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     | Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 11:35 am hi people , iam somali obsessed with his somalines n i wanna create (or atleast try ) da perfect race in da horn where everything is for somalis ,by somalis,i wanna unite da five somalis in da horn n make a dominant force in africa n in da world, i wanna it to be both economically n militarly superior , see i believe in dis world , if u don't look out for ur kind , no one will , peace,
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| | Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 12:06 pm and wat u gonna do about the people who r only partly somalis????????????????????
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| | Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 01:07 pm give them a choice ,join us or fight us , nothing in between,it is ok with me as long as they commit to their somaliness, peace
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| | Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 02:19 pm Rude..awakening.......i suggest you take a hike....and take your bike with you.......dum asssz!
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| | Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 03:03 pm y fight ur bros and sistas dont u know thats how somalia got that way bro?
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| | Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 06:04 pm I LOVE BEING A SOMALI I ALSO LIKE TO HAVE SOME POWER OVER OTHER RACES .BUT THIS IS SEEMS LIKE A DREAM SPECIALLY WITH SOMALIGIRLS GOING BACK HOME WITH COLORFUL KIDS.
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| | Monday, September 04, 2000 - 12:29 am lol......bro dont 4get the men going back with white wives too....lol
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| | Monday, September 04, 2000 - 03:52 am What bunch of crap. Sounds like we have a lot of little Adolf Hitler wanna bes here. What's the matter with you guys? And you call yourselves Muslims. Geez. Incidentally dumb-ass, there are six Somali tribes (really clans, not tribes, but why quibble here). Four are Soomal and two are Saab. You could have made a weak case for four Somali tribes (the Soomal ones), the Issaaq, the •••••••, the Dirr, the Hawiiyaa (mispelled to get them on here). The there are the Digiil and the Rahaanweyne. I've read some stupid ass ideas lately, but this one takes the cake. How 'bout this great new idea, let's make America a country where it's jus the anglo race - others can join us if they want to but if they don't we'll just kill them. Haven't you guys learned anythng from history???
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| | Monday, September 04, 2000 - 06:51 am hi agian , well people , i never said i hated any body , i don't really care how they look-like n wat da color of their skin is ,my massage is for every somali (by choice or birth right), samaals(all da major clans), da minoraties including da jareers,bravians, pakistani somalis . indian somalis arabs, everyone who has connection to somalia, about sis n bros coming in da country(though i believe many won't back)with mixed kids, well it is ok with us as long as they are muslims n abide by our ideology(dat's be somali or leave), ME, i never said i will kill them ,we will give options ,a choice, it is upto them ,wat they chose n which path they wanna take, Mad Mac , wazzup soldeir boy , iam not hitler wanna be , i just wanna help my own kind, dat's all ,u asked if we people ever learned from history ,well i chose not to , n for good reasons, i will ask dis much , wat have u people learnded from history, u see humans never learn(they think do),for example , da jewish were enslaved n massacred first da phoraoh n da germans, u would think such race would advocate for peace n tolerance , but instead they opted to repeat history , only dis time around ,they are aggressors , America watches all dis from sidelines coz it is afriad it might offend da rich n powerful jewish in da states ,these things are repeated agian n agian , nothing is new ,if u read me carefully , i didn't say i want anybody's land but just my land(ogaden , modern day somalia, nfd, n djiboute)wherever they are people of somali descent, bye for now
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| | Monday, September 04, 2000 - 07:27 am Rude (BOY) The name says it all.
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| | Monday, September 04, 2000 - 08:12 am WHO INVITED JACK ASS MAD COW .......SUCH A NOSEY UNWANTED PERSON.........GET A LIFE AND HUNG AROUND WITH SICK PEOPLE LIKE U SON-OF-THE-GUN.
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| | Monday, September 04, 2000 - 09:17 am I wouldn't go so far as to say Somalis are perfect but they are pretty damn special. All we need to do is educate the few misguided brothers and sisters who don't appreciate the gift that Allah gave them. How much more lucky can you be to be born Muslim and Somali?
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| | Monday, September 04, 2000 - 09:31 am Somalikkk Who invented me? Allah of course - what a dumb-ass. That was a stupid question. Troubling how I keep bringing up things you'd rather sweep under the proverbial carpet, isn't it? What to do about those annoying little questions that don't fit into your view of the world. Xoogsade Everyone is pretty damn special. I like Somalis but that's a personal preference. Belive me, the mojority of my compatriots think I'm nuts because of my affilitation with you guys, which ain'T saying a whole lot for your "specialness." Truth be told, none of us are all that special. Rude As for learning from history, well some do and some don't. The interpretation of the Israelis as aggressors is only half truth. The Arabs Ä(with some provocation) started two out of the three wars between Israel and the Arab states. The reason they established a state and the reason they fiercely defend it is because of history. They do not intend to be victims again. As for Somalis sticking together (working together, as oppossed to blowing each others brains out), well that's a good idea. But they shouldn't be working together at someone elses expense. What about Somalis who are non-Muslims? I mean there are some - not many but some. If they're ethnic Somali and speak the language and so forth, can't they be Somali citizens? If not do they have to leave the country? How bout if I tell you you have to leave the country because you're not a Christian.
