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     | Tuesday, October 31, 2000 - 09:04 am From: For The Ladies Only....WHY ARE SUCCESFUL SOMALI WOMEN SCARING OFF THEIR MEN? #5
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| | Tuesday, October 31, 2000 - 12:31 pm I see the village has out grown from its original state. Good for you villagers! Xaali: We'll wait! Good to see ya! Alex: stimulation, it is! So your Redskins lost last night, huh? Ciyaaru waa galin dambe, huh? let's see! AB: I hear ya, brother/sister! Why don't you "make a change" - Michael Jackson- ? You can be sure that I and fellow villagers will throw our 2 cents in. Caafi: Your delivery system is like "Bahalki Sahmiyey" as Somalis will say - if you know what I mean! I "need" my share of the mother-in-laws gift - Odkac- or you might see some "changes" in your neighbourhood. This is a promise. Hey, Caafi have you read the new plan by the UN for helping the rebuilding of the motherland. Do you think this their way unvailing plans so they can raise huge some of money that large chunck of it will serve as the NGO's executive personal salary. This is Wabs, reporting LIVE from under the books and papers.
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| | Thursday, November 02, 2000 - 06:57 am WABS are you sure that you are under the books? Bring your head up, you see you were under the sheets brother. WABS hurry up and finish your studies your motherland needs you. Hopefully this time it will be MAXAAD TAQAAN and not AYAAD TAQAAN. Mullah Mullah do you see what big corporations are doing, they are breaking up themselves now. That one stop shopping they have promised is not working. Mullah trouble is on the way please put your money under the mattress. Lucent Fires the CEO, Coverd Communication fires the CEO. MCI is breaking up, AT&T is breaking up This is the best of all someone has stolen the source code for windows 2000 and other products. This is perfect way to hide someone’s incompetence. Next time that there is something wrong with Windows 2000 I will blame on the source code been stolen by the Russians. Now windows 2000 is like Linux Open source. Maybe now that windows 2000 is an open source, people will help Microsoft fixing the problems. AB I hope I stimulated you somewhat today. If not it’s time that you see a therapist. I recommend Xaali. Bye all.
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| | Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 08:33 am Alex, the search is over sxb, this one is for you,,, http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/africa/newsid_1011000/1011290.stm
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| | Wednesday, November 08, 2000 - 06:31 am PaPa Oh man the search is almost over. This is it. Thank you. This is the game plane. $10.00 buys me one, so If I spend $ 40.00 I will get four. I need to go back to seven eleven coffee from the starbuck coffee to save some money. No No wait a minute. I need to take one step at a time. First I will get one and work my way to number four. I don’t have to worry about somali women teaching her 911 since they don’t speak the same language, but how will I communicate with her. PaPa what should I do on communication help me brother. Papas I can get a teen age one. Man it’s dearm came true. PaPa I don’t know how to Thank you my beloved brother. WABS, Mullah, Caafi and Nasiir. I Love the Nigerian Super Eagles soccer team. And to all those Xusul Baruur who turned me down look at me now. Ladies I going for my Nigerian Muslim Sisters, stay away from my wife or I will blow your brains out, this time it’s a war. Man I don’t have to go to Marlo Furniture store I can go to the Salvation Army store. Man $ 10.00 for her. $ 1,000 for furniture. A plane ticket for her. PaPa one more time thank you.
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| | Thursday, November 09, 2000 - 07:26 am Alex, am glad I could help, dont worry about the communication part, the love language is universal, I do not forsee any system conflict. while you are at it you might want to take advantage of the 2 for 1 special. The local chief will even kick in the ticket for the second one.
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| | Thursday, November 09, 2000 - 08:07 am lol@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Papa and Alex. I can't beleive this!!!! Darn.............and I thought we had it bad in North America 
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| | Thursday, November 09, 2000 - 12:42 pm PaPa I don’t think I can take the advantage of two for one at this moment. I just moved to a Studio apartment so I could be closer to Washington DC since the Republicans are coming. Let me get off the subject for a moment PaPa. You know whenever a new administration comes to Washington, The people who work for the new administration have a hard time figuring out the Taxicab fares. which gives us an edge. Back to the subject PaPa how Am I going to manage two wives and a studio. Is there a possibility that the chief can give me a rain check for the second wife and I will be back for her in a few years. I don’t want him to hold one for me, I will just take a new young one from the inventory. I hope to see George Bush at the White House PaPa. Reason One: Nothing will be done the next four years anyway. Two: Jay Leno will have a field day the next four years. Three: George will always know that he did not win the popular vote and the electoral Vote. Four: Cheap NON TIP paying Democrats will be gone. Five: Texas SIZE spenders will be coming to town. PaPa one more time thank you brother. Note: PaPa I told the story a Nigerina Cab driver of mine, He promised that he will help me with the pick up lines. Good thinking Ha PaPa.
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| | Friday, November 10, 2000 - 08:20 am Alex what pick-up Line ? sxb the chances of landing one have never been higher, the market there is flooded, you might even land a cousin of Hakim Olaijuwon, this is your ticket my friend. Xaali, you see how bad it can get ! help we need a topic,, quick 
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| | Monday, November 13, 2000 - 08:50 am PaPA, My prayers have been finally been answered unless someone recalls it for hand count. Then I could be in for a long winter.
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| | Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 06:42 am On the lighter side HOW TO IMPRESS A WOMAN Compliment her, respect her, honor her, cuddle her, kiss her, love her, tease her, comfort her, protect her, hug her, hold her, spend money on her, dine her, buy things for her, listen to her, care for her, stand by her, support her, hold her, go to the ends of the Earth for her. HOW TO IMPRESS A MAN Show up naked. Bring food.
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| | Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 09:00 am and....be fit too
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| | Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 09:02 am No, that is not true. Let us take a vote on it. Alex
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| | Wednesday, November 15, 2000 - 10:52 pm Alex I see you are into Sinigali women huhh??? What is next??? Anyhow.... how is your hunt going??? X Show up naked???? and food??? ohhh come on.... Y I believe you have a case Back to Alex My friend there is this freak who is going by my nick! Damn it! and he is a SomaliWomen hater. So hmmm I need a new nick, I am so freaking ashamed of using this one... I never thought that I could hate it! I will drop the Mr... Just Cool will do.
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| | Thursday, November 16, 2000 - 07:57 am Mr Cool first of all I have stopped all SHUKANSI due to the Ramadan Month. It’s a holly month. I know it’s Ramadan yet, I just want to stop it. Second I have a solution for your Name. All you need to do is send an e-mail to Somalinet administrator and ask him or her to reserve the name MR Cool. He or she will replay with you with a password that you will need to type in the next time you use your name. Didn’t you see when you type your name, the next column is for password. I believe brother Aaxow pass his name password protected. This should resolve your identity problem. How is Ladan doing? Please tell her that I said hello. To X Please refrain from certain words. Thank you. Aaxow What is up brother where are you? I hear that you will be in Columbus OHIO for the Thanksgiving.
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| | Friday, November 17, 2000 - 08:56 am Salaamu calaykum waraxmatulaahi wa barakaatu! To all my Sisters and Brothers once again: iga gudooma salaan aad u qaali ah. I have missed you and it is refreshing to see that most of the villagers are around. Though I have deserted the place!!! Xaali, Alex, Caafi, Wabs and the rest I pray that you have all been having a good time. I just dropped by to say hello and wish you all RAMADIN KARIIM. I wish I had much to say but to be honest I don't. My life has changed alxamdulilaah. NO!!!! I am not tied down yet! But I am extremely busy with whatever people are busy with. Go figure!!! Ilahay bisha Ramadan mid qayr qabta ha inooga dhigo. Kuwii mar walba taqwo iyo cabsida Rabbi ku jirto. Dembigeena iyo kan waalidkeenaba Ilahay ha dhaafo. Aduunkana nolol wanaagsan oo Tawxiidka saldhig u yahay aakhirana Jannada. Aamin. Peace
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| | Friday, November 17, 2000 - 10:30 am Good afternoon To Cajabo salam to you too sister. To WABS: I officially withdraw the sale of life insurance to the members of the Somali Parliament. Members of the parliament have more dangerous job than a cab driver. Cajabo folks have run out of gas. Except me I run on nuclear energy. Cajabo are you about to tie down the knot soon; good for you I myself in that process. Take care people I know you are out there, have a great weekend.
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| | Saturday, November 18, 2000 - 03:03 am Cajabo welcome back X How come you like the "hold her" such that you have repeated it more than any other of how to impress a lady? You must be impressed by holding! Can i hold you?
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| | Saturday, November 18, 2000 - 07:33 am Asalaamu calaykum everyone, ALEX: thanks bro, for your encouragement earlier on. I really really appreciate it, especially as I just wrote a statistics exam BTW, at any other time, I would have wrote this posting with guns blazing ("2 for 1 special"  !!?) because of the conversation between PaPa and you. BUT I will refrain from making any pointed comments because it's almost Ramadan, AND because I had to start off by thanking you... but man oh man am I pissed off  AB: funny you felt the need to criticize the village when most of the people were away. I think you were feeling lonely and just wanted us to return, if only to fight with you. This is Deeqa, also reporting LIVE (maybe) from under the books and papers (and yes Alex I mean the books and papers, I haven't seen my bed in over two weeks!) Take care everyone and an early Ramadan mubaarak to all.
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| | Saturday, November 18, 2000 - 07:40 am Wow, I certainly wrote a colorful article up there... Anyways, I could resist passing this one on (X baa i hogaamisay): A woman was leaving a 7-11 with her morning coffee when she noticed a most unusual funeral procession approaching the nearby cemetery. A long black hearse was followed by a second long black hearse about 50 feet behind. Behind the second hearse was a solitary woman walking a pit bull dog on a leash. Behind her were 200 women walking single file. The woman couldn't stand the curiosity. She respectfully approached the woman walking the dog and said, "I am so sorry for your loss, and I know now is a bad time to disturb you, but I've never seen a funeral like this. Whose funeral is it?" The woman replied, "Well that first hearse is for my husband." "What happened to him?" The woman replied, "My dog attacked and killed him." She inquired further, "Well, who is in the second hearse?" The woman answered, "My mother-in-law. She was trying to help my husband when the dog turned on her." A poignant and thoughtful moment of silence passes between the two women. "Can I borrow the dog?" "Get in line."
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| | Saturday, November 18, 2000 - 10:58 am Deeqa go to back to your books. We dont our trainee doctors flirting around with cabie drivers and coming out half-baked.
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| | Saturday, November 18, 2000 - 02:51 pm Alex, bro I'm in mpls......be advice, stay away in mpls the rest of ur life........Maaaaaaaan this somalis r differ than those we know....I don't know were they from.... Bro, I will be home b4 thxsgiven, but I heared their is a party back home....
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| | Tuesday, November 21, 2000 - 06:45 am Good Morning to all the absentee members of the Village. Dear Deeqo I will treasure this moment for a long time. I’m sure you did well on the statistics exam. I have a question for you about statistics. On the rate that they are killing members of the Somali parliament how long before we put them on the endangered species? Just a thought Deeqa was not and have never flirted with me. This has been the only time on time on the village registrar that she has said a so good so nice words about me, and you had to mess is up for me. What have I done to you so badly? Brother If you want to make the move be my honorary guest. WAXAAD KA HESHID WAXBA HA IGA SIININ. Just an inside information for you. WAY SUURO BADANTAHAY. PaPa, Xoogsade, Aaxoow How about them Redskins. Brothers we needed badly last nights win. And I’m getting ready to buy my super bowl ticket. Aaxoow : My suite case is ready I’m ready to move to Minneapolis Brother and you are telling me to stay away from Heaven. Hell no. All the players in Virginia are telling me to move over there. Brother I’m going to move in right at CEDER TOWERS, hand out at the Somali mall. I’m sorry brother on this thing I’m not going to listen to you. Aaxow my sources in Virginia (IHOP) told me that you and Omar are in Ohio for the thanksgiving and we have Ahmed Ali Igal here, is that true? WABS, Mulah, Caafi and Naasir Where the hell are you guys. Naasir I know that you are getting ready a visit from Omar yare and Aaxoow. Go for it brother ask those digits don’t hold back you have nothing to fear but fear itself. WABS they should have moved the capitol to BAYDHOBO. No one listens to me. I would like to see the capitol moved to hargeysa. Bye for now. Bye my friend Just a thought
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| | Tuesday, November 21, 2000 - 01:57 pm Salaam! Alex NO! NO! NO! I am not tying the knot! Don't ask me why cuz I will say something that might alienate me to my bros for life! :-) And I agree with you! They should have delivered and kept Baydhabo as temporary capital. But then again who is ruling? Somali men that can't keep their promises! Ooooooooops! Sorry guys! Peace Cajabo
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| | Tuesday, November 21, 2000 - 05:14 pm Just a thought: Now how the heck am I supposed to construe that? Either I got a smart rap on the knuckles by my virtual big brother, or a cyberly green-eyed monster tried to bite my head off! But I appreciate the "trainee-doctor" bit...now someone else is going to accuse me of flirting with you... And if you really thought I could possibly want to "flirt" with Alex, read his reply. Honestly, can a more contradictory message ever be posted? He manages to insult and praise IN THE SAME SENTENCE!!! That's a pretty amazing feat for a mere cab driver. Alex, Hmmm. Good question. The only problem is statisticians all over the world have long ago decided to wash their hands of Somali politics and general going-ons. No statistical tool, hypothesis testing, z-values, graphs (linear or curve), or assumptions ever turn out right. It all started way back in about mid-1900s when most statisticians predicted Atlantis will rise from the ocean before Somalis choose the Latin script to write their language; as I remember it (lol), this prediction had a confidence interval of C=88% (which means there's a 12% probability that Somalis would go with the western way of writing and 88% that they'd go Arabic); as you can see that prediction didn't turn out too well. Then there was that business with the stability of the country--again most number-crunchers agreed Somalia had one of the best outlooks on the Dark Continent, in terms of peace and general well-being; that prediction also went the way of the circular file, obviously; Then in the early 1990s most American mathematicians firmly believed US soldiers would waltze into Somalia, "fix" it, and come back in time for Saturday night football (most US soldiers being male, and most mathematicians being of unknown gender). Obviously, those believes got a little shaken up with that dragging-dead-American-soldiers-around-dusty-streets business. But, not the least bit disconcerted, again there were predictions: The Civil War Cannot Possibly Last That Long. A decade later, there's no self-respecting statistician in sight willing to make predictions regarding anything Somali. If you do ask, you get this response: frothing at the mouth, senseless gibbering, statistical software used as projectiles aimed at your head, and a rather painful looking act: statistician promptly attempts to throw him/herself out of closest window. This can be particularly embarrasing if you're in the basement or first floor of a building, and rather shocking above second floor or on an airplane. HOWEVER, I have decided to try to answer the question, because I am not a certified statistician (which is generally synonymous with "lunatic" ). Here's the set-up: Question: How long before Somalia runs dangerously low of politicians? Given: rate of extinction of Somali politicians, say about 1/week (this may be too low) Need: number of Somali politicians? This can be easily estimated as being equal to the number of Somalis per se, about 7 million (which is sad really, in more ways than one). Therefore: 7 million Somali politicians x 1/week is equal to 7 million weeks. Answer: it will take roughly 134615 years to run out of Somali politicians, assuming there's no growth in the Somali population thru births, and no deaths un-related to political assasinations. I hope that confused and bewildered adequately for me to get a licence as a practicing statistician.
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| | Tuesday, November 21, 2000 - 11:34 pm deeqa that story, lol
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| | Wednesday, November 22, 2000 - 10:32 am Ramadhan Kareem, wish you all the best of health and may Allah accept your fast and answer your prayers ! Cajabo, you are like a fountain of Wisdom ! its always a pleasure to drink from it. And as far as the promises go you just have to bear with us, we tend to have selective memories, some promises we remember some we dont ! Alex, I just hope them Redskins dont Choke at the crucial moment. Looking forward to another Season of Vinsanity !! the guy is Half Human Half Amazing, Go Raptors. Thx God, we missed that Snow blizzard ! people in buffallo are still diggin their Cars out. I have a feeling delivery rooms are going to be packed nine months from now, there seems to be a correlation between babies and Snow storm !!
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| | Wednesday, November 22, 2000 - 12:53 pm jslSJHasASHasjkAKLHASKshAS;KsS ;K';jkla;.sdjlSKL;sl;aSJas •••• of u ppl
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| | Thursday, November 23, 2000 - 12:58 am Alex I will keep in mind that "WAY SUURO BADANTAHAY" LOL Deeqa are you in denial? No one can ever say that you are flirting with me but Alex I smell a rat! Look at the difference To alex (Flirting)you say, "I "really" "really" appreciate it" To me (not Flirting) "But I appreciate" See the difference LOL About the statistics and following your assumptions that all somalis are politicians then the rate is surely not 1per week but far more. Ask yourself how many somalis are killed everyweek? the number is in dozens, hundreds or thousands depending on their mood for blood. However if the rate of 1 per week of "Xildibans" continue then we have a simple 243 weeks remaining. But i would say astaaqfurullah cause only Allah knows when anyone will die. How would I expect that from a Statistician?
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| | Thursday, November 23, 2000 - 05:29 pm Just a Thought, You jerk. It's bad enough that Alex insulted me; it's unforgivable of you to comment on it, AND to talk about me as if I am an unruly domesticated animal being exchanged: Alex says "Way suuro badantahay", you reply "I will keep in mind that WAY SUURO BADANTAHAY"... You now have the singular honor of my unremitting "suuro", or, if I was a man, fury. As to the difference between "I really really appreciate it" and "But I appreciate": my thanks were commensurate with the apparent good-will of Alex and you respectively. Alex spontaneously wished me good luck, whereas you gave me a backhanded compliment in response to what you saw as "flirting". So, you not only took what I said out of context, but you also exhibited your Neanderthal mentality by taking the word of a fellow Neanderthal at face value ('Alex I will keep in mind that...') yet refusing to believe me ('Deeqa, are you in denial?') presumably because I am a woman. About the statistics...remember, I only took one statistics course so I am not exactly a certified statistician (thank God); but I did make the simplifying assumption that Somali politicians will only die thru assassination (after all, that's what Alex asked). Besides, one would expect the rate of death thru random acts of violence to be more than balanced by the vigorous birth rate of Somalis, unless birth control comes into general use (by which point one hopes Somalis would be sophisticated enough not to be offing each other as regularly). But as you said, Allahuaclam.
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| | Thursday, November 23, 2000 - 06:05 pm "unruly domesticated animal being exchanged: " Deeqa lol You go girl
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| | Thursday, November 23, 2000 - 06:14 pm Ok Deeqa I must say you are redanduntly detailed in informations -arguementative highway.I was exceedingly amused at your witty remarks and defence.It's really a joy to read your comments.Exceedingly! looooool
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| | Friday, November 24, 2000 - 09:19 am Salaams to all and Ramadaan Kariim Mubaarak!!! May Allah bless and forgive us all for our shortcomings. Aamiin. Cajaabo, warmest regards sis. It is good to see you. Papa, I have become like some of the brothers...with selective memory I never posted what I promised...still plan to do so. I have questions about the impact culture and values have on socio-economic development of a country. I am currently reading a book by Benjamin R. Barber: Jihad VS McWorld (How Globalism and Tribalism are reshaping the world) check it out if you haven't seen it yet. Deeqa, lol@@@@@@@@ you crack me up . That joke and the stats!!! and listen to Alex.....'way suuro badantahay'......doesn't that sound like a standard answer......one used by the brothers when they are at loss for words I wonder what the 'male version' of suuro is? Surely 'suuro' can't be femenine affilication only?? Take care y'all!
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| | Friday, November 24, 2000 - 10:42 am To Just a thought, You blew it brother. You see brother I was hoping that you would be the better guy and win her hart. I was building you up to be a nice guy and you chose to come down to the gutter with me. WHY? I was hoping that you would say she is s nice girl she is sweet, she is smart girl. I was hoping all of that and some more yet you chose to follow a lost in pace man. WHY? Inquiring minds want to know? You see if I were a jerk I would have stolen the moment and be a hero, but I would not do that. I will hope that you will redeem yourself. This is what you need to do now, go after Princes Guinevre to win Deeqa’s hart back. I’m doing all of this for you my brother knowing what you have said about me before. It’s good this is your first lovers corral ( SP). I think you can do it unless Caraweelo joins the war, then it’s the D-DAY you can kiss Paris good bye. PaPa how about them Redskins. How is Toronto? In Washington the Weatherman has told as to expect some snow this year. I’m exited about it. I just hope It snows after the RAMADAN. Xaali Men don’t have SURO. This is what girls call us. Kan wiil fiican waaye ( This is the kind of guy who takes them to the movies and shopping). KAS CIYAAL SUUQ WAAYE (This is the kind of guy who wants dividends for his investment) KAS BOORING WAYEY (This is the kind of guy who calls girls and takes about himself all the time). One more time Just a Thought you see in this posting I have not said a thing to Deeqa. I’m just going to leave her alone I know the drill. Never open a car’s radiator cap when the engine it’s hot, wait until the engine cools off.
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| | Friday, November 24, 2000 - 12:22 pm Alex May i remind you that i can read,also can i say,i refuse to be be considered "unruly domesticated animal being exchanged: " Thank youuuuuuuuuuuu . lol
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| | Saturday, November 25, 2000 - 05:13 am PRINCESS GUINEIEVRE AM SORRY IF THIS MAY SOUND RUDE SIS!! I SWEAR AM NOT LYING WHEN I SAY THIS: MY NEIGHBOR HAS A CAT CALLED princess GUINEIEVRE
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| | Saturday, November 25, 2000 - 07:14 am Deeqa you are complaining that I quoted you out of context, while on the other hand doing the same. How on earth can you interprate my assimilation of knowledge i.e "WAY SUURO BADANTAHAY" to be an exchange of unruly domesticated animal. And who gave the Idea that I consider you be as such? Is it one of those "Carawelo" type advisors? I think I should take back the "trainee doctor" compliment back because from your writings it is clear that you are aspiring to be a "feminist doctor". However if you are enraged by the comment "Deeqa Way suuro badantahay", well then I would follow what alex advices me to say about you i.e. "she is a nice girl, she is sweet, she is smart girl" May be then the "the engine 'will' cool off". As expected out of a statistican, you have stated fiddling with the numbers and using cosmetic make up? By the way dont meddle with the birth rate rate figures and remember that Carawelo increased the population of somalis by 1. Deeqa did you include that in to your statistics? Alex can you let Deeqa go back to her books now? It has never occured to my mind to be tangled in a romantic 'jungle' with Deeqa until this moment. But the other thought of a lady with knives on hands, to my opinion is the most un-romantic sight I can ever imigine of. "Pricess"? Hmmmmm? My sixth sense says there is something fishy here! Especially when Alex Whole-heartedly tries to lead me there.
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| | Saturday, November 25, 2000 - 04:29 pm Xaali: Oh no sis, there's no male version of suuro! Like gossip, suuro is an exclusively female affliction. Now, don't point out that men gossip, or sulk, that's beside the point. Facts shouldn't be getting in the way of "truth", which is that men are too noble and, uh, *manly* to sulk. What they do instead is well-documented in the literature on family violence and spousal abuse. I browsed thru "Jihad vs. McWorld" a while back when my brother was taking an economics course... I thought it was interesting, but not exactly ground-breaking. Mercutio: AM SORRY IF THIS MAY SOUND RUDE BRO!! I SWEAR I AM NOT LYING WHEN I SAY THIS: mercutio IS A CHARACTER IN "ROMEO AND JULIET" WHO DIES A POINTLESS AND VIOLENT DEATH. His last words are "a curse, a curse on both your brain cells". Alex: How typical. Whenever a guy gets a little puzzled or worried, he goes back to what he knows best: vehicles. Confused? Just throw out a car simile/metaphor and instantly your buddies understand. Oh yes, want to prove to a girl you don't consider her a "domesticated animal"? Just tell her she's an overheated car instead. That's sure to convince the girl you consider her a worthy human being in her own right. Ugh. And Just-a-thought, No! Not the dread "F" word!!! What the hell is a "feminist doctor" anyway? a politically-minded gynecologist? And may I point out that "feminist doctor" is one step up from "trainee doctor" (I apparently secured a licence to practice medicine), so the title wouldn't hurt in the least, other than scare off potential suitors, I presume. Which I wouldn't mind at all. So, you consider it "assimilation of knowledge" if Alex tells you something about a girl he essentially doesn't know from Adam. So I guess if I told you to go jump off a bloody cliff, you would "assimilate" this "knowledge"? And hopefully act on it? I never said I was a statistician, and I don't see how I can "fiddle with the birth rate figures" unless I hand out condoms to newly weds. And no I didn't know Caraweelo increased "the population of somalis by 1". Congrats to her if she did. And let's hope it was a girl, that way she could also have increased the average intelligence of the Somali population. Buddy, you're jumping the guy: you are not entangled with me, romantically or otherwise. You're merely providing an amusing diversion during a lull in exams and projects. And Alex can't "let me go back to my books" because he didn't release me from them to begin with. He probably wouldn't know a book from a roll of toilet paper anyway. Oh, the idea of a woman holding knives is not romantic? What if she's making you "ootkac"? Or "saambuus" for afur? Certainly that's romantic. After all, she's making you food, the primary function of women, at least according to "romantic" men.
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| | Sunday, November 26, 2000 - 04:43 am loooooool Funny Mercutio : You will be happy to know that i am not offended, lol cats are very cute pets. Just a thought : Just a thought,is Alex your advice consultant? Deeqa looooool Keep it up.I'll keep coming and read your infamous anecdotes you share.
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| | Sunday, November 26, 2000 - 06:51 am O.K DEEQA POINT TAKEN. THE REASON I CHOSE MERCUTIO AS A NICK WAS -- WELL THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO DISCUSS THAT CAUSE I WOULD BE GOING OFF THE TOPIC YOU GUYS HAVE IN HAND. I ALREADY DID THAT ONCE. C YA MATE ALAS ERE COMES ROMEO
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| | Sunday, November 26, 2000 - 06:58 am DEEQA MY GOD WHERE DO YOU FIND SUCH LITERTURE. ALEX MUST BE REGRETING HIS COMMENTS NOW!! IF THIS IS THE NEW GIRL POWER AM ALL FOR IT. YOU ARE A BIT INTIMIDATING BUT WITH LITERTURE LIKE THAT IN MY BOOKS YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH MURDER P.S TO THE NARROW MINDED MINORITY AM NOT TRYING TO HIT ON HER.
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| | Monday, November 27, 2000 - 03:42 am Ramadan Kariim to all!....man...it is going to be a looooong day! Istaqfurulahi! Deeqa; Sometimes I feel that you (and a select few) are the only sane lot in this forums! My goodness- some of the men just go on and on and on and on and on and on....and add nothing new to the discussion. Loved the tale of the pitbull! You are giving me some serious ideas! LOL! Xaali; Girlfriend- if suuro is for the women, the men are afflicted with "qab" That is when a man whose IQ and age combined barely reaches the average indoor temperature tries to convince you that he is an "intellectual" - belittling all good (translate: feminine).....yep! we have a few of those running around! anyway- keep the forums alive- at least until Iftaar!
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| | Monday, November 27, 2000 - 03:43 am Now how in hell did I do the "red face thing".....
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| | Monday, November 27, 2000 - 06:30 am Good Morning and Ramadan Karim. I think this is my second ramadan in the Village. By now my MUDUL has increases in Values. Just a Thought: Brother are you nuts. I can’t tell Deeqo to go back to the books. You should not have mentioned Caraweelo and Feminism in the same sentence. Do you know what happens when you write Caraweelo and feminism in the same sentence A pop up windows appears in her computer like the one that says “ You have mail”. You said that Deeqa has knives on her hands I would say more like MASHEDI, Knives in understatement. Speaking on the sixth sense anyone saw the new movie of Bruce wills is it good as the sixth sense? Nothing fishing about the princes your senses are giving you bad odor go for it brother. Look at the bright side at least she is not holding Knives. I think DEEQA may be O.J Simpson’s wife Nicole re incarnated with knives this time. Oh Boy You don’t want to be O. J Simpson. Go after the princes Go after the princes or you better get an armor body like Robo COP. Dear Deeqa How was the weekend? Deeqa I was explaining to my brother when to back down on a relationship. I was trying the best way I could explain to him. I did not mean in a negative way. I was trying to put a massage across the best possible way I could. To our princess I’m not his advisor, I’m just giving him what Xaali calls my two cents. I’m just giving him my experience with women. To MAA HEEE. I don’t regret my comments I was just explaining to a brother in a manly way about your comments on literature and books. People who don’t read books are not less then the once who read it’s just like they don’t like to read they wait for the movie. Dear Caraweelo Ramadan karim to you. I have something new to discuss. UUUUUMMMM UUUMMM I’m thinking. UUUMM UUUMMM. I’m still thinking. I feel like I’m one of the guys of the IBM commercial about e-business. This is how it goes. One guy says to the other one that they need a web site to sell more hay. The other guy replays “ We sold hay to every one in the county. The first guy says have you ever been outside the county Then the guy starts thinking and thinking and thinking until the first guys say well then he repays I’m still thinking. The moral of the story is I fell like I’m the guy who has never been outside the county who is still thinking. Xaali Keep the forums alive until SAXUUR.
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| | Monday, November 27, 2000 - 07:15 am Alex Why do you presume i'm available? Maybe i am a bride to be awaiting all the big wedding plans for summer,you must ask first,and you shall be answered.lol Carawello lol i dont know how you got the red face? Humorous slow reflex nevertheless.
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| | Monday, November 27, 2000 - 07:52 am Princess Guinenre I did not know that you are a bride to me. Let me congratulate to you first and I wish you a happy and wonderful marriage. I will inform my client of your wish. Just for a moment let me ask you what if my client puts on the table a better plan or sweetens the deal will your stockholders consider the offer. I hope I’m not offending you. You see reasontly I have watched on a tape the movie of the guy who offers his wife for a million Dollars to Robert Redford. I forgot the name of the movie. I remember DEMI MOORE and Robert Redford and the Cheers guy Woody. It must be the Ramadan thing. Anyway Princess I hope that you don’t take this in a wrong way. All I’m trying to do is present an honest case to you. What do you say? Now to all the other women who might read this, This question was for The Princess unless you are on her legal team keep your hands off the keyboard. ( Caraweelo and Deeqo shut down your PC).
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| | Monday, November 27, 2000 - 11:24 am TO ALEX YOU ARE FUNNY. HAVE A HAPPY RAMADAN.
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| | Monday, November 27, 2000 - 01:56 pm Asalaamu calaykum and Ramadan kariim to all my Muslim brother and sisters, Caraweelo: Welcome back sis. This place was an intellectual wasteland while you were gone. er, considering what happened the last time I thanked someone for a compliment, this might be unwise, BUT thank you anyway. lol. Speaking of male intelligence, isn't that an oxymoron? Princess Guinevere: thanks sis; should be QUEEN Guinevere (the Camelot Guinevere was in any case) MAA HEE: thank you bro (?). As you can see, Alex regretting what he says is like water flowing upwards...highly unlikely, but we would all like to see it. Alex: I won't touch any of what you said with a ten-foot pole--Ramadan has officially started. But I think the name of the movie was Improbable Proposal And I am mentally noting that you were "just explaining in a MANLY way..." Happy happy Ramadan everyone!
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| | Monday, November 27, 2000 - 02:06 pm MAA HEE: I love the "You're a bit intimidating but..." part; it makes me feel as if I am getting my point across. And your disclaimer ("AM NOT TRYING TO HIT ON HER" ) is hilarious but probably prudent, under the circumstances "
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| | Tuesday, November 28, 2000 - 03:13 am One day down.....29 to go! Interesting....Alex and "indecent Proposal"....brother its ramadan stop day dreaming. It is atonement time (with a capital A) Also, re: the other B. Willis movie- "unbreakable" rumor has it that it is an absolute bore. I was planning to see it last weekend and after reading the reviews decided to save my pennies. Wabs should be proud of me....remember his advice a while ago....where is the MWLP anyway? Deeqa and Xaali- did you ladies see "Dancers in the Dark"- incredible movie. Here is an idea- maybe we should earn a "good" deed per day- how about one hadith/ayat per day. An uplifting one- to make the soul happy....... Hey...I am trying to balance my scales ....any thing helps...Alex, you should support this... if nothing else- to "erase" the moronic statement re: knives....I will leave it at that.
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| | Tuesday, November 28, 2000 - 05:10 am Salaams all. Careweelo, I absolutely hated 'Dancer in the Dark' too dark, too sad, too much stretching our immagination.Definetly, not my cuppa of tea!!! Unbreakable,............mmmmmmmm, one would like it if they are cartoon fanatics. I almost asked for a refund of my money for this one Deeqa, granted the afore-mentioned book is not ground breaking, however, if you have noted even reviews of the plethora of books that cover issues of globalism, new world order and the backlash against Islam under the guise of multiculturalism; the threat to our fundamental values becomes so obvious. Do you know that in Mogadishu, tabloid style "newspapers" are so popular? Do you know that the average Somali family back home aspires for a tv anthena, video player rather than clean water? I could go on and on!! I don't mean to simplify the issue, but I wonder why does one value a cellular telephone over clean water for example?? Are the so called leaders aware the impact unbridled consumerism and subliminal messages have on our values?? Does any-one care? Look at the communications system they have in Mogadishu. Different groups own different telephone system, one is forced to have more that 2 to 3 telphone inorder to access differnt lines (monopolized by a group). This is boom economy for the world telecommunications industry as well as the Somali entrepeuners..... But what gets neglected???? the human/social sectors? why?? because we are truning into an individualistic materialistic society.....and it seems no-one is aware or acknowledging where we are headed! Alex ....how is ramadan....did u manage to secure iftaar somewhere
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| | Tuesday, November 28, 2000 - 08:58 am The Prophet sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam said: "Whosoever does not abandon falsehood in speech and action, then Allah the Mighty and Majestic has no need that he should leave his food and drink." Al-Bukhaaree Xaali, Hijad and Mcworld has been on my list for quite sometime but I never got around to it. You should check out "Monoculture of the Mind" by Vandana Shiva, and also Ali Shariyati. its true people seem to value these gadgets more than the basic stuff, Cell phones have become a status symbol back home. We live in a materialistic consumer oriented society whereby modernity has become Synonymous with civillisation. We consume resources without any regard as to how this may impact the environment. Religious hoildays have become shopping rituals ! People buy stuff not because of Need but just for the heck of it. Then they turn around a few days later and throw it away! Well there is no such place as "Away". We have reached our Sink and Source limits.
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| | Tuesday, November 28, 2000 - 09:25 am Good Afternoon Less then three hours until AFUR. Xaali we Somali people call it AFUR not Iftar or what ever you called. I’m Somali. Come on Xaali and PaPA we need people back home to have Televisions and cell phone so they will be better informed. Stop blaming people in mogadishu of wanting a Television and not a clean water. They do care about clean water, schools for the children and all the other stuff, which the failed government should have provided to, began with. They need a Television and Internet connection so they can monitor the politicians. If people worry every day about food and water when are they going to question the government? Pay attention to Russia and Cuba and other countries their people worry about food daily and that is what governments like people’s minds to be preoccupied with. We don’t need clean water and food. We need Television cell phone and Internet To prevent the government from steeling our money (Money for the clean water and food). You did not think Alex could engage in a meaningful conversation did you? Xaali this is my schedule for AFUR NOT IFTAR On weekdays the restaurants or the Mosque, on weekends FAMILADA AYAA LAGU QABANAA. Specially on Sundays FOOTBALL AND AFUR you could ask better thing. Ps: My redskins are in trouble. Help. Deeqa How are you dear. How is Ramadan treating you so far? For me it’s Ok I use to eat lunch at 2PM now all I have to do is wait extra 3 hours. I can do that without a problem. Just a thought: What is up. Just incase if you want to make a move on our princess just exaggerate on what you do. Exaggerate is not a good word to use, but you know what I mean. CUSBO IYP XAWAJI KU DAR. I have tried been honest it did not work. I have a question for the people who put small faces in their postings. Is there a face OO ADOO NAAG U ILJIBINAAYA?
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| | Tuesday, November 28, 2000 - 02:48 pm Alex lol The question was,Are you his advice consultant?Although you candidly denied the tittle,i can't help reminding you that,by any estimations you do perform duties of an advice consultant,however much you may dislike the tittle.Perhaps,i can be a little more creative and use another common terminology.Are you a matching patron officer to just a thought?Your insistance on declaring him a blessing match for me,makes me feel like,i dont have a say.I'm laughing at the thought and the effort nevertheless. The movie was Indecent proposal.Which coincidentally i feel the urge to use that tittle,in my benefit,not necessarily on the same order,just a little different with a touch of disposition.Your proposal are indecent.lol And......this room....why are all of you ...diverting from the topic?The reason,i tuned to this page was to read what people have to say about it.All i see is, a crush course for economics and consumer commerce,History and literature of peculiar kind.I'm left,having to seat at the passenger side and read .Contrary to my self,independent,leading, conversationalist.Does anyone know,which wedding margazine leads the market,today?
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| | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 07:06 am I may be over doing it just a tad! The theme for the day- Mercy- First, here are 3 Ayats from our Holy Quran- The Troops, Throngs 39:53 Say: "O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah. for Allah forgives all sins: for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. Iron (Arabic)57:28- O ye that believe! Fear Allah, and believe in His Messenger, and He will bestow on you a double portion of His Mercy: He will provide for you a Light by which ye shall walk (straight in your path), and He will forgive you (your past): for Allah is Oft- Forgiving, Most Merciful. Succour, Divine Support 110:3 Celebrate the praises of thy Lord, and pray for His Forgiveness: For He is Oft-Returning (in Grace and Mercy). And now for 2 Hadiths: Narrated Abu Huraira Allah's Apostle said, "When Allah completed the creation, He wrote in His Book which is with Him on His Throne, "My Mercy overpowers My Anger." Narrated Abu Huraira I heard Allah's Apostle saying, Allah divided Mercy into one-hundred parts and He kept its ninety-nine parts with Him and sent down its onepart on the earth, and because of that, its one single part, His creations are Merciful to each other, so that even the mare lifts up its hoofs away from its baby animal, lest it should trample on it." I am banking on ALLAH's MERCY! May ALLAH shower us with mercy- 24-7, 365 days of the year! So whatever ills we may commit, knowingly or unknowingly, ALLAH may forgive us. Isn't that WONDERFUL!
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| | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 07:10 am Princess; Re: the wedding magazine- depends on what exactly you need info on- if it is gowns etc- get "Bride"- If you need specific local info- ie. locations, bands - you don't need a magazine- Axoow can help with that! :-)
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| | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 07:48 am Caraweelo what is the theme for tomorrow – No Mercy? Tomorrow is No Mercy Thursday ( All you can Mercy, Mercy till you drop. Sorry I was just been …………….. Princes: Well Princes How do I say this. I’m not Match person elect yet due to ballots still been counted. Once I’m declared the official match making person for just a thought I will bring the Nation Ups !! Sorry you too together. I pledge to bridge the gap between you too. I will propose a decent wedding plan for you too that will make both of you to reach across the isle and walk hand in hand.
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| | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 08:04 am Careweelo, Masha'Allah! thanks for sharing. Papa, I will lookup the Monoculture book thanks. Princess Guinevre, people diverted from the topic eons ago...where have u been?.....go back and check thread #1 and see. I am sure there are no shortage of topics about man/women, relationship, love, wedding etc. The forums is full of that. But feel free to ask Alex and the rest for advice, just don't tell us what we can or cannot discuss aight! Alex, I see you are selective with language, I didn't see you having problem with the english language, why are you sensitive to the Arabic one?
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| | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 08:14 am I don't wanna stigmatize anyone out here, however what caught my attention was a lovely statement of "way suuro badan tahay." Was it an insult if a fellow male says to his counterpartner "waad suuro badan tahay?" Well not that I am aware of. That statement is blessing and many of our sisters should appreciate it. Its understandable that many of married sisters would see that statement as offence and I would urge brothers to balance their statements when they are dealing with married women.
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| | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 08:28 am On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) say: The first of people against whom judgment will be pronounced on the Day of Resurrection will be a man who died a martyr. He will be brought and Allah will make known to him His favours and he will recognize them. [ The Almighty] will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I fought for you until I died a martyr. He will say: You have lied - you did but fight that it might be said [of you]: He is courageous. And so it was said. Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is cast into Hell-fire. [Another] will be a man who has studied [religious]knowledge and has taught it and who used to recite the Quran. He will be brought and Allah will make known to him His favours and he will recognize them. [The Almighty] will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I studied [religious] knowledge and I taught it and I recited the Quran for Your sake. He will say: You have lied - you did but study [religious] knowledge that it might be said [of you]: He is learned. And you recited the Quran that it might be said [of you]: He is a reciter. And so it was said. Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is cast into Hell-fire. [Another] will be a man whom Allah had made rich and to whom He had given all kinds of wealth. He will be brought and Allah will make known to his His favours and he will recognize them. [The Almighty] will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I left no path [untrodden] in which You like money to be spent without spending in it for Your sake. He will say: You have lied - you did but do so that it might be said [of you]: He is open-handed. And so it was said. Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is cast into Hell-fire. It was related by Muslim (also by at-Tirmidhi and an-Nasa'i). Let us be careful of our intentions, for every deed that we do, its the intention that counts. May Allah Guide us all and protect us from Hell fire.
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| | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 08:56 am Carawelo lol Thank you.It was funny Alex finaly a blessing without a alterior catch.lol Xaali lol aight....i wasn't telling anyone what topic to talk,you dont have to proove you are tuff.You can take back your fist,i'm not willing to fight.
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| | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 09:37 am Anon- why focus on the negative- true! Punishment is for the hypocrites and may ALLAH protect us from HIS WRATH. But indeed, HE is KIND, MERCIFUL and OFT FORGIVING. HE tells us that if our sins were to reach the heavens and we repent, HE will cleanse us of them. In the description of HIS ATTRIBUTES you can see- HE is Al-Rahmaan (merciful), Al-Rahiim (compassionate), Al-Qaffar (the forgiver), Al-Qafur (the forgiving one), Al-Latif (the gentle one), Al-Halim (the forebearing), Al-Kariim (the generous one), Al-Waduud (the loving one), At-Tawwab (the grantor and acceptor of repentence), Al-Afuw (the pardoner), Ar-Ra'of (the most kind), Al-Mani (the preventor of harm), Al-Barr (the source of all goodness), Al-Waliyy (the protector) and above all HE is Al-Sabur (the patient one). Think of it this way, if someone does you wrong and that someone were to come to you and truly apologize, won't you forgive them? And the mercy in your heart is a an insignificant portion of the 1/100th of all the mercy that ALLAH has sent to this earth from the beginning of time to the end of time. All the mercy in this earth added up is 1/100th of ALLAH's mercy. HE is saving 99 of the 100- for the day of judgement. This should be a reason to rejoice! ALLAHU AKBAR!
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| | Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 05:46 am Carawelo, I think Negative is not the word to use in refrence to a hadith. The intention is not to depress but to warn us. we need constant reminders of death and Hell Fire ( may Allah save us from it). if we knew what awaits us we would cry more and laugh less. Its that fear of Allah and the last day that will help us mend our actions. (Sura 87:17-19) Nay (behold), ye prefer the life of this world; While the hereafter is better and more lasting. And this is in the Books of the earliest (Revelation), The Books of Ibrahim and Musa. May Allah forgive our Sins, the ones we commit openly and the ones we commit in secret. The sins we know and the ones we dont know.
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| | Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 08:38 am Good afternoon. Here is and interesting research. The other night I was watching DAN Rader of CBS news He talked about a research a scientist did about men and women brains. The scientist concluded that men only use their left side of the brain when they are listening to women. Which means they only pay attention half while women use both sides of their brain when they are listening and DAN RADER went on he say the scientist said that women need both sides of their brain to understand . Dan Rader concluded, “ I did not say that he said”. End of the report. Somalinet has printed this report but omitted the part that women need both sides of their brain to understand. I forgot to mention this yesterday due to brain leak .
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| | Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 10:40 am Alex How can you listen to Dan Rather? lool This experiment is mis-interpreted,It only shows how we have patience and our emotional E.Q's benefits.To use both side of the brain in order to listen,makes it easy to give 100% attention,making it make our abilities to solve problems more flexible.Do you know that Emotional (E. Q) would become an essential part of our lives in this new millenium?You dont have to have High Intelligent (I.Q) for job prosperity.And imagine who will benifit that? lol ..Difinitely not JOE.
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| | Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 11:29 am Asalaamu calaykum everyone, Thank you for the hadiths Caraweelo and anonymous; regardless of their tone, we need these reminders constantly. Alex: First of all, try to get your brain into a "higher dimension" for a change; read the hadith our Muslim brother/sister posted above... Second of all, Princess Guinevere is right: you--or Dan Rather--are taking the research results out of context or misinterpreting them. In fact the research scienctist was careful to say (as they often do) that it's difficult to interpret the results: either the women need more brain area to process the same information as men, or women pay more attention and analyze as they listen (because the right hemisphere is also active when women listen). The researcher also noted that women may be capable of listening to two conversations at once, unlike men. Which really comes as no surprise...men have long been known to have one-track minds.
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| | Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 12:06 pm HELLLLLLLLLOOO EVERYONE IN THIS PAGE!!! I AM SILENT READER OF YOUR POSTINGS! I HAVE A CONFESSION TO MAKE AND I HOPE YA ALL SUPPORT ME...MEN AND WOMEN!!! HERE IS THE CONFESSION: I HAVE A CRASH ON "PRINCESS GUINEVRE" !!! PRINCESS, I LIKE YOUR ARTICULATE POSTINGS AND I ASSUMED THERE IS AN ARTICULATE PERSONALITY AND BODY BEHIND THE NICK. CAN YOU GIVE ME A CHANCE TO SHOW U I AM A COMPLETE PACKAGE TOO? I AM WAITING FOR YOUR ANSWER. FOR THE REST OF YOU PEOPLE, I WANT HER. BYE SECRET ADMIRER OF PRINCESS GUINEVRE
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| | Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 07:45 pm Interesting......careweelo....thanks for Hadiths.....i can't recall the last time i heard anything that reminded the hereafter....damn i hate ny city...it is full of filth.....peace
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| | Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 11:34 pm Hello. What is going on here? Has a free for all been declared on men?....btw...if Deeqa is not married, her people better worry. I do not believe her 'man' exists on this planet.
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| | Friday, December 01, 2000 - 06:45 am Cool poison- what a name- So you don't think there is a man out there who can be Deeqa's partner? Why? because she is smart? articulate? Does she make you feel insecure? LOL! You may have just proved the title of the long forgotten discussion- how fearful men are of articulate intelligent women! Anon- My dear bro/sis, I did not mean to imply that Hadith's are negative- Istaqfurulah! See, for me when I think of Allah- I feel joy and happiness. Does this mean I am sure I am pure- or even worthy? No! Actually I am a sinner. But you see, I know hell is not our permenant abode- eventually I will enter Heaven- Eventually- I will be in the company of the pure- imagine a place so perfect where people are always kind and never say a bad word. Where ALLAH's GOODNESS is felt. To me that superceeds all else- Maybe shaytaan is getting to my senses- making me forget the "fear"- "taqwa"- What do you think? I remember there are many hadiths that discuss how the companions of the Prophet- who were blessed with heaven- were still fearful. I may be missing the whole point. Now Alex- Dear man- what are we to do with you????? First of all it has been known for a long time that women and men use different parts of their brians to process information. It has also been noted that women are more verbal and analytical. When we speak/think- we tie in both hemispheres- we analyze and converse with our emotions and thoughts. We are afterall more complete. As for men- they are visual but have problems with remembering details- why? because the hemispheres are not connected by much- that is why quantitative methodical thinking is their only claim to fame. They can move from point A to B- only if you lay it out clearly for them. Remember they are not good in asking for direction! LOL!
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| | Friday, December 01, 2000 - 07:39 am Dear Admirer, How can you have a crush on me?You dont even know me?I barely talked about myself.looooool "Brain Storm " Is the Discussion still on? The Gender Brain evaluations? I can say a few words which is completely practical.I dont have documentary back ups but i hope it appears logical,if you are an open minded reader. Generally,men and women all have the same structure of brain,only different in size for men.(Larger).But the dependant factor is : How well we control our side of the brain that process rationalism.Like when emotional,do you show it aggresively and physically,Or do you cry and calm down and see things clearer.I prefer the second one.Saved energy and collective rationale makes a whole 10 yards difference.
