     Waryaa | Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 11:13 am
Salama...{Within exception of one}
Spectators join, please.
Attentively, yet, curiously, I had read those sentences that the Defendant, Mad-Mac, was uttering in different unaccustomed territories of Somalinet.com/forums. What most of those different modes of words that I came across mostly astonished me--not that personally, but philosophically and reasonably--was that the Litigant repeatedly had kept to believe systematically that our Holy Book--Kitabul Al-Kariim--wasn't an infallible Word of Allah.
He was--and, is--not trying to elucidate any reasonable technical explanation that would explicitly tell us why he firmly stands to his words.
Yes, man could believe anything, I said anything, because that is one of the gist and fundamental rights that was given him to have--his freewill. And, I, therefore, respect that. I need not to simply argue that why didn't, doesn't, he believe--aside from the misunderstood cynicism--our Noble Book, the Qur'an, not to be the word-for-word from our Almighty. It is not my intention to enforce him to believe what he believes not. That job is the Will of Allah; none could guide anybody without the Will of Allah.
However, I have a one remaining, mind-boggling question that puzzled me since I had encountered his words. That question is simple, yet enigmatic. It is evident, yet mystifying. It is obvious, yet indefinite. It is easy to raise, hard to authenticate.
And that burning question is:
"Why?"
Show us, O' Thou Mad-Mac, one word from our Sacred book that contradicts itself or seems to be discrepant; whether it is scientifically, historically, geographically, physically, or any other field that the Qur'an mentions upon.
You are not validating this particular point, but you are adamantly persisting that the Qur'an is NOT reliable because it is not purely word-for-word from Allah--or perhaps you believe it is altered because a mere human-being wrote it down. Well, if that is the case:
"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption) {15:9}
I, last, but certainly not even a bit least, want you to verify for not believing the Holy Qur'an to be unfailing Word of Allah.
If you simply believe that it is NOT Word of Allah because Mad-Mac says so, that is then we need not to argue--because it plausible and bravado to do so.
Quite Peace!! |
| jUDGE JUDY | Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 11:35 am
The state court of Toronto denies the plea against the defandant:popularly known as 'kufaar'(mad mac)..on the grounds of idolism and unfounded claims.The court orders waryaa to have a LIFE and one year propation.The sentence will commence in the near future.COURT ADJOURNED! |
| Waryaa | Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 11:57 am
Salama...
Your Honour, no further question; however, I dare to challenge how suitable your credence leads to qualify to hold a post authority of this.
"Is Toronto a state?"
Quite Peace!! |
| hebel | Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 12:01 pm
I say SHOOT! him...shoot the freak I say and then throw his body into the sea.
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I never liked the guy anyways....But I got nothing against him....Just don't like the guy that's all. |
| JUDGE JUDY | Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 12:21 pm
On Behalf of the city of Toronto,pending case of 'The people vs defandant Kufaar(mad mac),i hereby rule 'case dismissed'!In Addition,Waryaa is sentence to one year in mental evaluation unit for further tests experiment courtesy of University of Toronto.My ruling was based on waryaa's incompatent closing arguement.it was misguiding and budgering.The court of Toronto does not tolerate any personal inuendoes practiced in such a low manner!CASE DISMISSED!NEXXXXXXXXXXXT CASE? |
| Waryaa | Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 12:32 pm
Salama....
Your Honour, please forgive me again, again.
You did not answer the question that was based on how proficient you were when you mindlessly uttered to those words:
"The State court of Toronto denies..."
Again, the question is:
"Is Toronto a state?"
No further, at this moment, question.
Quite Peace!! |
| JUDGE JUDY | Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 02:05 pm
WARYA
KWENDA ZAKO WEWE. |
| Gaalkacyo | Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 09:01 pm
judge judy waa sharmuutadi "SHE" la oranjirey magacey soo badalatay gaalkaan eey dabo dhaqleeysaa qofki wax ka sheegana oogadeey ka kortaa
she is whore who puts gaal b4 her ppl |
| MAD MAC | Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 11:04 pm
Gaalkacyo
Man, stop writing like moron. If Allah in his wisdom deprived you of a brain then consult with your brethren before posting.
Waryaa
How in hell did we get on this subject again? I'm not a deeply spiritual man. Can't you just let it go and stick with politics? Or at a minimum restrict this stuff to the Islam posting.
Hebel
Man, you don't even know me and you want to shoot me? You remind me of something my old boss said when learning about my planned return to Somalia - He said "Mac, Just remember the Somalis tend to shoot first and think later." |
| qahar | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 12:30 am
mad mac
looooooooooooooooooooooooooool........shoot first and think later... huh...as former marine I bet you won't feel outsider in that enviroment...why be a victim when you can be otherwise. mother of all evolution. |
| MAD MAC | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 01:31 am
Qahar
I like that, mother of all evolution. Are you a former Marine or where you alluding to Moi? Because I am Army and I am not former, I'm still on active duty. |
| Kutubeey | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 07:05 am
Kutubeey
Judge Judy….. Seems Like That You Are On Elicit Drugs? The Way You Badgered The Plaintiff Was An Acceptable… So Sista Judy; You Ought To Be Incarcerated. Mr. Waryaa Was Representing Himself As Both Defendant And Lawyer, Well Done!!! And Yet, Your Charge Of His Wrongdoing Didn't Give Him A Legitimate Answer Why He Should Go To Jail… I Found Your Conclusion Nothing But Which Is Without Substance In The Sense Of That It Is Authorize Nothing More Than A Set Of Your Pathetic Idea … Yeah!!! People Versus MadMac In Many Different Ways, And You There Have A Huge Favoritism For Him " Defendant Called Mac-Mad". Nevertheless; I, Myself, Have Nothing Against Him, Coz I Don't Know Him Whether He's Faking His Kufarism Or He Born In Kufar . However, I Hate Him When He Condemns Our Beloved Religion Islam.
Hebel I Thought You Died Long Time Ago... Good To See You Alive. Remember, Hate Is A Crime...
Peace
Kutubey Has Left The Building |
| Sweetgirl | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 07:05 am
"Somalis shoot first and then think later", that's just what I would expect a typical American to say, they're so close minded and so eager to judge.
Mad Mac if you're not deeply spritual then why don't keep your two cents worth to yourself, you're always judging and criticizing, how could you expect anything but war man. |
| Waryaa | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 10:10 am
Salama...{within exception of one}
Your own words, Mr. Mad-Mac:
"...I'm not a deeply spiritual man."
Allow me elaborate, sir.
Today you are saying that you are, indeed, not an acutely and sincerely spiritual man. However, you believe that the Holy Qur'an is not Word of Allah, which means you studied, meditated, and finally concluded that is not worth to be called a 100-percent Word of Allah.
If you had had read it, and comprehended it with your heart. And concluded that it was merely an ancient Book, an outmoded book that has nothing to do with this pampering society. It might be your pompous choice to declare so.
However, still my question remains in the midst of the air:
"What part of the Qur'an that you do not believe or is an archaic that cannot adopt this comtemporary?"
Quite Peace!! |
| Waryaa | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 10:39 am
Salama...{within exception of one}
Your Honour:
Sasa Gaani, Sujuu-yaako, Ummbaya kabisa!! |
| judge judy | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 10:55 am
warya
I thought i ordered you to mental evaluation?You are in court contempt!sentence reversed to one year in prison.nexxxxxxxxxxxxxt case. |
| Sweetgirl | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 12:43 pm
SWEETGIRL VS THE INFIDELS AT SOMALI NET
I have this doubt about Father Michaels and Mad Mac being the same person. This Father Michael character is supposed to be some kind of christian missionary, who is spreading his radical thoughts of how jesus is God. He is familiar with the quran and keeps on quoting it, and says that the Quran is a replica of the Bible(as if). He is attacking our religion.
Mad Mac is suppose to be this soldier who has lived in Somalia and is very familiar with the somali culture and the various clans, and attacks the somalis politically.
I think there is a conspiracy here. Waryaa how about you and me declare a war on these infidels? What say you bro? |
| She | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 03:09 pm
Mad Mac is the best. He is better than Somali men. |
| Sweetgirl | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 05:06 pm
She devil, traitor, gaal lover!!!!! |
| homesick. | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 06:20 pm
No wonder both father micheals and Mad appeared at the same time on the net. He spreads his disbelieve by way of jokes and fake love to all somalis. It is the tale tale sign of an evangelist. Agreeing with many subjects of the Quran and denying some to create doubts in people whose example is plenty in here. He and his ACWAN call people to accept the unacceptable by way of tolerance and liberty. What has liberty and tolerance have to do with screwing up people's beliefs?. Often times he claimed the Quran is among his beliefs while he rejects it in the same rhetoric. He can't defend his lies but chooses to evade the facts with more stupid reasoning. See how he cites tribal trash and wants to create tension among idiots who don't know any better. I wish Mad has what it takes to come out of the dark and challenge all that we believe in. Have you noticed how he claims he is not CHRISTIAN yet vehemently defends trinity?. I challenge you MAD and your no-brainer supporters to defend your beliefs instead of hiding behind the power and wisdom of islam. Always taking refuge in islam to do your dirty tricks and insult our feelings. It came to my attention that you knew about the evangelist guy named salvatore colombo and his missionary in somalia. The question is how did you know all about this when you went to somalia with THE UNITED NATIONS?. Also how else could you know the other missionary who couldn't succeed converting somalis?. I don't like people who take advantage of fools and dummy muslims. Rest assured that I am watching your moves and will untie all your traps for the sickos and weaklets. |
| The real She | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 07:39 pm
Ha ha ha! I didn't say that.....
Galkacyo
What is your freaking problem mother F****?
Sweetgirl
Watch yer mouth.......
Waryaa
Me think Quraan is made up by the genius "prophet Mohamed"
I also think Abu Hureyra guy was "big-liar" ooops meant to say he was very very creative man....By making up hadith's maa cadadnaa ma xisaabnaa ah...
Reason being he never lived with prophet Mohamed and if he did it was very short time and there is no way he could gather all that info even if the prophet talks non stop for night and day............Bottom line is some of us think the quraan is man made.....
Wa bilaahi towfiiq.. |
| homesick. | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 10:06 pm
First to my true somali and muslim people:
These two unbelieving individuals namely Mad and His co-worker SHE are harmless. They won't do any damage to a believing muslim, knowledgable and active muslim who reads the Quran daily. All secrets including the ones for these two childish humans are revealed in the Quran and Allah says:
"Secret counsels(conspiracies) are only from satan, in order that he may cause grief to the believers. But he can't harm them in the least, except as Allah permits, and in Allah let the believers put their trust"58:10
Both SHE and Mad can do nothing against the majestic Quran so they circle around useless reasonings and sometimes stupid and laughable fabrications. She is worse for SHE has a book called the book of profanity which SHE quotes All the time and we all saw how foul and stinky that book reads when SHE writes from it.
Secondly..
And what do we muslims think of the Quran is the more important question ONE should ask? Others take the back seat please). Allah Almighty says:
"And that those who have been given knowledge may know that it (this Quran) is the truth from your LORD, and that they may believe therein, and their hearts may submit to it with humility. And verily, Allah IS THE GUIDE OF THOSE WHO BELIEVE, to the straight Path"Al-hajj:53
The reason SHE and Mad try in vain to throw falsehood on the Quran is the deep rust that overtook their heart after they disbelieved in Allah almighty for Allah says:
"And those who disbelieve will not cease to be in doubt about it(the Quran)untill the hour comes upon them suddenly, or there comes to them the torment of the day after which there will be no night"22:55
SHE wrote in her excitament:"Me think Quraan is made up by the genius "prophet Mohamed" .
SHE is not the first disbeliever to claim that one too. It had been said before and recently by MAD&CO. In fact that was said thousand and some years ago. In short since I have no time and have more duties to do I quote from the Quran the Exact Answer Allah gave both MAD and SHE and it reads:
"Do their minds command this Or are they people exceeding the bounds"
"Or do they say He"Muhammad scw" Forged it(this Quran)?" Nay! they believe not!."
"Let them then produce a recital like unto it if they are truthful"52:32-34
The ball as always is in their court but I know MAD had some excuse before and he can repeat it twice or thrice or multiples of time if he wishes. She..Naaah.. no brainer.
by your brother????? |
| Sweetgirl | Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 08:18 am
Homesick akhi, you're so full of hikmah, may allah increase it. Know that Sweetgirl is behind you 100%. You know "The believing men and women are helpers of one another......"
She
"Me thinks........" I don't give a rat's ass about you think gaalayahay. keep your stupid opinions to yourself. If you're a christian, then it's the bible's authenticity you should be worried about. Did you know that Jesus preached about one God, 30 years or so after his death a man by the name of St. Paul who used to execute the christians arose, claimed that he has seen Jesus in a vision(as if), and then all of sudden he is preaching this trinity thing, you know with the father?? the son!!!!!and the holy ghost(scaaary). Talk about creativity. Sweetgirl gives him three thumbs up.You talk about Abu Hurayrah living with the prophet for a short span of time then how do you explain St. Paul. If you're not a christian then what the hell are you? and I'll give it to you straight up.
I am outa here. |
| n@n@_bOO | Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 08:23 am
Nacalaa waxaa tahay ku yaalo, sharmuutayahay, gaaladaa tahay was. Dhilo. |
| Waryaa | Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 10:48 am
Salama....
Glad to see you supporters by defending our Faith above all.
