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I did a little test with somalinet visiters. I posted the conv (reasons somaliland will fail)

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Anonymous

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 09:36 am
The reason I posted this was to see how much hate my brothers and sisters in North America, maybe even Europe feel towards each other. I do not hate anyone in Somaliland, as a matter of fact my mothers family is from the area now know as Somaliland, and my father is from Southern Somalia. I have always been every proud to be Somali; just Somali. And I think we all need to be that way. Insha Allah we will take the necessary steps to kill the hate and not each other.

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Anonymous

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 10:13 am
I love you my dearest brother and sister. Somalis do not hate each other. They do not know how to express their love.

As you said our mothers and fathers did not come from the same area or family but again we are all one family.

I love you again my brother, my sister, my cousin, my nice, my nephew, my uncle, my aunt, my in-laws and my country man and women.

Love which will never die forever will be here for you.

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Nazir

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 01:18 pm
Dear anonymous
I agree with u that there are money Somalis who hate one another so deeply that they can't hear their names. The reason being so-called politically based clan system. Although I'm a Somalilander, and my mom somali south, I've no bad feeling towords other Somalis. But, I'm sure some Souther Somali clans, including my mom's own , would hung me to death if they found the opportunity.

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Hakima

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 02:39 pm
Nazir...that is true. I m from both...n both of them just speak odd of each other. So, where that leaves me..i don't know. When i m with my family from my dad side...n hear anything against ppl of the south---->anger just boils in to me. And, when i hang out with my familys mum's side and speak ill of the north--->i become the devoted citizen of hargeisa...though i have never been there :-)

Somalis need to love each other for a change.

peace...

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Sweet-Sour

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 03:31 pm
Wow I cant believe this Somali ppl finally agree on something, and of all things they all agree that we Need love not War !

This makes me suspicious !!

What have you guys been smoking ????

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Ice-Man

Thursday, October 19, 2000 - 04:06 pm
Believe it or not my mother is Habar-yonis and I am from north Somalia Although I don't agree with so-called somaliland but politics and family are two different issue and I don't believe holding hands by the way.

Guys I know you all got different names but this is Hitler and I don't hide I will express my feeling toward somali politics.... I am feeling great I hope you won't Attack me like savages now....lol

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Anonymous

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 07:30 am
Look it was never written anywhere that Somali people can't agree on anything. It just take a couple of brave Somali people, man ,women, or child to speak up against this clan non-sense. We have had many years of brainwashing from our clan elders in Somalia and former dictators that made us believe that we should hate each other, and not love each other. But with the right approach to things of this nature we will be reeducated to love one an other. So the next time you hear someone talking bad about another Somali person, speak up and let it be known that your not down with that kind of bull$hit, and maybe you might change a couple of peoples view to this topic.

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common

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 09:33 am
I ain't down with this clan nonsense neither, hell it ain't brought me and other somali's nuthin but heartache.I never understood it, still have issues figureing out who the hell i am supposed to be <ducking from my dad backslapping me>

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Real Ice-Man

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 10:34 am
here we go Again.
Leave my name alone crocodile Waleed Ice-Man wanna be, I don't reveal my family name here on public bastard never never never use my Nick, YOu Heard Punk

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Mir

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 11:02 am
realice-man, easy to know who you are. Mareexaan

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Anonymous

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 11:28 am
My mother and father are from the same family clan. About half the way they depart. My father's branch of the family considers my mother's branch of the family their number one enemy or vise versa. Mind you, these are not that much distant from each other.

Then comes my dear aunty. Her children are from a, well, far away clan. They are my best cousins but my father's branch of the family wants me to disown them. Because you know!

Then …

You know now the whole store as Walaalkiin already told us.

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Anonymous

Friday, October 20, 2000 - 08:25 pm
My Somali people don't buy into that clan bull$hit, it will never lead you to anything other then meaningless hate. My father is Haber gider my mom is Ogdean, and my grandmother Issaq. With all those different tribes in my family, and so much hate for what one clan has done to the other. I choose to ignore it all and continue to love my Somali people no matter what clan. If I can see past it, I believe all of you can too, Insha Allah we will move past the hate. And try to develop our very potential, natural resource rich nation.

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Gacan

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 05:17 am
IIdoorland or Somaliland what is the difference?
these •••• heads think the North Somalia it their for the taking Nigger dream on.

what u are heats noting but heats....u Somali aspects of life its crap...u are full of Bolog's.
I just sick of u guys here in the Net talking about ...........land? Plze stop that. Sanaag will never be ruled by Idoor.

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Gacan

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 05:19 am
IIdoorland or Somaliland what is the difference?
these •••• heads think the North Somalia it their for the taking Nigger dream on.

what u are is heats noting but heats....u Somali aspects of life its crap...u are full of Bolog's.
I'm just sick of u guys here in the Net talking about ...........land? Plze stop that. Sanaag will never be ruled by Idoor.

