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WHY OUR SISTERS PLEACH THEMSELVES?

SomaliNet Forum (Archive): Ila Qosol - Jokes: Archive (August 2000): WHY OUR SISTERS PLEACH THEMSELVES?
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JAMILLA

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I DON'T GET WHY OUR SISTERS PLEACH THEIR FACES NOW DAYS, IS'T LACK OF CONFEDENCE OR IS'T ANOTHER WAY OF GETTING GUYS ATTENTION SINCE MEN ARE AFTER LIGHT SKINED SISTERS..?????????????????
I'm not being so selfish or paranoide, if ya people think that but I do have friends who totally denied that they've used those sort of stuff and i't so obviouse and kids can also tell, i don't wanna hurt their feelings by pushing them not to use it but i wanna say one thing, IT HAS A SITE EFFECT' and always remember what's inside counts the most! and who you are!

NO SWEARING ZONE, IT'S SIMPLE Q'S ANSWER THEM BERIEFLY WITHOUT GETTING OFFENDED.

PEACE N LUV'

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SmOoTh da Brown One

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Jamilla Wallalo....I'll tell U Y our fellow somalian sister'z HATE da Tone of there skin it'z Simple .....Form a young age Ur sister'z have been told dat da Lighter the more U gonna get out of life ...The main thing being if...U light then U gonna find husband dat???....I find diz hard to understand ...Az somali PeePz .....WE hate da balck man WE SaY.....
"O we are not black "
" We don't look like them we have soft hair"

Yet still we come from AFICA?

So from a young age da somalian sister'z don't know what they are and it ain't a case of only sister'z in ...EngLand,America, and so on and so forth.....being WesTniZed.......Coz 99% of da somali sista'z back home use it like no No 2morroW....
WE are BLACK...datz da way Allah made az time to give thanx .....And STOP tryin' To be something WE NOT.....

No Dizrezpct....To by somali sister'z

Peace Love "n" happineZz

SmOoThiE

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Shatra

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I think it comes down to a lack of self-esteem and having the wrong definition of beauty.
One starts to do it..then another follows...then ten more thinking to themselves that they don't want to be the ugly ones remaining...and soon almost everyone is doing it. Then the ones who have their original color are told "now why did you get darker"
I tell them I was always this color. No affect. To think of themselves as normal they have to see you as the one who has changed.
Crazy world we live in!

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JAMILLA

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SmOothie & shatra
lol, lol....GiRls C'mon we are not scary like other african sisters like oganda, kenya etc. So far we've got beutiful hair, skin and so on comparing with them.
People come up to me these days and say "damn girl, you getting darker and darker each day what's happen? and i'm like hellooooooooooo, i thought year ago i was much lighter than you are today .................lol...lol Noah Noah honey i've always been white just like the way i'm..lol


Sweeties I totally agree with you's but hey the main thing is would that color stay longer than we expected? or does it last for life time? we, somali ladies have the most remarcable taned skin in the world. Instantly some white chicks that i've known are dieying to have that kind of honey bee sugar type of color which we do have,basically we ain't see what we've got so far.

One thing that surprises me most is how white people are getting sun burn, lying down on the beaches to achieve darker skin in other hand we have those chicks Micheal jackson wannabe, do the opposite way by pleaching their faces or becoming Micheal jackson type of thing. Now days beuty experts are producing those creams to make them darker for white people and what are we doing damn riding the wrong plane.


CIO

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SmOOTh da BroWn OnE

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Jamilla..lol girl OkaY so we don't look like da sister'z from.....KenYa Oganda .........And Az for dem LooKin' "ScarY"....I personally think dat they look good .... honeY we still BLACK maYbe we have better hair Good skin .....But jamilla sista think about it IF WE have such GOOD Skin Then Y are Somali sister'z Bleaching dem-self'z?.. Don'T u think We should be happY with the good look'z god give Az..
Don't U think it'z funnY how PpL are neva happY with what theY got .........White Chick'z WannaBe Black....And then U got Black Chick'z dat WannaBe White?....

HeY Girl'z how does dat OLD sayin' Go ....

Da BLACKER Da BerrY da SWEETER da ?!?

Ha Ha Ha...

SmOoThiE.

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MissX

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Salaamz all,

well, I love my men dark!!!!!! and personally, i wish i looked more like my people, i am not ashamed of my colour nor will i bleach my face..i think bleach is for white clothes...and u know what happens when u bleach ur favorite black shirt rite grlz? anywayz, my point is, i think dark skin we're born with is the most natural moast beautiful gift from allah and u shouldnt be ashamed of it..i mean like would be dull if we didn't have colours and shades!!!! think about it grlz b4 u poison ur beautiful skin and get blotches and wrinkles and burns...

thats all i have to say 4 now
~May the force be with you~
Peace

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MissX

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oopz, like=life
maybe i dropped ESL class too soon!!

