonder why I like you guys so much. I guess it's because you're a lot more reasonable in person than on the net.
Reference Lieberman, if the guy does good work for the country who cares what his religion is? You sound like a red neck from down south - only of course he'd be citing the bible instead of the qur'an.

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analyzer

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 02:51 am
mad head,
ethiopia is the greatest country on the face of the earth.....of course, they took ogaden and their leaders neglected it, but by people, they are GREEEAAAATT!!! i mean GREAT....or at least, their chicks are.......

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Laascaanoodi

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 03:48 am
Mad Mac
**FYI** The reason it seems that Muslims are getting their asses kicked is because of the Arabs.
they fight wars under the Arab Flag, for the past 100 years they never fought under the Muslim Flag.
so lets not mix things up here. Arabs are getting their asses kicked an I am enjoying it, because they claim Arab Hood before ISLAM HOOD.
so let it be, i never had problem with Jews and I never will.
Jews are helping their people what are Arabs doing?
they are Destroying their countries.
so why should i have problem with it?

When Hurricane hit Florida the Arabs pledge 100 million Dollar aid, and in the same toking when our nation-Somalia-was in flames they did nothing to help, however they contributed by not accepting one Somali in to their nations in fact they were sending them back so they can be executed.

why should i care about the Arabs?
Screw them all.

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Laascaanoodi

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 04:04 am
Mad Mac
**FYI** The reason it seems that Muslims are getting their asses kicked is because of the Arabs.
they fight wars under the Arab Flag, for the past 100 years they never fought under the Muslim Flag.
so lets not mix things up here. Arabs are getting their asses kicked an I am enjoying it, because they claim Arab Hood before ISLAM HOOD.
so let it be, i never had problem with Jews and I never will.
Jews are helping their people what are Arabs doing?
they are Destroying their countries.
so why should i have problem with it?

When Hurricane hit Florida the Arabs pledge 100 million Dollar aid, and in the same toking when our nation-Somalia-was in flames they did nothing to help, however they contributed by not accepting one Somali in to their nations in fact they were sending them back so they can be executed.

why should i care about the Arabs?
Screw them all.

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Hargeysa

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 09:10 am
lol laascaanood daroodkiina ineey carab aa nahay ku faanaan ma ogid miyaa

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anonymous.

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 10:03 am
Hadda ka hor sayidkaa la yiri carab kaalmo u doono oo ha ku caawiyeen. wuxuu ku jawaabey sidan:


Waa calako meel yuruurtiyo canug aan weynaane
waa ciiryaamo roob da'ahayiyo ciiro iyo qiiqe
waa baradho ceeriine iyo xuubka caarada e

Cudud ma leh col kula weerar gala ciidan iyo xooge
Inkastooy cid kuu soo diraan waa cidloo kala e
Caloosha iyo madaxey sidii dumar cantuugaane
MAANDHOW CAYAAYIRKA IGA DAA CARABI WAA NAAGE.

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The Truth

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:13 am
The negroes that are losers in every way are the ones in this page and their people(the Somalis)
What a lost people!
i have nothing to say
Peace!

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Anonymous

Saturday, August 12, 2000 - 01:13 am
Kowneyn
JEWISH RULES
JEW POWER
SHALOM

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Alipapa

Saturday, August 12, 2000 - 08:16 am
Bootaan;

For your future reference, Uncle Alipapa has a problem to deal with Somali women *only* when it comes to have them as a wife. Apart from that, He uncle Ali, sees somali women as his sisters and love them to succeed in their lives. In facat you have no idea how his joy he feels when he sees a young successfull somali chick. Or even one who is trying to. Nor does he mind to lend them a helping hand. I guess, you bastard,'ve seen the light now.


