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Mind evaluation for xoogsade,somalisis, hebel and all the entrouge oops n ofcoarse Mad Mac

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Margilanise

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 07:45 am
Your brains and level of thinking can be catogerised in three sections.

1.The conscious mind----highly rational and sophisticated. Only few people in this forums
actaully have that .a prime example would be
the characters Somali-yankee and SG.Others could
develop if nurtured the right way.

2.The emotions---hypothalumus/primative brain
(fear,pain ,hunger ,sex etc).Majority in this forums fall under this catogery.Examples are somalisista, MO ,hebel ,---and the list goes on.

3.Unconscious but not emotive intiutive mind
(highly rational and sophisticated, more powerful than conscious mind).These are well
oreinted people but they have hard time realising
their dreams. Basra and xoogsade are good examples though Xoogsade is xenophobic.
Mad mac your case needs more in-depth analysis
since you are an outsider.

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Basra

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 09:11 am
Margilanise LOL

Why am i always linked with this guy?How can i be in the same category as him?Do i have an aunt or uncle somewhere who cursed me ?Its not entertaining you know.

How come you said i dont realise my dream?Can you please be more clear.Its interesting.LOL

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observer

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 09:12 am
Hey, u forgot Alipapa, the emotionally disturbed clown

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Dhalfoguduud

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 09:17 am
stop reading fraudian theory jack fuckkk

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Marginalise

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 03:32 pm
Observer, this was for all frequent contributors
to the forumss including the desert man himself
Ali Papa( it should be Ali BaBa , they don't have
P in arabic right?)
Basra , what i meant by that is you ideally believe in certain set of principles but you don't
necesarely live by them , in other words you use
more of your frontal lobes- reasoning-thinking-
judging-etc. you induce logic and facts in your
arguments which are positive and ethically moral
but i also think ( correct me if iam wrong) know
your obligation to your-self and to who you are.
As for Mr Xoogsade he is very much like you but has just a negative trend , he is aware of wat is around but sometimes uses selective amnesia to
justify his negetivity and also his obsession with
his race.
Dhalfoguduud , i just try to observe and analyze
what people say, i hate reading by the way.

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Anonymous

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 03:34 pm
Dhalfoguduud u certainly belong to the second
catogery judging by the way u wrote.
If u have nothing to say shut up than

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somalisister

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 03:38 pm
Marginalise-and what about you? It's like watching a football game and beleiving that if you were there you could do better.
I REST MY CASE- I DON'T LIKE ARGUING IN SELF DEFENSE..

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Basra

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 06:43 pm
Marganalise


"in other words you use
more of your frontal lobes- reasoning-thinking-
judging-etc. you induce logic and facts in your
arguments which are positive and ethically moral
but i also think ( correct me if iam wrong) know
your obligation to your-self and to who you are."Marganalise-are ya sure ya not allergic to margarine?Use Butter instead-BEG YOU!
How can that statement sound more silly than that?I induce logic and facts that carry moraity and ethics -and know obligation to my self?Numero uno-how does my obligations fit in that sentence?Obligation to............it looks like the sentence is incomplete.And necessarily i dont live by the morality?Unless you are Malaaiika for good deed on my right hand who records my ' unsolicited imorality'....i beg for a pardon.Ya heard??lol.Take ya 86 cents annalysis to the boards of psychology certification and convince them that you are sane ya self before practicing any 'waah waaah stuff'. lol

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hebel

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 06:54 pm
Now this is what I call a community collage graduate Doctor.
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All ya'll ever gonna get paid with will be food stamps cause those are the only humans who can afford yar precious gift.
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Now this is a real freaky man...
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I think IM allowed to say that on national TV.

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BigO.

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 11:36 pm
Marginalize.

Question-1:

Do you feel an urgent need in your heart to find tranquility?.

Question-2:

Do you think human beings can be satisfied in their desires of want and need?.

