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wadani

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 10:52 am
guys i have seen soo many idiotic massages in this page. like one guy call MAHAMOOD said 5 minute silence for some dead ARABS(palestinians). and i said how about thos 100s of thousands of somalis who were murdered. and still every day another 30 inocent somalis die in somalia. for get about days to remember them, minutes to be silence ans pray for them, they don't even get mention. what are they? aren't they humen, or are they bunch of monkeys who no body cares about.
enough said.
i just wanna know what you guys think of it?

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Anonymous

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 10:55 am
wadani you are right.100 minutes silence for our somali people in somalia who died and got injured from the war.

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DJABOUTIAN_GUY

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 10:58 am
THIS SHOULD BE
A HEATED TOPIC!!!, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU WADDANI, I PREFERE RACE

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A pissed off Arab

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 11:32 am
Listen doods
We don't need a min or 5 of silence for
our Somalis bro Co's we feel the pain and live with the grief everyday.
Don't compare the uncomparable.

Wadani if you love your country why can't you love the people who lived with you and struggled with you like the somali Arabs minority of Somalia.
Or are you trying to say in order to be a Somali one must have somali blood??Strangely after few years in Europe or America you are granted a nationality and proud to call yourself British or American etc.
Don't put everyone in the same bag Arabs and somalis sharing a harmonious history.

The more I read about topics regarding arabs the more I get near a conclusion that somalis are maybe a lost tribe of Juda.
Arabs this arabs that •••• you all and no one I repeat no one tell the truth.
Why do you hate Arabs?? spare me the poor example that they are maniac, that they treat people like slave, tell me how you deal with the tribe you call "MIDGAN"? It's very simple to insulte but difficult to give a raison.

A pissed off Arab

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sista

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 12:09 pm
Salaam to all my Muslim brothers and sisters

To wadaani and Dj guy...ask yourselves what will your beloved somalia do for you at the day of judgement...what will the love you have for your country mean to you when you are brought face to face with your creator Allah and asked about your deeds...the answer is nothing.

Our fate and religion is the only thing that can save as from the fire of Hell.

You should be thankful to Allah for He is the One that made you into a Muslim and a Somali too be grateful and say alhumdhulilah.

In Islam there is no nationality...the "some dead Arabs" your taking about are your brothers and sisters...are you saying that you would favour Somali Christians against other Muslims ( the population of Somali christians is increasing)???

If all of you know all of this things and still favour your race our religion...i pray that you may find the right path and that Allah guides you towards it.

You all need to say astafurulah, and may God guide us all to the right path.

1luv
sista

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Dhakafaar

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 01:14 pm
Reer Soomaali sidee lagu noqdaa?


Waa laga dhashaa...

Xoogsade

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Pissed off Arab

Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 01:53 pm
Dhakafaar
You are another RAcist ignorant PIG
bastard

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wadani

Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 09:31 am
sista don't make me scare by mentioning HELLS and DEVILS, cuz i know what that is all about. and like i said, i do my dayly dose of pray....
but also i bleive if i die defending my "country" i will go Streight to HEAVEN.


TO: pissed off Arab
and the rest, ARAB LOVERS

you are accusing me of being RACIST. you're funny bro. have you seen what your people have done to the somalis. what was that 2000 somalians mix of women and children where deported from Arabia on 1998, those people didn't make to somalia alive, because of the boats you put. that was ANTIONALY MURDERD poor refugees.

you're saying we're the same religion, and same right. how come 10s of thousands of somalis who are cabable of working in your arab countries are not getting jobs, while you hire some KUFAR HINDUS from INDIA.
for get about the jobs, how about the abuse. calling everysomali you see (ABIID). your people are the wrose people in the world to live with, to get alone with.
compare your country to western world. we don't get abused, we get jobs, we get alteast some freedom if not all.
and what the western world have done for somalia.
they help all they can. last time i remember HELP from ARABS was when brought some dates (timir) lol
and some expired powder milk.


oh yeah, how SAUDI ARABIA, send about 12 million dollers to the victems of HORACANE DANY in South EASTERN USA. did they ever did that for any muslim country.

no.


does USA NEED HELP FROM SAUDI ARABIA? lol
why spent money to people who don't want it.


at last
"ARABS ARE DIRTY MODA FUCKERS"

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PISSED OFF ARAB

Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 10:45 am
You'r not answering my questions little
MotherFUCKER...Try again. AND BY THE WAY
Saoudis are not the only Arabs ignorant fool
and to be honest I hate them as much as I hate you.
There is nothing I can do if you don't know your history ... " Arabs done nothing for us" except "dates"... what an ungreatfull
son of a hoe.

