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The Art Of Somali Women * Part 2 *

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Rahsaan

Sunday, March 18, 2001 - 02:35 am
Life is funny, ain't it?

Warning: If You are not capable of handling the TRUTH, do not read on.

First of all, lets recall some burning facts that has been dicussed previously about Somali women. Above all things in our society today, most of our women have been the most ungrateful beings, especially in the western world, and there could be an Encyclopedia of Excuses to prove their selfishness is acceptable.

A personal opinion, and I agree with them on this one. Its in their nature to follow foreigners life-style in all aspects, wether to give-up their language first, or dress like a call girl, then still feel they belong in a Somali society. So typical....

No need to interior decorate girls that been there and done that. We don't need experienced women, we want ladies... I don't care about what our women with western ideas think, and their criticism, but ain't no somali girl who corresponded herself be stepping in and contribute. Its countless, how many times we told them, "Don'T BE SILLY, COVER YOUR PU**Y". There are women, that followed or even didn't needed that demo, and keeping things real.

I just want to hear views, no demonstrations please.

Rahsaan

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kingmaker

Sunday, March 18, 2001 - 03:29 am
well said rah

one thing i am sure is that they paying heavy price for the mistakes the made ..they are growing old lonely .. not to mention they don't have respect from their family.

they are in stress and suicadal and they reach a point where they beg 50+ searloenes or ghanans to sleep with them and they cook and clean for them and more they even give them money.


so the mistakes they made cost thier life and reputation and dignity.


HEY ..GIRLS REPUTATION IS EVRYTHING .... NOT THE IMAGE ANYMORE

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Edil

Sunday, March 18, 2001 - 10:05 am
Rahsaan

You gotta be kiddin' me.

First of all I haven't seen part 1 of this discussion to know where you are coming from.
Second, I see ignorance when I see someone generalizing a whole group. There is no way on earth you can know what every Somali woman is like...just tell me where you got your statistics...and I'll be satisfied..

"their nature to follow strangers," if I'm not mistaken bro, that is the nature of all Somalis so please don't make it into a gender thing.....we all know Somalis are easily influenced..
..Later..

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T-GIRL

Sunday, March 18, 2001 - 10:50 am
Oh my God........Let me butt in for a second

Rahsaan.....
Is that a Somali name? Never heard of such a thing. Anywayz my comments to you brother is that it is in HUMAN NATURE to adapt with the environment, ok No matter where U R U R bound to learn their language, watch their TV, go to their markets,etc.....And U got the audacity to turn your lack of self esteem on to us. If U can't pull a somali woman....let me know by all means I will help U find her, but don't come in here -after U get dumped, and cry on our shoulders.

Furthermore ever heard of "While in Rome do as the Romans do"? And just out of curiousity, how come U typing in English huh? What cat got your Somali typing abilities?....

And if U wanna speak of Somali girl dressing like call girls........well presay they do........atleast we don't dress up like a pimp......with that Yellow suit, no shirt and a gorgorad looking green trousers.......Yuck don't remind me...I might have nightmares tonight.

Don't make me go there ---------------> Capishe

Peace

PS:- If U ain't a cheap critisiser, how come U never once mentioned how some of our male youth are all acting like Al Capone these dayz.......or how the Rap culture is embedded in them in such a manner that some of them refer to their Mom's "YO HOOYO"

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Woman

Sunday, March 18, 2001 - 11:32 am
T-GIRL YOU'RE HILARIOUS!
YOU SAID IT ALL AND THEN SOME
IT'S ABOUT TIME WE FIGHT BACK!!!!!

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Anonymous

Monday, March 19, 2001 - 03:54 pm
TGIRL WHY I HAVE THIS FEELING THAT U AND WOMEN ARE THE SAME PERSON.

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Kodiin

Tuesday, March 20, 2001 - 05:04 am
For the brothers complaining about Somali women, if u don't want or like them, move on to other nationalities. After all we are in the West and not in Somalia. The diversity is great and choices endless.

Kodiin.

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Rahsaan

Wednesday, March 21, 2001 - 01:10 pm
All talking V.I.P's here!, I like it.

T-girl is appealing, and brothers end up revealing. Let's not forget the issue here, sisters sold us out. No need to build them a friendly scenario.

Rahsaan

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Nina

Thursday, March 22, 2001 - 04:49 am
We all trying to keep things levelled. Rahsaan... do you feel me?