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Marginalise

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 11:48 pm
HAHAAHHAAAAAA well basra i see i got pissed off,
i twisted my words just to see how you react and
quite frankly you fialed , you almost sunk to hebel's level. what i was trying to say is that your conscience are solely a product of their own intellectual efforts ,without outside influence.
Conscience is shaped by two forces that are essentailly outside people's control-natural endowment and socail conditioning.Natural endowment translates into practical and philosiphical intellengence. a person with practical intellengence and a person with philosiphical intellengence will not have the same potentail perceptiveness for moral issues however no one is void of morals. well u said u don't live by morality , than u must be believe in relativism-it is a view that no objective moral standard is possible; hence issues of right and wrong are subjective and personal and may be decided by each person him or herself without danger of being wrong.Even such people develop their own standard form of morals-it is subject to
flactuation though.
Well as for you mr hebel,You lack what is called
socail conditioning--a myriad effects of one's enviroment: people ,places ,ideas, institutions ,
one has been exposed to as they grow up.you are either bolivain coke addict who came in 80's in harlem and the d.c area. or you are early 90's arrivals who enrolled in four collage ,graduated and coins the rest of the somali soceity as ignorant asses. so my verdict for you -try to understand -analyse-and reflect everytime you open
ur mouth.
And atlast somalisista , well what about me?
i will be willing to hear ur judgements about me
i don't like arguing in self defense too, i wish
i had john cochran everytime i had to defend my-self verbally. anyway i gotta tell one thing though,you crack me up everytime i came across your postings in dis forums,iam amazed with the way
you try to handle the issues of African americans
dating somali girls , you reminded me of Sen.john mcCain when he faced with the issue of the confederacy flag hanging in North carolina's state house. he used politically correct massages to get his views on the flag to the christain right extremists and the african americans , you apply
the same tactics when it comes to your postings.
may be you should be a politicain coz you feel one thing but say the opposite.
peace

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marginalise

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 11:56 pm
BigO, to answer your first question , i would have joined the budhist monks of tibet or may be join
a cult if i was looking for a traquality.
as for second well we can try to satify humans
but it is always nearly impossible. their needs and wants increase with their acquirements.
peace

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Marginalise

Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 11:58 pm
HAHAAHHAAAAAA well basra i see i got U pissed off,
i twisted my words just to see how you react and
quite frankly you fialed , you almost sunk to hebel's level. what i was trying to say is that your conscience are solely a product of their own intellectual efforts ,without outside influence.
Conscience is shaped by two forces that are essentailly outside people's control-natural endowment and socail conditioning.Natural endowment translates into practical and philosiphical intellengence. a person with practical intellengence and a person with philosiphical intellengence will not have the same potentail perceptiveness for moral issues however no one is void of morals. well u said u don't live by morality , than u must be believe in relativism-it is a view that no objective moral standard is possible; hence issues of right and wrong are subjective and personal and may be decided by each person him or herself without danger of being wrong.Even such people develop their own standard form of morals-it is subject to
flactuation though.
Well as for you mr hebel,You lack what is called
socail conditioning--a myriad effects of one's enviroment: people ,places ,ideas, institutions ,
one has been exposed to as they grow up.you are either bolivain coke addict who came in 80's in harlem and the d.c area. or you are early 90's arrivals who enrolled in four collage ,graduated and coins the rest of the somali soceity as ignorant asses. so my verdict for you -try to understand -analyse-and reflect everytime you open
ur mouth.
And atlast somalisista , well what about me?
i will be willing to hear ur judgements about me
i don't like arguing in self defense too, i wish
i had john cochran everytime i had to defend my-self verbally. anyway i gotta tell one thing though,you crack me up everytime i came across your postings in dis forums,iam amazed with the way
you try to handle the issues of African americans
dating somali girls , you reminded me of Sen.john mcCain when he faced with the issue of the confederacy flag hanging in North carolina's state house. he used politically correct massages to get his views on the flag to the christain right extremists and the african americans , you apply
the same tactics when it comes to your postings.
may be you should be a politicain coz you feel one thing but say the opposite.
peace

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BigO.

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 12:47 am
marginalize.(Sorry to bother you).


Q- How a person with a Practical intelligence doesn't have the same moral perceptiveness as the person with philosophical intelligence?. Care to further comment on the subject?.

You said:

"Natural endowment translates into practical and philosiphical intellengence."

Practical intelligence is one that is acquired through practice or action, rather than theory, speculation, or ideals. Where philosophical intelligence is one acquired through investigation of causes and laws underlying reality. I don't think one can be in essence without the other. Though expressed differently, they seem plainly to be interconnected. Are they separate as you denote?.

