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NEED WIFE + VIZA

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jama

Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 10:37 pm
Alaamo caleeykum,
I am young somalis who currently live in Africa and I would like to get a honest lady who lives either in USA or U.k.
If all things goes will, I will be committed to my family.
looking to hear you soon.
your brother/friend in need
jama

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Girl

Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 04:08 am
hello Jama how you doing brother, i must say this YOU´RE NOT IN AFRICA that´s for sure, if you want a honest girl start with being honest first that is my advice to you.

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jama

Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 10:01 pm
to girls
To begin with keyword honest. It is true and beyond reosanable doubt that, honest is the best policy, and it is against this background that I have built my thesis around this principle.Hence I am that average person who lives in one of the most marginalised area in the world where most peaple live below the poverty line.
However, there are some information about my self which I did not present into this formal platform.Nevertheless, I will give more information about myself to any lady who can meet the above requirment, and if only if you show me an interest. But the fact remain that I am in Africa and I need help from you. In other words,if you are very brave and courageous then, it is right time to take the risk and remember profit/gain is reward to the risk taker and not risk averse.Thus who is ready to inverst me. If "yes" e-mail me for more feasibility studies about my viability to abdle2001@yahoo.com.
With that few words, I would like to thank you for your wonderful advice, and I wish you good lucky and endless happiness in this world and Here After. Amin....
See you honey so soon.
Your Brother/Friend in need
Jama

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Girl

Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 11:35 pm
Hi brotha it´s me again as you can see
How can i believe you when you right that your name is "Jama" and your e-mail name is "abdle" wich would i think is your true name?? tell me!
Anyway you maybe in Africa and you may not there at all, however i have very less to believe to anyone from a computer becouse i don´t even believe that easely to enyone in real live.
You said that i could take a risk! am i right?
Tell me what kind of risk i am into it??

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Jama

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:46 pm
Hey girl
Eversince you have started to respond to my offer, you were unconsiderate to extent that you dont believed in what I have been staying all along. Secondly you were unwilling to reveal your name, yet you were questioning whether my real name is Jama, dont you think this is unfair. Nevertheless my name is Jama and Abdle is name of my father.
To add more, there is an old saying which says "you can lead cattle to river but you can not force them to drink the water". In netshell, I am who I have said, and I dont have ony interest to cheat onybody, after all whate is the motive for cheating somebody.
In summary, if you are an educated or uneducated who live in either one of these states and able to send me a viza, then it is right time to do so, and it is advicable to start the process with immediate effect. consider this, there are very few educated somalis in this world and these few individuels are in high demand, and remember when the demand is high the price of commodities are high, hence very difficult to find an educated somalis who did not marry in these states, and even if you find it is very difficult to play your cards well. Since these an educated peaple are very few dont you think it right time to look for market in less developing countries where an educated youn somalis with two degrees are looking for only a honest wife pluse viza for re-uniting the couple.
Dont you think it right time to inport somebody who is very capable to transform your live and quick enough to adjust himself with this dynamic world. A sombody who will get a demanding job at wall street companies(white colour jobs and not blue colour jobs) Hey it is a joke
Coming back to your question about "risk", in fact it is broad term used business which characterised with uncertainity, and according to economy scholler it is only that person who bravely accept to undertake that risk who will get profit and that profit is the reward to pains that he has undergone when he was waiting his business to take off. Similarly if you send me the viZa with anticipation that I will be your husband, then that is risk and oly can be done by a very determined person who is objective oriented person and I am looking for that person.
I agree with that you dont believe easely the pple, or you dont want easy thing, then think about this, and let me know the feed back
jama/abdle

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amal

Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 04:27 am
Hi Jama

You really impressed me with your thinking. And i do agree with you that somalis should go back home to see if they can find mr right in somalia. Personally speaking if i was to meet someone i truly liked and i thought it will work and will marry him regardless of where they live or how much money they have. I think girls/boys it's time to go back home and look for that special person if you can't find them in the west. After all that is what all the other nations do like Indians and Arabs and it's time somalis start doing it too.

Please Jama where about in Africa are you. And where were educated, as far as i can see you are more educated than most guys who live in the west.