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| | Monday, September 04, 2000 - 01:05 pm Ya got to change yar attitude first and be nice.
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| | Monday, September 04, 2000 - 06:14 pm u r all little minded..so go to bed...childrent..!!! byeeee
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| | Monday, September 04, 2000 - 06:45 pm DAMN THAT WAS MY IDEA RUDE OKEY THIS IS THE PLANE GIVE ME THE BAG OF THE MILLITARY AND TAKE EVERY THING I'LL MAKE SURE EVERY THINK AS YOU LIKE
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| | Monday, September 04, 2000 - 07:41 pm hi people , it is me agian ,well Mad Mac, atleast we can agree on something , i don't want people victimised by anyone both outside n inside,n please read my lips ( or i should say between da lines), i don't care if a somali is jew ,as long as they agree with our principals n willing to give their lives for somalia ,it is ok with us, we are not gonna do dis at any body's expense , however we believe in competative economy n we will utilise our resources n use it to get wat we need ,we will cliam wat's ours , namely our occupied lands in ethopia n kenya ,i believe in dioluge ,but if dat won't work , anything possible to ensure victory without much casualty on our part,i don't believe in da word elimination,i don't preach evil,all i need is wat's rightfully mine n good place for my people, we welcome all somalis , muslims n non-muslims, mixed , i don't care Xoogsade i didn't say we are perfect ,i say let's to create one, u are rite we are specail n i believe every human is special too , hebel,tell me how should i approach da matter? mr wiseguy, Kharbaan i need men n women who disagree with me when iam wrong , i don't need yes-man n woman, mr playa-pres, u call us little minded or i should say narrowed-minded , i guess u are one urself , how could call us one without trying to understand where are coming from, Anon, my name bears no sigficance ,say something good or bad or shut up somalilikk, u are nice, but don't hate others
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| | Monday, September 04, 2000 - 07:52 pm Here i disagree with you we will not accept any unmuslim person as a citizen and to be somali is to be muslim,jews have not athourity to come to our lovely country after what they've done to filistiin and jeruslem (al-aqsaa) By the way you have not athourity to rule low rules and rude and i comes under the low.
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| | Monday, September 04, 2000 - 08:49 pm QUESTION: Is it possible that somalis,feel inferior...suddenly when they came to western world?They lifetime..perception shattered beyond repair?And the constant reminder of ...thinking that somali..is a special..race?I agree to be a Muslim is special.But ..a somali...not special but just another..tribe..or part of african continent!I can settle with the arguement that,one claims somali as the special,just to make them sane and healthy from the harsh..reality that they are consired black as any..other citizens of the western world?
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| | Monday, September 04, 2000 - 10:18 pm Kharbaan , iam glad u disagreed , i hand it to you though, i don't so much care about people's religion, Islam dictates religious tolerance n iam abide by dat, As for Mr reality ,i don't suffer inferiority complexety,iam as black as i can be n iam proud of dat ,as for my race ,it is special to me coz i was born into it ,n true somalis are unique, but not any different from da rest of humanity, iam still a human , a muslim n a somali,n all are specail,i have lived in both da east n da west , n i have never felt bad about anything dat defines my image or my heritage , if u did suffer my friend, i think u are da one who needs therapy(making u believe in ur self),all i said in my massage was dat i wanna make my little corner of da world a special place for my people,i hope u dig dat? bye for now p.s why da germans suffering inferiority complexety when they invaded da rest of uerope n massacred da jewish? something must have drove to those extreme measures,
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| | Monday, September 04, 2000 - 10:58 pm Rude I'm now a convert. You sound better and better. But beware, since I like your ideas everyone here will now hate you. As for the Germans, they suffer and inferiority complex not only becasue they invaded almost all of Europe but they behaved like animals during their occupation. 50 million people dies during that war and most of them were civilians killed by Einsatzgruppen - people rounded up and killed because they wre Slavs, Gypsies, Jews, whatever. The Germans are ashamed of this and should be.
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| | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 04:03 am It surprises me how MAD COW is quick to sell the JEWISH PROPAGANDA all the time in the forumss. Now he is telling us germans had inferiority complex. And when did people with inferiority complexion were able to form and organize the most powerful and high tech machinery to subjugate others?. It is the opposite. And historically, Hitler together with his defence minister belonged to a christian cult that beleived in servicing god by wiping out nonwhites. (It is IRONIC that jesus was A JEW man but is given a BLOND WIG to bring him closer in looks to the white race(Very funny). That is more like it. Germans are proud people downright racists who don't like anybody simple as that. Given the chance they would burn your Irish Ass to no recongition.
