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Anonymous

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Hello everyone. I am a 27 year old successful and intelligent Black man who is in love with a beautiful Somalian woman. She is my love, my best friend, and she has made me so happy. Love and Happiness are wonderful things when they find you. It wasn't easy for her at first and I will always respect her feelings because her happiness is very important to me. We did not know that we would fall in love with each other when we met but we did and we have been so happy together. Her telling me how much she loves me is a Gift from GOD. I was wondering "how do other Native Somalian people feel about being with or marrying outside their race or culture?" Once again, I just wanted to share my joy I have received from my lady. I hope that others can find that same type of joy from the one they love. I hope this doesn't have a negative impact on anyone because that was not my intention at all. Thanks for your response!

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Diehard

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Hallo, what's up man! nice to see you and welcome here, actually bro if you dont mind can you tell us what relegion you believe,because some of us are just kinda curious , we highly appreciate if you tell us that before we contribute our 2 cents!
peace and take care

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Mullah

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Anonymous:

First glad for you guys, but let's get couple of things out of the way.

1. Are you boy/Girlfriend or
2. Is it your intention to marry?
3. What kind of religion do beleive in?

Sorry for my questions, but the reason I am asking is that, every society has their rules & regulations. For Somalis being of Muslim faith, we don't beleive in Boy/Girlfirend relations as in the West, yes I believe talking & friendship in general is allowed (if you call that relationship), But the traditional relationship as in the West is prohibited unless offcourse you are married.

Traditional muslim has a slight similarities with Nation Of Islam but not quite in terms of non-married female/male relationship ..you might start there to understand a little bit, then move on to the Traditional muslim quidelines.

As for what Somalis think of marrying outside their culture, as any society apprehensive of losing their ways, it not only frowned upon but discouraged unless offcourse one coverts to the Muslim faith. We are no different from other races that guard their culture very closely, and are suspicious of other races...just like Koreans, Jewish, yes even African Americans.

Hope I have shed some light on your inquires.

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FFD

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WAAR WAA LAYDIIN YAQAAN WAA SOOMMALI XUN OO ISYEEL
YEELAYA
GABADHA SOOMALIYEED EE KUWAAN OGHAAY QADHMUUNKOODA YEELAHAYSAA MAXAYTAHAY?

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Anonymous

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Hello to those that responded. I understand where you are coming from and I will answer all of your questions. I have been a Faithful Christian since I can remember. Even as a little boy I chose to attend Sunday school and I have been affiliated with the Baptist faith since then. Do I have future plans of marrying this woman? Yes I do. We have learned so much from each other and at first her family did not want her to be with anyone outside of their race or culture and you already know why. I even told her that I agree that one's family love was something I could not bare to interfere with and if any decision she made I would understand........and man, I wanted to be with her, but I knew my heart might get broken. What happened? Well, we talked continuously on the phone about everything and anything and fell more deeply in love. She even wrote a poem to me about when we first met. Her older sister new she liked me the second time we met because she was there too and she pulled me to the side and said that she never let's anyone talk to her sister with interest but because she had met me before she thought I was an okay guy even though I am not Somalian. This has been almost 2 years ago and through everything we have been so happy. Her family has even let her talk to me and they are even very nice to me........her parents were never mean to me but you already know that they were not happy at first. She even asked me how would I feel about marrying someone if I had to convert to the Muslim faith and I looked into her eyes and told her I would everyday and that she is the one I want to marry. She told me she was nervous when she asked me and cried when I told her that. Once again, we are very happy together and I love her very much. I hope this was detailed enough but if not just let me know. Thanks again for your responses and promptness.

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realsomaliman

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TO SHADIYA ,SHADIYA IYO TA SIIRALANKUGU UMUSLIMAYO

WAXAAN KULAHAA AKHRI WAXA WEEYE SHEEKADAN KADHACDAY
STOCKHOLM SWEDE

By FAYSAL on Tuesday, November 16, 1999 - 01:19 pm:

SALAAMU CALAYKUM

5 DAQIIQO WALAAL WAQTIGAAGA QAALIGA AH IN IGA SII DHAMAYSTIR OO AKHRI QORAALKAN


WAQTIGU WAA BILOW GII SAGAASHAMEEYADII MARYAN IYADOO MARKAA GABADH NOQOTAY
SOO KACDAY AYEY LASOO QAXDAY QOS AY QARAABO
AHAYEN WAXAY REER KII YIMAADEEN ''''SWEDEN''
WAXAA LAGU QORAY OO GURI LAGA SIIYEY TUULO IYADA IYO REER KII ABTIGEED
WAXAASIDAA AHATABA WAXAY WAAYU HU ISRIIXAAN MARYAN
WAXAY GAADHAN XILIGII MIDHAHA GUUDKEEDA SAARAN LAGURANLAA WAA BISLAATAY
WAXAY DAREENTAY OO TEBTAY INUU JIRO WAX ALLE
QOFKA KU ABUURAY RAG HA AHAADO AMA DUMARE

Dareen kii waa kusii waynaaday meeshu waa cidla wilal soomaliyeed kama dhawa dhawr ayaa
jooga aan odhanayn maxaad haysaa qurux alle waa
udhameeyey