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wadani

Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 12:59 pm
why the f.u.c.k am i gonna help some ugly ass arab moda fucka, while i myself running for my life.


and qabiil you mention "MIDGAN" they r my somali brothers, we've same blood. what eva happend to them is history, but don't try to get between us.

you're talking about war time son. everything happens on war time. and "to be somali you must have the same blood". so i don't see how u come to be somali.


for now:let me watch the TV and Enjoy some ARABS DIE

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PISSED OFF ARAB

Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 01:42 pm
What happened to "Midgan" is history
suit you sir.. Can't even face his own past.
YOU ARE NOT A MAN..
Who need a help from a low life like you??
You can't even help yourself.
I'm aware about how lucky Iam for not being
a somali.
VIVE LE MONDE ARABES
VIVE LE MONDE ARABES

We were KINGS, DOCTORS, PHILOSOPHE the list is long while you and your "white"friend
(who colonised and FCUK our people )lived in caves a repeat in capital in CAVES.
From me The ARAB MAN to you the cave man.

A very HAPPY ARAB

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Libaax

Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 05:26 pm
iam loughting at this HAIRY_ASS_ARAB.
your people are disgrace to muslims.
they are nothing but bunch of ignorant fat assholes, they don't know nothing about religion and respect.

be proud sucka, you're the once who suck american dicks.we kick their ass.

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SABAX

Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 05:37 pm
WELL WHAT CAN I SAY

TO WADANI......WORD 100%...I AGREE

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Anonymous

Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 06:06 pm
Have any of you ever thought about that,,,HISTORY?
700A.D. is when it started huh! Well if you knew your history you'd know that Abraham walked the Earth in 600 B.C. HowEver.....they say that Ismail(son of Abraham) started the new arab nation.Now was Abraham a Jew or a Hebrew (same people). Did'nt these people come out of Egypt. And before Egypt they came from Ethiopia. or (kush or even Nubia)Know the history.You'll love the what you find. Now in 330A.D-356A.D(somewhere in there)Alexender came into Egypt and TOOK the holy scriptures from Egypt went and translated them from Aramaic to Hebrew. later they gave the arabs the scriptures (that came from Egypt) and from which we have the Qur'an. (but when the arabs got the scriptures they were in aramaic,hebrew and now greek). HHMMMmmmm!!!! 300 & some yrs. later come islam 700A.D. Now at 1000 A.D. the (muslim)started to enslave the very people that gave them there way of life. (the Egyptians)Why was that? Slavery!! was the way to take blks out of isreal becuase the european did the same thing with blk america. Think abt it they got scriptures from a blk nation of people only to later come back and enslave them and murdered them. Not only that but now they have religion. HHHMMMMmmmmm!!!! One White and the other is arab. Now knowing that GOD only spoke to the hebrew generation that was from the heavens.(know your history) You'll know that he never spoke to mohammed he was a "gentile". God didnt speak to the gentile race. Remember god brought these hebrew people out of Egypt from which they came from Ethiopia. Can i ask you all a question? What do you believe in the truth or the tradition? I'm giving you truth.And no i'm not saying that jesus is God thats the other part of the Lie. The europeans enslaved the blk americans and the arabs enslaved the africans that did not get traded to the europeans in the slave trade. They thought them crist they thought you islam. It's not your true culture.Remember they got there holy books from blk people then enslaved us and made us submitt to the paganist lifestyles. I'll talk to anyone of you at anytime. Brothers and Sisters please atleast look up what i'm saying. Go to the book store by the history books and read everything that you can,,then come talk to me. I want to hear what you have to say.

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A&K

Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 04:53 am
Wadani,

Well Said.


Piss off Arab.

•••• off. No one Needs your talk. every Arab is piece of scum of the earth. I shatter to think they are so called Muslim.

Anon,

Piss off you moron. This not history. Go to the Toiled and wang yourself off. Motherfucker.

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The Arab who piss on YOU

Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 06:38 am
To Libaax
We are ignorant? realy...
We dressed your black ass then we opened your mind with the best religion ISLAM.
I don't even know why I'm wasting my time with fool like you.
SABAX
Nice to hear from you stupid HOE
remember me "OnlyMe" change your name fat
ugly COW.Why all this hatered?? let me guess
read this..dirty Hoe
During a routine physical, a doctor tells his patient to
drop his pants.

After the examination, the doctor says to the man, "You have
the filthiest balls I've ever seen!"

The guy goes home to his wife and says, "I want to talk to
you about something."

She replies, "Not now, I've been so busy lately that I
haven't had time to wipe my ass!"

He says, "That's what I want to talk to you about."
A&K ref to the joke you monkey ass

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Anonymous

Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 07:09 am
can u all piss off.

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A&K

Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 07:23 am
Fucking so called Arab.


•••• off you motherfucker. Go to •••• the hell out of your sisters and mother and your father, and while you are at it •••• yourself with every piece of junk you can find.

It is a fucking known fact that every Arab is fucking faggot.

I despise every Arab nations, keep talking to yourselves you fucking camel.

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Less Pissed off ARAB

Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 08:06 am
Here we go again Arabs are fagget...
Everywhere a go I see somali gay pride
they even have web side, that's a fact pussy head. Sorry what they do with their ass is
none of my business.
A&K I'll tell you why you despise ARABS.
You refuse to be considered as black and dislike to be associated with ARABS. Why?
Co's you are the rotten fruits of a mixeture
of race and don't know you is your father nor your origine, rude pple will call you
bastard sorry about that I hate word I prefer "iligitimate child".
From your tribal structur who call yourself
"Habar" something ( Guidir, Awal) why do you use the female gender?
Know who you are first.