HomeSick, Thanks for exemplifying for their reluctance to answer my question--that was what I thought so, they have no substantial evidence. No! No! Not even a frail confirmation.
SweetGirl:
I am in your Bandwagon.
She:
If You think You are a 'She,' thinks I, then, She is a 'pronoun' than a noun. And, I, thus, concluded You either doesn't exist because there is no noun, only a pronoun or You are programmed--or technically speaking these days, a cloner of Mad-Cap--that You are a 'She' that neither knows her existence nor her presence.
Hence, I conclude, above all, You don't exist--only a replica of Mad-Cap-Mac!
Quite Peace!! |
| ceelgaab | Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 04:00 pm
Hello Everyone,
First of all, I like to say that you all are interested enough to talk about the issues presented here - but, one thing that disturbs me the most is the low level swear words used by many of you here.
If say, one of our native daughters seems to be taking sides with someone who is of other religion than our's or someone who is allegedly our enemy (former or current), we should try the power of persuasion not "cay" slandering or subjecting to her all the abuses that I have seen posted here.
Our forefathers dealt with it in words of wisdom "xikma" and "talo/waano" advise....Because, we risk being further alienating her !
PS. Dear SHE, open your mind and remember that there two sides to every story you hear.
Peace to y'll
ceelgaab |
| Father Michael | Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 07:37 pm
Christianity
Introduction
Christianity is a religion practised by nearly 2,000 million people worldwide.
It originated in Palestine in the 1st century AD and is founded on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ [4BC-29AD], a Palestinian Jew.
There are 6 million active Christians in the UK, but over 35 million in Britain would regard themselves as nominally Christian.
There are many different variations or "denominations". The major division is between Orthodox and Western Christianity (which itself is divided into Roman Catholicism and Protestantism).
From the beginning, Christianity has sought to convert people, however, many Christians today feel there should still be respect for what is good and true in other cultures and religions.
Christianity -Index
Basic Christianity
The Life of Jesus Christ
The Main Branches of Christianity |
| Ceelgaab | Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 09:24 pm
Dear Father Michael,
Thanks for the historical background you think you'd shed lights on ! But, you are forgetting one thing. Most of the people in this discussion group know all too well what christianity is !
I for one fail am confused about your intention? or your lack of knowledge about my community. Somalians are 100% Sunni Muslims - we have been like that for many centuries. as a matter of facts , Somalians were one of the first Nations who accepted Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him) and his revelation from Allah (Islam - and the Koran) which means, they are not interested in becoming christians nor will they ever be. If for instance, you are only educating us about it in a way that is confined to knowledge and historical prespective, then thats fine. But otherwise, do not waste your time when you have got other blacks in which your churches have already converted.
Those people will appreciate lessons of this kind.
Our Koran talks in details about "prophet Issa" Jesus, the stories of his time, how he came about in this wordl, his mother "Maryama" marry and the miracles that Allah gave him.
Dear Father Michael, I am a grown man now but I knew this when I was a little boy in Somalia just like all other fellow Somalians.
We Somalians, Have been taught about our religion "Islam" and our heritage and values very well at an early age.
On the other hand, If you want to debate about who is right and wrong, its entirely a different issue.
May allah show you the righteous path.
Ceelgaab |
| homesick. | Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 09:59 pm
I have a better introduction of christianity right out of the book My man!.
1- GOD: God is three gods merged into one God. This merging of gods is called trinity. All those three gods are co-equal,co-eternal,the same as one.
2- JESUS: this one is a little bit confusing even to the father michales DUDE SO GUYS BEAR WITH ME AND HERE IT GOES: The second member of the Triune God, the Son of the first part of the Triune God, and at the same time "fully" God in every respect.
3- Holy spirit: The third member of the Triune God, but also "fully" God in every respect.
4- Mary(for catholics): the second member of the Trinity, the Son of God, and at the same time "fully" God Almighty in every respect.
That is the basics. Now let us see who fabricated anything in the reilgion of god and wrote unbelievable comments in it. And also let us see who is in a worse situation US muslims or them christians who follow ST PAUL the fabricator by nature and liar by trade and racist by flock to a degree where he thought only nonjews sin.
"[Gal. 2:15]"We ourselves, who are Jews by birth and not Gentile sinners."
St paul was so heedless he wrote about god whatever he wanted. Look what kind of god he teaches in the bible:
"[Gen. 32:22] Jacob wrestled God who said to him, "Let me go; for the day is breaking" But Jacob said, "I will not let you go unless you bless me. And he said to him, "What is your name? And he said "Jacob" Then the Lord said, "Your name shall be no more called Jacob but Israel, for you have striven with God and with men, and have prevailed. Then Jacob asked him, "Tell me, I pray your name. But he said, "Why is it that you ask my name?".
Not only this but he claims that he can do whatever he wants right in the bible. It came to my mind that MAD is following exactly the same path look at this:
"[2 Sam. 22:27] With the pure you show yourself pure, and with the crooked you show yourself perverse.
Since muslims have crooked faith why not treat them crooks and say whatever you want say about them or their faith. Isn't that what these disbelievers doing in the somalinet?.
The man who wrote so much of the bible(St Paul) couldn't shy away even ordering people what they were not supposed to do.
"[Gal. 5:2] Behold, I Paul, say unto you, that if you be circumcised Christ shall profit you nothing." Look at this madness!. I think paul was out there to devastate the innocent followers of jesus intentionally. The big saint speaks behold people:
"[1 Corin. 9:19] Paul said: I made myself slave to all, that I might win the more. To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews. To those under the law I became as under the law-though not being under the law- that I might win those under the law. To those outside the law I became as one outside the law-not being without law toward God but under the law of Christ."
That is why it was easy to for him to fake all the way to Z. In fact he TOLD THE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS that they didn't need jesus any more as an example or prophet of god and he said:
"[Gal. 5:4] Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law, YOU ARE FALLEN FROM GRACE."
"[Heb. 8:13] Paul said, "In that He [God] said, "A new covenant." He had made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old: is ready to VANISH AWAY."
He meant all the teachings of Jesus because he wanted people to follow his version. He had no respect for JESUS PEACE BE UPON HIM;
"[Gal. 3:13]Paul said: Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us. (Let those who truthfully love Jesus the Christ remember that this great Prophet was cursed in their Bible. For it is enough and great blasphemy
in Islam to refer to Jesus such horrible description. High is Jesus above what their description of him.) For it is written: Cursed be everyone who hangs on a tree."
Jesus was cursed to Paul the man christians claim is the perfect model for their faith. I have true introduction for you somalis about the guy who wrote the bible. Let us here him expalin himself in his own words:
"[Gal 2:15] He said: We who are Jews by nature, and NOT SINNERS of the Gentiles. [Rom. 7:15]
But he also said: I do not understand my own action. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate.
Now if I do what I do not want, I agree that the law is good. So then it is no longer I that I do it, but SIN WHICH DWELLS WITHIN ME, that is in my flesh.
I can will what is right, but I can not do it, for I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I do.
Now if I do not want, it is no longer that I do it, but SIN WHICH DWELLS WITHIN ME. So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right evil lies close at hand.
For I delight in the law of God in my inmost self. but I see my members another law at war with the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of SIN WHICH DWELLS IN MY MEMBERS.
Wretched man that I am, who will deliver me from this body of death. (I will suggest that you present Paul's confession to the Born agains' and ask them how come the spirit of Evil fits in his holy body of a saint and hinders him from doing good, while he has the spirit of God in him at the same time revealing to him your new testament which you recite today? what is the use of the Holy spirit if it does not defeat that evil spirit in his body, it is impossible for you to receive the Holy Spirit. Therefore you so not have the
Holy Spirit in your bodies, but there is "A SPIRIT" in it.) "
Sorry guys I would like to finish this but the time won't let me but I promise inshallah to be back with more of christian stuff that MAD&CO combined with the FAKE FATHER MICHAELS CAN HANDLE.
Sweetgirl.
thank you very much sister and Waryaa thanks to you too. Bal ninkey u daran tahay aan aragno haleys ixtiraamo waa la waayaye ha leys ruugo marka. |
| homesick. | Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 10:04 pm
ceelgaab.
these people mean bussiness. Let them introduce what they wanna introduce. |
| ceelgaab | Sunday, August 20, 2000 - 04:21 pm
homesick - I like the name/feeling ?
I feel the same way about my beloved home, SOMALIA
As far as i ma concerned people like Father Michael and MAD MAC have shown little regard if any thing about our religion, culture, heritage and pride as Somali people. So someone has to tell them it is not so.
ceelgaab |
| Xoogsade | Sunday, August 20, 2000 - 08:00 pm
She:
You said:
"Me think Quraan is made up by the genius prophet Mohamed"
Do you know how improbable that sounds? Specially for a man of his background as a modest trader, albeit one of singular and exceeding personal and professional integrity.
That any one man can invent the Quran is about as probable as my establishing the "Grand Unified Theory" of physics.
In fact this argument went out as a credible theory close to two hundred years ago, because of its sheer improbability. Now they have a new one which they say is backed by archeological findings and other scientific research but I am sure this one too will be found wanting in the face of the stability of truth in our holy quran and Islam will, as always, continue to bury its undertakers. |
| MAD MAC | Sunday, August 20, 2000 - 11:04 pm
Home Sick, Sweetgirl, et al.
Listen to my words carefully here. I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU BELIEVE. I DO NOT CARE WHAT ANYONE BELIEVES IN TERMS OF RELIGIOUS ORIENTATION. YOU COULD WORSHIP MARTIANS AND I COULD NOT CARE LESS.
You morons got that? How many different ways do I have to say it?????? I'm not trying to convert anyone to anything. Someone asks me a question about MY BELIEFS. I answer them and suddenly all of you religious freaks start assuming that I'm trying to convert you to what I believe. Stop assuming I think like you do and am obsessed that I am right about religion and you are wrong.
As for insulting, can you guys take a joke? Lighten up a little. Anyone who reads what I seriously write can see in a New York minute that I am committed to Somalia and Somalis (not their spiritual selves just their economic and social development). |
| MAD MAC | Sunday, August 20, 2000 - 11:08 pm
Home Sick, Sweetgirl, et al.
Listen to my words carefully here. I DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU BELIEVE. I DO NOT CARE WHAT ANYONE BELIEVES IN TERMS OF RELIGIOUS ORIENTATION. YOU COULD WORSHIP MARTIANS AND I COULD NOT CARE LESS.
You morons got that? How many different ways do I have to say it?????? I'm not trying to convert anyone to anything. Someone asks me a question about MY BELIEFS. I answer them and suddenly all of you religious freaks start assuming that I'm trying to convert you to what I believe. Stop assuming I think like you do and am obsessed that I am right about religion and you are wrong.
As for insulting, can you guys take a joke? Lighten up a little. Anyone who reads what I seriously write can see in a New York minute that I am committed to Somalia and Somalis (not their spiritual selves just their economic and social development). |
| homesick. | Monday, August 21, 2000 - 01:28 am
MAD.
Oh I am moved! How convincing and honest of you mister chaplain(ooops! I can't help but say it). I don't care what the hood you believe in but the minute I see you crossing the line you can count me in the march. And I find it fairy tale that you like somalis and somalia considering your background unless there is substantial reason for you to do that. If islam doesn't connect you to somalis I don't think ecenomic development and buhu bahaa is your concern. We made progress so far without your western buddies sniffing around and selling their termination programs to us and we will do fine.
Xoogsade.
This archeology campaing to disprove the Quran was already smashed when the german guy who secretly microcopied the findings in the yemeni mosque was asked to publish it for comparison to the Quran. And we know the minute they find anything biblical they compete to outdo each other the publishing anyway since the unauthenticity of the bible is not much of a debate. I remember how the jewish government was sued by archeologists around the world when they tried to refuse to publish or let the archeologists and theologists take a look at the DEAD SEA SCROLLS because they contained so much information that renedered TOWRAH AND THE BIBLE of today more QUESTIONABLE. If they had anything on the Quran they would have published it long ago.
In CHAPTER JONAH(YUNUS Peace upon him) from the Quran It reads:
"37. This Qurán is not such as can be produced by other than Allah. on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the Worlds.
38. Or do they say, "He forged it"? Say: "Bring then a Sürah like unto it, and call (to your aid) anyone you can besides Allah, if it be you speak the truth!"
39. Nay, they charge with falsehood that whose knowledge they cannot compass, even before the interpretation thereof has reached them: thus did those before them make charges of falsehood: but see what was the end of those who did wrong!"
Ceelgaab.
August 25th will be my fifth year in this country and I like to go back when I am done with my education inshallah(My plan is subject to Allah's will). I think our country has a bright future with the somalis understanding that bussiness and education and freedom from dictators and corrupt warlords can bring success. So much has changed in the last five years only in the country. If you see someone insulting somalia take that as hypocricy or changing of faith or acquiring a deformed character, malignant heart sickness or plain hatred for somalis. I hate whoever lies about my country and misrepresent the somalis.
By your brother.... |
| Xoogsade | Monday, August 21, 2000 - 02:07 am
Homesick:
Yes indeed the Yemeni findings is what I was reffering to and I see you have the latest developments on that. And it is does not come as a surprise that the so-called scholars have been exposed as the frauds that I suspected they were all along.
