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Idil

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 06:45 am
a muslim or somali????
This question applies to most of the people especially the bros who replied to the sista that posted big problem and they started dissing the black muslim american man she was dating and wanted to marry because of the fact that he was black and not somali.....so tell me people what r u first? a muslim or a somali???

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Waryaa

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 11:24 am
Salama...

Both! Both! Both!

If you are choking me to answer, fine:

Muslim--Sunni--Soomaali--Inaay Kaltuun--Jacburis--Maashidiyo--MinaShiibiyo--QaanJeerle--Guulwade--Watar-Baruuf--Kawaanle--Dhuxulle--Fuundi--Faryaamo--Baqshiish.

Makuu Abtirisadey, Inaay.

Quite Peace!!

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Sweetgirl

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 11:42 am
A muslim.

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Walaalkiin

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 12:57 pm
Nabad iyo Naxariis Ilaahay Korkiina Ha Ahaato

"Mu'miniintu waa WALAALO!"

Sidaa Ayuu Noo Sheegayaa Weynow Khaaliqii Isaga MOOYEE Uusan jirin Ilaah Kale.

Haddii Eebihii dhoobo aabaheen ka abuuray, oo hooyadeenna feerta aabaheen ka abuuray oo innagana biyo laga sariigto (yaqyaqsoodo) naga abuuray oo nafteena iyo dhimashadeena hayaa noo sheegay in "Mu'miniintu yihiin WALAALO" Idilay gacaliso maxaa Soomaali ah.

Aakhiro maalinta la joogo oo hooyo umushay dhasheeda ka cararayso oo muluqu durba cirroobay oo da'i ka muuqanayso, maalinta qofku naftiisa la ciiroo qaadi kari waayo.. yaa is doonan? Yaa kale.. WALAALO Mu'miniin ah.

Adiga, hooyo iyo aabihihii ku dhalay, wiilkaaga iyo walaal uur aad wada gasheen, ehel iyo qaraabo iyo xidid, xilo iyo xoolo midna maalintaa maciin kuuma aha haddaan Eebahay Kuu Liibaanin. Maalintaa Mu'miniin WALAALO ah ayaa lagu dhihi "NABAD KU SOO GALA" waa janadee.

Idileey gacaliso maalintaa Ilaahay Ha Noo Liibaano Isagay Naxariistiisu Gurin kolay camal aan falniyo wanaag aan gaysanay ku meel gaari mayno e.

Maxaa iiga dan ah Soomaali, waxaan ahay MISKIIN Dan yar ah, Addoon Ilaahay oo gafay oo isla quman--MUSLIM baan ahay e Eebow Magantaa Mawlow Maciinkaa.

"Mu'miniintu waa WALAALO!"

Soomaaliduna waa magac la isku garto.

Ilaahayow Noo Naxariiso

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Anonymous

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 04:16 pm
MUSLIM FIRST AND ALWAYS.

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sami

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 07:09 pm
A MUSLIM < MY FAITH first
da reason i wouldn't advise a sista to marry
an african american muslim , is coz their Islam
is corrupted with many things dat illicit in Islam,da true african american muslims are few in
number ,just to enlight u with their version of Islam, have u ever heard of Gay Muslim Association ,Do u know mohammed elihaj , the founder of da nation of Islam claimed prophethood,these are just few loopholes in their faith ,n ofcoarse u get da black culture to degrade da religion ,i have seen a man claiming sex outside marraige is not a sin,come to new york especailly new york city n jamestown, n u will see how they live,
peace
by da way i have no bias agianst black muslims ,
i only have written wat i have seen with my own
two eyes ,

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Anonymous

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 08:09 pm
muslim.

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amal

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 12:14 am
first thing first i would like to say that iam a muslim first then a somali

sami aboowe u should come to london and meet the SOMALI GAY men here, who still comes and claims that he is a muslim, who fasts and prays only during ramadan....so they r not better then the black muslim americans r they????

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Anonymous

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 02:48 am
a muslim sis

TRUE STORY
it is true in london a couple of weeks ago a somali lady killed her son because he became gay.....he moved to the house across the street from her and she invited him and his gay friend to lunch....she put poison in the food, her son was found dead but it was too late to find her as she already flew to somalia.