Waxa damcay wiil dhalinyaro ah oo SWEDISH ah kaasoo ka hadhi waayey markay dhawr jeer
caydhisay
wuu u adkaystay dhibkii iyo caydhinteedi waa nin cadaana wuxuu umuujiyey jacayl aan weli
wiil soomaliyeed gabadh walaashiisa umuujin

maryan Gabadh wayn ayey noqotay wuxuu kusoo noqnoqdaba wiilkii cadaa maalintii dambe
ayey way usoo dabacday waxayna ku xujeesay inuu
MUSLIMO
waa waraabe layidhi hilib macuni ma intaa keliyaad maryaneey weligaa iidiidaysay waxay kamid
ahaayeen hadaladii wiilku kujawaabay
Dahab iyo dheemanba waa usoo dhigay korkeeda waa kudhameeyey WAXA UU USHEEGAY
INAY diinta muslimka aha aytahay taxaqa ah diinkalena
aanay jirin wuxuu kadhaadhiciyey inuu ku qancay diintiisa cusub
MARYAN waxay tiri itaaban maysid ilaa aad BALAGTA AMA BUURYADA ISKA soo jartid wayka
jartay wuu bogsaday


ANDERS LINGAXA AYUU KAGOOSTAY WUXUUNA GURTAY
MIDHIHIII kugaaxsanaa guudkeeda iyo gudeheedaba
ANDERS raaxo aanu weligii arag ayuu dareemay
maryan waxay marka laguursaday cimrigeedu ahaa 25 muxuu nimco iyo xisaab bislaatay ugu
tegay maxaa wiilsoomaliyeed oo ubaahan nimcada alle
dulsaaray
MARYAN aan lagu hagaajin
ANDERS waa kala dhacay markuu KA FULAY oo sifiican uga dhergay wuxuu mudada 3 sano
kudhow baryayey
OO uu dhib umaray ayaa wuxuu kusoonoqday dabbiici

WAXAA is horkeenay diintiisi uu sida fudud uga tegay iyo wuxuu qalad ka uu sameeyey u arkay

wuxuu hoos u eegay GUDIHIISI mise qaarbaa maqan
caqli gal ayay la ahaan wayday
KHAMRIGII iyo balwadihii uu mudada 5 BILOOD ee uu qabay MARYAN ayuu kusoo noqday wixii
si hore ayuu
halkii kawalaaqday salaadii ayuu kategay waamaxay dadkan 24 hours foor foorar sanayaa WAA
WAXAAN muslinimo lagu dhalin laad iyo feedh ayuu
kala daalay maryan iyo cay murugo iyo dhibi waxay dulfuushay maryan

MARYAN waxa caloosheeda kubeermay ILMO isna waa kategay lixbilood markuu qabay DHIB
IYO WELWEL WUXUU KU URUURAY MARYAN
MASKAXDEEDI DHAQAAALA DARO
MAHAYSAN LAAKIIN MASKAX AHAAN AYAA DHIBAATO usoo gaadhan

waxay sidaba waa dhashay waa WIIL cadaa IN IYADA FARLOODARAY maba moodid WAA
AABIHII oo halkaa taagan

MARYAN INTAANU GUURSAN ANDERS waxay ahayd Soomaliyad dhaqanka iyo diintaba
kuwanaagsan
hase wax ku soobooqda dhakhtarkii oo soomaliya ma helin dad Reerkii abtigeed ayaa u xigay
isaguna ma soo booqan saxiibadeed SAHRA yar waxay
ku kala dhinteen naa hooy ninkaaa cad kajoog
hase ahaatee waxaa mara maryan maskaxdeeda kabixiwaayey oo ay isaga dhego martay
waxaasoo dhan waxaay ahayd mudada faraha badan ee
anders uu raajicinayey iyo hadyadihii iyo alaabadii qaaliga ahayd ee uu ukeeni jiray markuu
danta kalahaa

WAXAY ULA BAXDAY WIILKEEDI MUSTAFE waa kabogsatay umulnimadii

DHIBI maxay kadhacday maryan waxba magalabsan dadkii SOOMALIDA AHAA ee magaalada
ladeganaa ee aadka ujeclaa oo dhan ayaa wax salaama
laga wayey INTAY SALAAN USOO TAAGTEY EE KADHAQAAQAY TIRO MALEH
MARYAN HADAAD IMINKA ARAGTID WAAD GARANAY SAA IN QOF QURUX UDHASHAY MARKII
HORE AY AHAYD HASE AHAATEE WAA BAABADAY SANAD
GUDIHII WIXII NIMCIYO SHACNI DUSHEEDA KAMUUQANJIRAY

MARYAN MARKAAD ARAGTO WAAD GARANAYSAA INAANAY MASKAX AHAAN QOF DHAN AHAYN

ANIGOO AH '''FAYSAL'''' WAXAAN AHAY QOFKA TIRABA UGU YARAAN 350 QOF OO SOOMALIDA
AH EE DEGAN MAGAALADAN KALA SHEEKAYSTA
DHOWR JEERA WAA ISKU DAYEY INAAN CAAWIYO INTII AWOODAYDA AMA TAMARTAYA WAA
CAAWIYA INAAN BULSHADEEDI KUSOO CELIYO


MAARKAA MARYAN GAAL HAGUURSADO OO HA KATAGO LAAKIIN SUAASHU WAXAY TAHAY ?

MARYAN MIYAA KHALDAN ?
MALA HAYAA ADUUNKA QOF WAXAASOO KALE KUDHECEEN?
MAXAA LOO CUNSURIYEEYNAYAA MARYAN ?
MAWAXAA LAGU NACAY WIILKEEDA YAR EE MUSTAFE?


WAXAA KAMIDA HADALADEEDI AADKA CALOOLXUMADA IIGU ABUURAY

HABEEN WALBA WAXAAN IS IRAAHDA DABAQA USAREEYA ISKA TUUR ADIGA IYO
INANKAAGAYAR HADANA WAXAY TIRI WAXAAN XASUUSTAA
AAKHIRO

WAXAAN IS IRAAHDAAA AYAY TIR CUNUGA DILL!!!! SI AAD BULSHADAADI DIB UGU NOQOTID
HADANA WAY ILA AHAAN WAYDAA

GAAL IYO MUSLIM WAX SALAAMAA MAJIRAAN MARYAN
MARKAA SOOOMALIYEEY SIDEE UCAAWIN KARAA MARYAN???


