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How do measure manhood and bravery???

SomaliNet Forum (Archive): Somali Women's Forum: Archive (Mar. 2000 - August 2000): How do measure manhood and bravery???
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The Equalizer

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I opted to talk about this topic ‘cause our view of bravery and manhood is very different from that of the West and needs to put under the lens of the microscope. If you listen to most of the Somalis, being a brave person means stealing, killing, raping, and the list goes on and on. On the other hand, when you come to the West, the qualities of bravery and manhood that we admire so much and we’re proud of it is an unspeakable and a shameful act. People, in the West, tend to distance themselves as far as possible from such individuals. But, before I go any further I would like to clarify something so that there won’t be any misunderstanding. When I use the pronoun ‘We,’ I’m talking about Somali people in general. So, please don’t jump on my throat and accuse me of being one of those individuals. Now, let’s pick up from where we left. In the West, people don’t even want to be seen or associated with these bums and good-for-nothing individuals. Of course, some of you will even deny the existence of such individuals in Somalia out of nationalism feelings. Others will argue that even in the West you will come across bums. That’s absolutely true. There’re bums everywhere you go in the world. The only difference is the way they are treated and dealt with though. In the West, bums are looked down on whereas in Somalia they are looked up to.

Having said all of this, naturally the question arises of what we should do about it. I think we should start from our own houses. In other words, we should get rid off of all those scum that are the sole reason of our being displaced and spread around the world. Secondly, we should establish an Islamic state that rules according to the laws of Allah. In doing so, we will not only reacquire our long lost honor, but we will also put in leadership positions very capable and qualified leaders. Of course, these leaders will be chosen based on their qualifications and not their clan affiliation. In this way, we will also strip ourselves off the robes of tribalism and bury it once and all. We will then go back to rebuild our country and social fabric, of course all this with the help of Allah and before we know it we will become a world power to ponder with. Eventually, with the help of Allah, we will spread Islam around the globe.


May Allah bless us all and strengthens our faith (Amen!!!)

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Said Jama

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That is your definition of bravery not the definition of the majority of the somalis.THINK FIRST BEFORE YOU TALK NONSENSE.

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MAD MAC

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Equalizer
Bold words. But how to achieve what you want to achieve? That is the question. Of course, every country wants to have qualified and honest leaders, but none of us get them. And I don't think the moryan are truly respected. Maybe in some circles some develop reputations as violent men and thus are "well known" as aggressive gunmen. Sometimes people will kow-tow to such types. But I'm not sure respect is the right word. Anyway, they're a poison and will have to be eliminated once Somalia establishes a government. So what do you have in mind? How to build this Islamic government? And forget spreading it. Let people come to their own conclusions. You wouldn't want new crusaders coming to Somalia to spread God knows what, so don't plan on going to other countries to spread Islam - at least not through violence. You want to use pursuasion go right ahead.

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komaande

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Said jama:
Well said bro.

Equalizer:
Somali wax kama ogid ee nac nacda nagala tag. Horta afsomali ma qori kartaa? West-ga aa maskaxda kaaga xaaray.

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ahmadeou

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Equalizer:

Good try brother! but guess what? you got it all wrong!. I mean C'moon gime a freaking brake!.If we don't agree with the defition of the topic, is there anything to discuss?.

As said Jama said. Your definiton is only your definition and for that reason your arguement is flawn, all it premise undermined and dumped to the dust bin!.

take it easy and no hard feeling man!.

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T-GIRL

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Is it just me or am I seeing CHINESE.....?

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Michigan

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you measure you man hood on da size of your THING....n'U test your bravery by..........

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YIB

Thursday, June 15, 2000 - 03:12 am
Equalizer

Your points are intresting except that you seem to be overlooking the biggest thugs and scumbags of all, they are the Islamic ones. Mooryaans are giving way but those big-bearded-blockheaded killers will linger around as long as we live and beyond, that is if we let them.