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habiba

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 03:12 am
alhumdulliah a muslim sis

anywayz i'd like to say something too....through no fault of my own my father is a gaal, im only half somalia but 100% muslim.....the thing is even though i was raised in somalian and muslim culture most somalian people (especially the older generation) dont seem to care to them, i still seem like a gaal.....2 years ago i fell in love with a somalian guy and which ended up with him proposing to me, of course i said yes and so we asked my mother and she also gave us her blessing.......but then when it came to him asking his mother she refused saying that her son would not marry some half breed white trash gaal and ••••, what angered me most was that he didnt even try to defend me or anything, when his mother finished saying what she had to sayhe turned around and said to me he couldnt marry me because i wasnt good enough for him.
the somali people i met wit an exception to few r the most prejudice people in the intire world i was unfortunate to met

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luckyguy

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 06:53 am
sister habiba,are u with some one right now,or single,am muslim somali brother asking no-one to marry u,except u r parents...let me know when u read this message...it's for real..sure 100%...and write me down your e-mail,so i can e-mail u.bye now

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Amazon XX

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 07:26 am
I am ME first, daughter of my father, member of my Clan.
Then I am a Somali.
Then I am a muslim.
Then I am an African.
Then I am a Human.

So I look for similarities with all other Humans, at whatever level we meet at.
Do you understand?

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Xaali

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 07:48 am
I think all of us are Somalis first, then Muslims second, otherwise how can we justify the destruction of Somalia????
Muslims practice an all encompasing religion that delineates a way of life. Does the somali nation practice such a life.....not parts of it but in its totality? If the answer is no, then we are Somalis first and Muslims second.
My 2 cents!

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idil

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 08:02 am
salaam to all my muslim bros and sista
thanx u for those that replied to my message but amazon x sista dont u know that there is no nationality in islam?
That first we r muslims then we r somalis or whatever else......sista i would really like uu to rethink ur answer because u r saying that U ARE SOMALI FIRST not a muslim so sista is ur nationality/clan more important then ur religion?????

sista habiba u r rite most somali people r predujice my own mother is like that and she neva denies it, we can not who what r parents are abaayo but only ourselves

aboowe walaakiin i agree with u 100% but some of our brothers and sistas dont seem to understand this

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Poisonous

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 08:48 am
I am myself for myself to myself and within myself.
My rights come first and all else comes last.
I do not know the art and science of COMPROMISE
My intellectualism is shaped by nepotism
My Clan leaders are the best, the rest are Warlords.
I am the only patriot. the rest are treacherous.
I am a muslim, who picks and chooses his practice.

Who am I?

Who else but a SOMALI.

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KIIKALE

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 09:23 am
IF IAM NOT LYING I WOULD SAY IAM SOMALI FIRST AND SOMALI LAST, EVERTHING ELSE IS IMPOSED ON ME BY YOU. YOU ASK ME TO CHOOSE BETWEEN BEING SOMALI AND MUSLIM, I DEFINETLY CHOSE SOMALI, I WILL SELL MY SOUL FOR SOMALIA. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BIG MOUTH IDIL.

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Waryaa

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 09:38 am
Salama...

Xabiiba {Habiiba}:

Sister, with a respect and for the love of our Faith, does your mother marry a Kafir or Kufaar supposedly?

Or it was a mere accidence that she conceieved--Yacni, a one night...?

I wonder if she was a Muslim-Soomaali and marry a non-Muslim.

Quite Peace!!

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ReaLdeaL

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 09:49 am
Xaali, that was more like one cent, lol. What do you mean by We ? First of all not all of us were involved in that destruction, Second we were all born Muslims, even the Pope was born a Muslim. Do we practice the religion as we are suppose to ??? well, thats the topic for another show >

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ReaLdeaL

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 09:54 am
KiKalle, you are a lier and a hypocrate, if you love Somalia then you should be greatful to Allah, the One who created Somalia and the Somali ppl, And also if you care about it that Much what have you done for Som lately ???????? Dont just shoot your mouth off !

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habiba

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 10:24 am
I was not concieved out of a one night stand waryaa, my father became a so-called muslim (still was a gaale ) so he could marry my mother if u must know, my mother made that mistake not i,

now also a question to the da bros that posted messages to big problem
y do most somalis look down on other non somali muslims?????????


luckyguy im sorry to say about i really didnt understand ur message

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Waryaa

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 11:25 am
Salama...

