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SomaliNet Forum (Archive): General Discusions: Archive (Before Sept. 29, 2000): Somalis vs Donut shops
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GhettoGirl

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 01:40 pm
First off I would like to make one thing clear im not a feminist or a man hater. This is just my opinion and I feel that everyone has a right to state what they truly feel. As most of you may already know their is a donut shop crisis that is going on in bascially every Somali populated state or country wheter it be Toronto,Minnesota,Ohio,or San Diego. Dont get me wrong I'm not generalizing all of the men from these parts because i've seen succesful brothers that live in these cities it's just a few that are giving our communities a bad name. As you already might know Somali Men have been so sheltered from facing reality. Today, we are telling them the truth. In somali families, the situation was such that women were enslaved in order to serve men from the day they were born.
Our own mothers used to force us to carry them on our backs and change your diapers. We were obliged to cook your meals, do the laundry for men and serve men as if we were their maids. Since men have never done anything for themselves, they turn into zombies entirely depending on women. The Somali man sits on his mothers lap before directly moving to that of his wife. This does not mean that we are not interested in Somali men any more. However, since life outside Somalia is difficult, we are no longer capable of carrying them on our backs or keeping them on our laps. I would like to advise them to attend to their own needs. Some of them can't be dissuaded from spending all their time in the teashops. "Please get rid of such bad habits as drinking and other counterproductive actives and take care of yourself and if you have kids take care of them instead leaving it up to the mothers. Often People hear about single mothers and how they take welfare and go out partying and cant take care of their children. First off I would just like to say that it takes two to tango but knowing that fact people dont care to ask where the father might be they just insult the single mothers. I agree some of them are on welfare and dont work but thats the only choice they have because taking care of a child is a full time job. Some of them cant take the kid to their parents because their not accepting of this whole situation so they literally disown their daughters. Anyways I think i've covered most of what I wanted to say so take care. Take in mind next time you see a single mother walking down the street give her props inside of talking •••• because its a hard job to take care of a child especially if it doesnt have a father to claim it.

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MrCute

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 03:44 pm
You talking •••• hoe, when did you see somali men sitting back and doing nothing? ya talking out of your foot nat ur head...

just by reading your statement here i can see that you've been brain washed, i think you need to come back to culture...

am out....

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PHATRYDE

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 04:28 pm
Okay what's going on? You just completely blown off your topic!!! What the hell does this whole thing mean? Your title says Somali's VS Donut Shops (is that a metaphor)? Then you talk about how spoiled us Somali men are and that we don't take care of our selves but the women in our lives do! Worst off all you then talk about single mothers being ridiculed because they take welfare? I'm sorry but, there you just completely lost me, and just angered me! I'm going to go on my mothers lap and suck some more milk!!! Damn!

What made me want to write to something so stupid like this was because of the many good topics you had all in one! You could of made this excellent until you just added all of your frigging opinions, and stop saying we, it's only you on this post! You can't generalize for every other Somali woman out there!!!! Just be truthful and express that you don't like those characteristics of us Somali men. Just because it seems that I a Somali man was treated better doesn't mean that I am spoiled and a mama's boy! Back in Somalia your right about that there was a significant difference between the boys and girls. We got beat like hell, we worked outside of the house, we farmed under harsh conditions, and so on.

How would you know and say what a successful brother is? I'm just 15 I'm just reaching my true potential I'm not totally at its peak yet but I'm trying to be all I can be!

Okay you girls carried us, or might I say you carried me??? What when we were, or I was a baby! How the hell are you going to carry us, and I any older then that? We sat on our mamma's lap? Of course we sat on our mama's lap, didn't everybody sit on his or her mothers lap (unless she's dead or gone off) even the girls? You are truly expressing a grudge you got against Somali men, what your doing is completely wrong; I don't care if your not talking about me, its wrong!

Nonetheless when and if I do have kids, and if my wife doesn't have a job, I won't take care of the kids as much as she does but I will help! How am I going to take care of kids when I'm working a full time job for the whole family? I think the mentality that Somali women back in Somalia had was that of a share-share situation if the man worked outside of the house then the wife would do the work inside of the house (like taking care of the children)! As for the boys and girls, it's raising the son to become a worker, while teaching the daughter how to work the house. I think that this was there mentality, and it makes sense to me if you and I were still living there.