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| | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 04:23 am Unimpressed Hey dumb-ass, reread the post. What I said was that Germans have an inferioty complex NOW because of what they did then. During the war the Germans were virulently racists. Hitler was not a member of any cult except the "Worship Adolf Hitler" cult. He fully intended to turn his wrath on the Christian church when he was done dealing with those pesky Bolsheviks, democrats, Jews, Gypsies, etc. And when he finished getting rid of Christianity in Europe you guys would have been next on the chopping block. Quickly rounded up and shot. There is an element of racism and xenophobia remnant in German sociaety (Ive lived here over 10 years so I think I'm qualified to comment) but not all Germans are racist - the Somalis dwarf them on this count. No one says a thing if I marry a German woman, you guys want to burn her at the stake and the gaal with her.
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| | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 04:46 am Well, Mad. When the Germans were defeated westerners wanted to make sure that the coming generations of the german people would feel ashamed of what they did during World WarII. All the history books were changed. Being german was reduced to nothing more than being a beast who wants to eat people alive. I don't think It is fair for the current germans to pay the price of one man's evil deeds. But who CAN TELL THAT TO YOUR JEWISH BRETHREN?. They would call me antisemitic already for suggesting not all germans were and are responsible to what happened to them. The numbers of victimcs are flouted too. I don't care anyway but to do fair to history I have to correct your prejudice against the germans. Now this made me laugh "you guys want to burn her at the stake and the gaal with her.". It is religious descrimination not racial although it would appear so. I hope you get that into your pot Irish head. I know you are one ugly big mouthed bitch who can't stay away irritating us but hey You are most welcome to say what you like about us. I know you like doing it your hangover time.
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| | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 06:16 am MAD MAC micnihiisa maxaa waaye? Aniga wax kale oo ku dhihi lahaa aan iska haysahaa inta aad fasireesid macnaha MAD MAC!
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| | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 08:23 am Unimpressed Has it been brought to your attention on your lack of comprehesion?I believe its call something like dyslexia or what not.Your lack of absorbing the topic in hand and your supposition on vigilanting mad mac is quite cumbersome!If you have or pledged a personal battle against Mad or the jew say it so fackingly open! rather than pretending to support or contribute to the topic in hand and personaly attacking Mad mac.I dont like Mad Cow myself but you should not be a coward and show femine emotions here without the shred respect for your masculinity!Grow up my brother and start living! Mad cod disease:I support you NOT but i can distinguish from a arguement and a personal matter.!Adios!
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| | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 09:50 am By starting yar name. . . See no one will vote for a Rude president.
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| | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 10:45 am hi people ,well people iam glad we agreed on few things,Mad Mc , i never thought anyone would get ur vote(judging from wat u wrote in ur posts), but iam glad u agree on certain terms, Unimmpressed, i don't care much about jewish n german, but i think it is unfair to say da germans are innocent , they should be reminded of their evil ,Adolf hitler saw himself as being a phoarah,not a much of christain person ,totally dominance by him n his race is wat he was seeking ,da jewish are as guilty too , total manipulation is wat they do to get their thingz done , Mr hebel , i didn't say wanna be da president,dat is not my real aim ,i wanna start a political party to represent da common man n his needs , by da way da name is stacked with me for a while, but iam good natured person once u come to know me, Mad mac one more not all germans were responsible for those acts ,somehow whole uerope was in it too ,
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| | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 11:01 am All I know not all Germans were responsible for what happened. Hell, my son is German, and my family fought against the NAZIs. And Rude, about all of Europe being in on the game, there's a grain of truth there, but we just don't have time for it tonight.
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| | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 02:43 pm "The most beloved amongs you in the of ALLAH is the 1 who is most god concious" (a verse) keep the AYAH in mind regardles of your race, and race will not save you from the hell fair neither take to heaven. Mean while you keep you race be aware of your creator by fearing him, asking his 4 givness, do the rightous actions and still go to heaven
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| | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 02:58 pm Salam , thankx for da enlightment , Mad Mac ,maybe some other time, bye for now
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| | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 04:21 pm u get my vote , rude somalia for somalis
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| | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 05:49 pm Mad Mac: Take your propoganda to the idiots and self-haters and the credulous fools who will believe it. I am still trying to compose myself so astonished was I by your assertion that Somalis are more racist than Germans. Are these not the same Germans who contemplated the destruction of an entire race. Nearly destroyed an entire continent? The White Man takes a back seat to no one when it comes to racism. Others may be ethnocentric and/or engage in sectarian violence as is the case in Somalia, but when it comes to brutal, dehumanizing enslavement, exploitation and subjugation along race and religious lines your people are truly in the vanguard. If you like I can easily itemize The White man's malfeasance for you and in the final balance you will find your side truly wanting. And you still haven't answered me why America launched missiles on Sudan destroying that country's only pharmaceutical factory. Was it making nerve gas? Why not inspect it as America insists upon in Iraq? Would the Sudanese be uncooperative? They were not uncooperative when they handed the infamous terrorist Carlos to French with all expediency after the French requested it? In fact he Sudanese are now begging the UN for an inspection of the facility much to consternation of Uncle Sam. Usually they bomb people for not cooperating with inspectors. Why is the American taxpayer footing the bill for reparations paid to the owner of the factory? Who will pay reparations to the thousands that may die in Sudan of meningitis, a deadly but easily prevented disease, because of lack of medication? Why was the US arming three neighbouring countries(Eritrea, Ethiopia and Uganda) to destabilize the Sudan before hostilities between Eritrea and Ethiopia put a monkey-wrench in America's strategic works? Any halfway intelligent man can deduce the answers, I need not spell it out.