BAL IDINA

WAA FAYSAL OO ARINKAA KASOO WERIYEY AMA TEBIYEY
QOFKII MARYAN AHAYD EE DHIBKU KUDHACAY


SALAAMU CALAYKUM

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stillrealsomaliman

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mr Annon, let that be a homework for you, why dont tell your friend to translate for you, it may enlightining for her
peace and milk

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Anonymous

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Unfortunately, I am at work now and will be here for a good while so I will ask her to translate it when she has time. Right now, she is finishing up her semester finals and working part time so it may be a week or two but if that's too long to wait for a response please translate it for me because if there are any questions then I would like to be able to respond promptly. I told her I was a little nervous when I brought this up on line but I just wanted to hear and share some insights about us when I visited this site. Thanks again. Mr. annon

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diehard

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anno, i wish i could, but i can translate you all this article, but its really a touching story if its real, and this led me to ask this following questions>

Are you still a faithful christian? because you only said quote "She even asked me how would
I feel about marrying someone if I had to convert to the Muslim faith" unquote; and then the reply you gave was " I looked into her
eyes and told her I would everyday and that she is the one I want to marry." unquote

1- brother from your point you still didn't tell us whether you converted to islam or you're still Baptist?
2- Do you want to change your faith just only to get this lady or its something real and you wont regret later, because islam unlike christianity their is conditions you must fulfill before you convert;
peace
diehard

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shaper

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everyone has right to choose who they will marry and that is personal decision ,it is up to her or to him although most of intermarriage between somalis and foreigns does not last for some reason.

so if you are feeling that you are making the right decision to marry non-somali go ahead and if u are in two minds about it don't do it

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WF

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DHILOOYIN WAA LAHAYN MARKII DHULKEENI LAJOOGAY WAANA BUUXEEN MEEL BUURKOROOLE LAYIRAAHDO

MARKAA WAA KUWII IYO WAXAY DHALEEN WAXA JAREERTA
GAALADA AH RAACAYA

WILALOW HAW MASAYRINA TAA WAA NOOCII BUURKA KUDHASHAY

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Caraweelo

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One question for anonymous;
Why do you bring this issue to Somalinet. DO you need our "blessings"?
If you are really dating a Somali woman, you must know all the inside info.
I am sorry to say that I don't you are for real. Your choice of words- "looked deep into her eyes", "love her dearly"- etc sound too flowery- too much like a woman.
Or are you someone who is researching the issue? To learn about Somalis and their hidden prejudices...Just wondering.

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Anonymous

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Hello everyone. Once again I am new at this so maybe I got caught up in the moment a little too much with my choice of words but yes.....everything about us is real and no, I am not a woman. I have learned a great deal about your culture and religion from her and I am still learnng. One day I was looking up some info for myself about her native city Mogadishu, and bumped into this site and just thought it would be interesting and informative to talk about it. Of course I would love positive feedback but I would rather have the truth about how you may feel on the topic, but I don't feel the need for anyone's blessings. I did think from reading some of the other topics that alot of Somalian people would discuss their feelings about "interacial" couples involving Somalian people. It always seems to be an interesting topic with all types of cultures and races. Have I converted to the Muslim faith? No, I have not. That is something she and I have discussed in recent months. It's not just about having this lady, that is selfish and wrong of me if that were so. But you do have a valid point about me being a faithful Christian and all of a sudden making a life changing decision. There are alot of differences between the two religions. I had alot of friends that had converted to the Muslim faith when I attended college and I went to a few seminars on Muslim topics then so I have some understanding of what it would be like, especially from spending alot of time with my lady. I am a little embarassed now for some of the quotes I used. It was a little too "dramatic" for this but it's just my honest feeling. We talked also about the fact of the criticism we will encounter from time to time especially from her culture but we are in this together. My family just simply adores her and only cares that we are both happy. Growing up as a black american I have seen so much racism and hate but it was always worse to me when it was black on black because you can almost always expect that from a white community or person to be that way but not from your own which makes it more painful to deal with. You have probably also heard the phrase that alot of blacks in this country are known as being like "crabs in a bucket." In other words, when we see each other happy or trying to do something good (climb out of a bucket) we just constantly pull each other back down like a bucket of live crabs will do. I try to always remain optimistic about achieving goals and realizing that no one can stop anyone but themselves. Excuses are tools of incompotence. For example, my career as a computer instructor for a major airline corporation is something I worked extremely hard for and alot of people tried to discourage me by saying it's who you know and not what you know and what you can do but I persevered and got the position I wanted. Now I am in a position to help other's like me to move up too which I've always felt our people needed in america's corporate enviroment. I thought about the fact of joining the Muslim faith as being something positive for me and nothing less but our plans of course will take time like everything. We both want the same thing and that's to be together but we are taking everyday one at a time. We have already overcome alot since we first met and there's more to come as we and you already know. I hope this was more informative and less "flowery"(lol) this time around. I will keep in touch but my schedule will change in a few days so if it takes a little longer for me to respond, please don't think I am ignoring you all. Thanks again for responding and hope to hear from you soon. - Oh yeah, I told her about her message so maybe she'll even get a chance to respond to you all after she gets to read it. Mr. annon

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Princess

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Anonymous, what do you want? Validation from the Somali nation? Bro, ask your woman about the nature and mentality of the Somalis. The fact that you did not convert is a BIG DEAL. In the eyes of the majority she is fornicating with an infidel, an illicit affair indeed.