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2NY

Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 10:18 am
These fucked up arabs are butt-packing,•••••••-stuffing sons of mongoloid whores.We all know thta the arabs are the weakest race of men in the entire earth,Israel has been winning wars and sodomising arab women and little boys,what can the arabs do?The only thing they can do is sit on their fat-asses and bitch.I for one support the right of Israel for self-determination and statehood and they should push all those camel-fucking sons of worthless whores to the mediterenean sea.The so-called arabs in somalia are not even arabs,they are an impure form of arabs having mixed with bantus(bajuni,barawa etc..).Arabs have a tradition of having sex with their own mothers,sisters and sodomising their brothers.How can you call these illegitimate-sons of incest civilized?Do ya'll remember the persian gulf war? Iraqi cowards were surrendering to cbs reporters!!!!Saddam had to ban them from wearing white underware in-case they use it as a flag to surrender.The most promiscuious women are known to be arabs who engage in all kinds of perverse sex bestiality,lesbianism(in their harems) and golden or brown showers(poop-eating).How can anyone compare these vile and dirty creatures to the mighty ,proud and perfect race known as the somali?I personally am willing to join the Israeli army(purely on a volunteer basis) just so I could have the oppurtunity of participating in the massacre of these worthless immitations of human-beings.This goes out to all you camel-fucking,hasshish smoking,incest-loving,homo-sexuals arabs(arabs wannabes) and all you arab-lovers,NEVER MESS WITH THE MIGHTY SOMALI FOR WE CAN ANNIHLATE YOU MENTALLY,PHYSICALLY OR ACADEMICALLY.2NY.respond if you must you useless sons of worthless whores.
This is not a sermon,just the facts.

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Me the Arab against youzz

Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 11:16 am
2NY
I know sometimes the truth is Ugly.
But that's your past,what you've expressed here is what we call"pre-natal fixation"
you wish you can return to your mother womb
this world is not your place when you have no Father when you are a bastard.
Understanding your love for the jews... very
simple you are both a Diaspora scatered in the four corner of the earth you are a virus
everywhere you go is a mess and became corropted. Do you think your abusive language is a challenge? think again
motherfucker.
Talking about sex, incest: it's clear to me that you never studied your pple.
Nurradin Farah your cousin will tell you more about the subject read his book "secrets". Perhaps you will learn more about yourself.
If you reply try to be logic and please don't display your ignorance

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Anonymous

Thursday, October 12, 2000 - 05:12 pm
Hello...... Well i see that there is still a little of confusion in the air. Listen,,,,,we should all know that life as we know it now started in Ethiopa. The oldest human bones where discoverd there. Black Man was the First Man. And we were'nt seperated by countries within a country. You know what i mean? I told you earlier that both the bible & the qur'an came from Egypt. O.K. Since the qur'ans scripture come from egyptians and the egyptians came from the Ethiopians which back then they where all known as Hebrews. The Tribes of Isreal. Know this that Isreal was all of Assyra. All of what you know now as Arab country was the land of isreal. Know remember this...The qur'an that i have is written by abdullah yusuf ali in it he says that from Ismail comes the new arab nation. Now Ismail is the son of Abraham which was he a Hebrew. A Hebrew is a Jew. Hebrew people (The Hebrew people of the bible are and so should the ones in the qur'an there talking about the same group of people)of the bible are Black. The bible tells you this and if the bible is wrong then so is the qur'an..would you agree? Well since they say that the new arab nation came from the son of a blk man would that not make arab people Simi. which the bible talks abouts. This is why the arab people talk so much bad about the bible. They say that it's incomplete well so is the qur'an ,,,,,,right? You see they know that the Europeans corrupted the scriptures. But did it stop them from making there own little book.No!!!!!! The True Hebrew GOD said not to trust the Gentiles.(look up that word if you dont know what it means)fore they will truely turn your hearts away from the one true GOD. What did slavery do. What was it's purpose. Africans r muslims and afro-americams r christians. A white and a arab God. Was'nt it whites and arabs that enslaved us,,,,,,,,,both physicaly and mentally.These people took the truth and rewrote it for there own sake. These people dont know who GOD is. The bible tells you the color of the hebrew people. The bible and the qur'an should tell the story of BLACK people (history where does are's starte,,,,,slavery) thats a lie it starts at the beginning of time. We were first then came them from the son of JA'PATH (GEN) brother of Shem the choosen seed of GOD The Hebrews. They,,,,,,, well need i ssaaayyyy gentile. There all sons of Naoh. A man whom walked with GOD. I'm not telling you things that i have made up. I've read the books you should read. i can prove what i say with ez.Know that we were here first and that they came from us. And about isreal...GOD gave that land away becuase he said that it was full of sin. It was no longer a holy city. (1 kings-2 kings) Read it.So my question to you is WHY THE HELL R THEY FIGHTING OVER IT....WAS"NT IT PROMISED TO THE TRUE HEBREWS. I dont know if you know this but isreal was named after Jacob. And that the 12 Sons or the 12 Tribes of isreal are the same. and they came from Ethiopa.Read you'll see. Today why is that the Ethiopian people are blk and isreal is'nt? (isreal is jacab,jacob is from the Bloodline that the bible and qur'an talk about)The slave trade!!!!! move us out put them in thats why we have a white jesus.(read numbers 12,1-16 bible) Then ask yourself if she was white why did GOD turn her white for the sin that she had done. Read that then talk to me. Talk to me. Tell me what you really think.Dont be affraid to know who u r. It took me sometime to understand to.Allah is there god, you GOD is greater u have to find him first. It's like me coping your book .o.k then rewrite it about me, then give may book to your great grandkids. Now is that right?