KEEP IN Touch Bro

amal

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Jama

Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 11:35 pm
hey Amal,
thank you for your rich contributions, and your wonderful wisdom, I wish all somali girls were like you.Really I am not so educated, all I managed to get is the first degree in Managment (finance) and now I am finalising my second degree in same field (Master Busiseness Administration){finance} and if all thinks goes well, I will finish before the end of this year. However, my target is get to get goctrate.
Secondly, I am staying in Kambala, and I gratuated from and at same time studing at Makkere University. That is all.
Correction, I did not agree with you that I am more educated than those pple in West, but at least I am educated.
So happy to know your name and by way it is very good name.
see you later
your friend in making
Jama

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amal

Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 02:55 am
Hello Jama

You sound to me a really nice guy and I would like to thank you for your honesty and courage not many people would be very open about what they want. One question for you why do want to come to the west since you have already got your education? If I was you I would consider going back home to Somalia and set up some business.

I would only advice people to come to the west just to get some education and then go back home to contribute to the rebuilding of your country. I live in England and I see many brothers who are enable to fill in an application form and is not willing to do anything about. The thing is my brother, Somali guys in here have no determination or commitment and are quite happy to settle for 'dead end job'. Somalis are not taking advantage of the "free education" in this country. I would like our people to be more ambitious and aim for the stars.

hope to hear from you soon

amal

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Jama

Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 10:53 pm
hey Amal,
Thank you for for your gentle respond and concern, the underling aim of wanting me to come Westen countries is to finalise my studies and at sometime to work so that I will rise some capital for starting my business.Giving the fact that I am not so old I am within twenties and I have worked oly two years before I have started my second degrees, so I need to achieve two think, 1)to finish my studies (doctrate) 2) to get first hand experierence.
In that way I will be in better position to help my self,my country, my pple and my religion.This is becouse in this century, it is only the education which determines the sucess and the failure of the person. The only person who injoys in this world is that person who does his/her home work hence, I would like to do my home work before it became to late. in nutshell, I dont want to become dead wood in th orgonosation of organising better life in near future. In summary, this is why I have said early on that I need to meet somebody from USA or UK, becouse their education system is more less same that of my country.
With that few words I would be gratefull if we go ahead for establishing a long lasting relationship. ony way to be private, are you married. One more quesation what are you doing in Egland.
See you soon
Your brother
Jama

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Girl

Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 11:58 pm
to: Amal
I´ve gott only one advice for you please do not play with athers mind,if you know what i mean.

to: Jama

I´ll pray for you my brotha, that everything you wish comes true for you.i´ll be honest to you
that´s the only thing i can do for you "Pray"
I believe that you´re very smart guy and i know that things will be easier for you in this life.

Take care!

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amal

Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 02:23 am
Hello Jama

Once again i would like to thank you for honesty. I agree with all that you have said and i wish you luck in the future and pray all your plans go well.

I am a bit confused with this comment "few words I would be gratefull if we go ahead for establishing a long lasting relationship", please clarify this for me. I never said i was in a position to help you and i just said I would do it if I met Mr Right in a similar situation. Please forgive me if I have mislead you or offended you. To answer your questions I am not married but I am in a very serious relationship. I am currently training to become a teacher, I am hoping to complete my teacher training course summer 2002 inshallah.

TO: GIRL

I am not playing with anybody minds. I was simply voicing my opinion and putting across my ideas and principles.

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Anonymous

Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 09:11 am
dear jama;
i find you ignorant and a pathological liar.
I honestly wish that some day someone plays with
mind.I know you clam to be educated but instead you are illeducated.Since your a somalian and from
the you talk immature I am going to give you an advise some who are like you who lies too much might get use to it.''NO DISRESPECT I JUST HATE LIER.''

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Jama

Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 10:31 pm
To all my friends,
I am very sorry that I can not afford time to acknowledge your different comments, becouse at this moment I am going to attend an important semener which may take a period of three days, and I am not sure if there is any internet facility there becouse it is too remort( about 300 kms from my city). ony way once again I would like to say thank you very much for your different capacity of undastanding the said matter. and check on Tuesday for your reply. promise I will answer all your views
To Amal congratulion for your teaching proffesion in making , We rearly need a proffesional teachers. keep up your spirit.
see you Tuesday morning

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Girl

Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 11:00 pm
To: Amal
I didn´t say you were playing with enyones mind, but i was telling you do not act like you going to help this brother if you´re not going to do that that´s what i ment.
Sorry if you felt bad about my words sis.

take care you all
am not going to write here enymore.