Xabiiba:

I didn't blame you for what your mother did. Let alone responsibility take its accountability.

Xaali:

Sister, I think there was a famous Xadiith that mentions upon whether be you a non-Muslim or a Muslim--you WERE Muslim. You were Muslim when you were in your mother's womb; stars are Muslims since they obey a certain Divine creteria; heaven itself is a Muslim, since it follows, submits, obeys Divine laws.

I think, this was the Xadiith:

"Abu Hurairah--R.L.C.-- reported Allah's Messenger {S.C.W.} said:

"An infant is born according to his (true) nature. It is his parents who make him a Jew, a Christian, just as a she-camel gives birth to its young ones. Do you find any deficiency in their limbs?"

Quite Peace!!

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luckyguy

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 02:14 pm
habiba, let me explain to u,I DO WANT to marry you
No matter what you are,as long as you are muslim
and Iam serious about that...if you are not playing around,am somali and muslim,and have the
Qualifications of what every somali woman dreaming
about...I live in Anhiem,CA USA....am 6".0 and 160
lbs...graduated from UCLA..,i need to know u if u r serious about that....(marriage).please drop me your e-mail,so we can talk more....

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khalil

Friday, September 01, 2000 - 03:24 pm
Xaali:
i second your idea. I mean being somali and then muslim. There are somalis who aren't muslims. and bieng muslim is a choice , too.

Xabiiba:

That is sad story. And you aren't the only one. I know another girl who went throught same experience. But if i were you i wouldn't have blamed somalis nor that guy's mom. I would have blamed the guy himslef. If he is grown up, he wouldn't depend on his mom's decision and deserted you.

Anyway being have gaal, you must be beautiful. And you bieng 100% muslim is bonus. And it is my humble opinion that you are hot comodity. for that reason forget that indecisive guy and somalis' prejudice soon you will be getting many candidates. you see there is Luckyguy proposing already?.

I advice you play your card correctly. and good luck.


Khalil

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idil

Saturday, September 02, 2000 - 12:37 am
salaam to all my muslim bros and sistas

Aboowe xaali last time i missed ur message so i didnt reply......
WE ARE ALL?????
Generalizing my friend, lil kids do not have choices but to follow their parents example......
If we were somalis first....then we wouldnt have killed each other......if we were people who srongly held our faith then somali would not have been the way it is today
but remember that on Day of Judgement what can ur beloved somalia do for u???
and as walaalkin said if u loved somalia that much be thanxful that Allah made u a muslim and a somali

kikaali aboowe u r a person who really needs help:
R u saying u put somalia b4 Allah??????
my brother say astafurulah

"It is He Who shapes you in the wombs of your mother as He wills" (verse 200: line 6)
and my brother Kaali it is Allah that makes u a somali so be thankful and praise Allah

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habiba

Saturday, September 02, 2000 - 03:38 am
aboowe im in england but it u still wanna talk then my email is there
thanx khalil i appreciate ur advice

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Edna

Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 03:05 pm
a muslim sis since our faith is the only thing that can help us in this world and in the hereafter

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MAD MAC

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 04:00 am
I'm neither a Muslim nor a Somali, although some of my Somali friends call me the white Soomal.

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me

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 06:12 am
a muslim
MAD MAC
do we care????????? If u r neither then this doesnt apply to u ...........gezzz

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Jeego

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 07:14 am
Idil
Don't beat the bush, say as its?!!
We are either Believers or non believers, that is all. I know your not interested where our affiliation lies.

Look we are not interested if your dating some kind of weird African-American or Turkey, Arab,Gaal. That is your problem? don't preach us what we are or not?
If your genuine about the so called Muslim Brothers, Don't you know in back home no one considered marriageable although they believe and act like any other Somali.

Remember charity begins at Home, Instead of Running after This so called Muslim Brothers, Go to Somalia and mary Real Jareer Muslim Somali Brother?!!

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50%

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 08:14 am
IM A FULL TIME SOMALI A PART TIME MUSLIM.