Asha;

You took me into a great surprise when you said you will support Bush. And your first reason was he is not pro jews.
Well, Asha, you are free to vote to whom you want to. And your vote is your born rights, but let me ask one thing. What is that you have against jews?. Is it because you bought the Arab propaganda or you have any persnal vendetta against them. For your info jews are considered minorities here in N-america. And to work with them is our best interest when we are here. Believe we are enjoying many rules they lobbied for as immigrants. Because they are discriminated against as we , they are the ones who are advocating the people of the color. And that is where we share common interest. please also know to be anti-jews are big crime here is US. it is called anti-semitic. and it is a bomb. you better watch out big girl!.

alipapa,

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MAD MAC

Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 10:25 pm
Alipapa
Sahib, that was way too insightful. Most Somalis are anti-semitic because they are convinced that their Muslim brotherhood with the Arabs supercedes all else. I have always found it bizarre how Somalis don't find it un-Islamic to kill each other indiscriminantly based on something as trivial as clan but rally around the flag of a people they don't know and have nothing in common with other than religion. I guess some things go beyond analyses.

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Kutubeey

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 05:38 am
Kutubeey

Alipap
Common Pal, Can You Elucidate Us Why You Have Problem Dealing With Somali-Women Only When It Comes To Have Them As A Wife (As You Said It) And No Problem With Them When You are Dating Or Having Them As One-Nightstands Or (Whichever Terms You Use)???? Whatever Your Answer Might Be, Man You Have No In Business Calling/ Referring Us To 'CHICKs' Whatsoever, Get My Drift !!! It's Like Women Calling You 'DOG'. How Would You Feel About That -Eventhought There Are Similarities Between Men And Dogs - Definitely You'll Get Pissed Off.. Nevertheless, You Made Me/Us Proud When You Said That You Love Us To Succeed In Our Lives But The Chick Part Irritated The Hell Out Of Me And I'm Sure Lots of Women Would Be Too. However, One Thing I Found Out Is That You Have No Respect Towards Women And That's One Of The Problem Why You Can't Have Them (Somali-Woman) As A Wife. I'm Sure You Could Have As Many Women As You Want If You Are Kinda Guy That Women Want To Have In Their Lives No Matter Whether They Are Black/Blue/Yellow/Somali etc. Remember Mama Said! Marriage/Love Is A Game Of Give And Take. AliBuube, Not Only Are You Suffering From Not Enduring Somali Women But You Are Also Suffering Not Understanding Them, Which Is One Of The SIX Love-Needs Women Have. And For Crying Out Loud Why Am I Getting The Feeling That You Are A Kinda Guy Who Beats Up Women When They Are Vulnerable And Need To Cry On Your Shoulder?
DAMN!!!


Well, The Jews Part!!! I Was Gona Say Something But I Rather Keep It. However, I Only See That You Allowed MacMad To Take A Part In That Concern And Condemn Us (Somalis) As He Always Wanted To

Anyway Peace

Kutubeey Has Left The Building

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Alipapa

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 06:44 am
mad mac:

I guess you absolutely right. And it is easy for you to see and point out our cultural short comings. But hey evey society has its out biased and prejuidice againt other cultures. So as Americans. and thanks for leting us know our bias.

Kutubeey;

Hey, you seem taking my words out of proportion. I didn't say that i 've no problem with somali women it comes to dating or one night stand. i quit both dating them , too. if that makes you happy. and about one night standing? huhuhuhu i never had one with somali woman. The problem i hve with somali women is even if i approach a whore, she will pretend to saint or the virgin marry.And she want me to believe that she never did it. And i've to beg her and cry under her feet. And guess what?no matter how hard i try to convince her to let me in at end i would go thirstfull and hungery as well. I don'tk now why. But i was told and i am too good to be lost.And that is why even every somali whore wouldn't let me go. They think if she let me in, that will be the last time she would see me alive. for that reason and otehrs known to Allah, i stopped to think somali women as women. I think them as men. Believe me, they don't even turn me on. Now i 've all those somali women hanging with me in the name of friendship and i refer to them as my male friends.

About chick part, my apology is on the way. have it ok?
alipapa

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MAD MAC

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 10:33 pm
Kutubey and Alipapa
Don't get me wrong. Like you said, all societies have their shortcomings. Let's take mine for example. Very self-indulgent. Always convinced that the American way is the best way. And the worst is that psychopath we have for sec state, Bomb Sight Albright. She's more aggressive than Abdi Hassan Awale. Just because I'm not hesistant to highlight Some Somali shortcomings doesn't mean I don't see their great strengths. If I didn't love Somalis I wouldn't be hanging out with them all the time.

