     Ali | Saturday, June 24, 2000 - 03:42 am
what will you advice me, if l say l am a muslim man and somali, loved these girl for seven years and bring her from UTANGA REFUGEE COMP as my wife, and been waiting until her dream come true so we could get married, but when her dream come true which was to bring her father from keneya my nightmare start, the bold man who was calling himself sheihk ask me what is my tribe because he never know before when he was in come and he did not ask me the time when we were in comp, but today all those guy's who were after her in U.S.A those one whom she refuse to give them chance and she stick with me , those guy's who also say they are muslim have find easy way to attack me and they used the Father whom l help to come over to america. anyway he say finnaly he will kill himself if his doughter married MIDGAAN.
Well what can youi advice me l am about to do something and l don't want to loose my AAKHIRA and do shaytan thing so my brother's and sister somali and islaam help me and give me some advaice because after all l waited these girl for seven years and l am almost 42 without a wife so give me advaice or l take the old man to AAKHIRA with me. thank you |
| coolman. | Saturday, June 24, 2000 - 05:35 am
Bro Ali.
If the girl..is willing to sacrifice.. everything for you.. and wants to get married to you... ignore the father.. Islam has given her to you.. without the old guy sticking his nose around... It is all legal.. I understand trully.. your pain...The advice I can give you is... Allah made women plenty.. from all nationalities.. if you are having proplems with these ignorants... bro... settle with a nonsomali muslim woman.. believe me.. you will never regret.. Or.. may be how about.. helping one from your tribe... a poor girl.. somali guys.. wouldn't get married to..?.. You might give a great economic and personal advantage to that poor girl.. and her family...?.. Not that I am insensitive... to what I just said.. but it looks like.. we somalis despise each other.. Qabiil cool despises qabiil qansax.. you know how it goes.. it never stops...so brother.. it is not worth killing anybody for something you can solve...or killing yourself for that matter.. rag baa ilaahey kaa dhigey.. ee do what you can.. bro.. |
| Jeego | Saturday, June 24, 2000 - 10:28 am
I am sorry Brother I feel your pain. But don't get angry if you do you lose. Your man enough to do the right thing, If you can win the Girl Fine go ahead make my day. I m not Midgaan bad I know what you have to go through? Look at the bright side all the New generation don't give a damn about Who is who and that is very positive. All Somali are sick who will put you different catogary>
Rememeber life was not meant to be easy
Midgaans are true somalians rest of Us low quality
dominant Tribes. |
| jamaaal4 | Saturday, June 24, 2000 - 06:40 pm
ali...if your girl really likes you she wouldnt give up...but if she did...well u should look after yourself man... |
| Anonymous | Saturday, June 24, 2000 - 07:14 pm
this is screwed uppppppppppppp!!why dont u marry out of somali forget seven years.....move onnnnn!and why didn't u invent a qabiil laaaf claim any qabiil u want?who knows u midgan?u can lie? |
| mudaneh | Sunday, June 25, 2000 - 01:09 am
Ali ,
saaxib adigu midgaan kee baad tahay? oo iyagaa isdhaamo baa la yiri,qaarbaa nasabka ku abtir sado,haddii aadse tahay kuwa dhabta oo asalkoodu iyaga is galo,waxaan ku oran lahaa,inanta aad wanaaga u qabatay,ha eedsiinin,inta ay nooshahayna
dhibaatada aad u geeysato ka bixi meeyso sidaas darteed tii alla ku sabir,oo mid kaleh oo kugu jil ah meelaha ka daydayo,oo idinkaaba dumar qurxoon leh baa la lahaaye?maxaad ka dooni iyada?