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GIRLiNTERRUPTED

Thursday, June 15, 2000 - 08:26 am
I think the measure of manhood should souley be the size of his ego.Men are generally egotistic....ooh sorry i mean manhood is generally egotistic-excessive pride and occasionally unnecessary display of testatrones(hope the spellings is right still learning my spellings anyway)-these qualities are very unattractive!!! But equalizer...question? your first paragraph is subjectly incoherent- grammerly inconclusive and suggestively dis-organised-i suppose!!!!!!!!!!!

But- again i was fascinated at your approach on coming up with a theory extract of solutions concerning our late country!(am smilling while writing this) anywayz-i was saying the theory of new somali is plausible,challenging and i suppose its a start!!!I was SEMI- pleased.My reason to my semi-satisfied state!!You said somalia should be under Islam law !! I have nothing against that concept its variably appropriate i guess, a sort of a nice clean protocals to follow.BUT....i am only against that cuz i plan to become FIRST somali woman president.AND ... you know its impossible if ISLAM LAW existed....right!!! and then there is the women's oppression and second citizen rank in issues you know same deal-BUT- i wont complain on that i dont want to be called GAAAL' or christian..ha! i'll just keep my opinons to my self!!! ok....thanx thats all !!!
your's muzzled
GIRLiNTERRUPTED

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Totall Troubled mind

Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 09:18 am
You bitches don't know Sh!t.

What you do know is this: Piss.

DO you get my drived.

Ya'll probally using fibrators,

You don't got the stuff.
For a man you are not enough.
You a feminist,
a big old pessimist.
Who grows old without any kids.

I'm sorry to say this but this is true.
I know it, he knows it, and most of all You know it.

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Anonymous

Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 09:19 am
drift drived

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Anonymous

Sunday, June 18, 2000 - 07:43 am
totally troubled mind..
speaking of myself...am not old....i dont have kids...am still in schookl (which ya ass should be too) and am a femisnist...yes a feminist..but a feminist who plans to marry a guy with a future (not a bum) like you- and i'll have all the things i want...kids- career -a temporary husband-(just need him for the kids)- and then i kick him out...so shut up bum..crack addict.....looser....and examin yourself?what have you acomplished?
BUM!!!

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Trouble..double

Monday, June 19, 2000 - 06:46 am
So actually you are saying.

You still in school( at the age of 41)
you still didn't get any men(okay a blow up doll)
You got the kids(kidnapped them)
and you are a feminist(man-hater because they reject you all your life)

you are also saying that you are a Bum loving crack addict who hates her own guts.

and working at burger King.


well You go girl.

Some advice from the 'bum':
Pluck ya mustash.

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MOH'D

Monday, June 19, 2000 - 06:59 am
TROUBLE MIND

YA IZ A RETARD...A PATHETIC WOMEN BASHER LOOSER..DAT MEAN YA AINT GETTING LAID....DAT MEAN YA PROBABLY A TOOTHLES FAT..BALD...UNDEAODRANTED..SUCKER..WITH NO GUIDE IN LIFE ACCEPT TO FIND HIM DA NEXT MEAL IN DA BURGER KING..YA HEARD ME...LOOSER!!

ANONYMOUS,

SISTER FORGET DIS NIGGA...HE'S SEXUALLY FRUSTRATED

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Troubled..mind

Monday, June 19, 2000 - 12:37 pm
Yeah probally with a fat ass, no man getting pidgeon, who needs to pluck her mustash like you.
Gezz not.

Ya probally have a fibrator with the earthquake setting. Damn all that fat blubbering all around.

Blag..
Blag..

puke lies on the ground.

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hebel

Monday, June 19, 2000 - 08:41 pm
by how many men did he beat them up?

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Troubled..mind

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 02:19 am
Say what????

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Anonymous

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 04:00 am
TROUBLEMIND

YA GAY YA WEAK YA NEED A DICK FAGGOT!!

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Troubled..mind

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 10:38 am
Yeah and you the right person to talk too!

PLEASE!

I aint a girl dressed up as a man and using a double sided dildo to get around.

LIKE YOU!

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nasib

Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 02:32 am
the perfect way to measure your manhood is to :
Compare yourself to me !
I am such a perfect speciecm of MAN that people should taske me as a tremplate or model if you like, for you to no only test your manhood but copy me and become more of a man..
My e mail is provided any queries please do not hesistate

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