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A Very Important Message:Concerns 'Father Micheals'!

SomaliNet Forum (Archive): Somali Women's Forum: Archive (Mar. 2000 - August 2000): A Very Important Message:Concerns 'Father Micheals'!
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Concerned Muslimah

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Assalamu Caleykum Wa Raxma-tu-Allah Wa Barakat!

To:SomaliNet Admin,
Time & time again I've seen pages created by a so-called character named "Father
Micheals."
I've visited atleast 3-4 discussion groups & seen his writings there. At first I was able to
tolerate his writings, but now they have become too offensive. I am a born Muslim & I am
required to do something about this Madness.

The writtings by Micheals are corrupting the under-developed minds of many Somali youths
who are unsure of Islam to begin with. These writtings are also offensive to many matured
Muslims who are true believers of Islam.

I don't see why the SomaliNet Adminstration is not doing anything about these Vulgar &
Vile words spoken by a Corrupted character? I thought this was a site for Somalis? If so,
then why do have to witness these Insane writtings by a False character? To begin with
the person is claiming to be a Non-Somali, and secondly he's disrespecting the Peacefull
Prophet Muhamad(SAW) and Allah(SWT).

How can any Muslim being sit & watch while someone trashes their Allah & Prophet?
Please, I plead with you that you delete his messages because I know that you have the
time & the resources to do it. Deleting his messages will put a stop to witnessing this
Madness.
Thank You & May Allah reward you for your good deeds Aamiin!

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Ibrahim

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Do Allah and the prophet NEED you or anyone else for that matter to defend them? Of course not!! People like you, because of your irrational intorelance and sheer dogmatic reactionary actions are harming Islam more that people like Michaels.

ALLAH CAN AND WILL DEFEND HIS CASE WHEN AND IF HE SEES FIT, AND DEFINATELY DOES NOT NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE. SO TAKE BACK YOUR SILLY SWORD AND LEARN TO BECOME A GOOD MUSLIM AND LIVE IN PEACE WITH OTHERS.

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OPSODOS

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Ibrahim:

Obviously you have your logic totally backwards my brother. Yes Allah will defend what is right but you are suppose to correct when the Quran or the Hadith is misquoted. What are you saying that you simply fold your arms and let it slide. Its that passive thinking that is creates more confusion. I suppose you just sit back and listen to any kind of nonsense which is said about your religion and your culture. To a degree you can let it slide but when it is deliberately planned then that is unacceptable.

La'ilaha ilalah!

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Anon

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Salaams,
Ibrahim is Obviously fond of what "father micheals" has said about the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) and that he said many inappropriate things about Allah. I think you should change your name to Abraham & lick father micheals ass. Somali doesn't need hypocrits such as yourself who sit & watch while Allah & the prophet(SAW) are trashed. What a lost cause you are. We've a name for traitors such as yourself Abraham & that is "Munaafiqiiin." May Allah punish you for your sins Aamiin!
LOST CAUSE..LOST CAUSE!

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Cilmi

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Bismilaah raxmaanul raxiim.
arrinta uu ka hadlay gaalka la yiraahdo father micheals waa arrin aad & aad u edeb daran. waa in somalinet wax ka qabato ninkaas.

ibrahim maxaa ku helay? oo ma waxaad aaminsantahay waxaa uu baadariga yiri? ma waxaad u maleysaa optimism in aaqiro alle kaa celin doonto? alle & nabiga(saw) waa in la difaaco hadii wax been ah laga sheegaayo. qof muslin ah inta iska fadhiisato ma daawan karto gaal in uu caayo diinta.

ma gaal-gaal baad iska dooneysaa? war sidan si isu dhaaf. alle waxaan ka baryaa in uu caqliga kuu kordhiyo.

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Zeinab

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Hi everyone! I think this was a subject that was needed to be discussed and I thank the person who started it.As for Ibrahim I think he still has a lot to learn about Islam. If he's insulting Muslimah for speaking out against injustice done to the prophet & Allah then he definately needs help. Islam requires everyone to respond out against wrong doings & injustice. No one can diss the Holly Qur'an, Allah, and the prophet(PBUH).
And if the person who disses Islam is a non Muslim then that person is a threat to Islam and should be eliminated. How a Somali being named Ibrahim sides with someone who lies about the prophet and Allah is beyond me. Ibrahim did you ever read any of Micheal's writtings? did you know that he lied about the Qur'an and said that Muhammad(PBU) invented it and copied it from the book of Christ & Torah? did you know that Micheals said that Muhammad justified homosexuality, wine, adultery and so on? and that he promised homosexuals that they flourish in heaven? He lied, lied, and lied about the Qur'an, Allah, and the Prophet(SAW) and you side with him?You feel pity for someone who lies about Allah & the Prophet(SAW)? Please learn more about Islam before you insult your fellow Muslims, who try to defend Islam!