somali waa wada midgaan waxayna ku yihiin gaalka gaalka dhalay way u ogolyihiin inantooda adiga muslimka ahna way kuu diidayaan,dee mujtamici baa ina xukuma,mise waan ka go'naa dadkeeyni oo dhan? |
| jamaaal4 | Sunday, June 25, 2000 - 04:55 am
mudane
what u just said is painful but true |
| deeqa | Monday, June 26, 2000 - 07:49 am
Walaal Ali aad baan uga xumahay dhibka ku haysta, ilamana qummana in nin muslim khaalis ahi ku seego aakhiradiisa wax aan cudur daar lahayn. Teeda kale walaal fiiri oo u meel day ubadkaaga intii ay ku kori lahaayeen cuqdad iyo calool xumi maxaa kuu diiday in aad noloshaada u horto wixii ilmahaas berri wax u ugu yaal. Gacan qabadka aad gacan qabatay reerkaasna aad u niyaysato "fii sabiilu laah" Illaah ajar iyo xasanaad ha kaa siiyo. Ogow markasta ninkii la yimaada towbad suuban, oo markasta ilaah ka cabsada,sameeyana wixii rabbigay faray baa u dhow Rabbiga Suxaanahu wa Tacaalaa, ee rabbigay agtiisa ma taal nasab iyo midgaan. |
| Mariah | Monday, June 26, 2000 - 05:27 pm
I agree with coolman......Marry the girl cause is legal...xaga diinta..... |
| Anonymous | Friday, July 14, 2000 - 09:51 am
Forget About The girl, Move on with your life. Brother these somalis are still living in dark ages so forgive their ignorance. I am very sure you are are teriffic person we can see from your action. They are plenty of fish in the sea. |
| MWLP | Saturday, July 15, 2000 - 10:14 am
Mr. Ali:
I never thought Midgaan was a tribe name - tribe name in the sense that it is based line of fatherhood which started with the man Midgaan - perhaps I am ignorant to that effect. I always thought "Midgaan" was a discription used by the arrogant and ignorant "somaliweyn" to discreminate against hard working and decent individuals or families of their own. Anyway my brother, I think most of the contributors of this board gave you more than enough advice and the ball is on your court. However, I will like to add few lines to this list. Brother, there is no such thing as qabiil called Midgaan, Tumaal, Boon, Nasab dhiman, etc. I am sure all men/women are created equal infornt of Allah and if we assume these afformentioned adjectives as identities, the people who carry their stigma are no better or worst than those who call themselves Haawiyee, •••••••, IsXaaaq, Dir and Midhifle. I don't think you should give up on your girl solely because her father things you are second or third class citizen. You are not! You are who you make yourself to be. I don't suggest that you assume other tribal identities either - as some suggested. My brother, collective identity is usually used and weighted highly by individuals that couldn't make anything of themselves. Since they failed their individual identities, they resort to fictional characters and clan based realities - thus say I am "Reer Hebel" and we are kings and "nasab". Brother, don't hate the old man so much; he is doing what he knows the best which is mostly based on ignorance. Therefore, you should do what you know best. You know that you are no 2nd class character and you are entitle to marrying whom you so ever desire and desires you. It won't be an easy battle, but you should fight for you ground - provided your laddy is still standing by you. The worst defeat to justice is that facilitated by the "victums" of injustice.
MWLP |
| Nasir | Saturday, July 15, 2000 - 11:07 am
MWLP....Well said brother.... |
| ibrahim | Saturday, July 22, 2000 - 02:42 am
OBVIOUSLY the old man is a ungreatful bastard so if you this wamen is any better then him she properly would correct her old man as it is black and white to see that he is very wrong as for you life is larger then it seems and this is last thing you need in your life (some old ignorent git
ibrahim |
| muuse | Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 08:47 am
Walaal aad baan uga xumahay waxa ku haysta in kastoo aysan ahayn wax qabiil kusaabsan ilaahna cadeeyey bulshada ha horeeyso ama tan cusuba ha ahaatee inteeda badan aysan aaminsaneeyn waxaa xun laakiin midbaan kugu waa ninayaa saaxiib haday gabadhu ku rab to lakaasho walaalaheed adeeradeed iyo asxaab taada iyadoo gabadhu hadlayso in laiskugu kiin duceeyo waxaan qabaa in guuli ka dhalan karto waliba hadii aad tahay midgaan kuwa ilaahay kabaqa iskuna kalsoon hadii ehelkeedu isku raacaan xaqdaro haguursan ubadkaaga cuqubo haka galin soomaalida wanaagsan ama reermagaalka ah ama anigaba iga soo qaad niyada kama jecli in midgaan gabadheyda guursado laakiin hadii ay gabadhaydu rabto uuna ii yimaado waxaan ulatagayaa walaalahay kuwadiintaleh xaqa ma kabayrikaraan laakiin hadaan laii imaan hada waa saan jeclaa marka saaxiib waa wax soo jireen ahaa dad fiican iyo dadxunda waa leedihiin dad koo dhana waxay la yihiin wax ubilaaba nin waliba wuxuu kabaqayaa inuu isagu midgaanka kaguursado marka saaxiib habaqine dariiqaa mar adoo udanaynaya ubadkaaga bulshadana dariiq ay idin kaga dayato ufura wabilaahi towfiiq |
| Anonymous | Monday, July 31, 2000 - 01:15 am
Ali
Abowe, if the woman is still willing to get married then go for it. Why should the two of you be penalized because the old man is an ungrateful idiot? He's not going to kill himself anyway. That's just a tool he's using to manipulate the both of you.