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| | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 08:56 pm Don't expect someone as hypocrite as MAD to answer your questions. Someone. Why not simply join the MAD GUY and spare us the gibberish.
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| | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 09:55 pm MAD COW UR A LIAR AND UR •••• DONT ADD UP HOW ON EARTH IS UR SON GERMAN ....WHAT R U A DUTCH AND UR MUM IS FRENCH ...HUH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ALSO UR GIRLFRIED HAPPENED TO BE ASIAN ALSO SOMALI LIKE U CLAIMED BEFORE>>>>>>>GEE STOP BULL SHITING DUMP ASS UR ONLY MAKIN A FOOL OF URSELF EVERYTIME U POST SOMETHING DUMMY.
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| | Tuesday, September 05, 2000 - 10:04 pm Unimpressed I may be a lot of things, but I am not a hypocrite. I'm not even sure you know what the word means. Xoogsade Up for a little jousting huh? Allrighty. Let's start with the Germans. Modern day Germans do have some hard core racists - NPD membership is at 600 and there are about 10,000 skin heads in the country. On the other hand, counter-fascist demonstrtions number in the 10s of thousands. I've lived here 10 years and have yet to encounter any skin heads or overtly nationalistic types. Most Germans think the far right are a collection of freaks. Without a doubt there is a backlash against a very high rate of immigration (there are now 7.5 million foreigners living in Germany - almost 10% of the population) combined with a high rate of unemployment. But seldom does this backlash take an extreme form. More foreigners have been killed in Somalia in the last 10 years than in Germany - a lot more. Now, as for the litany of malfeasance that you mentioned. The reason the White Man (Europeans and Americans) have behaved so badly over the last 10 centuries is the same reason why a dog licks his balls, because they could. When Ghengiz Khan came rollling into Europe take a look what he and his mongolian compatriots did. On this score the Arab Muslims have a good track record - that is indisputable. The areas they conquered were subjugated but not brutally. They observed the tenets of Islam well. Their Christian counterparts did not observe the tenets of their religion. Of course, the Somalis weren't even Muslims in the bad ol days. Now as for the Sudanese bombing - you know the saying, play with matches and you're gonna get burned. If the Sudanese hadn't been historically sponsoring terrorists, you know, we wouldn't have bombed them. Whether the plant was manufacturing chemicl weapons is insignificant, what is significant is that the Sudanese have been consistently supporting international terrorists that attack US interests. State sponsored terrorism is war. They were lucky that's all we bombed. You'll notice we didn't bomb the Central African Republic or Guatemala. Why, because they aren't harboring terrorists. As for Carlos the Jackal, handing him over to the French was a smart move. The French have longed yearned to be a monkey in the wrench of American foreign policy, and the Sudanese can certainly use the French to help provide a shield against future American sanction or military action. Carlos is no longer useful in any other way anyway. Now, as for your main thesis, by all means, spell it out. If you mean that we we think the Sudanese government sucks well anyone can figure that out - it does suck. The enemy of my enemy is my friend you know.
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 03:34 am Today's Somalia is safe for nobody and it dishonest of you to make the comparison between Somalia and Germany. But I take the GErman state and people in totality, and indeed the whole west, when it comes to racism. The fact is because of declining birhtrates the west needs an infusion of immigrants whose progeny will continue keep their economies in good supply of manual labour. In many European countries and most especially Germany these "foreigners" do not have the same rights as Germans. Descendant of emigrant Germans who lived in the ex-USSR for 200 years have recently come back to be awarded automatic citizenship but third generation Turko-Germans who have never known any other way of life but the Teutonic one are considered Auslanders. A racist outrage if ever I saw one. As for the Black Americans whom you have reduced to a state just short of that of a wild beast I have already said enough. A poll was conducted among white people that said for $10, 000,000 would you become Black if such a transformation could be arranged. There were few takers. You may be a millionaire but the first cop may shoot you for DWB or some such thing. As for Sudan, tell me of a single incident of Sudanese ties to terrorism. Sudan needs all the western expertise it can get to exploit its natural resources. Talisman a Canadian company as well as Total the French oil giant as well as Malysian and Chinese interests are doing just that to the dismay of the US state department. Sudan was a US client in the days of Nimeiry and Mahdi but became a pariah only when it declared Isalmic law and there is rub. Need I say what happened in Algeria when FIS was poised for victory? Your creed is ISLAMIC LAW = TERRORISM So why don't you tell everyone here your motivation.
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 03:53 am MAD MAC- Slight correction- America- is for the native americans (NOT the ANGLO) All the "anglo" in these here united states- can go squeeze back into the hell-hole they crawled out of (ie. Europe)- Whiteman, you have no claim on this land. Man you need to get a life- seriously, I am worried about your over-active imagination. So now you created a "german" son????