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| | Friday, December 01, 2000 - 07:55 am Deeqa, sis do all my respect to u, I hate to select some portion of ur dialogue, but when u said "women may capable of listening to 2 conversation at once, unlike men" u rite sis I was wondering why most of the women on the phone most of the time. Ramadaan Kariim
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| | Friday, December 01, 2000 - 08:14 am Asalamu Calekum . First of all Deeqa my brain is in it’s highest gear. To get higher Revolutions on the brain I will have to get a V8 or V12 like Dodge Vipper Brain. Second I did read the Hadit. Third you said women could listen two conversations simultaneously. Let me ask you this who flips the remote control more? Women or men! UUUUM I did not think so. What do you think men do on Sundays when they are watching a football game, flip between channels to watch different games. If a man trays to change a soap opera his wife or , KAB AYAA KU DHACEYSA. Princes Guuinevre: Do you know what men call a man who has emotions WIMP. I rather be called a DUMP then a wimp. The new millennium bad boy is the thing to be I have been told. I see that my friend just a thought has a competition. Just a thought will beat this guy in a landslide. Hand count will not be needed. Somali Yankee: I have the same feeling that you have, I hate my city two as soon as summer gets here I will move to Minnesota. There are more Mosques then here. Caraweelo how are you my sister. Almost a week of Ramadan is gone. And the weekend is here. You know I like the weekends it’s the time I experience the ramadan like back home with BAJIYE. Now to our discussion:. You asked what you should do with me? Give me more powerful brain like INTEL PANTIUM III with lots of RAM. I need lots of RAM so I will not forget the details. Details is what kills me with relationships. You said that women are noted of been more verbal and analytic I bet that is where all the XAN comes from. Cool Poison : Brother we are on the endangered species list. Where have you been? If a man doesn’t exist for DEEQA should we make one for her. This is my contribution to the blue print. 1) KOO BAARI AH Take care Alex
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| | Friday, December 01, 2000 - 08:16 am Carawelo, we all question our Iman at some point, there are times you are at the Mosque and when the Iman recites a certain Ayah some people will start to cry, and you wonder then question your Iman. The heart gets rusty and we have to remind ourselves constantly build that taqwa. Thats why its important to visit the Sick and also the Graves of loved ones. There is a lesson in that. Al-Ahzab (Sura 33:35) For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who fast (and deny themselves), for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah's praise, for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward. Hadith. Sahl bin Sa'd, may Allah be pleased with them, reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: In Paradise there is a gate which is called Al-Raiyan through which only the observers of Fast would enter on the Day of Resurrection. None else would enter along with them. It would be proclaimed: Where are the observers of Fast that they should be admitted into it¿ And when the last of them would enter, it would be closed and no one would enter it. May Allah Guide us all, forgive us and shower his Mercy on us.
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| | Friday, December 01, 2000 - 10:22 am Princess, I still want you though. My 6th sense is telling me you are cool. aren't you? Admirer
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| | Friday, December 01, 2000 - 12:41 pm Alex......hay i heard minesota...xawaaji iyo cusbada la...iska qataa....well i haven't been to any place concentrated with somalis for long time....ny has mosques but it is just not da place....the closest i came to muslims is riding pakistani cabs and African Americans whose version of Islam is way out of line....n i can't stand people from da mid-east ok.....what's da topic....are educated women intamidating.....well iam actually glad i found an educated sista....it is really interesting....it is nice to have somebody that yu can engage intellectually. peace
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| | Friday, December 01, 2000 - 01:52 pm SECRET ADMIRER OF PRINCESS GUINEVERE: Kudos to you brother. You have good taste. But I suggest that if you must do ONE thing to win our worthy sister's heart, that it be this: Look up the word "subtle" in the dictionary. Good luck! CoolPoison: LOL. Make that half a dozen LOL's. One question though: Your name, is it a brand of cigarettes marketed towards teens and under-age smokers? Axoow: It's perfectly fine brother. And you're absolutely right. They invented those three-way phone conversation stuff with that ability of women in mind! Alex: There go the car metaphors again. lol. Bro, there's a difference between flipping between channels on the idiot box, and actively listening to a conversation. That you compare them just proves my point: men just don't have what it takes in the interpersonal department. And personally, I prefer sports shows to soap operas (but don't really like either all that much). Caraweelo: Lol, thanks sis (for the quick save ). And your responses to Alex and our worthy brother Anonymous were lovely. Somali-Yankee: Good for you brother. I knew there were some of your kind SOMEWHERE in the world. Just didn't occur to me it'd be New York of all places. Oh well.
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| | Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 01:01 am Sister Caraweelo...not only does Deeqa make me insecure she also makes me (a man) feel hopelessly ordinary. But no worries, there are plenty of ordinary ladies around. Btw...if and when sister Deeqa eventually finds Mr Right, may that man be a pillar of strength.
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| | Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 03:26 am hej deeqo! well iam impressed the way you explain things to these your fellow somali men . I should say i am in love with you :-) and that is true ! you may say that we do not know each other ( it si true ) but love is blind to some extent . i do live somewhere in sweden . could you please tell little bit about your self. thanks ! if turn out to be a man we can be friends okej? good ! sorry that my english is too bad because i only speek swedish and little spanish ( a few words). and study at university here in sweden . if you have time to send e- mail to me here is mine: hussrim@hotmail.com. I have to go and break the fast . good bye deeqa!!
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| | Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 06:31 am Hmmm...is this a pick up joint? I read through all the messages hoping to get a glimpse of the different takes on the discussion, but...nada :-( Anyway, Ramadhan kareem all...may Allah makes us those that take benefit of it.
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| | Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 09:35 am Deeqa, can you talk to princess for me? by the way, i took your advise and i went check "subtle" in the dictionnary. It says "smooth,tender,loving,gentle". I am all that. Princessssssssssssss!!!!...where are youuuuuuuu? my crash is getting bigger?
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| | Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 05:51 am hej deeqa ! I have chosen you deeqa ( adaan ku doortay ) . come and help me against my sweet sorrow. alla hoognayeey ( a man should not say so) but i have nothing to loose so i say sit in case you feel sympathy for me . i can not even read my books now . bal in aad daruuraha i geeysid deeqoy! ooh my god ( Allah) . I am so profoundly in love with you , would like to be every word you read or write , every book you take and every pen you grasp so help me please deeqa( boogtu wey i danqatay) now i do speak real and correct somali simply because of you :-) I need you like you need cold water in the mid of hostile and hot dessert. deeqo jaceylku waa (deep )deeqa adaan ku dooni ha i diidin dumarna adaa ugu deeq badane. I have writen my e mail to you in the previous message. so please send me e -mail to me okej? you are so sweet like xalwo ama xalwad :-). bye bye you sweet like swedish girl
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| | Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 04:29 pm Side by Side They lie on the table side by side, The Holy Qur'an and the TV Guide. One is well worn and cherished with pride. No, Not the Qur'an, but the TV Guide. One is used daily to help folks decide. No, not the Qur'an, but the TV Guide. As the pages are turned, what shall they see? what does it matter, turn on the TV So they open the book in which they confide. No, not the Qur'an, but the TV Guide. The Word of Allah is seldom read. Maybe a verse before they fall into bed. Exhausted and sleepy and tired as can be. Not from reading the Qur'an, from watching TV So then back to the table side by side, Lie the Holy Qur'an and the TV Guide. No time for prayer, no time for the Word, The plan of Istiqama is seldom heard. But forgiveness of sin, so full and free, Is found in the Qur'an, not on TV Guide. In this blessed Month of Ramadhan if you read the Quran, you get ten Good deeds for Every letter you read.
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| | Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 06:36 pm anonymous - That is tragicly true.May Allah forgive us.
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| | Monday, December 04, 2000 - 06:22 am Good Morning and ramadan Karim. Deeqa just for the record I have read the posting from anonymous before Bashir. I do apologize for my analogy on cars. You see I don’t know the difference between paper toilet and paper in general, so please accept my apologies in the holy month of Ramadan. Now that I think I have commode you down, can you hook me up with TLG sine we are doing hookup. Do you know hook up is better then pick up. In hook up the package is pre packed, in pick up you have no idea what you are dealing with. Aaxoow HELP THE REDSKING IN TROUBLE. Brothers are we going to make to the wild card? The Washington Post says Norv Turner the cough will be fired today. Somali Yankee: Brother : I’m ready to move to Minnesota XAWAAJI IYO WAX KASTO AYAA MEESHA LAGA HELAYAA. Macalinka meesha waa isku dheceysaa ayaa la igu yiri. Soamlai yankee the new topic is HOOK UP. CoolPoison: Deeqa’s future man needs to have more then pillar of strength, he must be a headache free. Bye
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| | Monday, December 04, 2000 - 08:24 am ALEX DEEQA PRINCESS CARAWEELO XAALI: GUYS CAN WE DO LUNCH? I WISH YOU GUYS WERE MY NEIGHBOURS. THERE SHALL NEVER BE ANOTHER DULL DAY IN MY LIFE. I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE THE TOPIC OF THE DAY WHEN EVER WE MEET.
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| | Monday, December 04, 2000 - 09:33 am MAA HEE are you nuts? Do you know what it means to have Deeqa and caraweelo as a neighbor? It means 911 calls all the time, The neighborhood will be a domestic hell. The police department will have a special domestic pressing. That will be NYPD DOMESTIC . Having a cab in the neighborhood doesn’t help the values of the homes either. On the other hand living next to a princess is like living next to Disney Land, Happy land etc etc. I don’t know about xaali. I think she will be Ok but have a security camera pointed at her house you never know, you never know when member of the National Organization of women will show up. Bye Alex.
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| | Monday, December 04, 2000 - 10:15 am Alex- lol! re: the cab not the special unit...that I did not take well.....but its ramadan and I will remain at peace. Wait till idd! Edebleh- brother one word for you- remember what Deeqa adviced the "secret admirer"- maybe you should try that if you want our sister Deeqa. Maahee- it will be hard to get us all in one neighborhood- the plane cost alone would be horrendous! Ok the lesson for the day- ALLAH FORGIVES- All we have to do is ASK- I know sometimes people feel impure and start to move away from ALLAH. And the more they stay in their lifestyle- the more removed they feel. Until they reach a point that they can not even ask for forgiveness. That is Satan's goal. We can not allow that @#$% to win- So remember- We are ALLAH's creation and HE FORGIVES. Al-Baqara (The Cow)2:286 On no soul doth Allah Place a burden greater than it can bear. It gets every good that it earns, and it suffers every ill that it earns. (Pray) "Our Lord! Condemn us not if we forget or fall into error; our Lord! Lay not on us a burden Like that which Thou didst lay on those before us; Our Lord! Lay not on us a burden greater than we have strength to bear. Blot out our sins, and grant us forgiveness. Have mercy on us. Thou art our Protector; Help us against those who stand against faith." Hud (The Prophet Hud) 11:52 "And O my people! Ask forgiveness of your Lord, and turn to Him (in repentance): He will send you the skies pouring abundant rain, and add strength to your strength: so turn ye not back in sin!" Al-Imran (The Family of Imran)3:135 And those who, having done something to be ashamed of, or wronged their own souls, earnestly bring Allah to mind,and ask for forgiveness for their sins,- and who can forgive sins except Allah.- and are never obstinate in persisting knowingly in (the wrong) they have done.
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| | Monday, December 04, 2000 - 10:47 am I guese Edebleh will be a pillar of strength only if Deeqa puts down the knives and tones down the "suuro". LOL No offence Deeqa. Anonymous thanks thanks thanks for the guidance to the right path. May you have Allah's blessings. "You're merely providing an amusing diversion during a lull in exams and projects" Umm what a tactic. Deeqa sis, were the exams and the projects so tough? If you need any assistance do not hesistate to ask. I should provide you with a "mere" assistance rather than a "mere" amusement. "What if she's making you "ootkac"? Or "saambuus" for afur?" Deeqa in that case I would humbly say thank you and pray for her to have a happy life. But if a lady who does not even know how to do it, or has never stepped in the kitchen and behaves like a 'naughty boy' ready at anytime to draw a "mashedi" as Alex prefers to call it, when she see sees a man walk by, then, it is time for her to assimilate a few basic rules about life. Just let her know I am a peace loving citizen. "What they do instead is well-documented in the literature on family violence and spousal abuse." and "other than scare off potential suitors, I presume. Which I wouldn't mind at all." Deeqa why wont you mind potential suitors getting scared off? Please what documentation do you have in mind? I hope not one of those documents written by 'mashedi girls'. lol _____________________________________________
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| | Monday, December 04, 2000 - 11:02 am "Do you know that in Mogadishu, tabloid style "newspapers" are so popular? Do you know that the average Somali family back home aspires for a tv anthena, video player rather than clean water? I could go on and on!! I don't mean to simplify the issue, but I wonder why does one value a cellular telephone over clean water for example?? Are the so called leaders aware the impact unbridled consumerism and subliminal messages have on our values?? Does any-one care? Look at the communications system they have in Mogadishu. Different groups own different telephone system, one is forced to have more that 2 to 3 telphone inorder to access differnt lines (monopolized by a group). This is boom economy for the world telecommunications industry as well as the Somali entrepeuners..... But what gets neglected???? the human/social sectors? why?? because we are truning into an individualistic materialistic society.....and it seems no-one is aware or acknowledging where we are headed!" Xaali, I beg to differ on some points you mentioned above. Somalia has been faced with a great many calamities for a very long period now. And thanks to Allah people are trying their best to come out of it. A human being has only one life in this world. And they would mostly like to lead it in a way that makes them happy and have a sense of being. Be it through worship Allah or having a self satisfaction. So the choice between clean water and a TV or a tabloid style newspaper, is a choice a Somali would make instinctively for that which would make him happy or have self gratification. The same would equally apply if he is faced with either chewing Jaad or getting educated (even if he had the means, such as those living in the western world, or not) not forgetting that the choice of clean water has a hurdle on its own back home. On the other hand if you are saying that the Somali investment should be geared towards essential services such as provision of clean water, then I would say the market forces wouldn't allow it as the returns can not sustain such a project under the current situation. That is why that investor chooses to provide telecommunication service. 2 or 3 telephone companies can not be called a monopoly by any standards. In any case there are no barriers to entry in the telecommunication industry in Somalia apart from those which are obvious to all industries i.e. insecurity. However current news indicate that they are merging their communication which would make it easier for any one to communicate with a subscriber of another company but at a cost which I would imagine to be equally the same as subscribing to all of them as it used to be. On the other hand I tend to believe that the statement “Somalia has a BOOMING economy” is nothing more than political statement without any supporting tangible evidence. The proponents and opponents of this BOOMING idea have both a hidden political agenda and therefore do not deserve a comment. Xaali, I agree that we are not aware where are headed to as we don’t have the advantage of centrally controlled economies but Allah knows where we are heading to. I think it would be fair not to expect much out of others but rather look in to ourselves and ask what contribution have we made to the society? The few who have achieved to bring in telecommunication in to the country should not be admonished but rather be praise for their little contribution to the society which now makes it easier than before to communicate with one another.
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| | Monday, December 04, 2000 - 01:11 pm fact: somali men are more educated than somali women. and 100 yrs to come this trend is believed not to change. i really dont know where these so called sucessful ladies r. i have been to canada, virginia, maryland, washigton, california, london, sweden and almost anywhere i go i keep on meeting uneducated somali women. i wonder if those who write here call educated themselves or if its true. i wonder......hard to believe.....
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| | Monday, December 04, 2000 - 02:32 pm Salaama Caleykum Ramadan Karim All of you.
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| | Monday, December 04, 2000 - 06:35 pm Heloo Brothers & Sisters, I forgot that there was some post's i had to read........ Admirer lol ....I am cool,no question.Thats why i say you dont know me,You have to know me,Know how i drink my Coffee or whats my favorite food..Deeqa(Marriage Councelor) can yo u tell admirer...he does not know me? Alex .....How can you say something like that to my sisters and say something nice to me.It's not fair.Do you have tickets to Disney world? Mahee lol...I'LL Pick the Restaurant....You ..Promise? Ducaale Fact: More Somali girls are in college than boys. :More Somali Girls score Higher Standard tests score than boys. : More Somali Girls likely to graduate and receive degree than boys. Theory: somali men are more educated than somali women Analysis : Somali boys as common to general Male counterparts..to get bored and likely Not persue Higher Studies as a result of boredom with academics,and take a conventional route typically practised in the old days.Blue Coaler jobs! Predictions: Somali women joining the Mass Co- operate world of Financial and professional elevation.Building a Bridge to a new Somali Revolution of Civilisation. looool Ducaale Do you know at my compass, we are 17 somali sisters currently studying.And you will not believe the major some of us study.Yes.....there are Somali brothers...only 6..Now you know...You haven't visited every parts of the world.
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| | Monday, December 04, 2000 - 06:38 pm Alex: Thanks for explaining the difference btn hook up and pick up. I actually thought you have a better chance of expecting what you get in pick up because you atleast have the visual liberty of choosing your package. On the other hand, in hook up, like in fishing(only this time another party is doing for you the hooking), you have no idea what you are gonna end up with. If anything, the latter is worse because the other party might over estimate or underestimate your preferences. Again I could be wrong :-) Just a thought: this is the age of technological advances. Clean drinking water is needed everywhere and people are working on it. Let them have the cell phones. It is one sure way to reach the kin in diaspora. BTW, I kinda got drained by a terrible exam today, I will give u a more "intellectual" post later. P.S Alex: Let me know when you want my wali's number. The prerequisites are not that bad though a few must haves are in place :-) Salaam.
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| | Monday, December 04, 2000 - 08:31 pm princess where is that university. tell us the name and we will visit its website and see the university directory to confirm what you r saying is true.....17 girls in one university? come on, be more logic.
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| | Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 02:02 am MY GOD YOU PEOPLE HAVE TIME TO DO ESSAYS! DEEQA SIS, KEEP MAKING THEM SWEAT (NOT THAT WAY YOU SICKOS)!!
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| | Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 02:11 am CURIOUS, WHAT'S SO HARD TO BELIEVE? PRINCESS YOU'RE RIGHT. GIRLS OUTDO BOYS IN GCSEs, A LEVELS AND UNI TOO. THERE WERE 20 GIRLS AND 3 BOYS IN MY A LEVEL CLASS. THERE ARE 1500 STUDENTS AT MY UNI, 8 SOMALIS, 6 GIRLS AND 2 BOYS, NOTHING UNUSUAL.
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| | Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 05:36 am Ducaale- Walaal- So you have travelled the world and are yet to find "educated women" abound? hmmm! Now let us examine this. During your visits- where did you spend you time? Visiting family/friend's homes, I presume. Hmmm. At these homes, you were surrounded by women-and men- mostly older- political asylees, misplaced by the war- who do not speak the language of their resident country- hmmm. And you draw you conclusion based on these "travels"? Did you visit campuses? did you meet with the young girls, who spend their time at schools- as opposed to entertaining visiting "dignitaries" such as yourself? hmmm...... Walaal, it really doesn't matter where you travel or how many place you have visited- If you "visit" among the uneducated you will always meet the "uneducated" So please- do all women a favor- refrain from passing ridiculous, unsubstantiated judgements. Besides, what is the level of your education- pray tell...you might be suprised to learn that a high school diploma does not an education make! Sumaya- Sister! Welcome back. Allah yakrimak! Ramadan Mubarak to you too! All others- do you hear that they have withdrawn certain medications with antihistimines/decongestants from the pharmacy shelves- something about strokes- dear me- now what will sinus sufferers like me use? I live on that stuff... Alex- maybe we can start a underground interstate pill pushing venture.... Axoow- what have you planned for Idd? We need a serious party....Omar yare has to come out of hiding...... Xaali- good insight into the priority list in somalia- let me add something- how could individual somalis make the investment in providing for "clean water" and other services. Clean water, education, medical care are services typically provided by a public sector- generally since there are no profits associated with them, most private sector institutions tend to shy away. In Somalia, there is no incentive to invest in the longterm public services. In the "New Somalia" where entrepenuers lead all efforts, the Dollar is mighty and its aquisition the goal. SALSA- chill! we love writing essays-
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| | Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 07:44 am PRINCESS !! (between you and Me)  If you cant even Spell Campus.. chances are -- you dont even know what it looks like.
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| | Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 08:02 am Good Morning fellow Somalis Sumeya Ramadaan kariim sister. Just a thought: You want to tutor Deeqa is that how I read? I think I know where you are getting at. Just advices hide the chine there may be a war. I don’t think sister Deeqa will go for that, she is way too advanced for that. I can’t believe you even thought of that. Then again “ DAD IYO DUUR WAXWALBA KA FILO AYAA LA YIRI. Ducaale: War ducaale ma ila aragtay. Waxaan kalo arkey halkakan Virginia afar hablood oo Social science iyo psychology soo bartay oo shahadada nagu wareershay. Kuwa Nursinka soo bartaaba dhaama. Markey guursadaana waa kuwa guriga fadhiista sida gambar fadhiya. This should fire up some of the ladies. This will keep the fire burning till the weeknd. Princes Guinevre: You are a princes and princes should be admired and not criticized. You will not need a ticket for Disney World, the place will be reserved for you on your visit day. Carweelo I have gone straight on contrabands. Take soup for colds and stuff. It’s too early to think of CIID Caraweelo. Is ramadan getting to you? I know you have the problem of thinking of food, while I have the problem of thinking of bad things. We can do it caraweelo hang in there. TLC : Last but not the least definitely the most. Here is my e-mail alex_caby@hotmail.com let us hook up. Sister the last time I tried to pick up, it turned out to be an undercover pickup that turned into a lockup.
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| | Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 01:01 pm ALEX I HAVE SEEN YOUR EMAIL BEFORE.ARE YOU THE GUY WHO WAS BEGGING TO HOOK UP WITH THE SINGLE MOTHER?BOY ARE YOU GOING THROUGH HARD TIME.
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| | Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 02:37 pm Carawello: You go girl! I must say that "entertaining visiting dignitaries" thing was hellarious... I'm still laughing...lol I'm liking this place. Ducaale: Was the purpose of your trips around the world to find an educated partner? If so, it would have been wiser to take a trip to the local libraries. You might have saved yourself a few bucks and lots of disapointments. Alex: shame. you couldn't even get my name right! Also, could you translate what you wrote to ducaale above? ummm...Before everyone starts throwing smoke bombs, i'm one those that grew up with "chareerta" so my Somali is kinda rusty. Anonymous the last: loool...was that comment meant to discourage me? Come on...give me some credit, would you?
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| | Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 02:42 pm Alex lol ....Her Grace is Pleased. More Curious.........Curiousity killed the cat..ever heard of that saying?....lol..Just because i spelt the word 'Campus' incorrect doesn't mean you have to assume i am not telling the truth....And.....MAJOR....And....How in the world of common sense are you going to determine or....'CONFIRM'.whether the number of 17 somali sisters are infact studying at our "Campus'!.....by....getting the website to ...'Quota sign language'....CONFIRM???What is wrong with some of the somalis in the Forums? If it will make you happy..here is the address.......{http://www.dsc.edu...and,http://www.dsc.edu...and} its Delaware state University.USA OK!.....Now dont talk to me anymore please......Bye....! Carawello lollol....A Question.Are you from London? OLd London?...lol...I'm saying this because i noticed you said the word...."Pray Tell me "....It craaaaaaaacked me up.That word is so often used in Old English style speech.I use it in the Campus Theatre plays. BBBBBYYYYYYEEEEEEEE!
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| | Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 02:45 pm Just use www.dsc.edu lol i couldn't access it somehow ..
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| | Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 07:05 pm You people are giving us the run arounds, now has anyone attempted to stay on topic and answer the caption. I thought it was wise to click on this forums, but so far I wasn't able to decipher much, except that some fellow presumably named Alex has won the lottery and it all went down hill from there, and then I was caught up in messages sent back and forth by a circle of males, where the females fit into this is beyond me.
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| | Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 08:26 pm somali females in US are not educated. its fact that noone can deny. on the other hand, Carwello if u dont remember beeing asylee in US remember your parents were asylees...shaking front of that immigration officer begging to let them in along with you. come on, dont tell me few courses u took in university made u forget that moment. remember most successfull somalis in america are asylees or refugees. by the way everyone is america is somehow related to asylee or refugee....only the timings were different.
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| | Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 08:02 am Anonymous: Yes I’m going though difficult times, as a matter fact I have been going though hard times. Can you help? TLG: I wanted to call you Tender loving care. The things I wrote for ducale where don’t worry dear I will explain it to you some other time. Just chill, Don’t worry be happy. Princes: You Royal, you are very welcome. SurReal: We are not giving you the run around, we ourselves are running around like chicken. Some of the members of the village have gone to do important things. Some of us are goofing of on company time. I’m here because is the only thing I have left now that the lottery thicket is long gone; so we are not giving you IL GIRO GIRO TONDO . I forgot some of the people are students and studding hard (preparing their cheat sheets). You said, “where the females fit into this is beyond me” I would say it’s beyond all of us. They are radical incomprehensive, unreasonable, unrealistic etc etc etc. Caraweelo : Just curius has some important point. I remember been illegal alien at one time. I’m not successful but at one point I was asylum seeker. I did not forget it, unlike you few semester at the university made you forgot a lot. Dear eat lots of fish it’s good for remembering things. Ramadan Kariim.
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| | Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 09:18 am Nic discussion, intertianment HHHHMMMMM BUT What is the answer to the above question? I am really intrested to know. Ps I will call myself a visitor since there is s.o else who has alreay have the same name here i.e Arawelo
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| | Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 07:31 am Princess- I used to live in England- long ago- but mind you, not during the rennasaince- lol! I find "old english" handy at the height of sarcasm....lost on most. So you are a drama-buff? and I see you are at Univ of Delaware- interesting What is your major? Just curious- I fail to understand the point you are trying to make. Did you understand what I meant by my reference to refugees? I think not. (That is for you Princess :-)) So dear "just curious"- Neither I nor my parents stood in line as asylees! But this is not about my personal history neither is it about immigrants- the original posting was about something else.... and I don't feel like repeating myself. Visitor- aka Araweelo- welcome and plse feel free to use your psuedonym- I think you were called Araweelo long before I showed up as Caraweelo!
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| | Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 09:45 am i see no point why should one waist time in black historical university like the one DSC princess say something better. please!. just curios, i like the point u made brother.
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| | Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 03:16 pm Mr Anon, you seem to have been blinded by your Prejudice. if you are interested in gaining knowledge you have to discard and flush out this misconceptions that you have. An intelligent search for truth requires an open Mind. The education system is like a factory, and you are the Material. By the time you get your diploma, you come out well polished, processed and packaged, ready for delivery to the capitalist Market. It is a Market where the Whites enjoy the privileges that come with beign white and blacks carry the burdens that come with being Black. Anyone who goes to a black college is considered an outsider to this privileged class. As radiculous as it seems, what they would like you to believe is that the Concrete walls around you do add value to your diploma ! But the real Story is quite different from the American "White-Washed History ! Here is a very humorous and revealing story that you can share with your buddies at the "White schools" it is about a group of white people who were fed up with African Americans, so they joined together and wished themselves away. They passed through a deep dark tunnel and emerged in sort of a twilight zone where there is an America without black people. At first these white people breathe a sigh of relief. At last, they say, no more crime, drugs, violence and welfare. All of the blacks have gone!! Then suddenly, reality sets in. The "NEW AMERICA" is not America at all, only a barren land. There are very few crops that have flourished because the nation was built on a slave-supported system. There are no cities with tall skyscrapers because Alexander Mills, a black man, invented the elevator. There are few if any cars because Richard Spikes, a black man,invented the automatic gear shift, Joseph Gammell, also black, invented the Super Charger System for Internal Combustion Engines, and Garrett A. Morgan invented the traffic signals. Furthermore, one could not use the rapid transit system because its precursor was the electric trolley, which was invented by another black man, Elbert R. Robinson. Even if there were streets on which cars and a rapid transit system could operate, they were cluttered with paper because an African-American, Charles Brooks, invented the street sweeper. There were few if any newspapers, magazines and books because John Love invented the pencil sharpener, William Purvis invented the fountain pen, Lee Burridge invented the Type Writing Machine and W.A. Lovette invented the Advanced Printing Press. They were all black. Even if Americans could write their letters, articles and books, they would not have been transported by mail because William Barry invented the Postmarking and Canceling Machine, William Purvis invented the Hand Stamp and Phillip Downing invented the Letter Drop. The lawns were brown and wilted because Joseph Smith invented the Lawn Sprinkler and John Burr the Lawn Mower. When they entered their homes, they found them to be poorly ventilated and poorly heated. You see, Frederick Jones invented the Air Conditioner and Alice Parker the Heating Furnace. Their homes were also dim. But of course, Lewis Latimer invented the Electric Lamp, Michael Harvey invented the Lantern and Granville T. Woods invented the Automatic Cut-off Switch. Their homes were also filthy because Thomas W. Steward invented the Mop and Lloyd P. Ray, the dust pan. Their children met them at the door-barefooted, shabby, motley and unkept. But what could one expect. Jan E.Matzelinger invented the Shoe Lasting Machine, Walter Sammons invented the Comb, Sarah Boone invented the Ironing Board and George T. Samon invented the Clothes Dryer. Finally, they were resigned to at least have dinner amidst all of this turmoil. But here again, the food had spoiled because another black man, John Standard invented the refrigerator. What would this world be like without the contributions of Black people? America is created by dependencies on the inventions from the minds of Black folk. Give them credit they earned it. So Anonymous, tell your teachers to teach you the Whole story, Not just their White-Washed History.
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| | Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 03:21 pm Sorry folks about the long post I just had to let off some steam  "
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| | Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 03:57 pm PaPa lol That was more than i could have commented from this 'anonymous' who's jelousy is beyond the 'Quota Sign Language'..fadhomed! Caraweelo : Hi >>>> lol Sarcasm and Old English come in handy?...Pray..Tell..why do you think men of little sense bring much an image upon their head than that God Forsake them?Asunder shall i send for them?For i cannot tolerate their most uncivilsed minds,most repulsive,and unattractive wit..Pray....had i not born a princess...i dare say..i would put on that very same helmet and shield and fight like that splendid Camelot! My Major is Information Technology! Hi Alex
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| | Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 04:28 pm Carawello: I feel discriminated. How come I wasn't welcomed like Arawello was? Is it because I befriended (I'm not gonna mention names) the ladies's enemy number one? :-) Alex: I hate to be dimissed that easily when I inquire about something, but... I will be happy and keep ma peace since i'm still new here. Papa: Masha Allah :-) Arawello (visitor): If you are the one from the Islam folder, wlc aboard... TLG aka Trauntlabgirl here :-) Princess: hi :-)
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| | Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 04:59 pm mmmmmm......can we say DuH?
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| | Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 05:23 pm To all the interesting and delightful characters who have eloquently articulated their positive and useful ideas with such cleverness...y'all know who y'all are!! First of all belated Ramadan Kareem, considering it is the eleventh day...I don't know what good that'll do any of you..but I suppose you can forgive my shortcomings in advance..at least for now! Secondly,I would like to share with you all that I've just recently discovered that a page such as this even exists..let alone the possibility that it can indeed be so promising.Of course,I can only imagine what you must be asking yourselves...WHERE HAS THIS POOR LOST SOUL BEEN WANDERING ALL THIS TIME TO KEEP HER FROM HITHER FOR SUCH A SINFULLY LENGTHY PERIOD OF TIME??! Allow me to explain Your Graces.If the truth be told I have been having an affair with the people on the other side of the tracks!!You know the other side of Somalinet forumss..the ila qosol ones..I can't believe I actually survived all those disappointments!Perhaps I am being too shallow when I say this but you people in here seem far more mature,educated and oh my God are you guys WITTY!!Ever since I came here to the US I have been in search of people who had the afore mentioned qualities however minimum in dosage..but to no avail!!But ever since I stumbled across this page,I must say that I share the same sentiments of a nomadic DESERTWOMAN whom after travelling across the desert in search of water for days on end,under the scorching blaze of the sun,at the brink of giving up all hope finds an OASIS!!! I have quietly been following the goings on of this page during my spare time at work and there have been many a time when I found it almost unbearable to resist giving into to the temptation to put in a word or two and in some cases regarding the men GIVE THEM A NICE THRASHING!!Ummm you can only imagine how difficult resisting that temptation must be day in and day out.But of course since I was observing a fast my hands were very much tied and hence some of us in here(the men)felt the freedom to utter any odd thing that our minds were entertaining at the time...as the old saying goes WHEN THE CAT IS AWAY,THE MICE WILL PLAY! Since,I don't own a computer at Home(starving student scenario)and I am way too lazy to drive back to campus and send you guys some food for thought and I end up procrastinating making a grand entrance here...that is until tonight! I'm sorry.Where are my manners? Bly me,mother would die if she knew how presumptuous I was being.So at least for her sake,let me formally introduce myself.I am a current resident of Seattle.I'm on my own,I'm depressingly single,huge Sade fan and I'm still soul searching as to what I am to make of the rest of my life at least professionally.Currently I think WebMastering is the deal for me..But I can swear that becoming a formula one racing champion is one of my dreams...yeah I know being a Somali woman who happens to be muslim..I will hardly get to realize that dream so for now I just pray that Schumacher stays on top as he has for the past decade or so!I've yet to set eyes on an educated Somali man or woman for that matter and yes,yes I have ROAMED,ROAMED AND ROAMED the campuses of the colleges here..I think they've got my face down...I'm kind of on the down-low if you know what I mean..but you people really have given me hope and as corny as this may sound..You've shown me the light..you make me so proud..sniff,sniff. As for Alex,Just curious and More curious,all I can say is that I think y'all just took the word bitterness to a whole new level!And Alex from my people to your people,please for heaven's sake regardless of which one of these beautiful ladies successfully pisses you off by rejecting some of the nonsensical and ignorant idealogy that you've been waving around...please do watch the grammar and the spelling will you,it really is a disgrace you know to those of us who can actually spell correctly,keep our grammar in check and manage a well put acidic retort as well! Oh yeah someone mentioned earlier I fail to recall who,that Curiousity killed the cat,well did y'all know that Satisfaction brought it Back?!And I just love you guys that for writing essays;it is such a relief that people are taking the time to express themselves so heartily and in such depth too!Appreciation all the way folks! I just noticed that someone else is using the nick Muna which I normally go by,so I guess I will have to shed the name altogether so as not to confuse any of you.I am of this moment Lady Jane.So I will take my bow now;I believe my carriage awaits!Good day! Lady Jane has left the forums!! Until next time,peace,love and craziness to you all! Lady Jane.
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| | Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 05:28 pm To Papa: You can be my Papa anytime...but we must be especially discreet about the matter.You know it's off with my head if My Lord should find out!I can't take any chances of being exposed...I don't want our acquaintance to be so shortlived.I wish you good health and Godspeed! Until next time,peace,love and craziness to you! Lady Jane.
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| | Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 05:35 pm papa i dont believe all those inventions were done by africans come on until today 21st century africans r dying of hunger and disease........how can they after all invent all these things probably i do agree 20% of what u said but not all
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| | Thursday, December 07, 2000 - 11:52 pm Aarawelo, here are a few more old english phrases that may come in handy: "i pray thee..." "heavens..." "swonns..." "how now?..." "come now madam/sir..." loooooooooool
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| | Friday, December 08, 2000 - 07:02 am Good morning to all villagers: TLG: I’m sorry that I did not explain it to you what I have written in Somali. I was just been silly that is all. Here it goes: I have told the guy that here is Virginia we have few ladies whom studies sociology who are giving us hard time with their degrees. Princes : Hello to you. Lady Jane: First let me welcome you to the village. Your writing is brilliant. There is no lady who pissed me off here. I adore these ladies. I look forward reading their posting everyday. You need to go back as far as last Ramadan to find out the big picture .I admit that I don’t pay much attention to my grammar nor o I proof read. I write what comes to my mind and move on. I don’t have a chip on my shoulder to worry about that. PS: Be careful of making career out of web Mastering. It’s not in high demand as it use to be. Take care.
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| | Friday, December 08, 2000 - 07:06 am Lady Jane to show you that I don’t prove read I should have said their postings (Plural). Hey I’m a cab driver. For a cab driver I should be in the Deans List.
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| | Friday, December 08, 2000 - 08:23 am Loool I can't understand how you failed to see that i was the one who said Curiousity Killed the Cat.Your Ladyship is most unperceptive.Pray do tell how you came to be Lady Jane..?Is it associated with a certain Lady Jane we know? Bly do tell.....Pray...! Alex, Dont you think Taxi Driving is Dangerous? Tlg> Hi Back! "Why Successful Women scare away their Men" ************ Communication!- Compatibility! -Conveneience! - Communication: Its more complicated than the underlined meaning of Success.Its more to do with the deep interpretaions of what is easy to understand and what is not.We talk differently.The somali men expect the same standards fulfilled by their Parents.It's impossible.Otherwise,you would have asked for unsuccessful women whom are raised up to the same expectations set by men. Compatibility: Obviously you have to be compatible?Its the first rule of relationship.What are the odds of living with each other if you have nothing in common? Convenience: There has to be compromise and the right time at the right moment and place.No elaboration than that! Dont you Agreeeeeeeeee? loooool
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| | Friday, December 08, 2000 - 12:33 pm alex, tell these ladies sociology noway they can make more then 20K. thus, there is no need to show off. i wonder what they will do with siciology degree in US...........the only way an immigrant can survive in US is with technical degrees the rest will ................
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| | Saturday, December 09, 2000 - 06:38 am Ibraheem ibn Adham, May Allah has mercy upon him, was asked about the saying of Allah -The most High: And your Lord says: Call on me I will answer your prayers..… We supplicate and we are not answered.’ Why ??? So he said to them,,.. You know Allah, yet you do not obey him. You recite the Qur’aan, yet you do not act according to it. You know shaitan,yet you have agreed with him. You proclaim that you love the messenger of Allah, yet you Abandon His Sunna. You proclaim your love for paradise, yet you do not act to gain it. You proclaim your fear for the Hell fire, yet you do not prevent yourselves from sins. You say : indeed death is true, yet you have not prepared for it. You busy yourselves with findings faults with others, yet you do not look at your own faults. You eat that which Allaah has provided for you, yet you do not thank him. You bury your dead, yet you do not take a lesson from it !!!
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| | Sunday, December 10, 2000 - 04:32 pm Asalaamu calaykum everyone, I was planning on posting a long, involved and painstakingly choreographed retort to CoolPoison/Just-a-thought/Alex/insert-name-of-wimpy-self-indulgent-male-here, but decided to forgo it in lieu of the following: It's a "Ramadan Islamic trivia" contest that the MSA of my school devised. Basically you try to answer as many of the questions as you can by the end of Ramadan. It may involve extensive research for some (like me), others may know the answers down-pat. In either case it's good for learning about your Deen. At school they are giving money prizes to people who win the most, but needless to say, you're not getting a buck from me (this means you Alex). 1. Who were the mother and father of Prophet Muhammed? 2. What is the most frequently used word in the Quran? 3. What is the shortest surah in the Quran? 4. In which month did the Prophet Mohammed receive the first revelation? 5. What book was revealed to Isa (a.s) 6. Which Prophet was the most handsome man? 7. Which prophet was swallowed by a fish? 8. Which surah is considered to be equivalent in meaning to 1/3 of the whole Quran? 9. How many suras in the Quran are named after prophets? 10. Before prophethood, by what name was Prophet Mohammed (s.a.w) known? 11. What is the job of Angel Israfil? 12. Who were the first Caliphs of the Muslims? 13. Who was the first to accept the message of the prophet (s.a.w)? 14. Which surah talks about the attack on Mecca by Abraha? 15. How old was Khadeeja when she married the Prophet (a.s)? 16. Which surah is considered to be the heart of the Quran? 17. Which surah is named after one of the prophet's (s.a.w) uncles? 18. How many major collections of hadeeth are there? 19. Name the site of the first revelation of the Quran? 20. How many years did the Caliphate of Uthman ibn Affan (r.a.) last? 21. Who is the only Sahaba explicitly mentioned in the Quran? 22. Which Caliph was killed while reading the Quran? 23. Which prophet was sent to the people of Aad? 24. Which surah in the Quran has the phrase "Bismillah Al-Rahman Al-Raheem" stated twice? 25. Which surah does not start with Bismillah? 26. Who rediscovered the well of ZamZam after it was lost for generations? 27. What do the surahs Yusuf, Ibrahim and Al-Hijir have in common? 28. What people were given a huge She-Camel as a sign from Allah s.w., which they later killed? 29. Which prophets spoke directly to Allah S.W.? 30. Which surah of the Quran was the last to be revealed in its entirety? 31. What is the name of the Beast that the Prophet (s.a.w) rode during the Miraj (ascension to heaven)? 32. According to the Quran, how many years did Prophet Nuh (a.s) call his people to the truth? 33. In the Quran, which tree stands at the depth of hell-fire? 34. In which Islamic year was the Qiblah changed from Jerusalem to Mecca? 35. Who accepted Islam after reading 8 verses of surat TaHa? 36. In whose house did the early Muslims meet secretly for prayer and study before Hijra? 37. Who was the first child to be born into Islam (in Medina)? 38. In Yusuf's (a.s) dream, the sun and moon bowed to him along with how many stars? 39. Who was Egypt's first Muslim Ruler (Ameer)? 40. When was Eid-al-Fitr first celebrated by Muslims? Good luck and Ramadan kariim!!! P.S. Questions 24 and 25 threw me into nostalgia for a moment, does any body know what I mean?
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| | Sunday, December 10, 2000 - 04:44 pm Oh I forgot--- Welcome Lady Jane. I must say, I am getting envious of all these chivalrous names. Can I change my name to Lancelot, or Guwaine, or even Arthur? How about Morgan Le Fey? I don't mind being the witch who topples Camelot (heck, it wasn't all that good--some were more equal than others). If everybody signs a petition, I will (unlike Stockwell Day!)
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| | Sunday, December 10, 2000 - 09:36 pm Interesting.....charming people....have guys and girls considered running for office in the new somalia....the post independence generation is aging and growing weary by da day.....somalia needs new influx of young leaders with ambitions and clear ideas and hopefully free of tribalism ,bigotry,nepotism, favouritism,etc....i would love to see young somalis start political movement in diasporo....somalia needs a federal state with a legislature..judiciary system and cheif executive to balance power and give more voice to the mini-states within the federation....you guys are full of ideas...i wish there were ways you could put them into action....the pre-independence generation won us our precious indepence, the post independence generation throw us into choas, may be it is time for the "generation in exile" to take over. for guy who siad they are more men than women in collages.....atleast in the states they are more girls than guys that are attending collages...check any state collage or private ones as for somalis.....alot of them are begining to understand education is the way out...so the number of somali girls in collages is increasing..i hope the new somali gov understand the need to invest in the female population as they make more than half of somali population....and it is only fair.....we owe great debt to our women...i personally believe they have so long been neglected and under-estimated. Papa....i think i have seen somebody else who wrote the very same thing that mentioned above...anyway i agree with many things yu siad..education in north america is so uerocentric.....advances made by other races is hardly emphisized. hay who talks of old english....damn i don't really like it.....i did an assignment on shakesperean play "The Tempest".....translating into modern eglish was painstaking and boring...the play its-self was ok though .....my instructor who is of Irish origin made interesting anology between the theme of the The Tempest play and the european colonization of the world....everything from genocides of Indains, the Negriod enslavement, to invasion of the english into the caltic lands...well we had long and interesting arguments...the instructor and i were on the same side and the rest of class were agianst us...they probaby hate me now....iam glad the semester is coming to an end. Ramadan Kariim
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| | Monday, December 11, 2000 - 06:37 am Ramadan karim . Good Morning dear Deeqa, do you know as of today we have fasted 15 days. Half of the Ramadan is gone. We are on Half time Deeqa. Wadac Wadac Yaa Ramadan. Deeqa it’s always a pleasure to read your postings. I have few questions to ask you. I did not take the pre-requested for this test. Am I exempt from this test? Is this one an open book test? If I have to take the test, can I withdraw this class and sing up for the next one (Next Ramadan). Somali Yankee: We know that there are more female in college than men. It’s interesting, you suggested that we (excluding me) run for offices in Somalia. How are we going to stop the relatives who will demand favors? Please give the village some rules to work with? Ps: Please let us not talk about the Redskins loosing to the Cowboys. Thank you.
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| | Monday, December 11, 2000 - 07:18 am Deeqa- Thank you for sharing the quiz- I think I had 30/40? pathetic huh? But what intrigued me was what you said re: Sura w and w/o bismillahi. I vaguely remembered learning something about it- so I went on my "search". and found the answer. Jazaallah Khyran- for you made me read a sura this morning- from begining to end. Now tell me- what did you mean by your last comment? maybe something to do with those who did not go with the Prophet (pbuh) during a battle? or am I way off base. PLEASE ANSWER ASAP. TLG- my apologies- WELCOME! MARHABA! WELCOMEN!MININKA MININKAAGI WAAYE! etc etc etc! I think there has been an old english invasion- not sure what to make of it?! let me quote "DuH"- huh? LOL!
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| | Monday, December 11, 2000 - 07:38 am Good morning Caraweelo. FYI Omar will not be singing in Virginia this New Year, he will be singing in Minneapolis, MN. Aaxxow and Omar are still in Minneapolis as of last night and might not come back anytime soon. I thought you might need this information to better plan your New Year Celebration. Take care.
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| | Monday, December 11, 2000 - 08:35 am Asalama caleykum wa raxmatulaahi wa barakaatu: It is a nice Monday morning,I woke up on the right side of the bed,I watched The Practice last night,I could answer almost all the questions on Who Wants To Be A Millionare last night,I'm up to date with my car payments so that means they aren't going to tow it away and I won't have to start freaking out until next month,I'm feeling oh so irritably cheerful and I thought I'd share that with you guys. Alex,thank you for welcoming me and extending some of that hospitality my way.Okay just until Ramadan is over I'll stay off your case with the grammar issue!..lol.Oh yeah,Alex Web Mastering is still in high demand especially the techinical writing bit of it so unless you want to contest the above with statistics that I might have overlooked...please stop telling me that I might have to think about rethinking my major...it's just too painful...which is techinically Interactive Media!And those women with the MSW or Masters of Social Work degrees,they might have more than a chance of earning above $20,000.You see I work for a non-profit East African agency and I've realized that at least in Seattle one can make a comfortable living at Social Work especially at DSHS.It's just a matter of channeling yourself the right way and establishing a network with the right people or the Big Kahunas!So you know those oh so irritating females in Virginia(correct me if I'm wrong)may have more than a good reason or two to be waving their degrees at ya!!As for me if there's one thing I do know and can claim to have some knowledge of,it's the fact that Social Work is not the career for me..at least not long term anyway...seriously speaking it involves too much bullsh*ting,but that's just my opinion..you don't have to take my word for it.... Princess Guinevre,thank you as well for welcoming me to this humble abode of yours.Your Grace will have to excuse me for not being as perceptive or astute as one might have hoped...of course I should have made an educated guess and realized that it was you who said that whole thing about curiousity.As I said earlier I hope that I will be forgiven for my shortcomings and inevitable future sins in advance.And no I do not bear any affiliations with this other Lady Jane you speak of(is that a bad thing or a good thing hmm?) but please spare me the grief of hunting for another nick!BTW,I tried to chat over the weekend using this nick and it required a password...so is that the Lady Jane you're referring too?Lady Jane was just an interesting character in a timeless novel written by Jean Plaidy...I hope you are familiar with her work..she is very renowned for her flair to take you back a couple of centuries to the royal families of Britain or Spain or perhaps even France and suck you into a world of dangerous politics,seduction,love,treachery...you have to read it to understand and fully appreciate it...Like a nice,succulent piece of well done New York Steak!! Okay I'll stop with the food torture!! Deeqa,thanks for welcoming me as well and thanks for that little quiz up there too...my God I think I bearly made half of them...I am truly ashamed!!!But thanks to you I shall hit the books as soon as I get off work!It was quite refreshing and rather overdue at least on my part! Since I'm not oozing with wisdom today(a very rare event)I'll just sign off right here. Until next time,peace,love and craziness to you all! Lady Jane.
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| | Monday, December 11, 2000 - 10:40 am Alex- what's with the bad news?!!! No Omar Yare- See this is the problem with having a single entertainer ...multitude of cities with large somali populations popping up all over the map! Ah well- just as well- I think I will busy myself with some morbid thought or two! After all I will be a year older and it will be 2001????!!!! Where did the years go? Your Ladyship- please forgive my rude behaviour- I was so overcome with Deeqa-aka Lancelot's- quiz that I neglected to welcome your charming person to our midst. If you mind the obnoxious- yet utterly lovable-cabbie/stockbroker/matchmaker ....you will find our village a nice place to hide. So you are a Practice fan! What did you think of last night's episode- I was so looking frwd to it and it was somewhat of a let down- ie. re: the revisiting serial (maybe) killer. Nothing like the decapitating nun!!! Now THAT was way cool! Caraweelo to Deeqa... please respond- Seems to be out on an Away mission.....
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| | Monday, December 11, 2000 - 11:06 am Alex....we need to create socail classes in somalia perhaps encourage free market ecomony where everybody strives on his own....hopefully people won't be interested in kinship....my guess is people of the same interest would run together. Lady Jane....i hope i won't be much of truoble if i ask yu to give some info about seattle...i plan to transfer to university of washington when iam done with my current major....i will be gratefull sis peace
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| | Monday, December 11, 2000 - 12:12 pm Asalama Caleykum wa Raxmatullahi wa Barakatu! To Carawelo: Your apology is accepted.And might I add that your kindness knows no bounds that you should finally take notice of my hardly neglectable "charming person"..truly I think I should take this moment to feel the LOVE!!..lol. Of course I'm a fan of Practice..and a devoted one at that!I just love watching Bobbie put the DA to shame...and I just relish in moments when that little DA man can think of nothing else to say but to call Bobbie's entire firm and associates a bunch of unfeeling, grimy, sleazy, disgusting,morbidly twisted SNAKES!!!I still roll on the floor each time I recall that episode! Ah,yes then there is that whole thing ABC does to hype up,up-coming episodes and peek the viewer's interest and fancy until they no longer can endure the wait only to be let down by a small entrance made by that so-called serial killer whose out to get Lindsay(I think Ed Bundy would hate to be put in a category with him)and then worsen our plight by making GRUESOMELY SCARY INSINUATIONS about harming Lindsay and that secretary of theirs.Here comes the one that really cracked me up..when he said that he would be forced to commit murder in order to obtain representation from Lindsay and how he wanted his NOT GUILTY verdict overturned...I mean is that supposed to be a scary way to make us laugh?...it concerns me...But I must agree The Nun was quite Delightful! Okay enough about Practice. To Somali Yankee: Dear Sir,I would be glad to help you in any which way I can regarding UW...sadly however,I don't attend the University of Washington.In fact,my sorry behind is in Community College(show me some LUV)but Insha Allah I hope to transfer there within the next year or so...and of course I will put off my research of the School until about a quarter before I make my transfer...Are you sure you want to put your fate in the hands of such a person??..lol.Seriously though,where are you planning to transfer from and what major are you working on if I may inquire? I am of the mind to hail myself today...join me... Long Live Lady Jane! Long Live Lady Jane! Oh come,come say it with me now. Until next time,peace,love and craziness to you all! Lady Jane.
