     rude | Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 01:16 am
hi people , i just wanna know why so many gals
hate everything about somalia ,from land , to people , culture and some even critisize da religion,
n why da gals in da west who presented themselves
as being n i qoute" civilised and liberated"
trash somalia?
all those who feel obligated to answer, please
do so ,
p.s as for my personal opinion , all da sisters who feel dat they have nothing with somalia , please cross over , period , end of da story ,
disclaim ur somaliness ,erase da word "somali"
from neuro-pathways,n stop trashing it since
u don't see ur self as being a somali , n please
since u seem so highly intellegent , learn da
difference criticism and trashing , a critic uses
a common logic based on facts not emotions ,
peace to ya all |
| Guilty | Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 03:08 am
They nead consuling if they ashame of who they are |
| IKRAAM | Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 11:54 am
Rude----I was suprised by your question,i mean i knew that there were people like that, but i didn't attribute it to one sex. I haven't yet ran into a somali that berates his country, but when i do, i know it's not going to be pretty.
You must have seen alot of girls like this or you wouldn't have just said "girls"..or maybe you follow the somali rule "wixii xunba xaawaa leh", i serioulsy doubt that last theory but i have to take it into consideration..but anyway, maybe it's the people you hang with????.you know they say "birds of feather flock together"...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm//you got me thinkin.................... |
| Im Amazed | Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 01:54 pm
Dear Rude and ikraam:
I kind of share ur theory u know why iv'e met so many somali males who live in the west educated here but still hold there traditional values u see a somali dude with a funny hair cut wearing earrings ,drinking,smoking,chewing qhat..when u ask him who are u and where u came from they simply answer we're somalis.they're pretty clear about their own identity no doubt.....somali sisters on the other hand the the sooner they pick up few English words and start dressing like western girls all of the sudden they're not Somalis..A while ago i went to this club and seen a somali sister with an African-American dude (this is ok with me u can date whoever u wanna date as long ur not a shamed of urself and ur own people).I being the gentleman I'm i thought i say hi(i now wish i didn't)she gave me a funny look and said :I don't speak somali im not somali.....waw.(this girl came to the united states a year ago).......................................................................is it just me or some somali girls are gone too far .
PS I don't mean to insult anyone it's my own opinion. |
| rude | Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 09:58 pm
hi agian ,thankx for ur inputs , ikraam , iam not
a sexist , i know there are people like dat on
both genders , but wat amaze more are da gals ,
i have seen somali guys disclaiming somalia , but
dat's all they do , gals (atleast da ones dat i know)on other hand not only disclaim but also
trash it (all kinds of negetivity),i have seen a young gal talking about somalia to a stranger whom she meet on da spot ,believe me i haven't heard her say one nice word about somalia or it's people ,she even trashed her own family ,i didn't say
anything to her ,obviously she wasn't worth my
words , wat intrugues me is wat drove her to such
form of self-hatred ,i have seen somali guys who
did alot of •••• ,but they never trash somalia
not atleast in front of a complete stranger dat
they met, n about da dating thing , mr amazed had
a typical experience with a somali gal dat dates
non-somali men , i have known guys who date non-somali , when i see them with their non-somali gal, they still say hi in real nice
way ,gals on da other hand , have real attitude ,
they look at me like if i have killed their parents or something ,i mean , come on , i don't give a dog's •••• about who they date , da only
reason dat i smile at them was coz they were somalis , nothing more , nothing less ,
well anyway , wat i would say is ,if u don't like
somalia ,than simple , disclaim it and leave it
alone , don't trash it in front foriegners ,
believe me , somalia had existed long before u
came around n it will be there long after u are gone ,somalinimo wax la isku baryaayo ma,aha |
| Michigan | Tuesday, August 15, 2000 - 08:51 am
4sure 4sure..........no doupt!!!!!!!!! |
| MAD MAC | Tuesday, August 15, 2000 - 10:31 pm
Rude
At first I thought you meant gaals!! Just shows I'm getting paranoid. I think the reason that woman are faster to reject old Somali values is that Somali society tends to be womewhat misogynistic and in the West woman are assuming more and more power roles. For a young woman this may be very appealing. They see the positive side of living in western society and overlook the exploitative side. It's easy to do and a lot of people get caught up in it. Unfortunately a lot of Somali men haven't helped their cause because they abuse their woman and don't treat them with the respect that the Qur'an requires. |
| bell | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 03:06 am
Rude
no intension to disrespect.
I do not disclaim to be somali, nor do i trash it or say any comments about it since i am not qualified to because i have never set foot in somali. i was born in italy, and raised in italy and england. im now 19yrs and live in in england, go to uni and everything....the thing is i have only dated a somali man in once my whole life, he forgot to mention that he was married and so we broke up....the thing is, that in london all the good somali men are taken and the rest all they be doing all day is eating jaad and and turning into alkis. my father was never there to set an example to me nor was my mother, instead i was shiped to boarding school my the time i was 3yrs old.....i dont trash somalia or its culture nor islam since i'm a muslim myself... just most of the somali men i meet. |
| Amazon XX | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 05:38 am
bell: boarding school at 3!!!! Where the hell is that school? In your imagination! What pre-school is boarding! Get your fact before you speak.
Rude: Maybe the somali women you run into - those dating the foriegners- are so rude because they are UNHAPPY with their choices. We know that Somali women belong with Somali men- so those who are hanging around the gaalo know they are dhilo at heart.
I personally am sick and tired of the "new immigrants" they seem to have adopted what is the worse in their new homes. Cheat, lie, be-lazy, be rude, dress with nothing on, drink and the like. Somalis lived outside of somalia for decades, and We never, I mean never, abandoned our culture. We dressed conservatively, those who drank alchohol were ashamed to do it in public, we stayed within our communities. Today, pple don't even say hello to each other. Women and MEN with bottles of beer have become the norm........ What an utter waste. |
| bell | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 04:37 pm
Excuse u amozon xx but italy does not have pre school u start school at 3 so u get ur facts right...
but then again i see y i dont date somali men when i meet guys like u who all they do is diss and blame their sisters instead of treating them right |
| rude | Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 09:50 am
hi people , well i didn't say i was angry about
our women dating non-somalis , dat's ok with me ,
i believe everybody has a choice , dat i respect ,
my point was if u don't like somalia n disclaim,
well forget everything about it n abonden it ,
it shouldn't be your cup of tea everytime u feel
like talking trash,
bell , well sis iam sorry u had such a bad experience with somali guys( atleast da one u
mentioned) ,however not everyone of us is like dat ,i know dat they are lot addicted to da khat
n da bottle ,they are certianly lossers ,i hope
u meet da rite guy ,
amazonxx ,u r rite bro, they are alot guys who are
here in da west for so long n they haven't change
a bit ,my bro came to da states in 1980 ,n he still da same guy ,da recent arrivals however change way too quick ,
p.s just note , my massages are reffering to certian gals not all , |
