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     | Thursday, October 05, 2000 - 01:52 pm MOST SOMALIS SPENT MORE THAN 10 YRS IN THE WESTERN WORLD, WHAT HAVE WE REALLY ACHIEVED, WHAT HAVE WE GAINED. ARE WE DOOMED PPL!! ARE OUR GREAT,GREAT GRAND CHILDEREN GOING TO BE SUFFERING JUST LIKE US IN THE WESTERN WORLD?? OR MAYBE YOU HAVE ACHIEVED SOMETHING AND YOU ARE HAPPY AND PROUD TO BE HERE. AM HOPING THIS WILL GET A LOT OF US TALKING IN A POSITIVE WAY AND MAYBE WE CAN SHARE OUR SUFFERING OR ACHIEVEMENTS IN THE WESTERN WORLD?
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| | Thursday, October 05, 2000 - 01:55 pm what did u achieve? why don't u share ur experience with us...maybe we could learn something from u?
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| | Thursday, October 05, 2000 - 10:18 pm A big nothing
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| | Thursday, October 05, 2000 - 11:40 pm I'll tell you what you achieved. Many of you are multi-lingual, and impressively so. This is a valuable skill in the business world. Many of you have furthered your educations and have acquired new skills. Many of you have saved some cash - valuable investment capital for cottage industries. When the diaspora goes back to Somalia they will bring new talents, new ideas and new connections that will help reinvigorate the Somali economy and society. Have a little faith Sahib, have a little faith. the future of Somalia is bright even though it's hard to see it right now.
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| | Friday, October 06, 2000 - 04:28 am mad mac? what is the message in ur nick? u have got alot of my father's ideas whom i highly respect though we are opposites.
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| | Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 09:17 am SIMPLE QUESTION ? Why is it when a serious question is asked, so few ppl seem to respond ?
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| | Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 03:17 pm salmau alykum MO Hadaan jawaab gaaban kaa siiyo suaashaa wlaal waxaynu ka faaiidaynay qasaare aan la koobi karin. Hadaba suaasha waxay tahy qasaaruhu maxuu yahay intebuuse gaarsiisanayahy inteebaa se looga kabsan karaa in la'eg mudo ah . 1-waxaa luntay islaanimadii oon maanta faraha lagu hayn,caruur warkooda daa dhalinyaro way dhaga xirantay qalbigii wuu qalalay quraankii ,digrigi ilaahay ,eedaankii faraha badnaa ee dhagaha ku dhici jiray malaha seerihii waa ladhaafay ilah waa la iloobay ,ciroole waa wareeray meel uu wax ka qabto ayuu garan waayay waayo caruurtiisii oo iskuulka lagu soo baray hadii waalidku ku dhibo namberkan garaac ayuu guri kula noolyahy ma hadli karo haday wax walb qasanayaan hadii kale xabsi ayaa yaqaan ,maxuu markaa door biday isagiina inuu meelaha is taago oo yiraa war maanta maxay BBC sheegtay ilayn awood kale ma jirteee AFKII BA JUUQDA GABAY . Hadaba waxan is waydiiya marrka qaarkood ma loo laabandoonaa wadankii hooyo mise halkan ayaynu cimrigeena inta ku dhiman ku qadan doonaa oo aynu si xanuun badan ugu baabi'idoonaa ,waayo waxa aynu maanta ku noolahay lama oran karo waa nolole ilaahay se kama raja dhigin intaan muslimka ahay yaa rab nasrun mina laah 2 my ppl. Hadii aan noqono se ay dhacdo umada bilaa diinta ah ee halkan ku dhalatay am dhaqanada shisheeye ku barbaray like dimuqraadiyad iyo wax la mid ah ma laga yaaba inay wanaag ula noqonayaan dhulkii hooyo ILAAHOW GARGAAR DAG DAG AH DADKAYGA AAAMIIN Sheeko gaaban ayaa yurub ka dhacday oon ku noola wiil yar oo soomali ah ayaa waxaa dhacday in uu macalinkii iskoolka u dhigi jiray uu isticmaaly da'diisu qiyaastii waa 7 jir marka uu iskuulka ka soo noqdo ayuu waxuu ku boda dhabta aabihii oo aan u aabayeelis lahayn mar walba waliba intuu gacanta ku qabto guska aabihii ayuu yiraa aabo kan ayaa macaan subxaana laaah aabihii ayaa yaabay waxuu yiri aabo waxaas yaa kugu yiri waxuu yiri aabo macalinkayga ayaa i baray waa kan iskuulka oon niri wax ayuu noo barayaa caruurta ee ogow wlaalayaal aabihii ayaa yiri oo ma macalinkaa ku yiri wuu macaan yahy wiilkii yaraa haa aabo aabihii waxuu wiilkii geeyay dhaqtar waxuu yiri bal hala ii baaro wiilkii yaraa waa la baaray dhaqtarkii waxu cadeeyay in wiilka mudo la isticmaalayay dabad laga wasayay aabihii qaracan waxaa dhacday aabihii in markii ay arinkii ay cadaatay uu arkay uu go'aan dagdag ah kalidii gaaray oo iyadon la ogayn ayuu is dilay goob joog ayaan u ahaa arikaas waa faa'iidada qurbaha ee la soco hade . Raali iga noqdo waan idinku dheeraaday balse aadbaan uga xanuunsanayaa dhibaatada dadkayga ku dhacday iyo waliba sida aan wali xalka loo hayn ee 10 kii sano ay soo dhafnay meeshaynu taagnay aynu taagnahay wali . ma garanayo waxa caqliga inaga qaaday ilaahay waa kii na karaameeyee inaa karamnaa banii aadama saw ma ahan ayaad caqligii aaway maxaa ilaah loogu noqon la'yahy oo laysu indha tirayaa aniga marka lagu daro ILAAH HAINOO NAXARIISTO KULIGEEN AAMIIN TAKECARE AND GOD BLESS YA