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 03:56 am "I may be a lot of things, but I am not a hypocrite." Yea, worse than a hypocrite, a dog in your expression of licking balls. Is that what you are doing at somalinet?. Licking your balls..?. Somalis made you feel important huh?. I guess you need someone to talk to out of your depression. f_cking moron. And you are being ungrateful for the therapy. you proof me right every time you open your big mouth. You are a hypocrite anyway full of hypocrisy, pecksniffery, sanctimonious, sham and phoniness.
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 06:25 am Germans should not be held resisponsible for the actions of their ancestors, we shouldnt let them forget rude???? well then we shouldnt let ourselves forget that we killed our own bros and sistas....if the germans r not innocent then....we all too r guilty
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 07:19 am hi people , it is me agian ,well guys it is about to stop da german thing , n divert our attention to da topic at hand , Mad Mac i don't mean to steroatype ,but i think other races of humanity find it diffucult live among da Japh(da white man),we had foriegners in our land ,some richer than us , n we were always at peace with them ,atleast for da most part, as for muslims in their conquest in uerope, u are rite ,some had resorted to brutality to ensure da spread of Islam (u wonder why Spain hasn't become a muslim nation ,da arab moors controlled it for 200 years), But larger portion of da muslim world tolerated other religions n people of different ethnic backgrounds, Ottoman was a living example of religious tolerance n harmony ,the great Akbar of india( a Mughal king) had hindus n muslims living at peace , some even inter-married, He even had hindu officials among his ranks, Our prophet (PBUH)in his years encouraged n lived in religiously tolerant empire,Muslims were truely da first people to encourage religious tolerance, BY da way , Mongols run over many parts of da known world ,they went as far as egypt n nearly ended da Islamic empire , so their effects were felt by everybody not just by ueropeans , Mr dose of reality , i beleive in justice n fairness, wat happen in somalia should not be forgetten , i intend to keep their memory alive, how can i forgot da brutal murders of da coastile people n da their women raped , how can i forgot da man-made starvation da Rahanwayn people faced ,how can i forget da mass massacres of issaq n majeerteen people by da former goverment ,how can i forget da innocent lives taken in mogadisho, How can i forget da killings of certain hawiyesub-clans by da former gov, how can i forget da terribles our women n children have gone through, how can i forget da thousands of ogaden refugees,i intend to keep all alive , remind our people of their evil , so history doesn't repeat its'self, i want somalia of free of bigotry , hate , nepotism , favourtism . a somalia for somalia
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 08:10 am For one devil (Mad Mac) to attempt to exonerate his kind (whiteman) of the assault that is racism by use of extremely spurious comparisons is very tasteless, indeed banal. The whiteman’s violation of others’ well-being is NOT defensible and will never be. He is guilty of a plethora of sins against other human beings -‘crimes against humanity’ to borrow one of their own pet phrases. History is littered with desecration caused by non other than conniving Europeans and (lately) Americans. They have enslaved and subjugated whole nations; they have colonised and looted whole continents. They have committed genocide against whole tribes. My view is that even the degrading poverty, anguish and misery that constitutes life in the so-called third world countries is rooted in historical injustices perpetuated by diabolical Europeans and Americans. Presently, they (10%) consume more than 80% of the world’s output while 80% of humanity subsist on less than 10%. I say, I can not fathom a more scandalous state of things! The whole shebang is predisposed to benefit THE WHITE MAN. As for whiteman's racism, nowadays only the fools amonst them (read skinheads etc) need show it. Since it is 'stealthily' institutionalised, ingrained in the system, why holler about it. Here in the UK there was a hilarious TV program that was constantly exposing (and poking fun at) the pathetic state of affairs: One white guy and one coloured guy (both having hidden cameras)were always going for the same job interviews with look-alike CVs and everytime the white guy was comming on top! The most hilarious episode was when they took their cars to the same garage for the same kind of repairs and the coloured guy recieved a higher invoice! That is it.
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 08:43 am National Rudeness and Annoyance Party? . . . Always offer helping hands to those who agitate the rest of us, Nice people?
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 08:45 am Sign me in :-).
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 08:46 am Hey, the face didn't work. Wazup with this?
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 09:21 am Losers,Ignoramuses and imbeciles reign in the somali community. bitches who have mutilated vaginas and niggas who take it up the ass.Quran-freaks who molest little kids and old men who are peodophiles.Somalia ,somalia land so dry and poor like your mothers(hoyo) vaginas.somalia ohh somalia land so sterile and impotent like your fathers penis. 2NY
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 10:20 am I sense anger and frustration in yar remarks. . . Tell me, are U sitting straight now or ya have that rubber cane up in yar..... . . Tell me Freak, What's playing on Broadway? One of them peep shows? "Once upon a Somali Guy"? . . Watch yar language before I slap U silly and call U Susie.