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Laascaanoodi

Tuesday, August 15, 2000 - 02:36 am
Hargeysa,
You missed the point, don't worry its nothing new for IIDOOR males to over look the big picture and put their focus on a tiny spot.
we were talking about***The topic was American Politics Jack ass*** STOP fOCUSING ON THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE WHO POSTED THE MESSAGE AND FOCUS ON THE MAIN TOPIC. YOUR FOCUS WAS ON laascaanood RIGHT?
In aad xabad Gadh xajisa tahay way muuqataa
hadaad nin dhalada ahaan lahayd oo Habar Jecla ah saa u maad hada sheen isaaqna horu mar gaadhi maayo ilaa habar **Jeclo hogaan ka Qabato**....

HABAR JECLO RULES<<<

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Waryaa

Tuesday, August 15, 2000 - 10:18 am
Salama...

Mad-Cap:

You attributed that we have had nothing--absolutely nothing--in common with our Arab brethren than a religion.

Well, sir, you might be mistaken about that.

Investigate and explorer our language, then you will surely know that one-fifth of our words are derived from aRABIc lingo.

Forget about a bit of our culturalism that we closely pertain and associate with them.

Quite Peace!!

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MAD MAC

Tuesday, August 15, 2000 - 10:17 pm
Waryaa
Actually I meant the Palestinians, not all Arabs. But if I said that I stand corrected. Obviously there is a long historical connection between the Arabs (esspecially Yemenis and Arabs on the Southern Arabian peninsula) and the Somalis. What I really meant is besides religion Somalis have no siginificant connection to the Palestinians. No economic or political ties. Jordan does. Egypt does. Syria does. The Iraqis and Iranians just enjor being nuisances to their neighbors. The bottom line is that Somalis don't have a dog in the fight. The US wouldn't either except for the damn oil.

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Waryaa

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 10:25 am
Salama...

True we have no mutual relationship that connects our Falestine brethren than in faith, however since they are descendants of Arab, we must, thus, inter-connected to one another--they are the member of Arab League, so are we.

They speak aRABIc, so are 10-percent of our words. They border with Arab world--besides with Israelized Zionism.

Since, they share with the rest of Arab world, then we must re-inter-connected with one other; hence, we support them.

Quite Peace!!

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Mahmoud

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 10:49 am
Dear Gentlemen,
Here is a list of similarities we have with the Falestines :
- We are both Arabs (even if many of us refuse to be).
- We are Sunni muslims.
- We are members of the Arab league.
- We have the same problems. (Our country does not exist).
- We are the poorest amongst the poor.


I guess that some of you hate them, then you have no knowledge of the Quran that says that we must stand for our muslim brothers, as if we had the same mother, and we must trea them as our brothers as we would treat our own brother.
So please stick by the Sunna of the prophet (sws).

Since, we have nothing in our country to be proud of, we should stick to brotherhood with our Palestinian brothers first, whatever the Arabs did, whatever their corrupted leaders did.
This means too, that we don't need war nor hate against Isreal and it's people. Israeli leaders are Zionists by nature so we must only hate those on top for their rascist and bigot policy. Peace is the most beatiful world on earth, and we must deal against our enemies not our friends nor our brothers.

Thank you

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MAD MAC

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 10:52 pm
Waryaa
What I'm saying is that religion should have nothing to do with state policy - not that you have a state right now. So we're stictly talking theory at this point. It is true that the Palestinians have gotten the shaft in the last 50 years. But they brought a lot of that upon themselves. They gave the Jewish leadership opportunities for expansionism that the Jewish leaders took advantage of. Esspecially in 56 and 67. Remember, the Jews have felt under seige for a long time. It didn't help that you had idiots as heads of state like Nasser who refused to acknowledge that Israel had a right to exist. This kind of dogma made the Israelis more entrenched. Couple that with a constant threat of terrorist attack and the Yom Kippur war which almost defeated Israel and it's no wonder the Israelis are as paranoid as they are. In conflict resolution you always have to look at the other side. Israel is a very small country and is surrounded by a people which can be very unreasonable when they want to be. The Israelis have treated the Palestinains poorly, but what would have happened if the Arabs had won the war in 56? They would destroyed Israel and kill the Jews living there. The Jews know this and that's why they are so entrenched. Personally I think the time is ripe for compromise and the establishment of a Palestinian State, but I can understand the fears that the citizens of Israel have.