Thank you brother. |
| MAD MAC | Monday, August 21, 2000 - 03:36 am
Homesick
Let's consider my background for a minute. A professional soldier who has deployed all over the place (Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Bosnia and Haiti). Why would such a person taek an interest in Somalia? I developed a pssion for its politics and I developed many close friendships there - believe it or not not all Somalis are closed minded idiots. I liked living there. Why is that so hard to understand? Somalia is not about Islam, that's just one facet of the place. And isn't it obvious that Somalis are not very religious? Would serious Moslems tear their country apart, rape their woman and destroy their institutions? Come on. So I would postulate that one can have serious interest in Somalia without being a Moslem. |
| Waryaa | Monday, August 21, 2000 - 11:03 am
Salama...{within exception of two, NOW}
My question is still unanstered!
Mad-Cap, I am waiting from you, and your cloning ally--She, the nanoexistent lady!
Quite Peace!! |
| Ceelgaab | Monday, August 21, 2000 - 04:12 pm
Homesick:
I could not agree with you more brother about missing Somalia. 5 years is too long. I myself have not been to somalia for over 15 years (thats torture my brother). On the other hand, I feel very close to it, because I hold her high in my heart. Bro, not a day goes by for me with out running to my computer and checking about the latest peace process in "Carta" and hoping that things are going smooth still (because I know also how difficult my people can be at times).
I hope and pray for them to succeed because of the difficulties they face everday and the responsibilties they hold.
Millions depend on their actions and how well they behave or misbehave. If this is not difficult, I ask then what is?
This is perhaps the toughest period of our long and celebrated history, So all of Somalia's sons and daughters should be ready to help in whatever way they can.
I firmly and posetively believe in the future of our country because where ever we might be today(foreign countries) is only temporary.
If we don't do something, who will?
You talked about it yourself, the kind of progress our country has made in the last 5 years and the way they are doing things very well in a extremely hard conditions (that is the Somali way). So we should help them achieve the success they have started already.
Our country needs us all now, especially the young and the able, the professionals(doctors, engineers etc) and the intelectuals (like you Homesick) to rebuild and bring back the good times and the pride that we are all longing for.
God Bless Somalia
Somalia Ha Noolaato
Long Live Somalia |
| Homesick. | Monday, August 21, 2000 - 05:25 pm
Waryaa.
I apologize bro, because I wanna respond to ceelgaab about his concerns. I don't mean to change the subject but this will be last drift out of the subject.
Ceelgaab.
Aammiin Bro and don't worry because somalis have understood a lot recently. Even if Carta fails it won't be the last hope somalis have. There is always a light at the end of the tunnel. Somalis have tasted what self reliance can do for them. There are more flights into the country than has been ever in somali history. The best communication in africa and free of charge bussiness that all eastern african countries have screaming for somali control. I remember KENYA once tried to close the border to somalia And opened it with in the week because so much bussiness in kenya is dependent on somali trade. Immagine then what a government for the people can do?. We will dominate that whole part of africa if the right government is found. I don't think somalis will throw this freedom and progress into the hands of warlords and dictators who are still stuck in an ERA when they could pocket anything they want or kill anyone they want or corrupt the whole country to the end. Bussiness rules somalis now. Most people have cliche with islam and all warlords and dictators are begging for seats. Now they are getting harrassed by the masses instead of them doing the harrassment as they used to do. I am not worried anymore apart from buying a villa sooner in front of one of the beautiful beaches of somalia. |
| MAD MAC | Monday, August 21, 2000 - 10:09 pm
Waryaa
Why do you care about what my religious beliefs are? What is it to you? You asked so I will answer. I do not believe:
The punishments delineated in the Qur'an come from God.
That God delineated details of inheritance, etc.
The God writes books for our perusal. And if he did he would write more than one so that people of various linguistic backgrounds would get the benefit of his teaching. He would also do it in multiple locations at the same time which would reinforce its message and ensure that all people got the message.
I do believe that the Qur'an was divinely inspired. That is, the Prophet Mohamed reached out to God through prayer in a capacity that is beyond most of us and God answered him. Because this medium (like all mediums) is imperfect, so must the transcription be imperfect. I also believe that the Bible is divinely inspired in that many of its contributors, like Mohamed, had a connection we can not replicate. But the Bible is also a series of historical accounts which, while some of the events may be of divine origin, the writings themselves are not divinely inspired. Hence they too must be flawed. Therefore I believe that the Qur'an, the Torah, The Bible, The book of Mormon (yes, I consider Joseph Smith to be a prophet) are doubtless others I have not been exposed to are divinely inspired works but are not the actual word of God, which I do not believe you can find on this planet. Are you happy now? Having explained all of this for the upteenth time on this net, I will remind you and sweetheart and any religious fascists of the Wahibi breed that I do not wish to convert any of you to anything. Be Moslems. Adhere to Islam. That's your choice, you're happy with it, and I do not wish to influence your point of view on that point on iota. So if you want to question me on something I'll defend vigorously let's talk about Somali politics and my intent to return to Somalia to finish the game.
Ceelgab
Great write up. Coudn't have said it better myself.
Homesick
Imagine a Horn of Africa Trade Agreement? Like the NAFTA of the horn. Unrestricted trade with Djibouti, Somalia (including Somaliland), Ethiopia, Eritrea, Kenya and Yemen. Somalia of course has unrestricted trade now - except that it's major port is closed. But the others do not and therefore there are duty fees and limitations on who Somalis trade with. I've had this idea for a while. A sort of regional trade agreement. Also imagine a rail line that runs from Mogadischu to Addis, through all the major Somali towns along the way. This would greatly facillitate growth potential all along the Webi Shabelli and facillitate crop export. Coupled with oil exploitation Somali economic growth could be a boon while leaving the desert nomadic areas still relatively untouched for nomads to maintain that lifestyle should they choose to. The place is loaded with potential, from tourism (maybe up near Boosaso we could build a tourist place that caters to Muslims with seperate beaches for woman, and family beaches, and Muslim oritented entertainment and everything is halal. Then down south between Jasira and Merca or maybe around Barawe a European oriented tourist industry (albeit somewhat conservative - we don't want Somalia to become known for sex tourism, etc. - make it a family type thing). Water sports, fine dinning, sendentary night life. A place where people could really relax and enjoy Somalias natural beauty. I know I'm rambling a little but I really see potential here. I could go on and on but I'll leave it with that. |
| homesick. | Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 04:34 am
Mad.
Very interesting that you dictated what you don't think as the revelation of god. You said;
1- "The punishments delineated in the Qur'an come from God. ". What you ignore willfully is the reason Allah punishes those who transgress. Allah never punishes an innocent person because ALLAH is just. And anywhere in the Quran you read a severe punishment there is the reason being given before that particular verse or after IT but you choose to willfully ignore to scape the realities those verses explain. See for example this verse:
"3.21 As to those who deny the Signs of Allah and in defiance of right, slay the prophets, and slay those who teach just dealing with mankind, announce to them a grievous penalty."
Allah is saying that those who kill the prophets of god and messengers, and deny the sings of ALLAH(like you are MAD MAC) will be dealt accordingly. To expect that you will be treated equally to someone who believed in god and lived accordingly speaks of your unwillingness to be an obidient servent. Thus you want to have your cake and eat it lol. It doesn't work that way. That is why you circulate this arrogance to your GOD in the forumss equating your inability to comprehend the facts to Allah's wisdom and beautiful words. In short you are asked this Question;
"3.25 But how (will they fare) when We gather them together against a Day about which there is no doubt, and each soul will be paid out just what it has earned, without (favor or) injustice?". You need to answer that.
2- "That God delineated details of inheritance, etc. ".
And why not when ALLAH knows better than we know and can deliver to us a just system. A muslim has no dispute with ALLAH period. You can say otherwise because you don't believe in him in the first place. Not only Allah dictates LAWS of inheritance, But he dictates our WHOLE LIFE and that is why A MUSLIM(practicing muslim) is completely different from anybody else.
3- "The God writes books for our perusal. And if he did he would write more than one so that people of various linguistic backgrounds would get the
benefit of his teaching.".
Allah doesn't write books. He reaveled them to his messengers through GABRIEL the great angel peace be upon him. And yes Allah did reveal a lot to different nations at different times. But islam is the final message.
"6.19 Say: "What thing is most weighty in evidence?" Say: "Allah is witness between me and you; This Qurán had been revealed to me by inspiration, that I may warn you and all whom it reaches. Can you possibly bear witness that besides Allah there are other gods?" Say: "Nay! I cannot bear witness!" Say: "But in truth He is the One God, and I truly am innocent of (your blasphemy of) joining others with Him."
"17.9 Verily this Qurán does guide to that which is most right (or stable), and gives the Glad Tidings to the Believers who work deeds of righteousness, that they shall have a magnificent reward; "
Mad mac If what you say is a total misunderstanding I hope Allah will guide you to his mercy and belief so that you won't regret later when you can do nothing to change your case. Your insistence reminds me of these great verses inwhich Allah speaks of people who said the same thing you said.
Ancam:109-117.
"They forcefully swear by God that if a sign be given to them, they would believe in it. Say [to them O Prophet,]: 'Signs are in the power of God alone'. And what shall make you realize that even if a sign be given to them, they shall indeed not believe in it? And [then] We will turn their hearts and their eyes away from the Truth just as
they themselves refused to believe in it at first. And We will leave them wandering about in their transgressions blindly. Had We even sent down angels to them, and had caused the dead to speak with them, and had gathered all things [that they demand] in front of them, they would still not have believed, unless God had willed otherwise. However, most of them are ignorant [of this fact].
Thus did We make the evil among men and jinn enemies for every prophet. They inspire each other with varnished discourses to deceive [each other]. Had your Lord pleased, they would not have done so. [However, your Lord allowed it for a reason] therefore, leave them in their lies. [Your Lord allowed them to do so] so that the hearts of those who have no faith in the life to come may be inclined to what they have to say and so that they may like it and [be encouraged to] do of their evil deeds all that they can do.
[Thus, if they are not willing to believe in the truth, God has decided that no sign shall be shown to them. Therefore, say to them O Prophet:] Should I seek a judge other than God [in this matter] while it is He Who has revealed the Book for you with all the [necessary] details [for your guidance]. Those to whom We gave the Scriptures know that it is the truth revealed by your Lord. Therefore do not be among those who have any doubts [about it].
[Indeed they shall not believe as your Lord had decreed about such wrong doers.] And the word of your Lord [regarding such wrong doers] was [thus] fulfilled with absolute truth and justice. No one can alter His words. He hears [the discourses of the evil doers], knows [what their hearts conceal]. And [O prophet,] if you pay any heed to what the majority of those on this earth has to say, they would lead you away from God's path. They follow nothing but conjecture and preach nothing but falsehoods. Surely your Lord is best aware of those who stray from His path, as He best knows the guided." |
| MAD MAC | Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 05:06 am
Homesick
Now back in my write up, I am sure I said I am not trying to convince any of you to give up Islam or change your beliefs at all. You did read that part didn't you? Or did you just skip over it real quick.
You write that I willfully ignore some aspects of Islam. That is not quite correct. I willfully have decided that they are not devine. God has given me a mind, and I use it. I've read most of the Qur'an, and there's some parts that I really like. But I don't like (or think they neccessarily apply to the here and now) the parts that discuss details of daily life. I also don't think God put us here to worship him. We've been over this now a million times. Let it go already. You don't want to talk about religion with Kufaar or whatever because you think my ideas on religion are blasphemous, then don't. Remember I'm not the one who started this conversation on religion. I try to leave that to the Islam page. You guys keep bringing it up here on the General page. You believe in Islam. That's great. You're happy with it. That's fine. I have a different belief set which in the aggragate isn't that far from yours. Let's just leave it at that. You're not going to change my mind and I don't want to change yours. Why can't we just agree to disagree? You're just like my old minister who always insisted on trying to sell the trinity to me. Let it go.
Now how 'bout my practical ideas concerning Somali development. I've got some real concrete ones as well. You didn't even talk about any of those. What do you think? |
| homesick. | Wednesday, August 23, 2000 - 03:49 pm
Where do I start?.
First thing first:
1- " I am sure I said I am not trying to convince any of you to give up Islam or change your beliefs at all. You did read that part didn't you? Or did you just skip over it real quick."
No I didn't skip. Yes I know you can't convert anybody. The reality is, I am interested in your decision making proccess concerning the Quran. If you can't give a reason for what you say then I will take another avenue.
2- "I willfully have decided that they are not devine. God has given me a mind, and I use it.".
When you speak of these convictions you sound hundered percenter. This is why I am interested to know since we have the same intelligence and can reason with common sense, why not explain and give a reason for your stand?. Our understandings are different since everybody is so unique. I can't let something as important as this slip away without making some inquiry. People with little knowledge might wonder if your stand is more legible than others that is why I am concerned. So we must compare and discuss for others to see who is closer to the truth. You don't care but I do because we have different obligations and mindset.
3- " But I don't like (or think they neccessarily apply to the here and now) the parts that discuss details of daily life."
