     SAFIYA AHMED | Unrecorded Date
One Friday evening i came home from school at an UN-EXPECTED.time.I was not feeling well and so my teacher allowed me to go home early.I came home and saw the Main door was not closed.I went in,placed my bag on the sofa and went upstairs to see if my father was at home,since it was unusual to see the door not locked.I thought Aboo was home from work or something.Hoyooo went to Somalia to vist Ayeeeyo and she'll be back in May 22nd.So i approached my Parents bedroom before i heard some soft noise and laughter.I slowly sneaked next to the door,kneeled down the door hole and peeped through.What i saw was disgusting.I was Terrified.I was Shocked.I felt betrayed and unbelievably irritated.My father was under the bedsheets with another woman.I could not believe it.How could he do that to my mother and us>?This is not fair.I ran downstairs to the bathroom and vomitted.I felt sick.They were not aware of me ofcourse cuz they were too busy with themselves?
What am i going to do?I know its bad of me to write it in this manner and public but i had to take it out of my chest?Should i tell my mother when she comes back?I have spoken to my father since that day.I only say "yes" and "no" to his question.Hes not the same father i knew.What should i do?
SAFIYA AHMED |
| fardoosoo | Unrecorded Date
safiya
if i were you i would tell your mother but make sure she does NOT say u told her.Maintain your relationship with your father but YOU HAVE TO.tell her.Let it be bettween him and your mother.Cheating should not be forgiven..no way |
| musimah | Unrecorded Date
assalamu alaikum warahmah sister safiyah,
b4 igive you an advise i'm gone ask you few questions that i believe would helpme in giving you the best advise i can...so pls first tell me how old are you? how many siblings do you have? how close are you to your father? how close are your parents? let me know what you can and i'll try ma best to help walaalo...ohh meanwhile increase your prayers to allah pls it can be of great help
wassalamu alaikum warahmah
your sister in islam
muslimah |
| Sumaya | Unrecorded Date
Dear: Safiya
Asalaama Caleykum
Abaayo if what you wrote its true according to Islam your father should stoned to death because he commit big sin while he was married and doing Adultery, another hand may be your father has a another wife like same Somali men does, so I will advice you To talk your father instead of mother may be it will lead if you tell your mother divorce or family distraction so carefully your action and I don’t tell anybody this is family privacy. Allaah knows best
Yours truly, Sumeya |
| marian | Unrecorded Date
Sumeya
lol stoned to death.....lol.. I VOTE FOR THAT..LOL |
| MUNA | Unrecorded Date
I SAY CALL YOUR MOM RIGHT NOW IN SOMALIA AND TELL HER..SHE HAS TO KNOW. |
| Cleopatra | Unrecorded Date
Okay, I will give you the benfit of the doubt and give you my 2 cents. But first, where is the advice from the guys huh??
Anyway sis, this is a tough one. You should talk to both your parents. Let everyone know how you see things and where you stand.
If this woman is a second wife of your father, he still doesn't have the right to bring her to your mother's bedroom, using her bedsheets. This is double violation, gee I don't want to insult your Dad, but I feel like you did......vomiting!!! |
| CiiseRooti | Unrecorded Date
Da family thing..wait.. I am not good at it, but hey....ah what do ya think if ya keep dat thing secret, like my sexual affairs with da twins sisters.
I Ain't lying aboutta it, it's guts drenching, pain in da ass issue..
About da (twin sisters)....sisters don't get me wrong like I am player, it's was big"0" mistake dat I did and I do regret...oh lord mercy on us
CiiseRooti |
| Muriidi | Unrecorded Date
Cleopatra,
The culprit is a guy and we have our tails between our legs, that's why you haven't seen us, but now you dug us out let me brave my five cents:
What was the girls name........let me scroll up..yea Safiya, don't be so naive, there is no perfect human being, those giving you the advise to demolish your family ain't saints. I'd suggest that you confront your dad, if she is a hidden wife, then spare the guy, if not, then again spare the humiliation to your father, just let him know that you know and I assure you that it'll be enough punishment for him, and if he is intelligent enough he will never commit this horrendous sin again. |
| TALLMAN | Unrecorded Date
Samiya: No, Islam doesn't teach that. It needs four witnesses who saw the action. I mean the hotdog in vibration. Muriidi, thanx for saving me from scrolling all up. Safia, if that's the right name, although I am a man who cannot see from women's prespective I am confused, speechless to be more precise! Some statistics show that vast majority of guys would have sex if a pretty woman approaches them, therefore he is not the only one. Havinf an extra marital relationship is very risky and your father has been busted big time.