Another Q:

Do you beleive "Let your conscience be your guide in all matters?". I mean, is it enough for you to base your morality on instinct only?. I am just curious here my friend. I Want to get some irregularities in my head straight if you don't mind my inquisitiveness.

About relativism; Can we say that what you hold morally rebugnant can also be held by me in the same way though we might belong to different groups for example or beleifs etc etc?. I mean, do we have to be in the same group or culture to view gayism for example to be sexual perversion?. Or naked men and women immoral?. I see flaws in relativism. Do you see the same way as I do?. I wanted to know your idea on those thoughts you initaited in this discussion. Tell me if I sound nuisance though, I will get lost. This is not my side of the forums anyway.

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somalisister

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 04:10 am
hmmmmmmmmmmm marginalise my opinion of you?..Actully i don't have an opinion of you-i just want to know when god died and you took over as judge--was i sleeping that long?

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MAD MAC

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 05:27 am
Marginalise
I am usually regarded as reasonably intelligent with more than a touch of hubris. I'm definately a good analyst. Let me know when you complete the psychoanalysis.

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Basra

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 05:31 am
somalisister

Sub'hannallah? When God dies?No comment.Say -
Tuubtuu ya Rabi

Marginalise-Comment:I'm not charmed!

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Marginalise

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 12:22 pm
BigO ,a person with a practical intellengence does
not look beyond reality to find the underlying
truth while one with philosiphical intellengence
is investigative by nature and look for governing laws as a way of knowing why things are
the way they are.Both forms of intellengence are in every-body but usually one pre-dominates the other and ofcoarse is also influenced by socail
conditioning( our sorroundings) which is a big
shaper of conscience.
to answer your second question , you could almost
always depend on your conscious to be your guide
but it doesn't work always in every situation . a prime example of your conscious being put to a test would be the amputation of a limb for a theft in the Islamic Sharia , as a human being following his conscience - you think mutilating any being is barbaric but as a practising Muslim -you chose to believe otherwise and try to justify this action through God's Words,Other examples could be derived from parts of the globe ,An isolated tribe in Pupua New Gunie off the indonesian island chains used to indulge in ex-marital sex and kill young baby girls everytime the female population exceeds their male counterparts.They are humans too , their conscience says one thing but they practise the oppisite.The ancient Greeks used to gather adolescent boy in place where they kept them naked and beat them with sticks , that was their way of welcoming the boys into manhood,here again your consceince tell you one thing but they had their own reasons for doing it.
to answer your last question-you don't have belong
to any group to believe in relativism-it is basically your own set rules and you may apply
them as you like as long as you don't prove ur-self wrong. the oppisite to this is the absoletism ,these are accepted set of principals that are to be true in everything and everywhere.
you will have to belong to a group to believe in this, in other words almost every somali would agree that homosexuality is not healthy thing and it is morally ill.the same way every person of Anglo-saxon(english) decent who believes in absoletism would think they are more superior to
their Hosts the Celtics( Irish, welsh and scotish).i hope i made all clear bro
Somalisista , "When God Dies" i like to know what
do you believe in? as for idea of judging ,how can you not judge , that's absurd , how do youtell the right from the wrong -the evil from the good .
barsa- well,u sound reasonably now.
Mad Mac -i need to go my heirachy level of thinking to deduce a fair conclusion on you.
i did however observe one thing , you know how to
comprise . by the way i didn't think you were any different from the group here ,it is just you had too much influences from so many people.
peace people.

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Alipapa

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 03:20 pm
Marginalise;

i felt being marginalized.

BTW i got two questions to ask since your phylosopher here?

1-What is a cold?(the opposit of hot). to praphrase it, is there such thing called cold?.

2-What about dark?(the opposit of light). to praphrase it, is there such thing called dark?.


Alipapa

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Marginalise

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 05:43 pm
well mr baba if you are looking for the literal
meanings of cold and dark think of Zamhariira (did i say it right)and the satan. if not than cold means cruel or mean and dark means evil.
i hope u weren't referring them to me.
Adios

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Marginalise

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 05:52 pm
Mad Mac i meant it compramise not comprise(i mispelled).Are you from the north east by the way.