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Ibrahim

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Hypocrits with loads of bollocks as usual. Mind your own bus, religion is an issue between one and one's maker. PERIOD. Don't play the role of Allah.

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From: MAD PAC

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FORWARD>>>>

To all psychopaths who are pretending to be Muslims.

Bashir Abdi was doing allright up until he started advocating hunting people down like deer
because they have a viewpoint that is different from his. I believe the translation of As Salam
Alekum is "Peace be with you". Not "Peace be with everyone except for motherfuckers who
don't believe what I do." You all need to re-read the Koran and get the big picture instead of
quoting individual verses looking for justification to act like lunatics. And lastly, every time a
muslim state challenges the west (at least every time in modern history) that state gets
smoked like a cheap cigar. Technologically you're all at least a generation behind, which
doesn't bode well for confrontation. I suggest you pick up the old Army motto "cooperate and
graduate." You think Father Michaels is off-base. That's fine. You've a right to your opnion -
personally I think he's off base myself. But don't go nuts on the guy. Just point out your
different point of view. I love Somali people but when you start acting like Presbyterian Scotts
you drive me crazy.

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•••• IBRAHIM & MICHEALS

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IBRAHIM=FATHER MICHEALS
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knowledge

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What is this a competion on who insults the most. This is a respectable forums and the people that enter it should behave like it.

Now concerning what father micheal has said i agree with you it is not correct but as muslims we should not get angry but rather take the time to show him where he has gone wrong that way the other youngsters too will see that the quran is perfect.

There is no need to insult or to turn father micheal away, through teaching father micheal we will teach all other muslims that the quran has all the answers.

there is no reason to feel threatened, through questioning we learn more.

power to knowledge

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RICHARDSON

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•••• ALL SOMALI MUSLIMS.
YOU ALWAYS YOUARE 5THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND WE WRONG IS THAT WAHT YOU BELEIVE DUNM IT.WE NEVER CHAGWE OUR BELEIVES AND JESUS IS OUR SAVIOR.
HALALUUYAHN PRAISE THE LORD. HAEVENLY FATHER WE THANK YOU THAT WE ARE CHRISTIAN.
JESUS LOVER OF SOUL.
JESUS, I NEVER LET YOU GO.
TAKEN ME IN TO THE MERY CLAY.
NOW I KNOW
MY SAVIOR, MY CLOSEST FREIND I WILL NEVER LET YOU GO.
I LOVE YOU, I NEED YOU
AND I WILL WORSHIP YOU UNTIL THE VERY END.
THANKM YOU JESUS FOR YOUR SAVING US THANK YOU JESUS.THANK YOU FATHER FOR YOUR SON, LORD FERTALIZE YOUR WORDS AROUND THE WORLD.

SOOMAALIYEY DAD BAA JIRA IDIN LA DHASHEY OO SOOMAALI AH DIINTOODANA JECEL EE AFLAGAADADA JOOJIYA IDINKOO QUDHI MUSLIM MA TIHIINE, XAYAWAANIIN YAHAY

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coolmankid.

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Richardson.

Thanks for the song my friend. I know the church doesn't promote diologue with muslims because they are afraid that muslims will influence you the same way the devil influences people. BUT DO THEY HAVE A REASON to fear from educated muslims?. Yes, They do and I tell you why.

An educated muslim knows that the bible doesn't teach JESUS peace be upon him is GOD. Nowhere in the bible does Jesus say clearly "I am GOD so worship me" but the opposite is many. I give you examples and I hope you don't PANICK AND FEEL YOUR FAITH will be shaken*which is propaply how a christian feels when told to worship ALLAH ALMIGHTY and not his SLAVE JESUS.* That is a good reason to panick. Now my points:


-First, Jesus clearly tells you in the bible mr richardson, that what he brought was not his but for THE GOD WHO CREATED HIM and sent him as a MESSENGER to the jews (not a black somali or a whiteman unfortunately) as he said *I am sent unto the lost sheep of israel*.

