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"Can Somalia Be Divided into Two, The Republic Of Somalia and Somaliland"? by Yohanis

SomaliNet Forum (Archive): Somali Women's Forum: Archive (Before Feb 2000): "Can Somalia Be Divided into Two, The Republic Of Somalia and Somaliland"? by Yohanis
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Yohanis

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Can Somali be divided into two Nations [republic of Somalia and somaliland].?
In this day an age the world is getting together to create an economic power.
The European Union is creating or already created the most biggest market of all [448 million consumers] and while north American nations are trying to create the same unity by trying to improve their NAFTA agreement to a level where more countries in north and south America can participate. The purpose of this, is to be an economic power that will eventually lead them to become a military power. Remember, Economic power will lead a country to become a Military power, China will come to mind. Thus, economic markets of the world are getting bigger by the minute because of unity and CO-operations of those involved. We are in an age where the capacity of the consumers are needed. The more your population numbers are higher the better chances you have to create a giant market. Sadly, Somalia is destine to be divided into two. A nation of less then 8 million people with no big natural resources, expect natural Gases, is getting ready to be reduced into two nations where Goats and Camels are the primary resources. Amazing. What good will that do for our great nation if they[ the warlords] divide it into two? Why are we still living in the horrible memories of the past?. Why can not we come together and solve our problems.? Somalia is situated in a continent that is dead. In other words, Africa is falling from the world Map. Somalis have a great opportunity to create a great nation then the rest of Africans combine. We are lucky to be everywhere in the world. The best places in the world [western democracies] that is. We will better of if we stay unity and face our problems head on. If,the warlord, however, succeed to divide Somali, then we will be two hostile neighboring nations. Each one accusing the other of all the wrong doings that happened in the past. I hope to see Somali as one nation, one people that share one flag, one democratic country which harbor all the ethnic Somalis where they all live in happy, peace and prosperity.
Salute…………

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GG

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Another sh*t topic by Yohanis.

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Curri

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Yohanis - That's for Somalis to decide - not amxaar like you!

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Anonymous

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Yohanis, Aboowe macaane xageed ku maqneyd?

What a Guy!
yohanis where have you been?. We have been looking for a guy like you.
kiss,kiss,kiss for you from Duniyo. i like your Topics. keep doing it all the educated somali people are behind you.

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Disgusted.

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Well.
I am one of the educated and I don't like xabashi meddling into our affairs. Any woman who has affection for the amxaar should send to his private e-mail and let the guy know so.

I knew this naageys thing was common and didn't become surprised.

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AnonBig

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Only Yohanis can congrtulate himself! He is very adept at blowing his own trumpet! Funny isn't it how this guy changes user-name and congratulates the RUBISH he posts here! What a sick person he is!

By the way, where/when did he solicite the opinion of educated Somalis?

I've seen him elsewhere in this forums, he applauds himself as a Somali Lady (Sacdiyo!!!!!)and saying "I love Yohanis....blah...blah..."

Please get a life Mr Sick Ethiopian. You don't posses one tenth of the intelligence of an ordinary Somali....but....If you are dying to have dialogue with Somalis, then you are welcome on the condition that the topic under discussion be ETHIOPIA and ETHIOPIAN problems!

I dare Yohanis to respond to this message.

Thanks.

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Anonymous

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I gues dome of you who are claiming to be educated enough could not even figure out that the man is even somali, that is sad

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Samawade

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Hi
I really agree what yohanis posted. those of you who are accusing him of being amxaar please read the article before u judge him.

Somalia is a one nation and one people and i don't believe dividing it will solve our problems.

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SomalinetPolice

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SomNet Police is tracking the computer ids from which Yohanis and at least THREE other sick people are using to confuse people. So far what has been found is that Yohanis is sending emails to other people so that they can post on his behalf articles written by himself that support his wicked ways. Police is monitoring ALL the IP addresses that this SICK Ethiopian is using to confuse the visitors of this forums.

Police.

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Macaani

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xasha!,XASHA!, Johanis you are mearly an eithiopian slave on these matters.Who are u to telling what noble blooded nation like somalis aught to do??...u belong no where else but in chains!!!

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Samiira

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Waxay ku socotaa inta halkan ku caysay wiilka la baxay yohanis.