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| | Monday, December 11, 2000 - 12:48 pm Long live Lady Jane! Long live Lady Jane! Long live La...no, no stop it! Long liv...aaah. The only time I watched the Practice, this serial killer had oh-so-cleverly manipulated the lawyer woman so that she would represent him as innocent. I thought that bit was beautiful. I couldn't tell until the last second whether he was a nut or a killer... and that's unusual in most law-shows nowadays. Alex: No, you're not exempt from the test...since the only criterion is that you be a relatively literate Muslim. Yes it's an open book (Qur'an/hadeeth) test. In fact, it's better that way. Sure you can take next Ramadan's class, but there are no guarentees that you'll be alive or that the same questions will be asked. Brother, just give it your best and try not to weasel your way out. Hey, last night I took a cab home when I missed the last bus. I rarely ride cabs, so every time I heard a peep from the meter thing, I would lean forward oh-so-casually and watch the driver suspiciously to see if he was fiddling with the price. And all because of you. Oh BTW, I am so sorry that your Redskins lost; mayhap they are Blueskins now? Caraweelo: Gosh, I am so frantic...I am not sure which last comment you're refering to. If you meant the Bismillah questions, I was just feeling nostalgic because when we were kids in Somalia, we used to make up stories for why suratul-bara'at didn't have bismillah whereas al-Naml had two.... the prevailing theory was that al-Naml had stolen al-Bara'at's bismillah while the latter was praying. May Allah forgive us for being unknowingly blasphemous. Hey if you answered 30 of the 40 questions in only one day, I am impressed. The competition is meant to last until the end of Ramadan!
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| | Monday, December 11, 2000 - 01:11 pm Somali Yankee: Trust me, you don't want us running the show in Somali; we'd spend so much of our time bickering about minor issues that nothing would get done. But I know what you mean about the favourism... the problem is, for most Somalis the group of people considered "family" or "relatives" is so huge one feels honor-bound to help so many people. Well, actually this is not a problem, but a blessing in most cases. It's just that when you have a person in authority, and he insists on surrounding himself with relatives and sycophants, there's going to be an inevitable abuse of power. One way to prevent this from happening is to make the appointments of positions independent. I don't know much about the US system, but aren't most officials elected independently? And isn't it often the case that a president's party is not necessarily the majority in government? Although come to think of it, the US system is probably not a good model and paragon of what democracy is supposed to be about at the moment. Speaking of elections, what is with the mass oxedus towards the ballot box? Canada had early federal elections last month, the US is (still!) embroiled in elections, Ehud Barak has called an election far ahead of the end of his term in Israel, Romania, Trinidad, Ghana, the Ivory Coast, all are holding elections of questionable validity... Must be an unexpected, late manifestation of the otherwise harmless Y2K bug.
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| | Monday, December 11, 2000 - 03:49 pm alex, where do u see more women in schools than men? r u refering to other nationals or us somalis? if you r refering to us somalis, brother u r wrong! we have more women loosers than men. every where no matter what country you go. and even the more distance u travel from west the more dump somali women u will meet. at-least those in states can speak english! we should give them credit for that........here in the forums, there r few girls who seem to represent all somali women in states or in west as a whole. i guarantee u 95% of them r still in community colleges that is as far as they can go.....believe me.....alex, u said u r in VA, honestly how many somali women u did meet going to grad school or even thinking about it?..........the highest they can go for...is BA, they just cant make higher than that since there main goal is just to have some sort of certificate which atleast proves they have gone to school..............once in there life!..... in somalia men has been taking care of women since "maalintii la abuurey aduunka".......women aint nothing in this world.......they heve specific job to do..........and they do it very well.........even in west where more freedom of expression is granted to women......look for instance in US, its male dominat world...every where.......
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| | Monday, December 11, 2000 - 08:48 pm long live jane lady lol hi...iam actually in ny city studing health services management.....iam hoping to do my second major in health info management....the two fields are closely related....and i only need less 20 credits to get my second degree.....i already check the university webpage and they do offer the major that iam looking for.....besides iam tired of crazy ny life-style....i would love to know life in the seattle and job oppurtunities. alot of love Deeqa....i hope cycle of abuse won't be repeated..that's why we need to be a federalists nation and balance power in way that everyone is represented.....n speaking of elections alot of action in florida....came to the supreme court...guess the guy with most money and best lawyers will win the contest....i personally wish robot-like Al Gore wins....Bush seems to depend on others , chick deney and colin powel to name a few.....i wouldn't mind clinton to continue running the country....i wished they changed the constitution to let him rule the country for the third term. Last Anon....what makes yu think somali women can't excel at ecademics?
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| | Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 02:39 am Salaam to all, long live Lady Jane :-) May Allah give you long life with good deeds and happiness. Exams are over, yahoo!. Snow storm in my part of the globe. Schools are closed and the rest of the exams scheduled for today are cancelled, which doesn't do me any good. That's about all i can pack in right now. Carawello, thanks for the belated welcome (which I had to demand,lol) Alex, you are adorable:-). I liked how u so nicely apologised. I was just pulling your leg. Deeqa, thanks for the quiz. It added a lot to my Islaamic knowledge which is at its infancy stage. BTW deeqa, you sound very familiar? do u by any chance go to a University in Toronto and have a friend that has a friend in Steel city? If you are not who I think u are, then just ignore my intrusion please. Princess, where have thou gone? hitting the books? Not too hard I hope. Lady Jane, ahlan wasahlan. Are u by any chance Muna from the "polygamy works" thread? that writing is all too familiar :-) It seems i'm asking a lot of questions today. I'll stop here for now. Last Anon: Relax bro...I sense some bitterness in your tone. If the sisters are not educating themselves as you so brilliantly noticed, then you should be encouraging them to, not only in worldy matters but those for the hereafter too. But if they are, give them a lil credit, would you? To all others that I failed to mention, salaams.
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| | Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 06:05 am Hello everyone! and ofcourse,Very Happy Ramadan! It's been quite a while since I've been here,months to be exact and I'm quite thrilled to see Da Village still in good shape and a bit overflowing than I anticipated,thanx to all the new dwellers that presumably seem to be joinning us.I do welcome you all and I have to admit that the level of maturity is quite Fabulous indeed! Anon1 & Caraweelo....Thanx so much for the Hadiths,I extremely appreciated... Deeqa...Inevitably I must say that you're so adorable no matter how much I used to hate that War_H thing back in the days of rivalries among the villagers...I guess our team prevailed.but hey that was 2 yrs ago... Alex.....Any ideas whatever happened to the rest of the gang...???BTW sorry about your Redskins,next season starts within 8 months...Until then go "Buckeyes".. Lady Jane....Can you recall these two lines...You think I'd leave your side babe'h? you know me better than that....You think I'd leave you when you're down on your knees??I would'nt do that.......BTW Welcome 2 Da Village. TLG...Welcome as well and drive safely Ya know those roads can be quite treacherous!and remember "Buckle-up"... Got to run...catch ya'll later...
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| | Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 07:32 am Let it snow, Let it snow Let it snow........................
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| | Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 08:38 am Hello Cybers "What is the Topic?" Cyberology : The study of Cyber world and its content.What is the Topic? To know or not to know that is the topic? Hi everyone, Salutations from the island of Wales.(Imaginitive).I just thought i should spare some few coins of my spare time and involve myself with you cyberlings.Can you blame the Patroness?Hello to Tlg - Her Grace is splendidly occupied with matters of the heart,but i thank you for your concern.Stoooooooooop!(Modern English lol) Hi Tlg....I was ..involved in studies,among other things.Thanx! Lady jane & Deeqa.....The practice? I like that show.It's Great.My favorite character is ofcourse,'Elenor'- The main body of the show,that she is.Did you watch the recent episode?Where the Lindsy (Bobbi's wife) is Geniusly tricked by the serial killer?His Manipuilation was profoundly Canning.You know i always have premonitions on Movies outcome but i think that left me guessing all the way.My fav......episode is..when the whole firm goes to Califonia and confront the obnoxious Judge who Hated ...outsiders.And the way he pronounced Massachusetts? Unforgivavle! Yes.....and one more ..deal....I'm a Huge Fan of Sade & Lauren Hill
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| | Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 08:39 am Good Morning to all First Nasir : Welcome brothers I see you are still alive and well, for a moment I thought you met a girl like Deeqo and driving you crazy. Nasir Deeqa is still available, just for your information. You can rekindle the flame and if you need DHUXUL IYO TARAQ. We will find even if we have to go to the end of the world. About the village’s old gang, I have not seen them for a while. And here is what I think happened to some of them. Caafi he is married man and not a free man anymore. Mullah: He is trying to get a position in the newly created Somali Government. WABS or MWLP: women problem. Since most of the women in Toronto are in either Minnesota or Ohio, all his time is spent between Toronto, Minneapolis and Ohio. Xaali : She shows up sometimes. X: I have not seen her al all. I was kind of wondering who will I put on my tax forms this year to extract some extra Mullah from Uncle Sam. Nasir can you help me with some social security numbers? You know what I mean. I hope. Mr Cool and Ladan: I think they are busy with school and love life, which is good. Welcome back Nasir. Caraweelo: yes dear Omar and Aaxow are in Minneapolis. That is what happens when you put all your stocks in one basket. We should have diversified. In reality we should not have send all those people to Canada, Ohio and Minnesota. You know it’s demand and supply. This makes me to think seriously of moving to Minneapolis. Caraweelo I don’t have to worry about the new Years Eve I will be working. You know us cab drivers we make a killing that night. Good luck with your party plan. Hey it’s a good time to buy stocks and hold on to until the end of next year. Example MCI world com is $15 a share it use to be in the 90’s I believe those who buy now and hold on to until the end of next year will make a nice profit from it. This is just a example there are other stocks that are way down. Somali Yankee: Brother we already have a free market economy where have you been, and people with same interest are together. The warlords are together with the same interest, and Former SIYAD BARRE boys are together in a hotel. You said people with the same interest would run together, I would say they already hit the ground running with their NIKE shoes. (Just DO IT). Lady Jane: This is a death treat from OSAMA BIN LADIN. Watch under your car for a ticking clock. Hey how is life is Seattle? Please pass this massage to Bill Gates from me. “ Thank you for making us re take all the MSCE exams. We are more then happy to help you pay with your legal bill”. Deeqa: Bad news I can’t take the exams family emergency. (Death in the Family). Anonymous: I see these women in the Somali communities. The reason they take little longer to finish the Community collage could be explained in case by case. Some of them don’t have good background, and take the pre Requested classes and takes time. Some of them work full time, which prevents them taking the 17 credit hours required to finish in two year. The good news is at least they are doing it before you know it they have finished, you know they say, “ It’s better late then never”. TLG: Please don’t pull my leg. I have been known of suing people for injuries. I don’t know why you are wishing Lady Jane long life and not to all of us, and when has she done a good deeded. Prices Guinevre No Please God don’t let it snow in Washington area until after Ramadan. Some of us single people who don’t make AFUR and depend on others for it can’t take it. Amen.
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| | Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 09:04 am Asalama Caleykum wa Raxmatullahi wa Barakatu! Greetings everyone!I hope you're all having a good day today,if not...well stop feeling sorry for yourself and ditch that lousy mood..You know why???Because we're all young(relatively young,depends on if you're using BC or AD to date your birth!!)and because finals are over and school's out and we get to PARTY for the rest of the year!!!!! Oh come on Cheer up will ya! Thanks you guys for carrying on the tradition...after all it is quite customary if not obligatory that the subjects of her Ladyship hail her at least once a day for all to see and hear!I am of the mind to ask that each and everyone of my jokes be laughed at and be received as witty,ingenius and of course utterly hilarious...but I shall wait for a fairer day...lol! Goodness gracious, what's this I hear? The whole lot of you have been together for 2 years or more now....my oh my why wasn't I told?!This is cunning treachery I tell you,no,no...it is...TREASON yes that's what I shall call it when I bring it to the King's attention!You have my word that His Royal Highness will have a fit over this...that his sweet companion be neglected so!That she be cast aside like that!Nevertheless,I admire your diligent devotion headstrong ways so that you may keep the village intact and ward of all predators however royal. Oh,oh...I feel faint!I believe I will retire to my chambers shortly. To Anonymous: Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!! Now haven't I already warned you never to say things of even a slightly negative nature in regards to COMMUNITY COLLEGE people!!!What is wrong with you?And where in the world do you get your facts?Or shall I say your baseless,mad ideas which have very little to do with the truth as we all know it?You know there are a lot of Somali women out there who possess ambition and drive to fuel their engines so that they may realize their dreams which most of them do get to accomplish okay.The journey doesn't end abruptly at Community College as you claim!Dear child,there is nothing wrong with going to Community College,you should get off your high horse and visit one some day. BTW,I have just been informed that my favourite Black Stallion is nowhere to be found.Not on the grounds,not in the stables...nowhere!Perhaps that is the same one you've been riding all over town; too busy doing that senseless,degrading so-called spitting image of the Royal family act to even realize just what a fool you're making of yourself!I am inclined to put you out of your misery and make you a court jester so that I may at least laugh at you..but I seriously doubt that you are capable of filling even a jester's shoes..perhaps we should significantly modify and reduce the requirements and qualifications for a Court Jester! I have just two questions for you man.Are you serious in thinking that the sole purpose for the creation of women is to be baby factories so that the likes of you may unfortunately have more offsprings and decendants?Given that your statistics are true:Are you actually deliriously happy that your fellow Somali sisters are not as educated as the men since you put it that way? Okay I've chewed on him enough...I might resort to giving into unladylike tendencies...and may actually penetrate the man's bones!!!Someone else deal with him...May Allah give him the guidance he is so clearly in need of. To Somali Yankee: Thanks for the info.Health Services Management eh?So what peeked your interests there,if I may ask? To TLG: Thank you kindly for wishing me great health and ah yes lots and lots of good deeds.You are quite observant I must say.Yes I am the very same Muna from the Polygamy discussion.I abandoned the name when I noticed that someone else was using it on this page.I hope you weren't trying to rid yourself of me.But hey the charm is still the same right?..lol. To Nasir: Welcome back.I can see that my charm does wonders with even the absent.Say,did you sniff your way back here?..lol.I'm mighty glad to see that a Sade fan in our midst.And yes I recall those lyrics.Aren't they just absolutely touching? I bought the album the day after it came out.It's just brilliant.I can't imagine living life without it.I fell in love with every track on the album.Oh and I just adore Slave Song, Immigrant and my favourite King of Sorrow.Okay,I'm going to start rambling very soon so I'll just sign off right here. BTW,did anyone watch Disappearing Acts on HBO?The one with Wesley Snipes and Sanaa something you know that girl from Love and Basketball?I thought it was a rich depiction of urban life, unemployment,having kids and the responsibilities that come with having them,the effect that two people can have on eachother(good&bad)and of course LOVE! Alright,alright I know that was a long one.But I've been awake since 5am this morning.What in the world did you people expect that I do with all this energy?! Until next time,peace,love and craziness to you all! Lady Jane.
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| | Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 09:54 am Oh Oh Princess- don't date yourself by mentioning Sade! LOL! I love her throaty voice- so real! Now let me seriously date myself- what about Anita Baker- the best of all the jazzies. As for Lauren Hill- I just don't get her- It must be the age thing! LOL! opps! there I go again- Hail to the chief- long live Lady Jane...etc etc Deeqa- I thought it was sura al tauba that did not have bismillah- and fatiha that had 2. are there 2 sura's w/o bismillah? Nasir- wlcm back! now where is Muna, Caafi and Mullah- then the WAR_H wars can commence with fury! Which reminds me- what is with this last Anon? I will ignore him until after ramadan- I don't want to loose any of my miniscule "ajar".
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| | Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 11:02 am Lady J. you made quite an entrance I must say ! , btw, the word discreet seems to have a very loose definition in the post Lewinsky era, before you know it there will be subpoenas flying all over the place ! just cant stomach the thought of you being beheaded. your financial situation brings back memories of the lean and mean years of student life. There were days when the basics necessities were stretched, my specialty was the toast sandwich, take three slices of toast, place one in between and pronto ! you are good to go. Alex , you must be making a killing with all those Lawyers hoovering back and forth ! About the Redskins dont loose sleep over it, there is Life afeter death even in football. TLB Alex dont lose sleep over the Redskins, there is life after death ! Even In football ! Salaams to all the rest.
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| | Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 01:54 pm I'm quiet amused to find mythological and medieval names here! Not to mention half of the british aristocracy. I hope I've chosen a name fitting for this discussion. From women's right, to education, to british litereature and social improvements. So? I wonder where the conversation will head next? Deeqa&Arawello perhaps you could enlighten me??
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| | Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 05:44 pm Caraweelo & Princess & Lady Jane: WHO'S SADE? {caffeine-induced fit of giggles} Lady Jane: Stop it. All that cheerfulness is making me ill. I have three more exams to go.... but good for you for finishing already... so what are you gonna do for the next three/four weeks? Caraweelo: You're right about sura al tauba not starting with bismillah--but it's also called sura al-bara'at. And al-fatiha doesn't *really* have two bismillahs, at least not completely (just al-rahmani rahiim). Al-Naml has the whole phrase (bismillahi rahmani rahiim). If I remember right, it's uttered by Prophet Sulayman, inviting the Queen of Sheba to Islam. Hold on. It might not be Al-Naml though....gonna have to double check... Did you get anymore of the questions? Nasir: Thank you. But don't you know, WAR-H has decided to adopt more subversive tactics...gone are the days of suffragettes starving themselves and chaining their defiant selves to gates...gone the era of thundering about women's rights from hill tops (hold on, that did happened right?-- it sounds so romantic)...no more the time of Consciousness Raising Workshops and Women Are Strong Together circles...the time of heated debates with political dinosaurs has pasted....days of refusing to shave {more giggles} are no more (Lady Speedstick is eternally grateful for this)... Now it's education, education, education. My role in WAR-H is to tutor at-risk teen girls, get them thru highschool, college, etc. There are very few organizations willing to do the same for men. AND very few boys willing to take advantage of such organizations anyway. So you see, WAR-H won after. Ramadaan Kariim everyone.
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| | Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 07:06 pm what a load of misconstrued intellectuals wanna be.You know you all bitches and fags?DuH
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| | Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 11:38 pm Salamu calykum and ramadan karim. I have seen this topic a few times and I pass. I thought it was going to be one of those mindless subjects , and I was wrong my apology to you all. except the once who brought the nonsense, if you can't take the heat get out of kitchen. I will make sure to stop by next time..... take care
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| | Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 02:38 am Ramadhan karim I do send my regards to everyone and me have to say I am impressed by all of you ladies it seems the ladies can walk the walk and talk the talk am so proud of you ladies as education is the key to fighting the oppressor one of you said about nostalgia which means sweet and bitter yearning for things of the past ladies keep on the good work and show these men that the women are light years ahead of the men even though am a man if it were not for the Somali women most of us would be in refugee camps as women do not forget their roots unlike their counterpart till then take care people and arawello you are the best
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| | Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 05:16 am Salaamu calaykum I am really impressed with the group of people that posts here now. Maasha Allah. Keep up the good work. How is Ramadan? And Alex is it true brother Caafi got married? Maasha Allah. I am happy for him. To the rest of you see you soon. Xaali a special hello. Just a thought thanks. And Papa when you label me as wise I KNOW I have been getting older! Which I am not complaining about walaalo. Jazzakalaah khayr. The last 10 days are approaching. We should increase our Cibaadah. May Allah accept our prayers. May Allah forgive our sins. May Allah grant us the ultimate reward: JANNAH. Peace Cajabo
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| | Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 06:18 am Deeqa- LOL re: sade! so now I know you are in your early 20's! Re: the sura with the 2 bismillah- is there one that actually has a double bismillah at the start. Fatiha has it double listed. ie. in the begining (as with all sura's except At-Tauba) and then again listed as the 1st ayah. Still working on the other questions.... now that I have til the end of ramadan. Zamalek- wlcm and thanks for the kind words- even if you mean "araweelo" not "caraweelo" Anyone seen Xaali lately- I think fasting has made our friend too tired to type! Jon or Joan of Arc? Hope you are one of the higher gender! If so welcome! There I go again- I forgot to hail the lady! Your ladyship- my apologies- yet again. I have a suggestion- can we all pray for a MAJOR snow storm in the East- I need a few days off! Seriously I envy all you university/college persons. Although being- continuosly-broke was not something I enjoyed during my college years (they actually had to kick me out- I had "majored" in being a permenant student), living this "professional-life" (aka rat-race: translation-going nowhere super fast)is getting sooo boring. Somedays I wish my anscestors never left their village life. Imagine life without school, work, bills, choices (therein lies the devil), cars, pollution, gossiping do-nothings etc etc etc. Come to think of it- what exactly did we trade our heritage for?
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| | Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 07:45 am Salaam to all, let me see, where should I begin? Ok, i'll start by saying, may Allah give everyone (and specically Alex) long life, good deeds and happiness. See Alex, it wasn't for Lady J only :-) Naasir, thanks for the warm welcome. About the buckling up thing, do u know of the new study that says it doesn't do u any good any more? well, again that is just science and it is constant proves and disproves. Ajaaib. Alex, nooo...please ...no lawsuits...those text books are getting so damn expensive, i've resorted to copy rights infringement. so a law suit would be an appointment with death. Papa, <smiles> Lady J, no worries sis...and yes the charm is still very much present. Deeqa, I take your not answering my question as not being the person I was thinking...thanks anyway, and sorry again. Carawello, I will pray for a snow storm...where exactly did u want the snow again? And yes, the practise is a one of the few shows that is not an insult to our faculty of reasoning. Unfortunately, I haven't watched it in the last one month. X-files anyone? I don't like the new path the show is taking. I missed the last episode. Can anyone give me a gist of what happened? BTW, can anyone set the parameters of success as it pertains to somali women? I was thinking about the title of this thread....and just thought i might inquire. Last but not the least, allow me to share the below with ya'll. Anas ibn Malik (may Allah be pleased with him) relates that the Holy Prophet (may the blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: "Whoever prays fajr in congregation and remains seated, remembering Allah until sunrise, then performs two rak'aat, it will be for him as the reward of a complete, complete, complete, Hajj and Umra." (Tirmidhi) Once again, the generosity of The Most Generous continues to amaze us . . . Pray fajr in a group, then remain in your place remembering Allah, reading or memorizing Quran, talking about Allah, His Prophet, His Religion, contemplating all the gifts Allah has given you, making dua . . . Just fill the time from after fajr until about 20 mins. after sunrise with ANY KIND of remembrance of the Most High . . . and then pray two rak'aats . . . You will have the reward of standing at Arafaat without even having moved from your prayer rug!!! Another incentive: The time after dawn prayer is amazingly blessed. Really, just try to do anything at this time and you will see . . . You get many more times the work done, it stays in your memory better, you feel peace in your soul, and your day just feels different . . . A complete, complete, complete Hajj and Umra!!! . . . If this is the reward promised for everyday . . . How then will it be in the month of generosity, Ramadan!!! salaam.
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| | Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 08:49 am Trauntlabgirl- thanks for the hadith! I found it very interesting- and as a major sinner (ie. human)- I seriously hunt down any "extra" ajir! But let me ask a question: I thought that praying after fajr (ie when the sun is rising) was not allowed. For example, the sunna raka's before the fajr prayer is prayed before the actual fajr prayer- to avoid offering prayers during the rising of the sun. Below are 2 hadiths from Sahih Bukhari: "The Prophet forbade praying after the Fajr prayer till the sun rises and after the 'Asr prayer till the sun sets." "Allah's Apostle said, "When the (upper) edge of the sun appears (in the morning), don't perform a prayer till the sun appears in full, andwhen the lower edge of the sun sets, don't perform a prayer till it sets completely. And you should not seek to pray at sunrise or sunset for the sun rises between two sides of the head of the devil (or Satan)." Thoughts?
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| | Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 08:50 am Oh almost forgot- re: the snow- Pray for it from New York - south to North Carolina- see- I want all my neighbors to enjoy the time off!!!!
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| | Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 09:35 am Is it just me or are our sisters becoming more spiritual? Wake up boys! The girls are superseeding you in all arenas! Are TLG and Trauntlabgirl the same person? Just curious.
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| | Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 11:27 am Just wondering how you guys feel about someone claiming to be your president and therefore speaking on your behalf? Did anyone of you out there participated or was in approval of such representation? Just wondering if it can be said that there were elections in somalia while only 2000 old-military regime that run the show? wonder who hand-picked the siyaads cronies? Just wondering that there are no people who can lead in somalia apart from those who held high positions in siyaad's government? Just wondering that a "government" in somalia can have an opposition like any other democratic country as if somalia is any other country? Just wondering how many generals, colonels were in arta, wonder what was their average age? Just wondering that there can be "members of parliament" who claim to be representing people, wonder who elected them? Just wondering that a "consistitution" for somalia was written by a group of alcoholics which is "the constitution for somalia"? Just wondering who chooses president for somalia? UN, OAU, or any intergovernmental organisations or the whole population of somalia? Just wondering that "the government for somalia" with all its MPs live, work, represent its people between two hotels, and a road to the airport to the usual delegation travel to other countries? Just wondering what happened to the much talked about reconcialiation achieved and between which communities did the reconciliations occur? Just wondering who were killing their own "MPs"? Just wondering who keeps printing fake somali shillings? Just wondering that UNDP is acting like it has a partner in somalia in the form of a "government" while closing its eyes to the reality? Wonder whether is a quick way to be "accountable" for funds used in somalia? Just wondering how much money has been paid or promised to be paid to Somalinet by the arta group? Just wondering what is the similarities of Somalinet, Benadir, hiiraan and Somaligov websites?
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| | Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 11:59 am Asalama Caleykum wa Raxmatullahi wa Barakatu! To Trauntlabgirl: Thank you so much for that Hadith.It is a blessing indeed to have something worthwhile such as that to commit to memory now.I am also relieved to find that one can earn the reward equivalent to that of performing a complete Hajj and Umra combined.I have two questions however and in advance please excuse any ignorance that may come with them. First,since the Hadith states that the Fajr prayer is to be done in Jamacah... Does that mean that those of us who pray singularly but still take the time to fill the moments that follow the Fajr prayer with praise of Allah and Muhammad(pbuh),recitation of the Qur'an or Hadith etc...do not receive the same reward? What if that situation of praying alone cannot be helped? To Caraweelo: Thank you also for the Hadith.Oh yeah I never got to thank you for a Hadith you quoted Abu Hureira(I think)saying...about Allah's mercy and how only 1% of it is on Earth and that is why His creatures have mercy on each other and the other 99% was with Him on His throne to be used on the Day of Judgement...that really made my day.It was profoundly uplifting!It was very kind of you to share that with us.As for me,I am realizing more and more that there is a great need within me to educate myself on a more in depth level with Hadith...it is clearly not one of my strengths.May Allah shower the east coast with snow and nothing but snow! To Deeqa: I can see all that cheerfulness has made you sick to your stomach and seeing that we are in a holy month,I will grant you that wish!You can of course pay me in full later for this particularly kind service..lol!As for the weeks to come,I will work my behind off and try to accumulate as much 'ajar'from the month of Ramadan as I possibly can.Although I wish I could go somewhere else other than here...I guess everywhere else is colder than here and me being the very last person to vote for snow..I would probably be better off staying put! I'm just wondering if any of you can suggest any good books or compilations of the Hadiths, interesting books on the commentary of the Qur'an etc.Just anything would help at this point... you all get 'ajar',and we all have one less ignorant muslim sister on our hands...See everyone wins!!! Oh I was listening to Surah Saba and the following two ayas(70-71) just stopped me cold in my tracks...they're absolutely beautiful.This is the translation,however,to those of you who can speak Arabic or even broken and fractured Arabic like yours truly...then I would recommend reading it for yourself...it sounds much more breath taking in Arabic. O ye who believe! Fear Allah and make your utterance straight forward: That He may make your conduct whole and sound and forgive your sins:he that obeys Allah and His Messenger,has already attained the Great Victory. May Allah bless us all.May He shield us from anguish, lies, deception, heartache, doubt and most of all sadness. May the Supreme instead continuously guide us to Siraatal Mustaqiim. May He fill the rest of our days on Earth with joy,laughter,peace and good will.And in the hereafter may He make us long awaited Dignified Guests of His Heavens who shall be adorned in gold and silk! Until next time,peace,love and craziness to you all! Lady Jane.
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| | Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 12:59 pm I think this is the best page on Somalinet. So much witty repartee. Like a 19th century Parisian art salon. I better get out before I ruin it! Xoogsade
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| | Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 01:59 pm Asalaamu calaykum everyone. Cajabo, Truantlabgirl and Lady Jane: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you girls for some of the most beautiful words and sentiments yet. May Allah grant your prayers...for all our sakes. Except the prayer about the snow. Are you guys nuts!? Oh I get it! Ya'll have cars in your split-level houses in suburbia. Well, I have to take the bus every morning and slog through thigh-high snow to get to classes okay? So please, lets not wish for snow... what's wrong with balmy weather I ask you? What's the point of getting off work if you're going to be stuck at home anyways, because the weather is so foul? Caraweelo: This question is getting to be more complex by the second. No, there's no sura that starts with two bismillah's, to the best of my knowledge... just Al-Naml has a complete bismillah in the middle, and I think that's what the question meant. Correct me if I am wrong. About my age: A lady never.... Truantlabgirl: oops! sorry sis, I just forgot, I wasn't being mysterious: no I don't live in Toronto, but I might like to sometime in the future insha'allah. The bright lights and noise of big city life is beckoning... Lady Jane: Naturally I will reimburse in full for services rendered. Just say the word and I'll give you a generous helping of melancholy and systemic gloominess (my specialty!). Al-Bukhari's compilation of the hadiths is a standard text for Muslims who want to look up authentic hadiths without someone else's interpretations. Since there are many volumes though, you'll probably want the.......oooh can't remember the title. I will go check and let you know ASAP. Last night (way past midnight) I was slogging through that thigh-high snow I mentioned when I heard pitiful meows coming from the neighbor's backyard, I looked over the fence and saw a cat apparently stuck to a hockey net. So I snuck in through the fence, heart bounding, sure that at any minute the residents would mistake me for a burglar and have me arrested. "But it doesn't matter", I told my bounding heart, "you'll save a poor distressed creature, stuck here, possibly till it freezes to death!" So heroically, keeping an ear cocked for any sound from the house, I carefully untangled the cat from the net. Then the cat and I stared at each, unblinking, in magical communion that transcended species. All was silent, the snow fell softly on the cat's glistening coat. Then the little bastard reached out and nearly tore my nose off. So don't ask what the bandage is for. And my name is Quixote from now on. Xoogsade: So you've been to a 19th century Parisian art salon?
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| | Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 07:51 pm caraweelo was dhilo last year. she seems wadaad this year.......where is the descrepancy guys? can anyone tell me what happen to her? she seems sh no longer plays with men........
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| | Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 11:39 pm salamu calykum Mr. just wondering you're going to wonder all your life. Girls keep doing what your doing, before ramadan ends I am going to get my two dollar education from the public library...Since I am taxi driver and can't get a higher education with this income(no offense Alex you were intellectually blessed from the start)... Top of that I just found out that I only use the left side of my Brian. I guess Allah knew if he lets used both sides that we will be commending greater sins than the once we are doing right now. So I am going to send a latter to Intel, and see if they can put Pentium III prosseser in the right side.Lets hope that my neurotransmitters are y2k comparable. While you ladies and gentlemen are full of wisdom and advise can you swing some financial advise on my way. It seems like the big corporations and credit card companies get a conspiracy against me. Just when I thought I am going to live comfortably with my little salary. I am got bombarded with phone calls and they are asking when am I going to pay my Visa, Mastercard and the AmericanExpress bills and that is not all here comes the phone the cable and the internet provider.(anybody know good corporate lawyer). I am afraid even if I die on my way to havean I will get letter saying your monthly amount of $49.99 is due..ohh yeah they will never say $50 just to make you feel batter is always $49.99. In the other hand maybe I am just paranoid and this Kahunnas know the Republicans are coming and the booming economy is going to down like California mud slide..there goes the formative action To Papa Thanks for letting me know all the money I send to my cousin, so he can travel to Kenya and get some containers to keep clean water in, is going to high tech. Most likely he got the new samsung digital pcs....and every time he flip's it will be saying "Who would you like to call?" I know he will calling end of the month asking for money. For sure he is going to tell me how OMO is working better with the clean water and his shirts are whiter then white.... Lady Jan pls don't check my grammer.. ramadan karim to all of you
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| | Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 05:49 am Salaams everyone! What a witty discusions we have here!!! Just a Thought, points well taken, however, I don't agree with your point "The few who have achieved to bring in telecommunication in to the country should not be admonished but rather be praise for their little contribution to the society which now makes it easier than before to communicate with one another" Bro, I fail to see why I have to praise someone who is out to make a buck or two for himself??? I tend to praise those who have alturistic motives and a sense of responsibility towards the public good. Deeqa, I flunked that quiz, big time, time for remdial action. Could you make it easy and just post the answers? Pleeeeeeeeeeze. x-friend, reflect on what you wrote. And ask forgiveness. Don't ever judge a book by its cover!!! What you wrote couldn't be farther from the truth. I know for sure. Ramadaan kariim
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| | Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 06:05 am Deeqo- LOL! You made my day! Sorry about your nose But remember our Prophet told us that kindness to animals leads us to paradise! The Prophet said, "A man saw a dog eating mud from (the severity of) thirst. So, that man took a shoe (and filled it) with water and kept on pouring the water for the dog till it quenched its thirst. So Allah approved of his deed and made him to enter Paradise." So, bandage up the nose (which you already did)- apply the neosporin (a must if you don't want to scar) and keep helping the cats, dogs, etc etc etc.... you might just beat us all to Jannah! X-Friend: Let me ask you a question. Why is it that when somalis hear a woman voice any "open" thoughts- she is labeled a "dhilo" and the minute she utters a hadith or two she is a "wadaad". Dear X-Friend, I am neither a "dhilo" nor a "wadaad" but a normal woman. I agree with some traditional thoughts and I vehemently disagree with other cultural norms. Is that too much for you to comprehend? Do you only like to deal with cartoon caricatures that are either black or white? And why, in this holy month of Ramadan, do you want to insult someone you don't even know in real life. Don't let the little devils take advantage of you. Remember in Ramadan, the main shaytaan is chained but all his minions are running about wreaking havoc! Read the following hadith (sahih al-bukhari): A bedouin urinated in the mosque and the people ran to (beat) him. Allah's Apostle said, "Do not interrupt his urination (i.e. let him finish)." Then the Prophet asked for a tumbler of water and poured the water over the place of urine. See the ultimate kindness. someone was committing a terrible act- urinating in a mosque. But our Prophet (pbuh) was so kind that he did not even want this man to be interrupted. See, during Ramadan- I try to emulate the good. And also- A man came to Allah's Apostle and said, "O Allah's Apostle! What do you say about a man who loves some people but cannot catch up with their good deeds?" Allah's Apostle said, "Everyone will be with those whom he loves." So even if I am "dhilo" but I love/admire those who do perfect deeds- there is hope for me! :-) Lady Jane- A wonderful compilation of many types of hadiths (including Bukhari and Muslim- the two main compilers of the most accurate hadiths) is "Riyadh al Saalihiin" (2 volumes)- One thing I found is that to start your quest in learning about our glorious religion- is to begin with the Quran. I prefer translation by Pikhtal- he includes relevant hadith as footnotes. Once you get an understanding of the "forest" then you can research the hadiths for details. Remember the hadiths are based on someone relating an act or an advice from the Prophet. So as with anything "human"- it is not perfect and should not lead your quest. And one other thing- don't focus so much on the "don'ts" that you forget about Allah's Perfect Kindness and MERCY! On a lighter note: thanks for the prayer for snow- Partial success...we got tons of ice! Yippie! But still I worry for how Deeqa is faring- not only does she have to contend with the treacherous walk through this stuff- she stops by to help stray animals!!!!!
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| | Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 06:07 am Hi there Xaali- You must have posted right as I was- thanks for the kind words! And welcome back- We missed you!
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| | Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 06:27 am Hey X-friend #@#@# your language please. She was not and is not what you said, she was just having some intellectual conversion with some of the men and some not so intellectual conversation with one of the men. Nothing ha change it’s Ramadan and they are talking about Ramadan and Religion. If you can’t handle the lecture cut the class like I’m doing and come back when reproduction lecture starts. We have room for one jerk here, and that job is currently occupied by your truly Alex. Thank you Alex
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| | Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 06:31 am Ok Grammar teacher I should have said yours not your. Nothing ha change to has changed. I hate proof reading. Proof reading is for prefect people.
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| | Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 06:43 am Trauntlabgirl Thank you for the prayers. I need it. I will not sue you. I have forgiven to all and I hope people have forgiven me. I would have wished that the creditors have forgiven me, but I know I have a fat chance. Thank you. Sheekh Alex.
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| | Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 06:55 am Let it snow Let it snow Let it snow.......
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| | Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 08:25 am MR.WABS OR ALEX.....DID YA EVER HEARD OF "XERO WADA UL AH MID LAQAATANA MA LEH" WELL THAT REFERS TO UR STUPID, MISUNDERSTANDING, CONFUSING, UGLY COMMENTS THAT U HAVE STATED.....BUT RATHER CAN NOT BE READ NEITHER BE UNDERSTOOD. BESIDE PPL DON'T HAVE THE TIME OF THE WORLD TO READ THAT CRAP NEXT TIME....MAKE SURE TO MAKE IT ONE PARAGRAPH INSTEAD OF AN ISU.
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| | Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 08:56 am X-friend. Al-Isra (Sura17:53) Say to My servants that they should (only) say those things that are best: for Satan doth sow dissensions among them: For Satan is to man an avowed enemy. ---------------- Carawelo, Not all Somalis share that view. I know there are some elements of our culture that are retrogresive, whereby an "Open minded" woman is viewed with contempt (I mean open minded in a good way, coz it can be interpreted in different ways). Thus culture has been used as a control mechanism to keep them in their place. But then I dont think the somali culture has a monopoly on this. The only way we can discard this backward and unjust system based on culture is to return to a way of life that was prescribed to us by our creator. Everything that we gain in this world is by the grace of Allah, and on judgement day we will all be asked how we used those blessings that were bestowed upon us. Everything is a blessing , even though we might not realise it to be as such. We are all blessed in different ways. Some of us are poor some are wealthy and some are educated while others are not. To use our blessing in an unjust way or to brag about our blessings would be a great error indeed. We have all seen many instances where power, education and wealth have all been used as tools for exclusion and exploitation. Let us use our blessings wisely and in a manner that would benefit all. Lets not only think of our individual needs but also that of the community at large. Ramadhan Karim !
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| | Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 09:19 am becaues they scared that you will cut their dick and think that it's sausage
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| | Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 09:40 am Somegirl WABS is not here and has not been seen r for a long long long long time. I have no idea where you got his name from, I believe we have a complete communication breakdown. You said that I should write one paragraph next time. Are you nuts! I hardly write a complete and grammatically correct sentence. If I could write a whole paragraph I would have been taking old English class by now. Let us start over. Hi I’m Alex NOT WABS. Let us connect again.
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| | Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 10:44 am Good point PaPa- It is worthy for us to reflect on our blessings. True our culture does not have a monopoly in "keeping women in their place"- all cultures do it in one form or another. Alex- Thanks- and you are not a @#$% far from it... from all that you write it is clear that you are a gentleman...albeit... in disguise! and by the way ....how come- if you are a cabbie- you have time to access the PC- unless your cab is equipped with a laptop...maybe.... Princess- LOL!!!! thanks....but still I remember sister deeqa trudging through the snow (sic..ice) handling the cat..... DuH- again- huh?
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| | Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 11:41 am Carawello I Have a Question.Refeerence to the Hadith you told,which i had heard when i was in Duksi.It's about the Dog tale.If Prophet Moh'd (PBUH),gave entrance to Paradice to a man who gave a Dog Water to relieve its Thurstyness,What is the Rationale behind the illegalisation of A Dog...or..sorry i shouldn't use the legal word...ok....Sin -isation of a Dog as Haram?I know there is a tale connected to its origin but i forget.Do you understand the Rationale of this particular Hadith? You can say its Kindness,but dont you think Its over Barnished? The Dog?
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| | Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 06:31 pm Asalaamu calaykum everyone, So, Bush's the presidential elect. Elated? Bummed? Couldn't care less after so long? At least America's flirtation with manic depressive disorder is over. Personally, although I am not living in the States, I couldn't help feeling a little disappointed. And yes, I *know* Leiberman is Jewish. BTW, wasn't Gore uncharacteristically personable? He looked more cheerful and easy-going conceding defeat than he did at anytime during the campaign. Alright, enough politics (I don't know what got into me anyway) Caraweelo: Thank you sis, for your concern and advice. It appears you're the only one who gives a darn about my permanent disfigurement (neosporin ain't gonna help *this* baby) at the "hands" of that malevolent little beast. Yes I am feeling sorry for myself. On top of intense breathing difficulties (it's not funny--YOU try inhaling cold air through shredded nostrils), I have to contend with mountains of snow (and I am not exactly statusque), exams, and a rapidly souring relationship with the university's financial department. But thank you for the hadiths on kindness to animals. I will try not to let that furball's sheer ungratefulness make me cynical about animals. Oh by the way, I totally agree with you about Alex. He has this way of being absolutely infuriating one minute, and completely endearing the next. I am thinking, Diagnosis: schizophrenia. And I too always wondered how come he finds time to post here when he's also driving a cab. Hmmmm. Princess: (although I find your sentiments regarding the weather nearly unforgivable). I hope you don't mind if I try to give one reason for why the apparent contradiction: First of all, we Somalis rather exagerate the evils of canines. There are actually conditions under which dogs are "legal" to own, for example hunting dogs and guard dogs (and maybe guide dogs). We know this because there are regulations on how to hunt with dogs, etc. As long as they serve a purpose other than as pets, and you don't keep them inside the house proper, dogs are okay. It's keeping them as pets that's not allowed: and I think it might be health-related (dogs carry many diseases) and another reason is that (I heard) the dog might scare off people (family, the needy, neighbors). Please correct me if I am wrong. Hannibal, For what it's worth, I am sympathizing with you re your financial difficulties. Fortunately I have no credit card debts to worry about. Alxamdullilah. Xaali, Sure sis. I'll post the answers (at the end of Ramadan), that way everybody can try to answer them before the "deadline" (Eid). BTW, HEY EVERYBODY IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A QUIZ IN THAT YOU HAVE TO DO IT IN ONE SITTING. Try to print it out, work on the questions at home. Most of these questions are not critical indicators of how much you know about Islam. They are just meant to spark your interest and allow you to learn more as you do the research. Asalaamu calaykum and Ramadan mubaarak everyone.
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| | Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 06:39 pm Alex: I just remembered. No, you can't not write the quiz because a family member died. All the more reason to try to gain a little more ajar, knowledge about Islam and remembrance of Allah, and reflect on your own mortality. Nice try :-)
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| | Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 06:42 pm aslamu calukom I am silent reader and let me say, I found you guys intriguing, wonderful, funny and crazy(in good way). I have one question tough. Why don't you guys give Mr Hannibal a chance. he is trying to fit in unlike the rest of us who just read and leave. To lady Jane will you marry me
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| | Friday, December 15, 2000 - 05:06 am Girls is this discussion highly exclusive? 'Cause people are trying hard to join in. Anyways, have a nice holiday and hope you pass all of your exams. Lucky for some, mine start mid january, so unfortunately I will be revising for most of the holidays.
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| | Friday, December 15, 2000 - 05:07 am P.S. are you all in the US?
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| | Friday, December 15, 2000 - 05:11 am Salaam all, It is Friday! We are approaching the last 10 days of Ramadhan. I once read somewhere that the first part of Ramadhan is mercy, the second part forgiveness and the last part protection from the hell fire. Laylatul Qadar, the night of power, is in the odd nights within the last 10 days. The prophet(sAW)told to say on this night, "alahuma innaka a'fuwn tuhibul a'fwaa fa'fua'nii" which roughly translates to "oh Allah forgiveness belongs to you and you love to forgive, so forgive me" Carawello, So, the snow did finally come eh? BTW, I don't think the hadith about prayer after Fajar contradicts the one's you mentioned. As long as you pray after the sun has clearly risen then I think it is ok...but will check up on this and get back to you, insha Allah. You know the dog story you mention, I thought it was a woman and not a man. I could be wrong though. Could you please look it up? Deeqa, sniff sniff...i'm touched by your story...the cat and the snow...you are adorable:-)Good luck with the exams. Lady J, check this site out. http://www.islaam.com Go to the audio section and select speakers. Some English speaking lecturers u might want to listen to are Bilal Phillips and Yahya Ibrahiim. When I first started "re-learning" Islam(last year), this places was the best. Still is. Sheikh Alex, you are welcome bro...you always in my prayers...just don't ask me to pray for an exemption from that quiz...Deeqa will cut off my air supply. Princess, how is your relationship with 'em books? Have u finished you exams yet? Good luck with the exams. Lastly, another hadeeth:-) am I overwhelming you guys? Just let me know when i'm overboard. I have finished exams, so i'm trying to busy myself. I know some are still writing exams ..ouch...hehehe The Muslim Repents and Turns Back to Allah: From Abu Sa'eed al-Khudree (radiyallaahu 'anhu) who said that Allaah's Messenger said: The example of the believer with regards to eemaan is like the example of a horse with regards to its tethering stake; it roams around and then returns to its tethering stake, and the believer is negligent and then he turns to his eemaan. So feed the pious with your food and treat the believers well. Reported by Ahmad (3/38,55) Hadeeth qudsi: "O son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me and put your hope in Me, I will forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. O son of Adam, if your sins were to reach the clouds of the sky, and you were to ask me for forgiveness, I will forgive you and I shall not mind. O son of Adam, if you were to come to Me with sins nearly the size of the earth, and you were to meet Me not associating anything with Me, then I would bring you forgiveness nearly the size of (the earth)." (Reported by al-Tirmidhi; Saheeh al-Jaami’, 4338). Abu Moosa reported that the Prophet(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to recite the following du’aa: "Oh Allaah, forgive me for my sin. My ignorance and my transgression (in keeping my duty to You), and whatever You know about me better than I do. O Allaah, forgive me for sins committed in earnest and in jest, by mistake and deliberately, and I have done all of that. O Allaah, forgive me for what I have done in the past and what I will do in the future, what I have done in secret and what I have done openly, and whatever You know about me better than I do. You are the One Who raises and lowers people’s status, and You are Able to do all things)." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 5919, and Muslim, 4896. This version reported by Muslim). salaam.
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| | Friday, December 15, 2000 - 05:17 am Grammer teacher..aka.. Lady J... Please have mercy on me...I noticed a few weird looking words/sentences :-) BTW, I'm in Science...and they say that we(and the Engineers) can't spell. Except for a few gifted ones.
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| | Friday, December 15, 2000 - 07:55 am Asalamu Caleykum. #1 Fan Hannibal is already a member of the village. I’m working of forming a Fanatical Anonymous group, just like Gambler’s anonymous or alcoholic anonymous so far him and I are members. He doesn’t have to tray anything hard all someone needs to do is start to talk about something REASONABLE it’s just nowadays we are having Religious classes. As a matter fact we are having a membership drive. Checks should be addressed to: Alex and Company LTD C/O Washington DC. Rose: What a beautiful name let me give you the locations of some of the folks in the Village. Lady Jane AKA” The grammar teacher” is in Seattle Washington. She is Communications major, Technical writer and writes brilliantly. Deeqo: The Lovely Deeqo is in Canada. Caraweelo : I don’t know, but I suspect planet Venus. Princes Guinerve: I have no idea. Maybe is Princes Diana reincarnated? TLG: I don’t know her either. Somali Yankee: As the name implies he is from New York. Nasir is from Coulombs Ohio. And I’m poor and stuck in Washington DC.
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| | Friday, December 15, 2000 - 08:16 am There goes again Alex flirting with Deeqa. lol "Deeqo: The Lovely Deeqo is in Canada."...lol Deeqa hope you dont go balistic... it is ramadhan remember.