You seem to be concerned with your personal freedom and in the process became blind and confused of what really religion and Islam in general are. God has given man the faculty of reason and understanding. Man is required to utilize this faculty and try to find solutions for his everyday problem situations. The Qur’an has only dealt with those aspects of our life where, due to some reason, we are prone to making such mistakes that may have a bearing on our morality and thereby have an effect on the purification of our hearts and souls. Thus, as an example, the Qur’an does not tell us on how to make a motor cycle to get to the marketplace, but it does tell us that when in the marketplace, we should not defraud or cheat others. As is obvious, the means of transportation we use to get to the marketplace has no bearing on our morality – and thus no bearing on the purification of our heart and soul, while a slight carelessness in our dealing in the marketplace can have fatal effects on our prospects in the life hereafter. The Quran perfects the moral issues and is concerned with justice but most humans are ungrateful for what it is. Quran:
"17.89 And We have explained to man, in this Qurán, every kind of similitude: yet the greater part of men refuse (to receive it) except with ingratitude!"
You can quit if you like MAD about the subject although it is not soldierly to quit. YOU ARE NOT A QUITTER ARE YOU SERGENT?. I don't have ill feelings towards you personally but I don't agree an IOTA of what you say about religion. that Doesn't make us enemies I think. Let each of us express his thoughts. I can sit and watch what you say and post as many others do, but I have a feeling you misunderstand a lot. Now that makes me a preist like according to you. I say IT DOESN'T MATTER. May be I am more like your younger brother who wants you sincerely to understand things from his point of view with good reason.
This is how much time I have for now. I will talk to you about politics later if you don't call it quits. Don't be afraid to express your opinions anyway if I don't come back. Just show why.
sincerely... |
| Xoogsade | Wednesday, August 23, 2000 - 03:57 pm
Homesick:
Ninkan qalbigaa tolane haysku wareerin.
Arrintii Yemen iyo tuugtii Jarmalka ahayd igamaad dhergine xaggay ku danbeysay? |
| Father Michael | Wednesday, August 23, 2000 - 08:54 pm
JESUS IS COMING (look busy) |
| MAD MAC | Wednesday, August 23, 2000 - 10:02 pm
I think we have some interloper claiming to be Father Michaels just to confuse everyone and piss a few folks off.
Homesick,
You certainly know how to keep me going don't you? I guess I am predictable after all. Incidentally I'm a Major, not a Sergeant. OK, you are correct, I have given the subject some thought. I believe in God for two principal reasons:
Nothing comes from nothing. In my opinion it took some sort of devine intervention to create the Heavens and the Earth. I believe that God was the creator - although I'm not sure what the nature of God is. We tend to peronify God because we don't know how else to deal with him. The true nature of Gods kingdom is, of course, a mystery to us.
God talks to me. OK, I know this sounds nuts and if you were saying it I'd be highly suspicious. But when I pray and open up I get a response to questions I ask. It's not a dialogue as if we were speaking, but it's an exchange. It could easily be self-delusional but I don't believe it is. Everyone prays and I dont't advertise my approach, it's basically a personal thing. But it has helped convince me that there is a deity out there and it does communicate with us. there may, in fact, be multiple devine beings although I am really monotheist and tend to believe God has assistants (angels?) who also perform good works.
I believe that the God of Abraham is the same God I communicate with. I also believe that most people around the world, regardless of how they express God or imagine him (which none of us can do) are worshipping the same God we are (I lose it with the Hindus who's beliefs as they evolved into Budhism are much more sound). I believe that there is no one true belief. That each system has its flaws. THAT IS WHY I BELIEVE THE QUR'AN, lIKE OTHER WORKS, IS DIVINELY INSPIRED BUT NOT DEVINE. I am convinced that God has expressed himself in different ways to people around the planet at different times but the message gets a little garbled in translation. Humans are such dogmatic creatures that they take a simple message - as Issa relayed it - and complicate it. The Qur'ans prescription of stoning woman for adultery, for example, is barbaric and did not come from God. Hance I have drawn the conclusion that all of the religions have some truth and some falsity. Some undoubtedly more than others. Just as some witnesses in court, having witnessed the same event, will relay it slightly differently.
Muslims tend to encourage people to analyze the Qur'an line by line and look for flaws. It is doubtless a well written book. And I don't doubt Mohamed was a prophet. But I also don't doubt that Joseph Smith was a prophet. I think the Qur'ans tone and approach were a reflection of the times. Pre-Islam Arabia was a barbaric land that sorely needed social order. The Qur'an helped bring that. Maybe God decided that at that place, at that time, tht was what the people needed. Or maybe Mohamed and co. took the Bible and modified it to fit the times. Or maybe God encouraged Mohamed to do just that. Or maybe God told Mohamed what to write, word for word. I don't believe that but I'm not saying it's not true either. What I'm saying is that we do not know the truth. God has implanted in your heart the knowledge of what's right and wrong. It's called a conscience. We all have one, even if some people disregard it. I don't need a book to guide me. I know. And when you're not sure you can ask God yourself.
Now, having addressed this, I do not want you to convert to "Macism". You, like everyone, have to decide what's best for you. I'm not trying to convert anyone to anything. I don't want the responsibility for that. I have my own beliefs. I am perfectly content that you have yours. I'm not saying I have the right path. I subscribe to what Khalil Gibran, the Lebanese poet and mystic wrote when he said "Say not I have found the path, say I have found a path."
Now can we move to politics and economics. |
| Ceelgaab | Wednesday, August 23, 2000 - 10:32 pm
Father Michael:
"Jesus is coming back"?????
......
Where do you think he is now?
What is it that he is supposed to do when he comes back?
Why can't he do whatever he is supposed to do from where he is now rather than come back?
To me, it sounds like a far fetched fairy tale story ! <the tooth ferry---ring a bell?>
What bothers me the most about the west and their abroach to religion is the way they pick and choose and collect the parts that suits whatever their current life style or need is?
First they use terms like "religious, orthodox,
extremist etc" to describe those who follow their beliefs to the bones. Then they talk about how cultured and civilized they are and their "Christian values!" (specially, politicians addressing their nations). Do these kind of people have a shame whatsoever?
On the other hand, for them whoever is not white is automatically "barbaric, backward and uncivilized" especially if they are black?
I wonder, what had promt them to invade and attack at places so far away as Africa, Asia and the Americas? what would've been of Europe if those other continents resist their deciet and deception?
Now, its 300 or so years later Father Michael,
I've learned a lot since. So please, stop the garbage and find other places to decieve.
May I suggest MARS? I know your people say everyday that they suspect life there - I wonder what the real reason might be?
Homesick:
You've heard the good news and the momentum our country is having today - so, hang in there, our dream might come sooner than we've imagined?
Madmac:
Thanks for the kind comments about my last writing. I am still reading about you in this forums...You've been in far too many rooms?
SHE:
Where is SHE?
Peace to y'll |
| DICKHEADCOM | Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 03:30 am
MAD MAC
I have 3 simple questions for you
1. have you ever too it up the ass?
2. and if you have how was it?
3. did you ever took a dump and while you were at it a condom came out of your ass? |
| MAD MAC | Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 03:44 am
Dickhead
I assume that you mean have I ever taken it up the ass? The answer to that question is no, which should answer your subsequent questions. If you wish to be crude, rude and socially unacceptable on the net then you really need to improve your grammar or you leave yourself open to brutal counters concerning your intellect or lack thereof. Not from me mind you, but from some of your bretheren.
Ceelgab
I'm in a few rooms indeed. What do you think about my ideas on economic development? |
| homesick. | Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 04:07 am
--?---head.
This is not a way to defend islam. You have to learn the magic words to beat everybody and get even with them bro. You must look good to the observers if you are truly serving islam which is what you are trying to do in my opinion and be smart-headed again. Don't invite people who are as sick as your words sound bro.
Xoogsade.
Bro, dhammaadkii 98ka ama billowgii 99ka ayaan ku arkey journal monthly ah "Atlantic monthly" cinwaanka ah "what is the koran?" oo si xun oo biasnimo ku dheehantahay qoraha uga hadley Quraanka isagoo aan waxba ka aqoon sida ka muqatey . Wuxuu soo xigtey nimankan jarmalka ahaa oo xadey iyagoo moodey iney wax fiican xadeen waraaqo duq ahaa oo masjidka dhexdiisa meel kamid ah ku xareysnaa muddo aad u fog. Waxaan usbuucii lasoo dhaafey ku arkey website aqbaartii ugu dambeysey ee arrinka ahaa anigoo nasiib daro aanan bookmarking ku sameyn websitekii ama aanan xusuusan. Gabagabada dooddana waxey ku dhammaatey in nimankii aysan waxba heyn maadaama laga codasadey iney soo bandhigaan waxey hayaan illeyn originalkii waxaa haya dawladda yemene si loo wada arko madaama restoration lagu sameeyey. Jawaabtoodana waxey noqotey iney ka cudurdaartaan. Sorry. waan isku dayi doonaa inaan helo websiteka haddaan helona anaa kula soo socodsiinaayo koley xoogsadaa tahaye meeshaan lagaama weynaayo. Sorry again if I couldn't give more info than that.
Ceelgaab.
Bro, I rely on calling my parents particularly my mom for the updates and the general feelings of the people because my father is not tuned to politics(which I appreciate). I hope things will work out for all somalis. I will be among the ruled anyway so I don't bother although my support will go without question to those who do good for the people and justly work for them.
MAD.
I wanted to write something because you have expressed many points that call for a discussion. I hope you will be guided to the right path and the rest of us so that we become truly appreciative of our being who we are. I know you like somali politics and all that relate to us. Your views are not bad but require a fully recovered somalis and somalia. Step by step and onething at a time will be the call of the day. Untill then it has been nice talking to you although I like to come back one more time to hammer some of the comments you made earlier and I will when Allah wills. |
| MAD MAC | Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 05:13 am
Homesick @ Ceelgaab
Please let me know if you are interested in going back to Somalia as part of "MAX Security". Can't promise high paying, but I've got all sorts of ideas that can blossom from this - both buisiness and political. Could sure use some good minds and dedicated folks. |
| Press | Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 06:54 am
Maybe i am arrogant or over zelous in reserving my comments for myself.I feel it's a shield against emotional rendevous.A bubble of blue balloons.But,observation and comments are complete unparalel things.I have observed that most of somalinet forrums include few intelligent who ONLY comment when obsolute cause is present. That is normal.It's even expected,i dont know by who,i guess since its my amateur article,i'll say by me-as a reader of the forrum.This topic introduced by a Waryaa who is by far a very NOT busy individual who irrationally opens an entire post page to critisize yet another NOT so busy individual.Hes name is Mad Mac.Notoriously known for his contraversial contribution in the forrums in attempt to gain contempt.He inexplicably acquires recognition or attention from the forrum community. Thus,achieving his goal.I can say i mentioned that fact to him once.
Such as it may,my final thought:It is no shame sometimes to log-in the forrum, and NOT comment but just observe.Its not a shame to listen rather than talk.
by reuteur |
| hebel | Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 07:35 am
When Jesus comes he better TIP cabbie...
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And which flight is he on? |
| Ceelgaab | Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 08:40 am
@#$%&-head:
Couldn't you find any better way to comment on MAC's writings whether you agree, disagree or even if you despise the guy?
Besides, at the height of your anger, you've inadvertently ( I am assuming this part?) called yourself names - as your name explicitly states.
MAC:
Brief me about your economic ideas if you don't mind, or point me to the right posting so I can read them.
The thing about myself, you and Homesick going to Somalia as "MAX SECURITY" was extremely funny !
Are you suggesting that you would abandon THE UNITED STATES army to go make money for yourself and "political" name for an individuals like myself and Homesick?
May be I misunderstood you pal?
Homesick:
How about it Bro? me and you work for MAD in Somalia?
My innitial thought on that is, right upon landing in Balidogle airport I would fear for my new employer's life!
Peace to y'll |
| MAD MAC | Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 10:17 pm
Ceelgaab
Fear not, sahib, for MAC is with you. Sorry, I couln't resist that.
You know, I have to build a home page to lay all of this out. I've got a fairly extensive plan and it's really starting to take hold.
While security is a concern that has to be addressed, remember, in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. We'll be fine in Somalia. I use to live there and I have a good feel for what the mooryan can do and what they can't.
Somalia is the land of opportunity. It's going to take off in the next 10 years - I can feel it in my bones. And we'll want to get in on the ground floor when it does. |
| DhagaxTur | Friday, August 25, 2000 - 04:28 am
somali- yow idin harowsan ninkaan. Waa somali- gaal iska dhigaayo. Siduu u kala yaqaan somali iyo qabyaladeeda ani ma u aqaan. tan labaad- waxuu leyahay waxaan bartey somaliya mar aan ka soo dagalamey? Baran oka? ma kampa ayuu hurdey mise somali buu lashekeysanayey? waligey ma arag askari ka hadal badan!
Caqli ma gasho arimahu ka hadlo.
mad mac- BEEN HAWAS Wahid! maxaad na moodey- xoolo bardaha daaqa? |
| Ceelgaab | Friday, August 25, 2000 - 07:22 am
MAD:
Do you honestly think "we" have better ideas in solving Somalia's security problems and at the sametime profit from it?
You said and I quote:
"remember, in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king."
First, Somalia is full of intellectual people who can solve our promlems.
As of this very moment that is what they are trying to do in ARTA. There are bright men and women there who can solve that particular problem.
Also, please note that the "West" did not facilitate this conference. It is entirely African thing, specially Somali Ethnic thing!
So basically, there are no blind people here, and you will need both of your eyes and probably extra ones if you are a foreigner before you even became a servant!!!!!!!
As for Somalia being the land of opportunity, you are absolutely right. But the question remains for who? On the other hand, The USA is a land of opportunity too, so is Canada!
I also understand that Somalia will go through for a period of rebuilding since almost everything is destroyed in the civil war.