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nawal

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 10:16 am
my mother is from somalia n my father from somaliland...my mothers family do not speak bad about my southern heritage but the southerns speak bad about my nothern hertiage...i'm proud of both my heritage n i think ppl should stop this somali-somaliland hatered...we are all muslims n there should be no division between us.

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Ice-Man

Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 12:33 pm
Somaliland ?Give me a break All I know is Somalia
Say North Somalia especially three cities

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Gacan

Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 06:39 am
To all the Isaaq


Give me five different reasons why should be part of Somaliland. I'm warsengaley

For example Economic, politic's , social issues. and other's

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Anonymous

Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 06:56 am
anoymous who was talkin about branches and aunties.Let me tell you that YOU CANNOT use the word branch to explain your filthy subtribe whatever it is.SAomalia should come together and hug each other.You can all take off your clothes and jump on the river and have fun.

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Anonymous

Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 07:25 am
anonymous are you writing this message to me, also know as anonymous.

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Hakima

Monday, October 23, 2000 - 09:18 am
"somaliland"------->like the "communist manifesto"
inapplicable in land of reality.

"puntland"---------> A.Yusuf needs awakening.


"mogadisho"--------> the biggest puzzle.


"somalia"----------> the raped virgin :-(


peace...

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XASAN

Monday, October 23, 2000 - 10:34 am
lol
it seems that we're all RELATIVES, so why can't we get alone....

my father is MAJEERTEEN and my mother is ISAAQ (ARAB). i grow up in HARGEISA, don't nothing about MAJEERTEEN i grow up with my "REER_ABTI". so simply i think we should get alone

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Anonymous

Monday, October 23, 2000 - 12:14 pm
af waa kanaa mee la ka aamee?

Yes sir. I am Somali and such lonely and represent myself if my cousin will let me be. My tears are mine. My blood belongs to my tol. My death belongs to my mother and this world I am lost in contradiction.

I am the "i" in the individual as no one cares about me except when they want something from me including my very life.

Waxaa ahay looma ooyaan.

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Gacan

Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 08:47 am
I talk that you Guy's can't give five difference reasons why we should NOT joint Somaliland
I give u five difference reason why we shouldn't these were done using a Cost & Benefit analysis and writes please responded positively No swearing ?

1. Issaq President for ever
2. Issaq Army or Police
3. Issaq dominated gove't and institutions
4. Issaq Law. and judiciaries court system
5. No economic benefit for us..e.g port capital city, commercial and development

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Anonymous

Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 11:39 am
wHAT IS WRONG WITH ISAAQ? SIR! I AM NOT ISAAQ KHALDAN BUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH ISAAQ PRESIDENT? WE HAD ONE DAAAAAAAAROOOOOD AND HAAAAAAWIYYYEEEEE!

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me

Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 01:26 pm
touche anonymous...

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The Gurdian

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 01:25 am
Good- we all agree on the idea that the "clan system" is our major problem
Solution-we need to go back to somalia and turn this system into a more desirable system that expresses:
"liberty"
"Fraternity"
"Equality"
These words were the ideas that inspired the Frech Revolution.

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Anonymous

Wednesday, October 25, 2000 - 12:18 pm
Clans are not completely bad, but we Somali people just take it too far. If you really think about the hole world works by clan bases, but know when to take it easy with that $hit.

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Ravn

Friday, October 27, 2000 - 10:07 am
I think before we can get to find any solution, the somalian people must anknowlege the clans, and stop blaming on eachother.But i belive thats a long way to go.Hopefully todays young ppl who are the future will change that.
History, can we change it or do we have to repet it?


GaCan: you asked why should we join Somaliland?
I guess cuz it's the only stabile "goverment" on the todays somali...and i guess thts why SOmaliland it selfs don wanna go on the idea to to became a one nation Somalia.Which maybe Puntland is into to become it owns littel contury.
Well am not into politics nor do i know much bout the politics in somalia.

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nugaal

Friday, October 27, 2000 - 10:53 am
waxaan jeclaan lahaa in aad dooda aydan ka bixin dhamaantiinba waxaan jeclaan lahaa in la iska
dhaafo waxaan waxba inooga soo kordhin iyo in aynu
ka hadalno wax aynu soo dhaafnay.aabahay baa south
ah or hooyday baa north waxba inoo tari mayso
marka hore waa in aynu caqiidada islaamka aanu
cuskanaa,waxaad ogtihiin in wadamo iyo dadyow aan isku dhaqan ahayni ay wada leeyihiin xiriiro gaar
ah iyo mid guudba.waxaaney wax ku keeneyn a common
ground.wax hala qabsado oo hore halooga maro meesha aynu marayno ayaa ah in laga doodo
soomaliland or soomaliya midna waxba looma soo
sido ee inaga ayey ku xidhan tahay sida aynu
u xalilli laheyn wadankeynii hooyo.waxaanu ka hadlaynaa dibadda laakiin waxaad ogaataan in
dad soomaliyeed oo ina la dhashay ay maanta ku nool yihiin silic iyo dar xumo.cidna uma maqna ceelna uma maqna.

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