War maxaad iskugu sheegaysiin somali adinkaaba ka fakaraynin waxa ka dhacayo meeshase. Mida kale waxaad u egtihiin dad ka masayrsan sababtoo ah wuxuu halkan ku dhigay kuma soo qori kartiin. wuxuuna u egyahay mid intii aad adinka carta iska agfadhideen ayuu yohanis u kalahayey school. war wax iskula hara oo somalida waad cebeyseene ordahayoo barta sida la iskaga dhiciyo dadka aad ku shegaysiin amaxaro adinaka qurun amaaxaro ka liite ahe.Mida kale amaad anigana i tirihdiin asagaa naag iska soo dhigay war wax iskula hara oo barta wax aad raga faciina ah aad iskaga celisiin.


Yohanis

Walaalow waxaan horta rabaa inaan ku shego inaad tahay wiil wax bartay oo aqoon leh waxaana ku gartay sida sharafta leh ee aad u dooranaysid mowduucyadada oo anagana aan ka faa'iidaysanayno mar walba. waana loo baahan yahay aqoon yahano adiga camal ee waxna ha dhegaysanin kuwan wax magartada ah ee halkan waxay ku soo bandhigan waayey inay dadka caayaan maahane. Mida kale waxaad u egtahay mid ay naag ka dambayso marka please hadii aad doonaysid inaad la xiriirto gabar somaliyed ila soo xiriir ama halkan ku soo qor emailkaga aan kula soo xiriire. kolay aniga ma rabo inaan halkan emailkayga kusoo qore ilayn rer baadiyo iyo kuwo aan wax fahmaynin ayaa iga buuxinayo mailkee.
Thank You again.

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mudan

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jaaw kuligiin
rintii waxaad tahay nin history soo bartay oo cilmi leh marka labaad waxaan u maleenaayaa in aysan fahmin su'aashaada dadkaan yohnis teeda kale kiidiidan iyo kii kaleba somali history ahaan waa labo oo taasi is indhotir mooyee waa run hadana in ay kalagodo maxuma in kasta oo aan aniga jecleentaas oo aan jeclahay in ay soomaalida is fahmaan oo nabad ilaah dhaxdhigo oo an hilmaamaan cudurka qabiil leeyahay sida ka taagan maanta oo gobol walba u leeyahay madaxweyne aan xitaa micnaheeda lafahmaynin war kala go'ooda maaqaane waxaan ka yaabay odoyaasha dhiigya cabka ah ee xumaan iyo shar leeka taliyo oo aan naxariisba lahayn waxay maatida ay maskaxda kabadaleen u jecelyihiin aan ka yaabay meeshaanuu kursi yar oo meel laga keenay uusan aqoon in xitaa dadlaga soo dhacay uu ku fadhiyaa oo uu sugaa shilin dhibada looja soo tuugsaday ama ari agoon loo gaday laga keenay maraasuu kii kaliya in tuu iska dhigo xataa uusan ka fa kareenin wabi maa inta maro bad maan qabnaa xoolo badan maan qabnaa ama meeshaan xoolo ma ku dhaqmaan iwm waxa kaliya uu dhaho waa gobalkeena noo gooya dabaalka iyo dabaalada ma ka fikiraan masaanbaan ku noolaan karnaa mise. war waqooyi iyo koonfur lee historyka ku jiree in tay ka imaadeen waxaan kale kiina dibada joogo iyo kan dahla joogaba waxaad tihiin wax kala daran oo dhiig ma ogiye nabadba aanan rabin sikast oo ay historyka ugu jirto 2 dhinac hadana in ay isku darsamaan wax uga fiican malaha marka kuwiina dibada jooga odayaasha dhiigya cabka ah oo ku daneesanaayo maatida kareeba hadaad wax rajo kaleh wadankooda oo agoontaas kanaxaayo aad tihiin iyo maatida xataa bariiska aan heli karin dibada waad aragteen in ay future idinka iyo limihiina ulahayna wadankiina utaliya oo intaad qabiil hilmaantaan isla tashada ileen idinkaa runtii arkee. Ilaah dalkeena ha ka yeelo kii israaca oo nabadi ka dhalato diin fiicanaleh oo ku dhaqma

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Yohanis Aseffa

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I think that Somalia needs to join Ethiopia as one great country. Why the constant division? -- Somalia was once part of Ethiopia and it shall be again. I've heard that there are a few Ethiopian troops occupying parts of North eastern Somalia.