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Basra

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 06:04 pm
Marganalise

The whole symbolism of your annalysis is profoundly dull.You present psychic manifestation that only is createing only existing state of mind confussion into figuring out your subjects (Unfortunately the subject being its me and among other).If you would like any hint or annalytical data from me;i could graciously apprice you that i am in a complete confident state of "NIRVANA".Maybe i could advice you to see the person within you and find that heart that lacks somewhere in there and speak to it.LOL.I also cannot but be more circumspective enough to afford you my personal annalysis on you.regretably i'll use a word that you oftenly use..."concious"......you appear to have an insufficient quantity of consciousness.I suggest you get aKilo gram weighter - to know exact numeric quantity to know your equilibrium point of revelations.LOLOLOLOL.
(I took the liberty to be more wordly lol)

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Marginalise

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 07:53 pm
well Basra ,i was just trying to make a connection
between philosiphical mind and practical one .
bridging the gap between these will invetably result in confusion. what this has get to do with
my subjects-they all claim to be one or the other.
i dought you are in complete state of NIRVANA
as you could be manipulated and emotionally activated . As for me ,i already know the person
within me but thankz for advise anyway .
Mr ALI PAPA one more thing , iam not a philosopher
but a curious observer.

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MAD MAC

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:55 pm
I am originally from the Northeast. I'm living in Europe now.

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the learnerBigO

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 11:04 pm
Basra.

That is what psychology is for. To confuse and create doubts, To look at things with suspicious eyes, Never to beleive in anything, and as long as something can't be proven it is nonexistant, Remember knowledge is empirical?. And beleifs are man made ideologies to cope with the uncertainty?. Does atheism ring a bell here?.

One time a well known Imam called Shafici was asked the proof of existence of GOD and he replied:

"The leaf of the mulberry tree! Its colour, smell taste and everything about it seem one and the same to you. However, if a caterpillar eats it and it comes out as fine silken thread. A bee feeds on it and it comes out as honey. A sheep eats it and it comes out as dung. Gazelles chew on it and it congeals producing the fragrance of musk. Who has made all these different things come from the same type of leaf?"


Okey, Marginalize(You made it clear bro)
I have a difference of opinion though:

I am not here to dimiss any idea. I accept the good and reject the bad. There is some truth in the teachings of psychology and I am bound to accept those for my benefit and intellectual excersize.

" how do you tell the right from the wrong -the evil from the good ."


Prophet mohammed scw said: ""Righteousness is good morality, and wrongdoing is that which wavers in your soul and which you dislike people finding out about." related by Muslim. Say for example, would someone like people see him musterbate(Unless wicked)?. The answer is no. Would the same person mind people seeing him help others?. No, though he might not do the action of helping others to be seen, yet in his conscience he knows that no one will blame him for doing good.

You gave an incorrect suggestion when you said "I know myself". How can you judge others when you beleive you don't need to be judged because you know yourself?. Are you perfect in every sense?. Yourself doesn't matter to the world and how you view yourself. What matters is, how others view you and what impression they have of you. That is why morality and good behaviour is made top priority in islam.


"a prime example of your conscious being put to a test would be the amputation of a limb for a theft in the Islamic Sharia , as a human being following his conscience - you think mutilating any being is barbaric but as a practising Muslim -you chose to believe otherwise and try to justify this action through God's Words,"

If there is a test in islamic faith for its adherents, it is to test their allegiance to it. Will they truly keep their promise of accepting islam or will they compromise?. I didn't choose to beleive it was right to punish the thief in one hand and think on the other that the punishment is barbaric. I belief it all befits. The thief gets what he/she deserves for stealing what doesn't belong to him/her. I keep in mind the victimized not the well-being of the victimizer. I also know that It is very hard to convict someone in islam because of the conditions put forth to find someone guilty of the crime. If there is no confession on the part of the person or there is no witness who saw the crime take place, or no other means to prove exactly the crime was committed by someone, I guess freedom is the underlined word in islam for the defendant.