Here is the proof.

"Jesus answered them and said, "My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me." [John 7:16]

"He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me." [John 14:24]
So jesus clearly had no agenda of his own but the agenda of Allah right?.

"For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak." [John 12:49]

Haaa! that one was good. because jesus had no authority of his own. How come then you guys worship a MAN WHO HAD NO AUTHORITY AT ALL?. What can he do to save you if he takes the orders FROM GOD?. Isn't that ridiculous?. I tell you, don't waste your time and regret later when you stand infront of the creator of the universe.

I WONDER HOW YOU CAN EXPLAIN THIS 1+1+1=1 Go ask your experts and come back with the answer. May be another guy here in the forumss will help you out called MAD MAC.

-JESUS fulfills the will of ALLAH. and here is your proof:

"Jesus said to them, "My food is to do the will of him who sent me, and to accomplish his work." [John 4:34]

"For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me." [John 6:38]


Oh my GOOOOOOOOOOOD! Look at that MAN! Is that clear or what, MAY BE I AM QUOTING some other bible not the one you read. JESUS IS DOING THE WILL THE ONE WHO SENT HIM. Muslims worship that one and will succeed because jesus can do nothing in the eyes of god. How can he?. when he is told to do or not to do?.

About about POWER and prestiege to do things?..

" I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me." [John 5:30]

Does that ring a bell my friendddddddddd?. Ma soobaali baa tahay adiga dulli alle waaba ku saaraye dulliyohow.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW! this one, this one is good MY FRIEND, Enjoy it with me and here it comes(you can run but you can't hide):;

"I tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him." [John 13:16]
May be I should kiss this verse because it might be one of the few true verses of god.

And this one:;

"You heard me say, `I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, "you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I." [John 14:28]
And when jesus COMES back he will be AMONG US MUSLIMS and pray behind OUR GREAT IMAM and kill the jews and chritians or ISLAMIZE THEM. what a great prophet!. I wish I was there that day he comes so I can take part the demolition of THE CROSS throughout the world. HAVE YOU HEARD THE DEMOLITION MAN?. You got it.

Check this one too:

" I came not of my own accord, but he sent me." [ John 8:42]

"To sit at my right hand and at my left is not mine to grant, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared by my Father" [Matthew 20:23]

So you don't go to heaven as you claim my friend, because it is FOR ALLAH TO GRANT THAT WISH. You will propaply rott in hell if you die singing like that.

Jesus's KNOWLEDGE was limited. How CAN HE BE GOD when his knowledge is limited?. A god with a limited knowledge is nothing. The true god is the ONE WHOSE KNOWLEDGE ENCOMPASSES ALL things. check the coming one. You don't see it in the bible because they are selctive at what they read to you AT SUNDAYS. Caqliga alla qaad ilaahay waaba kaa qaadey.


-jesus didn't know anything unless was told so period.

"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only." [Mt 24:36]

"So Jesus answered them, "My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me" [John 7:16]

RICHARDSON; if you don't follow ALLAH'S ORDERS you won't go heaven GUARANTEED.

"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." [Mt 7:21]

So how many chicks did you sleep with?. How many times did you steal my friend?. Because a christian CAN DO ANYTHING AND GOES TO HEAVEN. Ignoring the bible that teaches them to work hard and not do forbidden things. But wait! THERE IS ANOTHER GOD THEY WORSHIP TOO, SAINT PAUL Who told them the law WAS CANCELLED. What a wish. propably HE IS IN HELL ROTTEN for fabricating lies.

I conclude with these and good luck with your idiotic down syndrome that causes you NOT TO THINK as allah wanted you to think. SING SING MY FRIEND IF YOUR SONG WILL HELP YOU AGAINST THE FURY OF GOD WHEN YOU MEET HIM IN THE HERE-AFTER.

"And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone." [Mr 10:18]

"And I do not seek My own glory; there is One who seeks and judges." [John 8:50]

Take a look at the last verse RICHARDSON. hey my friend I could teach you few verses in the bible SO DON'T RUN AND ASK YOUR FORGIVER IN THE CHURCH ANYTHING ABOUT THESE. He will tell you to shut up and not seek knowledge which is against the teachings of jesus.