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somali

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you are fool stupid etipian and don never dream that somalia would come a part of ethiopia, we shall see soon or later that the ogaden land would be free. now you are dreaming that the somalia shall come a part of ethiopia. as a somalian our first enemy is ethiopian and we regard as enemy you should know that , here you don have to came and to chat somalian people. we hate you and your state and one day somalia will came peace and next target will be your country.
i love somalia and somalian people no matter what has happened
god pless somalia and somalian ppl

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Yohanis Aseffa

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Listen, it is an historical fact that Somalia was part of the kingdom of Abyssinia (ETHIOPIA). Also, as I have said several times before, Ethiopian acquisition of Somali land is nothing new -- we already have Harar, Diredawa, Ogadenia, etc. --the rest of Somalia will soon be ours (and yours, because we will all be Ethiopian!)

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Jirdeh

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Dear yohanis!!!


I am an educated somali man with a lot of connections with both north and south> However, the notion of dividing somalia is fabricated political propaganda by few southern politicains> Somaliland was a seperate colonial entity before 1960, after the non materialized union, which never rectified by the people of somaliland, nor the united Nation.

The second part will address your ignorance about the topic you tride to entice everone, comparing somaliland and somalia with European Union and north american free Trade (NAFTA) is comparing apples with Oranges. The Europeans and American are trying to have an economic cooperation not a political unification.

Let us start having and promoting eceonomic and cultural cooperation between all somalis not a never ending decisive political wish full thinking.

P.S
Yohanis please make sure you have the necessary tool before you open your mouth and run with a topic that ypou are the least qualified to discuss.

The author is a financial economist who currently lives in the United states.

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shadiya

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TO: somali

i love walaal waan ka helay saad u la hadashay amxaarka injirta leh ,somalidana waxaan u sheegi inay ninkan waxuu mesha ku qorqorayo ayan egin sababtoo ah wuu isku dirayaa bye.

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Dhiblaawe

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Maxaa Dhici Kara Haddii Koonfur Goosato Markeeda?

Waxaan markasta taageersanahay in la midoobo la ahaado waddan qura, dad qura,laakiin waxaad mooddaa in dadyooga qaarkiis aay xal moodeen in la kala goo go', somaliland waxeey u dagaallameeysaa in aay hesho waddan qura, sidoo kale gobolka Bari waxa uu doonayaa in uu go'o, kolka koofur maxaa u xal ah illeen soomaali weeyn la waayaye? waxeey ila tahay in koofur aay iyaduna goosato oo aay ku dhawaaqdo sida ugu dhaqsaha badan sidii aay uga go'i laheeyd EX Jamhuuriyaddii Somaliya la oran jiray.
Haddaba aan su'aashii u soo noqdee maxaa dhici kara haddii koofuri tallaabadaas qaaddo? Waxaa dhici kara in waqooyi iyo Bari noo soo hooydaan oo aay gartaan in aayan istaagi karin, koofur la'aanteed. Waxaa hubaal ah in aay koofur noqoneeyso halka ugu dhaqaalaha badan seddexdaas gobol ee kala go'day, waxay koofur noqoneeysaa sida "Kuwait" oo kale.
Waxaan sabab uga dhigayaa labadaas arrin ee aan kor ku soo xusay in marka aad is barbar dhigto seddexda shacab ee ku kala nool seddexdaas gobol aay ugu wax soo saar badan yihiin ama ugu ilbaxsanyihiin shacabka koofurta, waayo ilbaxnimo waxa aay ka timaadaa sideedaba meelha biyaha leh agagaarkooda iyo dad beeraleey ah.Jamhuuraiyaddii soomaaliya waxaa quudin jiray koonfurta Somalia, kolka waa Ilaah mahaddiis haddii aay walaalaheen isbixin karaan.
Annaga waxaad nagu ogtihiin in aan goosanno derisnimo wadaagno.Idiin soo gurmanno haddii aad noo baahataan, laakiin dadaala, dhulkiinna Ilaah ha idiin wanaajiyo keennnana sidoo kale.
Waxaan is wareeysan doonna markii aan kala baxno oo aay cid kastaa noqoto dawlad madaxbannaan.
Waxaana nala yiraahda saacaddan ka bilaabato
SOUTH EX- SOMLIA.