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Jama

Monday, January 22, 2001 - 10:37 pm
To Girl

Thank you for your letter dated on 1/18/2001, 1/22/2001 and your parental advice. Indeed your words were so concern to extend that it has given me a second thought. First I need your prayer and thank you for that, secondly it is not clear what you mean , when you said " I have got anly advice for you, please do not play with others" whom did you mean "others"
Eventhough I have accepted your prayer, yet I would like to inform you categoricaly that , I am no so desparate to the extent that I need public prayer, all I did was to market my product like ony other producer and I only stated my terms of trade, that is all. on the other hand I am ready to trade ony body who who can meet these terms with out fail. Accodging to marketing concept one to sell his/her product has to carry out marketing in order to create public awareness , hence selling my self to a potential buyer, and here I only need that person not every person.
My dear girl, you might take note of that, mr Jama is not a cheap person as you might thought.
with that few words I might request you to continue to keep the ball rolling,
bye jama


To amal,
thank you very much for your letter dated on 1/18/2001. indeed your ideas were so interesting and I am happy to learn more from you . to make some clarification for the above quotion, in fact the format of your letter was so "leading" to extent that I have passed the motion. nevertheless, it could be mistake to make that proposal before I carried out a thorough research in order to establish facts on ground. However, one thing which remain unchanded is that you are very talented the way in which you presented your ideas and I am very proud to have you as a friend (not a lover)
one more time, I am very happy to learn that you involved a serious relationship with somebody, and I would like to say please keep up that relation.
thank you very much
keep up for visiting this page I like your ideas
Jama


To Anonymous,
Refering to your view dated on 1/18/2001, indeed I failed to read between lines, becouse you were tring to make some points when you can not express your self, and you said too much which I believe you could not have said if you were attended ony formal education.
I believe you wanted to air out your feeling in civiled manner, instead you put the cart before the horse and offended yourself rather than contributing to the topic.
so please mind your business next time and try to learn how to reason in civiled manner. It might be true that you are so smart and you wanted to tell the public that I am illeducated but you failed to pass that important message to the somalise community becouse you were having language problem. Here are some suggestions to your problem 1) use somalise language
try others

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amal

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 04:35 am
Hello Jama

How are you? Thanks for the above comment. Once again please for give for misleading you.

I think i should come clean, the reason why i wrote to you in the first place is. I went to Somalia last year and while i was there i met this guy i am involved in. Unfortunetly i met him when i had only 3 days remaining of my holiday. He was defiantly the type i go for looks wise and personality wise - this guy had a body to die (this is for the girls), this works out regurly.

Now things are going really well and we are getting married soon.

So Jama please keep trying in Africa, i don't think you could meet a girl thorough the internet.

Once again i do apologies.

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Jama

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 11:01 pm
To Amal
Thank you for the above comment and your advice, however, I would like to let you know this. Eversinse I reached the age of 20 yrs I was rting to get married and I failed due to some internal and external forces among which include the following:-
1) jaamacada oo aan ladhiganayay dhabdho kayimid East Africa oo ah Reer suguu, kawaas oo aan laheen dhaqankii soomaaliyeed, ahaana ku iska dhigayey Reer galbeed. Aniguna waxaan isku dayayey inaan ilaaliyo dhaqanka. taasina waxeey sababtay inaan dhameeyo jaamacadii aniga oo aanan helin qofkii aan nolasha laqeebsanlahaa.
2) Maadaama aan ahaa ninku xareesan compuska jaamacada, ma aan uhelin fursad aan ku raadsado tii aan nolash laqeebsanlahaa, maxaa yeelay waxaan kabadin waayay diyaarintii cashradeeyda.
3) Kadib markii aan dhameeyay jaamacadii, labo bilood kadib waxaan shaqo kahelay kambany ah ku international waxaayna iibedeleen wadan kale oo kuyaal Africa lakiin ay Soomaalidu aynan joogin ama ay aad iyo aad uguyartahay. Taasina waxeey sabatay inaanan fursad uhelin inaan helo gabdho soomaaliyeed oo aan lasheeykeesto. halkaana waxaa kudhamaaday labo sano oo ah jahawereer iyo hool aduun.
3) midakale mudadii aan shaqeeynayey, waxaan ogaaday inaan ubaahanay gabadh soomaaliyeed oo waxbaratay waxna kataqaan dhaqanada kala duwan ee aduunka maxaa yeelay ( qaas ahaan waxaan ahay nin proffesional ah loona tababaray inuu noqdo manager) taas oo igu qasbeesa inaan noqdo nin furfuran lana sameeyo xeer saaxiibtinimo iyo midganacsiba dadyoow kala duwan kana kalayimid wadamo kaladuwan,