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Laascaanoodi

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 02:29 am
MADMAC,
I can understand the fears that the citizens of Israel have.
so, what you are saying is that you understand the Jews and not the Arabs right?
so when a Jew kills an Arab its ok, but when an Arab kills a Jew its a crime?

please correct me if I am wrong
because it sure sounds like it.

if that is the case then I understand completely cause I know its part of your culture

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laascaanoodi

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 05:07 am
MadMac
you know was checking your login time and i it came to my attention that you always post your messages between 2-3am that is a odd time to serve the net are you related to Jeffry Dahlmer?
so please let me know so i can take a hike, because i am not ready to be your next meal.
**************************************************
Let us imagine an example. You are, say a peaceable citizen on your way to home from your place of employment. A police sergeant, detecting you in the crowd, approaches you, lays his nast hands on your collar, and informs you that you are under arrest for killing a trolley conductor in Newyork, in 1970. Amazed by the accusation, you decide hastily that the officer has lost his wits, and take to your heels. He pursues you. You continue to run. He draws his revolver and fires at you. He misses you. He fires again and fetches you in the leg. You fall and he is upon you. You prepare to resist his apparently maniacal assault. he beats you into insensibility with his espantoon, and drags you to the patrol car.
Arrived at the watch house you are locked in a room with five detectives, and for six hours they question you with subtle art. You grow angry- perhaps robbed of your customary politeness by the throbbing in your head and leg and answer tartly. they knock you down. having failed to wring a confession fron you, they lock you in a cell, and leave you there all night. Next day the conductors wife comes from newyork to identify you. she astonishes the police by saying that you are not the man who killed her husband.
so, what should be done to the police officers?

you run because you thought he was going to kill you.

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MAD MAC

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 05:30 am
Laascaanoodi
Relax Abowe, I'm not related to Jeffrey Dahmer. I live in Europe. That explains the posting times.
Now what should be done with the officers. The one who fired his weapon did so without proper cause, this would be aggravated assault. The ones who assaulted you - this is simple assault. Both of these groups go to court and the one who did the shooting goes to jail. The others who could have intervened get punished by their department as they deem appropriate for failing to properly perform their duties. You get to sue the entire department and get a lot of money out of the deal. Does that answewr your question.

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DarkmanX

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 08:07 am
This goes out to Mahmoud the black "arab".
When are you going to get it?YOU dont look like an arab(compare your black self to any arab and you are going to have an epiphany).This dude is a product of centuries of cultural colonization that have been imposed on somalis by the arabs in the guise of religion.I got nothing but love for our fellow human beings but that does not mean that I wanna be a friggin arab,nor do i care for their names(I like original somali names just fine!)Please feel free to respond.2ny

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laascaanoodi

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 08:30 am
madmac,
I was just checking if you had a sense of judgement, considering that you are from Europe I am surprised that you have such a great sense of judgement.
in fact you are the first European person that I have encounter with such a sense of judgement.

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Waryaa

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 12:27 pm
Salama...

Your own quote, Mr. Mad-Mac:

"...that religion should have nothing to do with state policy."

Well, we repeatedly said that Islam is not a mere religion that is worshipped, and it is position to be left only when we are at the Masaajids {Mosques).

Islam, contrary, encompasses every single deed an individual performs, intently or involuntarily. Whether it is a community's or a person's gain--it is a complete, broad-full way of life.


The Holy Qur'an glorifies itself:

"Then shall anyone who has done an atom's weight of good, see it!" {99:7}

"And anyone who has done an atom's weight of evil, shall see it!" {99:8}

Also we are inter-bonded because we are a single brotherhood-whether he be a Falestinian or an Afghanistan.

The Noble Qur'an:

"And verily this Brotherhood of yours is a single Brotherhood, and I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore fear Me (and no other)" {23:52}

Quite Peace!!