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realsomaliman

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to whom it may concern,

there is nothing called muslim or non-muslim its the nationality what counts in this world.
come on lets be realistic, i do have muslim friends from many country and girl from there
nationality which moves with other nationality is sh%t front of there eyes. so its the nationality
which plays great role. religion is not factor which which effects when marrying. look the
arabs there are millions of muslims(jareers as we call it) living with them, they will never marry
then how on this earth can they tell other muslims to go for only muslims. on the other hand,
the somalis are worst compare to other muslim nations, we dont even marry our so called
"midgan & boon" sisters and brothers. why? i really dont know it. so my dear samiira go for
somali man. the answer is clear.and remember decent foriegner man wont go other nationality
what is the point? if i am educated succesfull in life, come on i would want to enjoy with
somali woman...they are beautifull, intellegent....etc....why be with foreigner. i beleive what
other good foreigner men believe.....we play with other women and brake there hearts even if
they are serious and marry and enjoy within my nationality. i am saying this cause so many
foreigner had somali women...they just fucked and throw them later no matter what her
feelings to him are, so they too should pay that price. to tell you the truth i broke the hearts
of more than 50 foreigner women. and enjoy it, cause these women see me as successful guy
and my position in life so i use my name and the position i am holding to gain what i want. yes
i am "daneeste" when it comes to these •••• foreigners muslims or non-muslims.
i am just giving you an advice.
to boys:
remember other men around the world had treated our sisters very bad...fucking and later
throwing them away....come on dont tell me they wanted it......they are women and women
are easily cheated no matter what nationality besides some of our sisters lack the education
to judge. although i am throwing away PHD foreigners out of life often. so we must retaliate
for our women..look in kenya, yemen, america, canada, europe and etc...they have been
treated very bad by foreigner. guys remember never dissapoint somali women never in life
please unless she is like the one who said she has white boyfriend .....remember you girl he'll
play you good and throw you away and when you reach me expect the same or worst. guys i
am real somali.

to girls:
remember if you are succesful in life that doesnt meant you should follow a foreigner even if
he is the president of US. they should all •••• off. remember you are somali and nothing more.
dont just look back our country and make conclusions that our men are bad. well over 40 they
are i agree since they are the ones who caused all this bulsh%t in our country. but still they
are some very succesful men out there. we all know those somalis who made decent life are
the best. so follow your mothers footsteps. i realy liked those who said only somali men. may
god help you in life.

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Anonymous

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Well, your points were heard and appreciated. Sorry to disappoint and offend the ones who were but I have always known you can't please everybody. It was interesting for me though but since it's displeasing (our relationship) to most Somali I won't discuss the issue anymore. Like I had stated early, we know we will be criticized by alot of people (mostly Somali) but only GOD can judge me, not a man or a woman. Peace to all and May GOD Bless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mr. annon

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QQ

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thank you realsomalian man

waa kusuubisay markaasaaxiibow sharmuutooyin iyodhilooyinba buurkoroole waa kabuuxen kuuwii iyo waxay dhaleen weeye waxa raacaya JAREERTA IYO GAALADA ISAGA DULQAADO SOMALI SAXA INAY YIHIINA HOW MALAYNIN

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Anonymous

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Anonynoumous if you still there i want to answer honestly your question on your first post which was
"how do other Native Somalian people feel about being with or marrying outside
their race or culture?" before i answer can clarify what you mean in your on dec 1 4:08 AM at the end of third last lane, quote"we are very hapy together" unquote, what do you mean by the sentence does it mean you already move together and share the same bed,please if you aswer me that question i will give my honest and simple answer which most somali people believe,
thanks

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Anonymous

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To Anonymous. No, we don't live together and no we don't share a bed either. I understand your concern though. I'd probably be that way or worse if I had a sister. When I said that, I simply meant just the love(relationship) we are building on. I would not disrespect her or her religion. She means too much to me. I never said it has been easy. You can imagine what she has been through. At first of course I was shocked because I never tried to date a woman from Somalia before and I didn't even know anything at all about the culture or religion until she and I met and became friends. Once again, we were friends for a long while and we became very close and in time we wanted to see each other more often. I can't help who I am or where I was born but I am the Man she wants and deserves. If I wasn't she would've let me know that before and I would'nt be talking to you now. I think I know now what I will mostly hear on how many Somali people feel but I will not stop being with her because other people aren't happy. She and I will come to that decision and I can tell you that I don't see that happening. Why can't 2 people just be happy together? We have both wondered since we met. This may or may not answer your question(s) but I hope I did. Thanks for you response and peace and happiness to all.........mr. annon

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Caraweelo

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to mr. annon;
Hell! If you really love her as much as you say you do, marry the woman!
Convert*-VERY IMPORTANT- and make an honest woman out of her!
She probably will not find a man who loves her more or would respect her as much.

* If you believe in one CREATOR and the Quran as our Creator's word- you are HOME!!! Have you studied the Quran? Start there. Remember it is not that different from what you know. Just focus on the Almighty- the one and only Creator of everything- and you will succeed!