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| | Friday, December 15, 2000 - 08:56 am Ramadan Kariim all- yep! It is the start of the last 10 days, so let us multiple our efforts! TLG- the hadith on the dog is from Sahiih Bukhari and it is definitely re: a dog. There is another with a woman and a cat- but I could not find it that day. And may Allah bless you for the wonderful hadiths you posted re: forgiveness (always my favorite!) Rose: Welcome and please jump right in- this is not a private discussion- we just "talk" too much! Princess: re: your question (Major caveat- I am not a religious scholar) about the dogs. This is a very intersting topic to me. Here is how I reason. We know Allah created all of creation and by that simple fact they are all pure. Now, Allah told us to avoid certain animals for a reason- ie. not to eat pigs- sometimes we know these reasons sometimes we don't. Now, where did the "shunning" of dogs originate. We know, as Deeqa explained, that the Arabs- during the prophet's time used to hunt with dogs- and had dogs around them as pets. Please note that I will quote only hadiths from Bukhari and Muslim. Here is a hadith that proves this point. Narrated 'Adi bin Hatim: I asked the Prophet (about the hunting dogs) and he replied, "If you let loose (with Allah's name) your tamed dog after a game and it hunts it, you may eat it, but if the dog eats of (that game) then do not eat it because the dog has hunted it for itself." I further said, "Sometimes I send my dog for hunting and find another dog with it. He said, "Do not eat the game for you have mentioned Allah's name only on sending your dog and not the other dog." Also here is a hadith that shows us that dogs used to live with arabs during the prophet's time. Narrated Hamza bin 'Abdullah: My father said. "During the lifetime of Allah's Apostle, the dogs used to urinate, and pass through the mosques (come and go), nevertheless they never used to sprinkle water on it (urine of the dog.)" Then there was a few hadith's that mentioned that the angel's did not enter the houses with dogs. Narrated Abu Talha I heard Allah's Apostle saying; "Angels (of Mercy) do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or a picture of a living creature (a human being or an animal)." and: Narrated Salim's father Once Gabriel promised the Prophet (that he would visit him, but Gabriel did not come) and later on he said, "We, angels, do not enter a house which contains a picture or a dog." Another hadith re-modifies the question re: the pictures: Narrated Busr bin Said That Zaid bin Khalid Al-Juhani narrated to him something in the presence of Said bin 'Ubaidullah Al-Khaulani who was brought up in thehouse of Maimuna the wife of the Prophet. Zaid narrated to them that Abu Talha said that the Prophet said, "The Angels (of Mercy) do not enter a house wherein there is a picture." Busr said, "Later on Zaid bin Khalid fell ill and we called on him. To our surprise we saw a curtain decorated with pictures in his house. I said to Ubaidullah Al-Khaulani, "Didn't he (i.e. Zaid) tell us about the (prohibition of)pictures?" He said, "But he excepted the embroidery on garments. Didn't you hear him?" I said,"No." He said, "Yes, he did." And there is another hadith that tells the story of the angels enterance into a home- Narrated 'Aisha I purchased a cushion with pictures on it. The Prophet (came and) stood at the door but did not enter. I said (to him), "I repent to Allah for what (the guilt) I have done." He said, "What is this cushion?" I said, "It is for you to sit on and recline on." He said, "The makers of these pictures will be punished on the Day of Resurrection and it will be said to them, 'Make alive what you have created.' Moreover, the angels do not enter a house where there are pictures.'" Note there is no mention of dogs. Some may argue that this is so because the Prophet was refering to the pictures in this instance and not dogs. The Quran, which is complete in its outline of all things forbidden, mentions dogs as pets. The quran does not forbid us to be around dogs. The Cave 18:18 Thou wouldst have deemed them awake, whilst they were asleep, and We turned them on their right and on their left sides: their dog stretching forth his two fore-legs on the threshold: if thou hadst come up on to them, thou wouldst have certainly turned back from them in flight, and wouldst certainly have been filled with terror of them. So basically, we know that angels may not visit homes with dogs. Do we know why? not really. We also know that many kept dogs for pets and hunted with them. To answer your question, based on my humble opinion- dogs are Allah's creation. We should treat them with kindness. TO avoid excluding angels from entering our homes, we should not let them sleep in our homes. There is nothing excluding them as pets. Maybe as a "guard dog" only? or outdoors. Sorry for the long post- I was trying to really answer the question. Also during the weekend I will research this further.- See, I really love dogs. alright- I think I need to sign off now.
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| | Friday, December 15, 2000 - 09:25 am DeeQa.....looool Unforgivable - Please Forgive me....lol..I just love snow...I bought a nice Cream color hat and it just suits Me well when snow falls over my hat.Ya know..lol....and the Gloves lool...cool. Anyway on the topic in Hand,I must disagree Deeqa for the acception reasons you gave for Muslims to own a dog.Why? Because,i believe the major reason agaist having dogs is connected with Hygene.So if you own a dog for that reason of Hunting or Guarding,dont you think its Major Likely the dog will come in contact with you at some degree?Thats Najiis right?So i hardly think there is an acception.My curiousity was,maybe Fundamentally based on the Hadith.If Our Prophet (PBUH) was so overwehelimngly touched by the kindness of the man who gave the dog water,and........and....for this reason promised the man the Paradise,dont you think that a dog might not be that bad?Islam regards dogs as compulsively Taboo.My question is should we?Ok...you might say....its a Hygene matter!But....Have you seen what chickens eat?The dirt around them?Yuk? Trauntlabgirl ...thanx for the well wish good luck...same to you! Alex:....You have no idea?...I'm stunned! Lady Jane: lool Are you writing a diary?Dear Diary.........! It seems it involves your daily schedules and Tea charts.Forgive me your Grace....looool Everyone else.....Heloooooooooooo !
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| | Friday, December 15, 2000 - 09:50 am Just a thought brother you know that Deeqa and I have been known for more then a year now, and as you know they say NAAGI NINKEY TAQAAN NIN UMA HAYSATO”. Brother I believe you still have a chance it’s Holiday season people who don’t have a significant other feel particularly lonely. I have thrown the football to you once already and you have fumbled. Don’t worry we have two more chances before we either tray a field gold or punt. I would prefer if you catch the DAM ball for once. OPS brother, wait until after the Ramadan. Deeqa: I Alex official request to drop from this class. Give me my” W “I will take the class with an easy teacher. I will take next semester with the Princess where I know I can get an easy C. Deeqa and Caraweelo I access the net through my lab top and sometimes at home when I can get my roommate off the chat line. About the dog. I Think she was a woman and a JEW prostitute, who one day saw a thirsty dog and gave the dog water. Am I correct on this? Princes I have no idea of what? Bye to all of you and be nice to each other and have a great weekend.
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| | Friday, December 15, 2000 - 11:10 pm salam caylkum To: Alex thank you brother for sending #1 fan straight. since my knowledge of the religion is limited, I am learning thanks to this wonderful ladies here and by the end of ramadan I should have C- in this class.. To #1 fan wait till after Ramadan..... To: Deeqa Thanks for sympathizing with me and your lucky girl.. The only two word I knew was charge it and it caught up with me.. Breaking News I know a guy, Who knows a guy no names. He told me the next six months death rows electricity bill is going up by 45% and if Bush stay in power the next eight years all of then will be shut down... That is not all my friend the green house gas is going up too.You better get your oxygen tanks ready... This is between us tough.. keep it hash hash..
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| | Saturday, December 16, 2000 - 02:11 am Salaamu caleykum, I got into this page by accident and I'm glad I did. Beacuse this is the best page, in this forums. the story about the dog and the woman! Alex you are right, but I'm not quite sure that the woman was jewsih. I just know that this woman was a sinner, she was doomed to a life in hell (I think) and everything else you've said is correct. But the part about her beeing jewish I don't know that!! Let me tell you a story it's a hadith!! Let me know thoose of you who have heard it, if I'm wrong ok, thank you...... There was a man who used to live in the time when our beloved prophet (saw) was a live. That man was a learned man ( religously), he was known of the people. So when death was hanging over him, he became sick. So our prophet (saw) told him to say " Ashhada ana leeilaaha illalah wa ashhada ana muxammaden rasulul laha sala laho caleyhe wa salam" ( I'm sorry for the way I've spelled it, but I think you can read it but if not I'll say it in eng)."THERE IS NOW GOD BUT ALLAH AND MUHAMMED IS HIS MESSANGER". And the man he couldn't say it. The prophet (saw) said several times to the man to say it, but the man couldn't.And that made the people wonder. So the prophet(saw) sendt for the mans mother. And when she arrived, he told her to forgive her son, and the mother refused to do that. Then the prophet said(saw) then we shall cremate him after his death. Then the mother cried and said don't cremate my son. Then our beloved prophet(saw) said, you don't let him burn in this fire but you let him burn in the hell fire who is far more misrabele. And the mother forgave her son, and then he could say it. I hope that you guys could catch my bad english... So the reason I tell this story is that, most of you endeavour for god's forgivnes and that my friends is right. But you should also endeavour for your mothers forgiveness. when we do wrong to other persons, we should beg them for forgivenes. I hope I didn't say anything wrong I have a question though.. As a muslim it's a must that you belive in Fate, it's one of the "arkaanul IIman". And I do not say that I don't belive in fate I do. But there is a lot of things that I can't understand about Fate. A man once told me when I asked him about fate, he said that it's very complicated and if you think to much about it you will get crazy. He said that I should belive in Allah and fallow his comands, and honestly I don't have any problems with that, I don't. But I'm the type of person who demands correct answer, and he couldn't answer me, so I wonder if you guys can?? What I have hard time with is.. Allah have given us free will and that free will is limited, and that I don't have any issues with. But the thing is and I'm not sure if I should say it, but it's better if I get it our of my system... What I've learned is that you can't escape your fate you never can, and if your fate is that you'll end up in hell then you can't fight that. So tell me if I'm a good muslim from the bigenning and I'll do everything that's been requested of me, what if it's my fate to end up in hell...... what if. I don't know if I've made what I whana know clearly... but please answer me thoose of you who can. Thank you
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| | Saturday, December 16, 2000 - 02:53 am Hannibal the cannibal what are you going to do with me after ramadan? eat me? Lady jane wil you marry me?
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| | Saturday, December 16, 2000 - 07:59 am Thanks Alex and Carawello and all. You people are superfast, check every half an hour or so or what? Just kidding. Well, seem no one's in England. (Thanks for the short briefing Alex) About Bush winning, not really to pleased but at least here in the uk we won't be too affected. Did anyone hear tony blair's hypocritical speech addressed to Bush and his new government? He says that Britain and America will continue to have a "special relationship" and that they (the British) are proud to call themselves the closest allies of Amarica. In short he was making sure if the US was going to save Britains ass if they ever get into a war. Carawello and TLG thanks for the hadith. I don't know as much as I would like to but keep telling it. Princess, you're so lucky!! I wish it would snow here once and a while, instead all we get is rain and floodings. Suuban, sorry, that question is a little confusing, if you are a good Muslim then you can't possebly go to hell. But then again, i read that somewhere in the Qoran , that no matter what, only thoses that God chooses go to Heaven. So pray God put you in Heaven.
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| | Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 03:27 pm Alex: Um, I was about to reprimand you but I can't remember what for...so, thank Allah for my faulty memory and Ramadan kariim. Fine. Drop the "course". Quitter. Just a thought: Tsk, tsk. Hannibal: LOL. I sympathize even more! #1 fan and Rose: This is not an exclusive village. If you join in and say something that gets attention (without being insulting), you'll almost always get a reply. And the more people the merrier, as long as the quality doesn't go down. Lady Jane: answer #1 fan's question. We are all waiting with bated breath. Princess: Oh alright, if it's for the sake of fashion: let it snow, let it snow. And about the dog thing, read Caraweelo's reply; I couldn't do it nearly as thoroughly as she did. But I would like to know where you got the impression that Islam prohibits dogs "compulsively"? Mostly from Somalia right? I find that most Muslims of other races are not nearly so compulsively prohibitive (in many things!)
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 03:06 am Good day all and Ramadan Kariim. I won't be as verbous today - we have back-to-back mtgs all day so I will be away from the PC most of the day and tomorrow...... I just wanted to but in re: the fate question Suban asked about. Suban- The way I rationalize fate-destiny is quite simple (to keep my sanity!)- Allah (SWT) knows what we will do and who we are before we even figure it out- He has ordained all that will be and all that there is. But here is the catch- HE gave us a special gift- a gift even the angels did not get- the gift of CHOICE! He gave us a "free-will"- HE KNOWS what we will choose BUT the choice is ours. For example, when we are dealing with little kids- that is my specialty (LOL) we preety much know what they will do before they even do it- we see them stuggling with their "decision"- but based on all the information we have- we know what they will decide. And the difference between the child and the adult is miniscule compared to the difference between a Creator and the creation. See, all is pre-ordained but unless we try to do our best we will not reach our true potential- and our true potential is up to us- even though ALLAH knows what it is. I hope I have made sense. It took me a long time to "figure" this out- logically. And about the hadiths re: kindness to animals- there are more than 3 I know of- the one Alex is refering to (the woman of bad character and the dog), there is one about the "good muslim" woman who was sent to hell because of her "unkind" treatment of a cat- and then there is one about a woman and a dog- basically, instead of worrying about the details- let us concentrate on the moral of the stories- which are the same- be merciful to ALLAH's creation. Now let me ask you guys a question- When we die, our soul recieves the rewards it deserves in the grave- ie. punishment for those headed to hell and peace for those headed to heaven. BUT we do not enter hell or heaven until after the day of judgement when all of creation is judged by our Creator. Agreed? Ok, now, how come we hear about someone going to hell or heaven in a hadith? No one is in Hell or Heaven. They are in Barzakh. Besides no one knows the "unseen"- Qaib- except Allah (SWT)- So can someone explain that part to me. It always worried me. I also have a second question- re: when/how the number of salat per day was given to our prophet- but I will save it for later. Take care all, and Ramadan Kariim.
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 07:41 am Ramadan Kariim to all hang in there only this week is left. Suubaan: Am I hearing you correctly that I’m right. Oh my oh my. So all those so-called experts are wrong. I knew I should have asked their credentials. I bet it’s like the Somali currency. #1 Fan for a while you put a sin thought in my mind when you said eat me. Please it’s Ramadan SOONKA HA NAGA FURIN. Rose: You are welcome and Caafi lives in London. Since he is newly met he lost his freedom to log on the net. Poor guy. Deeqo come on please why are you treating my friend just a tough like that? Deeqo I’m dropping the class because they instructors are giving me the wrong information. Look at the dog chapter they had me believe it was a man while all along the case was about a woman. I will wait for a teacher with real credentials. Fist they that he or she shows up in class I will say to him/her “ Show me your credentials.” And believe me I will verify the credentials. Princes how was your weekend? Has anyone seen Lady Jane? I hope she is all right. TLG what is up? Caraweelo: what do you mean let us not worry about the details. I was right it was a she not a he. I bet you hate seeing a brother right of a one lousy time. I might not be a religious scholar, but I do listen to the Xadiis on Fridays. In other words I pay attention in class. Peace.
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 10:38 am Alex you never said where you were at? by the way are you that taxi driver who is everywhere in this forums? p.s. is Lady Jane engaged yet? lol
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 10:44 am Asalama Caleykum wa Raxmatullahi wa Barakatu! Good morning everyone.I hope you all had a pleasant weekend and made good use of your time...Ramadan is nearing its end..sadly! I see a lot has happened since I was last here.Allow me to catch up. To Alex: Thank you for your concern,it was quite touching.I'm quite well thank you,Her Grace has just been significantly preoccupied of late,that's all.I am of the hope that it will not interfere again with our quality time here..lol!Did the bad weather get in the way of making a killing on the weekend or did you manage to get your share of profits over the weekend regardless of Mother Nature's weather tantrums?!Just wondering..you know. To TLG: Thanks for the reference.I should get on it right away.How was your weekend?Good I hope. To Caraweeol: Thanks for all the Hadiths and such detail at that!I might start getting lethargic and forget about doing my own research on Hadiths... I must agree with TLG I heard the same hadith about the dog and this other person..but I was told it was a woman.Of course I didn't look it up.And to add to all the confusion(my favourite role)I heard that the woman was a prostitute!Okay I think I'm starting to walk on the threshold of blasphemy so I'll just stop right here.But at least it was a woman the way I heard it,even though that narration had a bit of a twist! To Deeqa: Please accept my apology.I hardly meant to heighten the suspense.But you will have to read on to find out how this story ends...more suspense!How thrilling! To Princess Guinevre: Forgive me.Truly I hadn't realized that I was incorporating an unbearable amount of detail into my writing.This is a matter of the utmost importance and we must of course do our best to accomodate Her Royal Highness..such that she needn't put up with the gruesome,petty details of the lives of her subjects. Would crawling from Seattle to your mysterious current place of residence suffice as an apology to Her Royal Highness?Please inform me of your preference as I would love to refrain from doing anything to displease you. To #1 fan: I must of course carry on the phrase of the day and say "I'm sorry." I would have answered sooner had I known that I was keeping so many people in suspense.However,I must ask you this.Are you habitual in proposing to women you hardly know in person and have yet to claim a courtship with? I cannot marry you,simply because I would love to be courted before I promise myself to you for the rest of my life.So,I ask you this. Do you wish to court me? PS. Deeqa,I hope that put your mind at ease.lol! Until next time,peace,love and craziness to you all! Lady Jane.
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 11:34 am alex, i am coming to VTECH's ECE department for 2 day grad students conference. if u r around......can we meet?
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 12:52 pm My dear villagers and the colourfull new comers, I wish you all belated Ramadaan Kariim. The village is blooming and that delights me. I like the religious tone that shadow your on discussions. I hope your expressed appetite for religious materials was not induced by the holly month of Ramadan, but rather it is a reflection of your PROGRESS in life. Keep it up! Alex - Mr. happy cab-driver 77- how is your Nigarian single mom plan working out! You know helping a muslim sister in need is a kind of charity work, however charities must always start near your neighbours - No point of helping some one miles away while you are surrounded by the same sort of ordeal. 'seen Caafi & Mullah, lately! Nasir: Ya still kicking? Good to know you are capable of breathing, but I wish you more than that. Ramadan Kariim! Anything going on in your neighbourly city (Columbus OH) for the new year. I might do a little road trip to visit some family members there. To my beloved Queens - Deeqa, Xaali, Caraweelo, Xaali, & Cajabo: It is a joy to my eyes to read some of your writings - not to mention your educational Axadiths. If the state of personal developments of our women is a fraction of yours, I think our society might have a chance. Please forgive us for our shortcomings. Deeqa: Your test will require me to do extensive lit. search. So due to my scarcity in time, I think I'll pass at this time. Thanks for the challenge though. To the countless new prince & princesses that jointed the village, please welcome and make yourself at home. Like my fellow villagers pointed out to you, this is a free cyber euphoria society that only requires good manner and taste for naturalisation. If I don't visit before then, have a happy Eid and new year. Ciao Wabs (MWLP)
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 03:27 pm Welcome back Wabs, There can only be one reason why you are back to the "cabby's column". You must have frozen you ministerial status until further notice in the "newly elected government". Is it because of the insecurity in mogadishu? I thought you believed in any-government whether or not reconciliation took place?
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 03:39 pm I can't say what a breath of fresh air it is reading these posts. After taking a peak at the political posts, I began to wonder what hope there was for Somalia if our internet discussions were as backward as the politics on the ground. However, I must admit that reading these messages also makes one feel as if they are eavesdropping on personal conversations rather than public debates. Each post is directed at a specific person (or often times numerous people). Getting into the conversation is a little bit like jumping on a moving train or perhaps a better analogy would be trying to join a popular clique in high school. So let me get to the point....can I please join your group???...pretty please with sugar on top :-)))) I hope everyone has a blessed Ramadan.
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 04:40 pm Hi everyone! Do you know the depth of an appreciation for a cup of Tea is far beyond common necessities?When i prayed for snow,i only wanted it to be of a certain date where i had to wear my fashion conveniently.Now its snowing and its so unbearable,so Cheers to Grande` Mocha!Perhaps i should have said Let it snow Let it snow..... for just a day! loool DeeQa > Maybe the snow is not a good idea? Alex: My weekend was terribly Academics.Do You wish to know more? Lady Jane: Your Grace, Please pardon my Natural faults.I am most Sturbon,obstinate,Headstrong and Rude ocassionally.I merely intended to light an improvement on Her Grace mode of Revealment.Assured,your Grace that i have nothing to correct upon your ellegant fabrics and attires.Your grace,I hope my ettiquette would not tarnish the Glorious relationship between our Fine Kingdoms! looool
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 03:06 am Good day all and Ramadan Kariim- First and foremost to Hodan: Welcome dear sister and please jump right in. You are right we are sort of back-and-forth with each other- but it is not to exclude anyone. Say anything! To Alex- I think the fasting is getting to you- young man! I said that there are at least 3 different Hadiths re: kindness to animals. THe one I quoted is in Sahiih Bukhari and if you don't believe me visit www.islam.org About the other 2 hadiths- they are NOT sahiih bukhari (or Sahiih Muslim)- but that does not dim their importance in passing on the message. See, when I said let us not focus on the details- I was being kind to you!!!!!! enough said! Princess- yep! I think the heavens were open when you sned forth your prayer re: snow- Now it wont stop! Oh dear......maybe we should have prayed for 4 juni dahab! if you are a xamari you will know what I am talking about! Please someone tell me what happened on "the practice" last sunday- I fell asleep...... newborns tend to have that effect on adults.... WABS- welcome back! Goodness it has been a while. WAZZUP!!!!!
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 08:29 am Good morning to all: Wabs: First I’m not happy to see you back, Secondly I’m a professional driver now. I have attended a school on how to avoid your passengers been kidnapped by terrorists. They have trained us on how to dodge bad people (Just like dodging the bad people at the IRS). Thirdly I hang around Northern Virginia nowadays No more Sisters. Ok Now that I have welcomed you let me tell you something my brother, this train is been driven by you know who some ladies, so I suggest you come and sit with me the back of the train just incase we get involved in a head on collision. You know people at the back seats tend to survive in a head on collision. Which will make you eligible some Mullah from AMTRAK. Where the hell have you been Wabs? Or what brother Just a thought is saying is true now that you guys have been shot at close range you decided to take some months off. Didn’t you guys take the month or Ramadan off already? Anyway welcome and I have not seen Mullah or Caafi. However I suspect Caafi’s I Internet privileges has been suspended. Just a Thought: How are you man? I know you are out there. Rose: Dear Rose I’m a professional driver, I might be behind the wheel all day, but I’m not every where in this form. I don’t know if Lady Jane is engaged yet, but there is a guy who want to hit on here (#1 fan) is his name, but she is playing the usual had to get and #1 fan wants to cut through the mustard and get right to the point. Let us wait and see. If he fumbles the ball just pick up and run with it. On the way you will need to change the way we use to deal with our African American sisters. Somalian women like to be courted, so be cool. SomaliBro: “Houston we have a problem” brother what in the world do you mean can we meet? Do you want me to drive you around the two days that you are in town, or you want me to meet you socially? I’m confused. Hodan: Not only that you can join the group, you can take the bull by the horn if you like. Welcome. Lady Jane: How are you today? I’m glad to see that you are doing just fine. Well Jane the weekend sucked due to the loss to the Redskins. I did not work at all. I hang around Virginia on Saturday went to TASRAAWIIX there then after a long time I went to their gathering place (The Starbuck) They are still debating out there. Last but not the least Caraweelo: Dear all I know is that Suban said that I was right, and that is all I need. They say it takes only one person who has seen the moon to declare the end of Ramadan, and that is the same formula I use. Take care all and wecome back Wabs a member of our somali government and a great welcome to Hodan, What a beautiful name.
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 08:41 am Princes: I hope this coming weekend gets better for you, it’s also a long weekend. What happened maybe I can help?
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 08:54 am Salaams every-one! Wabs, loooooooooooooooooooooong time! Good to hear from you. Hitting them books hard and living in the lab huh Hodan, welcome sis. Jump in and share your thoughts.
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 09:41 am Salaams to my beloved Villagers and new comers, Ramadan Kareem and Eid Mubarak to you all. It's been while since I visited Somali forums and to be honest with you guys I have missed you all. Now that school is over I might get chance to visit and re-open the coffee house.
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 10:32 am Alex I am fine thanks for your concern. Muna Ramadhan Karim to you. Xaali, Did you miss him? I hate to tell you that he hasnt been in the book business for as long as you have missed him but he has been holding his nomination paper from the president ever since Arta concluded. But now infact he is back to his books albait being late. He is been living at constant fear holding the papers checking for the safety of the papers under the pillow every 5 minutes of the night long in the desert. Carawelo if becoming a mini-mullah by the minute. Anyone noticed?
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 11:00 am Just a thought- wait until Eid- the "turban" will come OFF! fast! it is getting kind of stifling... Alex- whatever! Muna- HELLO!!!! and plse get working on re-opening the java-joint, having only one forums to visit is no way to spend time!
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 11:51 am Carawelo Come Eid I will be on the concord to Galkacyo.
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 01:10 pm Just a thought: I did not know the Concord could land in Galkacaya. What do you know everyday I lean a new thing. Caraweelo has been the AYATULAH qumeyni for a long time. To Caraweelo: Do you need a waterboy? Or wait a minute we can have a PAY PER VIEW here. I see $$$$$ Yeh Xaali did you miss him? Hello anyone else behind the bushes?
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 01:50 pm Xaali & Caraweelo: Indeed it has been a long time since we last conversed over this niche of ours. It is getting closer to my completation time of my studies and conclusive data are desperately needed. So living in the lab and losing touch with the outside world became a must. I did really missed the village and its inhabitants. I also like the new comers. Characters like pricess Guinevre, L-Jane, Rose, Suuban and the likes brought a new level of delight to the cave, not to mention fresh blood of independently minded and elite women to the now reformed WAR_H org. Caraweelo: It was interesting to read your posting in regards to hell and heaven and hadiths that talk about people being in hell or heaven. As you know my knowledge in this field is quite limited, but if I were to try to answer your question...."how come we hear about someone going to hell or heaven in a hadith? - Well sister, I think Hadiths - which are the reported lectures of prophet MOHAMED (PBBH)- outline the script of life and deeds of livingthings as Allah knows it. What I mean by this is that Allah knows what our actions will be, just like a play writer will know what the act 11 scene 2 will be before the play is in production. Unlike play writer who has no control or knowledge about what mistake the cast members might make at any given scene, Allah has full knowledge about the events of our life as they progress from start to finish and thus can forecast with 100% percission and accuracy before we even become flesh and blood. Now one would say, then are we in control of our destiny in this carefully constructed and predetermined or pre-ordianted world? And what is the point of striving if we are doomed from the get go? It is my understanding that Allah bestowed upon us free-will and choice - as you outstandingly described - and on top of that intellegence to logically deduce the right path. In addition to these two, Allah never left us alone in the wilderness and provided manual scripts and guidence throughout. We were never asked to blindly follow them nor did Allah physically forced us to follow his guide lines, rather throughout these texts Allah appealled to our sense of intellegence (and free-will) and logically constructed well defined arguments about his existence and our roles in life. Furthermore, Allah provided clear examples as to what will happen if we choose to disobey and ignore the rules he carefully outlined for own good. Now you and I know that not all of us are going to choose the right path. It should also be noted that one earns the RIGHT to go to heaven through good deeds; this prize is only awarded through Allah's mercy and good deeds are prerequist for this mercy. So our obligation is to do the right thing to the best of our ability, to seek the knowledge and the know-how that will enable us to make the right choice and perhaps Allah may award us his mercy to go to heaven. I hope I made sense there. BTW: do you know that aside from the provided Books of Allah (Injiil, Towraad, Quran, etc), that there are other scripts that Allah provided to us for our guidence to make the right choice. Science my dear, as much as it might seem contradiction in terms, is another set of encoded scripts that Allah provided to us in order to proof to us his existence. Quraan = KalimaatuLAAH (i.e the words of Allah). Science = AayaatuLLAAH (i.e signs of Allah). May be this discussion is for another time. Just a thought: no comment to your cheep shot , but thanks for the welcome. We'll talk. Alex: I hear you bro. But I would drive have this ride this with its current drivers than hope to your cab. love ya, bro. Send the search for Mullah and Caafi, would ya! Afar Wanaagsan to the rest of you. bye now Wabs
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 06:45 pm saluma alayku anf ramadan karim To #1 fan I see the only Hannibal you know is the character from Thomes Harris book and the only way you found out is from Bob Goen and Mary hart of Entertainment Tonight. Go to the library in the History section and you will find out the real Hannibal the greatest general in 200 B.C. Even better if you stay here for while you might learn something fro m the rest of the family.. Lady Jane welcome back girl, as you can see my #1 enemy is waiting for you.... Hodan and Rose welcome, just make sure you send your check to Alex and Company LTD C/O Washington DC. He need all the help he can get. The rest of you have good one
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| | Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 06:06 am Hannibal- Great comeback! Alex- so at yrs end, how did your portfolio fare- I hear (not that I invest-) that the mrkt was down by almost 30%...... Just a Thought- LOL! Concorde eh? Maybe if they tear down all the houses.....don't get me wrong I love that mystical town....which reminds me of an old joke. A Xamari man went on assignment (back in the days of the kacaan when ppl were sent all over the map) to Galkacyo. During his trip back, he met another group on their way to Galkacyo. The in-bound travellers asked him about how things were back in their beloved town and more importantly- "Roob ma da'ay?" The Xamari guy looked at them with absolute bewilderment- "Ad roob hadaad ahaan aheyd, galkacyo ma ka da'i lahyd?" :-) WABS- Mansha'Allah- thanks brother for the wonderful explanation. And yes! I agree with you that science gives us the daily affirmation of Allah's signs. Ramadan Kariim to all.
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| | Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 06:31 am Salaams everyone. Muna, welcome back......I thought you were always around the forums since I saw so many posting by "Muna"....some of them out of character if I might add......I gave up on the coffee shop....too much harrasement!! Just a thought and Alex, yep I missed Wabs, one of my favaourite e-dudes Just a thought, is it true what they say about Galkacyo......2 imaan form different clans taking turns to lead Friday prayers, each iman invoking his "people" not to say too much "aamiin" or too loud when the prayer is being led by the other chap Wabs, thanks for the sharing the above.
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| | Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 08:23 am Asalaamu calaykum everyone!!!! The last three exclamation marks are to commemorate the end of my exams. Yippeee! Lady Jane: Beautiful reply. Mind if I borrow some of your phrases for later use? I know they'll come in handy sometime soon Hannibal: Let me see...Hannibal was a famous general from that ancient north African empire (Carthage or Numidia?) who used to terrify the Romans? "Hannibalis ad portas!" I used to enjoy reading about his exploits. But I never heard of a movie about him! What is it called?? Maybe I can watch it over the holidays... Alex: Guess what I am trying to say: first I throw my hands in the air, then I roll my eyes, then I shrug, then I yawn.... If you don't want to answer a few simple questions about Islam, fine. But enough with the lame excuses and silly contingency plans. By the way, how are you doing in this horrible weather? Finding a bite to eat every now and then? [see, I am changing the subject, please humor me]. Wabs: Welcome back brother. I understand, and the quiz wasn't meant to be a burden anyway! Good luck with your research, and no fiddling around with the data to get it to agree with your hypothesis! Remember the "scientific process"? We formulate a hypothesis, conduct the experiment, modify the hypothesis (not the results!), conduct more experiments..... Muna: Welcome back sis. No more coffee, it's the beginning of a beautiful relationship between me and tea (with hayl, mmmmm...) and I don't want *green* tea. LOL. BTW, did you know that caffeine is synthezised by plants to poison off parasitic insects and small mammals? I can just see a little field mouse, bouncing around, nervous and jittery after nibbling on some innocuous-looking plant, wondering why he can't get any sleep. Just a thought: If you're heading for Galkacyo, could you carry word to my maternal grandmother Xaliimo Ciise (she lives near the well), my great-uncle (paternal) Cabdi Maxamed Muuse (tell him his nephew Ilias is fine), and my orphaned cousins Xamdi and Rooble Adan (actually if you wouldn't mind doing a little courier work, there are somethings I would like to send---Dahabshiil is getting expensive). There are more people, but I don't want to confuse you Caraweelo: LOL. How could you? Xaali: [wince] That's entirely possible almost everywhere in Somalia, but especially in Galkacyo.
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| | Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 11:02 am Good Afternoon to all. Deeqo: First let me congratulate you freedom from books and thank you for letting me off the hook for the quiz. Now I can get ready to party for the New Year. Can I get a C since I’m a Moslem? About the weather, I don’t work as I use to. I go to Tarawiix in the evening. I’m paying for more then few bucks. Wabs: I have a favor to ask you. Can you please form ANY Government in Somalia? XAWAALADAHA AL-BARAKAT, AL-AMAL AND DAHABSHIIL are killing my portfolio more than the Stock Market. Thank you Honorable Wabs. Craweelo: Dear I just looked at my portfolio, I tell you this, Xawaaladaha ARE DOING ME IN. Xaali: If Wabs is your favorite, can you tell us who is your least favorite. I bet it’s the girl who stated the holy war long time ago. Oh yeah I bet she is. Take care got to go home for Afur.
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| | Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 01:34 pm Asalma Caleykum wa Raxmatullahi wa Barakatu! To Hannibal: Darn...I was hoping that you were HANNIBAL LECTER..and no I didn't find out about him from Bob Goen and the gang.If it's anything to you,I put in approximately 2.5 hours of my time into agonizing, mind numbing research.... I "watched" the movie for myself.You know,THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS the one starring Jodie Foster and Anthony Hopkins,the very one that won so much critical acclaim and proceeded to clear out the Oscars of '91..I just adored Hopkins' performance...so RIVETING! Whatever happened to your #1 enemy?Hint,hint I think the open-endedness of my reply might have scared him away.On that note,I thought your number one enemy of all time was General Publius Cornelius Scipio??..lol! To Deeqa: Of course,you may borrow some of my phrases.They are at your disposal my dear.I believe in being well-prepared for the BATTLE OF WORDS...you know you can't afford to be SPEECHLESS when the time comes..lol!I presume you're about to start a fire of your own...I smell trouble..lol!However,rest assured that these phrases are timeless and can also be modified according to the pH you want your retort to possess...I say go for a solid pH 1! BTW,I think that Hannibal was originally from Carthage but I think that some of his troops among other diverse ethnic groups came from Numidia...I could be wrong...why speak when the expert himself is here?..lol To Hodan: Welcome aboard! I know it's late.I'm not proud of my conduct...do overlook it dear.As the others already said feel free and just express yourself! So pull up a comfy chair,lay back,relax,light up a nice Cuban Cigar!(maybe)and just enjoy the show! Might I add you sound delightfully innocent...in the best sense of the words! To Alex: Knock,knock anybody home?How are you doing man? Too bad I don't share your plight with the numerous afore mentioned Xawaalado,but not to fret...I do have it in me to sympathize you know..Surprise! To Xaali & Caraweelo: Making fun are we?Well,they were indeed hilarious.I don't know if y'all heard this one but I'm going to give it my best shot here.In advance excuse any spelling mistakes or grammatical errors I may make...tis not one of my strengths! A reer Xamar guy returned from a trip to Galkacyo and he was asked by relatives I suppose about his trip and what he had come across in Galkacyo.The man had only this to say.."Galkacyo waxaas waaye meel oo dagaxa xaata uus ku gardareysanaayo!" Hope you could understand folks. To Princess Guinevre: Her Ladyship is confused.Is Her Royal Highness offering Your Grace an armistice? If so,Your Grace gladly accepts and understands Her Royal Highness' reasons for doing so. If not,then please proceed to enlighten Your Grace on your intentions.Since,the content of Her Royal Highness' letter involved both the tone of urgent seriousness and flippant humourous remarks,Your Grace knows not what to make of your letter as a whole!Your Grace only seeks to avoid confusion of any fashion and hence once again requests that Her Royal Highness express herself with more clarity and frankness!Good day and God speed. Until next time,peace,love and craziness to you all! Lady Jane.
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| | Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 01:43 pm salum calykum To Deeqa They didn't make a movie about Gen. Hannibal . There is book call Hannibal by Thomas Harris. The sequel of the (silence of the lamp )soon to be in theatre near you and the main character play Anthony Hopkins is named Hannibal.. To:Craweelo Thanks girl, Can you do me a favor and find out Hadis or ayad has some to do with JIN's, so we can so we can help our friend #1 fan Lady Jane Which school do you go in Seatle. Whashinton St, univ of Washinton or Gonzaga......
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| | Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 07:07 am Salaama all! Alex, I take the fifth on this one!!!! Lady Jane, I read a posting of yours in 'Ila Tala' page...I liked what you wrote for Udug. Sound advice from a smart sister! maybe you should start a "Ask Lady Jane page" Hanibal, I was never able to finish watching the movie Silence of the lambs....and now there is a sequel.....what is it with people's fascination with cannabilism? I agree though Anthony Hopkins is a great actor. Smile y'all Iid is around the corner
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| | Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 07:33 am Alex, Just a Thought and Anyone who cares: This is in response to your constant Somali government inquires. Let me start with you, Just a Thought. I hate people who use terms, without paying attention to its applied meanings. Brother, you mentioned that I support any government in Somalia without RECONCILIATION. I take it that you wouldn't. So let me ask you; what does RECONCILIATION in Somalia means to you? The way I see it, Somalia has disintegrated in to small "cube collectives" - 'seen Start Track lately?- We all become little droms -androids- of these cube collectives. And as a result of the injected nano-probes - initial stage of simulation - we lost our individuality. Consequently, the interest of the cube collective we belong to - our clan/tribe- out weights our individual interest and needs. Interestingly, we don't even know what the interest of our 'collective' really is; that is defined for us by our MASTERS - People like Egal, A/lahi Yusuf, Ato, Aydiid, Cumar Xaaji, Shatiguduud, Morgan, Yalaxow, Suudi, etc, just to name a few well known ones. So in this cube collective existence, my brothers, RECONCILIATION only means that my master must become the head MASTER of all. And so long we don't see that happen, I, the drom from 'collective' A, will carry out my duty of serving my master's interest, thus no peace and order for all. Ironically, while my master enjoys the life of the RICH AND FAMOUS, I'm willing to be plagued by life's unforgiving atrocities that had arisen from my own creation of chaos. In your circular arguments, I often hear you say that Arta's government marked the return of the old guards who oppressed me. Well, stop crying you little 'drom'. The people you called the old guards are the masters of another collective. The RECONCILIATION you called for and the state of your people's existence today dictated that they return to their posts. My question to you now is; what must you do now? Should you seek a help to restore your sense of individuality from the invading nano-probes that obscured your thinking and hence strive for your individual interest and needs? Or should you remain in the collective and since your master was not declared the grand master, stay on the sideline and call for more RECONCILIATION and RECOUNTS? It seems to me that you chose the latter, so please stop whining and bear the pain like a real android. Does really the interest of the aforementioned masters of collectives represent your interest or the interest of their so-called collectives? Sadly, Somalis lost more than they bargained for during the past decade of civil war. And if the current situation is any indication of how far we are willing to go in protecting and obeying old age ideologies and irrational mentalities of clan loyalty, we are in for a long period of earned suffering. Please let me be and close the door after your self for me so I can cry in peace. Axyaa wadanii! Axyaa wadanii! Yaa Somali ehey! Axyaa wadanii! . Wabs .
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| | Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 07:35 am The Actors named in the Sequel of 'Silence of the Lamb'...are Anthony Hopkins & Jodie Foster!.....I WISHED????...Jodie Foster cannot be part of the movie unfortunately.Which is why i am not planning to watch it.No Jodie...No Point watching it.End of Tale!(and the nerves of them replacing her with Julianne Moore....is unforgivable!) I hope they write a sequel book of it.Or have they already? Hi Everybody? Alex : Drive safely! DeeQa : Where is your Pleasant,retorical articles? Carawello : More Hadith Please.On the subject of Kindness & Giving spirit.Its good for the Hoilidays. Hodan : Welcome! Lady Jane : Pardon me Your Ladyship,I received your note and i promptly proceeded my speed upon your court.I send you Greetings from the Royal family.I am most griefed as to cause Confussion on her Grace upon my Vague Letter.I do humbly beg for Pardon my Lady,and beg to clarify my good intentions.I was merely elaborating on your fine style of Honesty,your Grace.Keenly suggesting to spare us more personal details ofcourse.....but ..with..a good heart.But..to account that unparallel state of individualism,i may have had a changed heart and retreat my suggestions,considering that her Grace has her own voice and one cannot intrude just because one regards it as faults of the common people.I will promise,by any vow,your Grace, to be more Frank in the future and spare you my direct opinions.If your Ladyship will excuse my prompt leave,i must hither away,Your Ladyship.........?
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| | Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 12:06 pm Salaams all, How is everyone doing? Carawello and Wabs, thanks for your explanations on fate and free will...masha Allah. Wabs, I like how u campared somali politics to star trek...I need to educate myself on this topic... any ideas on where to begin? Princess and Lady J...are your kingdoms at war?lol Alex, how goes it. All others, <smiles? Eid mubarak to all.
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| | Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 07:36 pm Hey guys, slaams. Just wanted to share this with ya'll. Enjoy. When Muslims Steal AB Khan Al Jumuah Vol 9, Issues 4 & 5, 1418 H Some Muslims today often display an admirable zeal in applying some parts of Islam that may not even be obligatory while they take on a complacent, self-satisfied attitude with respect to the essentials of the Deen. In one particular area, this results in Muslims stealing. The Prophet sallallahu alayhe wa sallam said: "The worst thief among men is the one who steals from his prayer." When his companions asked, "O Messenger of Allah, how does he steal from his prayer?", he replied, "He does not complete its rukoo (bowing) and sujood (prostration)." In a related report, the Prophet, observing a man not completing his rukoo properly, and pecking in his sujood, warned that if the man were to die in that state, he would die on a faith other than Islam. In any mosque, one can observe Muslims pecking, bobbing down and quickly back up in rukoo and sujood. Some of us move so impatiently through our prostrations that one is left wondering how it was humanly possible for an individual to have said "subhaana rabbiyal a'laa" the minimum three times. And even if this was accomplished, what was its significance? Can we really reflect on our relationship with the Creator if we move through our prayer so quickly? Have we understood and pondered about what was said during any part of our Salah? Allah subhanahu wa ta'aala says in the Qur'aan, "Successful indeed are the believers. Those who offer their prayers with humility and attentiveness (khushoo')." [23:1-2] If we rush through our rukoo and sujood but spend long hours in idle talk or even in meetings regarding some activity we usually have, what have we achieved? The Prophet sallallahu alayhe wa sallam said "The first matter that the slave will be brought to account for on the Day of Judgment is the prayer. If If is sound, then the rest of his deeds will be sound. And if it is defective, then the rest of his deeds will be defective." If our prayer is no more than a no-impact, mildly aerobic workout, is it any wonder that the rest of our deeds, individual and collective, are often ineffective? Rukoo and sujood are symptomatic of the problems we have with our salah as a whole. The important thing to keep in mind is that each and every one of us, scholar or student, experienced imam or newcomer to Islam, man or woman, can and should improve our prayer from the day we learn it to the day we die. So the next time we prepare to bow down, let's make sure we don't get caught stealing.
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| | Friday, December 22, 2000 - 08:55 am Asalama caleykum wa raxmatullahi wa barakatu! To TLG: Maasha Allah,maasha Allah TLG!Thank you so much for sharing that.You're so right,because I think that if one has been praying for the better part of one's life,one gets so used to Salah that many a time it is treated as just some part of the routine of the day(yours truly included!)and not a private,valuable time between the Creator and us!We should indeed observe our prayers and be steadfast in them and strive towards having attentiveness of heart,mind,soul and spirit EACH and EVERY single time we stand before Al-Dul Jalaali wal Ikraam! BTW,Her Ladyship is hardly at war with Her Royal Highness.On the contrary,Her Grace was merely having some harmless fun with Her Royal Highness! Her Grace is sure that Her Royal Highness thoroughly enjoyed our little playful chats... To Hannibal: I go to neither schools...Go figure! To Xaali: How kind of you!Thanks,but no thanks.I think I'll pass on establishing a Lady Jane's column just yet!There's enough character assasination going on without having to add an Advice column to the list!Perhaps,you should tackle that BULL?..lol! To Princess Guinevre: I hear Her Royal Highness is in good health.Her Ladyship is pleased that Her Royal Highness' intentions stem from a good heart.Such a rare attribute these days,wouldn't you say?In light of this,Her Grace feels there is hardly any reason for Her Royal Highness to feel apologetic or ask for pardon of any kind.Her Royal Highness was merely expressing herself with good heart might I add;as was I.Her Grace does so treasure receiving delightful letters from the Princess!Her Grace would not want to forsake frank,playful and charming company such as yours! To Wabs: You go boy!!!You're a Star Trek fan!Okay I no longer feel eccentric...lol!Such a beautiful analogy at that!How nice of you to mention the Borg!D'accord! To Deeqa,Alex and Caraweelo: How's it going people?All systems functioning?lol! In advance Eid Mubarak to you all! Until next time peace,love and craziness to you all! Lady Jane.
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| | Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 10:22 am Wabs, You asked, "what does RECONCILIATION in Somalia means to you? " By reconciliation I mean allowing ALL STAKEHOLDERS coming to the same table and sorting all their differences there. However, reconciliation is not where a few self-appointed former-regime technocrats or foreign appointed individuals meeting in the disguise of Somalia National reconciliation. In other words advocating for a participatory reconciliation with the main objective of having ultimate peace and not formation of a government at any cost. Participatory reconciliation that Includes not only these leaders you have mentioned (Egal, A/lahi Yusuf, Ato, Aydiid, Cumar Xaaji, Shatiguduud, Morgan, Yalaxow, Suudi) but any one else who holds key to our national peace and any other interested parties. A government that is not formed with peace in mind will ultimately fail. You say, "Somalia has disintegrated in to small "cube collectives" Have you ever asked yourself what is the root cause of this situation? And do you think in your right sense of mind that you will achieve to bring together all these disintegrated units together by your FALSE RECONCILIATION? Or are you planning to use the Siyaad’s grand plan of DIVIDE AND RULE because that is where your expertise lies. It is common knowledge that Siyaad’s regime is not interested in the REINTERGRATION of the country because that would mean that they would not stand a chance in holding authority. "we lost our individuality" By advocating for peace we are accused of loosing our individuality. Soon I guess we will be accused for being enemies of peace itself by standing for the right principles. Whether we think in terms of individuals or groups is irrelevant in the situation as everyone has the freedom to choose the way they think, freedom that was missing in the era of Siyaad’s regime who would have castigated anyone with a difference of opinion. “RECONCILIATION and RECOUNTS” Belittling the importance of reconciliation by comparing with the US election recounts will not deter anyone to advocate for proper reconciliation to achieve peace in whole of Somalia. “Does really the interest of the aforementioned masters of collectives represent your interest or the interest of their so-called collectives?” Yes. How? By their diverse backgrounds with different interests there would be a BALANCE in the sharing of power. Ultimately NO ROOM WILL THERE BE FOR ABUSING POWER and therefore an improved accountability for everyone’s deeds. “So please stop whining and bear the pain like a real android.” &“. Well, stop crying you little 'drom'” With all the above arrogance even before Somalis have accepted the legitimacy of the Arta group, can you imagine what would have happened if they were recognised? My guess is they would have trampled on everyone.
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| | Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 10:26 am Eid Mubarak all that includes you Wabs
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| | Monday, December 25, 2000 - 11:27 am EID MUBARAK TO YOU ALL
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| | Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 08:42 am Ciid Mubaarak and Happy New Year to all of u...specially Alex and his crew(Deeqa, sis Caraweela, Wabs, Muna, Xaali, Caafi, Mullah)and etc. Indeed,without u guys, this dialgue it never had been going a year and half. I take this opportunty to say all of u, I wish u Healthy, prosperity and a full of content.
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| | Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 10:55 am Something to consider. This is very true. It may be longish but it's good. Could the ladies reply and tell me which title you come under. :-) Subject: 19 Kinds Of Sistahs 1. Gold Digger ADVANTAGES A. Always looks good B. Will give up the booty when you're spending cash DISADVANTAGES A. Will ONLY give up the booty when you're spending cash B. Will leave you for the next sucker who has more cash-flow 2. Hoochie ADVANTAGES A. Always down to give up the booty B. Looks good to all of your friends, which boosts your ego DISADVANTAGES A. Probably has slept with all of your friends or eventually will 3. Chickenhead ADVANTAGES A. Down for "what-eva" B. Booty-call material C. Will believe most of what you say and doesn't care about the rest D. Has your back in most situations and will bust-a-cap if needed DISADVANTAGES A. Will bust a cap in " YOUR " ass. B. Ghetto as hell C. Comes with some MAD!!! drama 4. Ms. "I'm looking for a relationship" ADVANTAGES A. Will give up the booty as long as you seem ready for a relationship too. B. Usually looks good every time you see her DISADVANTAGES A. Really looking for a husband B. Will leave you if you start acting like you don't want to get married or can't say exactly when you will be ready 5. Ms. "I'm looking for a husband" ADVANTAGES A. Will give up the booty as long as you seem ready to get married too. B. Usually looks good every time you see her DISADVANTAGES A. Marriage is her #1 goal in life and nothing else matters B. Will leave you if you start acting like you don't want to get married or can't say exactly when you will be ready C. Will bug the hell out of you until you marry her or leave her 6. Ex-girlfriend ADVANTAGES A. You can always go back to hit it again if you throw her a few lines that make it seem that there's a slight possibility that you two may be getting back together. B. She looks even better now that you are not with her DISADVANTAGES A. She looks better now that you are not with her B. She has caused you MAJOR drama 7. Your BabyMoma ADVANTAGES A. See advantages for Ex-girlfriend DISADVANTAGES A. See disadvantages for Ex-girlfriend B. She's hitting you up for child support 8.Ms. "I'm looking for a daddy for my kids" AKA"Someone else's BabyMoma" AKA 90% of eligible sistas ADVANTAGES A. Will give up the booty as long as you seem like a prospect to take the job B. Will do almost anything to get some help with her kid(s) DISADVANTAGES A. See Ms. "I'm looking for a relationship" & Ms. "I'm looking for a husband" B. Might get pregnant for you too, thinking that you might stay if she has your child, which is the same" ILL LOGIC" that got her caught up before 9. Ms. "I don't need a man because I have my own ••••" ADVANTAGES A. She has her own •••• B. All she really needs from you is ONE TING! DISADVANTAGES A. She reminds you every chance she gets that she doesn't need you, until you get tired of earing it and leave 10. "The Perfect Woman" ADVANTAGES A. Cooks B. Cleans C. Looks great D. Sexes you up E. Doesn't ask where you've been F. Doesn't ask for much G. Caters to your every need DISADVANTAGES A. Is usually Ms. "I'm looking for relationship," Ms. " I'm looking for a husband," or Ms." I'm looking for a daddy for my kids" in disguise B. Everything will change once you make a commitment, especially if you do some dumb ass •••• like MARRY her. 11. The almost Perfect woman ADVANTAGES A. Looks great, doesn't ask where you've been or many other questions DISADVANTAGES A. She's probably sleeping with someone you know 12. Ms. "I'm waiting on God to send me the perfect man, and even though I'm in the club tonightI'll be in church tomorrow" ADVANTAGES A. May bring some morality to the relationship DISADVANTAGES A. The morality only applies when it's appropriate for her to make a point or is to her advantage 13. Ms. "I know I don't live at home anymore, but I might as well because I see or call my Moma every day" ADVANTAGES A. Easy babysitter access for her kid(s) DISADVANTAGES A. Her mother will eventually f-k up the relationship 14. Ms. "Dick Teaser" ADVANTAGES A. Will give it up on the dance floor B. Usually looks pretty good C. You can always tell your friends that you've hit it and they'll believe you DISADVANTAGES A. She'll let everyone else hit it but you...or at least that's what they've told you 15. Ms. "Friend" ADVANTAGES A. Someone who finally understands you DISADVANTAGES A. You will always be attracted to her but don't want to f**k it up by making a move B. Can turn out to be a REALTEASE...If I didn't know you so long .....and I've always wondered what it would be like 16. Ms. "Trick-Ass-B*tch" ADVANTAGES A. None DISADVANTAGES A. See disadvantages for Gold-digger, Hoochie, Chickhead, or BabyMoma Note: (Was considered a Gold-digger, Hoochie, Chickenhead, or Girlfriend before you got played) 17. Strong Black Woman ADVANTAGES A. Same advantages as Ms. "I don't need a man because I have my own ••••," but hasn't had a man in while so it's easier for you hit it DISADVANTAGES A. Same disadvantages as Ms. "I don't need a man because I have my own ••••" B. Will test your nuts once and a while, which may land you in domestic violence classes 18. Ms. "I got screwed over in my last relationship so I'm going to take all of that •••• out on you" ADVANTAGES A. Will give up the booty to show her ex-boyfriend/husband that she has moved on DISADVANTAGES A. Takes all of that •••• out on you, meaning she doesn't trust you, always thinks you're cheating, and becomes" NEEDY" once she believes you really are different 19. Ms. "I'm one of the guys" ADVANTAGES A. Likes sports, B. low-maintenance DISADVANTAGES A. Wants to hang with you when you want tohang with JUST the GUYS B. May beat you at competitive sports C. You might want to do a crotch check before you try to hit it( BEWARE, JERRY SPRINGER ••••!!! )
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| | Friday, December 29, 2000 - 09:01 am Ciid Wanagsaan & Happy Sanaad Cusuub!