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 10:38 am Hebel ,thankx , i get nothing more to say but dis i wasn't offering any help , all i said was stand for u wat believe, n let's work together in progressing our poverty-stricken nation ,i can argue on political basis(iam not a much of a politician but i could tell da rite from da wrong),plz people don't resort to insults, may be u would like to join me happy face hebel, 2NY, iam not even gonna waste my words on u , i think u watched way too much porno,i have never seen somebody's language so much filthed with sex,
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 12:27 pm hey rude aint u gonna comment for a dose of reality???? cause he has apoint there
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 12:36 pm Hebel , if u won't support the man , isKa aa, mus ATLEAST HE IS TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WITH HIS LIFE, u got my vote rude ,somalia needs political maturity,you might be the right recipe,keep the good work,2ny ,tii ku dhashe Illah ha,o naxariisto,xoogsade, u like somalia way too much , it could be sickness , i would recommend a therapy sessions with certified therapist,lol Mad Mac ,keep ur uerocentric trash to yourself, i don't hate you,but iam just offended by your ignorance, Adios
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 12:42 pm Me ,i did already comment on wat he said, yes somalis are guilty , maybe some more than others but certianly all guilty,
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 01:09 pm actually Ms
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 04:23 pm A DOSE OF REALITY I COMPLETELY AGREE.....GERMANS SHOULD NOT BE BLAMED.INFACT..I FIND THEM CUTE!
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 05:37 pm Rude: You started out so well and then lost your way badly. There has never been any forced conversion of christians in Europe and indeed all the major religions lived harmoniously in Spain after the arrival of Islam and it became a scientific and spiritual hothouse with the Arab newcomers setting about the restoration and translation of Ancient Greek scientific and philosophical texts. The Jews were also prominent in this movement that laid the foundations for the European Renaissance. This whole enterprise came to a crashing halt in the thirteenth century when Pope Gregory instituted the Inquisition, a movement designed to hunt for heretics to Papal dogma. Within a couple of centuries all the muslims and jews were converted or killed or driven out of Europe, as well many christians that disagreed with this Vatican horror. You obviously have heard of the rack. It was the Inquisition's torture instrument of choice. It is a machine that stretches the human body until the joints separate. Another favourite torture was to smash limbs with mallets. Faced with this many either fled or converted. That is how Europe became Islam-free. And the persecution of muslims continues unabated to this day. We have the spectre today of America declaring as its number 1 enemy Islam and any country that chooses to conduct its affairs in the manner instructed by Allaah. What blasphemous conceit. Do not be swayed by cheap and easily disproved propoganda.
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 05:49 pm Anon wednesday 5:36pm: Why am I getting these vibes? I know of only one person who has that beguiling style... and you know who you are...
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 08:57 pm Xoogsade , i don't so much care about da history, it is these people dat diverted my energy to other arguments,true da muslims encourged harmony n tolerance , but there were occosional outbursts of brutality dat certain muslims had perpuatated, Good example is mohammed Ghazni of Afghanistan who invaded India eight times just to slaughter Hindus n take a loot,By da way , i don't buy into mere cheap propoganda,i analyze things critically, A SISTA , are da jewish innocent too considering wat they did to the palestines, keep one thing in mind , da germans are ones who set out to wipe out a entire race(jewish) n make other races their slaves,it is one thing to go at war with a race n it is another to encourage total elimination of entire race, tell me how would have felt if Ethopia set out to kill every somali in somalia,n they had da means to do dat, History shouldn't be forgotten,forgiveness is encoureged though, peace
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| | Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 09:04 pm i think german women are acute ,i have been to munich several times n i find them interesting , but still germans are guilty,what they did was very inhumane,
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| | Thursday, September 07, 2000 - 12:22 am Good grief there's a lot of stuff to address here. You guys have been busy. Let's start with one invective I see hurled against me over and over - that I am anti-Somali and anti-Islam. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am willing to risk my life to see Somalia achieve peace, stability and economic prosperity. Pointing out the occasional objection to something Somali or pointing out flaws I PERCEIVE in Islam or Somali society does not mean I hate Somalis or Islam. That would be throwing the baby out with the bath water. The 1911 Encyclopedia Britanica says of the Somalis "intelligent, avracious, keenly sensitive to ridicule.... little political or social cohesion." Boy, did they get that right. As for the Germans. Yes, my son is German. I don't think Germans (or anyone else for that matter) should pay for the sins of their fathers. Yes, German society tends to be racist, but not overwhelmingly so. Germans regard Blacks with the same disdain that you regard gaal. Anonbig Your view of world economy is overly simplistic. It is true the Western world consumes over 80% of the worlds resources. It is also true that the West produces over 80% of the worlds products and food. If you deduce that the West is diabolical and clever then you must deduce the "third world" is naive and stupid. There's a flip side to every coin. Is there racism in America - you bet. Is there racism in Europe - yep. Is there racism in