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Anonymous

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To Caraweelo. Thanks for the insight. At first I didn't think I needed any support but you sure did make me feel a little better. She and I talk all the time about being together (marrying) and like you said, "CONVERTING" is a big but positive issue and I am reading up on The Muslim faith for myself as well as for us. I had no idea who I was getting involved with when I met this woman but I don't regret anything and would'nt change anything. Thanks again and Peace, mr. annon

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peaceGirl

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realsomaliman bravo
what u have said above....realy touched my heart

i wish there are more men like u outthere!!

to mr.anonymouns
i have one advise for u....better be safe than sorry!!

luv u all

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diehard

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annno,
why dont you tell her to convert instead , as you have said before that you,re a faithful christian and yet a succesful man then why dont you praise the lord jesus christ, who sucrifice his only son so you be can be saved by his blood ,you tell us you were talking to this women for 2 years and yet you were christian, do you know that the moment she allows you in her life she automatically disqualified to be muslim, and now since she remains pagan why dont she seek faith in name of the cross
man did they not tell you in sunday school muslims are terorist and violence loving people , hey man do you want to loose your airline job ,do you know how sensitive they are to muslims in your field!
anyway right now the muslim faith is not accepting any application for new converties and the waiting period is between 15 to 20 years so better tell her to convert or join the waiting list

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Anonymous

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To Diehard. Good point and it seems as if we known each other too. This is something else that we have talked about as well when the subject came up. I have never asked her to do as you suggested but the thought is there and that would be her choice to become a Christian. She knows I would support her choice whatever it is. I did not bring this up earlier because I felt it may be disrespecting to her and many Somali would be offended and that is not my intention at all so I just discussed the possibility of me converting to the Muslim faith only. It looks as if she will convert to Christianity though because she is focused on us being "happy" together and she has no negative feelings about becoming a Christian. I apologize if you feel I should have brought this up to the forums earlier but I was just trying to keep peace and I didn't think that was a good idea at the time. You know, I even asked her one time when we first started to see each other if she regret ever meeting me because of everything that she would have to deal with and she told me "not at all." She knows what & who she wants and she is very strong and those are some of the many reasons why I love her so much. My family adores her and she is already considered family. Right now, graduating from college in the spring is the main priority for her. Our plans for marriage will happen after that and we are both excited! So your suggestion was already thought of a long time ago and is probably going to happen. Peace to all!!!!!!!!!!!! mr. annon.

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HONEY

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First of all, hi to all of you....to anonymous, if the story that you are telling us is as peachy as it sounds, brotha power to you, i wish you and and your somali lady all the best in life....MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR LADY, i am very proud that somali sista choose a BLACK MAN instead of OTHER RACE....i have story of mine to share with you, i came to the u.s when i was very young
i use to live tucson, Az there weren't somali guys living there at that time, so i dated african american guy....i had no intention of getting married at that time, not because he was afric-amer, but because i was young and i needed to finish school....The few somalis who lived in town used to talk, but i didn't care of what they said ....People have always something to say. We dated for 3 years and then i moved to toronto....So the long distance put it restrain in our relationship. He was one of the nicest person that i ever meet...We still keep in touch.
To those who wrote that "he should convert and marry his somalian girlfriend to make her an honest woman out of her"....FOR YOUR INFORMATION PEOPLE, PPLE DON'T JUST CONVERT THEIRS RELIGION OVERNIGHT , HE MUST LOVE HIS FAITH THE SAME WAY WE SOMALI LOVE OUR RELIGION, I THINK WE SHOULD RESPECT OTHER RELIGION....THE PART WHERE ONE OF YOU MENTION ABOUT MAKING THE GIRL AN HONEST WOMAN OUT OF HER........WHERE THE HELL YOU GUYS GOT THAT B.S FROM!!!! COME ON PPLE STOP THE HYPOCRACY, IF SOMALI GUY GO OUT WITH A GIRL IT IS FINE, BECAUSE SHE IS KEEPING IN THE FAMILY....AND IF AN OUTSIDER GOES OUT WITH SOMALIAN GIRL HE SHOULD MARRY HER IF HE REALLY WANTS HER....ANONYMOUS BRO, ENJOY LIFE, DON'T LISTEN THESE MISERABLE PPLE...GOOD LUCK

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Anonymous

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To Honey. Thanks for your response and encouragement! GOD Bless and Peace! mr. annon.

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somaliMan

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DAmnnnnn....

Mannnnnnnnn!!!..Anon!!!.

Cut the crab, man

Carawello and Princess have told you already.

What do u want us to say?..you got the lady, aight?..then ask her everything about somali nation and culture when you are in bed with her...and move on.
Good luck, yo. No neeeed to put a whole book up in hea. Save that typing to write your freaking love story and publish it. You might gonna need that money to show your love some appreciation..HINT!!!.."a belt made of pure gold" won't kill your accounting books...that's the way it is ,man

peace now

signed by a real somalian whose girlfriend is real somalian

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Anonymous

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somalian man, if I choose to say something I simply will. If you don't like it then that's your problem. Deal with your problem.Don't cry about it on the Somalia Net. (Somalian Man?) If you simply can't handle it then just don't read it! Sorry to speak to you as if your are a child but your response showed your maturity level. She and I both read your comments and we did get a good laugh though,sothanks. Peace out to all on the Somalia net who responded. I'll be signing out for good. GOD Bless!!!!!!!!!! mr. annon.

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AnotherSomaliman

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Apologies to Mr annon:

Don't let Somaliman infect you with his decease (he is a racist!) He is a simple nitwit (he thinks his 'brother' owns Somalinet) and a hopeless idler, who doesn't know right and wrong! Ignore him.

Meanwhile, I am touched by your story. Go on man, have your girl and let her be consumed by bliss....

Wish you 'wiil iyo caano' the best of life!

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Xiis

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Hello Anonymous,
A woman belonges to the people of her man. Any African will tell you that. What you should be concerned with is how to make your people accept your woman. If I were you I would tell the girl to convert to my religion and learn the ways of my people. 'The man is the womans head' - that is what your bible says. So you should stop all this.. we have discussed, people will think blah blah... and make the woman yours! You are her present and future. Somaliness is history. Good luck man.

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Enough intelligent

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To: Anonymous,
dear Anon,
this issue is really big issue.Therefore, were are not thinking about both of your personal choices you are playing around. At this point, you can have your hobbies wheather they are marriage or some other personal interests,so things you are talking about do not have any relation with religion,and that is why you are flying in a flat space with out a parachute!!!
On the other hand, I would briefly state some thing of if this woman is saying that she beleaves,not she is or she will be,the way the Slamic community beleaves, please let me talk to her; otherwise,stir your cement to build your house both of you and your families.