Be serious for once "sahib". |
| Waryaa | Friday, August 25, 2000 - 11:12 am
Salama...{within exception of Two, If SHE exists}
Aside from all of those babbling, prattling, my very question is, de facto, still, in the midst of the air, unanswered because you, Mad-Mac, are making yourself to excuse from my quest.
I never asked you--again never--for what you believe; what you think; what you opinionize. My question has nothing to do for what you faith. Surely, you are entitled for your opinion; however, I didn’t ask your astute beliefs.
It is not a matter of what you believe about the Holy Qur’an.
Again, allow me to reiterate:
“My core Question is, if the Noble Qur’an has any incongruities, discrepancies, inconsistencies, disagreements, deviations, flaws in terms of:
1—Scientifically
2—Historically
3—Physically
4—Geographically
5—Astrologically
6—Chemically
7—Biologically
8—Vice-Versa, any other field that the Noble Qur’an narrates.
Surely, other ‘divine-inspired’ books has errors. For instance, the Bible--The Old and New Testaments alike--has countless inaccuracies. If you doubt that, I would suggest you to read this:
{“50,0000 Errors in the Bible”}--Awake Magazine, that dates back to September 8, 1987.
Also there is something that captures my attention:
You said, Mr. Mad-Mac:
“...maybe Muhammad--s.c.w.--and Co. took the Bible and modified it to fit the time.”
Really, consider this:
The world is challenged to produce a book like the Holy Qur’an and produced nothing in the last fourteen centuries. The Arab-Christians, not to be outdone, produced the Christian gospels in Qur’anic Style. They have plagiarized the Holy Qur’an by stealing words and phrases, and even the style, not forgetting the Bismillah--In the Name of Allah...which starts every Surah, Chapter, in the Holy Qur’an, except one--every chapter of their most modern books begin with the very first verses of the Qur’anic revelation. And you are saying Muhammad--s.c.w.--has copied from the Bible, and this modern stage, Arab-Christians, by their ashamings, are re-copying the style, phrases of the Holy Qur’an into their gospels.
Amazing.
Mark your words, Sir, Mad-Mac:
“Fascists of the Wahibi bread…”
Now, you are not only offending us, but, also, revolting us.
My still Quest, not to forget, I remind you.
P.S.--I never said, though I know not if others did, that you are trying to preach, to convert our people into Christianity. Keep in mind that, six decades of European colonization, domination in Somalia, the result:
Not a single family had converted to Christianity--amazing to me. Despite the people at that time had been famished about the knowledge of Islam.
Quite Peace!! |
| Ceelgaab | Friday, August 25, 2000 - 01:19 pm
Waryaa:
Well said Brother.
I must say that you are knowledgable and deep.
First it was Father Michaels, now MAD? I thought the guy was only Kufaar multiplied by gazillion, but a PREACHER for Christianity?
Will the real MAD please stand up?
Peace to y'll |
| Father michaels | Friday, August 25, 2000 - 09:40 pm
CEELGAAB
I am not Mad Mac
WARYAA
Does the Michael Mariano Family ring a bell? Somali christian 
DHAGAXTUUR
Mad Mac is not Somali. How could a clever man like MadMac be Somali?
HEBEL
We do not know his flight No yet.
Did Mohammed use to tip the cabbies? |
| Ceelgaab | Friday, August 25, 2000 - 10:50 pm
Father Michaels:
I hope you did not misunderstand me.
I know that you are a Kufaar (you don't disguise that here) But, it was MAD-MAC that someone(I believe it was Waryaa) has hinted was into the tricks of "cleverly" spreading garbage about Christianity amongst my people here in this forums.
On the other hand, how can you expect people to take you serious when so pitifully you have to name one family that became Christians out of 7 million people nation in the last two thousand years?
I must say that you will have to bring up a better case than that, besides no one knows if all of the members of that particular family are Christians! |
| hebel | Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 08:23 am
There weren't Cabbies at that time Mike, but if they were Cabs, IM sure my Prophet Mohammed (SCW) was a very generous Man.
Now since Yar (GOD) is coming back what source of transportation will (IT) use.
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U did think U would gonna get away with this, didn’t ya Freak?
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Dhagaxtur armuuba Somali Gaal ah yahay?
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Isagiyo freak-ga kale Mad-Doc isku ninba yihiin?
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Anigu waan ogahay adiguse ma ogtahay? |
| Waryaa | Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 10:46 am
Salama...{within exception of THREE}
Daddio-Maykal:
Let's first define family, Merriam-Webster defines as this:
"Middle English familie, from Latin familia household (including servants as well as kin of the householder), from famulus servant.
Also:
1--A group of individuals living under one roof and usually under one head
2--A group of persons of common ancestry
3--A people or group of peoples regarded as deriving from a common stock
4--The basic unit in society traditionally consisting of two parents rearing their own or adopted children;
Also:
Any of various social units differing from but regarded as equivalent to the traditional family--a single-parent family--spouse and children
Those are the basic classifications of "family." It did not say that a family is a consistence of an 'individual,' rather but 'individualS, personS--or people--or groupS.'
I knew when I was posting earlier post that Maykal Maryama was a Soomaali-Christian--an early Christian, however, was his Family a Christian as well.
That is the question you should ask.
Also what motivated his conversion about Christianity was not a matter of Faith, but to seek a status quo of upcoming Independence.
Quite Peace!! |
| DAREDEVIL | Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 04:47 pm
HEBEL
RIGHT MOHAMMED WAS GeNOURS MAN, TO HIM SELF AND HIS FELLOW MUSLIM BROTHERS AS TO TAKING 4 WIVES EACH OR MORE.
RELIGIOUS QUIZ
SAY HEBEL DA YA KNOW WHAT KIND OF TRANSPORTATION DID MOHAMMED AND JESUS USE TO GET THE LIL OL MAN'S HOME PLACE OR PLANET. YA KNOW ONCE UPON A TIME MOHAMMED HAD A MEETING WITH THE OL MAN UP THERE OR WAS IT DOWN UNDER.
DID HE USE
1. FLYING HORSE
2. FLYING DISH
3. FLYING FISH
4. FLYING FROG
5. FLYING BROOMSTICK
6. FLYING CARPET
7. ELEPHANT?CAMEL? MONKEY?
8. FLYING DINOSAUR?
9. FATHER MICHEALS PAPER AIRPLAINE?
10. KITE? FLYING DUCK?
WHILE YA AT IT CAN YA FIND OUT
WHERE GOD CAME FROM?
DOES GOD HAVE MOM AND DAD?
WHAT DOES HE DO FOR LIVING?
IS HE MARRIED? DOES HE HAVE CHILDREN OF HIS OWN? WHERE THE HELL DID THE OLD DUDE CAME FROM MAN? HOW OLD COULD HE BE?
DOES JESUS HAVE A FATHER AND WHO MAY THAT BE?
WHY WOULD GOD WANT TO TAKE JESUS WITH HIM?
WHY DIDN'T GOD JUST PUNISH WHOm EVER WANTED TO KILL JESUS INSTEAD OF HIDING HIM?
WHY WOULD GOD WANT TO USE "FAKE JESUS" YA KNAW ABOUT THE DUDE THAT WAS HAMMERED TO THE CROSS?
DOES JESUS HAVE A FATHER? REALLY?
WHAT DOES BASTARD MEAN?
COULD JESUS BE CHILD BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK? |
| homesick. | Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 06:57 pm
I hope when people discuss religious matters they be polite because it is no laughing matter. |
| Khalil | Saturday, August 26, 2000 - 08:58 pm
Hold on guys!
Here i see Waryaa is under investigation. Waryaa honestly speaking i think you are working with MAD MAC. How come you don't seem to understand that MAD MAC doesn't interested in debating religion issue?. Why keep on asking same question that leads MAD MAC to attack Koran again and again?. Waryaa i doubt your motives here. If you are honest, leave MAD MAC and Islam alone because by repeating this question of yours, you are only letting MAD MAC take fresh attack and spread his idea.
The bottom line the less you ask MAD MAC's believe and what he thinks about islam, the better. After all wouldn't MAD MAC be muslim if he believes the Koran is Allah's words? Why do you expect a Kufaar to believe that Quran is valid any way?.
Khalil |
| MAD MAC | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 04:50 am
Ceelgaab
You read what I wrote through the eyes of someone whos xenophobic. Reference the land of the blind, I'm not talking about the Somali intellectuals and technicians, I realize there are plenty of creative people in Somalia. I'm talking about the Mooryan. The idiots with weapons who are hardly professional, skillful fighters. I was referencing our ability to stay alive.
As for the land of opportunity, I think it has both economic and quality of life possibilities for anyone who wants to live there. I see it as a place with endless possibilities.
As for me, I've only been MAD MAC on this net, and I will remain only MAD MAC. I am not Father Michaels nor am I trying to prostelytize. You guys keep bringing up religion not me.
Waryaa
To answer your question the answer is none that I'm aware of. I must have read too much into it initially. I would never think to analyze the Qur'an from a scientific point of view (I'm not a scientist).
As for the second part of your question referencing modifications to the Bible, you quickly went from my line "maybe" to an assertion. I did not assert that I believe that happened, I asserted it is a possibility.
As for your assetion that no Somalis were converted to Christianity, that is incorrect. There are some 5,000 (I question the figure, but it doesn't really matter if it is accurate) Somali Christians. I met one family, very much persecuted, in the Medina district of Hamer when I was there.
Now as for Whabism, those guys are nuts. Have you ever lived in Saudi Arabia? They're total assholes. The only place I've ever lived where I found the people to be impossible to get along with. And I NEVER talked about religion there. They talk about it enough for all of us.
Khalil
Mahadsannnid. I keep saying it and he keeps asking it. Waryaa, why don't you ask me something about Somali politics.
Homesick
I beg to disagree. Even religion is subject to humor. I don't believe God is humorless, God is all encompassing and all includes humor. He knows the difference between humor and sincere derision.
Now, in all seriousness folks, you guys (generic) know I'm a sometimes wise ass. So anyone who takes offense to my smart aleck comments please accept my humble apologies. |
| Xaali | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 07:01 am
To the naysayers, check out links @
http://www.harunyahya.org/Eng/homeeng.html |
| hebel | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 11:43 am
Daredevil this religion was meant to be understood by people who are intelligent enough to milk their minds.
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And since yar asking questions, a Ten years old would ask, someday you will finds the answers.
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IM sorry U cannot drag me into yar child’s play discussion of too many why, whys.
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I do choose my battles, and I will discuss things on my terms.
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Yar name (Daredevil) gave U away, since yar not the Devil, ('Cause being the devil would give me enough target to execute U before the public eyes) But just someFreak who dares recklessly for no particular reason, without gaining anything, and loosing everything gives me mixed massages; That these questions are coming from mixed up person with a messed up mind and personality, or some kid who has no father who can teach U.
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In other words; Generation X.
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So I'll leave U like U are.
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Untouched and 100% Freak.
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Lord may have mercy on yar soul.
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Allah yaa Raxma Mr/Ms Daredevil.
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naxariistii Illaah korkaaga ha ahaato. |
| Waryaa | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 11:46 am
Salama...
Qalil, Duqa, Fiiri waxaa qortey:
"...you are only letting MAD MAC take fresh attack and spread his idea."
See camal, yaqeey?
Personally speaking, I never asked what Mad-Cap-Mac 'thinks, believes' about the Noble Qur'an.
The core question is not about his opinion, but to elucidate by using those techniques, I re-paste:
1—Scientifically
2—Historically
3—Physically
4—Geographically
5—Astrologically
6—Chemically
7—Biologically
8—Vice-Versa, any other field that the Noble Qur’an narrates
The reason I am pursuing this question is that I want to know his exact beliefs toward the Holy Qur'an to be a make-clear, an unambiguous, a straightforward than a blurred, a vague.
Mad-Cap-Mad:
You are NOT a scientist, that is not ample explanation for me. You can be a layman to understand what I am talking about. It only needs to compare what science, history, geography, vice-versa, says about the Holy Qur'an. And what the Holy Qur'an says about them.
P.S.--I knew--in about 90-percent--you were a Soomaali-Christian, and I knew your own words will demonstrate that--because, now, you are contradicting, sometimes you are saying that you only went to Soomaaliya for Military Operation, HOPE, and other times you know deeply the polics, the people, culture, the religion, the regions, the districts, the constituency--and so on--of Soomaaliya much more than a fellow layman.
"I met one family ... in the Medina district of Hamer when I was there."
This sentence added my scepticism about whether you are a Soomaali-Kufaar--and I am, now, ascertain you are.
Quite Peace!! |
| DAREDEVIL | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 12:43 pm
YO, HOMESICK
WOULD YA CONSIDER THIS FUNNY?
**LITTLE LEROY'S BIRTHDAY**
Little Leroy came into the kitchen where his mother was making dinner. His birthday was coming up and he thought this was a good time to tell his mother what he wanted.
"Mom, I want a bike for my birthday." Leroy had gotten into trouble at school and at home. Leroy's mother asked him if he thought he deserved to get a bike for his birthday. Little Leroy, of course, thought he did.
Leroy's mother, being a Christian woman, wanted Leroy to reflect on his behavior over the last year. "Go to your room, Leroy, and think about how you have behaved this year.
Then write a letter to God and tell him why you deserve a bike for your birthday." Little Leroy stomped up the steps to his room and sat down to write God a letter.