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| | Sunday, December 31, 2000 - 03:11 pm Greetings Earthlings, My god I missed a lot. I decided to take a brake from the books. I was studying in the library the other day, I thought one of the statues actually SMILED at me, so I sprinted out of the place. Thought it was time to take a brake and grace you with my precense. I see everyone is up to their usual tricks, I'm afraid I don't have the time to honour you all with an essay, just wanted to say HAPPY NEW YEAR!! Peace and blessings. p.s. has everyone made new years reselutions yet?
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| | Tuesday, January 02, 2001 - 06:31 am Happy New Year and late CIID MUBARAK to all of you. My new Year Resolution is to be nice to Deeqo and Caraweelo. Let us hope that I keep this one. Axood Ciid Mubarak Brother how is Minneapolis? I went to Atlanta brother Axoow but did not attend any party. I hear that DC had a singer from Holland that was very good, but I put all my money on Cumar yare. WABS: Brother I hear you and always agree with you. How can I disagree with you. Deeqo: I since I fasted an extra day can I assume that it’s like doing extra assignment to get a solid C. The reason I say this is People in Somali saw the moon on the 29th and I think I should have broken the fast with them. Osman: Brother what should I do then? I see advantages and disadvantages all over the place. I like the perfect woman one, but the thing that scared me is “ every thing will change when you do a dumb thing.” Can you give me some examples please? Thank you in advance. Carweelo: How are you? Happy new Millennium. Just a thought: What is your thought of Somali politics on the New Year? What do you think will happen? My Princes: One of My New Year resolutions is to meet Princes like you. Lady Jane: One of my many New Year resolutions is to proof read. TLG: One of my important New Year Resolutions is to meet your parents. Note: I’m not going to meet them if they are in any part of Somalia. It will be a good year for me due to Republicans coming to town. Thank god cheap Democrats are leaving me. Bye
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| | Thursday, January 04, 2001 - 12:56 pm Here it is so you don't have to search all over the place.
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| | Thursday, January 04, 2001 - 01:00 pm I was worried that the site went down as many dot com’s have gone. I was going to a withdrawal system. I’m glad that it’s back with it’s contents intact.
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| | Thursday, January 04, 2001 - 10:35 pm Happy belated Eid Mubarak,and New year to you all,and I'm hopping everyone is quite as exubirant as I am about all the off days and long weekends I had eventhough driving 8 hours under blizard conditions wasn't quite exuberant after all...and then some idiot Canadian border officer pulled me over for no reason...I spent half an hour in that so called Canadian customs lobby...that wouldn't necessarilly happen if he(the idiot) was a she...anyways the rest went just fantastic.. Wabs...So how was your trip to my town...?if I heard you right. Caraweelo...Hope you survived that harsh winter storm...although your wish for snow to come down was quite extravagant! Xaali.....What's up sis, your visitation here is getting extremely limited...a husband came along or something...? Later...
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| | Friday, January 05, 2001 - 10:30 am Hi All the Village PPl I hope you All sing like Them! You All seem you Live some part of USA, Can any one tel me the live about MD? Muna MD sis can you help me here? I want Know how MD far from VA N DC N why ppl says It is better Place to Live? Please help your Confuse Sis, who may want move to MD. How is rent/Jobs? is it a racist place? how is the weather? is worth to move there? oh! I am In Europe so I don,t know a lot aboput USA. Help! help! Help! please>
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| | Friday, January 05, 2001 - 06:26 pm Salaam ya'll, I hope everyone had a good vacation and a blessed, fun filled eid. Boy, it is good to be back to school! (not!) Lady J, merci, merci beaucoup. When I find interesting quotes and passages, I like to share them. I think this form of spreading Islamic knowledge is better than condemning and telling people that they are sinners. Alex, so you want to meet my parents? I'm afraid i'll have to disapoint you, much as it pains me. Not only do they live in Somalia but in the vicinity of the very same huge tree I was born under :-) Seriously, why the discrimination against parents that live in Somalia? Oh I think I see why. YOur poor cab driving behind can't support them...lol...Just kidding bro. I bet you are some hot shot engineer trying to be humble about his success and education. You can meet my parents, hakuna matata. Just tell when and where.
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| | Monday, January 08, 2001 - 05:53 am Come on people you are all back at work and in school. You have used all your sick leaves vacations come out of the bushes. There are no home works assigned yet. I know you are surfing the net TLG: Sister The huge tree is no longer there it has been used as DHUXUL better send some money to your parents.I’m not discriminating anyone I’m jut checking. WABS: Brother what is up. I’m confused about all this hupla back home what is going on. Give me your analysis. Deeqo: How are you? Come on deeqo I know you have not attended a single class yet. Oh I see you want to tell me you have other things to do. Just a thought: I know nowadays the ball is in your court now that the RRA is looking for Mr Dheeroo. You see they made one mistake. They should have put a bounty hunt on his head ,then people would have delivered to them. Aaxoow: How about them Baltimore Reavans. Aaxow the Viking luck will run out next Sunday. Hey Aaxow I hear Omar has permanently moved to Minneapolis is that true? Caraweelo: Good morning. Need Your Help: Move to Minneapolis don’t come here.
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| | Monday, January 08, 2001 - 07:35 am Eid Mubarak everyone! Hope everyone is doing well and had an enjoyable holiday break. I certainly did! Happy New Year (to the more cosmopolitan among us). Alex: How are you? I must say that while I usually don't hold with new year's resolutions, I thought yours was an excellent one. I strongly urge you, brother, to try to uphold your resolution as it's one of the best and most important ones I have heard of. Caraweelo: Don't you agree sis? I'm "in between classes" right now so... ciao P.S. Princess Guinevere: I had a great anetdote all worked out and I even typed it...but then something went wrong with my PC, and it's gone. So Happy New Year! instead.
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| | Monday, January 08, 2001 - 08:41 am Alex that kind of incidents are bound to happen until people stop pretending that their was a genuine reconciliation in Arta. I am only saddened that it is young men who loose their lives for selfish interests of a few. I hope people will see the reality that there are no winners in a war neither in domination of others. Pray to allah that there be a genuine reconciliation and PEACE between somalis.
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| | Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 03:56 am MR COOL, CAN YOU PLEASE USE YOUR OWN NICK NAMES, CAUSE THIS IS MINE AND I WILL NOT LET YOU TO PRETEND THAT YOU'RE ME. PLEASE RESPECT OK! ( TO THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW THE LANGUAGE BELOW IT IS DUTCH!) KAN JE ALSTUBLIEFT VAN JE EIGEN ROEPNAMEN GEBRUIK VAN MAKEN WANT DEZE IS VAN MIJ EN IK ZOU JE NIET LATEN DAT JE DOET ALSOF JE ME BENT. TOON RESPECT ALSTUBLIEFT! N.B I WRITE IN FOREIGN LANGUAGES CAUSE TODAY WE INTEREST AS SOMALIS IN OTHER LANGUAGES!
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| | Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 04:24 am The Real Mr Cool has not been to the village for a long time, and the real Mr cool is from Australia. This Mr cool must be a Dutch person who has over dozed with Marijuana. It’s only Tuesday. Just a though: I asked someone if the Concorde could land in Galkacayo, they said no. They also showed me a video of the dusty Airport. You pulled my leg brother. Deeqo: Good morning. Did you get good classes this semester? Or you guy stuck the early morning ones. Just remember NAAGTII SEEXATO SACEEDA DIBI DHALO. TLG: I hope you got a good schedule.
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| | Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 01:04 pm Alex: Good morning. My schedule is great: mostly afternoon classes, only two days do I have lectures at 9 am. Unfortunately they are on mondays and fridays. The saying (NAAGTII SEEXATO SACEEDA DIBI DHALO) is very true, but you might consider updating it for the technophiles and the Wall Street millionares though. Throw in words pertaining to computers (the early nerd gets the byte) or portfolios (a stock quote in time saves nine). " Personally, since I am a biologist (I am in my last year of undergrad so I can now safely define myself as such), this one works: She who sleeps in, finds contaminants in her culture. Speaking of aphorisms, the situation in Somalia brings one to mind: Putting the cart before the horse. Nabadeey
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| | Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 04:22 am You All Boring GEEZEZ!!!!! Why u just Talk whit no Intresting Conversation. Typical Somalis. why waste your Time whit this Trash?
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| | Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 08:33 am If you got something better why not share with us. Why waste your time commenting on Trash " "
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| | Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 10:45 am Good afternoon to all The Smart One: Before I began I would like to know why you call yourself The Smart One? Tonight David Letterman’s one of the top 10 things smart people do will be. Criticizes others for no reason. DANYEER DABADIISA MA FIIRSHOW KUWA KALE AYUU FIIRSHAA. ( I don’t mean in an insulting way by any means). Deeqa: Dear as you can see there has been complaints from the forums, so we need to start a controversy ASAP. Deeqa why do you have early classes on Mondays and Fridays? Aren’t the classes set for Monday, Wednesday and Friday or Tuesday and Thursday classes or in Canada are opposite to the norm. So you are biology major ha, that is good. About the stock market I wish I had money. This time is the best time to invest in stocks. They are having a fire sell. MCI world Comm, AT&T, oracle and so one are way down. Just do not invest in the DOT COM stocks. Deeqo do you know that outside Washington DC a Route called 270 ( In Montgomery County Maryland ) they have major biotech industry. Anonymous; The smart one has said all she/he got so there is nothing left in him or her. Do you know what they call people like that. Smart Alex. Wabs: Brother the line that you are in is not the bookstore one, it’s the one for the HOOTERS. Takes care to all.
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| | Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 08:37 pm Salaam all. And EARLY morning greetings to all. Alex, I'm not too pleased with my schedule this term. I have my classes in buildings that are miles apart and thus have to run around in this cold Canadian weather. I also can't attend salatul-Juma' on campus since I have a class at the set time. I think it was a conspiracy against me. Too many X-files episodes eh? Deeqa, I can relate to your "She who sleeps in, finds contaminants in her culture" saying. salaams.
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| | Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 05:20 am Good day to all the villagers- a belated happy Idd and new year/millinium (the real one...not that it matters...this just in...National Public Radio announced this morning that there was a rock discovered in Australia that dates formation of land on earth to 4.4 Billion years ago! so what does a miserable 2001 mean!)- anyway back to greetings.... It has been a while- and I see Alex has made the right resolution! Brother, listen to Deeqa. You know what worries me about young men today- they take as role models, men from a disintegrated culture. Listen to what Osman posted! Goodness, "hoochi" this and "bootie" that (Honestly- I don't even know how to spell these words)- what are they? They are not even english. Why learn Ebonics- its not our culture and it will not benefit us any. There was a hadith I read a while ago that says: If something does not benefit you for your religion, for your life here on earth or for your afterlife, it is best to leave it alone. Ebonics and emulating the destructive "inner-city" culture (or lack therof) is a perfect example! I made a few resolutions myself last Dec 31st. 1. no male bashing 2. be kind to idiots 3. take lessons in how to achieve #2 4. study hard for #1 5. study even harder to achieve #2, which will help in achieving #1 No use.......A woman can only do so much...mastering the impossible is...how do I say it...impossible. LOL!
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| | Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 07:56 am Carawello let me give you a hint on how you can achieve your goals. To achieve # 1. you have to love them more and try to understand them less. Since Men are on a higher psychic level, you will only get frustrated and angry if you try to understand them. To achieve # 2. you have to start with yourself. Be kind to yourself first. Then try to apply that same kindness to others. This can only be done after you feel that you are completely at peace with yourself. Good luck !
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| | Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 08:23 am abdul- such wisdom- goodness you must be sooooo proud of yourself. and the word "psychic" - has never been used to qualify men!!!!!!! could you perhaps mean.....might I venture into "maledom" and "appear" knowledged...ummm... PSYCHOLOGICAL- or perhaps- INTELLECTUAL. (sigh).... ps. resolution #5: tolerance...i need to learn to tolerate......amen! pps. the heck with tolerance...i choose to be a witch....
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| | Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 09:40 am Asalama caleykum wa raxmatullahi wa barakatu! Salutations everyone!Hope you are all in great health and even better spirit.My,my it has been a long time indeed.It's good to see that you are all alive and still kicking.Resolutions,is it? Okay,here's my two cents worth... 1.Get fewer parking tickets. 2.Be mindful of the Speed Limit...this is truly going to be a Challenge...I haven't the slightest idea how I will pull this off!! 3.In the event that resolution #2 fails,then I will just have to say to my defense the three words that would make SHAGGY smile from ear to ear and beam with immense pride..IT WASN'T ME!! 4.Not to get infuriated by the long, penetrating, invading and oh so rude gazes of our muslim brothers(including the so-called Wadaads)regardless of how modestly clad we muslim sisters are!!! Of course,it goes without saying that I'm still in mourning for poor Bobby from the Practice...such grief this caused me!! Until next time,peace,love and CRAZINESS to you all!!! Lady Jane.
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| | Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 02:13 pm Evening everyone, TLG, Hey you taking biology too? Sis, I share your pain: Just today I get off the bus, trek uphill for 10 minutes, get out of lecture fifty minutes later, trek downhill again to the building next to my bus-stop, get out three hours later, go up hill again....ah the joys of learning. Who was saying the other day that they miss their college days? What's more, I am taking a microbiology class that is absolutely horrendous! I think I suffer from metazoan chauvinism :-). But if I hear a lecture on "the differences between prokaryotes and eukaryotes" one more time....I won't be responsible for my actions. Lady Jane, LOL. I am getting the impression that the boys in blue have insurance out on your car: if anything happens to it, they lose a major source of income My only resolution this year is NOT to make any resolutions. Which means I am not making this resolution either, I suppose. Just perfect. Caraweelo: Welcome back sis! Recuperating from wild New Year's Eve parties? Your resolutions made me laugh--btw, isn't "be kind to idiots" redundant after "no male bashing? . Obviously, I am not even going to try to make similar resolutions-- too hard!! But you know, I think I can help you with your irritation and feelings of anger with men like Osman, using psychoanalysis. [just lie back in the couch and pretend I have a gottee and round little glasses]: see, the trick to withstanding male idiocy is to remember that every moron has a smarter, braver, kinder inner part just screaming to get out: it's called his feminine side.....er no hold on a minute, that's not exactly what Freud had in mind was it? Speaking of which, has anybody watched "What Women Want"? Is it good? 'Coz I got a free ticket to the movies that's just burning through my backpack. To cheer you up, Three male friends were talking (but NEVER think for a minute that it was gossip and idle chitchat). One of the men boasted that he had complete control over his wife. The other man quickly agreed, saying that his wife didn't do a thing without his say-so. The two men kept exchanging like comments back and forth for a while. Then one of them turned to the third man, who had been silent the whole time. "What kind of control do you have over your wife?" He asked. "Just last night, my wife came to me on her hands and knees," he replied. The other two were highly impressed. "Wow, how did you get her to do that?" One asked. Says the third man, "well, I was under the bed and my wife was demanding that I come out and fight like a man." LOL. But no offence meant boys (I am borrowing this from many brothers, who roundly insult women and then say they don't mean REALLY anything by it). Now I am going to go and find a tunnel so I can avoid that damn hill.
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| | Friday, January 12, 2001 - 09:44 am Deeqa LOL!!! loved the joke. Re: "what women want"- the jury is still out... Personally I enjoyed it. It was light and entertaining- but I am not to be trusted since I absolutely adore Mel! A friend of mine hated the movie- said it was too "hollywoody" and predictable. But let me go out on a limb and suggest you see it. I think you will enjoy it...besides staring into those... ehmmm...is worth the ticket! Lady Jane- one excuse that always works for me- "I am so sorry sir...I am trying to get to the ER- you see... some woman complications...I am pregnant- husband is out of town- I am new to the area- had no one to drive me- and... (pretend that you are about to cry)...and (sigh)- I am so sorry sir- I really can't afford a ticket- and (sigh).. Men are such pushovers! Isn't life grand!
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| | Friday, January 12, 2001 - 12:14 pm Salaam ya'll. Carawello and Lady J, welcome back sisters. I trust you had a good vacation and a blessed, fun-filled eid. Deeqa I'm in the "daughter-field" sis...aka Mol. Bio. I'm in my final year too and like every other final-year student, afraid to leave this lil nest called Univ. and face the real world. so you are taking Micro? How do you like the labs? Talking about diff. btn Pro and Eukaryotes, have you seen the latest proposals on a 3 domain (based on Molecular sequencing of 16srRNA) evolutionary tree as opposed to the two (Pro/Eukaryote)that we are used to ? Guess how frustrating it will be for the next generation when they have to up put with numerous lectures on the difference btn Eubacteria, Archeabacteria and Prokaryotes! Lady J, you sooo right about that "invading and so rude gazes by our 'Muslim' bros" funnily enough, those that have the whole islamic thing going would say, "since I'm only allowed one look, I extend it"lol...the jokers, you know. Carawello, sis, tough on the "idiots", tough on the causes of "idioism" (is that a word?)...lol. On second thoughts, may be we should be easy with them. After all, they might be young, single and on the prow. I was refering to people like Abdul (lest I incur the wrath of the rest of the XY villagers, who have been adorable so far). And upon discovering how INTELLIGENT the female contributors of this page are, decided to display colourful "wisdom"... An outdated mating call I would say. Hey Alex, where is you? salaam
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| | Friday, January 12, 2001 - 12:19 pm One more thing, Deeqa, i must admit (in agreement with Carawello) "what women want" is worth seeing. Eventhough a lil Mullah like myself is not very much inclined towards movies, I was enticed to see it by family members over the holidays...ah, the things family can do to you. They think my whole "religiousity" thing is a phase that will dispear soon. What is worse, they blame it on University life and the MSA.
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| | Friday, January 12, 2001 - 03:29 pm Asalama caleykum wa raxmatullahi wa barakatu! To Deeqa: LOL!I loved the joke...the things men will do to stroke their ego just one more time,knowing full well that it isn't they who wear the pants in the home but us!...that is figuratively speaking! Okay you and TLG are starting to bring back memories of Cell Biology...(sniff,sniff),when I was still in love with Bio...that is until they dragged Organic Chemistry into it and of course that brought the whole love affair to a screeching hault! Let me give you a dash of optimism about those hills you have to keep climbing up and down to get to your classes...Sis,by the time you're done with Uni your calves will have moulded themselves into such brilliant shape... You'll be fit to be an Adonis.. and even you won't believe you didn't need to set foot in a gym to get them!!! I believe I will have to agree with Caraweelo and TLG..."What women want" is indeed a movie worth seeing.It is funny,light-hearted and I didn't feel it was too intelligent insulting and mushy...Go see it girl! Speaking of movies has anyone had a chance to catch Tom Hanks on Castaway?...It was absolutely brilliant.I had no idea two hours or so of watching just one person on screen with no other characters could be so entertaining.I think it is sure to get a couple of Oscar nominations. To Caraweelo: LOL!So I'm not the only crazy sister behind the wheel these days eh? I take that your excuse works impeccably each and every time you go for the kill to melt the heart of the officer in question!Gosh,I'd love to try that some day...not that I'm hoping from a reason to test drive the excuse though!..lol. To TLG: Yes sis,the holidays were very delightful even though my WHOLE family insisted on visiting from your side of the border...I tell you I felt the same way Kuwait felt when Iraq decided to do a little visiting of its own back in 1990!..lol!I envy you girl...You get to pray Salatul Jumca in actual congregation at your Uni! Maasha Allah! You are very lucky indeed.I wish we muslims were that great in number at our school. To Alex: Okay,let me get this straight.You complain that no one is taking the time to visit the village anymore and when we finally return...You decide to pull a disappearing act on us..I've been known to be a little slow sometimes...so maybe there's something I'm missing here..but this sure doesn't add up..lol! So how have you been bro? Just thought I'd ask.I hope you haven't been too self-conscious of your writing since you said that one of your resolutions was too proof read more...I tell you man...at least half of that pressure you're feeling is undoubtedly IMAGINED!!..LOL! Btw,I've been to ask this question for the longest time you guys.And this might seem like ignorance of the highest order,but just bear with me okay.Islamically speaking,is it Haraam to be a Professional Athlete?If so,why?If not,then is it only the males who are allowed to make a living this way? Until next time,peace,love and craziness to you all. Lady Jane.
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| | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 09:18 pm Alex Hi my dear. My God! Several attempts of destroying my name have been under taken. Oh this name thingy freaks the daylight out of me every freaking time that I visit this forums thingy. Damn it! Anyhow, it has been long huhh. So how have you been? Can’t read the entire posting I have missed  I just came to check for few minutes and all I see is MR COOL here and MR COOL there. I wonder what is so special about this nick. Anyhow, I see new villegers around. It is good too see you haven’t been bored. Well I will show up more often. Its just that it is so freaking hot in down under. TEHREALMRFREAK Two words for you: GET REAL! Or even better: GET BANNED! To All The Other Villagers HELLO THERE!
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| | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 08:28 am Good morning to all of you. First let ask all the Viking fans what the hell happened to guys. What the hell happened to Moss? Hey don’t fell bad as a Redskin fan we have spent 100 Million Dollars and look what happened to us. Mr Cool: It’s good to hear from you. I saw your name all over and I knew from their tone that was not you. Hey move here from down there. Come to the top of the world. How is my girl Ladan doing? Is she married yet? Please don’t disappear from on me. I have seen the movie what women want. Now I now why women are wrong. ): Lol. Lady Jane: Dear I did not disappear I was kind of busy, one of the rear times I become busy. TLG: I’m here and can get into a women’s mind now that I have been show the trick. I can read Deeqa’s and caraweelo’s mind now. One thing that I did not get is why he wanted so badly to loose his abilities or reading what the women where thinking. Deeqo and Caraweelo: The movie has been a seminar for me. I’m going to soften from now on when I’m on a mission. My problem has been that I was not compromising before Aaxow: Brother what the hell happened to the Vikings man 41 to zip. What happened to Mr Moss 2 catches for 18 yards wow ? They have a lot to learn. Aaxow soon I will visit Minneapolis please make sure there is a party on that weekend or at least one weekend. Thank you.
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| | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 09:24 pm Alex I know that you can differentiate me from all these people using this nick. It is so simple to see the difference. Ladan? Not married yet. She says Hi. So you saw the movie huhh?? Yeah I still got to see that. I will by this weekend maybe. So knowing what women want did it solve your anti-social and your freakiness behavior towards them? Mind you I only mean it well So how is your dating and mating season going? Any scratches yet? I promise that I won't disappear anymore.
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| | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 03:49 am I see a conflict What is so cool with the name "Mr Cool"? .. lol Isn't it that rebelious girl's name? Now Mr Cool where are you from again?...lol Alex it is claimed that you have "anti-social and ... freakiness behavior towards them (women)". Does that claim hold water?
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| | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 06:32 am Good morning to all. Mr Cool, now that I have seen the movie and need to tweak my approaches toward women, but still one aspect of the movie is still in my mind. You see Mr Cool there is this girl who works in a coffee shop who hasn’t had sex for four months. Mel Gibbson was trying to sleep with her for a while he was begging her everyday, that he entered the coffee shop, not until he got the special powers that he know what to say and how to say it. The thing is if she wanted for so long why did both of them had to suffer. Now you know why men go to prostitutes, the only think they have to negotiate is the price. About the dating game I don’t know Mr Cool I attended a Somali party in Virginia one night man I was stunned I did not know all this women lived in the area. I did not get any result. Maybe now that I have seen the movie hopefully I will change. To Just a thought: I have problem with the once who ( KUWA CARABKA DHEER ) I don’t want to name names I normally keep my new years resolutions for the entire month of January. I don’t want to break this tradition. Hey now that the United Nations wants to work with the Intern government isn’t time that we do our part brother?
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| | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 08:10 am TLG "Not very much inclined to movies"??? Judging from your postings around (and many other places), you are probably one of those nutcases, who were brough up in the West and may be due to discrimination, developed an aversion towards anything Western. You guys rebel against anything Western even if there is good in it. Easy Lady. The West is not that bad after all.
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| | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 12:50 pm Hey Anonymous all the girl said was she doesn’t go to the movies often. “Hold on Alex be sensitive here”. My dear stranger our Somali sister TLG doesn’t go to the movies often. PaPa: Brother can you point me to a good religious web sites that I can learn from. I want to save my soul. I have watched the first episode of Temptation Island, and I’m afraid of becoming an addict. Lady Jane: Come on dear make up your mind write something you are holding the Internet Traffic. Caraweelo: Have you Temptation Island yet? Or has anyone seen the show yet. Deeqa: Come on you don’t have to study that hard yet, school just started. Don’t worry just a thought will help with your homework, he is a Biology major. WABS: Brother come on brother I need help I think I’m going into relapse. Between what women want and Temptation Island. I hope you are doing well. Xaali: I always forget about you. (Sorry Xaali XAAL QAADO) Since you are our resident Environmentalist, what is this thing that I read that some Italian companies are dumping toxic west on our shores. Just a thought: I think you will like this. The other night I was watching a debate show, The reverend Al Sharpton from New York was talking. Do you know what he said about bush. “ he said he is president select not president elect”. Got it select not elect. You immediately come to my mind. I’m sure you are going to say the same thing about Mr Cabdulqasim salad Hassan. Before you jump up and down, the same thing could be said about Mr Yusuf and Cigaal. Take it easy bro. Bye to all of you.
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| | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 08:43 pm Just a thought, Love the nick, just simple; you see I might go for something like just a freak or just nasty Conflict huhhh…. The name seems to be lame. Rebellious girl? Hehehhe is that what I was. Well yeah I think so. It’s me. Why do you need to know where I am from? How is that relevant in here you want to hunt me down…lol. Well if you must know I am from Australia.
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| | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 09:31 pm Alex I see the idea of nailing the poor coffee shop girl is disturbing you? Why both of them had to suffer? Well I wouldn’t know that. I mean for myself I could tell you I believe eyes wide opened and crossed legs no matter what that tiny voice its telling ya. But I am quite sure for the coffee girl was something different. I still don’t know why men go to prostitutes. Because they ain’t getting any? Dear God, please do not explain the reason. Dating game or mating season. Yeah lets talk about that. Why did you scare away the sisters like that? Ok here is a tip. Don’t look at them like you have not seen a breathing woman before. They get scared. There are some brothers that when they are getting introduced to women they either don’t let go the handshake and the poor girl asks for her hand back or they can’t stop looking and it is so obvious to see that he is drooling all over her. I am talking about personal experience here. So please don’t tell me you did one of those behaviors. Tell me your reaction. One more thingy, if you see a gorgeous woman (of course you don’t need me to tell you what to do, I mean an experienced dude like you, PLEASE DON’T JUMP) don’t show her that your breath is taken away. Act like I have seen better. Believe me that way you will do better. But don’t overdo the ignoring section. Once again NORMAL my dear. Party??? Hummm I don’t know about that, however, if you are looking for something more interesting, leave the party chicks alone. NO! Disregard that. Party chicks are less complicated than the other women, just go for the party once (of course once again you don’t need me to tell you what type of women you should go for, I mean an experienced man like you ).
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| | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 03:45 am Temptation Island? Survivors stranded or some other spin off? haven't seen it and won't say I will! I'm not much of TV person- other than Voyager (I admit to be a Trekkie) and "the Practice" and some "X-files". Movies are my addiction- Remember, with a little on in the house I can't watch any show from beginning to end! Unless it starts after 9:00 PM... Mr Cool- Greetings and welcome back....its been a while since I "read" you...how are you surviving the heat! I hear you folks were at the beach for new years!!!!! Maybe its time I moved down under- at least Jan-April! So what is the latest from our miserable home-country? Just the highlights please....Can you imagine we have been homeless for 10 Years.. 10 YEARS....see what the power-hungry, hate-instigators SOB's have done to us!? Personally, I am embarrassed to say I am Somali.
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| | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 11:34 am Mr cool I hope you are not writing from one of those famous detention camps in australia. God help you if you are. Alex I dont expect and never will expect the united nations to do anything of worth in Somalia. May be prop up a few politicians here and there but the daily lives of people will depend on their determination to improve the lives and what Allah bestows them. You know one of the ironies of our lives? The "United Nations" as you said are ready to work with the "TNG" or Arta group. The name united nations is the irony when you see all sorts of nations that are suppossedly part of the united nations and are infact in disagreement with that Arta group. So which are these united - nations that are in agreement with artas government apart from yemen and djibuti? It is surprising the number of violations against Somalia that have happened in the last few years. From an admission from the Italian government of some of its resident companies are damping its waste in somalia's territory, to Jailing of a number of Somalis in several cities which are suspect in nature, the admission by the canadian inquiry into somalia's involvement of cover up in the murder of a number somalis in Hiiraan, the cover up by the united nations of the result of the inquiry in to the UN mission to somalia, the cover up of the United States report of inquiry in to their involvement in somalia under the pretext of being classified information, the belgian murder of somalis, the aquiting of belgium soldiers who murdered somalis (see pictures- http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9704/17/belgium.somalia/#1 ), the murder of somalis by italian soldiers, the violation by Ethiopia in to Somalia, the taking over of several Somali embassies etc.. And now after all that all of a sudden the United Nations is eager to recognise a government that has no roots, legitimacy and goes against all rational, international standards of what is known as a government. For your information a government is suppossed to be in control atleast and this is the minimum, the control of the capital city of the nation. Now the question is does Arta group have any controls in Xamar? If the United Nations was confident of the control in Xamar then the question that comes to mind is why arent they relocating to that place instead of having to issue their reports from Nairobi more than a 1000 miles away? May congratulate the arta group of the tactics of sending a general to Russia at the same time sending "a prime minister" to Washington. How desparate they are for recognision that they have to resort in the old ideology of benefitting the cold-war style of making the US and Russia compete for Somalia. The funny thing is that it works. Washington will never stay idle where Russians are involved. But the problem is that recognition that matters is in Somalia which in Galaydh's own admission is not forthcomimg and have ceased contact with all other factions in Somalia.
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| | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 11:42 am Alex...bro I solute u, I guess u ready to move in Mpls....bro let me give u an advice. 1-If u have wife and Kids, u can move Mpls. 2-If u wanna open a Business depended on Somalis, u can move Mpls 3-If u like to chat Somalis every minute, u can move Mpls. 4-If u wanna deal with barbarian Somalis specially Somali men, u can move Mpls. Obviously, living in Metropolitan Washington, DC is so expensive, but believe me it's worthy to live there...when u meet Somalis in Mpls...u will surprise a lot. Alex, if u come Mpls while I'm here plz!! promise me that u will introduce me who u r if we meet. Bro how about those Baltimore Raven's.
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| | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 12:48 pm Good Afternoon YMCA people. Axoow Brother, I’m glad you hear from you. Brother I have to be honest with you the boys have been driving me crazy. Man they keep telling me to at least the dam place. They are telling me that people are nice and not stuck up like here. The most important thing that they tell me is that the girls are nicer then the once here. And we all know the reason guys visit place to began with. EEDADEY AYAAN SOO SALAAMAYAA. That is the worst bull I have ever heard Anyway bro I plan on going there on spring break ( Not that I go to school ). At least I think that is when there is no snow on the ground. Axoow don’t worry one day I will introduce myself to you, but the problem is I will have to kill you right after that, and I don’t want to do that to a dear friend that I have known for over 15 years. Don’t worry as long as you promise to keep my identity for my security. Let me give you some news about Washington area. People in Virginia are still arguing on the same issues. I heard that they had a band from Europe visited the city. That is it. Now you know why I want to join you. Go Baltimore go. Mr Cool: With all due respect Mr Cool I have done all the things that I have been told including my perfume from Brute 33 to good and expensive once thanks to my employee discount at the Macys’s. Anyway here is what I’m going to do next. Read this link. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010117/wr/cybersex_dc_3.html Please investigate this for me since it’s in your neck of the woods. Tell Ladan that Alex is about to do crazy things. Caraweelo; What is up? I got a solution for the little one. Actually this is what I would do if I was married and had a little one at home and wanted to play with the wife and the little one will not go to bed. PUT SOMETHING IN THE BOTTLE. I’m sorry it seams crazy, but that is what temptation will do to you. Just a thought: I hear you brother let me see how you get out of this. The latest news from Galkacayo is no one from outside Somalia is allowed to run for an office and no one who holds a foreign passport can run for an office. Why is that? Not that I’m planing to run, nor Am I allowed to run. By the way Washington is no longer worried about Russia, and Washington doesn’t mind Russia selling AK-47 they rather see them sell AK-47 then Nuclear Bombs to you know who “ Terrorists.” In my view your best argument was All sides have to agree no matter what outsiders say or whom they recognize as the legitimate representative. You could have said Siyad barre was a legitimate Government and see what happened to him. Suddenly what do you I’m a small time analyst.
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| | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 09:58 am Come on Caraweelo you are not busy with the textbooks. I can see some of the villagers have taken more courses than they could handle, I don’t think it’s the same case for you. Don’t worry they give out honorary diplomas for those who do well for the society. It’s a sad they for me, my role model the reverend Jesse Jackson has been busted. Now all my role models could not control themselves. First Jim Baker then Hue Grant, Bill Clinton and now The Reverend Jesse Jackson. Caraweelo there is a study out that says men are the weaker sex. What I don’t understand is how do they define what is the weaker sex, and did men agree on that definition. Just a thought: Brother how would you define the weaker sex? Now where are those anonymous people who complain that I’m full of you know what. I have watched Temptation island last night. So far I predict the black couple will break up at the end of the show. Take care.
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| | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 01:25 pm Salaam all, Alex, you are a one-man show. Actually you would be surprised at how busy I am: I already have papers due and tests to study for, I am tutoring a group of kids who don't seem to understand the difference between "tutoring" and "doing their work for them", and I am (finally!) dating. lol. I bet that made everyone pause. So what's new with you? How long have you been driving a cab anyway? Is it true that a cab driver's car has to be less than five years old? I think that Minneapolis, like New York, is a great place to visit but you wouldn't want to live there. I went to see my sister last summer and had a blast: they had this wonderful Somali Independence Day celebration (I actually learned the whole national anthem) But I was glad to return to my little town..... Caraweelo: I still haven't used up my gift certificate to the movies.... Wednesday night I watched this great nature show on the Discovery Channel. It was about sharks--I loved it. So I am thinking of using the ticket to go to the Imax instead.... I can watch "What Women Want" when it comes out on video. I think Mel Gibson is a real heartthrob too, and unlike most other good looking actors, he's funny too. BTW, I am fledging fan of X-files, but unfortunately I don't find the time to watch it often. So, what's new? TLG, Your field (molecular biology) tempted me briefly in my second year. But cell biology is undisputably the best part of biology (I did well on it last semester ). The micro labs are a little tedious, but the immunology labs rock!! See, here they combine microbiology and immunology into a single program, and since I wanted immunology I got stuck with it's ugly sibling. BTW, the three-domain system is already thought at the microbiology level....for example, we have to know the differences between bacteria and archaea (and there are tons). I know what you mean about going out there and facing the real world. I have decided to go on to do post-graduate so I can stay in my cocoon a leetle bit longer! Lady Jane, What's new sis? How are your resolutions holding up? Hey I read this funny cartoon in the paper today: this man is pumping his fists in the air and yelling "I broke another one!" And in the caption at the bottom it says something like, "Harry never did catch on to the point of New Year's resolutions". Hey, you're absolutely right about how good going up hill is for my calves (and other places)! Now they are rock-solid, if you press a spoon against my right calf, the spoon bends. Move over Uri Geller! Mr. Cool: Welcome back sis, and don't ever change your username regardless of what some stuffy gentleman says... Take care everyone.
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| | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 01:37 pm Alex: Where did you read about this study about men being the weaker sex? Not that it's saying anything we women haven't know for a long time. But still, I am going to frame the article and hang it on my wall. But first I will magnify it 100 times. Today my prof told us a funny joke about male aggression: You know those caricatures of Stone Age man dragging a woman by the hair to his cave with a club over his shoulder? Our prof said to figure out who has a better chance of being represented in the next generation: the tough manly hunters going out every morning and spending the whole day catching prey, or the puny little guy who stands by the cave door and waves them off, promising to look after the ladies?
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| | Friday, January 19, 2001 - 04:28 am Caraweelo Thank you dear and greetings to you too. It has been a while indeed. The weather? It is a killer. Today I was having launch with my human thingy when a fire started by itself on the road. All we could see was smoke, then more leafs that were on the ground (sidewalks) starting to burn for no reason. It is freaky cause you can see that there is no one that is causing the fire. Don't ask my New Year's cause I can't remember what I did. You should come down here if you love summer. I am talking about above 41degrees that is how bad it gets. All you will have is headaches. Well the only thingy I love about it is getting the tan.
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| | Friday, January 19, 2001 - 05:34 am Alex Maybe you should check in the mirror again. Ok. Here is a thing, when you see yourself in the mirror what do you see? Whoever you see in that mirror is what women see. So if you look like a desperado (God forbid and I am sure you are not), then that is what women see. If you look like a fine decent looking man, then dear you have nothing to worry about. Because that is what ladies see. My dear, cybersex is not the answer to your problems. Here is why it isn't…. It is true when they say that the line between real and virtual is disappearing. Who are we to say what is real or what it isn't? For instance, a phone conversation, is that real? It is not, it is a cyber one, nonetheless, it feels like it. We might substitute or replace the need to spend time with people/friends in real life with cyber/virtual people/friends. However, can you substitute through the net your desires (now be gentle and understand and don't make me spell it out!) with a virtual lover? Now don't lie to yourself like that. We both know that is not going to happen. Although couple of Computer Scientists Professors actually said that in the future we might reach an era where eating and drinking will be the only real thing. Nevertheless they presumed that even the eating and drinking may not be necessary. The question is "if we are able to communicate with other people in cyber, why can't we have a virtual relationships?" We are able to replace real friends with virtual ones, there is no much of a difference emotionally, however, physically there is. Sometimes you need to hold your friends or give hugs or even have coffee with them. Again emotionally you are able to replace a real lover with a virtual one. Is that all you want? You don't have to tell me your answer. I know it already but I just wanted to make you think that is all. You are not insane. You can't hurry love my dear. Let it go. When you expect the least it will show up. That is if you only believe in it. Do you think there is such thing as "Ms Right" or "Mr. Right"? Do you believe that you are "Mr. Right"? There is no such thing! Nothing is perfect in life. Is all about having someone that you are comfortable with, and you like to share your time with. If that someone is sweet, gentile and all the other crap that we ask for…. It all points to the comfortable word. When you find the person that you are comfortable with, then you found your lover/wife my dear.
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| | Friday, January 19, 2001 - 05:40 am Just a thought Yeah right. Deeqa Thank you sis, I never changed my username, infact I like it Its good to see that you support my nut nick I see you are dating…. Heheh how is it going? I hope is good.
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| | Friday, January 19, 2001 - 09:45 am Salaam ya'll Anonymous, you must be one of those morons I smoked in the islam forums when s/he attempted to rant the "tyranny of Islam" against women. Why bring this to this peaceful crowd? come back to the Islam folder so that I can do the honors of giving you a taste of your wrong philosphies about Islam. To all the the rest of your civilized villagers, sorry for the miserable interruption. Deeqa, lol sis...your messages are always cute and funny. The calf/spoon one was hellarious :-) I know what u mean about extending your stay in the cocoon. Seems to be the only option for many of us. By the way, Are you waiting for those Med School interviews like some of us are? Alex, thanks for your lil help with Anonymous. I see u can be quite senstive with people, re:anonymous.
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| | Friday, January 19, 2001 - 11:14 am Alex There is nothing like a weaker sex or rather those who you those words are confused and do not understand the true meaning of the words. Male and female are different the same way the five fingers on your hand are different. The functions that can be carried out best by each sex is different too but by no mean does the different in functions mean a weakness but rather to adaptability. The fact that you can drive a cab well can not be interpreted to be that you are superior than Deeqa who is in a different field of biology, neither will you be weaker if you have no understanding of the intricacies of cells. Carawelo, Should we allow power hungry people to shape our thinking or should we shape their thinking to our own advantage? "Mr cool" why don’t you join the dating club after all it is the dating season? If I may ask you what comes first a dating period or love?
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| | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 04:10 am Just a thought I like how you quote my nick. Is like you are asking if I am cool. Isn't it? You show certain sarcasm for some reason. Relax! What comes first a dating period or love? I don't know about you or others but for myself LOVE comes first before dating! How can you date someone that you are not even attracted too? Why don't I join dating club? Simple, I am not interested. I am not the type of woman that would join dating clubs, I never hunt, and I am the one who gets hunted dear. So don't you worry about finding me a man. Oh yeah one more thingy…. I do have a man. So relax worry for yourself.
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| | Monday, January 22, 2001 - 03:10 am Good morning and I welcome all the Republicans to Washington DC. Thank god all of those Liberals have left us. Now we can make $$$$ HA NA DHAAFAAN MADOW, YAHUUD, LAGA ROONE IYO NATIONAL ORGANIZATION OF WOMEN. Deeqo: The text of men are he weaker sex, I have read it on Microsoft network. Did you say that you are dating? First good for you second isn’t dating kind of illegal in our religion? I see Jesse Jackson in you. First he tells kids to abstain from sex then what do you know he was doing it even while he was consulting with Clinton. A long time ago we had The mayor of DC telling kids not to do crack, what do you know he was doing it. Now I have deeqo who use to tell me not to do what the GAAL does, what do you know she is doing it herself. You know I have stopped hitting on Somali girls at the shopping mall. (Not that the cleaned me out at the Pentagon mall and Tyson’s corner I don’t know why they don’t shop at wall mart?) I’m concentrating on the mosque after you and other people have told me to stop doing the wrong things. What do you know Deeqo is in the middle of a scandal. ): ): Mr Cool: Mr Cool I have checked the mirror, I have surrounded mirrors all over me, I have spoken to the mirrors and said “ Mirror Mirror on the wall” Like Diana Ross said in her song. The mirror responded like this. Hey you EL CHIPO, Stop taking the new girls who move from Canada and other place to Montgommery Ward and wall mart. My god take them to the real malls, because as soon as they find a MACAANE they are gone. So Now I may have to became a MACAANE I don’t know, all I know is I’m going to move to Minneapolis Minnesota soon. Just a thought; I like you explanation brother. Not all our fingers are the same and certain people are good at some things while others are good at other things. I have a question to ask you brother since you are better then me at this. I hear nowadays that Ethiopia is our enemy again Am I missing something here. Fill me in brother. Take care all
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| | Monday, January 22, 2001 - 06:12 am Alex What do you mean by MACAANE? A Sweety because that is what it stands for in our language. If you mean something else please explain. About the mirror... EL CHIPO? I believe that means cheep (well forgive me if my Spanish a bit cracked). My friend cheep guys go with cheep girls. Take off that prize tag that is attached to you that says 50% OFF. Sale yourself for full prize. Sales are no good! There are people like that think when things are for sale there is something wrong with it. It either expired or it has a major failure in somewhere else. So please FULL PRISE. What is this story of you hitting on the poor girls? For once let women hit on ya! Mind you that is very indeed sexy
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| | Monday, January 22, 2001 - 08:19 am Mr Cool, who wears the pants in your relationship, you or your Man
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| | Monday, January 22, 2001 - 12:56 pm Alex Have you ever asked yourself why Ethiopia all of a sudden became a major enemy now than a few months ago? Facts 1) Ethiopia had presence in Somalia for a number of years (inside the internationally recognised borders of Somalia) 2) None of those who are making noises against Ethiopian presence in Somalia were doing that more than a few months ago but were infact visiting and congratulating themselves in the good relationship they had with Ethiopia. 3)The Ogaden region is a disputed area which can not be solved militarily and neither with the a bad blood relationship. 4)Ethiopian presence is being condoned by somali citizen who themselves feel insecure while those who are making the noise right now have done nothing about reducing that insecurity but rather have agrevated it by using threatening language and actions without drawing a clear line between those somalis and the Ethiopians. 5) We are muslims and we are supposed to remove those Ethiopian who have invaded our country and thus they are an enemy. 6)At the same time we have an obligation to live in peace within ourselves.
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| | Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 08:02 am My you have been busy! Alex- right you are! I am not with the books- but DEPRESSED. The Elephants are here. Oh Why? Oh Why? Oh Why! and my friend Clinton is bye-bye! boo hoo hoo hoo! NOT! I was actually partying like nobody's business. at least- this administration- yahuud kuma jirto! Papa Bush's people are back in town and Isreal is up the creek with no paddle! Loving it! But loose that comment about "NOW"- We are here. And we are here to stay. Just-a-Thought: The twisted leadership, with their twisted tribal cry, are the ones that are molding the masses. Power hungry men will do anything in their power- including using tribalism- to get/remain in power. The somali story is particularly pathetic because the same characters keep playing musical chairs. And the somali people keep falling for their s.h.i.t.
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| | Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 12:43 pm Good afternoon Come people where are you? WABS come on brother no one could be this busy. Uless………… Mr Cool What do you mean full price. Let me ask you this, if I buy her a full price item, do I get a full service? It’s just a thought. Mr Cool Macaane means those guys who are too nice, that is not good I hear. There is not such a cheep girl , just price deference. It depends how someone negotiates. Just a thought: Brother what messes are we in now. I was planing to go back and now what do you give me whole new round of negotiations. Come on brother not all the people are going to be happy 100%. I just want you to know that the U. N will not accept too many mini Somalia. Caraweelo: Come on sister don’t be depressed. It’s a new year, new ideas, new administration ( Not that I like them). New Movies are out. New shows are on TV. New book to read ( such as Black Hawk Down) a book about the Somalia war between the U S rangers and general Aideed) New Parties to go. Weddings to plan. ( in my dreams ONLY). Clinton was a good man. He gave us such a good economic expansion that George will mess up for us. Caraweelo I sense that brother Just a thought doesn’t like the current transitional Government, and you are tired of all of them, don’t you think it’s time that Alex be put in charge? Come on what do you have to loose. It’s not like there is anything happening now. Come on ladies and gentlemen I know you are out there and you complain that there is nothing going on in the village. Hey we can talk how George W bush will screw thing up How about that. Take care, have a great evening don’t forget Wednesday night Temptation Island.
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| | Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 07:56 pm Hello everyone, It is nice to see a place where people can discuss issues in an intelligent and articulate manner...you men aren't doing too bad either:-)). I will try to regularly add my input to this free for all. Alex: Can you come a little closer?...closer.....WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT WHEN YOU URGE US TO WATCH TEMPTATION ISLAND? Sorry, I didn't mean to yell but after watching 10 mins of that shallow boring show, I got a little cranky.
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| | Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 10:12 am LOL! Asiya that was classic! welcome and plse put Alex in his place.
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| | Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 11:01 am Good afternoon to all including those hiding in the bushes Asiya: Hell, I can’t come closer, I have been known to get carried away when I get closer. Asiya I know the show is kind of boring, but I’m hoping for a big splash at the end. Why did you get cranky? Where you hoping for what I was hoping for? If that is the case and if you live in Washington DC area or anywhere on this planet excluding Somalia, we can act on it. I believe things are better acted on than imagined only. What do you think? Craweelo: Mind you own business. QOFYAHEY IL FUUR HA INGU NOQONIN. II FUUTI. This is TEMTETION ISLAND UNFOLDING. I see you as a sunami (SP), or a perfect storm and that is the last thing I need. Aaxoow: Brother Aaxxow what is up. When are you and Omar coming back to VA bro? Big SuperBowl weekend. Baltimore all the way. Just a thought: Brother what are you thinking? I know you are cooking something up. This is the come before the storm. Take it easy.
