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SomaliNet Forum (Archive): Ila Tali Walaal - Ask The Experts: Archive (Before Oct. 29, 2000): Help the chidren who forget their culutre and write in English your messages.
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Hibo Abdi S.

Wednesday, June 14, 2000 - 02:48 pm
There are million of Smalia children in America who forget their culutre and religion why can anybody do anything about it. When are we going to wake up Somalia. When will the parent relaz that their chidren became western. Join me at Hibolove@yahoo.com to make a difference. I need all the help i can get. U.S.A. Love and peace brothers and Sisters.

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Anonymous

Friday, June 16, 2000 - 03:55 am
hey hibo believe me the somalian teenages who should help their country are bussy looking at the girls.they never care about their country i hope that they wake up and stop cutting their hair like girls or wearing necklases.there are things more important than following western.i hope what are you doing will have a result.....

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Husseinn

Sunday, June 18, 2000 - 07:20 pm
To Hibo, your message seems good one.However;our Somali people in North America are still weak and have not made any commitment in-order to build a strong communities that would educate our own people interms of maintaining our own culture.

As long as some somali people divided clans, it's realy difficulty to create a strong communities who would maitain the somali cuture.

For example,Lebanes, Jamaicans, Ethiopians and Chines communities are strong and getting a lot of funds from the Federal and local goverments.

Why can't we stick together same as the above mentioned communites, instead of creating many somal communities. We should have a "one strong somali communities one nation". I beleived that we need to educate our somali people especially elderly then young generation interms of respecting and maintaining our own culture.

It does't suprised me or having heard that a young somali girl who's age is 10 years old with pregnant or 14 years old boy with cell phone and selling drugs on the streets. Imagine, this is the image that we have in North America especially Canada and USA.Where are the somal's?.
Hi somal's, don't waite a wake-up call from other communities or goverments do some things in-order to save and protect our young children and build a strong community.

Hi Hibo, good luck and wish you all the best.

By Husseinn!!!

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waryaa

Tuesday, June 20, 2000 - 09:36 am
try to write somali before you help anyone else.
remember charity starts at home.

don't give me any excuses, if you can write and read in english you can learn Somali too.

isku daya.

garabkiina ala hagalo.

soo barya

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Anonymous

Wednesday, June 21, 2000 - 06:01 am
Baby Girl yous are still a flower please
focus on your own life.

sincerely

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Yaska

Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 03:01 am
Salaam

Anonymous;

I am definetly sure that you have humble and selfish mentality by discouraging truly energatic, and dynamic sister who want to make a difference! If you cann't help leastly what you could do is IS TO PRAY for her!!

Hibo,

You go girl, There is no one who is coming to rescue them if we don't help our self, so do what you think you could do it. try to figure out if there are other forces working in the field which you could get help or even work with them. Lastly but not leastly try to organize them eitherin student organisation alike or youth organisation.
I live far away from USA so I can only pray for you.

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Abdi Hibo

Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 12:20 pm
Dear Waryaa,
I don't apprecite your silly message. I guess it was suposed to be a joke ha. Well, I get it. Of course I can learn Somali but I can help the children without learn somali. I can speak somalia perfect. So, Plesae I have my excuse and I don't have to tell you. SO, whatever you are just the chidren don't make funny of the ones that want to help them. There reason why Somalia cannot be a commuite is there alot of people like you. Enjoy your life.

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hibo abdi

Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 12:25 pm
Dear Anonymous,
First I ain't your baby and second I'm 17 and I get my life undercontrol. Thanks for nothing.

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Anonymous

Thursday, June 22, 2000 - 01:37 pm
hi hibo.just wanna say that is good 2 halp somalian chidren in usa but i wondring if they want your halp or not.im a somalian girl and im 18 years old and i have my life undercontrol.
if thers famli cant halp them so how can u halp them.Its thers chose, if they wanna stay home and to pry alaah or be out in the streets and dricks beer.

Thnaks for that u halping somalian childring if they let u halp them.

From somaliangirl in the sweden!!!!!!

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Ali

Friday, June 23, 2000 - 10:49 am
Little Hibo
I don't know if you asked yourself the motifs of your action. Let me tell you few things. You need to be appreciated, heard,
you want to help and prove that you can...
but why?? very simple you are in search of
identity, the need to be different. It's very normal at your age(17), commonly we call this "teenage crisis", every teen express those fellings in different way.
The problem you are trying to solve is more complicated than you think, although are a somali girl you know nothing about somali
mentality. My advise find another hobby before your fragil soul get hurt.
No offence
By the way my mane is Ali not anonymous.
********************************************Mr Yaska
If you want me to analyse your situation just ask. OK

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Husseinn

Sunday, June 25, 2000 - 06:55 pm
To: Waryaa
why don't you learn good(ESL)English as a Second Language,instead of advising other people to learn somali language.Your statement seems terrible.