But as for here in North America, (I'm in Toronto) I think the mothers have taken what they learned in Somalia and are bringing it to Canada and America, just so they can at least bring and teach a piece of their heritage to their children (children are the future). America's a meltng pot which is and has been known of changing it's residence from another country (refugees, and immigrants) into one of them, completely ripping them away from their heritage and past. Thus making one believe that they are an American not a Somalian! <<Right here I'm going off topic a little bit but this must be stated because of your anger towards Somali men! You are only angered at this because of the American beliefs, and the American television shows! I must repeat again back then in Somalia it was normal for this type of characteristics, so just because the mothers are trying to enforce this upon you now doesn't mean that they like the boys better! It just means that they don't want you to forget who you are! You may never forget who you are, but I guarantee your kids will!

I hope you understand what I'm trying to say if not then get it through your ignorant brain and understand that the mom is trying doing her part, and the father is doing his!

It's totally different here and equal, and I'm not against it at all, I wish that I get a wife that works and me and her can share and mutual income, if not then she or I can work at home while the other is at work! Understand!

And why is said this whole thing is stupid is because off your good topics are too vast in information, and many people can give there opinions to several things that you have said! I am not going to talk about the other stuff because I already wrote too much and I know I'll just write even more which is totally useless! Next time you write something be more specific and stay at the task at hand. You don't wana take care of Somalian men or think that's necessary, cool say that. You don't like single mothers being talked behind their backs cool say that too, you damn near shouldn't like Somali men drinking and doing nothing then say that, but say that all separately!
I respect my Somali women, I respect this culture but I will never neglect the Somalian ways because I don't want to lose that, it's apart of Somalian heritage that should be kept and remembered. It's not negative unless you think that way but you gotta keep something from the past.

Oh it's my bed time right now and I think I have to get off my mothers lap, I'm done finished drinking my milk, so can you please carry me on your back to bed??? I think I wet my self too why don't you clean my diapers?

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Haleema

Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 04:36 pm
BITCH

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Amazon XX

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 05:31 am
Phatryde- and your point is....?

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Alipapa

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 06:16 am
Another just typical sexually frustrated bitch angry to the bones and carrying her anger on a whole nation's men!. hmmmmmmm amazing!

i am here just wondering when bitches like this one will realize that carrying their frustration on hardworking, family-oriented and peace-loving somali men will not solve their sexual problems--problems related their lack of skills of hunting men.

There are some bitches who think men are like rain coming from the sky or men are wild trees who grow every inch of the planet. and all they need is to wait one that falls from sky or one grows in their backyard.

Worse than that are bitches who think it is men's job to chase their tails and all they need is to wait even if when they are unattractive, have big attitude. And my best bet is this bitch is just frustrated of waiting a man from sky. And that is why she is starting all this saga to get attention. Of course she is nothing but attention whore. let her release some some pain on somali men. Maybe it does help her to cool off. Who knows.


Alipapa

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Sweetgirl

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 11:37 am
Alipapa and ghetto girl deserve each other. A feminist and a chauvanist hmmmmm interesting.

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GhettoGirl

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 05:29 pm
•••• y'all who think im sexually frasutrated and confused. I really dont give a damn what you think thats my opinion. So say whatever the hell you want because i still have a smile on my face.

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GhettoGirl

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 05:35 pm
This is for Sweetgirl first of all where do you get off calling me a feminist that statment couldnt be more far from the truth. In my message I clearly stated that it was some somali men who were like this not all. So I suggest next time you want to say something about my messages that you go learn how to read first you illierate hoe.P.S. I dont have a problem with somali men infact I love them.

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Saddam-Hussein

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 08:02 pm
To:Ghettogirl if your topic was Somalis Vs Donut Shop, focus that topic only and nothings else.

But, you gone to far against to all Somali men and that is beyond reasonable doubt. However; as you mentioned that some Somalis men are sitting in the Donut shop yes it's true. Is that a problem
or bothers you?

For those Somalis men who sits in the Donut Shops may have a lack of job experience in North America, languages, and most likely family problems and some other factors you never know.

You also talk so many irrelevant subjects towards or against Somalis men and you should only stick your topic Somalis men vs. Donut Shop.

Based on statement, you sounded feminist and hated your own people specifically Somalis men

Somalis men are among your father, brother, brother in-law,uncle, step-father and finale your grand-pa. So please don't generalize all Somali men.Till next time Miss Ghetto have a good night.

Thanks

Regards

Sadaaam-Hussein

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KHATA

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 03:39 am
GhettoGirl
I can only agree with you.Truly
What can you do they are all refusing to face the social KO's. Still hopping that things will change juste like that.
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Most of Somalinet users need a communication
course. CO's they'r alwayse drifting the subjects.
CU

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DonutshopLover

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 04:24 am
Ghetto:
I didn't read your long essay because the title is enough.