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| | Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 03:16 pm We would like to formally announce the New and sensational Village tabloid,,,,, FLy On tHe wALL ``` this weekly paper will give you the 411 on villagers. stay tuned.
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| | Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 07:11 pm Caraweelo: Thanks for the welcome. I love the name and if and when Allah blesses me with a daughter, that'll will be her name. As far as putting Alex in his place, I'll do my part but it looks like you, Deeqa, and others are doing a fine job on your own. Alex: Why did I get cranky? Well, for the simple fact that I spent precious moments of my life on your advice mind you, watching pea brain sized women and men trying to tempt or not be tempted. However, it was interesting to see how the women seemed to suffer at the site of their men frolicking on the beach with other women, whereas the men were rather nonchalant when the tables were turned.
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| | Friday, January 26, 2001 - 11:27 am Salaam ya'll, Somehow, i don't really have anything to share today, but just wanted to say salaams and see how the adorable tribe of this village is doing. Ok, take care guys. salaam
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| | Friday, January 26, 2001 - 05:35 pm somebody posted this over the religion forums and i thought post it here. enjoy it. P R E F A C E Soon after I began a prolonged and concentrated study (at the age of nineteen) of Islamic literature existed in English transliteration, in order to obtain more intimate knowledge at first-hand, what it personally meant to be a Muslim, and more detailed information about current events in the Muslim countries than what was ordinarily available in newspapers and magazines, I began correspondence with a dozen young people in Arab world and Pakistan. Most of these pen-friends did not last long because I soon grew bitterly disappointed with their westernized mode of living, their indifference and sometimes outright hostility towards Islamic faith and culture and their childish minds. Finally I decided to develop correspondence with mature and influential Muslim leaders, especially among the ulema. By the close of 1960 I had exchanged letters with Dr. Fadhil Jamali, formerly chief delegate of Iraq at the United Nations, Dr. Mahmud F. Hoballah, then the Director of the Islamic Center in Washington D.C., the late Shaikh Mohammad Bashir Ibrahimi, chief of the Algerian ulema and the soul of the struggle for freedom against French imperialist domination; Dr. Mohammad el-Babey of al-Azhar, Dr. Hamidullah of Paris, Dr. Maruf Dawalibi, noted authority on Islamic Law, Professor of the Shariah at Damascus University and ex-Prime Minister of Syria ; Dr. Said Ramadan, head of the Islamic Center in Geneva, and was trying my hardest to make contact with the late Sayyid Qutb Shahid, at that time serving a long prison sentence in Egypt. Although the activities of the late Shaikh Hassan al-Banna and al Ikhwan al Muslimun had received abundant (though of course, derogatory) publicity in the New York press, Maulana Maudoodi and the Jama'at-e-Islami had not yet attracted much attention from American scholars or journalists. Although for nearly a decade, I had been an avid reader of all books and periodicals in English I could find on Islamic subjects, I had never heard of Maulana Maudoodi and knew nothing whatever of the Jama'at-e-Islami until I came across Mazharuddin Siddiqui's essay in Islam the Straight Path (edited by Kenneth Morgan, Ronald Press, New York, 1958). When by sheer chance I found an excellent article in The Muslim Digest, Durban, under the-same name, at once I was eager to correspond with a man with such uncommon merits, and wrote to the editor of the magazine for his address. I penned my first letter not expecting any more than a single brief reply expressing mutual sympathy for commonly shared ideals. Then I could not possibly foresee that this correspondence would mark the most crucial period in my entire life history. Maulana Maudoodi had no need to persuade me to adopt Islam as I was already on the threshold of conversion and would have taken the final step even without his knowledge. Neither did Maulana Maudoodi exert any decisive impact upon the direction of my literary career. Because I had begun to write essays in defense of Islam more than a year before our acquaintance and the main outlines of my ideas were already firmly established long before we knew of each other's existence. Nevertheless, as a result of this correspondence and consequently a vast increase in knowledge and insight, I grew more articulate and my writings gained in depth and maturity. These letters should be read keeping in view their historical back-ground. In America, John F. Kennedy was President and the country had reached unprecedented heights of political power and economic prosperity. The so-called "Cold War" between Communist Russia under Khrushchev and the Western democracies had just begun to thaw. In Pakistan, President Ayub Khan ruled unchallenged and in order to make his dictatorship secure, had imposed martial law and banned all political parties, including the Jama'at-e-Islami. God-fearing ulema were being harassed and intimidated for daring to criticize the high-handed and arbitrary enforcement of the un-Islamic Family Laws Ordinance against the will of the overwhelming majority of the people. After three and a half years of costly and fruitless psychoanalysis, and two years of hospitalization, I was just emerging from a long, unhappy adolescence filled with loneliness and frustration and was searching to find myself and my proper place in life. It was only due to all-Merciful and Compassionate Allah that at this stage, Maulana Maudoodi gave me the opportunity for a useful life rich in fulfillment by providing the fertile soil from which my endeavors could grow and achieve their fullest expression. MARYAM JAMEELAH Jumada al-Thani 14, 1389 August 28, 1969 New York, December 6, 1960 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maulana Maudoodi, Your splendid article entitled "Life After Death" which appeared in the February 1960 issue of The Muslim Digest of Durban, South Africa was by far the best and most convincing I have ever read on the subject. When I first read about you in Mazharuddin Siddiqi's contribution to Islam the Straight Path (edited by-Kenneth Morgan, Ronald Press, New York, 1958) about Muslims in Pakistan, even though the author was a typical modernist who described you in derogatory terms, I immediately felt myself in complete sympathy with your cause. During the past year I have discovered that I want to devote my life to the struggle against materialistic philosophic-secularism and nationalism which are still so rampant in the world today and threaten not only the survival of Islam but the whole human race. With this goal in mind, I have already written a number of articles, six of which have been published in The Muslim Digest and The Islamic Review of Working, England. My first article entitled "A Critique of Islam in Modern History" written by Professor Wilfred Cantwell Smith, Director of the Islamic Institute at McGill University, Montreal, refutes point by point his arguments that secularism and westernization are compatible with Islam and that Kemal Ataturk's "reforms" in Turkey offer the most desirable model for other Muslim countries to copy. My second article entitled "Nationalism A Menace to the Solidarity of Islam" shows how incompatible and irreconcilable is modern concept of nationalism to the universal Ummah or brotherhood of Islam. My third article which appeared in the June 1960 issue of The Islamic Review and the August 1960 issue of The Muslim Digest is a refutation of Asaf A. Fyzee's (vice-chancellor of Kashmir University) arguments for a westernized Islam, reformed and "liberalized" to the point where it becomes nothing but empty ethical platitudes having no impact upon the shaping of society and its culture. Other articles I have written refute the Turkish sociologist, Ziya Gokalp who tried to hoodwink his readers into believing that nationalism and secularism are compatible with Islam (Kemal Ataturk derived his inspiration directly from him); Sir Sayyid Ahmad Khan who took for his god, nineteenth century European science and philosophy, Ali Abd ar-Raziq who in his Islam and the Principles of Government written just after the abolition of the Ottoman Khalifate, tried to show that the Khalifate was never an integral part of Islam and therefore that religion must be completely and permanently severed from the state. President Habib Bourguiba who last year attacked the fast of Ramadan as responsible for hindering Tunisia's economic development and Dr. Taha Hussain, blind Egyptian intellectual and author who in his Future of Culture in Egypt argues that Egypt is an integral part of Europe and therefore complete westernization and secularization is a necessity. All these so-called Muslim "Progressives" are far more dangerous than any external enemies for they are attacking the very foundations of Islam from within. In writing my articles, my is to open the eyes of my Muslim readers to this fact. Present-day secularism, nationalism and materialism are derived from the philosophers who provoked the French Revolution such as Voltaire, Rousseau, Montesquieux and others like them. Fanatic haters of all religion, they were responsible for the belief that man can progress and achieve salvation without God. The illusion that man is not dependent upon God and that there is no Hereafter, led to the belief that immaterial progress in this life is the supreme goal of the human race. Without this deadly anti-religious atmosphere, such creeds as Marxism, Fascism, Nazism, Pragmatism (as advocated by John Dewy) and Zionism (which caused the Palestine tragedy) could never have taken root. I plan to write another article about this, offering an explanation in greater detail.* Perhaps you are wondering who I am. I am a young American woman, twenty-six years of age who has become so intensely interested in Islam as the only hope for the world that I want to become a convert. My big problem is that there are hardly any Muslims in the suburb of New York where I live and I would feel so terribly isolated. That is why when I saw your article in The Muslim Digest, I wrote to the editor of the magazine for your address, hoping that you will correspond with me. Please send me, if you can, some samples of your writings, particularly the pamphlet you wrote some years ago entitled The Process of Islamic Revolution. Since we share the same ideals and are working toward the same ends in our work, I would like to enjoy contact with you and help you as much as I can in your endeavors. Yours most respectfully, MARGARET MARCUS Lahore, January 21, 1961 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Miss Marcus, Assalam alaikum Your letter dated December 5, 1960 reached here when I had left for Saudi Arabia in response to an invitation extended to me by King Ibn Saud. The King wishes to establish an Islamic University in Medina and he had invited me to prepare a scheme for the same. So I had been away from home for about a month. On my return I received your letter and the three cuttings of your essays. I cannot over-emphasize how pleased I was to read your letter and essays. I have intentionally addressed you in the opening of my letter with the phrase, "Assalaam alaikum" which is the form of greeting peculiar only to Muslims. The reason is that although you are still only thinking about your conversion, I am certain that you are already a Muslim. A person who believes in the unity of God, in Muhammad as His last Prophet and in the Holy Quran as His word and in the life Hereafter is really a genuine Muslim regardless of whether he or she was born into a Jewish, a Christian or a pagan home. Your ideas bear witness to the fact that you believe in the above-mentioned truths. Therefore I regard you as a Muslim and my sister-in-faith. No baptism or any proselytizing ritual before a priest is needed in order to enter the pace of Islam. If you are convinced of the truth than is Islam, you need only to affirm solemnly that "there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is His Prophet." Then you should adopt some Islamic name (i.e. Ayesha or Fatimah) and make a public announcement of your name and religion so that the Muslim world at large should come to know that you are a member of the great fraternity of Islam. Then you should begin to offer the five obligatory prayers daily and follow other Islamic injunctions steadfastly. I find you quite on the threshold of Islam and only one firm step forward will bring you into the fold of the believers. I think this final step will be a natural and logical culmination of your ideas. My personal assistant has sent you several pamphlets, including the one you mentioned. In addition, I am sending you some more books written by me. When I was reading your articles, I felt as if I am reading my own ideas. I hope your feeling will be just the same when you read my books. And this, despite the fact that there has been no previous acquaintance between you and me. This mutual sympathy and unanimity in thought has resulted directly from the fact that both of us have derived our inspiration from one and the same source. These westernized Muslims over whose lack of Islamic spirit you are lamenting, are the worst products of western colonialism in Muslim countries. The greatest blow of colonialism which was administered against us was not in the field of politics or economics but in realm of the mind and spirit. This imperialism has produced many mental slaves among our ranks whose souls even after our political independence remain subjected to the West and who are faithfully following in the steps of their former masters. From this viewpoint, I think our war of liberation has not ended as yet and we have to fight a long-drawn battle against such indigenous foreigners. And now I cannot help expressing my pleasant surprise at one thing. I want to know precisely how and where a young American girl could arrive at such a clear and genuine conception of Islam. Could you find some time to write a brief story of your mental evolution and send it to me? I quite understand your feeling of loneliness for lack of an Islamic society. No doubt this is the most acute agony for a Muslim in a non-Muslim country. But it might give you some consolation to know that in the present world, every true Muslim is sharing these pangs of loneliness with you, though it may be to a lesser degree or in a somewhat different way. If you ever visit Pakistan, it will be my pleasure to meet you and welcome you as my guest. How delightful it would be for me and my family if you could manage to come and keep with us the fast of' Ramadan (falling this year from February 17th to March 18th) ! I will be in Lahore until the end of March. Then I intend to tour Africa where I wish to organize Islamic missionary work there, inshallah. I will return to Lahore by the end of May. I plan to remain in Lahore for the remainder of the year so whenever you come, you will find me at my home. Your brother-in-Islam, ABUL ALA New York, January 31, 1961 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maulana Maudoodi Several days ago I received your gift of English books and Pamphlets which amounted to a small library. I cannot begin to thank you enough, only to tell you that I will keep them and treasure them always. Just yesterday I received your letter in which you told me that when you read my articles, it was as if you were reading your own ideas. I assure you that when I read your books and pamphlets, I felt as if I were reading my very own thoughts only expressed more forcefully and comprehensively than I perhaps ever could write. My two latest articles have been one about the poetry of Allama lqbal*, the only man in the entire contemporary world of Islam who has been able to express in poetry of enduring artistic value what it truly means to be a Muslim and the other entitled, "The Philosophical Sources of Western Materialism" in which I trace the development of Western materialism from its inception in ancient Greece, through the "Renaissance" to its culmination in the form of ideologies like Communism. In the latter I try to show that the evils we are witnessing today are the logical result of a trend lasting more than five hundred years. All the major leaders of Western thought were ardent materialists; in fact, the whole theme of modern Western civilization was its revolt against the Church and ultimately all religious and spiritual values. Thus, materialism is part of the very essence of the West. The leaders of Asia and Africa, as you so aptly pointed out in your pamphlet, Nationalism and India, have been simultaneously taught to despise their native heritage and imbued with the philosophies of materialism. Filled with hatred and resentment against their former Western masters, they are merely flinging the garbage right back into their faces! I mean this as a description of violent upheavals taking place in Asia and Africa now, particularly in the Congo. After what I have read of the violence going on in Africa, I fear for your safety. It is extremely painful for me to read how such Muslim countries as the United Arab Republic slavishly copy Communist Russia and China in their foreign policies in Africa. I would like to be sympathetic with such countries as the United Arab Republic but can discern nothing which could be called Islamic in the policies of its government. A gullible Muslim might like to rejoice in the efforts Nasser is making to promote the cause of Islam in Africa. But it is clear beyond doubt that he is not so much interested in furthering the case of the Faith than merely using it as a slogan instrumental in the extension of his own personal glorification and prestige. It is my deep and sincere conviction that your understanding of Islam as you present it in your books, Towards Understanding Islam and Islamic Law and Constitution as well as all the pamphlets (you were so kind to send me) is the only correct interpretation and I hope I will not be considered narrow-minded to say so. I respect you and what you do because you adhere to Islam in its pristine purity and refuse to compromise to propitiate the whims of the "times" or adulterate it with alien philosophies. As you present Islam in your writings, I believe this is the superior way of life and the only road to Truth. Tragically, there are many Muslims who disagree. Many the time I have met young Muslim students studying in New York colleges and universities who try to assure me that Kemal Ataturk was a good Muslim. And that Islam must submit to the criteria of contemporary philosophies and any Islamic principle or practice that conflicts with modern Western culture must be discarded. Such thinking is praised as "liberal”, "forward-looking," and "progressive" while those who think as we do are branded as "reactionaries" and "fanatics" who refuse to face the realities of the day. One point in your booklet, Nationalism and India which deserves special mention was your opposition to Muslims wearing Western clothing. Many would dismiss this as a trivial matter but I consider it of the utmost importance. Did not the Holy Prophet himself say that "whoever imitates the unbelievers is one of them"? I think that the Muslim should feel proud to express the fact in his distinctive physical appearance. That is why whenever I see a Muslim leader dressed completely in Western clothing and clean-shaven, I cannot help but consider his faith defective because in his dress, he is advertising to the world that he is ashamed of his true identity. Have you ever read Islam at the Crossroads by Muhammad Asad which takes up this subject at length? It is not surprising why you should be astonished how a girl born into a typical American home could adopt Islam so now I will tell you how it happened. When I was ten years old, attending reformed Jewish Sunday school, I soon became enthralled with the tragic history of the Jews. I was particularly fascinated with the story of Abraham and his sons, Ishmael and Isaac; of Isaac who was supposed to be the father of the Jews and Ishmael, the father of the Arabs. Not only were the Jews and Arabs originally kindred peoples but their history is intertwined at many periods. I learned that under Muslim rule, Particularly in - Spain, that the Jews experienced their Golden Age of Hebrew culture. Being ignorant, of course, of the sinister nature of Zionism, I naively thought that the Jews of Europe were returning to Palestine in order to become true Semites again and live like Arabs ! I was very excited by the prospects that the Jews and Arabs would co-operate and together create a new Golden Age such as occurred in Spain. Throughout my adolescence I suffered from what amounted to social ostracism in school because I liked to spend so much of my time reading books in the library and had no interest in the opposite sex, parties, dancing, cinema, clothes, jewels or cosmetics. I thought that smoking cigarettes was a vulgar habit and a waste of money. Despite the fact that one must drink at parties to be socially acceptable and my parents consider moderate indulgence in wine inseparable from the "good things of life", I have never touched liquor. Since I shared few interests in common with the girls and boys my age, I had almost no friends throughout the eight years of junior and senior high school. During my second year at New York University, I met a young girl also from a Jewish home who had decided to embrace Islam. As passionately interested in the Arabs as I was, she introduced me to many of her Arab and Muslim friends in New York. She and I attended the same class taught by a Jewish rabbi which was entitled "Judaism in Islam." The rabbi tried to prove to his students under the guise of "comparative religion" that everything good in Islam was borrowed directly from the Old Testament, the Talmud and the Midrash. Our textbook (Judaism In Islam, Abraham I. Katsh, Washington Square Press, New York, 1954) written by this same rabbi set down the second and third Surahs of the Quran verse by verse, tracing their origins from alleged Jewish sources. Interspersed with this was a liberal sprinkling of Zionist propaganda in many films and colored slides glorifying the Jewish state. Ironically enough, instead of convincing me of the superiority of Judaism over Islam, this course converted me to the opposite view. Despite the fact that in the Old Testament, there are some universal concepts of God and high moral ideals as preached by the Prophets, Judaism has always retained its tribal, nationalistic character. Despite some noble idealism, the Jewish scriptures is like a Jewish history book and their God a tribal god. The narrow-minded parochialism has found its modern expression (although in a thoroughly secular form) in Zionism. The Premier of Israel, David Ben-Gurion believes in no personal, super-natural God, never attends synagogue, and observes no Jewish laws, customs or rituals yet he is considered, even by the most pious and orthodox of Jews, to be one of the greatest Jews of our times. Most Jewish leaders consider God as some super real-estate agent who parcels out land for their exclusive benefit ! Zionism has made the worst aspects of modern Western materialistic nationalism its very own. Only such a philosophy of expediency and opportunism could justify in their minds such a ruthless campaign to exile the majority of Arabs and trample on the pitiful minority who remained in "Israel" and then style themselves as the bearers of "progress" and "enlightenment" to a "benighted" Arab world! Although "Israel's" scientific and technological development is superior, this material advancement combined with the most reactionary tribal, "chosen people" morality, I believe is a major threat to the peace of the world. I once heard Golda Meir address the United Nations General Assembly; "I oppose anybody who disputes Israel's right to security by retaining all Arab territories occupied by conquest. The only ethics that concerns us is the survival of Jewish people in the Jewish State !" (Never mind, Mrs. Golda Meir, about the survival, much less the well-being of any other people ! ) Then too, I soon discovered that Jewish scholars nursed even more enmity towards the Prophet Muhammad than the Christians. The hypocrisy of reformed Judaism was equally unacceptable. Thus although of Jewish origin, I cannot identify my ideals and aspirations with the Jewish people. As neither of my parents are observant Jews and are the most firmly convinced of the necessity for American Jews to think, live, look and behave exactly like other Americans. After two years of the Jewish religious school, I was enrolled in the educational system of the Ethical Culture Movement founded by the late Dr. Felix Adler in the closing decades of the 19th century. In your booklet, The Ethical View-point of Islam, you referred to this agnostic humanist movement which rejects the supernatural foundation of moral values, regarding them are purely relataed man-made. I attended weekly instruction at the Ethical Culture school for four years until I graduated at the age of fifteen. From that time until I entered Rabbi Katsh’s class at New York University in October 1954, I was a thorough-going atheist and contemptuously dismissed all organized Orthodox religions as superstition. One day in class, Rabbi Katsh gave the students a lecture where he argued why all the ethical values cherished as the universal inherent right of every man are absolute and God-given and not man-made and relative as I had been previously been taught to think. I forget the specific arguments but only remember that they were so logical and convincing to me that this marked the turning point of my life. As I studied the Quran more and more deeply, I began to realize why Islam and Islam alone had made the Arabs a great people. Without the Quran, the Arabic language would probably be extinct now. At best. minus Quran, Arabic would be as obscure and insignificant as Zulu! All other Arabic literature and culture owes its existence to the Quran. Therefore Arabic culture and Islam are inseparable. Without the latter the former would have no international importance. Although my parents can't understand my antagonism against the culture in which they raised me and especially my hostile feelings about Zionism, they give me the freedom to lead my own life. At first they tried to discourage my involvement in Islam, fearing that this would alienate me from them and the rest of the family. But now that they see how determined I am, they assure me they will not try to stop me from conversion or put any obstacles in the way of leading the life that makes me happy. Even though they hold contrary views to mine on almost everything, they are tolerant and broadminded enough no matter how much they may disapprove, never to threaten to disinherit me or cut their ties. What a contrast to Orthodox Jewish parents who consider a child who embraces another religion as dead! Yesterday I went to the Islamic Foundation in New York, where the Imam, Dr. Nuruddin Shoreibah, who is a graduate of Al-Azhar, is now teaching me how to recite the five daily prayers in Arabic in preparation for the fast of Ramadan which I intend to undertake for the first time. Whether it is best that we work together or independently is for you to decide as we both stand for the same ideals. On the basis of what I have written you in this lengthy letter, I would be most grateful for any suggestions you have to offer. Respectfully yours, MARGARET MARCUS Lahore, February 25, 1961 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Miss Marcus, Assalaam alaikum warahmatullah Your detailed letter dated January 31st arrived here a bit late. I am sorry that I failed to send a prompt reply due to some unavoidable preoccupations. I am afraid all this delay has put you to inconveniences for which I must offer my apologies. I studied your life-sketch with great care and interest. As I read it, I came to realize how an open and unbiased mind can find access to the Right Path provided it makes a sincere and steady effort. The story of your sufferings, tribulations and mental anguish contained nothing unexpected for me. If a person is passing through a constant implacable conflict with his social surroundings and is at a loss to find even a single trace of sympathy or appreciation in his mental or moral environment, it would be unusual indeed if his or her nerves do not undergo a final collapse. Your maladjustment is a natural consequence of the incompatibility between you and your society. Your temperament and taste, your ideas, your habits and conduct all are fundamentally different from those peculiar to the society you live in. The constant friction could have done you much more harm than what it really did. You seem to be just like an Equatorial sapling implanted into the Arctic Zone and you had to face the inevitable. Every person can best grow and shine in a favorable atmosphere. In a hostile climate one is apt to lose or dubbed to have lost one's mental balance and all one's capabilities are likely to wither away. Similar are the reasons for your being still unmarried. Your society can not like the type of woman that you are. All your merits are considered as defects there. You cannot possibly find a true life-companion in your present set-up, and if you are artificially tied to a person there, it could hardly prove to be desirable or successful matrimonial arrangement. Ever since your first letter, I have been pondering over your problems. I think that you must choose between two alternatives. Either you should start to work openly for Islam in America and gather a group of sympathizers and co-workers around you or you should migrate to a Muslim country, preferably Pakistan. Now for me, it is not easy to decide which alternative would be best suited for you. It depends upon your circumstances and aptitudes which you know better. But this much I can say that if you come to live in Pakistan, you will find yourself amidst many like-minded people barring the language difference. God-willing, you will receive here all moral as well as material support and encouragement. Moreover, there is every likelihood here that you may find a virtuous young Muslim to be your life-companion. When you are in Pakistan, I can offer every possible help to you but I am-sorry to say that I am unable to assist you in your passage from America to Pakistan because of the very stringent restrictions on foreign exchange here. I do hope that your parents as your well-wishers will not stand in the way of your choice. They should not fail to keep in view the fact that if their daughter is forced to live in inclement weather, not only will she be doomed to lead a life of despair but there is every danger of nervous breakdown. On the other hand, if she is fortunate enough to find a friendly and suitable social atmosphere, her mind will be restored to full health and vigor and she will be able to lead a useful and productive life. I think once they are able to grasp this point fully, no resistance will be encountered on their part. Rather, it is not improbable that they will welcome my suggestions. You have asked me about the book, Islam at the Crossroads. I have read that book along with other writings by Muhammad Asad and I had the opportunity of personal acquaintance with him when after accepting Islam, he settled in the Indo-Pak sub-continent. Perhaps you may be interested to know that he is also of (Austrian) Jewish origin. I have great respect for his exposition of Islamic ideas and especially his criticism of Western culture and its materialistic philosophies. I am sorry to say, however, that although in the early days of his conversion, he was a staunch, practicing Muslim, gradually he drifted close to the ways of the so-called "progressive" Muslims just like the "reformed" Jews. Recently his divorce from his Arab wife and marriage to a modern American girl hastened this process of deviation more definitely. Although these melancholy facts cannot be disputed, much less justified, yet I cannot blame him too much for this. At the time we met during the first years after his conversion, very welcome and pleasant changes were brought about in his life. But once man beings to live the life of a true Muslim, all his capabilities lose their "market value." It is the same sad story with Muhammad Asad, who had always been accustomed to a high and modern standard of living and after embracing Islam, had to face the severest financial difficulties. As a result, he was forced to make one compromise after another. Still I hope that despite these adverse changes, his ideals and convictions have not altered even though his practical life has suffered many modifications. Our Holy Prophet Muhammad (God's blessings be upon him) once said that a time would come when to follow his ways would be like holding a live coal in one's hands. This prophecy has been fulfilled. Now-a-days if a man or woman tries to practice the teachings of Islam, stiff resistance is encountered by materialistic civilization at each and every step. The whole environment turns hostile to such a Muslim. Either he must be forced to compromise or he will constantly be at loggerheads with society. The strongest and most steady nerves are indispensable for such a resolute and unremitting struggle. Have you contacted the Islamic Centers in Washington D.C. or Montreal, which may be useful for you? The address of the Islamic Center of Montreal is as follows: (The Islamic Center, 1345 Red Path Crescent, Montreal-2, and Quebec, CANADA). Thank you for expressing your sincere anxiety for my safety as regards my forthcoming African tour. Fortunately the parts of this continent to which I am presently planning my journey are quite safe and peaceful. I intend to go to Somaliland, Kenya, Uganda, Tanganyika, Zanzibar, Mauritius and the Republic of South Africa, all of which contain large communities of Indo-Pakistan and Arab Muslims and with their help, I hope to further the propagation of Islam in Africa. I quite understand your bewildering thoughts about President Nasser. Far from being a defender of Islam, his cruel hands are drenched deep in innocent martyrs' blood. By ruthlessly crushing al Ikhwan al Muslimun, he has administered an irreparable blow to the Islamic forces in the Arabic-speaking world. He his at least four tongues in his mouth. When he speaks to the Egyptians, he says, "We are the sons of Pharaoh" (and he sets up in the public squares of Cairo gigantic statues of Remeses II - that cursed Pharaoh of oppression). When he speaks to the Arab world, he says, "We are part and parcel of a single glorious Arab nation." When he addresses the Africans at large, he tries to become their self-styled exponent and mouthpiece. Recently he has started to trumpet the "Voice of Islam" over Radio Cairo because it suits his convenience and strategy. Unscrupulous adventurers like him can never serve the cause of Islam. Only selfless, sincere, modest and uncompromising Mujahids, who are ready to sacrifice every personal gain and ambition and lay down their lives at the altar of Islam, can do this. I am extremely happy to know that you have become an observant Muslim and have begun to offer daily prayers and keep fast on Ramadan. I congratulate you for this and pray to Allah that He may you keep always steadfast and progressing on the path of Islam. Sincerely yours, ABUL ALA New York, March 8,1961 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maulana Maudoodi, I received your last letter of February 25th which made me so happy to read your detailed and thoughtful reply to all the things which have for so long weighed heavily upon my mind. Enclosed is a photo-essay from Look Magazine about the latest fashions in women's dress, which to me are so repulsive that I refuse to conform and would rather be struck dead than seen wearing it. American and European fashion designers appear to do all they can to make the modern Western woman look like a street- walker. Even professional prostitutes do not go to the extremes of these so-called "respectable" women. Oscar Wilde stated the truth when he once said that fashion is something so ugly, it has to be changed every six months! One of the functions of clothes, of course, is modesty and, as you can see from the pictures in the article, modern Western fashions for women are designed exclusively for commercialized sex. One of the very first things I did after accepting Islam and saying my prayers, was to lengthen all my skirts. My relatives were most surprised to see me wearing skirts almost to the ankles when all the women are wearing their dresses above the knee. There is loud propaganda in American popular magazines about the increasing "emancipation" of women in Muslim lands due to the impact, of course, of Western education and the mass-media. Although I believe that every woman should be educated for the fullest use of her intellectual capacities, I certainly question the advantages of taking women out of the home (particularly those with young children) to compete in business offices and factories with men and substituting nurseries and kindergartens for a home upbringing. This is exactly what has happened in Soviet Russia and Communist China where the so-called "emancipation" of women is being deliberately used by the rulers to destroy the family, lesser degree, a similar situation exists in my country. To a lesser degree, a similar situation exists in my country. What you said about Muhammad Asad in your last letter shocked and saddened me deeply. I never suspected even from his most recent writings and letters to me that he was not a staunchly observant Muslim. I can never forget that splendid chapter in his book, Islam at the Crossroads, about the necessity for Muslims to strictly follow the Sunnah as well as the Quran if Islam is to survive and flourish. His arguments for the authenticity of Hadith were so sound and convincing, and his deep feeling for Islam so evident, despite what you told me about his financial difficulties, I couldn’t help but wonder why he changed his mind. I pray to Allah that such a thing will never happen to me. Could you please describe in some detail the program you outlined for the new Islamic University of King lbn Saud? At first I thought that the university would be modeled on the pattern of al-Azhar. But just a few days ago I read an article which said that the proposed university would be essentially secular, patterned on Western lines with Islamic studies only a small and incidental part of the curriculum. The same article described King lbn Saud's plans to rebuild the entire cities, of Mecca and Medina. Although I know that so many of the ancient buildings in the holy cities are antiquated and in desperate need of repair, I only hope that the new buildings will be constructed in conformity to the Islamic style of architecture because the whole atmosphere in these places would be ruined if they are copied from the ultra-modern fashions. Personally I abhor modern architecture because it conflicts with every criteria of beauty, symmetry, grace and warmth. Every time I visit the United Nations headquarters (which is an outstanding example of modern architecture) I am repelled by the bleakness, barrenness and coldness of the high-rise buildings which look like nothing more than giant boxes with glass windows. I think that the contemporary architecture which is giving our cities an uglier face every day, is a prefect- reflection of the rejection of all spiritual values by those who design them. Far better for Mecca and Medina to remain old and even dilapidated than go the way of our modern cities. Although I knew nothing about the Islamic Center in Montreal until you told me about it in your last letter, ever since its completion in 1957, I have kept in constant contact with the mosque in Washington. Last summer I made a special trip to Washington just to see it and talk with the Director, Dr. Mahmoud F. Hoballah whom, like Dr. Shoreibah, is a graduate of al-Azhar. The Washington mosque was built in conformity to traditional Muslim architecture and is as beautiful as any elsewhere in the world. The only thing, which saddened me, is that the Washington authorities do not permit the Adhan to be called from the minaret lest that annoy the non-Muslim residents in the area as a "public nuisance!" And the mosque is only for the Jumaa prayers. Attendance as far as I could observe for the five daily prayers is almost nil. Do you know about the campaign against the fast of Ramadan being carried on by the President of Tunisia, Habib Bourguiba? He claims that the fast is injurious to health and is responsible for Tunisia's economic backwardness because industrial production slows down during that period. Those who insist on observing the fast are maligned as "reactionaries." The chief target of President Bourguiba's venom is 'the Rector of Zaituna University which has for centuries a major center of Islamic education in North Africa. I have read in the newspapers that in the Soviet Union each year as Ramadan approaches, the Communists intensify their propaganda against Islam. Communist propaganda for domestic consumption never fails to stress the economic destructiveness of Ramadan, arguing that a factory or farm worker exhausted from fasting or a Muslim who stops work to say his prayers is sabotaging national productivity. Even though Habib Bourguiba is supposed to be such a great friend of the Western democracies, he uses exactly the same tactics against Ramadan as the Communists. Do you know the Orientalist, Dr. Wilfred Cantwell Smith who is Director of the Institute of Islamic Studies at McGill University in Montreal? If so, did you ever read his book, Islam in Modern History, the theme of which is Islam as the Holly Prophet preached and practiced, is "out-of-date" and must accept secularization and modernization if it is to survive in the future? In the chapter about Pakistan, here is what he has to say about you: “..... Maudoodi would present Islam as a system, one that long ago provided mankind with set answers to all its problems rather than as a faith in which God provides mankind anew each morning the riches whereby it may answer them for itself... Modern tendencies would view Maudoodi's system as dated, as inadequate in scope and too rigid in form to represent faithfully those imperatives for today and would seek the truth of Islam more in the realm of values, dynamics and spirit... Furthermore, to judge from his own expositions, it would appear that he aims at imposing his system on Pakistan, if he can contrive to get his group into a position of power, also in a rigorously systematic fashion Maudoodi evinces but scant concern both for the human beings and their individual welfare who would live under his rule, His ideology seems to make little Allowance either for the wishes and even the integrity of the ruled or for the propensity which men in positions of authority have all too often demonstrated through human history to distort even the finest of schemes by individual aberration... Maudoodi's movement is a compromise and an adaptation between previous Islamic history and the demands of modern life from which he abstracts for his static pattern, rather than a creative vision....” Since I know that when this letter reaches you, you will be too busy with your preparations for your tip to Africa to answer, I will not be expecting your reply until after you return to Lahore at the end of May. Sincerely yours, MARGARET MARCUS Lahore, April 1, 1961 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Miss Marcus, Assalaam alaikum wa rahmatullah. Your letter dated March 8th had arrived here promptly but I could not reply earlier due to my indifferent health. Since the middle of Ramadan, I have been suffering from a severe and constant pain in my right shoulder and no treatment as yet has given me relief. Doctors have finally advised me to have a deep X-ray treatment. I have read your letter with much interest. The pictures of American feminine dress sent by you are no news for me. We usually see European and American women here in Lahore in a similar fashion. I have seen Arab women in Cairo, Beirut and Damascus moving about in this very same kind of dress. I simply cannot imagine how a woman with any sense of decency could thus attire herself even in her own home before her nearest relatives, not to speak of going out like that. I am very much pleased to know how much you despise this form of dress. If you manage to learn Arabic or Urdu and study direct the detailed instructions which the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of God be upon him) has given pertaining to women, I hope you will find them exactly corresponding and appropriate to the real womanly nature, The social role which the Western woman is being made to play, is not in reality "emancipation" but perversion and enslavement and as a result of false and misleading propaganda, women are trying to "dewomanize" themselves. They think it is degrading to fill their natural place in life and to perform the tasks assigned to them by nature. Instead they seek honor in manly pursuits. Western civilization has proved to be very cruel to its womanhood. On one hand, it wants woman to bear the burden of nature single-handed and on the other hand, this civilization calls her out to perform the multifarious duties of a man. Thus she has been squarely placed between two grindstones. Moreover this same propaganda has enticed women in such a way that they feet they must make themselves more and more attractive to the opposite sex and thus outrage their decency by wearing scanty dress or even nudity. They have been turned into play-things in male hands. Islam has proved to be a real benefactor to women because it has associated each woman to a single man and has absolved her from all other men. Islam sets a high value on those pursuits, which are assigned, to her by nature. Western civilization on the other hand has made her the slave of numerous men and has attached a false notion of disgrace to all tasks truly befitting a woman. Your information about the Islamic University of Medina is not correct. The curriculum, submitted by me and approved by a committee appointed by the King, provides for the teaching of Quran, Hadith, Fiqh, Kalam, and Islamic history combined with European philosophy, jurisprudence, history, economics, politics and comparative religions. One European language - either French, English or German-will be compulsory. The education visualized in this scheme can neither be labeled "secular" or "religious" in the narrowly accepted sense of these terms. We intend that this University will be different from modern colleges or old-fashioned madrassahs and shall occupy a unique place all its own. We wish to produce such Muslim scholars well versed in Islamic teachings combined with modern knowledge so they will be competent to apply Islamic principles to the problems of contemporary life. Like all other Muslim lands, Saudi Arabia is now the scene of a head-on clash between two conflicting civilizations. The discovery of oil has brought limitless and undreamed wealth and the flood-gates to Western civilization have thus been thrown open. Modern Riyadh is rising like a true replica of Western capitals in the Arabian Desert. Similar is the case of Dhahran and Jeddah. Even Mecca and Medina are also in the process of being "modernized". In such a critical state, if we fail to produce first-rate scholars who can equip Arabia with the requisite intellectual and practical leadership, this sanctuary of Islam, I am afraid, will be swept away by the same surge of materialistic culture which has already wrought havoc in Turkey and now Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Indonesia and Pakistan are experiencing its deadly grip. I think it is our foremost duty to rescue the center of Islam from this rising peril. President Habib Bourguiba of Tunisia is faithfully following in the footsteps of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk of Turkey. All these so-called modern leaders of Muslims have played the most treacherous game in their respective countries. When they launch a struggle for political freedom from Western imperialism, they appeal to Muslims in the name of Islam but as soon as these leaders manage to capture power, they make religion their scapegoat for national "backwardness" and mercilessly stamp out every manifestation of Islamic thought and culture. All such persons are the products of imperialism. They have no knowledge or appreciation of Islam. They have been educated and brought up in England, France or other European countries. Many of them have European wives (Bourguiba also has a French wife). In their daily life and behavior, they are exact prototypes of Western people. Muslims had to accept their leadership in order to win their political liberty and now these Europeanized leaders are trying to remove the last vestige of Islamic civilization from their realms in order to make their political power strong and secure. Dr. Wilfred Cantwell Smith and I met face to face in 1958 when he presented to me a complementary copy of the book you mentioned in your last letter. These people are unsuccessfully trying to manufacture a new Islam for us and are vainly hoping that we will abandon the true Islam of the Quran and Sunnah and accept the version fashioned and tailored by themselves, unaware of the fact that all their efforts are doomed to fairer. A Muslim must remain a Muslim in the genuine sense or that word and God forbid, if he breaks away from the pure and pristine Islam, he will choose a mid-way course between the two and the chances of survival for a Luke-warm Islam are very dim indeed. I am wonder-struck at the folly of the Western powers. On the one band, they want the Muslims to fight against communism because it is a godless creed while on the other band, they regard true Islam as a menace and so try to de-Islamize Muslims and encourage every kind of heresy and apostasy. What a pity these people do not understand what the inevitable results of their blunder must be. They always encourage those elements that are infusing un-Islamic values into the Muslim countries, and never tire of condemning those persons who are struggling to revive the true spirit of Islam-they malign as "reactionaries" and "fanatics". Not content even with such diatribes, they make the modernist leaders instrumental in persecuting those Muslims who are working for an Islamic awakening. God only knows what will ultimately happen due to such unwise and misguided attitudes on the part of our Western critics. Dr. Wilfred Cantwell Smith and his counterparts among ourselves should rest assured that there is not even the remotest possibility that the majority of Muslims will accept this new version of "Islam" as genuine and would believe in it. Thank God, the original sources of Islam -the Quran and Sunnah- are still to be found intact and unalloyed. So long as even a single Muslim is left in the world having direct access to these basic sources, no counterfeit and unauthorized editions of Islam can ever gain currency among Muslims. My journey to Africa will probably be postponed to July because my failing health does not permit me to travel. Furthermore, my African friends think that my tour would be more profitable if I go there when the election excitement has calmed down in Kenya and political tranquility prevails there once more. With salaams and best wishes, Sincerely, ABUL ALA New York, April 12,1961 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maulana Maudoodi, I was shocked to learn that you could not make the trip to Africa because of bad health and that you have been ill for almost two months. I only hope that the doctors will find an effective treatment to relieve the pain. Suffering such pain, it must have required much effort on your part to type such a detailed letter to me and replying to all the questions I asked you to my satisfaction. These days it seems that one is constantly bombarded by radio, television and the press about the necessity for "raising the standard of' living" and "economic development" in the so-called "under- developed" countries. In order to do this, foreign aid on a massive scale from the United States or the Soviet Union is deemed essential. The so-called "economic development" of the so-called "under- -developed" countries has become an obsession. Economic development of "underdeveloped" countries is interpreted to mean urbanization, industrialization and mechanized agriculture. Practically speaking, the slogan of "economic development" is simply an instrument for spreading Westernization and the wholesale destruction of the indigenous cultures of Asia and Africa. The need for eliminating illiteracy and spreading education is always emphasized but always now-a-days in this context, education means modern secular education along purely Western lines stressing technology. Islamic means for attaining social justice and a more equitable distribution of wealth such as Zakat, the inheritance laws, the Waqf foundations and the prohibition of interest on capital are entirely ignored. The Only movement in recent times I know of which has attempted to achieve social justice according to Islamic methods is the banned Ikhwan al Muslimun founded in 1928 by Shaikh Hassan al Banna. During my adolescence I used to be very much excited by the ideals of such United Nations organs as UNESCO (the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) because I have always been internationally-minced and interested in furthering cultural exchange and better understanding between the different peoples of the world. But lately, I have begun to take a dim view even of UNESCO. I have read all its publications ever since its inception when I was a child of twelve back in 1946 and although they are supposed to be completely objective and impartial, they are just as prejudiced against the Islamic way of life as any other Western periodicals. In fact, I have come to look upon the United Nations agencies as only one more means for spreading Westernize and modern materialism. The first Director of UNESCO was none else than Sir Julian Huxley, the grandson of the celebrated English biologist, Sir Thomas Huxley, and is the author of a number of books notorious for their atheism and materialism. The last chapter of my novel, Ahmad Khalil: The Biography of a Palestinian Arab Refugee was published as a short story both in the March 1961 issue of The Islamic Review in Working and The Ramadan Annual of the Muslim Digest from Durban. Since then I have received a number of letters from Muslims objecting to my sympathetic portrayal of the "traditionalist", "medieval" Arab life like wearing native dress, eating with fingers from a common dish, sleeping on a rug or mat on the floor, etc. They insist I have done great harm to the Arab cause by portraying my characters living in such "backwardness." What you do think? I think that the modern-educated ruling elite in Asia and Africa are so obsessed with the mania to "develop" their respective countries not because they really care about the personal welfare of the poor but rather because they are ashamed of them! They shudder with the most acute inferiority complex every time their countries are labeled as "backward." I think the mania for industrialization stems not from any real positive benefit the country would gain but because big factories and huge dams and hydroelectric plants would increase their prestige and respect on the part of the "advanced" countries. Nations are no different from individuals who strain every nerve to accumulate as much wealth as they can just so they can show if off and boast about it. The Holy Quran sums up this attitude beautifully when it says: "Know that the life of this world is only play and idle amusement, pomp and mutual boasting and multiplying in rivalry among yourselves riches and children." This Quranic verse is even truer today than it was in the Prophet's time. Now I can understand why belief in the Hereafter is such an essential part of Islam and why it is emphasized in almost every verse of the Quran. As soon as one begins to have faith in the Hereafter, the values of this world considers supreme immediately lose their importance. Belief in the Hereafter at once gives the believer a true perspective on life so that he can distinguish between what is really important and what is not. He or she then begins to long for the good, which lasts eternally and not for mere material objects doomed to perish soon without a trace behind. Belief in God's judgment in the Hereafter is the only effective sanction behind the moral law. Minus Hereafter, religion is meaningless. If the Hereafter is such a moral necessity, it cannot be the product of mere wishful thinking, as the skeptics tell us, but must be an objective reality! I have also told you bow terribly isolated I feel from others who share our thinking. Here in New York, there is a small community of Muslims whom I meet at the mosque every week when I go there for Arabic lessons. On Fridays, I go to Columbia University to meet with a group of Muslim students from various countries (including Pakistan) where we gather for Jumaa prayers and then a meal with discussion but as much as my parents, their views clash with mine on almost everything. They firmly believe that Islam must be reconciled with modern Western civilization and its ideals and practices modified accordingly. Some even criticizes fundamental Islamic doctrines. Many doubt the authenticity of Hadith. Although I make every effort to be polite and tactful, I cannot convince them and they cannot convince me. I always leave with a feeling of frustration. My Arabic teacher at the mosque, who is a native of Cairo, told me that he regards the fact of his being an Egyptian as important as his being a Muslim. He assured me that, far from being an artificial import from the West, nationalism is inborn in the hearts of all men everywhere. Now I want to ask you what can be done about this? Thus far since November 1959, I have written a number of articles defending this viewpoint and had them published in various English- language Muslim magazines, but this is not enough. Besides writing, I would be very grateful if you could tell me what practical work along these lines you have done and are doing now. With every prayer for the improvement of your health, I send my salaams to you and your family. Sincerely, MARGARET MARCUS Lahore, May 19, 1961 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Miss Marcus, Assalaam alaikum wa rahmatullah I received your letter of April 12th and again I must apologize for delaying my reply, the reason being, as you already know, my failing health and over-work. After a prolonged illness, I was finally given deep X-ray treatment and thank God I have almost recovered. Only weakness remains. I read with interest the cutting from The Islamic Review of the short story from your novel that you enclosed with your letter. You have painted the most accurate picture of the impact of Western materialism upon the Arab Muslims. I have seen with my own eyes similar influences on Arabian life during my last visit there and I discussed these matters with Islam-loving thinkers and reformers. The comments you have received on your story do not surprise me in the least. Even sincere Muslims fear that Westerners and modern Muslims will react with repugnance when such a "retrograde" picture of Islam is presented to them. Your first reaction to such adverse opinions will naturally be mingled with dismay but you should try to understand all of this. If you persevere patiently in propagating the truth of Islam, you are sure to succeed in your efforts eventually and win converts on your way. I advise you not to try to convince everybody, especially those who do not care to listen or whose views are diametrically opposed to yours, even though they may be your own dear parents. Allah tells us: "Admonish if admonition is profitable." You should always try to seek out such souls as are able to rise above purely materialistic conceptions and appreciate higher spiritual and moral values. Unless you first succeed in reaching such persons, you will feel alone and isolated in the wilderness of materialism and constant quarrels or arguments with hostile or apathetic people will tend to create pessimism in your mind. Of course, it is natural that the so-called "under-developed" countries should want to put an end to their backwardness as quickly as possible and catch up with the Western countries in the race for material progress. But the tragedy is that aid from rich countries is bringing a deluge of Western culture in its wake which is a deadly menace to our religion, our morality, our civilization and culture-in short, everything near and dear to us which makes our lives worth living. Furthermore, the leadership in Muslim countries is in the hands of those persons whose minds are completely vanquished and who venture to re-interpret the laws of the Shariah despite their meager knowledge. Such a situation is doubly dangerous. It not only poses a threat to Islamic patterns of thought and behavior but also there is every possibility of Muslim countries falling into the lap of Communism. When the Muslim peoples witness their sacred and sublime values of life being trampled under-foot and when nothing but grossly materialist ideas are left for which they could life and die, then surely the Muslim world will be fertile soil for Communist propaganda, infiltration and conspiracies. I think that American foreign policy will suffer irreparable reverses in Muslim countries. It may meet the same fate here, it has encountered in China and all its donations in cash and kind may fall into the hands of the enemy. The deep-rooted prejudice against Islam and their hatred 'for Muslims among Americans and Europeans have blinded them even to their own loss! The question you asked me at the end of your last letter is an important question indeed! This is indeed precisely the question, which I have been trying to solve for the last thirty-five years. I began my efforts towards understanding Islam and working for its revival when I was a youth of twenty-three and ever since then, I have dedicated my whole life for this task. I never had any faith in mere defensive tactics or a rear-guard action. I have launched a three-proponed offensive. On the one hand, I have ruthlessly attacked - the ideological foundations of Western culture. On the other hand, I have expounded as fully as I know how, the ideological bases of Islam. I have explained at great length what an Islamic way of life and how in every respect it is superior to Western ways mean. Thirdly, I have offered practical Islamic solutions of important problems which previously even observant Muslims could see no alternative but to follow the West. As a result of this work, there are millions of Muslims in Pakistan and India from every walk of life who share with me the zeal and yearning for an Islamic order. About twenty-five of my Urdu books have been translated into Arabic and a large proportion of the Muslim public in the Arabic-speaking countries appreciate and sympathize with my ideas. I bow my head before Allah and praise Him for all this. Unfortunately, as yet very few of my works have been translated into English. If you could learn Urdu, I think that my books would help you in your fight for Islam in America. I wonder if you know that since 1941 an organization-Jama'at-e- Islami - has been working in the Indo-Pak sub-continent. Jama’at-e-Islami strive to propagate and implement the ideology which I have presented in my writings. After Partition in 1947, this organization was also split into two separate