War nin yahow waxaan u maleynaayaa in aad ka mid aheyd kuwii Maxamed Siyaad Barre oo qasabka nooga dhigay in aan barno OLOLAHII AF SOOMAALIGA (1975).

By the way, af-somaliga iyo englishkaba waxaan ku wada in lagaa badiyaa ee ummada somaaliyeed meel kasto eey jooganba ha ku qasbin in rayigooda eey ku soo qoraan afka-soomaliga oo kaliya.

Take it eassy boy and don't force us.

Thanks

By Husseinn

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Yaska

Tuesday, June 27, 2000 - 02:29 am
Salaam

Ali, former anonymous!

It seems to me that you haven't changed much from your earlier course,..I am affraid you read too much pyschology which have a route on western's civilization point of views. You failed to distinguish between what is science and what is an idealogy.

Pure science is independent from the scientist as well as time and space factors, regardless who carried out, if you put together O + 2H = H20=> Water!! WHat about the different interpertation of behaivioural of humans and societies at large? One's interpertation has something to do what he believes, his environment as well as how he see the world. Back to topic, youth has especial place in Islam which we should trace back right from first days of islam. Who they were first believers who entered the islam? what about the supporters and frontline worriers!!!

History could witness youth's place in societies, they are dynamic and backbone of every society!! you called 17 year!!! Identity crisis period?? may be you in your 40 y "middle age" crises?? why not this is what europeans called it.
She is 17 years, not mature enough to distinguish right from the wrong? I was 17 year when I took my postion to lead the people as !!Imam!! in Jum'a, tarawih, EID, and all daily prayer times.

Mr Ali-aqoonyahan, where were you at this age? In the middle of identity crisis?? Needless to say, she is much better and could contribute lot than many of you could do it,so don't under estimate her.

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Ali

Tuesday, June 27, 2000 - 09:44 am
Yaska
Only idiots change their mind every 30 second!!
About science & idealogy..... I think you require a little revision.
First psychology is based on science, also let me assure you that is not "the western way"before them muslim schoolar explored the field I hope you already know that!!
The subject had nothing to do with "the place of youth in Islam" why are you drifting the subject to a socio-religious one?
I respect your position as a Imam that's not a subject for debate or elese.
You cannot compare what you've achieved at 17(Imam) with what Hibo is trying to do.
You become Imam that involved only you and the Almighty. I hope you understand my inner meaning.
By the way I'm not under estimating little Hibo I just want to show her the other side of the coin..
ALi

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Husseinn

Tuesday, June 27, 2000 - 05:36 pm
to: Yaska and Ali, former known anonymous.

Dear Brothers!!!

Waxay iqula qumantahay ama illa tahay in la is- xaqdhowro. Sharaf noo ma aha in aan hadalada qaarkood isku kaafsano "somaliNet-Page".Wax- yaabaha qaarkood waa ceeb ee ha laga fiirsado.

Labadiinuba, "both of you guys" midba, mid waxaad mooda in uu Hibo Abdi kula talinaayo in eeysan involvin arimaha eey faraha kula jirto hadda,oo eey maharad kale ka raadsato ama badaha eey hadda ku jirto oo kala ah talooyin iyo waanooyin ku saabsan "The Future Somali Children".

Midka kalena aad moodo in uu difaacaayo Hibo Abdi's action.Please respect each others.

Thanks

Regards

Husseinn

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Husseinn

Tuesday, June 27, 2000 - 05:39 pm
to: Yaska and Ali, former known anonymous.

Dear Brothers!!!

Waxay iqula qumantahay ama illa tahay in la is- xaqdhowro. Sharaf noo ma aha in aan hadalada qaarkood isku kaafsano "somaliNet-Page".Wax- yaabaha qaarkood waa ceeb ee ha laga fiirsado.

Labadiinuba, "both of you guys" midba, mid waxaad mooda in uu Hibo Abdi kula talinaayo in eeysan involvin arimaha eey faraha kula jirto hadda,oo eey maharad kale ka raadsato ama badaha eey hadda ku jirto oo kala ah talooyin iyo waanooyin ku saabsan "The Future of Somali Children".

Midka kalena aad moodo in uu difaacaayo Hibo Abdi's action.Please respect each others.

Thanks

Regards

Husseinn

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Yaska

Tuesday, June 27, 2000 - 09:29 pm
Salaam 'aleukum

Ali,

Thankx for your advice, But again you miss the point. Yes psychology is based on science,,,,, but what science? I guess I classified difference between what is science and what Europeans claims to be a science??? Science is what you can prove expermentally which is at same time independent from the scientist !!!

Let me say this ones, if the Mosai of kenya put together N+Cl they will endup NCl, so as if japanies applied it. Do you think that both people will explain or even believe same thing abut emotional intellgency of humanbeings? I don't think so, because they don't believe same thing, have a different civilization and the worst they may use different scale for measurements.