The Messenger of Allah said:

"Were people to be given in accordance with their claim, men would claim the fortunes and lives of
[other] people, but the onus of proof is on the claimant, and the taking of an oath is incumbent upon him who denies."

related by Al-Baihaqi and others

- As for Alipapa's Question:

Darkness is the absence of light and light is the absence of darkness.

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Marginalise

Friday, September 22, 2000 - 09:54 am
BigO , you hit a homer , psychology is to create
doubts and look everything with suspicious eyes.
well iam glad we differ but as you said the important thing is accepting good and rejecting the bad. well as for me "knowing my self" , what i was trying to say is that iam very much aware of my current state of my mind and yeah people can judge me , it is privelage given to everybody-
i try to learn from all judgement passed on me by
people wether it's negative , positive or degrading, i judge people too based on sound understanding and practical observation, in this case i tried to deduct the conclusion from postings by various individauls , i might have misjudged certian people but after all we are humans , we are destined to be wrong and be wronged ,one thing i don't do though is that i never under-estimate any human.
well about my example , well you are about that but agian if you were in place where some-one's body were to be mutilated , you will feel a chill
passing through your body and you think this shouldn't carried out, Does the person deserve the punishment , oo yeah and the verdict would have been the same in any law that are practised in given regions.
hay Mad Mac , so you are from northeast - well i love the place i use to live in pittsfield MA. ofcoarse we were the only people of color in my neighborhood, we use to go boston and springfield just to see color people lol.anyway iam in the big apple now. by the way uerope is a nice place too,
i was there this summer with my childhood friend and bunch of my collage mates to celebrate our graduation, we went to amsterdam , some primarly went there to get high -they have cafes where you could smoke dope-i couldn't believe it, the dutch girls are real nice- for first time i was seriously tempted to fish outside my race but i love somali queens too much. anyway we also went to munich and man do they have the wildest drinking parties ,the place is reknown for it's Bravarian liqour- of coarse i didn't drink ,but my mates passed out literally.we went to berlin too and get in trouble one time with skinheads and the second time with a turkish immigrant there ,unfortunatey both times the same police officers came to the place , they let us go first time but we weren't so understanding the second time ,so we had to be freed by the embassy , no criminal charges just a lecture on how american should keep low-profile while traveling abroad , and man berlin is really big -seven times bigger than paris , we usually navigate throught ny city easily but berlin was quite something.anyway which part of northeast are from you , and i know you probably heard this question many times ,were are so interested in somalis and somalia , do they stick out from other places you were posted.
peace people.

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Alipapa

Friday, September 22, 2000 - 09:57 am
Marginalise;

Well, i think what i was trying to say was there is nothing called absolute truth in this world. Everything is relative to something else.

Being animal with some inteligencia, man developed a language. And within this language he developed culture-way of life and. And within the culture, he developed way of reasoning to explain things and the way they happen and to establish some kind of rigth and wrong.

But unfortuantely, man came up with something that doesn't exist. and to his woes, man based on some of his reasoning something that doesn't exist to begin with.


One exmaple is in many language we, have something called a cold.

In fact, there is no absolutely something called "Cold".

Cold is the absence of "Heat". And Scientifically speaking, We know heat is energy. we can feel it. We can measure it in( Fahrenheit or celsius). but we can't measure "cold". to give you an example of how we can't measure a cold, when we say today the weather is (-60 f), we still measuring a heat. It is the heat that went that low. We are not measuring a cold.


same goes to darkness. as "the learnerBigO" put it 'Darkness is the absence of light' which means there is no such thing called darkness. But light is real. It is energy. we all know how to measure the speed of light. but no one knows how to emasure speed of darkness.

same goes to directions-like norht, east , west, and south. These are nothing but a bull of crap. The world is a globe and has no such thing called directions.

For instance, if you go east and go into straight line, you will find yourself at the same spot--where you started your departure but you are coming from west. why?.

Remember you went east. And now you are coming from west!. when did you finish the border of east and when did enter the border of the west ?. they were imagination, to begin with.

so what was my point here. My point was simple, many things we take their existence for granted are questionable. For that reason, it is childish to claim absolute thruth.


alipapa

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Basra

Friday, September 22, 2000 - 10:22 am
learner brother

Psychology does not have any connection with my life.Its just another Class i have to take to get to my real subject.So i'm saying...it's a crap of studilogy that bugs the bugzy out of me.