He will defend himself even if he has to lie which can backfire on you. What if he says this girl made everything up after I cought her kissing a man in our bed room. He is closer to your mom than you because they have been sleeping in the same bed for Allah know how long.
As they say, proceed with your own risk. Otherwise just keep silent. |
| fariid | Unrecorded Date
safiya.let your dad have fun sometimes.and don't tell what you saw to your mom.otherwise you will lost both.
please stay the only one who know what happen that day.
he just changed oil...nothing bad. |
| Qumayo | Unrecorded Date
Safiya,I know the reality is too much at this time but the only thing i can say to you is to make sure if the other woman you saw with your father isn't his junior wife(minyaro or whateva).
and don't tell your mom about what you have classped on your eyes while she was away until she gets rest all the long trip from somali to where you are because it my cost her emotional destress. |
| Alwatan | Unrecorded Date
Get a life Safiya.First of all that is why your mother loved him.So please mind your own business.If it was your mother who was cheating what would you have done? Stop the nonsense and don't watch too many talk shows. |
| some1 | Unrecorded Date
My father has been having an affair for over 20 years. The whole family know apart from my mother. We keep it a secret. She loves and he loves her in his own way. If we tel mum she would leave straight away and it would destroy our family. So sis safiya i am not gona give u advice. Only can decide what is the best for and your familiy. But remember what ever decision u make u will have to leave it will u for the rest of your life.
May God give u the ability to think and reason
God bless you child. |
| Cleopatra | Unrecorded Date
God, I hate double standards!!!
Safiya, the fact that this woman might be a min yaro or wife is beside the point!!. He brought her to your mother's bedroom............what kind of respect does he have for your mother? Couldn't he afford to rent another place? Don't allow your mother to sleep in that bed used by another woman.
People, waa bahantahay looma baqtiyo cuno.
The man has crossed the ultimate line...Wuxuu istaahiilaa biyo kuluul intaa loo karkariyo, lagu hafiyo. |
| MEN BASHER | Unrecorded Date
LOL CLEO....LOVE YA....LOL HOT WATER SEEMS FINE WITH ME..LETS ORGANISE A WOMEN ATTACK GROUP AND ATTACK THIS ASS HOLE IN HIS SLEEP....LOL |
| DR. MIMI | Unrecorded Date
MURUDI
How can u say to the poor girl.."dont be so naive"?..I'd say she has shown remarkable maturity for her age given that shes probably a little girl going to High school.I see more naive adults in here than her.
TALLMAN
what is this defence arguement stragedy u bring.Saying the Islam needs three witnesses?Thats ridiculous..his own daughter saw her lively.Lets say if she were to burst the door open and confront them?Would he still have a case to plea?Please dont hide under Islam Laws...the issue here is the traumatisation of the poor girl.
and the UNLTIMATE BETRAYAL OF THE MARRIAGE AND GOD'S LAW.It doesn't matter the woman is his wife..the world around the girkl and her mother do not know so its clearly an adultry.
ALTWAN
I can only say get a life for yourself..you pig sadistic jovennistic male shame.....
SOME1
i think u are one of the sane smart guys in
here.Good job.
CLEOPATRA
You have a good point that is not understood in here..."the use of the bed that is an ultimate line cross-over.Please remind these people...?DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH?
Finally to safiya
I think you should wait for your mom to return and rest herself.Then tell her the whole deal.And...did you catch a good glimpse of the woman bitch?If you did-you and your mom should go there and kick her ass...!!!!!! |
| TALLMAN | Unrecorded Date
DR.MIMI:
You missed th point and that was out of context. That paragraph you picked was to Samia who said according to Islam he should be stoned to death. Whether you like it or not that's not how Islam deals wiyh affairs like this. In Islam, you need four witnesses to stone some1. Sorry if you don't like that but I didn't write the Islamic Sharia. It was there over a thousand years before I came to this world. I hope this clears the smoke.