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Anonymous

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:05 am
to pissed of arab.

arabs are foggets...streight fags,,,,,even the sheikhs are fags...
lol
you're talking about this page that was made by some somali kid, who just mad at some other guys. or r u talking about some other somali gays, let me know what u talking about......

if this is the one then u stupid as moda fucking hell.

www.skyhighfamily.getto.net
and they erase the page now....


lol
he said he saw somali fags,,,,,arabs are fags bro. i foget the name of the movie, but you shoulda watch this movie, it's about white guy who is going to arabia for conistruction...u gonna love it.lol

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ARAB& Proud

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 10:27 am
This is getting better.
Anon & all the rest
why are you drifting the subject?? all your arguments are based on Arabs are fagget etc.
Can you thing of anything elese??
You are so obssesed with homosex.. Why?
Are you afraid of your fellings?

Anon don't tell me you never came across a somali Battiboy... they are everywhere
I say everywhere.

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wadani

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 11:16 am
i got another question for you, ARAB BOY or Should i say ARAB LOVER, whatever u r.

why are you guys such a cawerds?
why are you back stapers?
can't you stand and fight?

you guys are like little bitches, throuwing rocks and then running. why are you motha fuckas can't stand and fight like real men.

iam just amazed.

you guys blow up and kill innocent people. everyone of you is torririst, you wish you had nuclear and blow up AMERICA. lol,,,,
am happy to see ISREAL KICKING ASS really. even last night u guys blow up US NAVY SHIP, why, cuz u cawerds. you could never fight like real people, neva,

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Anonymous

Friday, October 13, 2000 - 05:13 pm
So y do u believe in there god? Look at how YOU say they are!!

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Anonymous

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 11:58 am
Arab Imposter,

You are so boring, it is well known facts what the Arabs are. They are very Weak people and does not know how to conduct their affairs.

They are very very disgusting human being, and when it comes to fighting wars, well what can say they are the embarrassment to their nations.

Also read this so called Egyptian writer Naguib Nahfouz (Children of Gebelaawi - Allah) it is
very very shocking.

These so called camels are full of ••••.

Good riddance.

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Anonymous

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 12:01 pm
can we have five minute of silence.Angel of stupidity has passed the room

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Hakima

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 01:43 pm
after reading all ur guys comments...i wonder who will win this race of insult. Is that all u can come up with calling each other faggets and sons of whores. Or u guys are so oppressed in reality & this is the only way to express ur uncapability
A true muslim is the one that doesn't hurt his brother by tongue, hand and sword. That is all the basics of our faith. No race on earth is superior to the other. We should be thinking of how to solve our problems rather than joining Israeli army to kick some arabs asses, right 2ny?

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Anonymous

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 09:37 pm
I love arabs and stand for them no matter what
happen cuz our prophet (c.s.w) from arab.
there's no reason to hate them and ask allah
forgivnes all of you aaamiiiiiin.

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Abu Jihad

Saturday, October 14, 2000 - 10:11 pm
I love the Arabs even more than you. Every time I see one, I am very happy because he speaks the same language as the prophet did. We are also arabs so we should be proud of ourselves not being Aids polluted and more advanced morally.

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Ali

Monday, October 16, 2000 - 02:49 am
Dear Bro & Sis.
To Waadany, Anon and the rest of you.
First of all I would like to apologize to
all the Somalis who came across my notes and felt insulted. I've realised that insulting each other was far from wise and defenitly
not a way to solve our differencies.
To Wadaany and Anon I made a mistake not because I engage an argument with you two but insulting the somali nation because of you. This is not an appeal to stop your
abusive language but an invitation to behave like adults and to try to overcome our hatered and for once feel the LOVE.