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MAD MAC

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 11:14 pm
Waryaa
That's my point dude. You need to change your perspective and stop looking at everything with this tint of Islam. I'm not saying your religious values shouldn't impact on your thought - everyone deos that. What I'm saying is you shouldn't claim closer STATE relationships because of that. Other Moslems are NOT neccessarily your brothers (or sisters). Saudis for example, will stick a knife in their own mothers back if they think they will profit from it. They're as bad as the Italians - not that I want to generalize mind you. Islam doesn't address everything and some things it addresses have become somewhat obsolete - like approaches to banking. As for the Palestinian cause, actually the Palestinians have a good case in spite of what Hillary CLinton says. But the Jews have a good case too. And as for Somalis they have nothing to do with this case (no self-interest) and so they should be looking at it from a neutral standpoint and evaluating each side without bias. This "Islam is the Alpha and the Omega" approach will leave you in bed with Al-Itihad types, Shaydan in disguise. Before you know it my poor Somalia ends up looking like Afghanistan and that would suck.

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Komaande

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 06:59 am
PPL Why waste your time on this issue? Why do we care who becomes the next president of America?
Whoever becomes the president America:
1-America will always be controled by the juwish
minority.
2-America will always be the enemy of the muslims.
3-As a muslim,black,immigrants we will never have
a voice in america.

THEREFORE AS THE SOMALI POET SAID DURING WWII

Bal maxaa laba gaal
oo abirsiinyo gudboon
aan midna guusha u siin
midna aan u gumaysan.

salaam.

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Waryaa

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 10:20 am
Salama...{within exception of one}

Re-mark your words,please, Mr. Mad-Cap {or Big-Mac}:

"...Some things it {Islam} addresses have become somewhat obsolete."

The key word is 'obsolete.'

I want to pursue that word.

You want us to convince that a portion of Faith has became to be out-of-date, a passe that cannot familiarized with this historically repeating world.

A question, please:

"Give me instances that the Qur'an or our Shariac couldn't adopt modern-like rules."

Quite Peace!!

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MN man

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 01:55 pm
Altho I don't like getting into American politics but look at this way if ur in America and ur ass is black u have to vote ur ass would be left out.
Democrats look more diversity party then the Republicans. That's why most African Americans are liberals.

When I was watching the Democratic National Convention I saw sing say Muslims would vote Gore/Liberman. I was so piss.

We have 6million Muslims in America and Jews are 6million two. my point we can't have voice

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MAD MAC

Sunday, August 20, 2000 - 11:42 pm
Jalleo
First, allow me to address the issue of having a say. I get one vote. MN Man, so do you. Waryaa, you get one vote too. And guess what, each vote counts just as much as the other. Now if the election is really close and the side you dislike the most wins and those six million Muslims who could have tipped the scales didn't vote, won't they feel stupid.
Waryaa, you just love pulling me deeper into this religious thing. I don't know why. But allright, I'll answer your damn question. Regulation of the Internet. Now I could be wrong, but I did not see anywhere in the Qur'an where it mentions the Internet. Therefore, even Sharia lawmakers would have to INTERPRET the application and establishment of law regarding the internet. Automobiles. I don't remember any section of the Qur'an that sets speed limits or even mentions the Car. Therefore, someone outside of Qur'anic law must do that. You want something that even applied back then: Type of governmental system. I have yet to see anywhere in the Qur'an where it proscribes if there should be a legislature and if so how large this body should be. Do people vote for it or how is it established. Should there be a king? How is he chosen? You see my point. The Qur'an does address many aspects of life, but not all. I've seen people in this very forums ask if Somalia in the future should have a democratic or Islamic government. As if the two were diametrically oppossed. There, you happy now?

Komande
America is not, I say again, is not the enemy of Islam. So give it a rest. America supports the state of Israel. That does not make it an enemy of Islam. America also supports the state of Egypt (to the tune of about 2 Billion dollars a year). America supports the State of Jordan. America supports the Palestinian Authority (another half billion there). America has close ties with Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, UAE, Yemen, Morocco, Tunisia. The west is not at war with Islam, so give it a rest. And if you hate it so much, then why don't you move to one of your beloved Muslim countries instead of just bitching all the time like an old woman.