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Anonymous

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u r jareer so keep away from our ladies they r for somalis and only somalis, why dont u follow your niggers, we r different and very racist people so leave our girl alone.

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NEXT

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THIS GOES OUT TO ALL THE SOMALI GUYS ;You know why us SOMALI girls go for SEXY american men?it's because they know how to treat a SOMALI girls right and they have not got the BIG MOUTH that you GUYS have i.e the SOMALI GUYS never stop dissing a girl after going out with her nor do you ever keep the things we say durring the DATES.

You SOMALI guys need to SHAPE up or the AMERICAN guys will SHIFT you lots from US SOMALI girls.

From my opinion i have searched for SOMALI guy who can satisfy ALL my NEEDS ,but you SOMALI guy will never learn how to,so that's why we couldn't refuse from A SMOOTH BLACK BROTHER that know how to will fufill are NEEDS

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Samawade

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To next

good luck to u sis and when they diss u don't come back to us please. we need a clean girls not dobepushers.

To annon.
If u like each other then keep it bro and stop asking us our culture she will tell u.

I got nothing agains u but to remind u bro(annon), a religion is not some thing u could puy from a shop or any thing like it bro. So don't change your religion cuz u like the girl(Think what u gone do when the interesting part is over are u gone go back to your root bro).

Let's forget the religion thing for a minute and consider the culture barrier. How is she gone get alone to your parents and friends.

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ILAAHOOW HA II GEYN MID TUUTE QABTOO SUBIXII IGA SOO HOR KACDA OO I TIRAAHDO YOW IYO WIXII LA MIDA. MAA ANOO U JEEDA JAWHARA AYAAN SIISTAA HUTU PPL AMA GAAL SO COLLED EUROPIAN AMA MID AFKEEDUBA U RAAYA SIDAY BASAL ISUGU WADAY. SOMALI MEN TRUST ME THIS IS FROM EXPERIENCE GOOD THING COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT PATIENLY. A BEAUTIFUL SOMALI GAIRL IS WITH IN YOUR REACH, THE SAME GOES FOR SOMALI WOMEN WHO ARE AFTER MATERIAL.


THAT IS MY TWO CENTS AND DHURURUQ

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4reak

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You know what if you guys are serious about one another that is cool and more power to y'all.
As for me I do go out with African American guys...just dates and I don't have any intention of marrying them or having their babies. The reason why is because where I'm at there aint whole lot of Somalian guys...and the one's that are there are either married or just kids.

I'll never ever convert for nobody not even my own mother let along some guy even if he's Somali.

But strictly dating non-somali guys for fun is allright with me

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NIGGAS KILLER

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TO THE NIGGA HOW IS MARIED TO A SOMALIAN LOST MINDED GIRL COULD U PLS SHUT THE •••• UP AND GET THE FACK OUT OF OUR NET I KNOW SHE SHOWED THE ADDRESS TO
LISTEN U R A NIGGA THAT USE TO BE A SLAVE TO A WHITE MAN
AND WE ARE MUSLIM SOMALI AND WE NEVER USE TO BE A SLAVE TO ANYBODY AND WE WILL NEVER SO TACK THE BITCH U FIND IN TRASH AND •••• OFF
U HEAR ME NIGGA

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Salugla

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Niggas Killer

Your full of •••• man..."your use to be slave to the white man" you skinny ass was slaved to the white men 2 dump ass....what the •••• happend to the Italian and the British that slaved the old Somalian generation ...get you •••• check...what the •••• are you Arabic callling this guy a niger.

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Anonymous

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if you want to know somalis they will call you kinky hair which means hard hair wide nose etc though we are black we are diferent we are tall small nose silky hair so if i were you i wouldn't marry her.

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ladan

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HALLOW ANNON.
Please folow your heart and your mind,dont be confused by others,if you and your somali lady are in love ther is no wrong, you can married her
any time,but the most importent thing is for you to be A MUSLIM.
Brother you and all somalis have to know that she is not the fast or the last somali women to be maride by unsomali man. YOU LOVE HER & SHE LOVES YOU,so you are lucky go for it and god luck.sorry for my broken English i wish i could write better but at list i am trying.

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Anonymous

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ladan
qasaaro ka talis aa tahay

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ladan

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HI QASAARO

Adigaa ayaa iga sii daran.
Mida kale waxay tahay ku farax ama sidaad rabtid u oy koley labadii ruux way is jejelyihiin insha allah wayna is guursan donaa.
Maxay kulatahay QASAARO?
Waa adiga dadka kale kafaaneyso koley waxaad haysid isagana wuu qabaa,miyaad wax kadheertahay mise?
Maxay sameen lahayd haddii gabadhaadi nin aan soomaali ahayn ay calafkeda noqoto? Dadkale waxba haka yaabin ee calafka waa halkiisa.

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Anonymous

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SALUGLA you are so wonderful you give that stupid man a real answer.Niggas killer he is a killer for him self,becase he is alsow a bigger Nigger.
He think that he is an arab or what? you are black nigger. He is and will be a NIgger forever and ever.
I am a somali girl who dont like peopel who think that they are better than other.

Waad ku mahadsantahay Salugle,waan kula jiraa.

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ladan xirsi

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HI QASAARO

Adigaa ayaa iga sii daran.
Mida kale waxay tahay ku farax ama sidaad rabtid u oy koley labadii ruux way is jejelyihiin insha allah wayna is guursan donaa.
Maxay kulatahay QASAARO?
Waa adiga dadka kale kafaaneyso koley waxaad haysid isagana wuu qabaa,miyaad wax kadheertahay mise?
Maxaad sameen lahayd haddii gabadhaadi nin aan soomaali ahayn ay calafkeda noqoto? Dadkale waxba haka yaabin ee calafka waa halkiisa.