Ali alias Pissed off Arab

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Rear-end

Monday, October 16, 2000 - 06:52 am
pissed off Arab-Jewish and Arabs are both semitic origin-i don't see why i would wanna chose one over the other? i will join who ever i think would accomodate my immediate interests?the world is about looking out for interests--if that means taking out few thousand arabs,so be it.
n by the way if you wondering who we are? we are black berbers-a cushite--we will see the rebirth of our race--from the berbers in morocco , to nubain in sudan n da galla in ethopia n of-coarse
the mighty somali of the horn--Cushites will rise
again to claim egypt n ethopia n kick out da semitic ethopia and semitic arabs in the north--
one more thing-why do we joined the arab league-that was purely based on economic gains--and the necessity to find a close ally.
we couldn't depend on da negroid race to be that ecomically viable or supportive--the arabs were the best choice-that's why we joined ur league.
since we are only existing cushitic nation-beware revolution is in air to free our cushitic brothers
in the north.
peace

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Anonymous

Monday, October 16, 2000 - 03:36 pm
ARABIC IS NOT GODS LANG. ARABIC COME FROM ARAMAIC.WHICH IS THE LANG OF GOD. ABRAHAM AND ALL OF THE OTHER PROPHETS SPOKE ARAMAIC. YOU GUYS ARE LIKE THE CHRISTIANS WITH THE MAN BEFORE GOD THING. OH WELL,,,WHO CARES ABOUT TRUTH WHEN YOU HAVE TRADITION. AND FALSE GODS. MAY THE TRUE GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOULS. JAH

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Hakima

Monday, October 16, 2000 - 05:59 pm
hey u up there ..."who cares about truth when u have tradition" Do u understand what the hell u r saying???

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US MARINE

Monday, October 16, 2000 - 11:29 pm
ANONYMOYS!!!
WHAT THE HELL ARE U TALKING ABOUT. DO U HAVE PROBLEM WITH OUR BELIEVE, WE DONT BELIEVE IN ARABS, WE BELIEVE IN ALLAH, MOHAMED (SAW) IS ARAB BUT HE IS NOT ALLAH HE IS PROPHET , WE AINT LIKE CHRISTIANS. I READ THE TRASH U READ PLS LEAVE THIS PLACE THIS IS SOMALIAN FORUM AND U GET NOTHING TO DO HERE, GET THE HELL WITH UR JAH.
FOR THOSE SOMALIS WHO GET PROBLEMS WITH PALESTINIANS, BROTHERS SAY ISTAKH FIRULLAH.. THOSE ARE OUR DEAD BROTHERS , IT DON'T MATTER HOWEVWER U HATE ARABS. WHENEVER U HEAR THE DEATH ANOTHER MUSLIM U SHOULD SAY "ALAYARAHMA" BUT NOT MAKE FUN AND SAYING GO TO HELL. THAT REALLY MAKE HURT THE FEELING OF A LOT OF MUSLIMS. I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT DUA FOR KILLED MUSLIMS. IT DON'T COST US ANYTHING, JUST SAY GOD REST THEIR LIVES IN PARADISE.
I WILL TELL U A LITTLE STORY.
I AM IN THE US MILITARY. LAST FRIDAY WHEN I WENT TO OUR MASJID ON BASE, THEIR WERE TO BROTHERS WHO WERE THERE B4 ME. I STEPPED IN GAVE THEM THE ISLAMIC GREETING, THEY BARE RESPONDED. ONE OF THE BROTHER IS FROM AFGANISTAN AND THE OTHER ONE IS BLACK AMERICAN.I REALIZED THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG I LOOKED AT THEM THEY WERE CRAYING , I ASKED HIM WHAT HAPPEN. ONE OF THEM ASKED ME A QUESTION IF I WATCHED THE PRESIDENTAL DEBAITE A NIGHT AGO AND THE MASSCRA IN PALESTINE, I SAID YES. HE SAID BUSH AND AL GORE AGREED ON EACH OTHER THAT ISRAEL IS THERE FRIEND AND WILL DEFEND THEM ALL TIME, AND PALESTINIANS ARE BOMBED LAST NIGHT, CLINTON SENT CONDOLESENCE LETTER TO ISRAELIS SOLDIERS, AND KOFI ANAN IS VISITING LEBANON FOR THE RELEASE OF THE 3 ISRAEL'S SOLDIERS, NON OF THEM TALK ABOUT THE BOMB SHELLING OF ISRAELIAN ARMY TO THE STONE THROWING HELPLESS SIS AND BROTHERS.THE GUYS ARE OLD AND MARRIED GUYS. SO MANY BROTHERS CRAYING COME ALL ARE CONVERTS EXCEPT ME AND THE ONE FROM AFGANISTAN. TEARS STARTED RUNNING ON MY CHECKS, I WAS NOT CRAYING FOR PALESTINE BUT WHAT HAPPEN TO MY HURT, WHY AM I NOT FFEELING LIKE THEY FELT, THEY ARE JUST CONVERTS. I FELT JEALOUSY THAT THIS PEOPLE ARE SOFT HEARTED THAN I DO. SO I AM WONDERING THOSE OF US SAYING WE CAN NOT PRAY FOR OUR MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
SOME OF U CLAIMING ARABS DID NOT PRAYED FOR SOMALIS, IF U LISTEN TO SHEIKH ABDIRAHMAN SUDEIS, IN HIS TAHAJUD PRAY IN THE HOLY MASJID MEKKA. HE IS PRAYING FOR SOMALIS, ERITREA, KASHMIR AND BOSNIA. AND HIS RECENT ONE HE IS PRAYING FOR KASHMIR, KOSOVO , BOSNIA ,PALESTINE AND MASJIDUL AQSA. HE IS CRAYING AND HE MAKES ME CRAY EVERYTIME I LISTEN.
ABOUT ARABS MAYBE THE GOV'T ARE NOT TOO ISLAMIC WHICH THEY SHOULD BE BUT PUBLIC THEY ARE REALLY OUR MUSLIM BROTHERS. U SAID SAUDI KICKED SOMALIS OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY, WHO ACCEPTED MOST OF THOSE SOMALIS, SYRIA DID IT. THAT IS ANOTHER ARAB COUNTRY. YEMEN TREATED THE SOMALIS GOOD. WHEN SOME SOMALIS MUSLIM LEADER WENT TO SAUDIA AND TALK TO THE IMANS THERE, THEY READ AT FRIDAY PRAYERS IN THE HOLLY MASJID THAT SAUDIANS SHOULD HELP SOMALIA, AND THEY START COLLECTING MONEY. THEY GOV'T FOUND OUT AND TOLD THEM TO SEND THE MONEY TO U.N AND THEY WILL SEND TO SOMALIA, THEN THEY TAKE THEIR MONEY BACK WHICH I AGREE WITHTHEM COZ, THEY SAID THEY ARE SENDING THE MONEY TO THEIR BROTHERS NOT TO UN. WHY CAN CHRISTIAN MISSINARIES CAN TAKE RELIEF TO ANYWHERE NOT THOSE SAUDIANS?
SO BROTHERS WE ARE NOT ARABS BUT RELIGION COMES FIRST. IT REALLY HURTS AND I CAN'T BELIEVE ANY MUSLIM CAN GIVE THAT RESPONSE WHEN HE WAS ASKED TO TO AMKE DUA, PLS IT DONT TAKE MORE THAN A MINUTE LET USS MAKE DUA FOR ALL MUSLIM, THAT INCLUDES SOMALIANS.
IT LONG I APOLOGISE IT.