You said "I can only say get a life for yourself..you pig sadistic jovennistic male shame..... "
Answer: Read and try to comprehend before you indsult. |
| DR MIMI | Unrecorded Date
TALLMAN
OK..POINT TAKEN...DAMN |
| ReaLdeaL | Unrecorded Date
Safiya:
Old Cats drink Milk Too,,, |
| AABO AXMED | Unrecorded Date
Nayaa safiya ma adigi baa? Naa iskoolkii maad Ugoyse marlabaad? Mawali beenti baa wadaa? Sootaan cable-kii jaray, Mawali soap opera aad daawaneysaa. caawaan ku sugi, ileen adaa naagahaygii kaa joogi waayeene, is diyaari waa (your turn to please me)
PS:caawa aan kuu cuudaynayaa ee is carfi. |
| gurey1 | Unrecorded Date
SAFIA AHMED
Asalaamu Aleeykum
GABADHII KADIDAY SHANQADHA QOLKII DHEXDIISA AHEED
BAAYO waxaan ku oran lahaa mardanbe ha qaldamin.haday kutiri hooyo odayga inoo ilaali oo dhaq dhaqaaqiisa lasoco ayana baab waaye.laakiin laba looma kala eexdo waligaa,oo waalabada kudhalay.adiga meel qaldan yaad kahad leeysaa goob iyo goor khaldan.waxaad kudhex jirtaa meel ciriiri ah.qofkii dadka daba gala oo jecel inuu wax walba ogaado aakhir adoogiis aas dalaq usoo dhahaa oo dabaalanooyo indian ocean.waxaa laakiin jirto adiga ma waxaad aragtay odayga kashiisa oo ku dhex jirto mooyaha eedadaa!!!!! oo waliba xurbis culus mehaas kasocdo!! mise shanqadh lee aadmaqashay? warkaada macada.odayga daka dhahaayo hala dilo mayagaa waydiiyay in uu horta qabo qofta iyo in uu tuuranaayo bas? yaan lafudu daan wax aan lahubin,SAFIYA malaga yaabaa in adiga wax isu kaasawireen maadaama aad gabaryartahay hooyana kula dardaarantay,oo abahaa sxb ba diis oo rag ah isla markaana caadi uugu yimid aad dumar mooday oo sheeydaan kuu bedelay dheesha.bal warkaada cadee intaana kula talinin waakabaxay. |
| Kusseey | Unrecorded Date
AABA AXMED
looooool ar SAfiye markee duleelka kaa daabaneysay maxaa qoorsagaaro ugu qaban weyday na
Fiiri ayaantaan soup opera wuu i dhaafay ee XAgee la marayaa ..fiiri galabta ma ii daawan kartaa Young & Restless imtaxaan aan leeyahay marka hadii kale ii duuub yaah...Jerry springerka yareeso hee duqa
Aabo xalay kii Jerry Springer joogay oo luga yar yaraa adi muu ahaa oo gar maleetiga ahaa..oo waji muufada ahaa ...oo shaatigiisa qaanjeerta badnaa waraa sii waaye adi markii iimaaneysid showyaasha dharka labadaanyada geeso nooh...ama feero kabkabka dhab ku sii nooh
caala kuli xaal ha'iga xaajinin ee mardanbe adoo saas u yaala jerry spring ha imaan yaah |
| Xaali | Unrecorded Date
Gurey1,maxaad ninka cudur dar ugu raadineeysa? Odayga haaduu naag keensada qolkii xaaskiis maqneed, ma sharaf buu uu hayaa afadaas? Fadlan taa ka jawaab.
Naagta la keenay haduu rabo xalaal haku qabo, asaga xaq uma laha meesha uu afadiisa/Safiya hoyadeed kula dhaxo inuu cid kale keeno. Mu kireesto meel. He is not only a cheater, but cheap and selfish also.......a classic dickhead!!!!! |
| gurey1 | Unrecorded Date
Asalaamu Aleeykum
to:XAALI
BAROORTU ORGIGA KAWEEN
Waxaan jeclahay in aa qadariyo suaashaada,aad itiri ka jawaab.arinta laga hadlayaa maha sharaf iyo sharaf la aan ee waa ma xaqbaa mise waa xaqdaro.taasna hada ma go aamin karoo SAFIYA inama aysan siin warbixin laxiriirta xaalada kusaabsan tuhunka sheebka,iyo sida dhabta ah ee ay wax u aragtay oo tafatiran.hadaba xaali yeey abaayo amaa arintaada aysan aheen sharaf gogol haweeneey laheed oo laga dumiyay qaabkeey ugogashay ee amaa waxkale jiraan oo baroortu orgiga kaween tahay.mida kale safiya waxba ma oranayo latalin ah ilaa eey iga soo jawaabto suaalaheeyga qoraalkeeygii koobaad ku xusnaa.waad kumahad santahay akhriskaada waakabaxay. |
| MAD MAC | Unrecorded Date
Muriidi is right. This is not Safias business. Safia chill out. This is between your father and your mother. I'm not defending the act - but what I'm saying is that your meddling in it will do more harm than good. And the damn bed is just a piece of furniture, so let's stop giving it some special symbology, like it was Mecca or something. Approximately half of all spouses stray at some time. I'm not saying it's right, but I am saying that we shouldn't be overly judgemental about it. None of us have been nominted for sainthood. I'm also saying that what goes on between a man and a woman is their business and not for the rest of the planet to indulge in. |
| Xaali | Unrecorded Date
Gurey1, waad ku mahadsantahay jawaabtaada.