Letter 1 Dear God,
I have been a very good boy this year and I would like a bike for my birthday. I want a red one. Your friend, Leroy Leroy knew that this wasn't true. He had not been a very good boy this year, so he tore up the letter and started over.
Letter 2 Dear God,
This is your friend Leroy. I have been a good boy this year and I would like a red bike for my birthday. Thank you. Your friend, Leroy Leroy knew that this wasn't true either. So he tore up the letter and started again.
Letter 3 Dear God,
I have been an "OK" boy this year. I still would really like a bike for my birthday. Leroy Leroy knew he could not send this letter to God either. So, Leroy wrote a fourth letter.
Letter 4 God,
I know I haven't been a good boy this year. I am very sorry. I will be a good boy if you just send me a bike for my birthday. PLEASE!!! Thank you, Leroy.
Leroy knew, even if it were true, this letter was not going to get him a bike.
Now, Leroy was very upset. He went downstairs and told his mom that he wanted to go to church. Leroy's mother thought her plan had worked as Leroy looked very sad. "Just be home in time for dinner," Leroy's mother told him.
Leroy walked down the street to the church on the corner. Little Leroy went into the church and up
to the alter. He looked around to see if anyone was there.
Leroy bent down and picked up a statue of the Virgin Mary. He slipped it under his shirt and ran out of the church, down the street, into the house, and up to his room. He shut the door to his room and sat down with a piece of paper and a pen. Leroy began to write his letter to God.
Letter 5 God,
I'VE GOT YOUR MAMA. IF YOU WANT TO SEE HER AGAIN, SEND THE BIKE! Signed, YOU KNOW WHO |
| Ceelgaab | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 01:42 pm
MAD-MAC:
It would be nice if you did not comment on all religious matters. especially when you know your response will offend the very same people you always say that you are so interested in.
I retract my comment about the "The land of the blind people...." since you say you meant it for the so called "Mooryaanta" gangs.
MR. MAC this brings us to another point that needs an explanation as well.
Do you believe MOORYAANTA=HABAR GEDIR ?
If yes, I want to know if:
The CRIBS, EAST-SIDE and the WEST-SIDE = BLACKS
I know that some people in this forums might say that I am defending the so called MOORYAANTA, but will like to assure them that I am merely trying to thwart others from further fueling an stereotype. |
| Sister Michelle | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 03:25 pm
California beach and was in deep prayer to the Allah. He said, "Dear God, you have promised to give me the desires of my heart. Well, I have just one wish that I want from you."
Suddenly the sky clouded up over his head and Allah in a booming voice spoke to him.
"I have searched your heart and determined it to be pure. The last time I issued a blank wish request it was to Solomon. He didn't disappoint me with his request for wisdom. Ithink I can trust that you won't disappoint me either. Because you have been faithful to me in all ways, I will grant you one wish that you ask for."
The man sat and thought about it for a while and said, "I've always wanted to go to Hawaii, but I'm deadly afraid of flying and I get very seasick on boats. Could you build a bridge to Hawaii, so I can drive over there to visit whenever I want?"
God laughed and said, "That's impossible! Think of the logistics of that! How would the supports ever reach the bottom of the Pacific? Think of how much concrete...how much steel!!! Your request is very materialistic, a little disappointing. I could do it, but it's hard for me to justify your craving for worldly things. Take a little more time and think of another wish, wish you think would honor and glorify Me as well."
The man thought about it for a long while and tried to think of a really good wish. Finally, he said, "Here's the deal, My Lord. I've been married and divorced four times. My wives always said that I don't care and that I'm insensitive. So I wish that I could understand women... I want to know how they feel inside and what they're thinking when they give me the silent treatment. I want to know why they're crying. I want to know what they really mean when they say nothing. I want to know how to make them truly happy. That's the wish that I want, Lord."
After a few minutes of silence, Allah said, "You want two lanes or four on that bridge?" |
| TheCatcher | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 09:41 pm
Sister Michelle or whoever the hell you are:
If you gonna tell a joke, tell it the way you heard it first?
FYI the Names GOD and ALLAH are interchangable and will not hinder the humour in your so called joke.
Get my point Sister?
Just because you are in a predominantly Muslim forums, you don't have to use the almighty's name in a joke!!!!!!! What is your point anyways?
WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING !!!!!!!!!!!
It is MAD-MAC that is calling himself Sister Michelle. I am 100% sure.
First, he was MAD, Then Father Michaels and now he is reincarnated as SISTER MICHELLE?
MAD: GET A LIFE and GET OUT OF THIS FORUM
Can't you find a KKK forums or something?
Peace |
| MAD MAC | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 09:54 pm
Waryaa
Don't want to disappoint you abowe, but I am, in fact a white American. I am not a Somali Kufaar. The reason I know so much about Somalia is I am a tactical, all source, intelligence officer. So studying the different factions, culture and so forth was my job when I was there. After I left it became a hobby. I've had two Somali girl friends and numerous Somali social contacts and friendships and so my knowledge of Somalia always grew from there. Hope this clarifies things for you.
Ceelgaab
As long as people don't ask me I never bring it up here. You know that. But I guarantee you other folks are going to bring it up. They can't help themselves.
As for Mooryan - no it doesn't equal Habber Geddir (misspelt to get it on the board). True enough they were my old adversaries but the grudge bearing days are over - OK I still find the Jalaf annoying sometimes but I'm working on my personal prejudices. Most of my anger died with Aideed. |
| Sister Michelle | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 08:43 am
Thecatcher
YOU ARE 100% WRONG. I AM A NUN, NOT PREIST.
IS MAD MAC YOUR SCAPEGOAT?
GOD, ALLAH, CREATOR, LORD = ALMIGHTY GOD |
| Anonymous | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 10:32 am
now we have a nun on the forrums?what next?John paul the second?outrageous! |
| TheCatcher | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 05:58 pm
Sister Michelle:
Nun or Priest = samething (no point there!)
You ask if MAD-MAC is my scapegoat?
My answer or question to that is:
SCAPEGOAT FOR WHAT?
"GOD, ALLAH, CREATOR, LORD = ALMIGHTY GOD"
Agree 100%
peace |
| MAD MAC | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 09:57 pm
If The Pope shows up you're going to have to treat him with a little respect - I mean, he's an international figure, even the Arabs were nice to him - and they don't like anybody. |
| ME | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 10:49 pm
WELL MAD COW WE'RE SOMALIS THATS THE DIFFERENCE GOT IT WE DON'T BOW DOWN TO SOME STINKING WHITE ••••. |
| homesick. | Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 03:42 am
For the nun.
The rituals include that sister nuns are slept with by the angels in a dark room. Deviously, the Altar man(the priest) is the one who sleeps with them. But since the room is dark nuns have no way of telling who got their sweet because they were told not to touch around when being cooed. Funny how they satisfy their sexual lasts. I wonder if you can shed a light on the subject. After all a somali nun is closer. |
| MAD MAC | Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 05:09 am
Me
Did I say bow down??? Myah, Myah, Myah. What I said was you have to be nice. You know, like you are to your in-laws though you secretly don't like them. Same principal here. Generally speaking, it's considered politic to be nice to major political and religious figures, even if you don't particularly agree with them. Hence we are nice to CHICOM leaders when they come to America, even though we think they're scum and they know we think they're scum. It comes down to etiquette. |
| Anonymous | Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 08:19 am
Well said Mad Mac |
| Anonymous | Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 08:46 am
WELL SAID MY BLACK ASS
ASS KISSER |
| Anonymous | Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 09:07 am
Mad mac has some somali's agree with him.?outrageous!whatt next?call him..aboow macaan?Outrageous! |
| Waryaa | Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 09:57 am
Salama..{within exception of three}
My question--I kept saying this again, again, and again--is not answered, and I no longer pursue it.
Since there is no establish evidence, not a substantial confirmation.
Thus, I, above all, conclude there is NONE.
Absolutely NONE!
I, for the Pursuer, rest.
The Prosecutor rests, Your Honourable Soomaalinet.com
Quite Peace!! |
| Anonymous | Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 10:40 am
waryaa the defence does not rest.Plea to move apeal.What is your question?ask and you have receive!outrageous! |
| MAD MAC | Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 09:42 pm
Waryaa
Abowe, I did answer your question! I told you there is no scientific basis to reject the Qur'an that I know of. Doesn't that answer your question? |
| Yasine | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 12:50 am
Mad Mac, I hate to keep praising you but you seem to have more vision and ambitions for Somalia than the average Somali person. I use to be like you and dreamt of the day when Somalia would wake up and lead the Horn of Africa in terms of economic trade but reality hit me. If you look at other African countries e.g Tanzania,Uganda, Kenya when they had the East African Community,their society allows for economic co-orporation and trust between them. Somalis , however are in the words of I.M.Lewsis EGALITARIANS i.e each Somali sees himself as a king i.e NO BOSS to account to, with this type of attitude no way can a country achieve the status of any so called civilised country. We have to change our attitude drastically if we are to become a modern state.
Especially if the West decide to extract the oil which every Western country knows we have.
We need to build up a trust amongst all of our Somali tribes and only then can we achieve the dreams of economically building Somalia. |
| MAD MAC | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 03:52 am
Yasine
Can I ask you something perhaps a little personal. Your writing is superb. I had an acquantance named Yasine Ali. He was Sa'ad. I met him in Germany. You wouldn't be the same guy. Remember you accussed me of shooting you on 3 October?????? It was at Sahras wedding. Are you the same guy?
As for vision. There's nothing wrong with an Eaglitarian approach. A central, directed economy is far less efficient than a decentralized one. Somalis are alrady exploring new buisiness options. All Somalis need to do is organize themselves with a governing body that provides a framework to allow individual initiative to thrive and has no tolerance for crime. Get rid of the insecurity and put a few limits on attempts to exploit Somalias environment and bingo, we're off to the races.
As for oil, nothing wrong with getting Western companies to exploit it so long as Somalia gets areasonable piece of the pie. A contract with a reputable company can do that. But no reputable company is going to invest the 10s or even 100s of millions of dollars while Somalia remains in anarchy. |
| sister in vain | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 05:17 am
Mad mac hahahahhahahahah..unbelievable!
Mad Mac..you know we have grown to Love-Hate-you!hahahhah!First: what is Eaglitarian?Second of all why did you use the plural term ."we're off the races"!lol.Is it self dellusioned that you are somali?And if you'll convert which ..tribe would you use?..lolol!Another thing too..that made me laugh...you emphasis to describe that yasine Ali you know,by saying he is sa'ad..hahahhahah..God the power of Qabiil..is deplorable..lol.Mad mac..we Love you!lololol |
| Laascaanoodi | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 07:11 am
let us talk about the 1991 Mogadishu's civil war
I was in Mogadishu in 1991 when the civil war broke out, I am a male from the north so let me share my northern point of view with you.
The war entered the city with such a tribelotic fervor, did not end soon as expected, but grew grimmer in its ceaseless toll. The early optimism faded deadly static trench warfare replaced sweeping battlefield maneuvers. For the Hawiyye to gain hundred yards 1000 hawiyee males lay dead. The Sad, stupid reality of the conflict, fed by the awful casualty reports, fell like a pox-ridden blanket across Mogadishu, sad story started when siaad barre fled Mogadishu and the hawiyye tribe behaved as if they have been told that they were going to heaven, and started looting killing Raping women and children including grand mamas they started molesting children and Raping darod cats and dogs some stories were told they ever screwed some 99year old man, the war touched everything. I have never seen so many majeerteen men running for their lives and leaving their women and children behind for hawiyye men to molest luckily the dhulbahante men fought to the teeth and made sure that all their women and children were out before they fled Mogadishu.
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the endless succession of memorial services in masjids. In a way, what distressed me most was the unashamed public grief of the fathers of the young men.According to the standards of our northern family circle, tears were to be shed only by children and occasionally, women perhaps might weep but grown men never. The sight of distinguished professors and famous hawiyye and darrod men whom I had been brought up to regard with awe openly crying in masjids disturbed me profoundly the palace-Mogadishu was sad and sorrowful.
Please post your experience in Xamar |
| laascaanoodi | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 07:39 am
ILA QOSLA
****************************************************************************************************I was flying from San Francisco to Los Angeles. By the time
we took off, there had been a 45-minute delay and everybody
on board was ticked.
Unexpectedly, we stopped in Sacramento on the way. The flight
attendant explained that there would be another 45-minute
delay, and if we wanted to get off the aircraft, we would
reboard in 30 minutes.
Everybody got off the plane except one gentleman who was
blind. I noticed him as I walked by and could tell he had
flown before because his Seeing Eye dog lay quietly under-
neath the seats in front of him throughout the entire
flight. I could also tell he had flown this very flight
before because the pilot approached him and, calling him by
name, said, "Keith, we're in Sacramento for almost an hour.
Would you like to get off and stretch your legs?"
Keith replied, "No thanks, but maybe my dog would like to
stretch his legs."
Picture this: All the people in the gate area came to a
completely quiet standstill when they looked up and saw the
pilot walk off the plane with the Seeing Eye dog! The pilot
was even wearing sunglasses. People scattered. They not only
tried to change planes, they also were trying to change air-
lines! |
| idil | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 08:17 am
salaam to all my muslim bros and sistas
To Father Micheals.....
can you prove to us in, any one of your many different versions of the Bible does Jesus say in it to the people that I am God, worship me? |
| kiikale | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 09:40 am
MADMACK, according to the new somali constitution, can be naturalized as a somali, all he need to do is firgure who is gonna be his tribal leader, and it seems he already made a choice as to what tribe he he wants to belong •••••••• and aidid jr. is his tribal leader. |
| hebel | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 10:53 am
Well guys, when are we going shoot the guy.