Japan - most definately, they call us Gaijin there. Is there racism in Somalia - hell just read this page here. How do the ethnic Somalis treat the Bantu living in Somalia? How do the ethnic Somalis get along with the Kenyan tribes like the Kikuyu to the south (they can't stand you guys if you haven't figured it out yet)? There's enough racism and prejudice to go around all over the planet. So get off it. Why don't we just all agree that racism and prejudice is bad and leave it at that. Now as for Algeria, why do you think the West in general and the US in particular are oppossed to an Islamic government? Is it Sharia there afraid of? Remember, we don't think like you guys. We couldn't care less if you worshipped aliens. But countries will protect their interests. The fundamentalists in Algeria would likely have aligned themselves with Iraq, Libya and Iran - this loose coalition of West and US haters. That left us in the uncomfortable position of having to choose between the pro-west facists or the anti-west fundamentalists. Personally I think we made the wrong choice, but I can see how we got there. If the fundamentalists had more of a cooperate and graduate kind of attitude it wouldn't have led to this. The West and the US require oil - we buy it fair and square. Someone threatens those oil supplies and the hammer is coming down - end of story. On the other hand, if the Arab world is reasonable with us (witness Egypt which receeives HUGE infusions of US aid or Saudi Arabia which lives off the largess of HUGE amounts of petro-dollars) we are reasonable with it. Frankly, it's in everyone interest to see economic improvement in the Middle East and Africa just like it hurt us when during the Asian economic collapse. We need markets for our products and there are no markets when no one has money to buy your product. It is not a zero sum game. Economic improvement in Africa means economic improvement in America. Lastly, where did you see me attempt to exonerate European or American excesses? I simply stated why they happened and also explained human nature is human nature. Give some other group an opportunity (hence the Ghengis Khan example) and they'll be bad boys too. You want to make a racists accusation (that there's something intrinsically evil with white people based on your historical observations) and then at the same time say that racism is not acceptable and produce examples of racism being practiced in England. So which is it? Either racism is bad and you acknowledge that you must judge people one at a time (this would include white people) or some races have certain traits (this would include black people) and therefore racism is acceptable. I'm of the former school of thought. Xoogsade Where are you living dude? You've got to be here in Europe somewhere. For anyone who wants to E-Mail me and debate some more (I know, I move more than a Somali Nomad) my E-mail address is now: iikorpsg2of@hq.c5.army.mil
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| | Thursday, September 07, 2000 - 07:47 am well siad mr gaal(Mad mac),
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| | Thursday, September 07, 2000 - 07:54 am well Mr Mac mac , i can see a change in ur tone, so u are saying it is ok to protect ur interest if dat means taking out few folks, well i would agree on one thing, da west is looking out for it's interests, i guess it is us who forget to take care of our own ,well we wanna established somali gov dat look out for somalia's interests, bye for now
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| | Thursday, September 07, 2000 - 09:12 am at least the germans didnt kill their bros and sistas but we did....so how do we encourage forgiveness within ourselves....i mean it is true wat Ms dose of reality said, we r all guilty while the german ppl have to ask forgiveness from the jews and we have to ask forgiveness from Allah....but we r truly worse then the germans for we killed our own ppl
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| | Thursday, September 07, 2000 - 10:43 am Mr Anon , how many times do i have to repeat dis everyone of us is guilty of something ,wat iam looking for is where we go from here , we surely cant' be stuck in da past ,alot crimes did happen in somalia ,we get to learn from da past (dat's why i would suggest we should hold a memorail day for all those lost their lives ,their lost shouldn't be in vain , i have known people from different tribes dat nearl lost all their families),i myself have a lost an uncle in da war, he died coz of a name , iam willing to forgive n look towards da future, i know it is not easy but we could try , by da way ,we are not only race or nation dat we have gone through civil wars ,history is filled with civil wars dat took place in different parts of da world ,just to name few french revolution(the peasant uprising as it is better known),Da russian revolution where literally millions were killed,da most recent ones in seirro leone , where people were killed n their limbs amputated by child soldeirs, we can't be any worse but we surely commited unacceptable crimes agianst our people , peace
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| | Thursday, September 07, 2000 - 12:16 pm peace n love for all somalis
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| | Thursday, September 07, 2000 - 12:45 pm but we r not them...we r us so we should fucose on ourselves
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| | Thursday, September 07, 2000 - 02:53 pm Anon, u are pain in da ass , i know we are not them ,n dis is wat i have been seeing all along, we should look out for our kind , peace
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| | Thursday, September 07, 2000 - 10:18 pm Rude I didn't cast judgement on whether something was right or wrong or not. I'm just telling them how it is. Is gravity right or wrong - I know it sucks if you're at 10,000 feet without a parachute. Nations will move to protect their interests. As the great Clausewitz said, war is an extension of politics by other means. If a countries vital resources are threatened it's going to fight to protect them. Any country, anywhere. Right or wrong ain't got nothing to do with it.