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Monday, August 21, 2000 - 04:26 am
MaD Mac you crack me up Dude

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Ceelgaab

Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 10:12 pm
MY PRESPECTIVE:

An Israeli doctor said "medicine in my country is so advanced, we can take a kidney out of one person, put it in another, and have him looking for work in six weeks".

A German doctor said, "That's nothing! "In germany we can take a lung out of one person, put it in another, and have him looking for work in four weeks."

A Russian doctor said, "In my country medicine is so advanced that we could take a half a heart from one person, put it in another and have them both looking for work in two weeks."

The American doctor, not to be outdone, said, "Hah! We are about to take an ***hole out of Texas, put him in the White House and half of the country will be looking for work the next day."

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HAHA

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 01:31 am
HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
U CRACK ME UP CEELGAAB THAT WAS FUNNY&TRUE BRO
ONLY IN AMERICA WHERE ANY NUT CASE DUMP ASS ,A WRESTLER..............A HOMELESS CAN RUN FOR PRESIDENT
MONEY TALKS HUH.

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MAD MAC

Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 05:08 am
HAHA
But that's also what makes America great.

Caalgaab
Now that was a great joke.

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Ceelgaab

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 04:38 pm
HAHA:
I'm glad you found it funny. Now, wait for the one about the Somalian politics next week?

MAD: I agree with you, AMERICA is home to all kinds of creatures... although not perfect but is also home to a lot of great people and above all is the land of freedom and free speech. So manny people are dying to achieve just that!
WAY TO GO YANKEES !!!!!!

Here is a related Somalian Qoute/proverb loosely translated in english:

IN SOMALI:
GAAL(kufaar) DIL(kill) GARTIISANA (his/her justice)SII (give) !

get it? I didn't think so.

It basically means: If you're gonna kill a kufaar, at least give him/her dues fairly!

peace to y'll

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MAD MAC

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 09:48 pm
Ceelgaab
You are an interesting parsonality indeed.

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SOMALICOWINTEXAS

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 10:24 am
GEELGAAB THAT WAS VERY FUNNY, I HAVE GOT TO EMAIL THIS TO GOV/NEX-AM-PRES. BUSH.

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SOMALICOWINTEXAS

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 10:26 am
GEELGAAB THAT WAS VERY FUNNY, I HAVE GOT TO EMAIL THIS TO GOV/NEX-AM-PRES. BUSH.

BY THE WAY DO U KNOW THEY GROW "POT, WEED" IN CEELGAAB NOW.

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Ceelgaab

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 07:31 pm
MAD:
Since you think I have an interesting personality. I want to ask If you can profile me? You know, you are an Intelligence officer, I am sure it will not be that difficult for you!!!!!!!!
But let me warn you - I will not accept, if it has anything to do with MOORYAN or JALAF?

SOMALICOWINTEXAS:
Heee Haaa, BRO !

I never knew that you could grow POT on Asphalt or Laami ? Unless of course people looted that as well !!!!!!!

But honestly, I think "HA HA HA" was funnier when he was talking about Governor Jesse Ventura and would like to ask him which ones are the "Nut case and the Homeless ?"
I know CANADA has a prime minister who sometimes hangs out and talks to a Homeless person !!!!!

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MAD MAC

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 10:59 pm
Ceelgaab
I don't do personality profiles as such. At least, that's not the field I'm trained in. I'm a tactical all-source intelligence officer. I.e. a soldier, not a spook.

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L.A.Girl

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 01:10 pm
I have never met a spook who admits he is a spook, and I met with quit a few, but we all know he is spook.His government knows he is a spook, yet it(GOV) denies he is a spook.
How can you tell if a spook is really a spook.
1-He is white(they don't trust Blacks & Jews)
2-He speaks many languages
3-He has been to all the troubled countries(since they caused these countries' problems they like to keep an eye of things).
4-He is always single, twice divorced, or his marriage is in the rocks.
5-He is always hanging around with the foreigners.

Now the question is: is Mac a spook, does he fit the profile of a spook?
hmm! you be the judge. ;)

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MAD MAC

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 12:25 am
L.A. Girl
OK, I fit the profile, almost to a tee as a matter of fact (I've only been married and hence divorced one time). But I'm not a spook. But believe what you want - I don't care.

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