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Anonymous

Tuesday, October 17, 2000 - 06:52 am
Assalam alaikum dear brothers and sisters,

inshallaah i hope that you all read this message in the very best of your iman and health.
i can not believe some of the things that are being said in this discussion. first of all dear brothers and sisters fear Allah(swt)i'm pretty sure if you did you wouldn't say some of those things. first of all i would take religion over race any day, i would die for my religion but i wouldn't die for my race. i think some of the commons made about arab people were really out of order. i'm somalian at the end of the day but i have arabs in my family as well as other non-somlians. if i go back to my father's roots, my family started with arabs. you shouldn't really be proud and go around saying "i'm somali and i'm proud" because proud belongs to Allah(swt) alone. i'm sure that arabs have some bad point but so do somalians. we have to live with each other as muslim brothers and sisters and like the prophet(saw) said " love for your brother what you love for yourself"
if you think your not from arab background or ain't arab fair enough but that does not mean that you turn around and lie on your brother.
and for those somalias who think that they are pure africans, well the question is do africans think your one of them?
i mean i grow up in a area which was mainly black populated and believe me when i said i came from africa to them, they said your not african, just because i have lighter skin or i have a different hair texture or my features are different.
and another thing is that black boys back here in london are always beating up somalian boys and running of somalian girls.
remember that there are good and bad people where ever you are, no matter what the people of that country are. for those brothers that said that they hate arabs does that go to the scholars? because most of the great scholars amongst the muslims today and before are arabs.
like imaam ibn Baaz(ra), imaam ibn al-Uthaymeen and others.
but there are also other scholars who were not arabs like imaam Al-Albaanee.
and another thing that i would like to add is that did you know that back 100 years ago that somali was not written as it is written now. it was written the same as arabic but when the english came they changed it similar to english that's why english people can read somali so easily.
so inshallaah muslim brothers and sisters make dua for all the muslims around the world no matter where they come from or what their race is.
take care, inshallaah i'll get back to you all on this issue next time.
wasalam
sister fatimah.

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Hakima

Tuesday, October 17, 2000 - 08:11 am
Jazaak Allah for that sister fatimah.

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wadani

Tuesday, October 17, 2000 - 09:16 am
to: US MARINE

don't worry bro, those caword ARABS will blow u in peices on your next mission to the middle east.

to:anon. you're a centuries behind bro. i don't like ARABS Neigher do i Like IGNORANTS.


in this world, you gotta be **reasonable**, there are unasnwered question out there, so before you get too hyprictic with us, ask your self couple questions about your life and your soul.