If she's not then I would go to Somalia or Kenya and find a decent woman who would appreciate you. I've met lots of them there - good woman who are loyal and kind-hearted and would love to have a decent guy who treated them well. Good luck.
Don't let the old man get you down. If the woman truly cares for you she stay the course. Good luck Abowe. |
| koofi | Monday, July 31, 2000 - 07:42 pm
Ali sxb
aad aan uga xumahay jabka kugu dhacay laakiin adigu ma reer kuul beer baad tahay mise reer horogle mise daami?
haddaad sadexdaas qolo mid tahay anaa daris ila yihiin gabdho saddexdaas qolo ka kala dhashay oo ku raba ee kaalay guurso |
| qaloocow | Tuesday, August 01, 2000 - 05:00 pm
war koofigaan aqaanay miyaa mise,waa mid kale
war koofi maxaad sheegtay waxaad iiga warantaa
denmark,ninkan cabaadaya warkiisa ka bax,ma wuxuu
ka waayey gabdho reerka bahwayn "colloowe",nabsi baa haystee halkiisa ku daa....ninkan kula hadlaya
waa Qaloocow,maxamud colood diriye saaxiibkiis,war ninkii xaggee ku dambeeyey,fadlan aan iska war qabno hee,iga salaan ciyaalkii iyo
xaajiyo maryan |
| Anonymous | Saturday, August 05, 2000 - 12:50 am
brother ALI u can't marry the girl legally if the father is opposing your marriageto his daughter that according to islamic law.and if you iqnore then you will be making the same mistake as your fore fathers.you became midgan because they overlooked some code of behaviour.my advice is look for peoplewho will accept you as you are.otherwise you will subject others to pain &problems.take for example the girl you love to marry.you will cut her from her family. no one as a right to do that except a selfish person.now it only you who is hurt,but if you have your way you are going to hurt you so said lady ,brothers,sisters mothers ,aunts cousins&grandfathers ,mothers.for your help to bring them over to america you will be rewarded inshallah.but only if it was for the sake of humanity.if it was to impprese the girl then to marry her then you are what u are.do"t ransom people |
| SOMALI | Monday, August 07, 2000 - 06:31 pm
HEY THE LAST ANONYMOUS,SHUT THE F**K UP,YOU KNOW
NOTHING ABOUT RELIGION OR WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE IN
WAA ADIGOO KALE KUWA AAMINSAN QABIILKA IYO WAXAAN
SAL LAHAYN,AND YOU TELLING THE BROTHER YOU CAN'T MARRY HER, MA LA SOCOTAA IN HOOYADA LA BAXSADY AABAHAA,SO TELL ME ARE YOU IN XALAAL OR XAARAAN...WAXAAS OO KALE HA LA SOO SHIRTEGIN..TAKE
YOUR SH*T IDEA OUT OF THE FORUM AND TELL ME WHO ARE THE PEOPLE HE IS CAUSING THEM PAIN,JUST IGNORANT LIKE U...