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| | Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 03:28 pm I agree bro when sex is involved every1 responds but when a crucial question is being asked look at the responses??????? what does it tell U?
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| | Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 09:12 pm we as people or as imdividual achievements???
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| | Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 11:13 pm You know, the other day I decided to get on the Somali chat networks. Of course, I wanted to talk politics and economics. No one wanted to do anything except call each other "Nigga" and talk about sex and try to convince women on the net to link up. Two guys responded to my querries in over one hour and one of them was a women who logged off the second I said I have a girl friend and am gaal anyway. I don't get it. Here the country is still a zoo and no one wants to talk about the challenge of getting Somalia back together again. Anyway, never say die!!!! I still say that a lot of Somalis are acquiring valuable skills and capital while they are in exile, they now need to start thinking about going home and supporting a genuine political process. I'm going back 2004 - wish me luck. white guys stand out there.
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| | Monday, October 09, 2000 - 08:22 am I can drive damn it.
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| | Monday, October 09, 2000 - 09:50 am Yeah, Hebs da man, he can drive and stuff!
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| | Saturday, October 21, 2000 - 06:24 pm I grew up/got educated and got a Car. What else could a girl want. I can get anny Farax I want now. Yipppeeeeeeeee Yiiiihaaaaaa. Mad mac I was multi-lingual before Somalia deteriorated ok. So stop making rash judgements.
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| | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 11:04 am Salaan dhamaan, To: Tgirl do u have any idea what these guys are discussing????????????? u have missed the point by 3000 miles.. car/ a little paper from a Unversity thats all..u need to read sis lif aint about materialistic stuff..a man has a nation.. why are we still ..in other mans ..land..where is our land..and what is the solution..thats the point. No wonder somali women never done anthing for somalia all their histroy..only heared couple women..Dhag Dheer..the Canibble.. and Araweelo the Ball japer.. what is wrong with somali women i wondered what they have inside that big skull of theirs..?????????????????????????????????????
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| | Sunday, October 22, 2000 - 08:27 pm to Nin kayaabay DOQON, I'm wondering and i'm asking myself, maxaa laga yaabi? r u sure women didn't achieve much in somalia.. can u look back in ur past and ask yourself,who gave birth to u and took care of u and your male ancestors..was it the british or italian babysister??huh!or was it ur mother? instead of asking us why are we in another man's land..i answer u with a question, why are you in another land, what don't you initiate the "going back and fixing our land"? Don't get me wrong, im not attacking you, but im just putting forward my opinions. And about this topic, ive been reading around in other forumss and many people seem to attack MadMac however, i see here that he proposed the answer that every somali should have been uttering, instead of being the "biggest pessimists" in the world. It is true , that a lot of our people got lost in the diaspora ,but another portion of us learned and achieved alot .Try to look at things in an optimistic way my somali brothers and sisters.We could have an influence on those who were lost. we could rebuild our nation . We could stand on our feets again. You know why guys, it's all about time and also one very important fact, WE ARE SOMALIANS, WE ARE STRONG, WE ARE MUSLIMS, and inshalah one day we will get there....