Safiya, waxaa na weydiisay in waa hooyadeed uu sheegto arrinta iyo in kale.
Aniga, sidaan uu arko, 'falka odayga lagu tuhmay, waxaaba ka horeya, arriinta ah guriga ma uu keeni kara haweeney kale,islaantiiso maqan. Safiya, waa inay qodobka ah in naag kale guriga la keenay ee hoyadeed uu sheegto, iyado marka hore tafaatirin falka ee aragtay markii ee qolka waalidiga fiirisay. Baroorta orgiga kama weynee waa innaan cudur dar loo helin fal kasto qaldan.
MadMac, I don't think you can empathize with the situation. If you are what you claim to be a White man, I know then what 'the white man's preception of prosmicuity is'....just look how you guys tolerate premarital/extramarital sex and incest!!!!
And yes, certain spaces should be off limits....the sanctity of marriage has to be respected,if it is not respected people have to take responisbility for their actions. Safia should tell her Mom that another woman was brought to her bedroom, if Safia doesn't do that she is contributing to the humilation of her mother.
Mr. "veteran" stick to your boom/ka-boom war stories!! |
| MAD MAC | Unrecorded Date
Xaali
Imagine this scenerio. She tells her mother. Mom confronts dad and dad beats the living •••• out of her. Now, in addition tothe emotional pain of having been betrayed there's the physical pain and subsequent intimidation she has to live with. You and I know this kind of thing happens all the time in lots of different societies.
Or how 'bout this scenerio. Daughter tells mom. Mom tells Dad. Dad exacts revenge on daughter.
Don't like that one. How 'bout this one. Daughter tells mom, mom thinks daughter is lying. Mom is pissed at daughter for "lying" and dad is pissed at daughter for telling the truth.
If she's lucky we have this scenrio. Daughter tells mom, mom confronts dad, mom and dad get divorced. Dad is pissed at daughter - maybe forever. Mom is depressed. Daughter subsequently blames self over breakup (even though it wasn't really her fault).
You see my point here. I'm not saying that sanctity of the marriage shouldn't be respected. What I am saying is that it's not the daughters place to enfore that sanctity.
Now while I agree with you that I don't regard extramarital sex as a sin (as oppossed to adultery) that doesn't mean I'm condoning what the father did. It's just not the daughters business and she gets involved at great risk. |
| lover girl | Unrecorded Date
Safiya
I say tell your mother about this but not while she is back in somalia wait till she comes back...after that it is up to her whether she decides to leave or stay with your father and forgive his cheathing ways***but you owe this to your mother girl!! Good luck sis. |
| Caraweelo | Unrecorded Date
Safiyo-
I am so sorry for you-
If what you say is true- and this human being - your father- is cheating on your mother- in her own house- while she is away. TELL YOUR MOTHER. He deserves no respect. If he had kept his "affairs" out of the house- maybe he would deserve respect. If he had kept his pants zipped- maybe he would have deserved respect- After what he did- He deserves no RESPECT.
TELL your dad- you saw him- Tell your mom- What happens- ie. the consequences- are not your concern. You have to be honest to your self. If you do not tell- and he repeats his actions- how will you live with yourself? How will you look at your mother's eyes? WHAT ABOUT HER HONOR? She is a grown woman- she will decide if she wants to sty with him or leave.
They are the adults and what they do is not your fault. My dear, its not your position to salvage their marriage. My goodness- you have your own trauma to deal with- how your father's behavious will affect your future relationships with men. THIS IS NOT YOUR FAULT.
Silence is leads to worse things.