BROTHER GO FOR IT MARRY HER IF SHE IS IN LOVE WITH YOU...DO NOT ASK PERMISSION NO ONE THIS IS AMERICA...AND ENJOY WITH HER..AS LONG AS YOU WANT. |
| cade | Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 04:19 am
ali
"he will kill himself if his daughter married MIDGAAN. "
you having a laugh!!!, I think it's really worth trying if the old man is actually a man of his words. |
| Anonymous | Sunday, August 13, 2000 - 11:51 pm
my mother was married according to our religion &therefore iam halal. my point is that he is going to hurt more people of the side of the lady,her father, brother etc.let us not help some one and then force them to do anything .we have good example in the person of prophet musa . you do remember is encounter with the two sisters of madyan.my friend if u are sincere then give him your sister or your mother if she is singlemother |
| MAD MAC | Monday, August 14, 2000 - 04:42 am
Anonymous
Did you really just write that your mother was married according to "our religion" and therefore you're Halal? That's about the dumbest thing I've ever read - Ok not the dumbest - but it's pretty dumb. People aren't born halal or haram. I mean, I'm just a stupid Kufaar and I know that. Animals are regarded as one or the other for the purpose of consumption. Certain acts are considered one or the other. But you can't be born Halal. The child born out of wed-lock is the same as any other child. Islam does not condemn the innocent child who can not help his origins. You need to pick up your copy of the qur'an, brush off the dust and read it. Obviously it's been sitting on the shelf too long. |
| anwar | Monday, August 14, 2000 - 09:59 am
Salaam Ali,
I am really pained by what you have been made to go through. It seems the father of the girl is a big time opportunist as he never bothered to find out ( or he did but just ignored it) your qabiil when he was back in the refugee camp. He is the one who deserves to be despised for his shameful conduct. As far as advice is concerned, the ball is in your court, you could go ahead and marry that girl, but I would advice you to think twice before you do that, after all, do u need that man to end up being your father in law? It does not sound a smart thing to do to me.
Thanks
Anwar |
| Anonymous | Sunday, August 20, 2000 - 06:18 am
mad mac iwas answering my bro. who introduced the issue of halal or haram,i wanted to put the answer the same way as the question.i also pray for you to be quided to the straight path. |
| koofi | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 02:08 am
WARYAA QALLOOCOW QAMIIR KU DHAC EE NINKAAD MOODAY MA AHI CARUURNA MA LIHI EE GABDHAHA HAYGU DIRIN EHEHEHEHEHEHEEH WAABA I FASHILI GAARTAYE.
WAA KA XUMAHAY SXB KAAD MOODAY MAAHA WAA KOOFI KALE. |
| QALOOCOW | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 03:00 pm
WAR KOOFI SXBOW MAXAAD ISU QARINEE ILAAHAYBA KUMA QARININ,NIN KUULBEER AHNA WAAD SHEEGEYSAA,AMA REER
HOROGLE AH,HADDII AADAN AHAYN MIDNA,YAA KU BARAY
REERAHAN COLLOOWE,BARAKA BEEL IMAD ALLE,WAR XAGGEE
KU DAMBEYSAY....WARKA HA ISKA HELO HEE |
| koofi | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 04:55 am
wah qaloocoow adi suuxdimo maa qabtaana? war ani australia aan joogaa!! dhimo ilaahay aan kaaga tuugee madax adagaa kan, bilaash qalloocoow luguuma dhihin. sxb it is another koofi ok
hadaa i dhaafi waydo waa dhirfaa asaan baacugga kugu dhufaa eheheheheeh waa cabsoodee day. |
| Rashiid | Friday, September 15, 2000 - 06:35 am
Sxb salaan,
Walaahi waa arain la yaab le..sabab waxad arkaysaa noocaas oo hablahooda Carab xun siinaya iyo adoon muslimay..laakiin nin soomaali asal ah u diidan sabab...khuraaftka..ku saabsan jaahliyadii hore..Midgaan iyo wax la mid ah. Laakiin waxay ku xirantahay inanta ayaadaa nacas ah. Waa maxay midgaan , aduunayadan maanta waaxaas waa laga il baxay. Haday ayadu ku diiday aabaheed awgiis waa nasiib daro , naagtaad ilaa Kenya ka keentay ayada iyo aabaheed.