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Tbone99

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DEAR MY RESPECTFUL SISTERS:


I LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU MY IDEA OF THIS TOPIC: BLEACHING. DO YOU MIND?


PEACE!

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Ahmad

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Asalama Alaykum All!


I think this happens to MOST of the societies---where something is percieved as being "beautiful" or "smart" when it really may not be. It's a known fact...that WE, somalis, like to be lighter---for God knows the reason. It goes back TO THE COLONIZING days...where white folks walked around, smart. Therefore, the idea was percieved...that the more 'lighter' the more you're smart.

It's ironic---while the Somalis put down themselves for not being so "light"...they still look down on other less "light" or "less soft-haired folks" as WE SEE in this discussion.

For examply, our Sister Jamilla who raised the topic herself...looked down on other Africans just after couple of articles!

WHO said that soft-hair or little nose is better than hard-haired or big-nosed??????????? THIS is only what is known to mankind...but to God, they're ALL His children---and those who follow His laws, He loves them, EQUALLY! We're all the same to him---all Creations that He expects them to be submissive to him.

AS a Muslim man, I don't differentiate God's creature in looks---but I do differentiate them in beliefs. I would RATHER marry an Ugandis Sister of Islam...than a Pagan White woman...vise-versa. No tribe is better than the other, nor does any color or structure better than another. God is the ARTIST...who creates all of us---and if we don't appreciate what He creates, we simply don't appreciate Him, either!

To believe anything less than that is simply to SPIT on the face of Islam---which we, somalis, claim to have as a religion.


Best luck to all of you,


Wasalama Calaykum


Ahmad!*>.<*

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Tbone99

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In The Name Of Allah The Merciful The Compasssionate

Aslamu Laykum my beloved brothers and sisters

I, personally seen and heard lot of sisters in the QURBAHA, bleaching their faces and having surgeries for beautification. Yes, technology is booming up and now a days everything is possible but we are Muslims and we have a task to complete in this Duniya (world), and that task is worshiping Allah and leaving what is Haram (unlawful) and following what is Halal (lawful).

Subhana-Allah, I even heard brothers bleaching their faces with something call Diana or Dana. This product is very popular in Canada as far as I know.

As far as bleaching the face and the body is concerned, it permanently disfigures the face and other part of the body and it is HARAM (prohibited or unlawful). We also know the ruling of the Islamic laws relating to this topic. Islam denounces such extremes in beautifying oneself as require changing one's physical features as Allah created them. Don't they know that they questioning Allah's creation and changing it. Subhana-Allah, think before you act people.

My beloved brothers and sisters, remember we are here in this Dunia to be trial for a short time. As you see, men and woman spend hundreds and thousands of dollars to reshape their noses or breasts, or whatever they consider misshapen. After all, we are living in a Kufaar's Land.

In my own point of view, I think sisters' do what they do because of lack of DIIN (Islamic Sharica). And also, there is competition of men. After all, women do double the number of men in this world. They think men only see beauty as what is outside. Not necessarily, that maybe true for some but not the majority. I personally see beauty as the person's intellectual and Imaan. I think everyone is beautiful in his or her own way, if we look down deep inside of everyone instead criticizing them then we shall see it. I believe that Allah's creation is very beautiful and unique and nothing can ever replace it but Him.


The Qur'an considers such change as inspired by Satan,
…who command them (his devotees) to change what Allah has created


*May Allah strenghtens our knowledge and Imaan.

*ALLAH KNOWS BEST!


WASALAMU LAYKUM!

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Anonymous

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Ahmed did you say that we are the children of God? are you out of your mind?

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Ahmad

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Asalama Alaykum All!

Anonymous,

LOL! It's not "biological" thing, silly! We call God (RUB*rabi*, in Arabic)---part of the Rub...is "father"---not that kind of father, but out of respect. "Lam yulid, walam yakun"---we're MUSLIMS! It's like "EEBE"---It's not normal father...but He is "EEBE"(In somali)!

...THIS is one of the reasons it was plaspheme to call Siyad Barre: "Aabihii Dadka"(remember "aabihii dadkoow, siyaad---weerarkii calankoo, siyaad---siyaadow noowar. Waynahaan ka tuugne, etc???)...because Alle umbaa Aabaha Dadka!