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2NY

Tuesday, October 17, 2000 - 10:30 am
Arabs,arab-wannabes and arab-lovers,We do not need anything from the morally-bankrupt arab nations.We stand for the purity of the somali-nation,Somalia has so far resisted any attempts at arabization(except Islam).Egypt and the whole maghreb states(north-africa) have been completely arabized except the few remaining tuareg and berebers who like the somali stubbornly cling to their language.Syria and Iraq are arab in name only but not in race for they to succumbed to arabization.These people were conquered in war and were too weak to resist attempts to colonize them,while somalia has never been conquered by the arabs(Iam not talking about mogadishu and the other city-states because as Ibn-batuta said when he visited "this is an arab city",but upon the arrival of large war-like nomads from the north the city was forced to be a somali city)The spread of Islam in somalia was similar to its spread in Indonesia i.e through trade not subjugation as was the case among the syrians,iraq and north-africans.

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Ice-Man

Tuesday, October 17, 2000 - 01:33 pm
To:Wadani

The reason that Mohamoud posted was Palestine being killed because they are Muslims, and their adversaries are Zionist, Sure they deserve a prayer,

But Somali Issues Ethiopians or Kenyans are not killing us but Somalis are doing it to one another So who do U pray for or against

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wadani

Tuesday, October 17, 2000 - 01:57 pm
Ice-Man
bro u misunderstood me. what makes the stunking arab(plestine) so special. if you're saying they are muslims and they were killed by people another relgion. then there are thousands of muslims who die from the same situation. in europe and in somalia itself. for example how about the western-somalis who live their anncostry land, yet their are victomised everyday. only this weak ethiopian soldeirs kill more 20 people, do not inculede the unreported. they are raped looted and murdered.
what is that all about bro?....
isn't that humen right violation.
and most of the somalis they don't care because western-somalia is not their Tribe.
so you rather feel sorry for arabs that don't even know if you excist. and forget your own race and people who have the same blood with you.

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US marine

Tuesday, October 17, 2000 - 06:05 pm
wadani. i don't think ur serious about this, do u really hate arabs like that, i that religion first, i will pray for somalis and and arabs bosnians and any muslim who is in disconfort.
can u just forget about praying for anyone and go to hell. u really pissing people off.
do u ahve inferriority conflex about arabs. arabs are nothing but our muslim brothers. the whole muslim world is doing donation for palestine coz of the situation. a month ago 3 of my friends (1 black american , pakistamianian and morocian ) come to me and they were doing donation for the horn of Africa(somalia,jabuti,norther kenya, sudan eritrea and ogadenia). why are they doing that coz they are muslims. every friday we do collection to help the muslims in chechnia. they are not somalis but they are muslims. our country was in cival war for 10 yrs coz we have people who think like u. brother say istaqfurallah and say islam first 2nd and 3rd. i swear God nothing will work for u as long ur happy with the death of ur brothers.
wassalam aleikum

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Anonymous

Wednesday, October 18, 2000 - 06:20 pm
O.K. RELIGION OVER RACE THATS A VERY WISE DESICION. EASY TO MAKE BUT NOT,,TRUTH IS GREATER THEN TRADITION!!!! BEFORE THERE WERE ARABS THERE WERE BLKS. SINCE ADAM AND EVE AND ALL THE OTHERS THERE WAS RELIGION. SOLOMAN WAS NOT MUSLIM.NOR WAS ABRAHAM. HE WALKED THE EARTH 600 B.C. ISLAM DID'NT APPEAR UNTIL 700A.D. AFTER THEY STOLE EXCUSE ME MURDERED TO GET THEM. NOW WOULD,NT YOU GUYS BE FAKE MUSLIMS TO IF BLK AMERICAN ARE BECUASE THATS ANOTHER NATION GOD RIGHT. THERE BLK YOUR BLK (SAME NATION OF PPL. UNDER GOD) SO WHY IS IT THAT WHEN THE AFRICAN PPL WAR IT TAKE THE NEWS TEAM AND U.N. AND ANY OTHER TYPE OF AID TO GET THERE BEFORE 100 OF 1000'S OF BLK LIFE IS LOST. THEY,VE PLACED YOU (I SAY YOU BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW WHO YOU ARE YET) ON THE BOTTOM,WHEN WE STARTED ON TOP. WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT YOUR NOT LIKE THE CHRISTIAN, IN EVERY WAY YOU ARE. ALL OF YOUR HOLIDAYS, EVERY SALAT HAS MUHAMMEDS NAME IN IT.(SO DO THE CHRST)ACCEPT ISLAM HAS A FALSE PROPHET. JESUS WAS OF THE SON OF, BUT MUHAMMED WAS BORN OF A GENTILE. KNOW HISTORY AND YOU'LL KNOW THAT GOD DID'NT SPEAK TO THE GENTILE PPL. THEY WERE HIS ENEMY. AND YOU SHOULD NOW THAT THE EASTERN ROMAN EMPIRE WAS WHO CONTROLED SOMALIA JERU,ISREAL, EGYPT EVEN UNTIL THIS DAY. IT JUST HISTORY SOMETHING WE SHOULD ALL KNOW AND UNDERSTAND BEFORE YOU TALK DOWN ABOUT IT!!!!