Ali you are right on this point that muslim schoolar explored the field of psychology, but this doesn't mean that psychology is free from the corrupt interpertations of europeans!!! Yes Muhammed(ppuh) was firt one who teaches on this subject... After the decline of Islamic world,,subject continue to develop its way by europians, so again we need Islamization of the subject one more time before we rely on it.!!!

Why should I take the subject into scio-religion side?..later!

regards,
-Yaska-

Hussien,

Waad ku mahadsantahay walaal fikradaha aad noo jeedisay, laakiin wadasheekeysigaygu ma aha mid wax u dhimaya walaaltinimmadayadda isla mar ahaantaana ulama jeedo is cey iyo wax lam mid ah.

Waxaan isku dayeynoo oo kaliya in aan aaraadda iyo aragtiyadda kale duwan aan isweydaarsano

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Ali

Wednesday, June 28, 2000 - 04:14 am
Brother Yaska
In my opinion what we've been talking about lately is an never ending debate.
I think we should open a new topic and leave Hibo managing her's.
If you have any subject you want to talk about..here's my email akhata@hotmail.com
Brother Hussein
We tried to keep our conversation as clean as possible. It was just an exchange of view.
Ali

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Husseinn

Wednesday, June 28, 2000 - 07:00 pm
TO: Ali,former anonymous and Yaska.

Hi Brothres, I got both your messages and I am glad to see that.I understood clearly both messages.However;as brother Ali indicated in his statement that we should open another topic. I think that is a good idea for all of us including Hibo Abdi and anyone who was involved this discussion in the past.

Please keep in mind that we always need help each others in order to exchange a fresh & good idea. Besides that, don't forget it that we always one somalian people are one nation.

God Bless you guys and wish you all the best!!!

Thanks

Regards

By Husseinn

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ABDULLAHI

Saturday, July 01, 2000 - 07:37 am
Salaamu caleykum

I was very pleased to read such interesting topic.
I tried to follow carefully the different opinions which was based on science, relegion and idiology. Thx to all of you who made this topic such unique. If i say some thing about hibo's idea it's unexplainable many pple who are older than you hibo, they couldn't even think about it.
All i suggest you is to go forward and do what you think is the best for our community and forget those whom i call lower minded people.
This is clear message to lot of Somalian pple who are around the glope not only in the state.
Brothers & sisters lets be united for the good and be supportive for the good ideas regardless who, age male or female.

Abdullahi Ahmed
London
Wasalaamu Caleykum

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hebel

Sunday, July 02, 2000 - 10:36 pm
So what is dis
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Another freaking phony dreams
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peace shitt

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Ali

Tuesday, July 04, 2000 - 05:00 am
MR Hebel
Don't you know that this is a Hebel free zone.
Mr simple mind we are not dreaming we are
doing something you can't I call it thinking
Regards

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@@@@

Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 04:54 am
Hey Mr.former anonymous.

Yaaciska aa sida jiniga ugu dhereysaa ha ha ha.
why dont u become a comedian so that we can listen to your critics.


peace.
P.S. "this is just a choke bro dont take it personal ok".

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Ali

Wednesday, July 12, 2000 - 11:01 pm
Mr@@@@@@@
A choke or a joke ?? Funny little man.

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Biibto

Friday, July 21, 2000 - 01:11 am
Hibo sis you come up with a very nice idea but sis is not only the once in north America who need help, if we going to do something about it why don’t we just help all of them no matter if they are in an English speaking country or not. I mean the once in western countries like Sweden, U.K., Dk, Holland, Australia & etc. i'm not sure what we can do but i'm 100% sure that we can ask Allah to direct them to the right path and make them realise their mistakes. Is not teens who are lost there are some olders who are in same way as teens so what can i say "gaalo dhaqankeeda ayaa ilbaxnimo ayaa la moday" secondly to be honest my heart goes out for those who are absolutely lost I’m not sure if this idea would help or not, cuz a person who has no respect what so ever to those who were carrying 9 month and raised them 4 many years. Do u thing they will respect some1 else or give an attention to ya? . These kids need a very good “tarbiyo” from their prance although now is 2 late.

1. How about if we make a youth community through the net & later on we can establish it wherever we are.
2. Or somalinet could open a section that all teens could come and read what their older sis & bro Somali wrote, they can also ask q’s. So it can be a learning and helping section.

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hibo abdi

Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 12:56 pm
Dear Biibto,
A salamu caleykum
i totaly agree your idea, but this children need someone who can talk to them as adult or tell them a little about the our religion Which is "ISLAM" some our parents don't tell much about the religoin to thier children.
All i was trying to do is get help for my sis & bro who realy need help.
So sis try to open up more so we can talk about how we can make different to our somali nation.
Peace and my ALLAH bless all of us

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