MAY THE LORD THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE FREE YOUR MIND FROM THE SUPERSTITION AND LIES. You are a blind person and a deaf at heart.

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coolamnkid.

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Richardson :

Walaaltinimadana innoo hey xoogaa intaan is fahmeyno. walaalihii kalaa maaro loo la' yahay oo meesha waad aragtey sida la isugu bax baxsado. timirtii horeba dab loo waa ma maqashey lol!.

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Muriidi

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lolololol.....Coolmankind,

Thanks bro you made me laugh, how you rediculed this ignorant Richardson. Please ask him if a god on the cross to be executed begs for another god to save him. Why did Jesus said "Ellay, ellay lama sabaqtanee" which means "Allah, Allah why hast thou forsaken me" would someone prepared to be sacrificed cry for mercy, that's absurd.

Richardson, continue singing until it changes into crying you fool.

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coolmankid.

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Muriidi.

My pleasure brother. richardson and others who hide themselves in our names can learn something if they stick around for a little while. We will help them open their eyes and learn how to read the bible in the correct manner.

Richardson:

Waa sidaan hore kuugu sheegey arrinta. duruus cilmiyeysan baa meeshan laguugu hayaa ee hamoogaan.

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khalil

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coolMankind:


your article was an outstanding and full answers for those who are searching for truth. but Brother, believe me for the last 4 years, i was led to believe that what those missionaries want is not truth. All they want is to convert muslims. And the reason is Islam seemed threat to the west. Islam restores the nature of the human beings. it teaches humans should be all free and be slaves of only GOd. And the west wants to inslave and colonize the human species. Right there, you see there is conflict.

Islam is eay, fair, peacefull and logical religion. and yet it is the only threat that the west can't take. you may say why?. After everything else failed the west wants to use christianity as a tool to invade others. The church teaches all hypocrisity. Here Father Micheal and his lost somali stooges teach "revenge is a negative. so forgive and forget. if you are slaped,turn the other cheek. love your enemy." which means the white man will invade and robe the human species.And the human species will forgive him and forget whatever he has done to us. don't you think this is a big joke?. the ironic thing here is it is only christianity which teaches forgiveness and yet it is only christians who don't forgive. they say Islam is violent because simply Islam teaches "if you invaded by aggressors, you have rights to fight back and reclaim your taken property" . is that a violent or the nature of things. to conclude my writing, all i want to say was don't think those people are looking for right religion or even christians. those Satans all they want is to corrupt muslim youth. they were get paid to do this. and it is the only way they pay their bills.

khalil.

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SISTER

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Magaca Eebe yaan ku billaabaynaa ee
naxariis guud iyo mid gaaraba naxariista.

1. Qaaricada(qalbiga garaacda)
2. Qaarica maxay tahay?
3. Mase taqaanaa Qaarico?
4. Waa Maalinta Dadku noqon sida baalallay
5. Buuruhuna ay noqon sida suuf kala firdhay
6. Ruuxiise miisaankiisa(fiican)cuslaado
7. Wuxuu ku noolaan nolol raali ah
8. Ruuxiise uu fududaado Miisaankiisa (fiican)
9. Wuxuu u hoydaa (Naarta) Haawiya
10. Ma taqaannaa Haawiya
11. Waa Naar kuleyl daran.

In the name of Allah,Most Gracious, most Merciful.

1. The (day) of Clamour
2. What is the (day) of Clamour?
3. And what will explain to thee what the (day) of Clamour is?
4. (It is) a Day whereon Menkind will be like moths
Scattered about,
5. And the mountains Will me like carded wool
6. Then, he whose balance (of good deeds)
Will be (found) heavy,
7. Will be in a life Of good pleasure and satisfaction.
8 But he whose Balance(of good deeds) Will be (found) light,-
9. will have his home In a (bottomless) Pit
10. And what will explain To Thee what this is?
11.(It is) a Fire Blazing fiercely!

This makkan Súra describees the judgment Day as the Day of Clamour,when menkind will be distracted
and the landmarks of this world will be lost,but
every deed will be weighed in a just balance,and find its real value and setting.

LAA ILAAHA ILLAL LAAHU WAXDUHU LAA SHARIIKA LAH,
LAHUL MULKU WALAHUL XAMDU WAHUWA CALAA KULLI
SHAY`IN QADIIR.
ILLAH HANAGA DHIGO KUWA HANUUNSAN AAMIIN!

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