Marginalise

The different between philosophy and Practicality is,
Philosophy:The ideaology of self expression with back ups of intelect with regard to political science or intelligence science.
Practicality:Is just a verb that can be broadly defined,but i will say its anything with clear process and practical results.Thats me.GET PRACTICAL WOULD YA?

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the learner.

Friday, September 22, 2000 - 02:46 pm
Alipapa.

"For instance, if you go east and go into straight line, you will find yourself at the same spot--where you started your departure but you are coming from west. why?."

That is because the earth is designed like a huge ball where if you travell from one side straight you will come back to the same spot from the other direction. The size of the earth compared to your size is what determines the direction you want to look at. You are a tiny spot on a huge planet remember?. Also the sun and the moon play a huge role in assisting human beings their directions where they call east, west or north and south. "6.96 He it is that cleaveth the day-break (from the dark): He makes the night for rest and tranquillity, and the sun and moon for the reckoning (of time): Such is the judgment and ordering of (Him), the Exalted in Power, the Omniscient."


If the earth was built flat and square, we would be able to see the edges of it and thus from there on have limits on our movements. It wouldn't be easy ride for us to live in the earth then.

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SomaliAttorney

Friday, September 22, 2000 - 03:40 pm
Alipapa:
We convicted you wrongly the other day when you were fighting with everyone who said "ALI YOU ARE WRONG". I don't mean you were wrong absolutely but according to your surrounding your actions were unacceptable and ridiculously childish.

Based on evidence at hand, we thought you were adolescent.

Now, I agree with Observer.

I rest my case.

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hebell

Friday, September 22, 2000 - 03:41 pm
We've got real freaky psychics on crystals.
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And I don't mean the ball.
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Moonshine damn it...MOONSHINE!!!

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Margilanise

Friday, September 22, 2000 - 07:26 pm
Mr Alipapa , you misread my point -i said absolitism is true only in group that's concentrated in particular area- it is their set
of rules that are norm and followed by everyone in the group.i took the example of the anglo-saxons feeling superior to the celtics- there is no absolete truth but there is a universal truth,
any moraly sane person would agree it is wrong to kill any being for no obvious reasons-
Basra- u get to be believing in some of ideology,
a practical person lives by the day and doesn't look beyond today . by the way you keep changing your character like a rattle snake shedding it's skin.
Somali-attorney what did Ali PAPA DID?
Hebel , i don't like people who look down on others-learn to apprecaite people my man,

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the learner.

Friday, September 22, 2000 - 09:24 pm
Basra.

It is nothing to worry about. If you carefully look at what PSYCH teaches you will find out it is observable behaviour as well non observable. Everybody can figure out most of what they talk about. Furthermore, all commentators on the subject don't have the same background as everyone else. They represented their western view of observation and forced it into the throughts of others as civilazation and made it universal understanding of human behaviour. They recently legitimzed the subject by adding few scientific facts relating neuro-science and neurology. Most of their theories are not reliable. They don't work in practice. That is why many kids are diagnosed wrongfully every year and end up handicapped by the wrong prescription. To put it right, I say "It is f_cked up subject". Those who teach themselves need hospitalized. They end up crazy themselves in the end and can hardly deal with anybody.

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SomaliAttorney

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:52 am
Margilanise: Here's the piece..hope it works - I am not good @ copy/paste lol

http://somalinet.com/forums_archives/6050/7084.html

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Marginalise

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 10:17 am
somali-attorney interesting -somali gender war
i will need time to digest all that,i feel sorry
he call somali women bitches- he need to realise our women are reflection of us and vice-versa,
without them we won't exist us a nation or race.
true somalis are going through rough times but we will survive through it.
Biglearner -i do agree the subject to drive people crazy and people can lose your perspective
by the way i don't preach westernization

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Anonymous

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 11:13 am
Marginalise can you analyze GhettoGirl Because i think shes confused and sexually frastrated teen who talks bull •••• all the time peace and thanks for your help
P.S Ghettogirl if your reading this •••• you bitch

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the learner.

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:28 pm
Bro marginalize.