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a real brother

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 01:49 pm
jeego lol lol lol man u make me laugh......if the sista was going out with " some kind of wierd guy"?
he'd probably treat her way better then ur predijucied ass anywayz
and would u quit with the generalizing " we" the somali forums is 4 people who have anything to say
reality check aboowe/abaayo 50% and everyone else who say they r something else first SOMALIA WILL NOT DO ANYTHING FOR YOU ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT.....only ur faith and wat u have brought for urself to the hereafter.....not being somali nor somalia, gaal, arab, english etc will help any of as
only wat we take with us
so 4 those who have but something else b4 their faith......well then i pity u

Allah gave us free will.....he creat humans non other but to worship him but look at us....killing our own bros and sistas...if u were a somali or a muslim first...well u wont do that

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Anonymous

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 05:09 pm
A MUSLIM FIRST.

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Xoogsade

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 05:42 pm
If you are a Somali you are muslim, if you are not a muslim you are not Somali. Case closed.

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M&N

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 04:24 am
HABIBO.

I am surprised that the somali guy left you like that. Here in the United States we look for women like you with HUGE SEARCH LIGHT. Beleive me only the lucky finds a woman like you. How is your e-mail?. Is it flooded or not?.

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sista

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 06:25 am
a muslim

as waryaa said we r all muslim b4 we were born but humans have free will...the stars come out at nite cause Allah wills it, the sun comes out at dawn cause Allah wills it, these things do not have free will like we do for they cannot ignore Allahs will....but as humans ( most ) we do ignore Allah's will something which we will be all be punished for on the DAY OF JUGDEMENT.....well Xoogsade there r somali gaals if u must know although very rare there r
luv sista

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idil

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 10:14 am
Salaam to all my muslim bros and sistas

50% bro/sis wat can i say except that i feel sorry for u if u r a part time muslim and a full time somali.
Jeego
im sorry bro for u make assumptions too quickly...i asked a question in which i wanted to see peoples responces as real bro said the somali forums is for anybody with something to say ( well it was intended for somalis, but people like Mad Mac contribute)
charity starts at home???....well i intend to go back home one day insha-allah when i finish my degree...i can marry a white muslim, jareer muslim, pakistani or any other kind of muslim in the world u know y? cause they r muslim....

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Somali-wanna be

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 03:07 pm
Idil , u get my vote , marry who ever u wanna marry , it is ur life , i don't see wat it get to do with religion n somalis,
peace
da choice is urs,

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She

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 06:53 pm
I am Soomaali and 100% NON MUSLIM...


Waryaa,

"You were Muslim when you were in your mother's womb;" WHAT HOGWASH!!!!!!!!

Ina adeeroow gacaliye how many times do I have to tell you about Abu Hurairah???????????????

Peace

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TK.

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 07:52 pm
SHE, Tauting your disbeleive on our faces doesn't prove anything but your unhappiness with your wicked life. Waking up in the morning with the curse on your face had taken its tall I guess. Islam is not your choice obviously and I wouldn't recommend It in anyway for you even to look into it because Allah knows his servants very well. He knows the disbelieving servant from the believing one and thus everyone acts accordingly. Don't expect from me, OH sister what is wrong with you or anything close to it. I know how to treat people like you. My advice stick to your wicked life and feel jealous and envious towards muslims forever.

86. How shall Allah Guide those who reject Faith after they accepted it and bore witness that the Messenger was true and that Clear Signs had come unto them? but Allah guides not a people unjust.

87. Of such the reward is that on them (rests) the curse of Allah, of His angels, and of all mankind;-

88. In that will they dwell; nor will their punishment be lightened, nor respite be their (lot);-

89. Except for those that repent (even) after that, and make amends; for verily Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

90. But those who reject Faith after they accepted it, and then go on adding to their defiance of Faith,- never will their repentance be accepted; for they are those who have (of set purpose) gone astray.

91. As to those who reject Faith, and die rejecting,- never would be accepted from any such as much gold as the earth contains, though they should offer it for ransom. For such is (in store) a penalty grievous, and they will find no helpers.

Al-Imran.

There you have your treatment from the Quran. Deal with it.

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TK.

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 08:14 pm
SHE.

Tauting your disbeleive on our faces
doesn't prove anything but your unhappiness
with your wicked life. Waking up in
the morning with the curse on your face
had taken its tall I guess. Islam is not your choice obviously and I wouldn't recommend
It in anyway for you even to look into it
because Allah knows his servants very well.
He knows the disbelieving servant from the believing one and thus everyone acts accordingly. Don't expect from me, OH sister what is
wrong with you or anything close to it.
I know how to treat people like you.
My advice stick to your wicked life and feel jealous and envious towards muslims forever.