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.
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I wanna get to shooting this Mad-Man |
| Waryaa | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 11:16 am
Salama...{within exception of THREE}
Mad-Cap-mac:
"I told you there is no scientific basis to reject the Qur'an..."
That is scientifically.
One Down!
How about Historically, Mad-Cap-Mac, I see you are nodding, which means you had agreed with the Holy Qur'an.
Two Down!
Physically, Merely None:
Three Down!
Geographically, NONE:
Four Down!
Biologically, NONE:
Five Down!
Astrologically, NONE:
Six Down!
Et al, NONE:
Touch Down!
Quite Peace!! |
| Anonymous | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 11:41 am
WARYA
YOU KNOW U ARE GETTING ANNOYING REALLY!STOP ARGUENING WITH THIS MAD COW DISEASE.....AND WHATS ..WITH THAT..ENDING OF YOUR'S..."QUITE PIECE"...ALL ABOU????????????????GET A LIFE WARYAA |
| Yasine | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 12:48 pm
Mad Mac, Sorry I'm not the person you thought I was. I am a Somali living in the UK.
Sister in vain, Egalitarian means not reconising authority. |
| Yasine | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 12:50 pm
Anonymous, You are very funny. |
| ReaLdeaL | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 05:32 pm
Yasine, Egalitarian is the belief that all people are equal !!! thus promoting the ideals of equality. |
| Anonymous | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 05:39 pm
ok wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!..would da reaL Slim..Dictionary Please stand up???...what is the real meaning of Eagalitarian? |
| Monica Lewinsky | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 08:50 pm
YOW HEBEL FREAK FRIST SHOOT AND THEN THINK
NO THINKING BEFORE SHOOTING |
| MAD MAC | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 10:56 pm
Sister
When I said "off to the races" this is an idiom meaning roughly we can now get down to business. We can start getting things done quickly.
If I had to pick a Qabil, well I couldn't do that. I guess I'm somewhat partial to the Abgal because they always treated me well. I also am fond of the Majertain for the same reason. But Somalis are Somalis are Somalis. I pretty much like 'em all - except the jerks and the Mooryan. |
| Doctor | Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 12:18 am
We therefore conclude that the defendant MAD MAC is not Guilty. |
| pleasure | Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 04:44 am
salaam to all muslims
Doc where u high at the time u came to that conclusion or something?
By the way Egalitarian means upholding the equality of all people...thats the real meaning!!!!!!
so real deal is rite
So waryaa have u finaly finished since ur question has been answered??????? |
| sister in vain | Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 05:35 am
Mad mac
I did not mean the "off to the races"..part...i meant..why include.."we"...off to the races...i know the ideology or meterphorical interpretation of that phrase.I was puzzled.Which is understandable considering you arr a foreigner,a non muslin,and a white man..LOL!..that was my concern! |
| Kutubeey | Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 08:17 am
My Lord!!!!
Daymm!!!! Look At This Page......It's Too Darn Long...
This Mad Dog oops I Meant... Mad Mac Is Known For Breaking Every Speed Limit.....Look... This Page Will Never Be Infinite ... Is There Someone Who Can Erase It And Replace It Into New Page Or Topic
Question..... Anyone Here Has Ever Had Contact With MAD MAC??? Coz Someone Told That He Once Appeared On MN TV- Especially Somali Most Wanted - The Show Was Aired On Couple Of Weeks Ago
Lord Has A MERCY |
| Waryaa | Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 09:33 am
Salama...{within exception of THREE}
My question is NOT answered supposedly full.
But, I take as an answer for all of his--Mad-Cap-Mac's--nattering as an answer--not fully, though. And we convinced Mad-Cap-Mac that the Holy Qur'an is, AGAIN, unblemished:
"Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy." {the Holy Qur'an 4:82}
Quite Peace!! |
| hebel | Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 11:35 am
Monica Mrs. Lewinsky, Would ya like to have a Sigar? |
| Waryaa | Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 12:01 pm
Salama...
Hebel:
A pure brown Cuban Tobacco-turned Cigarette, I guess.
That is what she prefers most.
Quite Peace!! |
| MAD MAC | Friday, September 01, 2000 - 12:22 am
Waryaa
I haven't found much discrepency with Newtons law of gravity but that doesn't mean I think Newton got it from God.
I have my own view, you have yours. Nothing wrong with that. We agree to disagree on a point that can never be proven one way or another unless Allah himself appeared before us and arbitrated the case. We're both in the same ball park so that should be good enough - I know it is for me.
Sister-in-vain
Are you a black Somali woman, non-Christian, living in a Western country?????? Why can't the reverse live in your country? |
| ABDULLAH | Friday, September 01, 2000 - 01:31 am
ASSALAAMU ALAYKUM TO ALL MUSLIMS
PEACE AND BLESSINGS BE UPON THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE RIGHT PATH. TO ALL NON -MUSLIMS.
IT IS REALLY AWFUL AND IRRITATING TO READ SUCH NONSENSE IN DISGUST TO ALLAH'S WORD AND THE MESSENGERS.
NO DOUBT AND NEVER WILL ANY MUSLIM DOUBT THAT THE QURAN IS THE WORD OF GOD, THE INFALLIABBLE, THE MOST AUTHENTIC AND THE LAST MIRACLE REVEALED TO THE MOST NOBLE PROPHET MUHAMMAD (SAW).
PLEASE AND PLEASE ALL OF YOU, THIS IS AN OPEN LETTER AND KIND REQUEST: EITHER DISCUSS IN GOOD MANNER WITH WISDOM AND CLEAR EVIDENCE OF KNOWLEDGE, OTHERWISE STOP IT NOW.
HEREINUNDER I WILL PROVIDE THE CONDITIONS OF A DEBATE:
1- LISTEN
2-PATIENCE
3-DO NOT OFFEND THE OTHER FELLOW'S BELIEF
4-THINK
5-RESPOND WITH CLEAR PROOF
THE TRUTH IS ISLAM IT IS OBVIOUS AND CLEAR.
ISLAM IS THE RELIGION FOR ALL MANKIND SINCE ADAM TO MUHAMMAD(SAW).
THE ENEMIES OF ISLAM WILL ALWAYS BE INCURRED WITH IGNOMINY IN THEIR EFFORT TO MISLEAD MUSLIMS BECAUSE MANY ENEMIES BEFORE THEM HAVE BEEN DEFEATED.
I INTRODUCE THEM TO EMBRACE ISLAM AND THINK ABOUT SEEKING THE TRUTH, NOT ATTEMPT TO UNDERMINE IT. |
| laascaanoodi | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 07:57 am
ILA qosla
Q:What is the new O.J. web site address?
A: slash.slash.backslash.escape.con |
| Ceelgaab | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 06:42 pm
laascaanoodi:
Q: What is the new website of "somaliland"?
A: qurac.qodax.qaad.nothingelse.backwardslash.cigaal |
| laascaanoodi | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 02:15 am
ceelgaab,
since you started it
Q: what is the new website for the hawiyye clan
A:www.rape_rob_kill_molest slash children.com |
| MAD MAC | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 05:39 am
Laascanoodi
Touche!!! Ceelgaab, alas sahib I can't understand yours. My Somali sucks - unfortunately. |
| laascaanoodi | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 08:49 am
mad mac------ Bizarre Laws ------ IOWA
One-armed piano players must perform for free.
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A man with a moustache may never kiss a woman in public.
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It is a violation of the law to sell or distribute drugs
or narcotics without having first obtained the appropriate Iowa drug tax stamp.
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In Indianola, the "Ice Cream Man" and his truck are banned.
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In Fort Madison, the fire department is required to practice
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fire fighting for fifteen minutes before attending a fire.
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In Marshalltown, horses are forbidden to eat fire hydrants
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Within the city limits of Ottumwa, a man may not wink at any woman he does not know.
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***
----------------- The Ultimate Booby Prize -----------------
MAPLE RIDGE, British Columbia - Those crazy Canadians are at
it again. Tommy's Bar and Grill in the town of Maple Ridge,
British Columbia, is offering breast implants to the winner
of their contest. According to restaurant manager Melina
Vince, over three-thousand entries have been made to their
"Win Boobs" contest, where the first prize is three-grand
towards plastic surgery. Vince also said that not all the
entries have been made by women, but from guys as well. It
seems the fine print doesn't specify the type of plastic
surgery the winner will receive. |
| LAASCAANOODI | Thursday, September 07, 2000 - 03:20 am
DHULBAHANTE;
***WHAT A PIECE OF WORK IS DHULBAHANTE!
HOW NOBLE IN REASON! HOW INFINITE IN FACULTIES! IN FORM AND MOVING HOW EXPRESS AND ADMIRABLE! IN ACTION HOW LIKE AN ANGEL! IN APPREHENSION HOW LIKE A MAN! THE BEAUTY OF THE WORLD! THE PARAGON OF ALL ANIMALS!*** |
| laascaanoodi | Thursday, September 07, 2000 - 10:51 am
LAAFFFFFFFFFFFF IIIIITTTTT UUUUPPPPPPP
George W. Bush, in an airport lobby, noticed a man in a long
flowing white robe with a long white beard and flowing white
hair. The man had a staff in one hand and some stone tablets
under the other arm.
George W. approached the man and inquired,
"Aren't you Moses?"
The man ignored George W. and stared at the ceiling.
George W. positioned himself more directly in the man's view
and asked again, "Aren't you Moses?"
The man continued to peruse the ceiling.
George W. tugged at the man's sleeve and asked once again,
"Aren't you Moses?"
The man finally responded in an irritated voice,
"Yes I am."
George W. asked him why he was so uppity and the man replied,
"The last time I spoke to a Bush I had to spend forty years
in the desert." |
| MAD MAC | Thursday, September 07, 2000 - 10:24 pm
Laascanoodi
I want you to know I dated a Dulbahante woman last year. One of only two Somali women I ever dated.
That Dulbahante thing was great!!! Was that Emerson waxing so eloquently about the Dulbahante? |
| Xoogsade | Friday, September 08, 2000 - 02:14 am
ceebeey tacaal |
| laascaanoodi | Friday, September 08, 2000 - 04:49 am
lol mad mac
mad mac every body screws Somali women now a days
so its ok Emerson what a piece of work.
I like that I am glad you read between the lines.
so tell me mad mac where was it? where is she now? so I can go scavenger hunt. |
| silklover | Friday, September 08, 2000 - 05:11 am
madmac
i know you cant perform cause i spoke to her and she said she will never screw another palefaced devil she said you smell like shitt
you cant even get it up assholeeeeeeeeeeee |
| MAD MAC | Friday, September 08, 2000 - 07:23 am
Laascaanoodi
I didn't say I screwed her. I dated her. You know, we went to movies, out to dinner, that sort of thing. She was kind of a head case, the Haawiiye woman was better to be honest. And I didn't screw her either. These are Muslim women. There was some physical stuff going on, but no screwing. What's the matter with you guys? |
| Anonymous | Friday, September 08, 2000 - 07:47 am
mad mac
lets see.you took them to the movies,dinner,and an probably escorted them home.And u did not screw them?damn.Either you are gay or the girls are just know da damn game.lololol!the least i could have was ablow job! |
| laascaanoodi | Friday, September 08, 2000 - 09:36 am
yo mad mac
life is a system of half-truths and lies, opportunistic, convenient evasion. (langston hughes), Elderly Politicians read it mad mac its a great restroom book.
they say all lovers swear more performance than they are able and yet reserve an ability that they never perform, vowing more than the perfection of ten and discharging less than the tenth part of one. (SP) |
| Ceelgaab | Friday, September 08, 2000 - 02:01 pm
MAD:
Here is a rough translation for you of my prior posting. The "Somaliland Website Address".
Originally:
qurac.qodax.qaad.nothingelse.backwardslash.cigaal
In English:
Desert-Tree-full-of-thorns.Thorn.Khat.nothingelse.backward.Egal(their head Idiot)
Now, go ahead and laugh out loud !
laascaanoodi:
First, be original and do not repeat the same joke in the same exact way. Also do not make wrong assumptions. You attacked Hawiyye and you are not even sure if I am one or not! Just because I use the username "Ceelgaab" does not mean I am a member of the hawiyye clan.
I said something about a place, not about any Qabil/Tribe, because I know that laascaanood is not equal to dhulbahante. You even have hawiyye people there who talk and act like you for crying out loud.
By the way, you demonstrated to the people of this forums how shallow and short minded you are by saying that the Hawiyye people are basically rapist,killers, thiefs and child molesters.
How far can you be from the truth?