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sista

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To mr anon,

Brother don't let this fools get you down. I doubt that you will ever understand just how ignorant they can be. The best thing to do is keep away from their 1900's mentality and move on with your girl. Some of this fools dont even know what love means. There way of sweet talking a woman is,... "lady where the food at?" What i am trying to say is, don't let their filthy words get into you.

Yes its very important if you convert into islam but they will still judge you just cause your are not somali. Good luck.


peace!

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Salugla

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This is for the brotha who's in love with Somalian girl. My advice to you is cut this out..I don't think it'll work out. Your family might be great and happy about the situation but hers will never be. And this love thing you talking about is bull..if she dies tomorrow god for bit..you gonna find you self another woman to love. I believe we should all stick with our own kind...If you were Muslim that's another story, but i don't see it happenning with you 2..I could be wrong. Find youself another A.American woman and live happily ever after. No offence to the Somali girl.

But don't let me disscourage you...AND THE LOVE THING THAT'S GOING 4 U 2.

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SoomaaliGuy

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Salaan all,

Meeshan imikaan arkay ma doonaayo inaan af igiriisi ku qoro sabab anigu dan kama lahi inan yar oo adoon ah in afkii kii lahaan jiray inaan kula hadlo.

Anigu waxan ahay nin soomaali ah oo asal ah oo 24 ah. Hallkan waxan joogay ilaa mudo 11 Aanadood ah ka hor carabtaan joogi jiray somalia wax iigu dambasay anoo aad u yar. Af soomaliga anaa is baray : Ninbaa laga hayaa markad umada kale baratid waxay yihiin iyo dhaqankooda ayaad kaaga dib ugu soo laabanaysaa kaaga oo aw kuu dhadhami doonaa" .

Anigu waxan la yaabay naagahan soomaaliyeed ee intay shal;ay qorbo soo galeen is badalay. Muslim iyo diin kula talinaaya nin gaal ah. SOOMAALINIMO ma diin kaliyaa?????????????? walaahi dhiigii ayaad igu kaciseen , Carab oo muslin ah oo af soomaali ka hadala ayaanu is guursan jirin waabaa adoon , ina neceb oo bastard inoogu yiidha .

Raga soomaaliyeed waan arkay halkan intooda badan wax ku sii yara jira Soomaalinmo , laakiin naag soomaaliyeed taas waligood ma lahaan jirin Cadaw iyo cadaan bay maanta wada raaceen.

Tan meesha le raga soomaaliyeed baa caynkaas ah , oo sidaad awgeed baan adoon u raacayaa. mid kaliya ayaan ugu jawaabi lahaa, " Xaarku Xaar ayuun buu ku darsamaa " Adoon hadaad is leedahay rag soomaali ayay wax dhaamaan , waxa ku haysa jaahilnimo aanan dawo lahayn, Somali baa la adoonsan jiray halkaad ku maqashay ??????????????/ Somali saw ma aha ragii macaa cashuurta isticmaarka diiday saw ragii Gibib iyo Koorfil maadhiin la dhacay ma aha. Sidaad adoon iila sintaa, Saw maanta Sacuudiga meel looma bixin " Shaarac Al Sabca" " Wadadii todobada" oo 1950gii nin soomalai ah ay carabi Cabiid ku yidhaandeen ee aw todoba ku tooktay meeshaas. Waagaas kuwan aad siilka u kala haysaa adoon bay ahaayeen oo waxaba Sacuudiga la xoreeyay 1963 oo malik Faysal ayaaba xoreeyay markay aduunaydii la yaabtay.

Anigu garan waa maalintay naag soomaaliyeed umaday ka dhalatay baran doonto , ee laakin horaa loo shaagay " Naagi way kula dhalatay laakiin kaamay dhalan" naagana " Ninkii qaawiya kama quusato". Adoon iyo waxad doonaysaan raaca oo Soomaalinimada noo daaya, anakaa dalkeenii iyo dhaqankeenii maalin dib u soo celi doona. Markaasana ilaahayw yaa ikaa tusa adoo adoon yar iyo qarac cad oo yar laalaadinayaa soomaaliya , hadaan xabad kula dhicin , Somali ma ahi.


Nabdeey

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makkaawi

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war somaliguy
ciil baa ku dilay ee allaha kuu gargaaro.
laakiin waxaan ilaah ku mahdinayaa inuunan na gaynin meel gabdhihii ay walaalahood ku agmaraan oo jareer naf ka raadiyan.
malaha hawshii qaranka ayaa lagabay.
allow hanuuni inta lunsan.
walaalkiin makkaawi

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khalil

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what a carp we are!... and all of us were just talking to one afro-american that wants a somali girl! what happened to us?. don't we have other things to do folks?. The girl has a choice and intermarriage is not a crime. and religion? it is a choice too. So let 's cut this crap call the night. and let sanity reigns our head again cuz we went insane.

ANd you afro-camerican, As carawelo and princess put it, you don't ask a nation such that question man. you got the girl, deal with her and her family that is it. good luck.
khalil.

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disgusted

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Honey:
you made me feel sick. i Swear you made me vomit.
what a dhilo u r!.
why telling us all this piece of crapy life of yours?. do u think it is necessary for us to know?.

you were jsut being sillywhore

disgusted

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Galaadi

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Annon:
You better keep this bitch for good because no somalian man is ever gonna marry a bitch pearced by an infidel. Do her a favour, man.

GENERAL:
I don't know why but it seems alot foreigners are using somali user names and pretending to be somalian. They think they can hide, but can they?...learn more about somali culture before you try your next trick......good tip.