I sit donut shops a lot and no one pays for my coffee or my other bills. I have a good education, a decent job and I like to frequent where somalis meet in my spare times. is that a crime? somalis who sit donut shops have no bad habits such as drugs and alcohol, on the other hand you see very young somali ladies who use weed and sleep with many different guys. Just go to any night club in toronto and u'll be greeted by these ladies who luv to hang around with Jamaicans and white guys, and call somali guys donut sitting skinny asses.
In conclusion, the people who sit donuts in their spare times are far much better than those who spend their time fooloind around with the opposite sex (Harram). On behalf of donut shop loving peaceful somali guys, I say "u don't pay for our bills. Mind ur own business. Would Ya?

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Sad...Hussein

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 05:53 am
Hi Mr.Donutshoptover you gave Miss Ghettgirl the right answer. Hopefully, she will stop this harassment to all Somali men.

But the question is why and why few Somali women hated their fellow Somali men? Does any body have the right answer?

As you mentioned in your statement that few Somali women goes black Jamaicans or white people they will get the benefits that they are looking
specially diseases.


Thanks


Regards


Sad....Hussein

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Kutubeey

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 06:47 am
Guys First Of All, Wouldn't It Be Good If We Were Nice To Each Other And Give Some Respect To The Person Who Invited Us Into This Room?

Let's Get Straight One Thing, Ghetto -As She Stated In Her Statement - Didn't Generalize All Men. However, She Has Touched Some Facts That Lies Among Somalis Community. I Don't Get Why We, Somalis, When We Start Topics Like The One Mentioned Above All Guys Get Lack Of Courage And Spirit, And Start Denying Everything... And Worst Pretend That These Problems Never Happened Or Existed In Our Community.. We All Know That Every Race/Family Has These Kinda Problems…. Speaking Truly, I've Seen Some Somali Men And Women ( I Ain't Generalizing Them) Ruined Their Lives Drastically … (Not To Mention Their Kids If There Are Kinds)

God Knows How Tired I'm Of Hearing This(Men Did This... Women Did That... Men Are Such A Such...Wome Are Such A Such)

What I Wanted To Ask You Guys Is… When Are We Going To Stop Blaming Each Other? I Mean, We All Know What We Do, Who We Are, What We Have Done And etc…. This Is Not Like One Losing The Contest Or One Wining It Okay… Remember This…. We All Suck Individually But Together We Will Win ….. We Need To Stick Together And Have To Allege One To The Right Path If She/He Is Losing It

I Conclude My Statement That Donuts Are Business Shops Which Are Opened For All Kinda People.. And Yet, It Ain't Shame To Sit In And Dine In But Being Sitting In There 12 Hours A Day Is Very Disgraceful I mean You Could Use That Hours By Doing Some Useful Stuff….Common, You Sitting On That Tick Chair While The Only Words You Could Ask Are "Double Double" Or "Triple Triple"…

Ghetto Has Left Out To Talk Abourt Women Who Sit In Donuts...And Do What Men Do Too…

By The Way, Those Who Get Offended By This Topic Are The Ones Whom Fall Into What Ghetto Was Talking About…. And The Survey Said Those Who Love To Sit Donuts Or Like To Hang In There Always Talk About Women And Men … You Know It All…..

O ooh
I Went Too Far

Peace You All

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aw-kadleye

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 06:50 am
Leave her alone guys, I don't see any offense from miss. ghetogirl except her name. She was so objective but went little extreme. Some people cursed her and still there is smile on her face...strong.
Dear donutshoplover,nobody says anything about sitting donuts in your spare time, but the problem is when men sit for the whole day and talk about qabiil iyo qurun, that is the time that ghetogirl is right.
I know many women are bitchs and took the wrong options in life but what can we do.
I am sure u guys are rowing the boat in same way, but little understanding guys!!!!

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alipapa

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 08:06 am
i see many honest and well-intentioned folks preaching unity and all those goddamned good things. Well, May Allah reward your time but honestly you are parking a wrong tree and trying to reason to those who have no any sense of reasoning at all--the sexually frusterated bitches who are attentions whores.