I suggest you start using only facts the next time. Using a little bit of brain and thinking will help too !
have a nice day |
| laascaanoodi | Friday, September 08, 2000 - 05:15 pm
CEELGAAB
waar iska aamusa hawiyyaa ila hadlaya maanta
ceebeey tacal, hadan 1890 dhamayn lahaa taasiba
maan ta ma taad naateen
waar xar weyne aamus oo isla yaab
hadaan hawiyye caruura was ahayn yaa ah?
hawiyye waxay sameeyeen waa la wada ogyahay
iminkana waxaa soo socda buug la yidhaahdo
***dhibaatooyinkii koonfureed*****
buugani wuxuu qorayaa sheekooyin run ah oo
laga qoray xamar
oo ay sheegayaan dakii dhibaatadu gaadhay
islaamo la kufsaday, odayo la kufsaday,caruur la kufsaday, markaa naagooti yihow reer xamar aamus |
| . | Friday, September 08, 2000 - 05:31 pm
laascaanoodi...."everyone screws somali women????" aboowe pleaz get a reality check...i mean y u gotta disrespect ur sistas like that...thats just shamefull... |
| Ceelgaab | Friday, September 08, 2000 - 07:15 pm
laascaanoodi:
Next Best Seller Book is...
***dhibaatooyinkii koonfureed*****
*** The Problems of The South*****
Oh, Let me guess who the author is......?
I do not wish to argue with someone who talks like that.
Besides, you are not in my league in terms of thoughtful and constructive discussion, so I will leave at that...
Peace to y'll |
| laascanoodi | Monday, September 11, 2000 - 03:01 am
waar iska aamusa maan taa mid ceelgaab labaxay ila hadlayaaye
waar amleeydii ii raadsha aan isdilee
tani mid la joogi karo maa aha
waa aduunya gadoon iyo amankaag. |
| Faaiza | Monday, September 11, 2000 - 04:27 am
oh meeshan ma waxa ku faanaya dugaagi dhuloos
walee qof aan idin aqoon baad u faani kartaan
yey ahaayen wixi bili_liqeystay isaakha oo naagahoodi kufsadey dagaaladi waqooyi lagu qaadey 88ki. dad ey reer abti yihiin oo hadana derisnimo ka dhexeyso waatey waxaa ku sameeyeen
dhuloos yuusan isku hadlin wax ka caawandisan ma jiro
only animals can asociate with dhuloos not humans
even thou that would become insult to the real animals
adeer siyaad baa idinka raayey intuu jago qeybinayey buu idinka jaajuusnimada idiin doortay
noolow siyaad noolow
dhuloos used to be our jaajuus and will be for ever |
| LA Girl | Monday, September 11, 2000 - 08:02 am
Faiza!
Dhuloos waadigan daba socdee maxay kugu sameeyeen bal noosheeg?
Ma nin baa ku diidey dhuloos ah?
Ma inan dhuloos ah baa nin kaa dhacdey?
Mise waad ku khadhaadhisaa dhulooska?
Aleylehe adigaa dugaag iyo doqonba ah.
edeb hadaad naga yeelan waydo walee anaa ku bari
Dhooqahay uraysaa.
Koley issaaq ma tihid wax kaleba aad ahaatide sidaad wax u qorisaan ka arkaa iyo wajigaaga nacalada saaran!
Halkaas uun soo sal waynow dac yahay daceyda lulataa! |
| BURCAAWI | Monday, September 11, 2000 - 09:23 am
FAIZA
walaal in been iyo dulmi la keeno maaha
waxa dhacay sheeg
hadii aad ii keentid ama sheegtid inan isaaqq oo dhulbahante kufsadeen lacag baan ku siinayaa
beena waas yahay dalbaha xumi
huuro orodoo soo cadayo
dhulbahantiyo isaaqq waligood bay isdili jireen taasina wax dhacay maaha
labada qolo midna waxaa aad sheegaysid kuma kaco
ee ragoodaa is dila
anigaa burco joogay
been taa weeye
ee aamus ha dulmiyin dhulbahante
dhulbahante waa nebcahay oo waxaan ahay nin habarjeclo ah laa kiin ma sameeyaan waxaan
waa laga yabaa in ay laaluush qaataan oo nalagu soo diro laakiin
waligayo hablo nagama kufsan
waa faqqash xishoota |
| LA Girl | Monday, September 11, 2000 - 01:59 pm
Burcaawi:
Inaabti,
Allah run badanidaayeey. Allow yaa kuu doorta jagada uu maanta hayo Ina cigaal.
Inaabti somali oo idil mid aan maanta ceeb laheyn miyaa jira horta?
anagu waxaad nagu sheegtey inaan laaluush qaadano, waa runtaa baruur qudhaa hora looyidhi baruurahoo dhan qudhamasa. waa nagu jireen qaar huguri qaadey. sidda idinkaba idiinku jireen kuwa hunguri qaadey oo kabaha u qaadi jiray ingriiska. bal hadaba aan iska dayno caydo oo aan qarsano inteena qudhunka ah.
Waxbana yaan la isku keen dirin. oo waa walaweyntiyoo isleh kala jabaya Somaliland.
Inaabti faqQash micnaheeda horta maad garan mise waad iska isticmaashaa horta. darrood oo idil FaqQash maaha sida ay HaaWwiye oo idileey aanu u heyn moryan.
FaqQash waxey u taagan tahey:
Faruukhdii
Askar
Qaranka
Aabe
Siyaad
Hogaminayey.
waan la soconaa inay furuukhdaasi ku jireen qolo walba qolo ka maqnaydna aaney jirin. markaad ii keento qolo aan ku jirin baan kula hadli.
Inaabti anigu askari maanan aheyn Qarana qori uma wadin markaa ma inaad igu tilmaamtaad doonisaa waxaa
Therefore, don't call me faqQash.
Nabadey inaabti.
PS: ma jiro W & Q labalaabanta marka si aan meesha ugu dhigaan u soo labalaabey |
| Xoogsade | Monday, September 11, 2000 - 03:10 pm
Laascaanoodi inaadeeroow mayla aragtay horta dunidani inay gabangaabsi tahoo duuduub ku dhowdahay marka caalle walboo dhareerku da'ayaa sidaa kuugu soo dhiirado. Nin gobaad tahoo guni rifaysaaye isaga samir.
Taasu waa taa, tu kalena waa Minneapolis anoo maalin dhoweyd taarka kula hadlaya ayaan waraystay nimankii Odaleed aad ii sheegaysay oo qaar baa magaaladaa degan oo weliba maalin dhoweyd baa walaashood Reer Carraale guursadeen.
LaGirl:
Faaisa Guda-Qudhmuunley madaxaagaan ku daayay ee wax xillaan ku soo wadey. Marse haddaad meesha adigu ku jirto ma rabin inaan dhooqada dhex galo oo baalku iga duulo. Bal markaa u sheeg qoftan inaanu "ragga diinta hoyga u noqdiyo hanadka Daarrood" nay. Oo salaadda awqaadda faral marnaba aan ka tegin, kulay qodaxina lowga naga gasho ;-) !!!!!!
Burcaawi:
Maxaa ku qaaday abti sida waad dhaami jirtaye Faqashkiyo waa maxay hadalka noocaasi.... |
| Faaiza | Monday, September 11, 2000 - 03:33 pm
To L.Aduugaagad
hush nayaa adoo kale GOBTA lama hadlee
jaahiladyaha adigoo cago booraleh baa buuhoodle iyo meel daran kaa keenay misaad maanta rabtaa inaad patrooniyadaada ku afnoqdid
ayuranti waaxid
Burcaawi ina qomunluud faqashtaad sheegeysid waa
dhulooski adinkiya naagihiina isku kiin faruureen
ee darrood afkaada huurada leh ka bixi
nacala tula caleeyk iidoor
xoogasade afxaar you are ecxample of
that filthy Beast caled dhuloos
you belong in the ZO |
| laascaanoodi | Tuesday, September 12, 2000 - 02:51 am
XOOGSADE
waar salan inaadeer waan maqlay in safiya waged ayaan dhoweyd caraale mahad heleen waar waan u soo socday inanta, sala calee ilaahaybaa qurux iyo qaayo siiyay safiya.
takalena waa dugaagan soo ordaya eed moodi inay janadii gelayaan.
waar xoogsade beladani maxay ahayd ina heshay wuxu afxumaa ma dhilaa ilaahow yaa og waa kuwa xanjada coffee table ka ku dhegsada inta la wasayo marka laga dhamaystana ka soo fuqsada oo hadana calaashada ----qabxa----faiza---ilaahow yaa eega gurigeeda meelkasta xanjaa ku dhegsan...
Burcaawi abti maxaa kugu dhacay ---fakhaq--iyo waxaad ku hadli waa maxay ma waxaad rabtaa in aan dulmadoobe kuugu imaado oon ku dhengedeeyo...
Burcaawi abti u sheeg inantan yare aan warka hayn.
naa dhulbahante iyo issaaq wax yaabo aan ka dhex dhicin baa jira sida dumarkufsashada iyo caruura waska.. waan o gahay in ay dhaqanka koon furta tahay in caruurta iyo dumarka loogu horay siiyo waxa la fara xumeeyo.... haday taasi ka dhici lahayd waqooyi quruumaa rogmi la-haa oo waa la isku dhamaan lahaa........
there are invisible, unspoken laws we don't breake.
the good neithbor looks beyond the external accidents and discerns those inner qualities that make all men human and, therefore brothers. |
| BURCAAWI | Tuesday, September 12, 2000 - 03:02 am
XOOGSADE, LA-GIRL, LAASCAANOODI
Horta abtiyaal raali ahaada
waanu ognahay hadaanu issaaq nahay in aad darrood tihiin laakiin aad dad noogu sokaysaan
anagu hadaanu issaaq nahay dhulbahante, warsangeli, ciise iyo gudabiirsay uun baanu naqaanaa hadaanu habarjeclo nahayna dhulbahante
uun baanu naqaanaa
waana ogahay in faqqash la wada ahaa
ina cigaal baaba ah faqqashtii ugu weynayd hadana
madax weynaanu ka dhiganay
faiza walal reer abtigay afka kadaa oo edeb yeelo inan soomaliyeed miyaanad ahayn?
xishood oo isla yaab mise walaweyntu xishoodka ma yaqaanaan naa raali ahaw waan ilaawey in aan dhulkiina xishoodka laga aqoon. |
| L.A.GIRL | Tuesday, September 12, 2000 - 12:39 pm
LAASCAANOODI
Inaadeer anaa waxaan soo wadaa Buug la magac baxey "Shimbirtii marka dabka qaadey"
Buugani waxuu ka sheekeynayaa siduu Issaaqu u siray Haawiyyaha ( get it Haawiyye=dalkii alaabti iyo wixii manaafac yaaley buu dibada u dhoofiyey.wuu Haawiyey lol) iyo siduu hadhow uga niyad jabay.
isaaqqu tan taala dalka fiiriyey buu yidhi alaylehe afweyn xamar buu fadhiyeey gaadhi maysida talow dugaagan aan foofsado. wuu u yimid wuxuu ku yidhi war bal kaaley waxban idin sheegi. Qaad buu ka dhargiyey, wuxuu uga sheekeyey dagaaladii uu ragii geesayada Daarrood la gali jiray. wuxuu yidhi geel baan kala dhici jiray kana sameyn jiray dumar baan kala dhici jiray.
yadha yadha yadha. hadaba adiga walaalkey ahey waxaan kubari sida wax loo dhoco. Haaweydii waxay tidhi haye.adigu yaan war kugu daline ileen waa dad waa hore daarrood madax ka qabsadee way diideen inay markii hore dagaal galaan. isaaqqii wuu baxoo wuxuu kharash galiyey Drugs muqaadaraad ka culus qaadka. wuu siiyey . markaasuu yidhi orodoo soo dhaca ragaas.
Haawaydii markey kaceen dee dagaalkii baa dhacey . dad iyo duunyaba wadankii ka kala yaacey. ileen nin drug waalayo oo qori wata waa isaga tage.
xariifkii magaaladii markuu u hadhey maxaad filasay inuu guryaha iyo wax walba ku raaxeesto. wuxuu yidhi" aray xay ka walax tahey" alaabtii oo dhan xaraash bay diba u geeyeen intii munaacaadka lahey. waxay la hadheen oo qudha caladii habruhu ka yaaceen, iyo dacaskay ku waysaysan jiree.
miyaadan arag waagaad xamar ku laabatey iyagoo magaladii cidii wada saydhinaayaan. ileen kabo qof ka wayni leyahay bay xidheene/
isaqqii baa eegey oo yidhi inacala tulaah caleyk.
waar waamaxey ragani. oo dowlad dhacbaan idhi iyo kursiye ma waxaan ku idhi dusuud iyo duruuc ururso oo waliba sidii dagaag raq arkey isku dagaala, Somaliland bay sameesteen oo iska ilaawe waxa la yidhaa dir.Hada hadaad tidha sow dir iskma tihiin waxay issaaqu ku odhan duma idin xaaqdey dheh dirkood ba dugaag ah, war isma sheegano. lol
anyway, buugu waa dheer yahey intaas hordac ha kuu noqoto anaa kuu soo diri doona insha allah.
L.A. Girl |
| L.A GIRL | Tuesday, September 12, 2000 - 12:48 pm
Xoogsade:
So that was you eh? lol
waryaahee intaad nagaha afka u dhuubtaan, baad hadhowna ku soo daadisaane. war bal eeg waxa cay nasoo gaadhisa? war naga qabso girl friend taada "Faiza". how shii waad gabtaye?lol
Okay xoogsade Odolada maxaad suuqyada ugu heysaan?
maad deysaan reer ayeydey?
Faiza:
Dumaashi suxula baruurey, waanigaa kuu soo sasabey inankayageeye bal na daa. okay hadana cararoo gabadh fiican intaad iska dhigto caruurtii cunto siiso.
bye |