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MFG

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Helloo asalaamu aleykum to all of you to my muslim brothers to Mr Anon hi .

Anon i would like to say to you there is no body against you if you are muslim but the point is we muslim (real muslim) believe in 1 religion and 1 race there is no difference between white and black our race is islam if you are muslim i want to say to you success; if you are not you dont get any right to marry any muslim girl hell no , but i am so sorry that i cannt tell if she is real muslim or not otherwise if she is so she will never marry you when you are still christian.

Anon let me give you good advice if you love her so much dont let her to loose her identity couse of your love accept her religion than she will be yours otherwise she cannt be, unless she become a christian or leave her own religion, becouse that is our rule.Other side i think you just wanna know our ideas and you have it enough stop this senseless talk.

to the other guys who are supporting him is not bad but think about difference between christian and muslim then give your ideas that is all.

to the others who is talking about that discusting racism or tribal system stop that senseless thema and grow up we are muslim and our brotheres and sisters are muslims doesnt matter which colour they are either withe or black and if he becomes muslim you dont get any right to talk about that.

success all of you
think about islam not about the racism.

MFG

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MAD MAC

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MFG
You don't just "become" a muslim. What if Anon doesn't believe in all of the tenets of Islam? If he is willing to convert for a woman he loves he should be converting anyway. Converting to marry a woman is living a lie. If you really believed then you would have converted already. You see my point. If Anon studies Islam and decides it's the right path then great - by all means he should embrace Islam. But if he doesn't really believe he is lying to himself, his woman and to God. The one big rub I have with Islam is exactly this scenerio. A man and woman fall in love and now Islam says they can not marry because the man is not a Moslem. True passion comes seldom in life. It's not like you just go out and find another partner. This is how people end up marrying someone they don't really love. You get one chance at life and if you •••• it up you don't get another. I am thankful my girlfriend is not Somali so I'm not in this position where I have to choose between lying and give up a soulmate. Now brace yourself for the firestorm of responses from the narrow minded on the net who can't stand any criticism from gaal.

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muslimah

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assalamu alaikum warahmah to all ma muslim siblings,

realsomaliman brother what is up with all this hatred? man if we're muslims what difference does it make where you from...it's all about if the two ppl understand, respect, and love eachother...and that has nothing to do with being somali or not...nationality is just a bonus but the main thing is religion...anon brother i'd like to say to you don't convert because of this lady friend of yours but because you understand the faith and it's really what you want...i'll tell you this tho...if you really study the religion you yourself will find out that it's the only way for mankind...and i mean all mankind...ofcourse with the guidance of the almighty...

you're definitely gonna have a lotta ppl who will give you a hard time but you've gotta move on and don't care what they say if you got both of your family's blessings that's ofcourse if you convert...don't think that i'm tryin' to persuade you or anything (but am trying) really i'd only advise you to read the quran and do research and god willing you'll be aight...

sister carawelo you're right i've gotta agree with you but just little thing let's not forget our beloved prophet mohamed pbuh...cuz in islam we have the shahadatayn the two shahadah's ashhadu anna laa ilaaha ilaallah wa ashhadu anna muhammadun rasoolulaah...and their inseperable you've gotta believe in both to be considered a muslim...well i'm sorry i just had to get that in there...

mad mac man there you go again trying to divert ppl from the path...you need to do some studying man...if you wanna part of somalis you've gotta learn the faith...and i know you'll probably say "ohh i already know islam...i've read the quran" it's not only reading the quran but also understand the wisdom behind it...and that's what you're lacking...the wisdom of the quran bro...w/o that you'll never have the clear understanding of it...

and to the rest who were cursing in both somali and english grow up guys and stop the playa hatin' if the man can treat the lady right then let them be...she's obviously happy with him...so pls try to be a bit more understandin' no offence taken i hope cuz that wasn't ma intention

well take ya'll and wassalamu alaikum warahmah

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Caraweelo

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Mad Mac-
There is wisdom- much greater than passion- behind the Quran's teachings.
When the quran forbids believing women to marry non-believing men- it does so for the sake of the "greater" good. The good of the children, the good of the family and the good of the ummah.
You speak of "soulmates" and "passion" as the driving force behind a human's decisions. My dear man, that may be true for some. That may be how you make your decisions. And that is ok. But for others- more evolved souls- the pursuit is of a higher ideal!
We are in search of a spiritual maturity. We look at the consequences behind all of our actions and see the guidelines set by the Almighty- for what they are- Guidelines to help us achieve the higher plane.
So yes, you can look at the Quran and say-
What?! Can't marry a non-muslim, no pork, no gambling? no drinking? covering of the body?
What nonsense!
Or you can look at each commandment- and think- why? what is the goal behind each guideline?
Then and only then will you understand why a true moslem does what he/she does.
But I agree with you on this point- converting for the sake of a woman is a SIN! In doing such an act- one is lying to Allah! Pleasing man (ie. future wife and family) but lying to Allah! What can be a worse sin!
The idea is that when one is introduced to Islam- when one reads the quran with their hearts- they will see it for what it is- The Creator's Truth!
And will in turn become a believer. If he can not- then he is not worthy of marrying a muslim woman.

Muslimah- sister- I have no idea which post you were replying to...but you are right- to bear witness- one must accept the ONE Almighty Creator and Muhammed as his messenger.

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MAD MAC

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Carweelo
You make a very good point. And it's clearly where I would diverge from you philosophically. But I understand exactly what you're saying now. No one has ever explained it that soundly. I guess in a way I understand. It's like my love for Somalis. My mother asks me all the time how can I go back and try to help people that are likely going to try and kill me. Because there are "higher ideals" at stake. I will keep reading and thinking. Mahadsannid Sahib.

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