If you don't know what the heck i am trying to say,( which probably the case) i urge you try to count somali-men-bashing topics. At least there are more than 10 topics who some ugly and unattractive somali bitches trying to get attention and starting provocative topics to degarade somali men.
those attention whores aren't looking for answers but attention only. And here we are falling their stupid traps. Why i say so? simple as donutlover mentioned donuts are social club to hang out with.And as he mentioned most of the men who hang out there aren't clubbers nor drinkers. Remember back home "biibito" where men play "dumnad and turub" to pass the time?. well donuts is like that. Women talk on the phones more than men sit donuts.
Kutubey asked why not take advantage of their time instead of sitting donuts?. Well, a man who has something to do doesn't sit donuts. it is only his parttime he that sits there trying to engage some hilaasi to his buddies.

The bottom line here is clear and concise: whenever we see some attention whores picking on peace-loving somali men, diss those bitches cuase they don't have any sense of reasing.
Alipapa

Aliapapa

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Anonymous

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 09:57 am
What is reasing ?

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GhettoGirl

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 11:47 am
My god how many times do I have to say this for some of you guys to understand. In my message I clearly stated that this problem only occurs with some Somali men not all ,I have seen succesfull brothas and I do love my Somali brothas. I don't mind if you guys make rude comments because thats what I call freedom of speech that gives people to view and state what they fell. And to that guy who said Somali girls go out with Jamacian guys isnt what your doing called stereotyping. Not all somali girls go out with Jamacian guys me being one of them and even if they did go out with Jamacian guys human too. This goes to Alipapa first off i'm far from unattractive infact I know im da bomb so your comment didnt offend me whatsoever because you havent seen me for yourself and if you did you would be swallowing every word you said. Alipapa isnt what your doing called stereotyping as well. I mean you definately dont know every single woman in the world to be saying that they talk on the phone for hours and hours. Let it be that as it may I personally think that talking on the phone is much better then wasting all your time at a donut shop its also disgracefull. Anyways peace and love to my somali brothers and sisters.

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hebel

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 12:03 pm
I think what we have here isn't a Sexual, Culture or Gender crises but simple and pure spelling crises.
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If we did speak Somali there wouldn't be any misunderstanding or misrepresenting the issues.
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Now let me see U pronounce that.

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Carcker

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 04:42 pm
Gooday all

I think "Ghettogrl" didn't offend no 1 as far as Iam concerned accept 1 thing and that is she called her self a "ghetto grl" while she had the apportunaties to call her self sacdiyo, hanad, xaliimo, qadra, 5karoon fanaxley, suleeqo, idiley, safiyo, and the name I adore most "CANAB" mmmm sounds find by reading it isn't it.

by the way Folks leav the sister alone she is in title to say her oponion,matter fact she made good points that I agree wth. Good on you sis pleas tell us more it.

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GhettoGirl

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 05:00 pm
Cracker thank you aboowe you seem to be the only one with some common sense. The name ghetto girl is just a nick name it doesnt in no way reflect on the way I act or the way i am.

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Sadaam Hussein

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 07:25 pm
Hi KHATA what can of communication course that Somali men needs? Networking or naag wareersan hadelkeeda............

To Miss GHETTOGIRL you talking about Somali men Vs.Donut Shop, how about couple Somali ladies who claims that they are selling CHEWING/KHAT but actually running A BAWDY HOUSE BUSINESS FREE TAX AND WEEKLY INCOME OR MY BE AN AVRAGE $1400.00 iS IT RIGHT OR WRONG AND WHAT ABOUT OUR RELIGION AND CULTURE.

And how about three single mothers (Somali ladies) who dances at the STRIP CLUB. When I saw these ladies,I'm deeply embarrassed...and truly and genuinely sorry for any harm that they may have caused to our Somali communities.

Imagine, you talking about Somali men siting at the Donut Shop but you can't see what you guys are doing in North America because of DOLLARS.

One of these ladies come well known and wealthy family in back home Somali. And why they are doing this things to our communities because of $$$ Dollars? This is an outrageous and unethical.

So don't talk about Somali men siting at the Donut Shop. I believed those Somali men who sits at the Donut Shops are much better then those Somali women who dances at the STIP CLUBS.

Thanks

By Sadaam Hussein

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bashi Mohamed

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 04:59 am
Hi everyboy

Leave the girl "Gehetto Girl" alone.
Befor you jump in to conclusion, try to analays her statmenets then comment about it. Be honest your comment and don't insult a girl who love Somali men but just want give a piece of advice. Don't just think yourself. You may be good person who spent his time logicaly.However,there are alot of men who spend 12 hours in coffe shops when their family needs lot of help.She did't say all men.It is 100% true whatever she said.We as a Somali,most us don't like to accept the truth. Let us be honest guys,take the advice the girl and give a cridit.I personaly take the advice and give the girl "Ghetto Girl" cridit.
One suggestion to "Ghetto girl" change the nickname to Somali nickname. keep the old name as title for few days to link the two names together.

thanks

by Bashi

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khata

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 05:10 am
To Sadaam Hussein
That's excatly what I was talking about
You learned to read upside down...
I said most somalinet user not somali men.
Big difference son.
CU

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Sad...Hussein

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 06:15 am
Hi Khata what exactly you talking about? I don't get you. And are you sure that I learned upside down? What a joke.If most SomaliNet users are not Somali men,who are they? By the way you don't need to defend poor lady.Hey Madam wake-up you are still sleeping would you?