Honesty is ALWAYS the best policy. |
| khalil | Unrecorded Date
Safiya Ahmed:
You made me sick to the bones. What the hell is wrong with yuo girl? Are you insane?.Is that your buesiness?. And how about if your Mom is doing same thing down is at Ayeeyo's place?. Look you are a stupid kid who knows nothing in life. This is non of your freaking business whatsoever.your business is to watch out what is between your legs, not your dad's. Dad has every rights to cheat MoM. After all, Dad Ahmed needs to release some pain and Mom was not avaible. And hey you stupid little girl, you would tell your Mom. And your Mom will lose the damn dad . And the woman u saw with dad and dad will be just chilling out. In short please don't post such silly thing. and leave your dad the hell alone. I am sure if your were a boy instead of stupid girl, you would have felt happy for the Dad.
khalil. |
| Muriidi | Unrecorded Date
War dadku ma waasheen, ma waxaa la siku ogaa reer dhisan ha la dumiyo mise dhidibada ha loo adkeeyo. waa maxay hooyo ha loo sheego, oo hadday hooyo iyo aabe arrintaa isku furaan ma waxaad ka taliseen wanaag mise xumaan, wax la hubo oo cadna mesha ma yaalaan.
Yaa og odeygu inuu istiimaayay kaliya ee uusan beerta dhex dabaalan.
War yarta ha u kaba galinina. Bisinka |
| khalil | Unrecorded Date
Arrawelo:
This is was the worst advice you given out that i have seen so far. I always enjoyed your post. but not this one. after all, you turned out to be femininst watchdog. Look, what you don't know is according to Dad Ahmed, the damn house, the absent MOM, this freaking kid are belong to him, he and he alone. Because of that Dad Ahmed was just minding his business. He didn't tresspass any other people's property nor did he brought shame to his kids. And if he would have afraid of any living human being, God forbid, that would be the MOM. And MoM is at ayeeyo's place. Thus you shouldn't been grilling/flamming Dad Ahmed in that way because he only brought his new girl friend to the damn house . Why any grown up man would afraid of his kids?. Since when spying parents become kids' business?. |
| Sumaya | Unrecorded Date
Salaama Caleykum
Dear: Bro and Sister
I would like to clear for one thing, Islam Allows men to bring his wife's house even if her married another wife To prove that you can read why Allaah Revealed Surah Tahrim when the prophet sleep when of his slave Women one of the houses of Hafsa and she find out that prophet did that and she told all the another wife’s.
Allaah said that
“ O Prophet! Why do you ban (for yourself) that which Allah has made lawful to you, seeking to please your wives? And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”
But when it comes Feminist Watchdog as Bro Khalil said they talk without knowledge may Allaah guide us. Men he is the owner of his house he can do what ever he wants by the way I mean Xalaal way, Allaah knows best. If I wrote wrong things
I ask allaah forgiveness it’s from Shaydaan and my soul |
| Caraweelo | Unrecorded Date
Khalil- brother- how can you say that? How can you say it is OK for a MARRIED man to bring a girlfriend to his bed- the halaal bed he shares with his wife. How?
It is not "fear" of his children that should stop him from acting so miserably- it should be the respect for his wife. Allah allows him to have multiple wives- up to four. If he can not keep his pants zipped- he should at least marry the second woman! And then take her to HER own house. Even in traditional societies- when a man marries a second wife, he does not consumate the marriage in his first wife's bed!
This is not "feminism" it is "common sense" and "basic respect".
Stop and think- Khalil- a married man fornicating in his wife's bed? Does that seem "right" to you.
In Islam- his deed is punishable by DEATH. This is ADULTERY! No if or buts about it. I am not saying he should be "put to death"- I am not pro-capital punishment- But he should face the consequences- least of all which is -"embarrasment" |
| BEWILDED AUDIENCE | Unrecorded Date
Mad Mac
Imagine this Sceniro-
Daughter tells mom-mom understandly is infuriated and confronts the dad...A posiible Fight follows-(i would personally prefer-Mom to just shoot him-but its not me)-Resentments -evaluation of the situation-results-and a slight chance of making up-daughters conscious is cleared-despite the excruciating pain-but-daughters gains a trust in father again-alas saving her the ordeal of judging her future relationship based on this...and they end up forgiving..but not forgeting...thats cool..right...thats my sceniro...
This is my favorite part:
A CANDID LOOK AT YOU MR MAD MAC-
Clearly U are a male;occassionally charming ,a possible candinate for a Politic career,a great master of manipulation,and an extremely self obsorbed personality-(the kind that demands attention or runs from commitment or resposibility-but when faced with a problem-first initial reaction is-"who should i blame'?)