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Rahsaan

Sunday, April 08, 2001 - 01:37 am
Until Now!

Many of the Somali women's profile around the world is full of "Laugh now, cry later", which indicates, the ideal Somali girl is incapable of understanding her purpose of life, especially when it comes to MEN.

Generally, us Somali guys are little concened with the lack of attitude that our girls confront with Somali men, because we are very well positioned with in our society than our girls. But it discourages the growth style and self-respect with in our nation. And I clearly under-score here, that Somali girls are another piece of the bad-pie in Somalia's outside situation.

Although this sounds a political point, its another angle to see the problems that Somali girls cause, and the impact it has on our society.

Make an account on this issue, and see it yourself.

Rahsaan

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Guilty

Sunday, April 08, 2001 - 05:47 am
Lets be real here

Most somalis mens/womens are all kiss ass,strange

lovers and they all trying to fit in aight.


Do you think somalis are like indian or jews

people, who are happy with there culture and

religion.

Let me tell you this story i was attend college

in the U.S.A and young somalian girl was there.

So everyone had to introduce them self

so Cambaro said that she was somali origion "BUT"

never bean there lol.

She was from there cause i can tell the was she

speaks.

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sis.I

Sunday, April 08, 2001 - 09:51 am
If a girl,does something that's not right
by our religion,the hole community turns
their back on here,but if it is a boy not
one person is going to bother,the will just
say he is acting 'out'and other nonsense.
So the boy can come back to the community,but
the girl can't.

Why is that? Instead of helping the girl out,they just judge her.And who is gaining for this situation,let me tell you the guys,and then
everything is our fault.

So you guys can say all you want,but Allah created us equally,And Allah is going to
judge us all.(equally!)

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ninxoon

Sunday, April 08, 2001 - 10:19 am
sis 1

to answer you question , when the boy goes out and fuc_ks around at the end of the day he has not lost a thing, on the other hand the the girl would loss the most precious thing in her life that is her virginity that is in good day ,in a bad she might bring a bastard child to this life , and subsequently bringing the family name down to the sewers....so please stop watching too much T.V cause the damn thing has polluted what is left of your intelligence.

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sis.I

Sunday, April 08, 2001 - 10:42 am
Does that mean,the guy won't be judge for his
sins,don't forget that you have 2 face your creature ninxoon!So u can Fu*k around while your life on earth lasts!!

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ninxoon

Sunday, April 08, 2001 - 10:51 am
sis1
plse, stop twisting my word around. I have never said that the man won't be judged equally in fron of Allah(swt), you have asked me a simple q and I have giving you a simple answer , I didn't say or encourage men to sleep around!.....I hope you understand me....how old are you anways????

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Rahsaan

Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 05:38 am
We got HEAT here!

Ninxoon: The only man who feels me so far. Our girls cases are so clear, black and white. They usually contribute confusion to issues like this, rather than understand it, and they often over-hear the basics.

Sis1: You're generalising things, boys and girls are different in many ways. This is not an anatomy forums, as far as limitations go in our society, it's a well stablished YES/NO response to their actions. Like ninxoon mentioned, men can get away with things that won't effect their society more than women. In the long run, men can fulfil their targets in life within society, and his errors won't be intense as women with similar biography.

Lack of education in our often guides them to dispute, and those who consider themselves educated, they lack traditional knowledge. All round familiarity is an ideal solution for somali women.

Rahsaan

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1

Wednesday, April 11, 2001 - 12:33 pm
You guys got it figured right!
blame it on the women,who r you fooling?
Men have more then a fair share in it,so
stop your nonsences.And if you got something
against Somali women,well then that's your problem.

And that whole society thing,our society is supposed to be Muslim,so their hypocrisy
doesn't count.And i for one don't care about it.
I try to do right as a Muslim,and my body belongs
to me so what i do with it is my own business.

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J

Wednesday, April 11, 2001 - 01:06 pm
Wonderful is all I can say about this discussion thank you Rashaan for raising such a question..few nights ago me and 4 of my friends gathered in my place we watched a movie and later sat down,talked about so many issues...and then one of us raised the Somali-Womens issue,I swear as soon as he spitted out the words Somali-Women and criticism started falling from almost all of the Somali-Brothers!