I hop you will answer my questions soon...


By Sad...Hussein

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Axoow (Axoow)

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 09:55 am
Hello My Fellow somalis...

Bro/Sis I'm not engrossed the whole dialogue, coz I've been hearing this kind of dialogue for the last 15 yrs, even b4 the internet become public.

Ideed, it's facinate the way sis kutubey delivered her message without stepping any foot.

Let me come back the reason I'm here....honestly I overjoy bro Hebel statment, he said "I think what we have here, isn't a Sexual, Culture or Gender crises but simple and pure spelling crises." this statement means....waxaan isku huruufeeynaa E is b4 I...No!...NO! I is b4 E.....so simple and pure, when I is b4 E that is Women job, nobody can do it better than Women.......when E is b4 I that is Men job, nobody can do it better than Men.

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hebel

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 10:12 am
Hey Aaxoow how did the Party go?
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Couldn't make it with my broken leg and stuff.
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Thanks for manipulating my statement...
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Good job though.... Freak.

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Mariah

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 10:43 am
OOOOOh again another fact............and ofcourse their denayiers.................

Ghetogirl..........thanks for waking them up.......I support you totally............


And Kutubee.................I agree with you too......


Peace

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GhettoGirl

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 10:51 am
First of Mr. Sadaam Hussein I really didnt get the point you were trying to get across, being that as it may you completey went off topic can you please tell me what khaat and strip bars have to do with our discussion anyway? Mr.Hussein I dont know how old you are but I'm a teenager and Till this day I havent seen one teenage girl chewing khaat lol I dont know I might be wrong about that. Me personally I haven't seen such a thing. Although I've seen SOME somali girls drinking and smoking weed, but you know what they say theres always bound to be aleast one bad apple in a batch of dozens. I would like to ask you a question and would you please answer it for me. Why should it only be the mothers responsibility to care for the child I mean it takes two people to bring a child to the world and I believe that the mother and father of the child should both take full responibility and do equal chores. And another thing you were saying something about religion who are you to be talking about religion when your going to stripe bars yourself.Whether you like it or not striping is a job and in some cases its how SOME women make money so don't be player hate congradulate. It's much better then sitting at a donut shop talking •••• all day because you get paid to stripe. Sitting at donut shops the whole day just talking nonsense is not only a waste of time you dont get paid to do it.

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Saddam-Hussein

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 06:32 pm
Hi Miss GHEETOGIRL you gave me mixed answers and I liked.However; I will get back to you this long weekend if God wish.

Although I have your picture in regards of your age and your suggestion. By the way don't rush, as I said I will get back to you tomorrow or this long weekend. Have a good sleep, till next time.

Thanks

Regards

Sadaam-Husssein

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Saddam-Hussein

Saturday, September 02, 2000 - 02:02 pm
Hello Miss GheetoGirl,I am back.I read about your recent topic in regards what went wrong or link between Somali men Vs. Donut Shop and Khaat &/or dancing at the Strip Club.

First of all thanks for your overwhelming response to the above topic dated on Friday, Sept.01,2000 at 03:51 PM.

Yes you are right, I,personally haven't seen so far a teenage chewing Khaat or dancing at Strip Club. But drinking alcoholic and smoking weeds are normal in these days among teenagers.

Let me explain to you the issues, the issue is not Somali teenage period. The issues are few Somali ladies middle age who sells Khaat,running bawdy house and dancing at the Strip Clubs and that is the one you linked between Somali men Vs. Donut Shop and Somali Fathers who did not care about their children and left the whole responsibilities to their wives.

In some cases yes it's true, but not all the Somali men are same but as an individually.

But when you talk to Somali men sitting 12 hrs in the Donut shop and wasting their spare time, instead of spending their time to their families. That is myth and I don't believe it.

Yes Somali men sits Donut Shops for 2 or 3 hrs just get together and talk about politicians and other subjects. As our fellow brother ALIPAPA stated in his statement that Somali men used to sit in back home BIBITO and play DUBNAD or TURUB
I don't see anything wrong that but you linked other subjects instead.