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Anonymous

Wednesday, October 18, 2000 - 06:42 pm
What does religeon have to do with race? you idiots

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fatimah

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 06:57 am
assalam alaikum brothers and sisters,
inshallaah i hope that you all read this message in the best of your health and iman.
well religion has nothing to do with race but however that's the question asked by who ever started this whole thing.
wasalam
sister fatimah

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Your Sister in Islam

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 07:45 am
to US Marine-
Brother, your story touched me. Allah Bless you today and everyday.

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Sweetgirl

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 12:10 pm
Pissed off Arab, wadani and U.S marine

Bro, I'm one somali who does not hate arabs as a matter of fact I luv arabs, so please don't generalize. and Wadani the somalis are killing each other which is really pathetic if you ask me but the palestinians are being killed by jews while they defend their land and al-aqsa and I think that's patriotic and in accordance with the teachings of Islam, and in answer to your ridiculous question I say religion all the way.
US marine you're cool be that way

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US MARINE

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 02:46 am
sweretgirl thanx first, but i think i did not said i hate arabs, i said we are not arabs but they are our muslim brothers like pakistanians and the rest of the muslim world.
sister in islam.
thanx, that story brought tears from my eyes.
anonymious.
i can't really get you are u blk american who has inferriory complex, why are u talking about blk think and we pray to mohamed . how many times do i have to clear myself that muhamed is nothing but a prophet, if we pray to him he can do nothing for us, and there is no where in the salat we recite something called mohamed pls base ur case to some where.this mohamed2 in the converstion.
for real u miscoating alot of thinks in islam which is realy offending me. i told we are muslims and color has nothing to do with us. if usay the former prophet where not muslims pls go and read the bible and they will tell u there religion.

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wadani

Monday, October 23, 2000 - 02:56 pm
i had enough with you ARAB LOVERS

keep loving them, and pretend like they love you.

enough said by the true and the only left somalis in here.

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fatimah

Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 06:13 am
Assalam alaikum brothers and sisters,

inshallaah i hope that you read this message in the very best of your iman and health. I’m sure that you are all aware of the fact that inshallaah the holy month of Ramadan is coming up, a chance for us to worship Allaah (swt) and give up our wrong ways. As Muslim brothers and sisters we should spend every day as if it’s our last. Inshallaah I will try to put my knowledge to use so that it can help non-practising Muslims in this case Somalis. If anyone feels that they need to know anything inshallaah relating to Islam, feel free to ask me. At the moment I’m working on a website with some brothers from Kuwait so inshallaah I’ll give people the website address as soon as it is finish. In the mean time I’ll leave the address for a very beneficial website. It’s very authentic and got the go ahead from the best of the scholars. It contains everything from basics to higher depth of knowledge. As a Muslim sister I advice you all to check it out because there many Islamic websites that can misguide you. many Muslims today don’t look back to the Qur’aan and Sunnah of our beloved prophet(saw) or the might just use the qur’aan not knowing that the sunnah is also a revelation from Allah (swt). I advice you dear brothers and sisters to be careful from who you take your knowledge from when it comes to Islam. Know that people would quote an Ayat of Qur’aan, give their own understanding. Reject authentic Hadith not knowing the sight behind that Hadith. Will act and accept weak Hadith and because of a particular way that we’re following we say that this Hadith is Seheeh (meaning authentic). The reason why I give people this advice is that there would still or always be individuals amongst the community still rejecting and refuting without evidence. When you quote an Ayat of Qur’aan understand the meaning and tafseer of this Qur’aan from the people of knowledge. When you read a Hadith know it to be authentic from the people of Hadith not from yourself. Know that Islam is not what your father, friends or country says but islam is the Qur’aan and Sunnah. As Muslim brothers and sisters we should not be affected by the kufr society but be the ones that affect that society. Know that a person who grows up practising Islam from a young age will enter paradise. I really hope that you take this honest advice from me inshallaah. Remember that this day could be a witness for you or witness against you on the day of judgement. The address of the website is as follows:
www.salafipublications.com
inshallaah I surely hope that you enjoy looking though this website, it has many excellent features which you would benefit from. It also has other authentic websites linked to it.

Till next time take care, inshallaah.
Sister fatimah.
Wasalam.

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Msis

Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 08:43 am
FAtima

"Islam is not what your father, friends or country says but islam is the
Qur’aan and Sunnah."


How truthful is that sister, many of us don,t realise that Islam is not what your family or friends follow but islam....is what in the Quran and Sunahh.


Fatima.... May allah help you and others to spread Islam sis....that is one of my dreams to study Islam and teach..nonbelievers....since you mention Kuwait, do you have any information about Islam there sis? cuz I was thinkung going there in order to study Islam..

Jazakalaa khayran sis

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us marine

Monday, November 13, 2000 - 04:51 am
opps !! i did it again

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