Keep the peace,


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad! *>.<*

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JAMILLA

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LOL miss X

Well said girls, I never been so proud and couldn't of said it better way, the way you guyz described everything.God bless you all and keep the spirit up girls.


TO: Ahmed
Sweetie you totally misunderstood the issue that i was raising here, i mean i wasn't bein' mean to those poor other africans, the one thing i was pointing to was how vital it's that we somali girls destroyin' our colors and instantly looking up to white people's color and leaving ours behind. I know i shouldn't be using the WORD scary but hey don't get me wrong but i was only being more specific and also showing dat we 'somali are lookin' for something we are not and how those other ladies are not abssest for their color..

Cio

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AMRAN

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DEAR JAMIILA

Hi sis?
girl i have seen that here in down under(Australia) am taking about the one day white one day dark chicks.lol am confussed sis.but not that.
They think no one will notice that but sis commmmmon' no one is blind here. we still got the original picture in our head,n no metter the colour she turns ,yellow black n green she still the same person.
anyway i go for what u've said what is inside counts n who u r not who u pretend like n how u look like.
LATER>

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Ahmad

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Asalama Alaykum ALL!

Jamilla,

Sis, this is what you said:

"GiRls C'mon we are not scary like other african sisters like oganda, kenya etc. So far we've got beutiful hair, skin and so on comparing with them."

Sorry...i'm not in your thoughts, I can only judge you by what you say/do. From that statement, you seem to me someone who looks down on others. Other African Girls are not scary...nor ugly---they're unique and God's creations. We should appreciate what we have---and WHAT others have, too. God is the Master Artist---to say what He created is "scary" or "ugly" simply spits on His work, which is not good!

If your thoughts are on the right spot, GOOD FOR YOU, but so should your actions/sayings.


...forgive me, I don't wanna be mean or rude...just telling you my view.


Blessed BE!

Peace, Ahmad! *>.<*

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Tangy

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Dear jamilla
hi sis how are you doing. I think i have an idea why some somalia girls go through great lenght to change themself cuz there are deseparate to look beautiful which necessarly means their personality haven't changed which is shallow and seflish. We insult Micheal jackson for changing his color but we are not any better. And beside all these chemicals put on their faces will one day cause some serious disease such as cancer.
Like AMRAN said there alot of girls that change their color and think that one will notice them. They must we are dump or something.
In AUSTRALIA where me and AMRAN ARE FROM THERE DESEPARATE GIRLS ( NOT ME) THAT ARE WAITING TO JUMP ON THE WAGON IF YOU ALL COMPREHEND ME.
WELL I THINK ENOUGH FOR TODAY ANYWAY THANX Jamilla for the topic i think it's every good one.
bye people and stay cool and happy

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Tbone99

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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:


I FEEL LIKE I WAS IGNORED UP IN HERE! I DID NOT

GET NO FEED BACK, COMMENTS, THESIS, etc...

AIN"T MAD ATCH YO THOU, IS COOL!


PEACE!

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Baggio maha

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TO EVERYBODY,
YO I HAVE A QUESTION..
HOW COME SISTERS DONT PLEACH THEIR pussy?
I MEAN THEY ARE PLEACHING THEIR FACE, THEIR LEGS, EVERY WHERE ON THEIR BODY. BUT THE GSPOT, AND THEY AINT COOL,,,

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BLUELADY

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yo baggio mahad


waad is ku ciyaartay tii kudhashaa ku gu qasaartay

here is to descuse u opinon in a good way not to descuss down under if u wana talk about that talk to ur what ever girl u get with if u can get with one i pray for u man and i feel sorry for ya

sista jamila i think u are from canada and most somalian who bleach them selves are from u area sista i am in north america and here i never seen somalians doing that we all love the way we are and what god gave us i know i do and i know my homeis do eithe my guys or gir (alxamdu lilaah) and i also heard that canada guys put on make ups instead. i don't know if it is true or not but that is what i hear,,, besise those canada people i seen in here got nothing i mean they trow the religion away trying to be canadians like this dude asking the dump question


ahmed u go boy i like guys u are religios like u and i also like u name caz is my lovers name byeeeeeeee love ya all peace and love

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natural color

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to bluelady

first blueladay sister not only canadian bleach their selve but somali girl who are in america right now like meanapolis mn who are using diana or what ever they call but nathing chenge that much its only takes in 1month and to be white and all of them now their face change to like
m jakson and we call ''luga cooke waji faanto''
beacuse you can understand who use diana and who is natural person. people who use diana their face and their stomach are not the same even their mouth are black. and some doctors says they will get cancer and some of them they look like dog who burned his face. dont trying to be rude just telling my opening. by