Markaa hadaan qaato rayigaatii ahaa inaan soomaliya karaadsodo gabadh aan guursado, miyaadan umaleenneen in ay katimaado is afgranwaa markii aan martiqaado ninsaaxiibkey ah ama gabadha iga hoos shaqeeysa aan la aado shirkadhacay wadan kale ama, ama aan martiqaado ninka iga sareeya iyo faamilkiisa si aan uga diyaarsado saaxiibtinimo, markaa hadii aynan marwadeydu aynan garaneey luuqada dadkaas waxeey sababaysaa in aanan kuguulaysan qorshaheeygii saaxiibtinimo. iyo waxyaalo fara badan oo halkan lagu sookoobinkarin

Markaa Amaleey, inkastoo ay wacantahay inaan soomaaliya karaadsado gabadhii aan guursan lahaa, hadana waxaan kacabsanayaa inaan is la fahmiwayno nolasha, maxaayeelay aniga jaamac ahaan waxaan wadanka moogaa mudo dhan 17 sono, markaa waa yara adagtahay inaan guursado gabadh aan laheen "secular education"
Taas waxaa ulajeedaa sidan Soomaaliya malaheen doolad dhexe ilaa 1990 waxaana laga joogaa mudo ah ilaa toban sono markaa gabdhihii dadoodu udhaxeeysay 10 sano-15 sano makii sanadku ahaa 1990 waa guur doon maanta lakiin maheestaan wax education ah at all, hence it ironic to marry gabdhaa, ha urkin inaan kafaanayo laakiin sidii aan horay kuugu sheegay dhaqan ahaan isma keeneyno and I dont I want to use try and error method and I rather prefer not to get marry at all, instead of divorsing now and again.


markaa Amaley waxaan rijeeynayaa in aan maalin uun aan helidoono gabadha aan doonayo, waxaana rijeenayaa inaan kahelidoono eternatka maalin maalmaha kamid ah, qof isa raadiyay ama ubaahan qof anoo kale ah. by way :::::::

Other wise how is UK, I heard this morning one of your minister and political stragest has resigned
last night, and your prime minister is tring to fill the vacuum.

tell me about your course, what is your teaching subject, and what are you anticipating at end of your course, are you one of those few pple who move with green glasses.

last but not least, closing of your last letter seems that you technically with drown your comment, becouse you ended without inviting me to write you back.
Can`t we have relation , just friends nothing more nothing less, becouse I like your very much, and if I were known you when you were in Africa I have asked you to be my wife, but :::;
mind if you give me your telephone number , you can you use my e-mail address it is written in one of the above communication.
see you
jama

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ama

Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 01:10 am
Hello Jama

Please email in English at this address burco00good@yahoo.com. So we can have a private chat.

thanks
amal

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Anonymous

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 01:48 pm
jama i'm sorry bro. but i would say amal would be perfect for you cause you understand eachother and you can make perfect couple. but since she has someone i'm realy sorry about that. but anyways keep hoping don't give up there my be another girl like amal i hope so good lucku.

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Jama

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 10:14 pm
To anonymous
Thank you very much for your comment, but now I consider Amal like a friend, just a friend and not ony other thing.
see you friend
jama

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