Oh yes there is this one more features u have;i sat down trying to picture what profession would benefit those infamous qualities other that a politician ofcourse:So i though:YES!!!!!!!!
You could be a part of BILL CLINTON SATFF..those guys WITH white a cheap Armani suits who so unfortunately work for white house:So these guys face the press their adamant denial of the president's cheating.They are alledgedly "image sustainers'...Imagine that-They Uprightly face the press and say.."Athough we do not Condone his actions we think its not entirely his fault and we are in a process of making things right"...yaaah!!Then they continue...well we can always BLAME LINDA TRIP....HA!WHAT A NERVE...I AGREE SHE WAS A WITCH...but lets not float away the subject...its cheating...adultry..or whatever...
But above all this mad mac i must just say i admire your viscious skills of confusing your audience.In an experience mannerism you seem to manage to Vaguely support something that is clearly controversial-but...this is the but--you cleverly remind us you "dont condone it"..yet you tap your blessings on the issue...its amazing...you made ME gasp...really!!!!!An example; you clearly indicated that u dont find extra marital sinful-conveiently bracketing that u dont condone adultry-and still maintain its not a sin.Maybe you imply we should call adultry-"extra marital sex"..its more fanciable?Or less Eyes raising.So am left TO SAY do you have anotably new found defination of adultry as Bill Clinton found of sex?Spare us this male driven Synopsis..its ..Boring.....!!!!!!
Maya Angelou said "if people tell you they are not saints,believe them,or they say they are adultress or mean;believe them,because they know themselves better than you"...Mac..I do believe you are neither a saint nor a figure in the pillar of Sainthood.....!!!!!Thank you......!!! |
| gurey1 | Unrecorded Date
TO:XAALI
Asalaamu Aleeykum
waa ka gaabsaday moowduucaan
Baayo markaan arkay in SAFIYA aysan kasoo jawaabin suaalo aan waydiiyay ee kuxusan qoraal keeyga koobaad,ayaan dareemay arin ah inaan gaabsado.sababtana adiguba iska fahan.midakale waxaan ahay nin dhalin yaro ah oo jecel in uusan qofna khald kagalin.waad kumahad santahay akhriska qoraalkaan waakabaxay |
| MAD MAC | Unrecorded Date
Bewildered Audience
Adultery (Random House College Dictionary). Voluntary sexual intercourse of a married person with someone other than his or her lawful spouse. Hence you will notice this is NOT the same thing as extramarital sex - which fits the definition of fornication. An Islamic sin (which I do not consider a sin) I have committed many times over.
That having been clarified, let's move on to the Clinton Staff insult. I have been called many things on this net, Ku'faar, Liar, shithead, motherfucker, but never has anyone insulted me like this. You have gone too far. This is an insult almost worthy of provoking physical violence.
Furthermore, I am very consistent, I do not obfuscate, and I do not lie. The reason my rationals do not always make sense to you are because we speak different languages - culturally. You see everything through the refraction of Islamic thought. I do not. So it's inevitable that you will interpret things differently than I. |
| Caraweelo | Unrecorded Date
Sumaya-
In the guise of Islam- you are now advocating ADULTERY????? and quoting hadith??!!!!
Ya Satir Ya Rabb! |
| khalil | Unrecorded Date
Arawelo:
First may i suggest you to just relax. And then take deep breath to let all your nerval system to ease the tension and all this up tight and anger. I am suggesting this because you seem so upset in a such way that your feminism mentality reigns over your head.
Ok. For now you, you released some tension, let's get started. Shall we?.
You raised many interesting points in two sentence. You asked me how could i say it was ok for a married to bring his mistress to his home. And also you talked Islam's legal punishment of a married person who commits this act, respect, polygomy, common sence and all that damn thing that one cares to mention.