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| | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 05:18 am It depends what you really mean by achievement. I have only been here for 7 years and i have achieved a lot. When i first came to this country i spoke no English and as i left somalia when i was only 8 i had no education from there as well only Quran -which came handy. So i came here at the age of 13-started school a year after i came to the country so this mean i had to start everything from scrach. I coudnt communicate with the student nor with the teachers so this kind of encouraged me to work hard. So whenever school was over i would go home straight and learn English as well others things. I have done for three years. Went to college started a business course and three years later i am in University studying BA International Management/Accounting. So Yes some have achieved somethings and i have not changed like some of the teen age girls like myself-when i say changed i mean dressing like the Westernised people etc. It also helps if you have help fro0m your parents , my parents have always supported me in my education.
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| | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 09:15 am Salaan all, To: Warda u got a point there i have to admite..we agree 95%..so far..but T_Girls type are the lost ships in the sea..i intended the hamer for her head..lol. keep your head up sis..one day..one day..lol
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| | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 09:53 am Hakiima good question Mad Mac what is behind your name? The meaning?
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| | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 10:10 am Mo do not be ridiculous we're not doomed. Every nation has its ups and downs, and if you look deep down inside you you'll know why the somalis are the way they are. But you know what's so cool about us we're very so simple and down to earth that we're not concerned with the stuff we don't have. Somalis are not ambitious this is our weakness as well our strength. How is it our strength I'll leave you to figure that out.
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| | Monday, October 23, 2000 - 01:35 pm I got education,my own apartment,car and i bang any white girl i see in my area looooooooool. Somalian ones i am done with them already .
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| | Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 01:24 am Richgirl I am making a general observation. Many Somalis have now had the opportunity (misfortune?) of licing in a foreign country and mastering second language or acquiring skills they might not otherwise have had the chance to do. In fact, in your first paragraph you allude to the same. I wasn't talking about you specifically. It was just a general observation. Time Well, some people say I'm Mad or Crazy for having anything more to do with Somalis. And my nickname is MAC (derived from my name). So, MAD MAC.
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| | Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 07:09 am To Mad Mac ma somali baad tahey?
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| | Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 07:25 am Attention to all those interested. For every good thing there is a bad. For every bad thing there is a good. So, I am more than happy to say that as a ppl we are not doomed, we have evolved. I have been in the states for 25 of my 29 years alive. I strive to go home to my motherland Somalia. I am educated and make good wages. I strive to go back simply because there is something intangible about somalia that you can't find anywhere else. People who look like you, People who talk like you, people who have the same values like you, your people my people. So to ask are we doomed I say not me, are you? One Love One Life Always Your brother Abshir abshir@hotmail.com
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| | Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 08:09 am Wow...i got an answer...Thanks Time :-)
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| | Tuesday, October 24, 2000 - 08:31 am Hakima anytime sister. Mac - are you over weight by the way? If mac is ya nick name, and being in american for sometime,i have come to understand the term 'mac'. Usually used to call fat people. like Big Mac. You know - the burger king food big mac.So are you severely FAT?
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| | Thursday, October 26, 2000 - 05:46 pm Time Magazine Mad Mac is overweight no doubt, how can I tell that? well take a look at the forumss he's always posting messages as a matter of fact it's next to impossible to find a discussion without mad mac getting his two cents in......anyway from this I conclude that he spends too much time sitting on his a$$ and typing worthless messages......and from this conclusion I further conclude that he doesn't get up a lot because it's hard for him to.......
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| | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 04:24 am Hi, May..sweetgirl.. ama aha ..overweight .. ee wuxu yahy curyaan, dagaalkii Xamar ayay xabadi xaarisada..assholka.. kaga dhacday.. ka qalee macalinka.. nabadeey
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| | Friday, October 27, 2000 - 12:13 pm what are you amazed at????????
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| | Monday, October 30, 2000 - 02:34 am Oh Sweetgirl, you underestimate The Mad One. I weigh 123 pounds. I am a recently retired amateur boxer. Sorry to disappoint, but from a physical stand point I look like a well built, short Somali guy. I run a lot. Remember, I'm working in my native language here, which makes it easier for me. I think fast, I type fast and I read fast. So I don't need to spend that much time on this thing. Anyway, I'm not fat. Pretty white though.
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| | Monday, October 30, 2000 - 03:44 pm 123 pounds damn that's small. You see the name mad mac gives false impressions about you. It's my humble opinion but me thinks the name mad mac is so wrong for you how about little Johnny? Sweetgirl
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| | Tuesday, October 31, 2000 - 11:30 pm MAD MAC is definately small. I mean, how big was Napoleon? He was no giant either. Little Johnny? Does that sound like a vicious animal to you? Somalia aren't going to respect a little Johnny but they might respect a MAD MAC.
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