I agree with you that Somali mothers alone have no an obligation of responsibilities to take care their children what so ever and it must be both the fathers and mothers and that is the best interest of the children.

But you can not blame only Somali fathers, and having seen that couple of Somali fathers who were given the custody of their children by Judges before Court of Law.

The reason of this custody, both Somali mothers neglected their children and become career criminals.One of them has been charged several criminals includes theft,assaults in Somali wedding and Welfare fraud in two different locations(double dip) and finale served jail time on weekends only for 90 days.

But the other one also has been convicted in criminal activities and sentenced for community work only.

Your question in regards why I went in the Strip Club/Bar. I was told by my neighbor that he saw a couple Somali ladies dancing at the Strip Club without clothes.

I couldn't believed until my neighbor and I went one night to the Strip Club and saw both Somali ladies.

Miss GHEETOGIRL, what a good name, please answer this question. Which one would you choose in morale , culture and religion purpose.

Somali men sits at the Donut shop Vs.only couple Somali ladies who dances at the Strip Club.

Read careful the above question and no need to mention that the dancers would get money but not get paid for those who sits at the Donut Shops....

I hope,I answered all your questions.
Please provide me with feedback on your on experiences in regards the above question.

Have a good night.......


Thanks


Regards

Sadaam-Hussein

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Kutubeey

Thursday, September 07, 2000 - 07:52 am
Axoow Aa Kuu Soo Digaa..... YAC.. Heestii Waaba Ii Gooysay Nooh..Igu Darbo

Iyaah ...Axoow Adi Iyo Cumar Sidii Canada Ledinka Raacdeeyey Since 1994 Ma Soo Laabaheesiin Miyaa....

Yaaqeeyow Soo Laabta ... Koo Kasta Microphone Aas Iska Qabsaa Asuu Qalaadaaa......

Soo Noqo Adoo Nabad Aha Sooo Noqo Adoo Nabad Ah

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hebel

Thursday, September 07, 2000 - 08:18 pm
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Warta suuqa

Friday, September 08, 2000 - 11:05 pm
Hebel, LOL.. Yaa wax wiidiiyay.. looool.

Waraa hal hal dhibic aa lagugu ogaa adiga ee maxaa waaye labadaan dhibic macallinka. Faalalow maa noqotay adiga..

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BASHIR

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 04:36 pm
GHETTOGIRL I THINK YOUR ONE OF THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WERE SMART ENOUGH TO WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT CONCEPT. PEACE

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ThinkingDeeper

Monday, September 11, 2000 - 06:51 am
Right on its about time someone realized that. Somali men do waste their time at donut shops. I agree with you girl do your thing and don't listen to these haters

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CRACKER

Tuesday, September 12, 2000 - 05:33 pm
Hi CRACKER AGAIN

These who have no Idea to controbute, who are clear distracters should leav the sister and others alone. These ppl know who they are no need even to mention their names. om that is that.

Miss AXOOOOW. what on earth were you talking I caught a head ache syndrome by reading your comments. what do you mean "e" before "i" Thanks you ain't my teacher coz you have alot explanations skills to do.

my dear GHETTO ok take your oponion but be carefull genaralising since alot of sisters do.

all the best.

p.s I will watching this topic with triple interest.

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hebel

Tuesday, September 12, 2000 - 06:51 pm
Aaxoow shimees aroosine Neefka?
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Ms. Aaxoow ma lay baroo?

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Yasmin

Wednesday, September 13, 2000 - 06:27 am
GhettoGirl I've got to hand it to you. You know exactly what to say to get these people pissed off. I love your topics you and a handful of people are the only ones who speak the truth about our Somali Community. N E ways take care my girl. One Love

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Rear-end

Wednesday, September 13, 2000 - 07:30 am
ghettogal , i was just wondering
why do you care about the men who sit in
coffee shops ? does it bother you?
as far as iam concerned i don't care
about any somali messing up , it is their
life , leave them alone
how one lives his or her life is their problem ,
i have seen somali gays , lesbo , drug addicts ,
khat addicts it is all choices they made ,
u live in da west honey , iam sure they taught
individualism at ur school ,as people we have no
culture n no strong theological beliefs , so u might as well join the follow
peace

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Yasmin

Wednesday, September 13, 2000 - 09:57 am
Rear-end im just wondering why your so worried about what ghettogal does? She obviously doesnt give two shits about your damn opinion like girlfriend said she still has a smile on her face

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Simba

Wednesday, September 13, 2000 - 10:21 am
PHATRYDE LOOOOOLL!