Have a good time. I didn't say you preach westernization. Feel free and unrestricted. I told you this is not my area. I happen to check sometimes to see what mad mac is upto. I am hired to do some detective work on the guy. care to tell me what you meant by saying "People can lose your perspective sometimes"?.

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hebel

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:44 pm
I certainly don't appreciate yar remarks about us; God loving, back breaking, hard working and Forum loving people.
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The other thing that I appreciate the most is Canbar or Babaay, which neither U have.
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So as long ya ain't none of those I've stated above the only thing left to say to U is, my friend:
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GET TO STEPPING.
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Anymore of yar say-says can and will be directed to the department of FL-13 and I Got It All Figured Out.
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ya can't even be a simple Freak.

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Basra

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 04:36 pm
learned brother OKKKKKK...i got it.
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marganalise

thats why i'm saying you cannot make analyticals based on comments from here and there.i'm not shading my skin.Thats rattle snake lol....i just shade opinions.YOU DONT KNOW MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

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Marginalise

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 07:34 pm
MR learner , i meant people can lose thier perspective
Hebel-i still think you are one of those guys in harlem that sell khat and addicted to narcotics. anyway you reminded of a kid that i saw in amsterdam-i laugh everytime i remember him -now i got somebody to remind of him. you are totally insecure person and lash agianst others to make yourself better.
by the way flight13 people have atleast some deceny , they are not like the ones i saw in dixon and ottawa projects
well basra- i was trying to see how much you could hold your temper before you resort to insults-
iam sorry if i in anyway insulted your intellengence please do accept my sincerest apology and you are right i don't know you.
MR Anonymous-have some respcet for the sister.
anyway iam out people .
iam excited tonite -i will be flying out of the states next few days . iam heading to Somalia for first time in 10 years - wish me luck including
you hebel-i hate to see bro like come back to somalia thinking he is better than others . remember that's what destroyed us in first place.
don't underestimate people.
well have fun people
Nabad Galyo

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Xaali

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 09:35 am
To the learner,are you familar with Al-Ghazali's theory of obliviousness (ghaflat)??

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Xoogsade

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 06:24 pm
Marginalise you are a marginal human being to be sure. Who gave you the permission to psychovandalise me like that? And you are a filthy dope fiend to boot. Allah give me strength..

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Margalinse

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 03:41 am
Xoogsade- i would love to have a little chit chat
with you but i don't wanna start a war that i can't finish- i will be gone soon -i will be in mogadisho sometime next time- so i might wage my wars from there,i think i heard they have service providers in mogadisho.

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MAD MAC

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 04:18 am
Marganlise
Where in Mog are you going? What are you going to do there? Good luck, don't get your brains handed to you or anything.

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Basra

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 05:55 am
marganalise

i hope you have a safe journey to mogadhishu.safaar salaama.

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Marginalise

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:22 am
Mad Mac iam going to Kaaraan the northern part where i feel it might be bit safe for me. iam going with an uncle of mine , well i miss MOG and i know it won't look the same now,that's
where i was born 25 years ago and it was beuitiful back than.iam just bit concerned i might run into truoble coz iam from the puntland region and i believe tribalism is still big thing in mog and else where.i hate tribalism and people who advocate for it.anyway iam gonna see our homes there and the condition there, i might relocate permanently if things improve with the new goverment, i and a bunch of young guys are trying to start some youth-oriented political movement ,our main concern would be laying the foundations of credibly eductional institutions.
we feel the need to mentally eqiuped our youth for tomorow. we definately will try but if it doesn't work,i might chose to come to the states and beg my boss to take me back lol.
Mahadsanid Basra Abaayadis

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Marti

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 09:13 am
Good luck Marginalise we atleast have guys man
enough to face somalia's problems i hope you achieve your goals i know they won't be easy

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Xoogsade

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 05:41 pm
I bet Marginalise is Cayr. Two Cayr guys on my soccer team have already bought their tickets to Xamar. I wonder why that is. I can't think of one good reason!!!!

Anyway Marginalise I am sure you will find plenty of weed in Xamar. I hear it is one of the cheapest things you can buy there. But you are going straight to hell I tell ya.


PS: I dont mean the hell in the afterlife(only allaahu yaclam that one) lol

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Xoogsade

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 05:42 pm
And please refrain from any further attempts to psychovandalise me...