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| | Friday, September 08, 2000 - 03:36 am well Mr mad mac , we came back to the very first idea dat i came up with , protecting ur interests if it means going to war for it,i mean putting somalia pieces back together might take some more lives (if normal procedures fail),as countries like Kenya mightn't be willing to give up the land without putting up a fight, by da way don't get me wrong,i love when things are in peaceful manner ,but i might resort to voilence as way getting wat's truely mine,
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| | Friday, September 08, 2000 - 07:16 am Violence to obtain the NFD? You're kidding right? That's almost as dumb as the Arabs and Israelis fighting over the Sinai. There's some people who deserve each other, the Arabs and Israelis. But I digress. Anyway, you know what the problem is with fighting Ethiopia over the Ogaden and Kenya over the NFD? There's more of them than there are of you. They also have more friends than you do. Let it go. You guys have the moral high ground on this one, but in this world that ain't enough.
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| | Monday, September 11, 2000 - 09:37 am HI Mad Mac ,it might be a dumb idea but i feel it is our moral obligation to re-untie , after all people in kenya n ogaden are our people ,n i believe they face alot of uncertainy with these with these regimes , n i truely believe they will face very chronic form of racism ,this might sound totally unresearched but i feel the ethnic somalis are most-hated in east africa,we would use all means necessary , first dioluge , if dat won't work ,anything dat leads to victory without costing us a lot ,i beleive Ethopia could be the most susceptable when it comes to ethnic issues , with it's diverse ethnic groups , we could use to push our agenda's through these ethnic lines, in otherwords , we could spreadhead da resistance movement lead by the oromo ,we could encourage other groups to fight for their righteous place , deciet n manupilation could be used to grant victory , well as u said Nations might do anything to protect n get wat's is theirs
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| | Monday, September 11, 2000 - 09:39 am VIVA SOMALIA <ALL SOMALIA HATERS < DON'T KEEP ON BITCHING <WE WILL HAVE OUR DAY
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| | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 02:49 am Listen apes. Come back to talk about world domination when you know what a TV and a remote controller are. With your current technology you could maybe, just maybe, scare your pet goat. As for Islamic faith; sure, you guys just stick to your faith I'll stick to my Level IV vest.
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| | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 03:32 am WHO? why are so panariod- did a somali girl dumbed your sorry ass?
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| | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 06:21 am While i do agree to preserve our culture and traditions in this western hemisphere i am bit skeptical about your motive. Why now when we(somalis) are at each others neck. A word of advice on my part. Our people are the sole destructors of our culture if you recall what has taken place the last forty years that somalia was independent. Governments did not invest a penny of the people's money to promote and preserve our culture rather they destroyed it by turning us against each other. Now we the somalis are known to be butchers of their own people. We also earned a reputation of not being able to rule ourselves. If your intentions are to preserve these crooked people then good luck. You indeed have tough job ahead of you. I am so ashamed to call my self a WARLORD, MORIYAAN, JIRI, RAPIST, LOOTER, and etc. That in my opinion is what somalis have come to symbolise. In a nut shell i rather be any other nationality than that of my own. Sad but true.
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| | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 11:24 am Devils-wisedom -i do agree with you my man -but running from our problems won't solve anything- we should confront and face our problems -we shouldn't sit and wait for our destiny to come but we should try to shape our future.indeed this is our lowest moment in history but we could make it change as long as we invest in our land , children and women.
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| | Saturday, December 09, 2000 - 01:30 pm Rude, My brother,I am afraid that the shiit will never work.Somalis can't unite for five minutes,withought later being at each other's throats.We are so fuckking individualistic,that each man wants to be his own king.You almost sound as if you are suggesting that somalis in the horn,pick up arms and invade our neighbors.Even if that happened,I think we would loose.If it were that easy we would have taken over ethiopia 200 years ago. The cold hard truth is that: 1.somalia is one of the poorest countries in the world. 2.Somalia has a long record of internal strife. 3.Somalis are amongst some of the least educated people in africa. 4.There is an extremely individualistic mean spiritness in somali culture(mainly with men),that makes it highly unlikely that we will ever you unite and throw away our petty differences. I could go on and on.....
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| | Saturday, December 09, 2000 - 01:44 pm Mad mac, Your knowledge of somali history and people surprises me.Anyways,I agree with most of what you say and I think that it's a waste of time argueing with somali dudes like rude boy.I run into his type all the time,especially when the men are over 30 years old.Nine times out of ten they where reared to believe that somalis are superior to all other races. Somali racism and bigotry is so absurd and misplaced that it's amazing.I would love for anyone to tell me just one area where somalis manifest their superiority.This ridiculous notion that we are better than other groups is highly outdated.We go on and on about kufur,infidel whites,adoons,jareers etc...but in actuality,they are a lot better off than we our.How many somali doctors or professionals are there?Also,when you look at west africans,it's apparent that they are way more educated and richer than somalis are.It's this"superiority complex"that hinders somali's development,because they can sit around,collect a wellfare check,and still think to themselves"well,I may be a lazy bum,but at least I am a superior somali". Last thing,I hate to admit it but I think that somalis are as racist(deep down inside) as germans were during world war two.The only differences is that we can't make tanks,planes,bombs,radios etc...it's a good thing that we can't because the horn of africa would be more of a wasteland than it already is.
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