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laascaanoodi

Wednesday, September 13, 2000 - 10:30 am
+----------------- Bizarre Sexual Trivia -----------------+

According to unsubstantiated sources:

55 percent of women say they've faked an orgasm at one time
or another.

33 percent of women admit they moan in bed, 7 percent shriek
and 13 percent laugh.

The most popular sexual position is missionary, followed
by the woman on top and "doggie style."

58 percent of women cuddle after sex, but 8 percent just
"lie there silently."

Only 4 percent think bicyclists have "attractive physiques."

30 percent say swimmers have the sexiest bodies.

28 percent have the hots for gymnasts.

22 percent like volleyball players.

But only 14 percent say sprinters get their hearts racing.


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rear-end

Wednesday, September 13, 2000 - 10:51 am
Yasmin,n iam just wondering why are so worried
about me being worried wat ghettogal does?
anyway wat i trying to tell her is dat we aren't
any different from da rest of humanity ,people
messed up big time n somalis are no exception,
i just don't see da point of someone talking about somali failures if he/she wouldn't take any initaitive to do something about it.
if u are not gonna help , plz shut up,
yes we all are related but we are individuals too,
somalis forget that ,
i try to do part in helping my people
advising teenagers, guiding people
most of da time they don't listen but i keep trying,
by da way we do awful things n make ironic choices
believe me soon u will see a somali gay site and
porno site ,
by da way i know my massage kind of seem contradictary
i guess i was trying to say i respect individual
choices but at da same i try to guide mis-guided ones,n i don't talk about it i try to do something about it.
peace

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rear-end

Wednesday, September 13, 2000 - 10:54 am
laascaanodi ,have u ever tried consoling somali
women ? they could use ur help
by da way my mom is from lascaanod , nice town
i heard

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kiss

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 07:56 am
iam with you rear-end

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SomaliBoy

Friday, September 15, 2000 - 07:47 am
lol lol lol lol
lol
lol
Donut shops
Thats so true walaahi
I swear to god I see those losers every day when im going to work sitting at the donut shops

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SomaliBoy

Friday, September 15, 2000 - 09:39 am
REAR END •••• YOU BITCH
GO SUCK A DICK TRICK
AND LEAVE MY GHETTOGIRL ALONE

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PhatRyde

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 04:02 pm
LMAO Haha, Yo you people are going BUCK wild! Damn I haven't been up in here 4 awhile! Nice to see that this girl is getting what she deserves! Hey yo donutshop lover ya guy your right most of these somali bitches do love jamaicans and whites but I heard it's because they want to have some kind of hardcore sex! You know some buck wild ••••! Well I'm not happy to see that not many people read my first post, but what can I say? READ IT! lol!" Doggs you gotta understand some of the Somali men have sex with Jamaican and White girls too, not because of raw hardcore sex, because of these damn RAP VIDEOS! It just gets teenagers horny for something they can't have,but when they find out they can POW we all be jumping on some fine ass! Well thats what I do, but I feel bad sometimes, truly and most honestly I want a Somali Wife when I grow up around my 20's! Wish we can have 4 somali wifes in North America cause Somali girls are starting to dress up mighty sexy, and attractive (rap videos damn rap videos!) and there completely ignoring the Brothers who wana bang wit dem, well mainly cause we know most of their BROTHERS! LOL ••••! Nah 4 real though I wana settle down wit a nice somali lady, •••• but they all going to be ending up to become bitches in this society and we all going to be ending up to become some fucked up Somali Niggaz (Well the bad somlian guys, you know who you are! G'ed up niggaz)Somali girls are fine, dark and light but ya'll the fucking ones who are going to lose your roots when we all grow up in this fucked up SEX ORIENTATED WORLD! •••• the most important and meaningless thing in a relationship is sex! Cum licking hoes LMAO! Hey I don't know this do Somalian girls give head now? Well there going to start to any ways but I have a feeling they do! LMAO this topic has completely blown off topic but I don't give a •••• the girl is stupid for making so much points in one, I told her she was smart but I guess she didn't focus on one detail still!