One of them said he is been dating this Somali-Girl for about two long years ,she refused to kiss him let alone give him some meat,Then he decided to brake up with her when he saw that the relationship was going nowhere,according to him that very Girl begin dating an Afro-American guy he long suspected her of knowing.

Another was confused about their wants,their do's and don't do endless lists.

The eldest fella he was about 29 considering most of us are in our early twenties,said he have already giving up on Somali-Women altogether.


is this a common problem or is it a rare one?

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$omali$i$ta

Wednesday, April 11, 2001 - 01:36 pm
I was gonna pass by this topic but I couldn't leave without sayin my bit. 1st off T-GIRL said half of wat I was about 2 say so girlfriend u saved me a lotta time, THANX! :O
Sis.I...I swear I feel u so badly walaalo.
I've seen so many bloody topics on SomaliNet chattin about wat wh*res, sl*ts, h*es, etc Somali girls have become n I do agree 2 A CERTAIN EXTENT! Tru a lot of our girls have lost their ways[and sumthing else that u always talk about-their VIRGINITY] but WAT ABOUT THE MEN???? Im sick n tired of hearin the average b*llshit about "Oh girls n boys r different". Sure we're different in the eyes of our culture but wat is gonna take us 2 heaven....CULTURE OR RELIGION? C if u mans were tellin the sistas 2 stop actin the way they act because u genuinely cared about em n were conserned about their lack of deen, then fine BUT UR NOT!! I hate..lemme just clarify this....I HATE the brothas who go on preachin 2 the girls about bein "pure" but they r the biggest h*es in the world, YEAH MEN CAN B H*ES!! If u were a decent Muslim man then ur advice would b taken but wen ur worse than the girls wat on Earth gives u the rite 2 curse em? "Practice wat u preach" y dont u....then come back n talk!
ninxoon I saw a few of ur posting n I thought u were actually cool but now I c ur just anutha IGNORANT SOMALI MAN :(
Its pathetic the way everybody blames each otha, every1 is accountable 4 their own mistakes so pls dont try 2 put ur sh*t on sumbody else's shoulders! Its sad how our Somali girls have lost their ways n have gone astray but lets not 4get the brothas.....
U c em walkin the streets wit their White, Jamaican, Mixed-race, Asian, etc girlfriend holdin her hand n they get seen, actually he's even got his 2yr old baby wit him......BUT ITS ALRITE HE'S MALE
On the otha hand u c a Somali girl walkin about wit a non-Somali man, actually not even walkin just a conversation in the street[the guy could b a school friend, work colleague, etc]....SHE IS THE TALK OF THE COMMUNITY. How fair is that???
Who eva wants 2 curse me 4 bein such a strong minded person.....FEEL FREE....but im just sayin it LIKE IT IS.
Oh yeah Rahsaan lemme just ask u this, its about ur comment regardin "followin the foreigners life-style". Sum of us have NEVA been 2 Somalia, born outta Somalia n we've got our "dhaqan". I mean its the only thing u can have wen ur outside of ur country. So pls dont assume that we're all the same coz truely WE AINT!

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$omali$i$a

Wednesday, April 11, 2001 - 01:42 pm
J givin up on Somali women? Hang on is it me or did a male just write that???? Then wen u c Somali girls out wit their non-Somali boyfriends NOW U KNOW Y! U pushed em away mate!! If ur gonna give up due 2 a few failures then shame on u n ur friends, wat hope does the Somali race have if the brothas r just givin up like that n the sistas r runnin off wit all types of non-Somali trash? Come on u shouldn't give up, it just takes a while 2 find a queen. In the meanwhile u'll run in2 a lotta "unpleasant" types but dont let em put u off.

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Anonymous

Saturday, April 14, 2001 - 10:41 am
How yO'LL DOING, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT MY OPINION IN HERE, I AM 22 YEARS OLD MAN, WHO IS IS USA FOR LAST SEVEN YEARS, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE GIVE HARD TIME THE LADIES THAT WANT TO GO OUT DO THEIR THING WITH OTHER NATIONALITIES GUYS, I THINK WE SHALL ALL HELP THE LADIES WHAT THEY WANT. I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH SOMALI WOMEN, THE TIMES I TRIED WAS UNSUCCESSFUL SO PLEASE LET THE LADIES HAVE FUN WHO THEY ENJOY THE MOST
MALIK

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