parties-Jama'at-e-Islami Pakistan and Jama'at-e-Islami Hind. President Ayub Khan has banned the former along with all other political parties since the promulgation of Martial Law in 1958; the latter is still working in India under its own independent leadership. I have told you this story to impress upon your mind the fact that in order to gain some positive results; it is necessary to struggle patiently for many long years. Moreover, to achieve success in a cause, it is essential to equip oneself adequately in the intellectual as well as the moral sphere. It is a hard, unremitting struggle all the way. You have just begun. I fully realize how difficult and painful it is for a young, unmarried female convert to work for Islam in a country like America, but when you have embraced Islam and have clearly grasped the duties it entails, you should seek the help of Almighty Allah and try to assume all the responsibilities He has chosen to give you. The more serious and sincere you are in your efforts, the greater the help you will receive from your Lord which will come from sources and ways you and could not possibly imagine beforehand. I must confess that with my indifferent health, I am compelled to perform multifarious duties. Daily I have much to read and write and every day many people write me letters and come to see me, so if I am late in replying to you, do not mind and continue to keep me informed about your welfare and activities. I am keenly interested in your struggles and trials for Islam. I also want to publish in my Urdu monthly, Tarjuman ul-Quran, extracts of your essays and letters, omitting, of course, intimate personal details. I hope you have no objection to that. May I ask you whether you have assumed an Islamic name? With salaams and best wishes. Sincerely yours, ABUL ALA New York, May 29, 1961 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maulana Maudoodi, Assalaam alaikum. I was very happy to receive your letter of May 20th and feel relieved to know that you are recovering from your illness. I hope you will feel well soon again. You have my full permission to print in your Tarjuman ul Quran any part of my letters or articles you may wish. Of all the letters I have received commenting on my short story, yours was the only one that showed an appreciative understanding of what I was trying to say. As I already told you, this short story is the concluding chapter of my novel, Ahmad Khalil: The Biography of a Palestinian Arab Refugee which I began to write back in August 1949 at the age of fifteen. The first part deals with his early childhood in a small village in southern Palestine, his home, surroundings and the various members of his family, ending with their tragic expulsion from their homes during the 1948 Palestine war and the total destruction of the village (and with it, an entire way of life) by the superior military might of the Zionists. The second half begins when Ahmad Khalil, now eighteen years old, has been married for two years, decides to leave the refugee camp and without Government permission, takes the surviving remnants of his family to make the pilgrimage to Mecca “illegally” and once there, he decides to make Medina his permanent home until it would be possible for him to return to Palestine. The remainder of the novel concentrates on his cousin, Rashid who was throughout his life his inseparable friend and companion, his mentally-ill younger brother, Khalifa, the growing cruelty and unbelief of his only surviving son, Ismail, and his adopted son, Abdar-Raziq, a blind theology student of al-Azhar who became his sole comfort. The first part of the story emphasizes the evils of Western materialism in the guise of Zionist imperialistic aims and the concluding chapters, the harmful effects of the oil industry in Saudi Arabia as it affects the daily life and the ultimate fate of this Arab Muslim family. My novel expresses the same ideas as your own books, only in story-form. For obvious reasons, (aside from its literary merit or lack of it) Ahmad Khalil would be highly unpopular here and I would not stand a chance with American publishers. Now I am full of plans to compile another book, which will be entitled, Islam Attacked from without and Within: An Anthology of Anti-Islamic Propaganda. My aim here will not only show in detail how Islam in all its aspects has been attacked by Western "orientalists" and westernized Muslims from within; I want above all else, to expose the mentality of our adversaries. It does us no good merely to condemn our enemies. In order to fight our enemies effectively I think it is essential for us to understand them and to know how their minds work. Psychology is one at the most fascinating subjects and I want to apply its principles here so we can know specifically what motivates these people to do as they do. Among the authors I intend to quote at length are Wilfred Cantwell Smith, Director of the Islamic Institute at McGill University in Canada, H. G. Wells, famous English historian, Arnold Toynbee, William Douglas, judge now serving on the American Supreme Court, Julian Huxley, biologist and former Director of UNESCO from 1946-1948, Albert Schweitzer, Mrs. Eleanor Roosevelt and John S. Bandeau, former professor at the American college of Cairo and now serving as American Ambassador to the United Arab Republic. Among the Westernized Muslims I will include Ziya Gokalp, Dr. Taha Hussein, and Asaf A. Fyzee, vice-chancellor of Kashmir University. Each quote will be preceded by a few introductory paragraphs and followed by a detailed commentary. At the beginning of the anthology I want to write a long preface and at the conclusion a lucid and concise epilogue. I have just read a most illuminating book by the late Muhammad Ali, formerly the head of the Lahore Ahmadiyya movement entitled The Anti Christ Gog and Magog which explains why the prophecies of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) could only mean the domination of Western materialism over the world. As regards my apprehension that so-called "technical assistance" for the "economic development" of the "under-developed" countries only means the spread of Western materialism, our Holy Prophet knew this perfectly when he is reported to have said: He (the Dajjal) will give them (the needy Muslims) to eat but he will also make of them unbelievers. Unfortunately, the whole book was ruined at the end when the author tries to convince his readers that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian was the promised Imam-i-Mehdi. For the last several months I have been trying to make contact with Sayyid Qutb who, as you know better than anybody else, has been imprisoned under Nasser ever since al Ikhwan at Muslimun was banned in 1954. Although he has not been able to write to me himself, just yesterday, I received a beautiful letter from his sister, Amina Qutb, who told me that my letters had been delivered to her brother in his prison cell and that she wanted to write to me on his behalf. Sayyid Qutb, a scholar and the author of a number of books, is a great admirer of you and specially recommended your books to me. How tragic it is that in the so-called "Muslim" countries, Islam is much more severely persecuted than in non-Muslim lands! I am enclosing a copy of the weekly bulletin of the local Unitarian Church, which my parents and elder sisters are thinking of becoming members. Until now, I was always under the impression that the Unitarian Church was a Christian sect, which rejected the Trinity and the Divinity of Christ, revering Jesus as a Prophet and emphasizing the unity of God. However, the church my parents and sister attend proclaims an ideology no different from the agnostic humanism of the Ethical Culture movement. Five days ago on the Eid al Adha after the prayers, in the presence of two of my Muslim friends for witnesses, I formally pronounced the Shahadah, which makes me a full-fledged Muslim. Then I received at The Islamic Mission of America in Brooklyn from Shaikh Daud Ahmad Faisal my Islamic Certificate of Adoption. My Muslim name is Maryam Jamilah with which I will henceforth sign all my correspondence and writings. However, since my parents do not want to call me by my Arabic name and the other members of my family feel the same way, I shall not insist on it but with you and all my brothers and sisters in faith, I shall use only any new name of which I am very proud. Hoping that your health will continue to improve. Yours in Islam, MARYAM JAMEELAH Lahore, June 20, 1961 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maryam Jameelah, Assalaam alaikum wa rahmatullah. I received your letter dated May 29th and am heartily pleased to know that you have become an integral part of the great fraternity of Islam by proclaiming Shahadah and have assumed an Islamic name. All this was a natural consequence of your ideas and convictions. I solemnly pray to Allah that He may accept your sincerity, give you strength to live and work for Islam and may enable you to brave your hostile surroundings steadfastly. I am grateful to you for your anxiety about my health. Thank God my health has now returned to normal. Inshaallah I intend to leave for Africa in July. Thank you for your permission to publish your essays and portions of your letters. I think they will serve as an eye-opener to, the Muslim youth here, which will provide them with a striking contrast that while they are trying to westernize themselves despite their birth in a Muslim society, here is a young woman born in a "reformed" Jewish home in modern America who has been struggling for the Truth and who is striving to practice it when she has found it out at last. I hope your example will teach them a lesson. Please send me the manuscript of your novel Ahmad Khalil. I will try to find the time to read it and then show it to my publishers, Messrs. Islamic Publications Ltd. here in Lahore. I will be pleased if they agree to print it. Your anthology of anti-Islamic propaganda could be very useful and instructive. There are several facts, which you should not fail to mention. The first is that the Communists in the East and the democracies in the West join hands in their common enmity against Islam. Secondly, whenever there is a departure or a deviation of Muslims away from Islam, it is acclaimed loudly in Western circles which makes the modernist Muslims still bolder and more audacious in their mischief-making. According to these critics, departure from Islam is synonymous with "enlightenment" and “progress" and in their over-anxiety to win the applause of their admirers, modernist Muslims grow more and more zealous in their "reforms". These only produce bitter wives of resentment among the majority of their own Muslim countrymen. The rulers are waging open warfare against the ruled and as a result or this continuous internal conflict; the Muslim states are devoid of vitality. Another consequence of such an unwise attitude is that the so-called "free-world block" is rendering its own defense line against Communism weak and vulnerable. Thus far, Communism has mostly persecuted the Muslims only in the countries it has over- run but the way the non-Communist bloc is playing havoc among independent Muslim ranks, its very goal of common defense is being defeated thereby. True Muslims fail to see any difference between these two power blocs and they are compelled to believe that both are in essence the same. In the presence of such disgust and deep revulsion of the overwhelming majority of the Muslim peoples, the political alliances of the rulers are artificial and have lost all their meaning. Now I turn to your question about the Dajjal. In Arabic, the word Dajjal literally means fraud and cheating. From this point of view, every fraudulent person, group or nation is Dajjal. However, according to the traditions of our Holy Prophet, al-Dajjal (The Deceiver) must be a single person. During the leadership of al-Dajjal as foretold by our Holy Prophet, true Muslims will suffer severe persecution. When I consider all the details about al-Dajjal or the Anti-Christ in the Hadith, I am led to believe that he has not come as yet but I think the time has arrived when this prophecy will soon be fulfilled. I think that al-Dajjal will make his appearance in the land of "Israel". I am happy to learn about your contact with Sayyid Qutb and his relations. Although we have had so far no opportunity to meet each other face to face, yet each one of us knows the other fully. He sent his books to me from prison and I met his brother, Muhammad Qutb when I visited Cairo in 1960. Ordeals of fire and sword through which the Ikhwan and in fact, all genuine Muslims everywhere must endure, should not surprise you. When a Muslim is nursed and raised under the influence of Kufr and he holds aloft the banner of Kufr in both hands, he goes to such extremes in persecuting his co-religionists as even non-Muslims would not dare to do, but sooner or later the time is sure to come when everybody must reap what he has been sowing. Praying for your steady progress on the path of Islam. Sincerely yours, ABUL ALA New York, July 11, 1961 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maulana Maudoodi, Assalaam alaikum. Thank you for your letter of June 20th and I am especially glad to hear that your health has returned to normal so that you will be able to go on your African tour. I am sending you this letter by surface post because I do not expect your reply before you return to Lahore in September. From what I have gathered from my reading, Africa appears to be the brightest spot on the map so far as the prospects for Islam are concerned. Particularly in Nigeria, under the capable leadership of Ahmadu Bello and Abu Bakr Tawafa Belawa. Islam is spreading by such leaps and bounds that for every pagan, who turns to Christianity, ten embrace Islam. Although the Catholic and Protestant missionaries have vast wealth and support behind them from the Western powers and have monopolized education, hospitals and philanthropic works for almost a century, they can win only a handful of converts while within the space of a few weeks or months whole villages go over to Islam. Recently The New York Times published an article in which the correspondent interviewed several Roman Catholic missionaries in a Nigerian town who informed him that most of the Africans they had baptized were now regularly attending the local mosque and observing the fast of Ramadan. I think one of the most important reasons for this is the fact that racial discrimination is accepted by the Christians and all their churches are rigidly segregated, whereas in the mosque, the African knows he will be welcomed and made to feel at home. If Islamic missionary work could be effectively organized in Arneric4, it would find the most fertile field among its twenty million black people, particularly the poor, the unemployed, the despised and the outcasts who crowd the great ghettos in New York and Chicago. I have included in my anthology of anti-Islamic propaganda an editorial in praise of President Habib Bourguiba's campaign against Ramadan that appeared in the Islamic Review which I think is disgraceful and inexcusable. Most of the contributors to my anthology are either connected with the American University of Beirut or the American College in Cairo. Both these institutions are Protestant missionary enterprises and although they actually succeed in winning very few converts to Christianity, they have achieved great success in making the Muslim students feel hostile towards Islam and winning them over to the Western way of life. The other day I met a Muslim student from Saudi Arabia now doing graduate work in the field of' education at Columbia University who received his B. A. degree from the American University of Beirut and told me that all Muslim students are required to attend Christian services at the chapel. Those who refuse to go must choose the alternative of a compulsory course in "Christian morals." After I learned how to use the typewriter at business school, I thought I would have no trouble finding employment as a secretary. In my search for employment, I went first to The Arab Information Center where I thought that my intense interest in the Arabic-speaking countries and Islam could be of some value but as soon as they found out that I was a Jewish convert to Islam and had no sympathy with President Nasser or his brand of "Arabism", they gave me such a cold reception, I never went back. Next, I visited the New York headquarters of The American Friends of the Middle East, where the two pretty young American girls at the front desk frankly told me that they considered all orthodox religions as obsolete and until the Arabs put Islam behind them and cast it off like a worn-out garment, they could never achieve economic development or a higher standard of living. Soon I discovered that the organizations in New York dealing with the Near East are either controlled by the Zionists, Christian missionaries or are purely commercial. The other day I passed the New York Tunisian Trade Center. Attracted by the exhibition of magnificent Hand-woven rugs and hammered copper trays in the window, I decided to go inside and have a look around. I never received such a shock in my life when I saw nothing but long shelves front floor to ceiling crowded with bottles of wine, whisky, rum and beer. I asked the lady in charge at the front desk if these were the products of independent Tunisia. She told me that this mass-production of alcoholic beverages both for domestic use and for export was proof of the economic "progress" President Habib Bourguiba had brought to Tunisia. She said that Islam was only a relic of the Middle Ages and the sooner dispensed with, the better. Noticing the woman's heavy French accent, I asked her if she were French citizen and she replied vigorously in the affirmative. She told me that the Tunisian Government employed her because President Bourguiba wished to promote the friendliest relations with France. This afternoon I intend to go to New York University, where I was once a student, to have a talk with a Jewish boy there who two weeks ago pronounced the Shahadah at the mosque. When his mother discovered that he had embraced Islam, she took him at once to the synagogue where the Rabbi forced him to re-convert back to Judaism. He had no choice because his mother (his father is dead) threatened to withhold all financial support from him if he continued in Islam. Since he is a medical student, he will not be able to support himself for some years to come. I can only give thanks to Allah that my parents are not so narrow-minded and intolerant as this mother. Eagerly awaiting your reply in September and all the interesting details of your African journey. Yours in Islam, MARYAM JAMEELAH Lahore, September 29, 1961 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maryam Jameelah, Assalaam alaikum wa rahmatullah. Your letter dated July 11th reached me just a few days ago which shows how slow surface post travels from your country to mine. The manuscript of your novel, Ahmad Khalil, arrived more than a month ago and is now with Islamic Publications Ltd. As soon as they return it to me, I will try to find the time to read your story and then give you my comments. You will be surprised to know that because the Government all of a sudden decided to expunge the names of every African and Arab country from my passport, I was forced to cancel my trip to Africa. Since then I have received numerous letters from these countries, as well as Pakistani protesting against such arbitrary restrictions on my movements abroad. The only people who are happy about this are the Christian missionaries and Qadianis who regard Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian (India) as a new prophet and consider every man or woman who does not believe in him as kaffr. Without any proper organization or financial support, Islam has been steadily gaining ground in Africa despite the most intense efforts and huge expenditures on the part of Christian missions. This fact speaks volumes for the contrast between the intrinsic merits of the respective faiths. Christianity is so weak that despite so many Christian schools, hospitals, organized missionary work and the support of the colonial governments, Africans seldom embrace it warmly and even those who do, are soon disillusioned and begin to renounce it. On the other hand, although Islam is neither being presented to them in its full beauty nor are most of the Muslims worthy examples of Islamic behavior and we have very few trained missionaries, the only Islam these Africans know is the influence of simple-minded, mostly uneducated Muslims through personal contact only. But even that much is sufficient to attract the Africans, Thus I yearned to organize a planned program for the dissemination of Islam there, but alas, my hands have been tied. Nevertheless I can never forget this cause which inshallah I will try to serve as best I can even though placed at such a distance as I am. You would not be surprised by Working Islamic Review’s support of Habib Bourguiba if you knew the school of thought to which this magazine belongs. They are our own countrymen and we know them only too well. They belong to the Lahore group of the followers of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani who had the audacity to lay a false claim to the prophethood. The main body of his followers at regular print openly proclaims the Mirza as a Prophet and those who reject his claim as "Kaffrs" or unbelievers. The son of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (Bashir-ud-din Mahmud) leads this group. The splinter sect who controls The Islamic Review at the Woking Mosque in England hesitates to declare outright that the Mirza was a prophet but only "Nabi" in a metaphorical sense but they hail him as the Promised Messiah, Mujaddid and Mehdi. Both these groups and Qadianis were great favorites with the British government during their rule over the undivided Indo-Pak sub- continent. They neither enjoyed nor only tacit support but positive protection and encouragement from British imperialism. Inside the country they were favored with responsible posts and outside the country, the most trusted loyal and obedient servants of His Majesty's empire. Their "Islamic" propaganda was tolerated only because it was so harmless and innocuous and their missions served as an effective disguise for their numerous and nameless services to Imperialism. Maulana Muhammad Ali, who translated the Holy Quran into English, was the leader of the Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement which established the "Woking Mission and Literary Trust" in England and publishes The Islamic Review. These people spare no effort to show themselves off as enlightened advanced and progressive liberals according to Western standards. That is why they enthusiastically acclaim every step adopted in Pakistan or other Muslim lands to "reform" Islam. Recently our family laws have been "reformed" to make them more acceptable to Western criteria, which those who control The Islamic Review loudly applaud. Your assessment of the Christian universities in Beirut and Cairo is quite correct. You will be interested to know that in Pakistan the Christian schools and colleges have been producing similar results for the last century and a half. Our social elite, economically privileged and top Government servants entrust their children when only four or five years old to these institutions. They learn to speak English instead of Urdu and indeed most of them cannot even converse or write in the national languages. They are completely alienated from their faith and cultural traditions. They celebrate Christmas and ignore the Eid festivals. They are ignorant even of the rudiments of Islam. When they reach adulthood, they become our leaders, rulers and builders of our destinies. The impact of our national educational system, which is our heritage of British domination, is no less devastating. Although the Government schools do not convert Muslims to Christianity, the practical result of its secular materialistic atmosphere produces ignorance; apathy and indifference, The majority of our educated youth remains Muslims not because of this education but inspite of it. Since you are a newcomer into the fold of Islam, I want you to understand the real reasons why Muslims are becoming modernized and de-Islamized and why their tongues and pens are serving the cause of Kufr. " I feel deeply worried over the problems you are facing. I fully realize the ordeals, which a person must endure when he or she embraces Islam in a land of Kufr and a woman faces a thousand-fold, more trials than a man. Through bitter personal experience, you have come to know how tolerant and broadminded these moderns Westerners are!' You have also encountered the type of people who are representing Muslim countries in foreign lands. Although extremely difficult times are ahead of you, I think these experiences will stand you in good stead in this world and surely will earn you a lasting reward in the Hereafter. I believe that if you had accepted my invitation to come to Lahore, you could have avoided these troubles and I could have helped you in every possible way but even in America if you think I crender any practical service to you, please tell me frankly and I will not hesitate to do whatever I can. May Allah in His abounding mercy help you and grant you patience and perseverance. With all my salaams, Your brother in Islam, ABUL ALA New York, October 9, 1961 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maulana Maudoodi, Assalaam alaikum. Thank you for your letter of September 29th. Every Friday noon I attend the Muslim Students Association at Columbia University for Jumaa Salat. Each week a different student takes his turn delivering his own Khutbah (sermon) and leading the prayer as Imam. As I am female and so could not deliver the Khutbah in person, when my turn came, a kind student from the United Arab Republic offered to deliver my Khutbah on my behalf. Entitled "Can Islam Be Reconciled with the Spirit of the Twentieth century?" I analyzed the seven most important proposals for "modernizing" Islam as repeatedly advocated by the "Progressives." These were: (1) the permanent abolition of the Khalifate: (2) the abolition of the Shariah and its replacement with modern western secular legal systems; (3) the substitution of the concept of universal Muslim brotherhood (Ummah) with territorial or racial nationalism; (4) official translations of Quran without Arabic text and the replacement of the Arabic script with the Roman alphabet; (5) the view that raising the material standard of living to Western levels through industrialization should be the supreme goal of the Government to which all other considerations must be sacrificed or subordinated; (6) the so-called “ emancipation" of women; (7) the adoption of Western clothing and living habits. In my Khutbah I showed how each of these proposals, if carried to their logical conclusions, would bring about the complete destruction of Islamic civilization. However, the students violently disagreed. They told me that as soon as they completed their studies in America and returned home, they would spare no efforts to impose all these reforms One student from Afghanistan assured me that what his country needed more than anything also was another Ataturk! Most Muslim students whom I have met share the same view and I must confess it sometimes makes me feel quite despondent. Enclosed is the manuscript of my Khutbah*. Please let me know what you think of it. Yours in Islam, MARYAM JAMEELAH Lahore, October 24, 1961 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My dear sister-in-Islam, Assalaam alaikum, Thank you for your letter of October 9th and the manuscript of your Khutbah. Your description of the Muslim students you have met at Colombia University is exactly according to my expectations. I have made a deep study of the system of education through which the rising generation is passing here and in the Arab world. The inevitable consequences of this system result in the student's deep prejudice against Islam and its historical and cultural heritage. At the first opportunity they are eager to mutilate its shape and distort its spirit. They are mentally degraded and morally debased. When they return home, they capture the most conspicuous and powerful positions in our national life, which is the major cause of the unrelenting warfare between the rulers and the ruled. But I assure you, there is a bright side, too, and from these very same schools, colleges and universities, there are students with a deep yearning for the establishment of an Islamic order. The same is the case in the Arab world, Turkey, Indonesia and all other Muslim countries. These students, particularly those belonging the Jamiat ul Tulaba, keep in close contact with me and I have great hopes for them. Unfortunately, these students have slim opportunity to go to study in America or Europe because the patronage, which makes such visits possible, is reserved for the spoilt sons of the soil. That is why you have not met such youth in New York. I wanted to expedite the decision about the printing of your novel, Ahmad Khalil, in your favor but alas, only a few days ago, Mian Tufail Muhammad, the Managing Director of Islamic Publications was arrested and is now being imprisoned under the Public Safety Act. This Act, the legacy of British rule, enables a person to be arbitrarily imprisoned without trial. The authorities simply seize him and put him behind bars as long as they please. Mian Tufail Muhammad has been a close associate of mine for the last twenty years. As a result of his detention for daring to publish a pamphlet criticizing the Family Law Ordinance, all business of Islamic Publications has been dislocated indefinitely. I have studied your Friday Khutbah carefully and assure you that what you have said are precisely the views I have been preaching continuously for more than thirty years. That is why the modernists fear me as a "danger." I am amazed how a girl born and brought up in America has been able to attain such an accurate insight into the problem. What you said in your Khutbah couldn’t but win my deepest admiration and I only pray to Allah that he may give you more and more wisdom and steadfastness to expound and promote the cause of Islam. With salaams and best wishes, Your brother-in-Islam, ABUL ALA New York, November 8,1961 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maulana Maudoodi, Assalaam alaikum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh. Thank you for your letter of October 24th. I am glad that you oppose the apologetic, polemical approach as much as I do. When I first started reading what Islamic literature was available in English back in 1953, my Muslim friends and acquaintances all urged me to read Sir Syed Ameer Ali's The Spirit of Islam. I did so and when I finished, I was convinced it was one of the worst books about Islam I had ever read. My Muslim friends were amazed by this negative reaction and could not understand why I did not like the book. Take, for example, the question of polygamy. Even Muslims like Dr. Hoballah, who directs the, Islamic Center in Washington, told me that Islam permits polygamy only under rare exceptional circumstances. Some modernists even go so far as to interpret the verse of the Quran which says that you cannot do equal justice to more than one wife however much you may wish to do so as an absolute prohibition of plural marriage. Typical of the apologetic viewpoint is the following quote from Muhammad Ali Lahore’s commentary on his English translation of Holy Qur'an (pp. 187-188): "Surah IV: 3 permits polygamy only under certain circumstances ... It would be thus clear that the permission to have more wives than one was given under the peculiar circumstances of the Muslim society then existing... It may be added here that polygamy in Islam is both in theory and in practice an exception and not a rule...” The strongest argument against such sophistries is that that none of the reputable commentators on the Holy Qur'an in all Muslim history ever expounded such an interpretation of this verse until the Muslim world fell under the domination of European imperialism. Nowhere in the Qur'an or Hadith literature do I find polygamy condemned as an absolute evil in itself nor does the question ever arise of the necessity to restrict it to exceptional circumstances. The exact words of the verse in question (IV : 129) are; "Ye will not be able to deal equally between your wives however much ye wish to do so. But turn not all together from (the other wife) leaving her as in suspense. If you do good and keep from evil, lo! Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.” In other words, because no two human beings are exactly alike, a husband cannot possibly regard several different wives with equal affection but this verse does not prohibit him from plural marriage behe cannot help but love one wife more than the others. No! The Quran only enjoins justice and kindness for all of them and exhorts the husband to deal with them with as fairly as possible. Marmaduke Pickthall's introductory notes to his English translation of the Holy Quran interpret much more faithfully the verse dealing with this subject. He writes: “In Islam sanctity has never been identified with celibacy. For Christendom the strictest religious ideal has been celibacy; monogamy is already a concession to human nature. For Muslims monogamy is the ideal and polygamy is the concession to human nature. Having set in his marriage to Khadijah a great example of monogamy marriage, the Prophet was also to set a great example of polygamy marriage by following which men of that temperament could live righteous lives. Islam did not institute polygamy. It limited an already existing institution by restricting the number of a man's legal wives to four and by giving to every woman a legal personality and legal rights which had to be respected and making every man legally responsible for his conduct towards every woman. Whether polygamy or monogamy should prevail in a particular country or historical period is a matter of social and economic convenience." I wonder if you read in the April-May 1961 issue of The voice of Islam published by the Jamiat-ul-Falah in Karachi the essay, "Punishments in Islam" by Muhammad Shibli which at once won my admiration for such a clear and straight-forward presentation of the logical reasons why Islam has prescribed such allegedly "barbaric" punishments as stoning to death for adultery, amputation of the hand for theft, public flogging for fornication and wine-drinking, etc. Ninety-nine out of a hundred contemporary Muslim writers would try to explain away the Quranic penal law as obsolete for the modern age. Typical of these people was the angry letter to the Editor in the August issue of the same magazine castigating Muhammad Shibli for not regarding the secular Western legal systems as superior to the Shariah. As President Habib Bourguiba Declared: "Up to now Islam has been understood according to the way it was interpreted by the Ulema, a static interpretation kept unchanged throughout all these decadent centuries. That old interpretation is outdated ... In other words, the modernists mean to tell us that all our Mujaddids throughout all the previous twelve hundred years were thoroughly mistaken about the true meaning or the Holy Quran and only now for the first time have these modernists attained the correct perspective! These are some of the reasons why I consider the apologetic approach the height of intellectual dishonesty, moral cowardiness, spiritual blasphemy and hypocrisy. When these "progressive" Muslim students tell me that their countries cannot afford to be religious until economic development and a higher standard of living is first achieved, I cannot help but recall the words of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) as recorded in the New Testament when he told his followers: "Seek ye first the kingdom of heaven and then all these (material) things shall be added unto you…”. But the "Progressives" would have it the other way around!. They assure us that after they attain material prosperity, they will have more time to concentrate on spiritual matters. But experience shows that this is never the case, because the person who adopts that attitude becomes so preoccupied with materialistic pursuits that the spiritual side of life is entirely forgotten. The incredible reasoning to which these people resort is illustrated when my Arabic teacher at the mosque in New York told me that Kemal Ataturk prohibited the Turks from performing Haj because the economic situation was so desperate and people were starving so that the Government could not permit any capital taken out of the country. "This was entirely justified," argued my teacher, "and in conformity to the spirit of Islam because Haj is obligatory only for those who can afford it." What he failed to mention was that Ataturk's decree banned only the pilgrimage to Mecca! All other travel abroad, especially to Western Europe and America, was not only permitted but also encouraged with official patronage. At the meetings of Tile Muslim Students Association at Columbia University, the favorite target is the traditional Islamic education such as that imparted at al-Azhar, Deoband or other lesser Madrassahs, which in their emphasis on memorization, are criticized for stifling all intellectual independence and creative and original thought. These students are blissfully unaware that the criticism with which they attack the traditional madrassah is a thousand times truer in the case of themselves! Among these western-educated students, I cannot find the least trace of intellectual independence or creative and original thought. They never do their own thinking but merely repeat in the most mechanical way what they are taught like parrots! That is why though American universities like Columbia may teem with students of Muslim origin, one seeks in vain among them for any true scholars. The literal meaning of "Islam" is submission to the will of Allah. It is not possible to become close to Allah without submitting one's self to observe His law and follow His guidance in practical daily life. Such a person will never doubt that wisdom (as did one student at Colombia University who told me it is quite permissible now for Muslims to eat pork because since breeders today know how to raise pigs hygienically, the danger of disease has been eliminated! The true Muslim will never discard any Quranic injunction as no longer relevant to present-day life. His supreme goal in life is to live the way Allah wants him to live and nothing will sadden him more than displeasing his Lord. He will not regard the law as a burden but as a joy. It is at this juncture where Orthodox Judaism and Islam meet on common ground. Every day in synagogue the pious Jew recites the following commandments of the Law of Moses: "Thou shalt love thy Lord, thy God with all thy heart, with all thy soul and with all thy might. And these words which I (God) command you (Moses) shall be upon thy heart. Thou shalt teach them diligently to thy children and thou shalt speak of them when thou art sitting in thy house, when thou guest on a journey, when thou lies down and when thou rise up. Thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thy hand and they shalt be for frontlets between thine eyes. Thou shalt inscribe them upon the doorposts of thy house and upon thy gates." (Deuteronomy VI: 4-9). On the other hand, the modernists, instead of submitting to Allah, expect Allah to submit to them! I am enclosing the editorial of the July 1961 issue of The Islamic Review in praise of the new Pakistani Family Laws Ordinance. Please comment. Yours in Islam, MARYAM JAMEELAH. Lahore, December 16, 1961 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maryam Jameelah. Assalaam alaikum wa rahmatullah. Thank you for your letter dated November 8th, as well as the enclosed editorial on the Family Laws Ordinance in the Islamic Review. Under separate cover I also received the manuscript of your essay, "The Significance of the Taqbir*. I have carefully read this article and agree to each and every word of it. The Holy Prophet has categorically prohibited Muslims from drawing pictures or sculpturing statues of animals or human beings. History bears witness to the fact that picture making is the first step towards "shirk" and idolatry. Idolatry does not necessarily mean to perform ritualistic worship before an object. When pictures of leaders and famous personalities are prominently hung and distributed everywhere, it surely results in mental slavery and godly reverence for those persons and a firm imprint "greatness" (instead of Allah's greatness) upon their minds and souls. This is certainly a form of idol-worship. When Russia captured Poland, thousands of Stali's pictures were imported into every town and village of the land. Nazi soldiers used to wear Hitler's photo on their bosoms and if they were injured and breathed their last in hospitals, they were found kissing these portraits and placing them on their eyes. Pictures on coins and postage stamps of national leaders are symbols of their worldly sovereignty and when their pictures are shown on the cinema screen, the audience is required to stand up at once. If all this is not Shirk then what else is it? The Nazis, the Fascists, the Communists, the Kamalists and the Nasserites have demonstrated the uses, or more appropriately, the abuses of pictures and demonstrated their disastrous consequences so clearly that I do not think that there should exist the least doubt in any sane mind why Islam bans pictures and statues. How can anybody who knows the difference between Tawheed and shirk ever tolerate picture making when its results are so glaringly manifest today? After all, why did Khrushchev in his denunciation of Stalin at once order the removal of pictures and statues of Stalin from all public places? Does it not mean that Khrushchev was aware of how the divinity of this false god was engraved on the minds of Russians from these very pictures? From earliest times, the picture has served as the greatest vehicle for spreading immorality and lewdness in the world. Wine, music, dancing, indecent literature, picture and statue have always been are now more than ever before, the most potent instigators of adultery and fornication. If the modernists in Muslim lands insist upon indulgence in such practices, despite the clearest prohibitions of the Holy Prophet, in order to propitiate the whims of the "times" and be praised as "up-to-date", they cannot do so without violating the values and principles of Islam. How any such persons can persuade themselves and others that inspite of this basic change, they are as good Muslims as ever is beyond my comprehension. I completely agree with all you have written about apologetics. There are two underlying causes for this sort of reasoning. Either it results from faulty understanding or ignorance of Islam or it is the natural result of the defeatist mentality, which blindly accepts the values of the dominant culture as the supreme criterion. Consequently, Western civilization has become the judge of the merits and "faults" of Islam - not vice versa. The pioneer of apologetics in the Indo-Pak, sub-continent was Sir Sayyid Ahmad Khan and his colleague, Chiragh Ali. Later Sir Sayyid Ameer Ali followed suit. (Ameer Ali and Chiragh Ali were both Shiahs) Finally the entire Aligarh School raised its chorus to tender apologies on behalf of Islam to the West. Muhammad Ali Jauhar (a follower of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and the translator of the Holy Quran into English with whom some Western authors confuse with his name-sake, Muhammad Ali Jauhar (who was a renowned statesman and freedom-fighter) substantially adhered to the views of the Aligarh School. In Egypt, Shaikh Muhammad Abduh adopted a similar line of compromise and thus opened the door wide for the westernizers in the Arabic-speaking world who came after him. Once they began to proceed along this path, they found it almost impossible to set any limits for their extravagant sophistries. Jihad was interpreted as only a "defensive" war. Islamic teachings pertaining to war prisoners (slaves) were given the most strange and absurd meanings. Polygamy was halfheartedly conceded as only an emergency measure, the sooner declared unlawful, the better. Miracles mentioned in the Holy Quran were either denied outright or fantastic attempts were made to explain them away as natural phenomena. Angels were said to be merely "forces of nature" and Revelation (Wahy) the subjective result of extraordinary mental activity projected outwards resembling the hallucinations of the insane. Vanquished politically, the Muslims suffered no less serious defeat in the realm of thought and because of their mental paralysis, they could not grasp the guidance of Allah to His last Prophet. What you wrote about polygamy was absolutely correct. I would only add that verse 3 of Surah IV was not revealed to legalize polygamy. Divine law never prohibited polygamy and the Shariahs of all the prophets allowed it. Most of the Prophets had more than one wife. Before this verse descended upon the Holy Prophet, he. had three wives (Saudah, Ayesha and Umm Salamah - upon whom be the peace of Allah). Most of the companions of the Prophet were also polygamous. Thus there was no need to legalize an already lawful and well-recognized practice. The verse in question was revealed when many women in Medina had been widowed during the battle of Uhud and children left fatherless. Confronted with this problem, the Muslims were directed to solve it by dint of an already established and prevalent institution and to take two, three or even four wives from among the widows. As a result, the widows and orphans, instead of being left derelicts, were amicably absorbed among the various families. If this guidance from God, implied any new legislation, it is not permission for polygamy, but the restriction of the number of wives to four and a further stipulation that if a husband is not doing justice to all his wives, he must either treat them fairly or he should have only one wife. These two above-mentioned injunctions were not known nor recognized by the pagan Arabs and the present Bible also fails to mention them. The people who are trying to reinterpret Islam, I do not know whom they are trying to deceive - Allah or their own selves ? But I assure you that this impious fraud cannot last long. Because of their political hold, they try to thrust their views down the throats of the Muslim common folk and the Western press is patting them on the back. But there is a strong wave of resentment among the common people and public opinion in all Muslim lands against them is so intense as you cannot imagine while in America. When you go to any Muslim country, you will see that not only the simple-minded but even a majority of the modern-educated section is sick and tired of these novel interpretations of Islam which are an outrage against both its form and spirit. Those youth you meet at Columbia University are not the true representatives of Muslim public opinion. They speak only for a tiny minority who is regarded as a liability rather than an asset by their co-religionists. These persons, after returning to their native lands, live like foreigners. Their habits, tastes, behavior and thinking are all diametrically opposed to their fellow-Muslims. They do not mix with others and others do not mix with them. They are a native foreign race which was bred in the Muslim lands as, the by-product of European colonial rule. Since they know that they will never be able to persuade their people to adopt secularism by democratic means, they try to foist their alien ideologies on their unwilling subjects through high-handed despotism. Appreciative voices are encouraging them from the Western horizon that "the East is not yet ready for democracy." But these dictators have not the slightest appreciation for democratic ideals. These are the victims of the worst type of slavery. The West applauds them loudly only because of their blind faith in Western materialism and because their belief in Islam has been utterly undermined. As for the editorial you enclosed in your last letter from The Islamic Review, on the Family Laws Ordinance, you may be interested to know that as soon as the decree took effect last March 7th, I along with other ulema representing all recognized schools of thought, issued a joint statement criticizing in detail each and every section of the Ordinance and showing its repugnancy to the Quran and Sunnah. Instructions from the Government were given to the press not to publish it. Despite the prohibition, some persons dared to publish it anyhow. They were interrogated and harassed in various ways and some even imprisoned under the Public Safety Act. Meanwhile, eulogies on these "reforms" are being widely publicized at home and abroad. You have also asked me to comment on the editorial. Now I would only say that this fear of criticism on the part of the upholders of the Ordinance is sufficient comment in itself. In conclusion, I must apologize again for my inordinate delay in replying through not without reasons. With Salaams and best wishes, Yours in Islam, ABUL ALA New York. January 25, 1962 (Shaban 19, 1381) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maulana Maudoodi, Assalaam alaikum wa rahmatullah. Thank you so much for your highly informative letter of December 16th in which you took such pains to answer all my questions in the most satisfactory manner. Several weeks ago Zafrullah Khan came to give a special lecture at our mosque here in New York. Originally I had planned to attend but at the last minute, just couldn't bring myself to go. As you must know only too well, Zafrullah Khan is one of the most prominent leaders of the Ahmadiyya. Of the two branches, I think the Lahoris are more dangerous than the main group at Rabwah. The Qadianis are frank and out-spoken in their acceptance of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as Prophet condemning all those Muslims who reject his claim as Kaffirs, and thus are clearly outside the pale of Islam. The Lahori Ahmadiyyas, on the other hand, try to pose as perfectly good orthodox Muslims while at the same time propagating their heretical views in an underhanded way. Zafrullah Khan, I believe, belongs to the latter group. Although he likes to pose as an orthodox Muslim, he showed his true collars when he refused as a high Government official to participate in the funeral prayer at the death of Qaid-e-Azam just because the Imam was not a Qadiani! At a small shop in New York, which specializes in Oriental books and where Islamic books printed in Pakistan are available, I found an excellent little book on the Qadiani movement published by Shaikh Muhammad Ashraf in Lahore entitled, His Holiness: a Fearless and Frank Exposition of the Hollowness of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's Claim to Prophethood by "Phoenix" with a very good introduction by Zafar Ali Khan. This book provides the most illuminating study of the Mirza I have ever read in English, which includes copious quotations from his writings. After reading about his life, I wonder how it was possible for such otherwise intelligent scholars like Muhammad Ali Lahori to accept his fantastic claims unless they chose to follow him for some personal or material gain. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad struck me as a man completely lacking in any moral sensitivity and of very mediocre intellectual stature. There is no doubt in my mind that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was insane. "His visions (or more accurately, his hallucinations) assure him that God in heaven glorifies him and invests him with the highest of decorations. He is king of the Aryans. Jai Singh Bahadur (a Sikh name meaning victorious lion) and Lord Krishna. Mary is one of his names in which character he, or rather she, remains big with Jesus for a period of not more than ten months. The Jesus born is none else than the Mirza himself!" (Pp. 191-192) Isn't that proof he was a madman? I don't know why his relatives failed to recognize that and commit him to the asylum. If Mirza Ghulam Ahmad had been locked up in the mental hospital, he would have had no opportunity to spread his mischief. Then you would not have been imprisoned during the Punjab disturbances in 1953 nor would the death sentence ever have been meted out to you. If Mirza Ghulam Ahmad were alive today, his delusions of grandeur and persecution would be quickly diagnosed by the medical world as schizophrenia-paranoid type. Every line of his writings indicates his malady. As "Phoenix" writes: "Ghulam Ahmad, the prophet, was afflicted with persecution mania in an aggravated form. His claims keep pace with his sense of persecution. The more he feels persecuted the higher and higher his claims go on soaring. The insane persevere in their delusions the more they are crossed. Had the Muslim community let him alone and dismissed his claim as lunacy, his malady, if it were really one, would not have assumed the proportions it did." (Pp. 185-186) In the end, he sees in a vision that he has in fact become God Almighty and denounced those who refused to attest to the truth of his mission as "bastards”. Of all the voluminous volumes of books Mirza Ghulam Ahmad wrote, I haven't heard of any translated into English except a small work entitled The Teachings of Islam. They must be perfectly, aware how people would ridicule such absurdities and gibberish that masquerade as "revelations." But I think that his books, particularly his Haqiqat ul Wahy (The Truth About Revelation), certainly must be reprinted in Urdu and translated into English and other European languages, not for the general public but for the medical world. Haqiqat ul Wahy world be of great interest to students of abnormal psychology. Psychiatrists should regard it as a valuable document on schizophrenia which provides the professionally trained with first-hand knowledge how the paranoid mind works. Viewed in this light, an objective study of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's books could help scientific research in mental diseases. In one of the books you sent me some time back, you explained how the nationalists of Asia and Africa are perpetuating the same system as their former imperialist masters. The only difference is that the hands are changed. With the anti-Muslim riots at Aligarh and other cities in India where many innocent Muslims have been killed, this fact was immediately brought home. As an atheist and a firm believer in Socialism, Nehru follows the same materialistic creed as his former masters. He does not hesitate to use exactly the same kind of oppression as the British on his own people. If he is not himself guilty of instigating the massacres of the Muslims in India, he has done nothing to try to stop them or punish those responsible. The guiding principle of Western-style nationalism is hatred of minority groups. Nationalism decrees that all citizens must be of the same race speak the same language and are subjected to the same laws; it cannot tolerate differences, Conformity must be imposed at any cost. This principle has run rampant all over the world; we have witnessed it in the Soviet Union in her treatment of non-Russians, we have seen what happened to the Jews under Nazism and the plight of the Arabs in "Israel". Now the same tragedy is being repeated in India. I wonder if Nehru is taking his lesson from Nazism and Zionism in dispossessing the Indian Muslims of their property, driving them out of the country and now killing them in large numbers. How this contrasts with the tolerance of the Millet system in the Islamic state where protected religious minorities are allowed to develop their own cultural life and live according to their own laws unmolested. Your explanation why Islam prohibits pictures was extremely enlightening and logical. I have always believed that there is an intimate relationship between great art and religious faith. To me, the great mosques like that of lbn Tulun in Cairo, the mosque of Cordoba, those in Istanbul and their many counterparts throughout the Muslim world, the exquisite calligraphy which adorns the finest copies of the Quran, the rugs, textiles, pottery and glassware are tangible expressions of the spiritual values of Islam. Did not the Holy Prophet himself declare that God is beauty and delights in the beautiful? When Islamic civilization was at its peak, art was not something to be hoarded in museums but an integral part of even the most humble Muslim's life. Art seems to have no place in the daily life of Western man. Western clothing and ultra-modern architecture is the ugliest things I have ever seen. The so-called "non- objective" or "abstract" painting so fashionable now a days, bears a striking resemblance to the pictures created by schizophrenics in the mental hospitals. What these paintings say is: "Life has no meaning and no pur. There is no God. All is chaps and nothingness." I have no doubt that the decadence of modern art is intimately related to the so-called "philosophy of change." If everything must continually be in a state of flux, then it logically follows that there is no stability in anything; all must be limited to a particular time and place and there is nothing of permanent value. All great art must be based on implicit faith in enduring moral and aesthetic truths. I think that the corruption in modern art, as in all other fields of culture, stems directly from the rejection of transcendental ideals. Without the concept of absolute truth, it is not possible for a man to achieve virtue. How can anybody attain dignity and nobility of character if he expects what is cherished today to be obsolete tomorrow?" The little I have read about Shah Wali Ullah puzzles me very much. On the one hand I read that many Muslim scholars in the lndo-Pak sub-continent consider him second in greatness only to al-Ghazzali. On the other hand, it is said that his masterpiece, Hujjatullah al Baligha provided the inspiration for the westernizing modernist movement by urging the supremacy of rationalism, encouraging the translation of the Holy Quran into foreign languages (he himself translated the Quran into Persian), and rejecting all the so-called "Arab" elements of Islam as relevant only for the particular time and place and primitive society of Muhammad's day, it is also claimed that Shah Wali Ullah rejected the authority of the four Orthodox schools and wanted to formulate a new legal system in conformity to the needs of the Muslims in India. He is said to have declared only the purely religious, spiritual portions of the Quran and Sunnah were binding and the rest covering various aspects of worldly life, relevant only for seventh-century Arabia. Now this is what I fail to understand: Shah Wali Ullah lived before the impact of British colonialism. According to the little I have read about him, his philosophy provided the justification and foundation for the so-called Muslim apologetics, which came after him. Did he formulate his ideas independently or if not, what were the outside influences upon him? In his book The Religious Thought of Sir Sayyid Ahmad Khan recently published by the Institute of Islamic Culture, Lahore, Bashir Ahmad Dar says that Sir Sayyid Ahmad Khan constantly quoted Shah Wali Ullah to sanction his views. Sir Sayyid Ahmad's Khan's apologetics mutilated the teachings Of Islam beyond recognition, and exerted the decisive influence upon Sayyid Ameer Ali as well as Maulana Abul Kalam Azad. Even Allama lqbal could not entirely escape his influence, which is particularly evident in his Reconstruction of Religious Thought in Islam. I know that Allama lqbal was the greatest Muslim poet of the 20th century some of whose works, even in English translation, are most inspiring but where exactly did he stand? Some scholars insist that he was a modernist par excellence and in support of this view, they can quote copiously from The Reconstruction of Religious Thought in Islam which tries to interpret Islamic doctrine according to the criteria of various contemporary European philosophers and enthusiastically praised the Chemist experiment in Turkey. Yet in his Persian and Urdu poetry, he criticized Western culture and its founders most severely and castigated those Muslims who abandoned their heritage to copy the Westerners. No skeptic or cynic, who a modernist must be, could write on Islamic themes, as lqbal did, with such pure and noble feelings. What I cannot understand about Allama lqbal is, why he contradicts himself in so many places? I can't believe that he was really hypocritical; his voice rings much too sincere for that. Then what is the explanation? Could you also tell me something about Maulana Abul Kalam Azad (1888-1958) as there is only one book I know of in English dealing with him by Professor Humayun Kabir which I found in the New York Public Library but it is not adequate. All I know about him was that he was a freedom fighter closely associated with Mahatma Gandhi, President of the Congress Party for almost two decades and then after India's independence, held the post of Education Minister until his death. I also read that he was a learned Alim, a master of Urdu prose and wrote a highly controversial commentary on the Holy Quran. Unfortunately, none of his writings are yet available in English translation. I would be most grateful for any light you can throw on the subjects raised in this letter. Yours in Islam, MARYAM JAMEELAH Lahore, February 10, 1962 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maryam Jameelah, Assalaam alaikum wa rahmatullah. Thank you for your letter of January 25th. The views about Mirza Ghulam Ahmad expressed by you are absolutely correct. Even for the sake of argument if we suppose that a prophet could appear after Muhammad (peace be upon him)- although this supposition would be quite contrary to Quran and Hadith-yet when we pause to think how a man of such low moral and mental stature has been crowned as a prophet, we can easily understand the depth of degradation to which the concept of Prophethood has fallen in our times. Most of the books written by this imposter not only remain untranslated into English but their reprint in their Urdu original also is not ventured by his followers. The circulation of his writings is carefully guarded and withheld from the general public because the Qadianis have come to know their absurdity and repulsiveness. You have drawn a true picture of Lahore Ahmadiyya and the Qadianis at Rabwah but your impression that Sir Zafrullah Khan belongs to the Lahori group is mistaken. He is a confirmed Qadiani and believes the Mirza to be a prophet. Your analysis of the Indian Government's attitude towards Muslims is quite true. Generally speaking, modern political leaders in Asia and Africa are freedom loving only in the sense that they do not wish to see the reins of political power in foreign hands. But in every other aspect of thought and behavior, they are faithful slaves of their former masters and they invariably follow in their footsteps. Few of them possess free and brave minds. Nehru has a complete soul of an Englishman within him. He is an Indian in his outward physical appearance only. As for Shah Wali Ullah, he was a great and true scholar of Islam first and last. I cannot guarantee that I endorse his each and every word but there is no doubt that he was a first-rank muhaddith (Traditionalist) and Fuqeeh (Jurist). In the Indo-Pakistan sub-continent he was the pioneer in propagating knowledge of Hadith and every group of our ulema is indebted to him for dissemination of the Holy Prophet's teachings. Due to his authoritative and respectable posit- ion every "reformist" here tries to exploit his name, tears his words out of context