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JusME

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 02:54 pm
Aight..I think y'all have deviated from the topic..what da hell do Jamaican guys have to do with Somali men and donut shops, NADA! Newayz, I have a comment to make and it does concern Somali men and their stupid ass addiction to coffee and donuts (Just out of curiousity, cant y'all get ur wives to make U a pot of coffee instead of spending half ur day there?? Just a q) The comment I was going to make was that yes, Somali men have been spoiled. Spoiled to such an extent that when they came here, they couldnt deal. And more often that not, this has led to the depression of our somali men. Yes, their neglecting their responsibilities, their kids and their wives, but they also need to deal with their problems, they are individuals too. So I do blame the men for leaving their responsibilities, of course, but I also blame the Somali culture for making them what we see today.(Im not generalising here, I know enuff good men, but this is for donut lovers only!) So grls dont hate all the brotha's at donut shops, U gotta classify them first. U have ur educated ones that do go their for conversation but have their lives in check, and well..then U have the others. Its the others that Im referring to..not all SOMALI MEN. Aight, I guess I've given y'all my two cents now Im out!

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Concerned_SomaliNet_Citizen

Friday, September 22, 2000 - 01:57 pm
Can you guys plz stop it with the Essay-type replys!!!!!!! thnx

by the way, DONT U GALS JUST HATE GOIN TO THE DONUT SHOP ACROSS DIXON???????

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No doubt

Tuesday, October 03, 2000 - 04:06 pm
Somalis win......100% single mothers....it is a sin...living the same household..n divorcing every week.

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JAMAAL2000

Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 10:34 pm
GHETTO_GIRL:
first of all u sound very intelligent,educated
girl,the way u present your point shows that.
I really admire you.
you are great sister of mine and I will take
that the rigth way.
I am a guy who is working full time,and I know
a lot of brothers are working or studying too
as u mention,and ur rigth coz u didnt generalize.
dear brothers what our sister said is fuct,dont
get her wrong just wake up and change that bad
habit its a fuct some brothers waste their time
over there and gewing QAT,please lets wake up
here we have to work hard to survive,man and woman we have to work together.
if we had some bad cultures we should change but
we should keep the good once.
its good idea to tell each other our weak points
to correct.
brothers we can tell sisters their weak points too.
take care my ppl.
GHETTOGIRL, is there anyway we can communicate,
u presented that in philosophical way,
do u study philosophy sis..lol...
I am interested in exchanging views,please
let me know how that can be possible.
I live in TORONTO.
bye sister.

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PHATRYDE

Thursday, October 05, 2000 - 06:26 pm
^^^ iS THAT brotha asking GhettoGirl out?^^ laugh my ass off lmao!

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jamaal2000

Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 01:32 am
phatryde,bro. what is wrong with that.
she is smart somalian girl.

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master

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 11:01 am
Dear sister.!!!

It very comman that somali women love to blam somali man.So why don't they work hard so they can do better job.I really feel sorry when sisters who act like westerns "wanna be wasteren!!

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T-GIRL

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 04:06 pm
No prices for guessing who's side Im on.........

U know what gets on my nerves? When I see Somali Brothers who attack the streets like they on a window shopping spree. They stand outside shops with their...Green/Red/and Orange trousers thinking they in the "ELITE" group. This however makes shopping or commuting for the ladies very difficult.....not to mention the fact that I never get a parking space.

No seriously though GHETTO GIRL was merely brushing upon the true facts that exist in our culture wherby a man is the King of the Castle and the woman is the Maid of the Manor.

Having said that I would also like to highlight the fact that our Somali men are very Intelligent/ strong willed/ cute/ determined/ hardworking and they strive to get to the top.. So I wouldn't want to generalise the MEN of my NATION as being lazy-no-hope-looser-slobs who chew grass like farm goats......

PEACE
TROUBLE
And I thought I was just gonna drop a few lines...

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GhettoGirl

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 07:51 pm
What's up people? N e ways I would like to thank y'all again for contributing to my conversation wheither it be positive or negative both are welcome. I have a question for Rear End if you say our not worried about other somalis messing up then why are you wasting your time advising people? I dont get it how does that work? I think you should advise yourself to shut the •••• up because you seem smarter that way. T-girl thanks for understanding my point and i would also like to thank jamaal. You two seem to be one of the only educated people up in here. peace and love

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Rear-end

Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 09:37 pm
Ghettogal-n i thought you were smart-well somalis that mess up doesn't particularly bother me but i do try on my part to help people in anyway i can, i just don't talk about it , i try to do something about it n that seems appropiate
we all know the da ills of our soceity ,there is no point rewriting already over-exhuasted topics-like somali men being no-brainers honey do something about it --or let me quote something you wrote,"i think you advise yourself to shut the f**ck up because you seem smarter that way"LOL
damn i miss somalinet , i have been gone too long
bye

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