86. How shall Allah Guide those who reject
Faith after they accepted it and bore
witness that the Messenger was true and
that Clear Signs had come unto them?
but Allah guides not a people unjust.


87. Of such the reward is that on them
(rests) the curse of Allah, of His angels,
and of all mankind;-

88. In that will they dwell; nor will
their punishment be lightened, nor respite
be their (lot);-

89. Except for those that repent (even)
after that, and make amends; for verily
Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

90. But those who reject Faith after they
accepted it, and then go on adding to their defiance of Faith,- never will their
repentance be accepted; for they are those
who have (of set purpose) gone astray.

91. As to those who reject Faith, and
die rejecting,- never would be accepted
from any such as much gold as the earth
contains, though they should offer it
for ransom. For such is (in store) a penalty grievous, and they will find no helpers.

Al-Imran.

There you have your treatment from the Quran. Deal with it.


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SOMALIKKK

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 10:02 pm
IDIL WHY DO U ADVOCATE INTERRACIAL MARRIAGES?UR JUST ANOTHER SELL_OUT SOMALIGIRL WHO WANTS TO BE F..... BY ANY1 FROM EVERY RACE .......DONT I SAY DONT HIDE BEHIND RELIGION IF U WANNA DO IT OK ITS ALL GOOD BUT DONT USE OUR RELIGION AS AN ESCAPE GOAT........MISS SELL_OUT

SOMALI WOMEN LIKE IDIL R IN DESPARATE NEED OF FOREIGN SKILLED MEN.

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idil

Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 10:05 pm
y'all misunderstand, im not getting married, well at least not yet. This is a questioned which i asked u guys cause i wanted to see ur answers, the way u were acting when some of the sistas wanted to marry a muslim from another culture, u put her down accused the other man of not being a good muslim, i'm trying to make a point....IN ISLAM THERE IS NO NATIONALITY....but some of u act like ther is

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Amazon XX

Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 03:33 am
TK-
Is this the way to show Islam's truth?
Dear TK, we should feel sad when we read something like what She wrote. We should pray for her. Not push her away even further.

Back to the topic,
Idil, do you really want an answer? Or do you want to sell us your brand of nationalism? Sister, I am Somali first, then a muslim. That does not mean that I am any less muslim. It just means that I identify more with my Somali heritage.

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TK.

Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 04:11 am
Many people tried and even begged her
to stop being nuisance about islam. All
SHE does when you tell her something good is
go perserk. I don't really care. Because when
someone is out there to just bash islam and
muslims and SHE/HE knows what she is doing
my message is "IF you don't believe leave me alone".

SHE may rot in hell as well. I don't
really care for I had seen her being
what she is long time ago with many brothers
and sisters begging her to be just nice.
Save your love and sainthood for someone
more lenient and worthy than SHE for you
have a lot to learn and know about her.
I am not willing to see my religion being
chipped away daily by disbelievers. We all
come here to discuss not to insult people's
feelings right..? And what makes SHE and the
OTHER guy MAD always ridicule ISlam..? Can
you tell me that..?

I BELEIVE SEE-NO-EVIL HEAR-NO-EVIL and
if people are not co-eperating I don't damn
care their state of ignorance. TIT for TAT.

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TK.

Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 04:13 am
AMAZON XX(Sorry I had to repost).

Many people tried and even begged her
to stop being nuisance about islam. All
SHE does when you tell her something good is
go perserk. I don't really care. Because when
someone is out there to just bash islam and
muslims and SHE/HE knows what she is doing
my message is "IF you don't believe leave me alone".

SHE may rot in hell as well. I don't
really care for I had seen her being
what she is long time ago with many brothers
and sisters begging her to be just nice.
Save your love and sainthood for someone
more lenient and worthy than SHE for you
have a lot to learn and know about her.
I am not willing to see my religion being
chipped away daily by disbelievers. We all
come here to discuss not to insult people's
feelings right..? And what makes SHE and the
OTHER guy MAD always ridicule ISlam..? Can
you tell me that..?

I BELEIVE SEE-NO-EVIL HEAR-NO-EVIL and
if people are not co-eperating I don't damn
care their state of ignorance. TIT for TAT.