Well dear, first let me remind you that the point wasn't if Dad Ahmed was legally or morally wrong. Nor was it the damn bed you seem to be obsessed with. The whole point was "if this dummy girl would tell her MoM or not"?. Am i right?. Ok. you advised to this character to TELL her MOM. And if i looked all your reasons they all boil down to this man didn't show any "respect" to his wife by bringing his mistress to his wife's xalaal bed. Here I am lost right with this so-called "respect". I guess the word "respect" has two meaning towards male and female species. And this is where i, as male, can't make the cut to understand those skirt wearers', they call female community, definiton of "respect". This would lead me the following questions.If man decided to cheat on his wife, why does he worry where to get laid his victim whether it is his wife's bed, motel, or the victim/mistress's place?. Would it be any different if the action take place a motel and Zahara saw Dad Ahmed doing his dirty business right in a motel?. another Question is why women take it personal when their husbands cheat on them?. Do you know that as "Some1" wrote down, a husband can love his wife and still can cheat on her. I don't know why but it is the ay it goes males community's. And for your info every man cheat and polygomy is crime here in Westren World.
To conclude my long boring blah blah by explaining how could i said it was ok. i said so because to me the last thing Uncle Ahmed would worry would be where to victimize his victim--whether it is his wife's bed, the chicken, the bathroom. And goes without saying is the mistress used all of MOM's sexy dresses and beauty tools. And i was "duq" Ahmed who offerd her all those things to make her look like the MOM. And i don't have to tell you know motel costs a lot to that duq Ahmed's pocket. so the more he saves the place is beter.
i hope that clarifies something lol. ;).
khalil |
| Nuura | Unrecorded Date
Careweelo, Sumaya has a very limited knowledge about Islam. I have seen several postings by her whereby on the one hand she is adovacting Islam, and on the other hand is expressing malice towards others for no apparent reason, except to show her prejuidce and fears.
Islam, is a whole religion that addresses every aspect of the correct way that a society should conduct its affairs. Allah subaxaan wa tacaala, in his infinite wisdom has told us what is best for us. It is for each of us to follow the correct path without putting down anyone or seeking self-agrandizement and show-off. |
| Anon | Unrecorded Date
Khalil, are you a retard?
Your logic is soooooooooo screwed up.
Man, don't you understand "respect for space"
See if somali men had a respect for space Somalia would have been a peaceful country. It is because of your obsession with instant gratification anywhere that destroys families and nations.
I suspect Safiya Ahmed's scenario is a hypothetical one, but it raised issues that we hear everyday in the community. The mother should be told. Problems should be talked about and not covered. |
| Sumaya | Unrecorded Date
Salaama Caleykum
Dear: Nuura
May Allaah forgive you, calling me show off, Walaalo you can advice me if did wrong as we are human, i never put down anyone just telling thruth
instead of pass judgment on me correct with knowledge.
TO: Caraweelo
Abaayo i was expressing my basic knowlage about
Islam, I don't me to offended anyone here we are
bro/ sister keep in mind. |
| Muriidi | Unrecorded Date
Khaliil,
lololol, you think Arawelo is obsessed with the bed and not the action that took place on it. you made me laugh bro.
Arawelo,
Why are you being a prejudist?, do you know if the woman is a "Qudbasiro". For the benefit of doubt let's say she is, do you expect uncle Ahmed to pay for a motel when his first wife is no longer at home and the bed is vacant, it's a matter of replacement. If the first wife left, then the 2nd one takes her place temporarily and I don't he is offending anyone.
Cool down |
| Caraweelo | Unrecorded Date
Khalil- excuse me! I mistook you for a rational person. |
| Anonymous | Unrecorded Date
Carawelolololol
anon can we say your brain is compounded with absolute stupididty---hypothetically speaking ofcourse |
| bewilded audience | Unrecorded Date
MAD MAC
Well i do sincerely feel bad for comparing you with Bill Clinton-..it was sort of the best parallel thing i could come up with...sorry...
But..i am still enraged at your persistance-Surely the defination you provided about adultry is not in question but your whole idea..is simply PATHETIC.....am sorry to sound so monsterous but its a side i find in myself well reading your so called postings.Now let me see if i am right...you clearly say extra marital sex-is fornication-and adultry is the voluteerly sexual intercourse of blah blah blah...whatever...my point is..okey lets say i was not predicated by beliefs of culture...lets imagine that......so the key word is "adultry"....so in order for it to be called adultry certainly it should mean a "a broken trust of sexual experience between-either boyfriends-married couple-..or whatever-..so thats the point here...would u think extra marital to be sinful?...no perhaps i should say...extra out-of wed-lock sex-or out of relationship-sex??Is this making any sense?
Point is....u are inadvertently contradictory and bored-with a need a raise opinons that disrupts the majority stand point.I suggest u refer to your culture or religeon for furthure clarifications....