good luck sxb..waxaas laakiin cid maanta aamansin ayaa iska yar ee niyada hayka dilin..nabadeey |
| Malaysia | Tuesday, September 19, 2000 - 01:42 am
salam to Ali and others
Runtii arinta Ali iyo arimo kale oo badanba waa wax bulshada soomaaliyeed ku badan oo waxay ka mid tahay dhaqan xumida iyo dadnimo la'aanta dadkeena, duliga dadkeena, iyo garaadyarida iyo jaahilnimada dadkeena.
Intaan arintan Ali wax ka odhan, dadka ka oo jawaabay qoraalkiisa waxaa ku jira dad aan aad ugu qoslay hadaladoodii iyo kuwo aan la yaabay. sababaha aan ugu qoslay waxaa ka mid ah muddo toban sano ka badan ayaanan akhrin inta aan ka akhriyey qoraaladan oo waxaa ku jiray erayo lagu qoslo iyo kuwa aad ka dhadhansanayso dhaqankeenii qalafsanaa. midna waan kula yaabayoo dad aan diinta wax ka aqoon ama xarfo u marayso ayaa isku haysta diintii oo ku doodaya.
Arinta Ali (if it is true) waxaan oran lahaa, Bro. Ali you can take your decision and bear in mind the consequences (nin aan kuu furi doonin yaanu kuu rarin). As long as the lady loves you and wants your marriage, take initial steps and establish the family. as long as you don't need somali people don't worry about your children. They will not feed you and your children, but for sure they will need you as they needed you before. you are a muslim and she is a muslim what do you need from a somali culture which caused what we can see today in every where.
There is no any religion and good culture which accepts discrimination based on origin, colour, language, etc.
let me remind you that somalis are emotional people so you can give a time this issue, some changes may happen which can give you different angle of thinking to take best decision.
Salam |
| Anonymous | Monday, October 09, 2000 - 08:38 am
aaray ogaadho i maqala yaa boon caan ah oo
midgaanimadiisan ku cabsanahayna gabar islameed la ga wadi laayahay aaray ka sikadha waa dhimahaahe |
| Muslimah | Monday, October 09, 2000 - 12:33 pm
Malaysia
Mansha,llah you give the best advice my br/sis...my allah reaward u.
by the way are u in Malaysia?
I need some information.
peace |
| xareed | Monday, October 09, 2000 - 11:02 pm
Waxaa dhab ah in diin kuu diideeyso ay san jirin,
waad guursan kartaa, waxaase daba yaalo midgaan wixi midgaan loo yiri ayuu qabaa,sida la sheegay dhaqan xumo,garaad yar iyo cuqdad, oo kol dhaw marka uu arooska isugu duba dhaco ka dib, inta adkeeysan weeydo ayaad soo tuuri, oo aad u dhigi reerkeeda, sidaas darteed waqtigaan la joogaba maad faraha ka qaadid haddii aad inanta jeceshay, oo aad raadsatid inan aan qeeylo ku jirin,kuna gelineeynin,somali waan ka dhalanay, waadna ogtahay xan, dagaal, iyo caay intaba in aan lagaa dhaafaheeynin ee walaal waxaa layiri :shimbirkasto shimbirkiisa ayuu la duulaa" ee la duul kuwiina iyagaaba qaar aad u qurux badan ku jiraane. |
| COLOOWE GIRL | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 09:18 pm
ALIYOW INTAAD GABADHAAN BUUQEEDA KA HADHO MAAD ANIGAA AH GABADH MIDGAAN AH OO FICIL I WADAAYE WAX ILA QABATID SAAN U ARKO DOQONTAAD SHEEGAYSAA WAXBA KUUMA HAYSEE WAXAA JILEECA LAGA ARKAY WAA DHINACEEDA. MARKAA INANDEER OO INA ABTI INAGAA ISKU MIDGAAYE TAA ISKA ILOW WAXAANSE KU WAYDIIYEY GABOOYE YAAD KA TAHAY..
COLOOWE GIRL |