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hebel

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:49 pm
Marginalis I still think yar a Jack ass.
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Now what yar gonna do about that?

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MAD MAC

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 09:49 pm
Marginalise
Karan's a pretty good neighborhood. Course I ain't been there in 7 years, things could have changed. Don't advertise your clan - I'm sure you know that. Don't advertise you just came from America - that smells of money. Keep your cash divided and well hidden. Arm yourself when you get there. Keep a low profile and don't do anyones daughter or sister. If you run into the son of Ali Ugas send my greetings.

Xoogsade,
The Cayr are from Mudug, not Puntland. Also, why would someone who's Cayr want to go to Karan??? He would go to Wardiglei or Hodan or Lamber Afr if he had the sense God gave him.

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Marginalise

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 05:51 am
I was hoping i don't have to spell out my clan mr xoogsade , but in case you are wondering iam majeertanian and my mom is ali gari(dhulbahante).
i don't believe tribalism but i do know who iam. the reason iam going to mogadisho part from seeing our property is that i and a whole bunch of my nieghborhood boys(ciyaal xaafad) are going back to start some org that are politically and youth oriented.so my bro i just wanna help my people.
iam sorry if you were offended my earlier remarks,
Hebel dhilo futu ku dirir ah oo mareykanka kasoo
nac nacleenaysa ma,ihi , why don't continue to be corparate slave and appluad the people who are willing and strong enough to go back to somalia and do something about it , don't be such a bitch my man,
Mad Mac i will be careful ,iam not someone who adversite his clan or his whereabouts,i have traveled quite extensively and came to the conclusion somalia is my place.
peace

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ME

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 06:02 am
Marginalise
I am genuinly in a state of :( .The Idea of my inaa adheer going to xamaar.May Allah protect you.

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Marginalise

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 10:19 am
ME, thankz for showing your concern but i hopefully will be alright. my MOM is in same state
i tried to cheer her up in every possible way but it didn't work. n Thankx for the prayer

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Xoogsade

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 03:04 pm
Margin: You are a brave man indeed, good luck. But get off those noxious substances and enter the mosque for goodness sake. Leave that stuff to Mad Mac and his "anything goes" people.

Mad Mac:

You finally got your chance to correct me huh and get yours back.But the thing is I don't know the first thing about Xamar and I will happily admit it. Since 1991 it has been about as relevant to me as Banjul, Bangui or Lusaka or Lome. In other words it is a foreign city. Whether Abgal or Guudcad or Gidir lives in Karan or Hodan scarcely interests me.

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hebel

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 06:23 pm
Are we angry yet?
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As long ya carry that name ya will a Jackass to me....
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And there ain't nothing ya can do to make me change my mind.
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Ya think ya can take the heat?
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Think again Freak.
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Don't start unnecessary wars ya might get shot at and die in painful death.
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Did U understand me Jackass.
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Good.
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Freak.

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Marginalise

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 07:34 pm
how can i reason with a mind that has an I.Q of ant. am i angry yet. let me hand it to you bitch -you think you annoy people but you ain't even good at that. a word of advise from the wise-you should consider a career change,clearly what ever you are doing now is driving you nuts.

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Luula

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 08:23 pm
BigO: brother i really loved ur sense of arguument n how u presented ur opinion without any personal attacks unlike others. However when I look at ur writing all I experience is a bliss..care to make friends with me. I would love that.. here is my email address..drop me aline if u don't mind..we can than exchange the view about morality n relativity..lol.
milleniumluul@collegeclub.com... feel free at any time.

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hebel

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 06:59 pm
Word of advice: Wear Diapers.
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And evaluate yar freaky-self while yar at it.
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I did Tap-Dance on yar last nerve, which makes me THE annoyer.
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Siilka Sac Kaa Leef Dhaa-Dhaankiiyoow.

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T-GIRL

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 06:44 pm
MARGINALISE

4getting some1 R we?.....Like MOI....

U never mentioned poor ol me..in yo list....Pour qui?? Tell me Am I not rude enough?....Am I not Bad enough or stupid enough?

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Rear-end

Monday, October 16, 2000 - 11:45 am
hebel-one word for you"freak"------------ugcdvgy

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