Note:
The material is not personally intended to absorb.Any offences taken is highly regreted and appologised...!!!!!!!!!!! |
| bewilded audience | Unrecorded Date
MAD MAC
Well i do sincerely feel bad for comparing you with Bill Clinton-..it was sort of the best parallel thing i could come up with...sorry...
But..i am still enraged at your persistance-Surely the defination you provided about adultry is not in question but your whole idea..is simply PATHETIC.....am sorry to sound so monsterous but its a side i find in myself well reading your so called postings.Now let me see if i am right...you clearly say extra marital sex-is fornication-and adultry is the voluteerly sexual intercourse of blah blah blah...whatever...my point is..okey lets say i was not predicated by beliefs of culture...lets imagine that......so the key word is "adultry"....so in order for it to be called adultry certainly it should mean a "a broken trust of sexual experience between-either boyfriends-married couple-..or whatever-..so thats the point here...would u think extra marital to be sinful?...no perhaps i should say...extra out-of wed-lock sex-or out of relationship-sex??Is this making any sense?
Point is....u are inadvertently contradictory and bored-with a need a raise opinons that disrupts the majority stand point.I suggest u refer to your culture or religeon for furthure clarifications....
Note:
The material is not personally intended to absorb.Any offences taken is highly regreted and appologised...!!!!!!!!!!! |
| MAD MAC | Unrecorded Date
Bewildered Audience
OK, let me clarify. Would I say cheating on your girlfriend is wrong? Yes. Would I say having sex with your girlfriend is wrong? No. Now sex with your girlfriend is extramarital sex - because you are not married. I hope that's clear now.
And of course adultery is wrong. You vowed to take this as your one and only partner and now you're breaking your contract. That's always wrong in any context.
Hope I'm clear as an azure sky in brightest summer now. |
| khalil | Unrecorded Date
Muriidi:
Definitely Pal. you got that one damn right!. As anybody's short-sighed grandma would probably see, the sister was more focused on the "bed" rather than the "action.". Not only that pal muriidi, she said Zahara's old man showed disrespect only when he conducted his dirty business in MoM's bedroom. And that is where i am lost in the women's logic. As you know, in the men's logic, the question would have been how could "duq" Ahmed commit such forbiden action--adultry, not how could he bring home to his girlfriend?.
Arrawelo:
Irreaslic? hmmmmm. of course dear, i am being one. but hey i got the feeling i am not the only one. Any free-thinking man would be one. Otherwise, i guess, things would have been better when it comes how men and women would get along. khalil. |
| khalil | Unrecorded Date
Hey Anon:
Am I retard?. i guess you meant if i am mently retarded?. if that is what you meant, I say "Not really ! but you were very very close". My brain fully developed its cells. And it was going bigger and bigger day afer day as i became avid reader.
However, my mental processor crashed the other day and i am Diagnosed being "physcopathed fella". So yeah you were kind of close.
But please note i am neither devil's advocate.I guess MAD MAC-the gaal- is playing devil's advocate here. Nor am i retarded.I am only phychopath.
By the way I 've been just wondering if we are on same boat-- i mean if you are my fela mental patient ;-).
khalil. |
| MAD MAC | Unrecorded Date
Khalil
You remind me of the line is the Movie Gross Point Blank when she says to the main charecter (who's an assasin) "You're a psychopath." And he says, "No, no, no Psychopaths kill for no reason, I kill for money, it's a job. No wait, that didn't sound right" |
| . | Unrecorded Date
MAD MAC
I'm sick of your crap. |
| bewilded audience | Unrecorded Date
MAD MAC
Okey this is Bewilded audience again...care to have some coffee?perhaps tea or a glass of orange juice....now sit down and LISTEN...(Scene 1 chapter three....I brush my hair to my shoulders and place my hands on my heeps...confused...)
Bewilded audience;Now ...LISTEN....enough with this phase of pure contradictions...your clarifications is accepted with an extension of deep misunderstandings....so cheers to our indifference......Voila!!!!!1
mad mac:......mmmm sigh's in conceedment...Cheers!!!.....LOL
(bewilded audience exits and goes shopping.....she stalls and jumps with joy and terribly looking foward to the long walk beach...bare footed...) |
| MAD MAC | Unrecorded Date
Thursday
Then don't read it - the same advice I give to woman who don't like Playboy.
Bewildered
Now It's my turn to be bewildered. |
| BEWILDED AUDIENCE | Unrecorded Date
MADMAC.....LOL
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL |