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Anonymous

Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 06:11 am
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool.......I identify more with my nationality more then my faith?????????????? damn yall r yall so uneducated in our religion that u but somalia b4 ur faith??????
Anywayz there will be a time when u shall answer to Allah

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khalil

Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 08:04 am
Tk;


For the life of me, I can't agree with you more nor could have i said better. Thanks big time. No need of begging a disbeliever whether he/she somali or other.

As you said the message is clear "if you don't believe it , leave it alone". such that simple. We live christian countries where they do something that is funny to us , yet we don't redicle them. We simply understand it is their beleif and they have every rights to do so. And we are the ones who come to them. In same story She and her Godfather, Mad MAc know that almost of all somalis are muslim. So what is the point of coming here of offending islam other than trying to offend us?. you are right you or any other person shouldn't be talking nicely to these idiot.


Amazonxx. I see many of like you who are abused when they are trying to be "nice muslims". Islam is a choice and if someone rejects it is his/her problem. And no point of time a gaal is excused to offend , harrass or abuse muslims because he is taking advantages of mercy of islam and at the sametime hurting muslims.

Please keep your opinion to yourself if you are advocating for gaal.


Khalil

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Anonymous

Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 10:19 am
salaam,
I am a muslim then a somali!.I strongly believe that no matter what your nationality it won't make a diffrence in the end. Real brother said all I wanted to say.
but we can look at this another way. I am not going to juge the strength of anyones faith nor do I want any one to juge mine, so maybe it's not just about your faith but about how close you are to your somali culture and people.
I am willing to admit that I was borne in soudi Arabia and I live in Europe. I have never been to somalia ( I hope to go to somalia one day Insha Allah) and my contact with other somali people is small...
This makes Little diffrence to what I said at the begining but I feel It is a factor in everyones answer.
Peace.

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Abaayo

Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 02:47 pm
Waryaa DAWACO ooooopps i meant SHE,u scare me woman.
What is going on girl??? i can't wait inaan somalia ku noqono,waa lagu karbaashaa waryaa or biyaha bada lagu cabsinaa.............lol


Call me jinni

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Anonymous

Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 06:55 pm
To: MAD MAC
MEN....I FEEL THE SAME WAY, IF YOU AIN'T NEITHER MUSLIM NOR SOMALI....THEN STAY THE HELL OUT OF THIS DISCUSSION. GO LOOK FOR SOMETHING THAT SUITS YOU...YOU FREAK.
SOMALI+MUSLIM business is only for us>>somali+muslim. GOT IT?????

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Genuwine_Brotha

Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 11:00 pm
Idil:
lol sis if you are really telling the truth and you are genuine about disregarding race,clan and class in your creteria for your future husband then your are a unique and precious gem among our Somali woman. Most Somali parents would regurgitate at the mere mention of their offspring having a inter-clan relationship let alone an inter-racial marriage!! Its really nice to see a opinionated and independent minded Somali woman taking the initiative and speaking her mind about traditionally taboo subject matter. However, I would like to point out the fact that Somalians are one of the most racist and prejudice people on the face of this Earth; and it will take much more then an individual effort on your behalf to change this entrenched psychie of racial superiority and arrogance but rather it will take a collective effort by all sections of our society to make a permanent transition for a more understanding and tolerant culture. It is futile to whine and cry about the present state of our mental status, instead we should be trying to make an effective difference that will be felt by all sectors of Somali society. If you were to go to Somalia today you will see many clans wich are considered Sab and are not permitted to inter-marry with the supposedly superior Somal clans and to a certain extend the clans that claim Arab decent will not inter-marry with other Somali clans. So in closing I would like to remind my sister Idil that this racial bias that troubles you so much is a natural part of our culture and unless your are willing to make an effective difference and rally for a new culture, all your pleas for an improved and tolerant Somalian society will fall on deaf ears. Please we need beautiful and educated sisters like yourself to go back to Somalia and put some poor Jareer or midgaan Somali out his misery by accepting him for marriage

Habiba:
You are quite a delicacy and like i stated above not even a beautiful, racially diverse sista could change the traditional mindset of our people. Im just delighted that the fool who could have married you decided not to. I hope I still have a chance and maybe we could hook up or something lol

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idil

Thursday, September 07, 2000 - 06:18 am
Genuwine Brotha....im not saying that I will marry a non somali muslim because i don't know yet....at the end of the day i will marry a muslim guy who truly loves me and i love him if he is somali then he his if he is a non somali then thats what he his but all i know is that i will be getting married to a muslim weather he be somali or not insha allah

Amozon X wat that means is that u r puting ur nationality before ur faith not identifying with somali betta

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American woman

Monday, September 11, 2000 - 12:55 pm
SomaliKKK,

Since you call yourself that name, see if you can join that group.. and let them remind what race do Somalis belong to.

Idil,

I'm a human being foremost and regarless of the prejudice that exists, I individually judge people by their character, not stereotypes. I wish for the best for the Somali lady who is dating her African American man.

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AmiSTadgirl

Friday, September 15, 2000 - 12:19 pm
Asalaamu Calaykum bro's & sista's in Islam.

Every baby that is Born is MUSLIM till thier parents change thier religion wether their christians, budiesm or any other religions.

EveryDay I wake up knowing I'm still alive. Thanks 2 Allah who created Everythings there is between the Heavens and the Earth and the Universal...And Will Die as MUSLIM!!!

Salaamu calaykum

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Basra

Friday, September 15, 2000 - 12:35 pm
why can't people stay with their own kind.Somali with Somali,White with white, African american with African Americans,and the world will be happy!

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AHMED

Saturday, September 16, 2000 - 12:52 am
DAMN RIGHT BASRA I ALWAYS TRY TO SPELL IT OUT FOR OTHERS BUT THEY DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND EVERY1 IS BETTER OFF WITH SOME1 FROM HIS OR HER OWN KIND SOME1 WHO UNDERSTANDS U WELL .........I WANNA FEEL NORMAL IN MY HOUSE ...GEEEE
SOMALI+SOOMALIYA=SOMALI
WHITE+WHITE=GAAL FUTO CAD
OTHER AFRICANS(BLACKS+THEIR OWN KIND=THEM

,,,,,,,,,,I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST OTHER RACES BUT IT DOESN'T WORK OUT LOOK AT AFRICAN-AMERICANS SO MANY AFRO-AMERICAN MEN MARRY WHITE WOMEN AND LEAVE THEIR SISTERS BEHIND.....WE SOMALIS BELIEVE THAT WHITE FOLKS R IN NO WAY BETTER THAN US SO WHEN U GO OUT WITH SOME1 WHO MIGHT NOT LIKE UR PEOPLE RACE OR RELIGION BUT WANTS WHAT'S IN BETWEEN UR LEGS THINK A 1000000000 TIMES BCUZ>>>>>>>ITS LIKE U SAYING LOUD-N-CLEAR MY OWN KIND IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.THER IS THIS WHITE CHICK AT MY WORK PLACE SHE ALWAYS FLIRTS WITH ME AND WANTS TO DO ME SO BAD I LATELY TOLD HER QUIET FRANKLY I DON'T DATE OUTSIDE OF MY RACE SHE WAS ASTONISHED A ND SAID:OH WE R ALL HUMAN AND LOVE IS WHAT MATTERS
THIS WAS MY RESPONSE:WE R ALL HUMANS BUT WE HAVE CULTURAL RELIGIOUS DIFFERENCES.

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real brother

Saturday, September 16, 2000 - 01:01 am
Ahmed u ignorent bro there also r white muslims too

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Ahmed Qatal

Saturday, September 16, 2000 - 01:56 pm
Greetings to all,

Idil, I think some of us misunderstood your question.

I understand it to be that you are saying, “If you could only be one, Muslim or Somali, which would you be?” or “What is more important to be Muslim or to be Somali?”

If these are the questions that you are asking, I would have to say that if I could be only one, then I would be Muslim because this is between me and my Lord, and my Lord’s pleasure is more important to me then my nationally.

If that is not what you were asking, and you were asking “What I was first” (i.e. which came before).

I would have to answer that I don't know which I was first. That is to say I don't know if God made me Somali then Muslim, or the other way around.

Salaam u alaikum

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me

Saturday, September 16, 2000 - 02:23 pm
everything is muslim but as someone already mentioned the starts r muslim bro we r muslims in our mothers wombs...but humans have free wills and they change it....

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