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XAAJI MARQAAN

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salaan,

marka hore ma waxaad leedahay somaliland baan ka maarmin somalia ninyahoow? myth iyo reality baadan kuu kala soocnayn su;aal aan ku waydiiyee iminka somaliland ma south baa masruufta? waa yaab kalee burburka soomaaliya ka taagan ma somaliland baa ka masuul ah hadaadse leedahay waqooyi beera kuma yaalaan, koley somaliland qaoon baa kuugu laaban. yes, south iyo north waa isku af,dhaqan,dhalasho,diin,etc mid waligaa maanka ku haay reality north 100% way kamaarantaa south walaal goosashada somaliland sababteeda waxaad waydiisaa cali mahdi iyo 113ka afarta jeeblaha ahaa sababtoo ah waqooyi markii ay qabsatay SNM 120 days ayey south ka warsugaysay in si wadajir ah xukunka loo qaybsado laakiin waxay xaajo noqotay kadar oo dibi dhal I don't if you aware that marka walaal reer somaliland kaa sii jecel darisnimada aad sheegayso oo gar baad u leedahay in aad sidaa tiraahdo ileen 1/7/60 bay kuula yimaadeen calankooda bilaa shuruud! jawaabtoodiina way heleen.

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Anonymous

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Why amxaar doing in women's forums?

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hangool

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To Yohanis
To your first Question
NO
to the second follow up SHAME on your LICE HEAD

to The Somalis:
Don't be suprised if you find your your land and women been taken by ppl Yohanis .

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MAD MAC

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Ethiopia itself is not a very natural union (and it can't even balme European Imperialism). You have multiple ethnic groups all competing for governance. Whoever governs always ends up doing so by oppressing the majority of the population. Hence we have the civil war with Eritrea, the OLF and the Oromos try and break away. There is endless potential for conflict there exacerbated by religious differences. The last thing Somalia needs to do is enter into a poltical union with Ethiopia. Hell, they can't even unite within their own tribe.
However, Yohanis does have a point when it comes to economics. Should Somalia, Eritrea and Ethiopia establish stable regimes (and I know I'm reaching here) an economic union (as oppossed to a political one) would be extremely advisable. Trade agreements throughout the horn would benefit all. Likewise, if Somalia can establish a vibrant economy an economic union with the Arabic countries like Yemen and UAE would also be advantageous.
A political union with Ethiopia, however, is insane. Ethiopia will likely remain dominated by Christian peoples and this wouldn't be accepted by the Somalis any more than it was the Eritreans. Nabad Gelyo Jalleo!!!

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khalil

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guys C'moon i know Yohanis he is not Ethopian. So back off and give a break.
khalil

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unity

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First of all i am advising to the visitors of this forums to show a measure of civility,mutual respect,and rationality.I was amazed by the ignorance of many visitors about the issues.Most of you i guess live in civilized societies where people have feedom of speech,and disagreement.Blaspheming people who disagree with you won't serve any purpose,and nothing will be gained.I think most of us are well familiar with the mass murder,rape,ethnic/clan cleansing,racism,discrimination and the other wicked activities,that have been perpeterated against the defenseless,the weak,women and chidren.I am so bewildered by how many of you choose not to speak against the genecide against certain clans in Somalia.I am disappointed how many Somalis kept silent against the mass rape of our women.where is the Islamic values.where is the human feeling.We must stand for justice and equality for all.If this is not unleashed on you today.There is no guranttee it won't happen to you tomorrow.There was never an independent Somaliland ever.Somaliland was 5 days old when it merged with the former Italian Somaliland in 1960.The word Somaliland was common to all Somali-inhabited areas in the horn of Africa.Djbouti was French Somaliland,southern Somalia was Italian Somaliland,northern Somalia was British Somaliland.Independent viable Democratic Somaliland is an illusuion(dream).Look who is presiding over the fiefdom calling itself Somaliland.We all know the man at the helm of this beakaway fiefdom is a recycled 19th century leader,who represents what is wrong with Somalia.Ahmed yusuf Dualeh the scandalous double agent who sold Somalia is the secretary of education.This fiefdom already has the problems that brought down the somali nation state.Meanwhile there is no cultural,ethnic uniquenes exclusive to the north.The same clan and ethnic contradictions existing in Somalia are here too.Therefore,i would like the pro-Somalilanders to argue for their cause in a civil manner.Refrain from blaspheming those who disagree with them.I am from the north and yet oppose the division of Somalia.

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