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BLUELADY

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TO: NATURAL COLOR


SISTA TRUE THAT BUT DON'T U THINK CANADIANS ARE THE MOST PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN MN I NOTEC THAT BUT BLEACHING COME FROM CANADIAN PEOPLE SINCE THEY DON'T HAVE NOTHING ALS TO DO ALL THEY DO IS STUDY AND CHENGE LOOKS WELL I LIVED IN WEST COAST AND I DON'T SEE SOMALI SIS/BRO DOING THAT U KNOW WHAT I MEAN BYE THE WAY ARE U FROM CANADA TOO HUH LET ME KNOW

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ABDULQANI

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TO TBONE
BROTHER GOD SAID IN HIS QORAN....U CANT CHANGE PPL ALL U CAN DO IS TELL THEM THE TRUETH
AND IN THIS PLACE NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR THE TRUETH THAT U SAID ALL THIS TIME...BRO DONT GIVE UP JUST LIKE OUR PROPHET(MOHAMED)SWAW.


TO ALL THE SISTER....

APPEARANCE IS EASY THING TO CHANGE THIS DAYS BUT TRUELY KNOWING WHO U R ISNT AS EASY...PLEACH UR SELF AND U WILL ALWAYS B HIBO, SULEQA OR XASAN. OMAR..SO I'LL GIVE U AN ADVICE.......U WANT OTHERS TO LIKE U????? FIRST LUV UR SELF AND THINK OF THIS......THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEONE WHO IS UGLIER OR MORE GOOD LOOKIN THEN U R....SO THANK UR GOD FOR WHAT HE HAS GIVEN U..........ACCEPT THE FACT AND STOP DAY DREAMING......
PERSONALY AM THANKFULL FOR WHAT GOD HAS GAVE ME..

TO ALL OF U I LEAVE BY SAYING SALAAMU ALAIKUM.

AND AM NOT EDUCATED IN RELIGION WISE..AND IF I SAID SOMETHIN WRONG.....GOD FORGIVE ME.

THANK U 4 UR TIME

ABDULQANI

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AMRAN

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Hi people,

Hey tbone
i agree with ya bro n u know what am alwayz proud of ya coz i know it's gruntee when i see your nick there is something useful beyond your name, n beleive me i like your guts coz u talk about the truth n reality.

As they say " the truth herds" but who cares we have to talk about it since i never heard anybody died for truth,lol.
honey keep it up n i'll say this again am damnn proud of ya boyyy. jaaw n stay strong...

Luv ya jamiila ,tbone n all the brothers n sisters

PPPPPPPP.S Alwayz have faith in yourself..thanx..

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Anonymous

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HI XARFAANTA,

Idinka daya maanta xataa waxaa u soo dhigateen naga somalida haye..

Firs of all it is true dat some somalian girls use da bleaching stuff. But in every sociey, reace and culture...girls have problem fitting in da society. Some my think da reason is just..part of da style..like ya broz wear baggy pantz dat almost fallin' off n peepz can see da line between ur two buttz. Most of da people know dat bleaching is wrong but anywayz they do it. As far i am concern i do have many girl friends dat bleach them selves but they denied anyways it is non of my business cuz i ignore. Bleaching causes many dangerous disease such as skin cancer. N 2 U ALL SOMALIAN BOYZ N YA LIKE LIGHT SKIN GIRLS DAT IS WHY SOMALI GIRLS WHO HAVE DARK SKIN BLEACH THEM SELVES. THEY SHOULD SAY...YOU WANNA BE LIKE ME UR BLACK SUPER HERO.

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natural color

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to bluady

hi first sister you ask me if i am from canada no realy but what i say was that MN live more than 20 thausand somalies and i dont know who is from canada and MN but what i am saying is that most lady use how ever canadian people bring to MN for that thing so it doesn't mater if you use diana or not but they stil look like m jackson
nothing rude thing to enybody, just saying.

by

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JAMILLA

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I guess appearance is everything in todays world but if you born with beuty you ain't have nothing to conplain when it comes to natural.
We should just stick with what we have ladies but not nuetrizing our own instinct.

Since we all know nobody is perfect but still somali ladies are the top beuty ladies. Look at waris the top model & katra the cover girl with out pleaching them selfs they still rule and ladies who are dark skined should look up to them. Since they'r not all that but there are ladies who are pretier but still are pleach shadiez.

People would only judge you by who you are not what color you got there or whom you become.


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