and distorts them to serve his own ends. All his books are either in Arabic or Persian and any person conversant with his ideas know fully well how dishonest these support-seekers are! They are putting strange and fantastic constructions upon his words and are trying to dig out such ideas as are nowhere found in his writings. Shah Wali Ullah never advocated the "supremacy of rationalism" and he never wanted to eliminate the "Arab elements" from Islam. He was a great admirer of all four orthodox schools of Fiqh and did not aspire to evolve a "new legal system" to the exclusion of the former ones. However, seeing the rigidity and antagonism between the time-honored schools, he had expressed a wish that it would be better to evolve by a synthetically process a new legal system out of Hanafi and Shafi Fiqh especially. But he never went beyond that. I do not deny the fact that Allama lqbal aptly criticized the West. and did a great service to the cause of Islam especially through his poetry. But unfortunately, as you already pointed out, his writings are not free from contra. Firstly, lqbal had been constantly passing through different stages of mental evolution during his life span and only in the last years of his life had been able to form in his mind a clear and unalloyed conception of Islam. In his earlier life, many extraneous ideas and influences were freely intermingled with his Islamic notions. Secondly, during a major portion of his life, instead or being a Muslim adhering to strictly cosmopolitan views, there was always a tinge of "Muslim nationalism" from which he could not escape. That is why he felt hesitant in condemning Muslim leaders and modernist thinkers. Sometimes, due to poetic license, he went to the extremes of rationalizing and supporting even their un-Islamic activities. Thirdly, you should beat in mind that many historical and political factors were at work to sustain deep-rooted sympathies for Turkey among the Indo-Pakistan Muslims. These Muslims, after being enslaved by British imperialism, had a sentimental attachment to this last vestige of their vanished glory and defended it in every possible way. As a reward for what Kemal Ataturk had done to save this tottering Muslim State, Muslim scholars and thinkers here were prepared to condone Kemal's anti- Islamic and manifestly blasphemous deeds. With this mental and emotional background, lqbal also until 1930 went on offering apologies and explanations for Kemal Ataturk's "reforms" and trying to find for them a place within the Islamic order. But at last even our poet's patience seemed to be over-taxed and he began to condemn Kemalist innovations openly. Until 1921, Maulana Abdul Kalam Azad was an enthusiastic exponent of Islamic revival and Khilafat movement. But afterwards he turned a complete somersault in thought and action, so much so that people began to rub their eyes to make sure whether he was the same Azad or by some process of metamorphic a new person had been born within him. Abdul Kalam Azad was now a hundred per cent Indian nationalist and a vociferous protagonist of a single Indian nationhood of Muslims and non-Muslims. He assimilated the so- called "unity of religions" concept expounded by some Hindu philosophers and the Western theory of Darwinian evolution. The imprint of these theories can clearly be seen in his Tafseer on Quran. Islam engenders within us a spiritual refinement and an aesthetic taste, which enables us to shun ugliness and to do everything beautifully. Atheism and materialism, on the other hand, pervert human tastes and make men adore and glorify ugliness. That is why under the spell of present materialistic civilization, in every branch of art and literature, degeneration has set in. Now I take leave with Salaams and best wishes. Yours in Islam, ABUL ALA New York, March 22, 1962 (Shawwal 16,1391) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maulana Maudoodi, Assalaam alaikum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh. Ever since your passport was invalidated last summer to Africa and the Arab countries and especially since your publisher, Mian Tufail Muhammad was arrested and imprisoned, I have been feeling extremely anxious regarding your safety. If your reply is delayed a month or more, I start worrying about whether you have fallen ill or if, God forbid, you must share the same fate as your publisher. I am as much concerned about your welfare as if you were a close relative of mine in grave danger even though we have never met face to face. I only pray to Allah to spare you from all harms. No doubt you have been wondering all these months why I have hesitated to promptly accept your generous offer to provide me with all possible support and assistance once I agreed to come to Lahore. The truth of the matter is that I could not muster the courage to cut irrevocably all the ties from my family and my past and confidently step out into the unknown. That is why every time you raised the question, I simply evaded it, hoping that somehow the situation here would take a turn for the better. Now I know that I had hoped in vain. Briefly summarized, my problem is this. I am a hopeless misfit. I just cannot live in this society. Since I have no employment record worth mentioning, no commercial abilities or interests, no specialized training or professional skills and no college, diploma - all of this on top of the stigma of having spent more than two years from March 1957 to April 1959 in mental hospitals. I have no hope of finding any productive, useful or honest livelihood congenial to my temperament. Whenever I go looking for work, the employment agencies give me a uniformly cold reception. The principal function of these employment agencies is to screen out so-called "undesirables" that is, people who have no "market-value," and from their viewpoint, I am absolutely worthless. My father who is a salesman and any mother who is a highly respected social-worker, both intend to retire next year after which they will feel compelled on their reduced income, to cut off my financial support. Even worse, they want to move away from the four-room flat where we have been living ever since September 1939, sell their furniture and household effects and travel from place to place for their own pleasure until illness or death strikes them down. Since my parents know fully well why we cannot live together in peace and harmony, they will not allow me to accompany them. Even if they did, I would feel intensely unhappy and frustrated living their kind of life, which never transcends mundane pleasure and appears to me so superficial, empty and meaningless. Thus now more than ever since my discharge from the hospital three years ago, the constant threat is hanging over my head that unless I find remunerative work before my parents retire and break up housekeeping, I will be compelled to subsist on the dole from the City Welfare Department or face the dismal prospect of life-long commitment. Rehabilitation is impossible. I will never have any place in this society. Without the support of my parents, I could not live here for a single day as a free citizen. I would far rather he dead than a living death in such humiliation and misery. I frankly confess that if it were not for my faith, in Islam, I would have committed suicide years ago. After declining your kind invitation for so long, would it be too late to accept it now? Your- sister-in-faith, MARYAM JAMEELAH Lahore, March 31, 1962 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maryam Jameelah, Assalaam alaikum wa rahmatullah Thank you for your letter of March 22nd, which expressed your sincere and deep anxiety about my health and safety. This is but a natural consequence of that kinship which is inherent among all true Muslims. By the grace of Allah, I am quite safe and sound. I am convinced that a man, who trusts in Allah and honestly works for Him, enjoys the blessings of His guidance and protection. During these last thirty years, I have never for a moment bothered about my personal safety or thought it necessary to take any special precautions. Whatever I thought was the truth, I uttered it unambiguously and pursued it without hesitation to the end. Those who did not like that, left no stone unturned to remove me from their way, but all their conspiracies failed and in fact proved beneficial for my task. I hope kind Providence has a similar fate in store for me and my adversaries in the future. I have long fully appreciated all your difficulties and problems. I was never very hopeful about your future in America. That is why in my very first letter to you, I advised you to leave America and migrate to some Muslim country, preferably Pakistan. I had thought that if you came at once to Pakistan, I would be glad to shelter you as a member of my family in my home. In due course, you would have had the opportunity through my introduction to meet virtuous young Muslims. If any of them was found to be a suitable match for you, bomight be united in wedlock and prove to be good workers for the Islamic movement here. But when it appeared that you thought it feasible to remain in America, I dropped the idea. But now again when I ponder over your problems, I am driven renew my offer to you. On account of foreign exchange restrictions, it is not possible for me to give you any monetary help while you are in America. So I think you had better leave immediately before your financial position worsens. Once you are here, inshallah you will have no cause to worry about your future. I want you to make the whole position clear to Your Parents. You should tell them frankly how difficult it would be for you to continue living in America after their retirement and why your welfare demands that they should willingly allow you to settle in Pakistan. You should also tell them that the man who is advising you and inviting you to take this crucial step is perhaps next to them your most sincere well wishes. He will not be content to extend mere advice but he would be prepared to shoulder all the subsequent responsibilities after this advice is accepted. If you and your parents trust him, God willing, their trust will not be betrayed. Your brother-in-faith, ABUL ALA New York, April 7, 1962 (Dhul-Qadah 2, 13SI) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maulana Maudoodi, Assalaam alaikum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh. I just received your registered letter of March 31st, and I accept your invitation and will follow all your advice with feelings of deepest gratitude. One young man I had a talk with at the mosque told me of his conversation with Maulana Fazlur Rahman Ansari Al Qaderi, head of the World Federation of Islamic Missions in Karachi while visiting New York who allegedly said that "the convert must be a mental case 1" My first reaction was that this was the most outrageous statement I had ever heard and I told him so. I have made mistakes in my life and admit I have done some foolish things but my acceptance of Islam was the most positive, most constructive and sanest of all my actions. I am also convinced beyond doubt that Islam is the most potent medicine for mental health. However, the Maulana may well be correct in the sense that because the transition from Judaism or Christianity to Islam means nothing less than the transition from Western to Islamic civilization and a wholehearted adoption of an entirely different way of life, perfectly happy, prosperous, well-adjusted individuals like my parents, sister, aunts, uncles and cousins, would lack any motivation, much less willingness to make personal sacrifice to reject their formerly cherished beliefs and activities in exchange for something so alien to all they had previously known or experienced. Only a person extremely unhappy or at least dissatisfied with his existing mode of life would be willing undergo such a radical change. Thus if I had not experienced such emotional turmoil and acute maladjustment, I would never had made such strenuous efforts to find a more satisfactory philosophy of life. Had I been so favorably endowed by nature as the other members of my family, I would have had no cause or reason to doubt the goodness and soundness of our society and I would hive passed my life exactly like my parents and my sister. So, you can see that Allah wants what is ultimately best for His servants and what seemed like such a curse could be a blessing. It will be stimulating to live in Lahore because within the last decade or two since the banning of al Ikhwan al Muslimun and the secularization and nationalization of al-Azhar University, Lahore has replaced Cairo as the center of Islamic activity. I will also like Lahore because Islamic literature is so easily available there. It seems to me that more Islamic books are published in Lahore than anywhere else. If I fail through negligence or laziness to acquire mastery in Islamic learning, I will have only myself to blame. Please write directly to my parents and explain everything. One of the reasons they might object to our plans is because like all other Westerners, they think that Muslims have nothing but contempt for women and keep them in abject subjection like chattel and that in Pakistan women are ill-treated and denied their rights as individuals. Again may I convey to you my deepest gratitude. It is only because of the mercy and compassion of Allah that I am not left to struggle isolated and alone. May Allah bless you. Your sister in Islam, MARYAM JAMEELAH Lahore, April 18,1962 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maryam Jameelah, Assalaam alaikum wa rahmatullah. I received your letter dated April 7th yesterday and am glad to know that you have accepted my counsel and are prepared to come to Pakistan. I pray to Allah that He may guide you to what is right and in your best interest. I would advise you to travel by sea because the fare is cheaper than by air and you can take with you much more luggage. You will embark at the port at Karachi and from there you will go to Lahore by train. N4any fast trains run between these two cities and the journey usually last about 22 hours. After you have made all your final arrangements at the Pakistan Consulate in New York, you should promptly inform Chaudhri Ghulam Muhammad of 23 Strachen Road, Karachi-1, about the date of your ship's departure, the name of your ship and its company and the most probable date of your arrival in Karachi. I am writing him a letter requesting him to receive you at Karachi, make the necessary arrangements for your trip from Karachi to Lahore and at once send me a telegram on your arrival. At the Lahore depot, either I myself will personally receive you or my secretary, Malik Ghulam Ali will be present to escort you to my house. It would be preferable for you to come not later than the third week of June. I intend to go to Africa in mid-July. If you come at least two or three weeks before my departure abroad, I hope you and my family would be adjusted to each other and when you begin to feel at home, I would be able to proceed on my tour free from all anxiety. I think it is advisable to mention a few things, which would help you in your psychological and physical adaptation to your new environment. As you must already know, our way of life and social conditions a vastly different from those in America. Here we lack so many facilities and amenities, which Americans take for, granted as a matter of course. The language barrier will also be troublesome to some extent. Due to these reasons, the first months here will certainly prove fatiguing and taxing upon your nerves. Unless you have patience and are resolutely determined to mould your life according to our pattern and live and die among your Muslim brethren here, you might find it extremely difficult to reconcile your- self to the unavoidable difficulties in the initial stage. Although I will try my best to look after your needs and make things easier, your steadfast cooperation is essential. Two of my daughters are near to you in age. My twenty-three year old Humaira is studying for her Masters degree in English literature and my nineteen-year-old Asma is working for her Bachelor of Arts in Economics. I hope they will make friends with you, teach you Urdu and in exchange, learn from you the enthusiasm of a new convert. Since my wife knows little English, the language barrier may at first hinder your intimacy with her but I hope you will learn enough Urdu within two or three months to be able to understand and carry an ordinary conversation. After you have learned Urdu, it will be relatively easy for you to learn Arabic, because both these languages share more vocabularies in common. In due course, I will also try to arrange for teaching you Arabic. Regarding your marriage, I will leave the matter entirely to your discretion. is no question of any sort of pressure on my part. But if you ever think of leading a married life I will try to help you in your choice of a suitable life partner. In any case, I am prepared to welcome you forever as a member of my family. I am inviting you to share my hospitality in the spirit with which the early Muslim inhabitants of Medina extended their invitation to their harassed and persecuted brethren in Mecca, and I wish you to respond with a similar spirit of Hijrah (migration), convinced that the bonds of faith are firmer and stronger than relationship of flesh and blood. There is still another reason why you should postpone any decision about marriage for the present. When you begin to live in my house, my wife will try to give you practical training how a Pakistani Muslim wife runs her home and manages her household affairs. If at all you think of leading a married life, this knowledge will be indispensable. You would not be happy tied to a westernized man but naturally want to be married to a youth who lives as a good Pakistani Muslim. For such a marital relationship to achieve success, it is essential to learn the etiquette of Muslim families here. You should also take note of the fact that when you reach Lahore this part of our country will be in the severest grip of hot weather. In June, July and August the summer heat reaches its maximum point and the day-time temperatures average well over 100 degrees F. Our houses are not air-conditioned but we do use electric fans. Eventually you will become accustomed to our tropical seasons but you must be prepared to bear the first onslaught on this extreme climate. I am happy that the Pakistan Consulate General in New York has offered to help arrange transit facilities. You should ascertain from him the period of stay for which a visa can be issued and the procedure of obtaining domicile certificate in due course. I would advise you not to change your nationality now. It would be much wiser for you to stay here for a reasonable period on your American passport. You should bring with you all necessary belongings, which you can easily manage. Due to heavy customs duties, foreign products are so expensive as you cannot imagine in America. Therefore leave nothing behind which you may need, assuming that it could easily be replaced in Pakistan. I am writing a separate letter to your parents. I advise you to introduce me to them yourself and show them some of my letters to you so they may be able to grasp fully the background of my present letter to them. Your brother in Islam, ABUL ALA ahore, April 18, 1962 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Mr. and Mrs. Marcus, I am taking the liberty of writing this letter to you from Pakistan. The medium of introduction between you and me is your dear Daughter, Miss Margaret Marcus who has been corresponding with me for almost a year and a half. Briefly, I will explain the reasons for my present letter to you. I think you know already that your daughter has been studying Islam for many years and that even prior to her formal conversion, she had begun to write articles and essays in defense of Islam. Later, after careful consideration and due deliberation, she solemnly resolved to enter into the fold of Islam and accept this faith as her way of life. As I am also a humble follower of Islam and have worked all my adult life to promote its cause, our mutual interests invariably brought us into contact with each other and we became intimately acquainted with one another. What she has told me about her present difficulties in her letters has made me realize that there seems to be no future for her in America. Rather, I think that if she remains in America under existing circumstances, her entire life may be ruined. Therefore I have sincerely advised her that she should make her home in some Muslim country and if she chooses to come to Pakistan, she is welcome to my home and hearth, not as a temporary guest but as a permanent member of my family. I have great admiration for her character and ideals and I have come to regard her as dear and near to me as any of my blood relations. In this spirit, I have invited her to come and live with me and my family. She is prepared to accept my invitation but she would hesitate to go unless her kind parents give their consent to you. That is the purpose of my this letter Had you known anything about me beforehand, I would have nothing more to add. But being an utter stranger to you, I cannot but assure you that you can fully repose your confidence in me on this matter. Naturally your first reaction will not favor her migration from America to an Eastern country but if you would consider the matter more deeply, keeping in view the ultimate welfare of your daughter, I hope you will agree with me that this is the only solution to the predicament in which she finds herself. Pakistan is preferable to other Muslim countries because English is widely spoken and understood and converts are highly respected. As for myself, you can ask anything you want to know about me from Miss Margaret Marcus. I am sure that my wife and children will prove an equal, if not better substitute for her American family. God willing, you should have no cause to worry about her future. With best regards. Sincerely yours, ABUL ALA New York, May 2, 1962 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Mr. Maudoodi, Thank you for your kind letter of April 18th, extending to my daughter, Margaret, an invitation to live in your home. My wife and I are deeply moved by your gracious offer of hospitality. Since embracing Islam a year ago, particularly as an ardent convert, it seems that living in our society presents practical difficulties. Margaret is eager to accept your invitation and as her parents, we are ready to give her our consent although it means going to live in a distant land. Especially in view of the zeal she has shown, we are hopeful this would give her the opportunity for a happy and meaningful life. Coming to a country with such a different culture will surely require much forbearance during a period of adjustment. With the sympathy and understanding indicated in your letters combined with Margaret's ardor, I am confident that her entrance into your family life will be successful. I was pleased to note in your letter to Margaret the advice regarding change of citizenship and marriage. It is my paternal wish that she took irrevocable steps only after a reasonable period of residence. She goes to your country with our blessings and we shall maintain our continuing interest in her welfare. Therefore please feel at liberty to write to me about her at any time. Mrs. Marcus joins me in conveying to you, your wife and children our heartfelt gratitude. Very sincerely, HERBERT S. MARCUS WHAT OTHERS SAY ABOUT MARYAM JAMEELAH'S BOOKS 1. ISLAM VERSUS THE WEST Maryam Jameelah (formerly Margaret Marcus) is quite a well-known figure in the Muslim world now. This book, comprising various essays by her, some of which were written even before she formally, embraced Islam. Starting with the story of how she got interested in Islam when in New York, the book is by and large a critical survey of the writings of modernist Muslims like Mr. A. A. Fyzee of India and Ziya Gokalp of Turkey. The writings of orientalists like Mr. Wilfred Cantwell Smith have also been critically examined. Maryam Jameelah is a great admirer of al Ikhwan al Muslimun of Egypt. The two Muslims of this century highly praised by her are Sayyid Qutb and Allama Muhammad lqbal. Towards the end of the book shas also treated in a philosophical vein such topics as the prohibition of pictures and the significance of "Taqbir." The book ends with a negative answer to the question, "Is Westernization inevitable?" The book is well bound and deserves wide publicity. The Radiance Viewsweekly, Delhi, In this collection of essays, she makes a brilliant analysis of the folly and futility of compromising the principles and spiritual values of Islam in a vain attempt to prove their compatibility with the material aspirations and drive or aggrandizement that set apart the spirit of the modern West. She is firmly opposed to the so-called westernizers within the fold of Islam and with eloquent reasoning, she argues that Islamic society can flourish and contribute its own in a technocratic civilization without having to sacrifice the inner principles of its being. Dawn, Karachi. 2. ISLAM AND MODERNISM It goes to the credit of an American-born convert that she made a searching criticism of the philosophical sources of western materialism, modern philosophy, and the fallacy of modernism. Showing the futility of the apologetic approach of Muslim modernists towards Islam, she demands that they should put an end once and for all interpreting Islam through foreign criteria and summon the courage to stand up and defend an unadulterated Islam. She upholds Islam in its pure form and stresses the necessity for a re-evaluation of Islamic history in that light. Written in a bitter tone but lucid style, the book makes very useful reading. The Pakistan Observer, Dacca. The book is extremely readable and thought provoking. Also it contains a number of seminal generalizations, each one of which asks for a book. Like all true Muslims, the author combines practice with preaching. Her photograph at the beginning of the book shows her enveloped from head to foot in Islamic Purdah. This eminent lady has proved that Purdah, if observed according to Allah's laws, cannot impede women's mental development but in fact is a sign of her dignity and nobility. The Criterion: Journal of the Islamic Research Academy, 3. ISLAM IN THEORY AND PRACTICE This is the inquiry of a restless soul, courageous and bold, frank and forthright, promising and challenging. The day of Islamic supremacy, this American-Jewish convert pleads, shall not be far away if only the Muslims realize their destiny, live up to the ideals of Islam, strive to uphold the Word of God in every walk of their lives to establish Islam in its entirety in political, social, economic cultural and all other aspects. Then Islam would be a living force and not just an academic proposition. As in other writings of hers, Maryam Jameelah is at her best when she takes to account Western philosophy, thought, ideals and practices. Her advantage is that she was brought up and nurtured in Western society and educated and trained in the Western tradition, so naturally she is better fitted to know its dark spots and the mainsprings of evil which have polluted Western society and which are now corroding the foundations of Muslim society with its obnoxious influences. The personalities, movements and parties dedicated to the cause of the revival of Islam, particularly in our own age, have been very ably summed up and the penetrating eyes of the author have been able to assess remarkably well the real worth and status of persons and parties of the recent past and present. Few writers on Islam have that balanced outlook, that courage to speak the truth, that integrity of mission, that maturity of thought and detailed grasp on the subject which this American-born lady displays in her short, terse essays. The Criterion, Karachi. 4. ISLAM VERSUS AHL AL KITAB PAST AND PRESENT Really! Amazing! Incredible! What? - are exclamations that come out often as one feels the impact of this great exposure and indictment of Zionism and the Christian church. The author conveys much of her points by the very words of the people she talks about. To avoid quoting out of context, she uses many lengthy extracts. The result is a very fair, balanced and objective presentation. None can deny that this is the greatest assault on Judaism and Christianity both in theory and practice coming from a Muslim pen for a very long time. How has she set about it? Firstly, it must be mentioned that the author's history places her at a position of advantage to perform such a task. She grew up in a Jewish family, a member of the Jewish minority in Christian America and then embraced Islam. Being a near insatiable bibliophile as well entitles her to a claim of inside knowledge of the three faiths. All these assets are brought into good use here. The lengthy chapter on Judaism is a well-documented outline of Jewish beliefs, culture, complexes, deviations and history. The author provides an analysis of the background to the rise of Zionism and how a racist religion, garbed with modern political and military sophistry and bred on the support of Western treachery and collusion, has grown into the menacing monstrosity of Zionism. The second chapter contains the post energetic refutation of Christianity that I leave ever come across. It is a historical, a moral, an academic and indeed, an outright refutation of Christianity. The author answers the usual Christian accusations against Islam with even greater vehemence. In this, one sees how much she detests the apologetic approach of answering back. Rather she throws the whole table on the Christians. She gives a lucid and highly informative analysis of the aims and moods of operation of the Christian missionary. The last chapter rounds off beautifully her arguments against racist Judaism and neo-imperialist, man-made Christianity. She presents Islam as the only authentic religion through which mankind can be united. This book is Maryam Jameelah's best work to date. The Muslim: Journal of the Federation of Student Islamic societies in the United Kingdom and Eire, London. 5. AHMAD KHALIL: THE BIOGRAPHY OF A PALESTINIAN ARAB REFUGEE This nicely printed book has much to commend itself to readers. Since the story was written by a convert from Zionism who herself witnessed all the ups and downs, her treatment of the whole tale is superb. Besides the elements of suspense and surprise, vivid description and good characterization sustain the reader's interest at high pitch. The plot from beginning to end is so well woven that the reader's interest never sags. The pen-portraits of Ahmad Khalil, his brother, Khalifa and his cousin, Rashid are very well drawn and life- like. The Pakistan Review, Lahore Religious exaltation is well known but faith has its depths too when overwhelmed by suffering, pain and defeat, man is sustained by Allah's love. Ahmad Khalil in parts successfully conveys the quiet piety of those who live in true humility before Allah. The book catches the religious dignity or the common Muslim family living next to the soil where women are modest and hardworking and the men brave and industrious. The characterization of the sensitive boy, Khalifa, whose life is haunted by the brutality of the Israelis, shows that the author is capable of presenting psychological realities. Many people in the West believe that the Israelis have a better right than the Arabs to Palestine because they are "progressive" and have made the desert bloom. The poor and the backward deserve the worst that comes to them. Ahmad Khalil is a stirring repudiation of this theory of "progress". The Criterion, Karachi.
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| | Friday, February 02, 2001 - 02:34 pm HAPPENED TO THIS PAGE? WHY NO ONE IS POSTING ANYTHING? IS IT BECAUSE WHAT THE SISTER (Nuura ) FORWARDED THAT IS MAKING YOU STOP POSTING? JUST ASKING.
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| | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 02:36 am Just Asking do you know I fell a sleep reading all that staff? But still i didnt manage to finish and at the end of it i couldnt remember what it was about. Anyway others who are not posting here I guese it takes a lifetime to download this page with a 14kbps modem like alex's. lol Alex Next time you do your Annual budget, please make a provision for a higher speed computer that is if you ever manage to read this massage. Nuura Thanks for the educative article you pasted here. You would have done the likes of Alex a favour by giving us a link to where the article was placed.
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| | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 07:19 am Just a thought, are you saying if someone brings Islamic issues to this place people will fall sleep? I agree. Islam issues is boring to many people, but other things are not, uh? Nuura, don't ever bring Islamic issues to this place. They are boring. You should not have made people away from this place.
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| | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 05:03 pm Good evening to all especially the ladies I have met in Minneapolis. Thank you for your good hospitality. Wow what is going on here. Sister noora has posted quite a lot. She has posted a page that is equivalent to all my postings at least hers is good. Thank you sister. Ps: just a technical tip. Next time give us the link and save Somalinet some harddrive space. I have just read that their office in Mogadishu was shot down due to non-payment of rent. Just a though: Speaking of offices been closed what is going on out there? Before I forget man let me tell you Minneapolis is a wild place. If you ever get the chance do visit. I plan to go back there when they are having the Somali week thing. It’s like been in a carnival. Brother did you read all Nura’s posting? I tried to do it, but with my slow modem and the free Internet pop up adds. You know I was saying oh Nura do you know that you could have given us the link page Oh Nura babe why are you torturing me. well she meant well. Aaxoow: Brother why did you tell me not to come to Minnesota? Brother I liked the place. Caraweelo: How are you? I hear that the US embassy will be moved to Jerusalem. That is your take on that? Please put some spin in to it. PS: I have met a very interesting lady in Minneapolis she kind of remained me you. I could bring to myself to ask her if she was you. Mr Cool: What is going down in down under? Deeqa: How could I forget you? Are you still tutoring the little kids or you are torturing them? Or by now you have given up on them. Please don’t they are our future. Just tell them not to grow up like Alex. Tell them to strive like brother WABS or Just a thought. Good night.
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| | Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 05:07 am Alex Hi there! What is going down in down under? The weather is a killer! However, I kinda like how tanned I got. So how have you been? Let me quote your last article addressed to me, "Mr Cool What do you mean full price. Let me ask you this, if I buy her a full price item, do I get a full service? It's just a thought. " LOL!!!!! You misunderstood dear. I was talking about you making yourself high and acting like no one can fit into your standards. Believe me a lot of women will get tempted. Anyhow, what is this buying her full price item and demanding a full service? My god Boy! Don't act so cheap. A real woman's service is priceless let me point that out and so is a man's service . I know there are some cheap sisters out there for the love of God I saw it on Saturday, I went to this wedding. And my God I am trying to get the image out of my head. You can't but someone's love or service as you call it with money. If you see someone like that then my brother run for your life cause nothing good is going to come out of it. When you see someone letting themselves get bought with items… ohhhh NO NO NO. You wouldn't want that person cause anyone can get them. Look for the priceless always. " Mr Cool Macaane means those guys who are too nice, that is not good I hear. There is not such a cheep girl , just price deference. It depends how someone negotiates." Once again you made me laugh. Price deference! LOL. You always have the answers to everything. I see a wise man that likes not to insult a sister My dear again there is no price and negotiates. Maybe there is however, I refuse to believe it. What is wrong with a guy that is too nice? Take Care, Caraweelo Greetings good woman! Deeqa Sup sis? Just a Question Who wears the pants in my relationship? Have a guess shushhhhhhh keep it quite there. Pants are not important nowadays.
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| | Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 03:20 pm Salaams everyone, Just reporting in live. Well sort of; a horrible, horrible case of the flu hit me sometime yesterday; I was an idiot for not getting those flu shots when I had the chance. BTW, did it (flu shot) work for anyone? How's everyone? More importantly, Where's everyone? Caraweelo, Xaali, TLG, Lady Jane, Ladan, Mullah, Nasir, Sagal, X, Wabs (how are the Gryphons doing?). People come back. My hand goes to the faithful: Alex and....er, just Alex. BTW, Alex, one of the kids I torture....er, tutor...is just like you: obnoxious, smart-ass, adorable. He's bad at spellling but good at math too, just like you. Think there's a relationship? Incidentally, he's the only boy I tutor (torture). The rest are all highschool girls with BIG AMBITIONS. Like graduating from highschool. Oh, and about me dating: I was just trying to stir up the pot, you asked for a controversy didn't you? Nuura: Thanks for the posting. Very interesting article. Deserves it's own thread don't you think? Just a Thought: How are you brother? Ignore the fellow "Just Asking". He's the kind of person who uses Islam to pigeon-hole people. You have to be a Good Muslim and love the article or a Bad, Bad, Westernized person and object to it's location. For God's sake, nobody reads the Qur'an in the bath. Mr. Cool: Nothing's up, other than the roof over my head, and the sky--my baby brother steams up when I say that Got a tan, eh? Where? [tongue-in-cheek] Take care everyone. [Ah-choooo!] Alxamdullilah....
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| | Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 06:11 pm Deeqa, I happened to enjoy that article. everything goes here. Even the Quranic ayats can be read on here.
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| | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 08:30 am Good morning to all of you, and hop you are all healthy. Well at least some of you. This is just informational. I was watching the news last night and saw an Ibola alert in Toronto Canada, So please those of us who are in the United states, be careful when you come in contact Canadians. First let me start with Deeqo: I hope you fell better soon. I have seen people get sick from the flu, luckily God has spared me so far. “ Knock on wood”. I can’t handle getting sick for several reasons. Reason #1 Can’t take a day off.( Self employed people don’t have off days). Reason #2 Don’t have someone to take care of me. ( This is when I wish there was a Temp agency who offers girlfriends, No No No don’t think of escort services those are expensive ) Reason #3 No food in the fridg. Just sodas. Deeqa I’m bad at every thing I touch, not just spelling. Keep up the good work god will reward you with a nice husband. Deeqo please make sure you encourage the girls to finish college. By the way why only one boy? Or did the others quit on you? I bet if I go to the principal’s office and ask for your tutor file, I will find comments saying that you are the “TUTOR FROM HELL.” Keep up the good work, and I hope that you feel better soon. Anonymous after Deeqa: I agree with you. I happen to enjoy Nuura’s posting too. What deeo needs to understand is that some of who have a long record on sins need some deeds. You see the more good things I read, I will serve less sentence (SP) in hell, and be able to join the villagers in heaven. You see women don’t look at the long term. That is why when they go to the mall they buy everything in site of their view. That is why they put lots of mirrors, to temp them like temptation island. Mr Cool: Mr Cool are you saying act like a Mercedes Benz when in reality I’m a Honda Civic? Aren’t they going to do a background check.? Aren’t girls going to consult with Cosmopolitan Magazine or sort of a book? I don’t know but I will tray. Just a Thought: What is up brother. What is the latest. Give the Somali news I’m kind of getting confused about these web sites. There si no journalistic integrity. At least them and I have something in common. Caraweelo how are you? Don’t tell me that you are working hard, and if you are, please don’t do that to me. I see I see I see now. You are afraid of the AX. Good move caraweelo. see you when things cool down. Just remember to come work early and leave late. Stay off the phone, off the ICQ thing, chat line, you get the drift. Bye to all Now Deeqo I did not prof read this posting, so there is no warranty on it. It’s like read it as is.
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| | Friday, February 09, 2001 - 10:35 am Alex, do you mean deeqa does not know this is kind of attitude about women is the reason more women are said to be in hell than men? For me, I don't come here to get rewards and I certainty come here to object for others to read what they want to read. As I said, anything goes here so why restrick people when they want to post or read things on here?
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| | Friday, February 09, 2001 - 12:41 pm Anonymous please don’t say anything goes here. Some people may take that the wrong way and get buck wild.. We need the freedom of expression kept alive. We need the freedom torch kept led. I understand that you said that you came here to object others, why not give some opinions sometimes. Have you ever thought of that? Please let us not start Deeqa’s engine, we might not be able to shot it down. ( unless she runs out of gas). My weekend movie pick. Hannable ( SP) ( deeqo I don’t have the time to go and look fort the correct title of the movie, so give me a break about the dam spelling thing. I was not good at the spelling BEE anyway). Thank you and I hope you fell better. I heard the movie is a gross one, so don’t eat dinner before the movie you might throw up. Have a wonderful weekend. Alex the last survivor.
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| | Friday, February 09, 2001 - 07:22 pm Alex, anything goes here. people can talk about qabiil, God, sex, relationship or dating, movies, school. let people get wild if they want to. I mean to say I don't come here to get rewards and I certainty do not come here to object for others to read what they want to read. So why restrick people when they want to post or read things on here? We don't come here to go to heaven or hell. let people enjoy reading what they want, but i didn't know what you meant when you said deeqa needs to understand some people have a long record on sins need some deeds and women don’t look at the long term. then, i asked you is that the reason more women are said to be going in hell than men. Will this question make deeqa engine start? We will see.
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| | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 07:28 am This is another case of misusing the religion to cover up some actions which are not compatible with normal interpersonal relationship. What amazes me is that misusing the religion either because of lack of knowledge or having hiden agendas is a prevelant situation within the somali community. A point in case is the local quranic teacher who with the support of other villagers resist an attempt to build a school for the local community with the pretext that it would encourage the christianisation of the locals and the children. As a result Somalia has quite a good number of schools which are vacant, some with the claim that the have been destroyed beyond use by the civil war and some because no one cares about "worldly" education. Alex, Man, there is one place I never will aspire to go to and that is USA. There is simply nothing of interest to me there. There is no natural bueaty, no religion, no culture, and there is money lying everywhere according to some highly reliable sources..lol. Any way I am allergic to that kind of money too. So I better take my holiday in a remote jungle somewhere in africa or attend one of those sweet Abgaal tradition dances, swim across one of the somali rivers like saddam usually does with the iraqi rivers, take a hike to the mountains in the north, go fishing around the "jazira" coast, trek with camels for a week around Galkacyo, and finally teach in one of the local's schools and attend some islamic classes myself. At the end of the holiday after having drank enough fresh milk (the freshest in the world), with all fatty acids burnt down, with all the europe's dirt washed off my skin, having benefited a few kidos and "me" self, then I will think about continuing my holiday for ever or coming back for a few more bucks. Somalia could become one of the most popular tourist attractions in the world. (Hope no one will accuse me of bringing "gaals" in the country). Alex what the we call jounalists in somalis and even the world at large is mostly a people who are trying to express their opinions. The only problems is that some exagerate or use any tactics to put their point across thereby getting a repulsive reaction from the audience. As it is with somalis it is free for all, no regulation, no moral etc. I am not saying there should be one but with time they will ware out.
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| | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 09:36 am Just though, when some people want and desire the "worldly" education more the religious education, that is what happens. ask yourself how many years did you spend on learning religion education and how many years did you spend on learning worldy education? As a result of your education, whenever someone posts islamic thing on here, you fall sleep. You said youself. "Just Asking do you know I fell a sleep reading all that staff? But still i didnt manage to finish and at the end of it i couldnt remember what it was about."
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| | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 11:37 am The person called """lol"""", I am laughing at how you could simply not understand what I wrote and trying to give it a whole new meaning. If you have a problem in understanding please ask for help. If indeed you understood what I wrote and had the intention and purpose to downgrade what I was talking about then it was a job poorly done. Lets take an example you claim about me, "whenever someone posts islamic thing on here, you fall sleep" and you proof with a quote I made to "Just asking", "Just Asking do you know I fell a sleep reading all that staff? But still i didnt manage to finish and at the end of it i couldnt remember what it was about." The question about your claim is, Is there anytime I said "whenever" someone posts Islamic i fall a sleep? How did you come to that conclusion that makes you claim that whenever which is the same as everytime someone posts Islamic things i sleep? The secondly you say, "Just though, when some people want and desire the "worldly" education more the religious education, that is what happens" the question is when did I or anyone in this forums say they desire the worldly education more than..(correct me if I am wrong that you meant the word "than" ) the Religious education. To make life easier for you, the issue I was discussing with "Just Asking" was NOT religion but the way he posted a whole page from another section of the forums. He/she would equally have received the same response had he/she posted a similarly topic covering any other topic. So please stop the irrelevancy. But if you want to discus religion by all means you are welcome. But I am not here to compare religion with any other subject or topic. Answer to your question about how long I have been in education which ever area it might be is something personnal to me and i dont see why I should divulge it to you lest you start doing some amature analysis.
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| | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 03:46 pm How is every one....?? Seems like I haven't missed alot...What's really up guys...?? Feels like the house is now eligible to take the term HAUNTED as a prefix....so many people missing.... Alex.....How are you ma brother...?I thank you and Deeqa,Mr cool,and everyone else for your efforts to keep this place going when me and the rest of the crew could'nt be there due to inconveniences but I think I'm ready to bounce back.... Deeqa...I hope you make it through that Flu,which is wandering around just every where...I'm quite sure this time you wouldn't mind some confort!! to make you feel better and all... Does anyone know how to play the game of Chess....? if so take a minute to visit this site http://flipside.com/games/board/chess Alex...I've forgotten,the NBA all star game is happening in arena near you....your cab must be ready to make some serious cash... Gotta go watch the XFL... Later...<
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| | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 04:22 pm Just thought, I'm glad I made you say "But if you want to discus religion by all means you are welcome." but would you fall sleep? LOL
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| | Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 04:39 am Religion and sleep seem to come together always. Maybe the reason for that is we all have knowledge of what is required from us and we want to hear new stuff or simply Sheydaan (I know I am making a spelling mistake so correct me)is here. This is net and people, is all good any topic except that after mentioning temptation island is kinda nasty bringing religion into this too. Anyhow please disregard my harmless little comment. Deeqa Still sick from that damn nasty nasty flu??? Hope you get better! You should come in down under… you can join me in the beach .. you know getting tanned! Oh yeah… you will hate to go darker I assume like most of the Somali Girls would. I am one different woman I guess. I am trying to get darker and yes it is getting there but damn! Still no near looking like a pure African. Alex I hear you are moments away from escorts services huhh ohh pardon me…not moments but dollars… hmmmm…is getting ugly. What is with you and your comparisons yourself to cars. Man you have bigger issues than I thought! So any plans for San Valentino(Valentine's day)? Or is it just another day? Carawelo What happened to you lady? Hope you are ok my dear.
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| | Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 05:06 am I did not fall sleep reading that article and it was not a mistake to be brought up religion. Maybe the somali girls feel ashamed or it made fall sleep reading a jewish girl in american who became a muslim talking about loving hijab and islam. People who experience sleep whenever religion is brought up will either have to stay away from here (that is if they don't want to get bored) or make sure that they drink strong coffee before they log on here or just say acuudubilaah before whenever they see words like ALLAH, MUHAMMAD, QURAN, SUNNAH which chases the shaydaan away. Still if this does not help you, don't make excuses and blame the shaydaan. It is you.
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| | Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 12:19 pm Good afternoon folks and happy Valentine for all the ladies. I hope each one of you has a box of Godiva Chocolate. Anonymous Deeqa’s engine is always on it’s just sometimes it’s in sleep mode but never and ever off. Let us just hope that one of these days she runs out of engine oil an all her metals melt Just a though: Brother There is every thing you can imagine here in the good old U.S. of A. Name it you will get it even the dance you mentioned. Brother I have missed the boat of printing money. I’m so mad at myself you could not believe it. All I need is a XEROX machine and plain white paper, BUM what do you know I’m my own Finance Minister, Commerce Minister, central bank Minister. Before you know I would have had more titles the SIYAD BARRE. Eat your hart out SIYAAD jalle Alex is here now. Bye for now bro. PS: I’m planing to open my own web side for propaganda and mine will be negative for everyone. It will be a tabloid heaven. Speaking of Tabloid. Mr Cool What is up with tom cruse and Nichol Kidman? What is going on? Since she is Australian maybe you could fill us in. I think he became more wearied into the religion he is in to and not banging her enough. That is when the ITALIANS say DIO DA IL PANE A CHI NON SA MASTICARE. Mr Cool how did you know that what prevented me going to an escort service is the dollar? Don’t worry soon I will start printing my own MULLA. Just waiting for a good deal on a good XEROX machine. Someone is going to hook up me soon. Naasir: What is up bro? How are things in Columbus Ohio? Things are Ok here in DC. We just had the NBA all star game. Man let me tell you I have never ever seen so many beautiful gorgeous sisters in my life. Man we had about 100K people in the city. You mention any kind of limo, it was here. More Limo then the world bank meetings. The beauty was man I saw so many fine sisters. I was amazed. No we did not make lots of money, how could we, it was taking us two hours to move two blocks, but I did not mind at all. I was just enjoying the scene. Cooler: I did not fall asleep at all. I’m “eyes wide open”. not shut. Once more happy valentine to all the ladies excluding the married once. You will get yours tonight from your husbands if you know what I mean. Good bye.
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| | Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 03:38 pm Good after-mid-night all Alex, It is more than just printing bro. My advice is get the groundwork done first. Start by bringing together some old and retired together and "clan elders" from all over the country. Create partnership across the spectrum of the somali society. Organise and bring together all types of "civic organisations" - 'women groups', 'business groups', 'religious groups' etc. Look for a country which has nothing to loose by having afew of their leaders lining their pockets. Ensure that you have the "governement" by the balls by ensuring and Seeing to it that it depends on you for its survival. Give it all the life all the publicity, all the security, pay its hotel bills, give and withdraw the security at a moments notice to remind the doubting minds of those that do not know the rules. Ensure that you are partners and act as if you are not. Should the heat be too hot be ready to take all the blame and pretend to be parting with some of the money to a responsible "government". Finally you will go out laughing all the way.
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| | Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 06:06 pm Alex, what about when there is a power outdage in the village or the engine crushes? Will talking about movies, school and dating make the engine up again running. i mean is religion some kind of a virus that makes people sleep (turn off)?
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| | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 11:46 am Good afternoon to all. Just a thought: Brother when you said bring together the old and the clan elders, I knew you and I did not see things the same way. Brother those are the once who mess up things. You should know better that nothing good comes out of somalis together. NINBA NINKA KALE SIDII UU LUGTA UGA GOYN LAHAA LO KA SHAQYENAYA. Adna waxaad leedahay maryoley isku keen ee wada tashta. Brother ma fiyowdahay maanta mise si baa wax kaa ah. Brother I’m going to fly sole on this operations. To Anonymous If there is a power outage then we will have to ration the electricity by doing like California. We will have a roving blackouts. Every night we will cut the electricity to one of the MUDULS. We can start with DEEQO, then CARAWEELO, then back to deeqo then back to CARAWEELO Then we they start complaining we can cut the electricity of XAALI WAXAAN DHAHEENA XAALIYAY XAAL QAADO EE WAA LA SOO DACWODAY. You know Xaali been kind of liberal, she will go for it. You know the night we cut the electricity of MR Just a thought that is when the civil war will start from the village. I will tray to do my best of not disturbing him other wise he will start a letter writing campaign to the U.N OAU EC Arab League Of course I can’t be without electricity because I have to write the power outage schedule. Can someone talk to these people who are printing the money and tell them that some people are been asked to Visit AL-BARAKAT more then they have to or ANIGANA WAA SOO HABAARAA. BYE
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| | Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 10:36 am Wuzzzuuupp!!!....watching a game,having a lemonade... Speaking of a game,who you think will be the potential NBA champ this year...?Philly ofcourse with their recent move of acquiring Mutombo.... Alex....I need you 2 let me know the schedule of upcomming Somali concerts comming to Ohio,I haven't been to one for the longest,years to be exact,and the reason why I'm returning to the dance floor is up in the air....don't know...
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| | Tuesday, February 27, 2001 - 12:10 pm seems ppl went to holiday here I will be back after taking an energizer. See you all Alex have a happy break Deeqa it seems the dating wind has blown you off your feet. What happened to you. I know Carawelo is in mood.
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| | Saturday, March 03, 2001 - 05:46 am What happend in here??? Ohhhh it is sooo very very cold!
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| | Monday, March 05, 2001 - 06:42 am Happy EID MUBARAK to all my friends here that I've known for years in this very page...It has been a quite a pleasure! Alex,Wabs,Mullah,Caafi,Deeqa,Xaali,Caraweelo,Muna,Mr.cool,Sagal,Ladan,SiHam,X and many more.... Very happy Eid Mubarak 2 you and your loved ones.. Before we meet again,waxaan idinkaga tagayaa hees uu qaado Maxamed Saleebaan Tubeec... http://24.115.89.96:8080/ramgen/muul/suugaan/msaleeban/04.smil Ismadhaafno....<
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| | Monday, March 05, 2001 - 08:49 am Ciid Mubaaaaaaaaraaaaaaak to y'all! Nasir, gosh, I have to wait until I get home to listen to the song, thanks though.
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| | Monday, March 05, 2001 - 12:52 pm Eid Mubarak and Happy new Year to all specially to Villagers, Alex, Wabs, Xaali, Deeqa, Nasir, Caafi,Carweelo, Mr Cool, Ladan, PaPa, Mr.Manager (Aaxoow), Mullah and many more. Walaal Eid Mubarak where ever you are guys
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| | Monday, March 05, 2001 - 03:05 pm Salaamu Calaykum Dhamaantiin CIID MUBAARAK!!! Xertii aan hore isu garaneynay iyo inta ku soo biirtayba waxaan idiin rajeenaya dhamaan khayr iyo sanadkaan sanadkiisa kale inuu noogu dhasho caafimaad qab, barwaaqo, bashbash iyo wanaag. Qof walba muraadkuu leeyahay oo khayrka ugu jiro inuu Rabbi u sahlo. Ilahay ha inoo wada dembi dhaafo. Aduunkana khayr aakhirana hoygii rasmiga ahaa jannada Ilahay haynooga dhigo. Peace
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 04:16 am Ciid Mubarak- to all and to all a happy new year! My dear villagers- may this year bring us guidance, happiness, health, success, wealth, and most importantly- peace.. hey- if we are to pray for stuff- we should include everything....right? :-)
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| | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 10:43 pm Hmmm people are yelling Ciid Wanagsan, let me be the loudest.. ccchhmmmm... ok open your ears please!!! here I go... Ciiiiiiiiiiiiiddddddddddddddddd Wanaaagsaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!! See that wasn't so bad after all. Happy Ciid to you all Villagers!!! Muna, Careweelo and the rest God to See You Again.
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| | Tuesday, March 20, 2001 - 11:55 am Ciid wanaagsan walalayaal waxa halkan idinku salamay Xaaji Alex. Iga rali ahaada hadii aan salaanta indinkala soo daahay. Kuligeen waa noo soo wada duceyay wadankina waan u soo duceeyay. Salamu Laah. PS: Haa caraweelo iyo deeqona waan u soo duceeyay. Ilahay ha aqbalo (I dought that he will go for it , but I took my best shot). Take care. Alex
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| | Wednesday, March 21, 2001 - 04:03 am Welcome back Alex Seems you got yourself religious girl to keep you under control. Is it Deeqa cause she is the only who seems to have gone undergorund have mentioning the start of her romantic life. Anyway have a nice time. I am out
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| | Wednesday, March 21, 2001 - 11:59 am Just a thought Borther waxba gacanta kuma hayo sidii aad ku ogeyd ayey u gamco marantahay, Deeqana iyo anago oo dhan Alah ha noo sahlo muraadkeena. War maxaa Cusub bal ii waran. Waxa aan ahayn Kooxda carta iyo Kooxda Ethiopia Labadaas warkooda iga daa Kuwaas waa waxay AY MAANAAY DHIHI JIRTAY “WAA LAGU QASAARAY”. Waxaan rajaynayaa in uu af Somaliga ku dhibahay. Meelo badan baan ka aqriyay dad ka cabanahaya af Somaliag. Hadii aan xisaabtana isku daray dalkii waxay dhibatada ka bilabatay 1991 waa 10 sana ka hor. Dadka cabanahayana waa 20 jiro iyo wax ka weyn. Marka waxaan is weydiiyay talow dadkakan ma af FRANSIIS bay wax ku baran jireen. War maxaa la kibray. Waxey soo wadaan iyo MOOL MOOL CALIYO YAA WEYN WAAYEY. Soo bari rabshadana ka daa deeqo U FUUTI.
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| | Wednesday, March 21, 2001 - 12:23 pm Hi All to distinguished Villagers Old & New Members. Alex Ma man how it goes with the Hunt for Bride in West Africa? Last time I believe you were auctioning off all your late model Cabs to come up with enough money for Dowry, penthouse in Skyline Condominium & Imported Italian Furniture, new wardrobe & trip to the Bahamas for a honeymoon....quite an imposing task but knowing your resilience, persistence and resourcefulness, I am sure it will be a cake walk......lol
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| | Thursday, March 22, 2001 - 02:09 am Good Morning Mullah and MR Just a thought it’s allways good to see you. I have changed my mind about West African bride, I have decided on Made in Somalia brand for political reason not that they appriciate me, but hey I’m doing a good services to the country that is the least I can do, and of course the most been a warloard. Brother about the Skyline, let me say this about two places Skyline and the starbucks They both Suck. Brother the ladies are terribly complaining about those places and men in Virginia in general, but I suspect most of the complaint is due to Omar yare and Aaxoow moving to Miniapolis minisota. Hey I have heard that aaxow and Omar got married Good for them bad for us. I bet you are asking why it is bad for us? As soon as they start having children the price of their services will go up due to additional expences, which will make even harder to get married for poor souls like me. Hey at least I’m better then those people who hold worthless stock options, like the lady senetor from washigton state. Mullah my only chance of making big was been in charge of the BUNGIGA DHEXE EE Somalia and now
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