     somalman | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 07:40 am
DEAR BRO & SISTERS
I AM FROM CEERIGAABO BUT UNLIKE most THOUGH I DIDNT HAVE THE PLEASURE OF GROWING UP THERE .WHILE IN SOMALIA I GREW UP IN MOGADISHU AND I WASNT THERE FOR LONG TOO ....'CAUSE I DID MOST OF MY GROWING UP ABROAD.MY BROTHERS THOUGH HAVE BEEN THERE.ALL I WANNA SAY IS SANAAG CEERIGABO OR WHICH EVERPLACE IN SOMALIA ONE IS FROM IS ALL GOOD AND ALL THE SAME.
DONT GET MY PIONT WRONG 'CAUSE I DONT MEAN SOME OF US ARE PRAISING SANAAG OR CEERIGABO AND DISRESPECTING ALL OTHER PLACES IN SOMALIA BUT THAT..... DWELLING IN THE PAST AND SAYING STUFF LIKE HOW BEAUTIFUL SANAAG IS OR WAS DOES SOOTH SOME OF THE PAINS OF NOT BEING IN SOMALIA AND NOT HAVING HAD THE CHANCE WE SHOULD HAVE HAD OF GROWING UP IN OUR BELOVED SOMALIA WHERE EVER IT MIGHT BE. BUT THAT ALL THAT WAS IS NONE EXISTANT NOW AT THE MOMENT,. AND HAD WE(not all) THE CHANCE OF LIVING THERE AGAIN IT WONT FEEL THE SAME ANY MORE ....OUR NEIGHBOURS ..not there FAMILY MEMBERS..dispersed all over the world PEOPLE..not as cheerful AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
I BELIEVE IT IS HIGH TIME TO RE-INVENT AND MAKE SANAAG WHAT IT WAS AND MUCH MORE.
IT LEAVES ME NO PRIDE TO REFFER ON OR DWELL ON WHAT WAS ..................BECAUSE WHAT WILL GIVE PLEASURE TO ME IS WHEN AS THE SAYING GOES I "REAP THE FRUITS OF MY LABOUR" IN OTHER WORD BE PROUD OF WHAT I GIVE BACK . BUILD OUT OF NOTHING ..SOMETHING THAT WILL BENIFIT THE MANY THAT HAVEN'T THE BENEFIT AND LUXURY OF CHATTING IT OUT ..ON THE NET LIKE WE ARE .MAKE UP FOR SOME OF THE BASIC GAPS IN THERE BEING.
i know some of this does seem idealistic and some of YOU would love to disagree with me but that is all cool with me 'cause YOU like me have your own ideas thus further making MY ideas equally validated.
p.s...feel free to comment please and correct my short comings. |
| mOwLiDmAcAaNe | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 09:30 pm
Ceerigaabo, The Future Capital of Somaliland.
There is no question that the Republic of Somaliland is an independent State from the rest of former "Somalia."Since the new state has born, Hargeysa served as the capital city of the nation.
Unfortunately, since the inception of Somaliland State, many Somalilanders had believed that the city of Ceeri. for many reasons deserves to be the Capital City of SL. Ceeri. is the natural beautity of SL. It has a beautiful Mountains;Daalo, Surad, himbabiris..you name it. How about the best climate?
it is an unbelievable place. This decision to transfer the power, is already underway, and Ceeri. will be named the capital city of Somaliland. Let us all celebrate and say....Ceerigaabo the capital
City of Somaliland....)) |
| samawade | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 11:05 pm
mowlid dream on man!!!!
as we all know erigavo is still in ruins due to it's ppl who are still got the same dilution that they left their houses. Unless we change that ideology and the way we perceive things erigavo will never be the same nor will it be the capital city of Somaliland.
Bro if you want some one else to come and build the city for us then think again. To us we know how beautiful erigavo was but where are we today and what is the state of our beloved family and land back home? All this destruction, disunity and fragmentation of our society is got no one else to blame but us and until we understand this and accept responsibility then our future will be in the dark. Look at burco or yaroowe for that matter these places are booming while we are still in the Stone Age.
Erigavo is for every one my brothers and sisters alhamdulilah we have peace today but the infrastructure is not in place yet. Let’s get together and motivate each one of us so that we could at least do some thing help the misfortune society back home.
Last but not least erigavo ppl are brothers and sisters and in fact they are all related. They use to live in peace and harmony to each other. It was surely a place were people share things no matter which tripe they belong to. Let us please bring that society back. |
| SOMALMAN | Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 12:25 am
mowlidmacane,
you if i didnt get u wrong...(1)you admire the beauty of erigavo and think that it is top sight to be from in somaliland.......WELL I FOR ONE THINK THAT IS ALRIGHT
......(2)you would also like to see erigavo become the capital of somaliland......I THINK THAT WHEN ONE DIES THEN IT IS PROPER TO DO A BURIAL,WHAT I MEAN IS GIVE SOMALIA THE COUNTRY OF YOUR BIRTH A CHANCE AND IF SOMALIA DOESNT WORK OUT THEN FEEL FREE TO MENTION A SEPARATED AND DISUNITED SOMALIA THEN CALL IT SOMALIA AND SOMALILAND.'CAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT PRECOLONIAL SOMALIA IT WAS ONE OND ONLY ONE....BUT DURING AND AFTER COLONIZATION WE(SOMALIS) GOT FRAGMENTED INTO FIVE PARTS AS OUR FIVE-SIDED STAR IN OUR FLAG INDICATES. SOMALIA--BEING THE UNION OF ONLY 2 FRAGMENTS,THE OTHERS BEING 3.OGADEN 4.NFD 5.DJIBOUTI.
SO WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND IS HOW COME A MAN OF ASPIRATION AND AMBITION RATHER DIVIDE HIS HOME AND WANT ONLY ONE FIFTH OF THE LAND YOUR CLANS MEN SHED BLOOD TO ATTAIN AND MAINTAIN...WELL ONE MAN CANT UNDERSTAND ALL PEOPLE AND YOU MOWLIDMACANE ARE ONE THAT REALLY I DONT WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE REASON OF YOUR LOGIC AND DELUDED CONCLUSION.BE A MAN STEP TO IT DONT GO FOR LESS....
SAMAWADE....WHAT U SAY IS SOMETHING I COULDNT PUT INTO WORDS AND A FEELING AND A THOUGHT I HAVE BUT HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO PUT INTO WORDS ......CHEERS |
| mOwLiDmAcAaNe | Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 09:39 pm
Samawade,
I do respect your idea & comment! brilliant, thanks.
Somalman.
I do respect too but I don't want to take up this issue, nor I am interested in your rhetoric British bashing and Somaliland historical interpretation. the atrocities suffered under the big Somalia rule, against Somaliland people is unforgettable. Brother, you have a lot of debt to pay back! Don't worry about Somaliland & their peaple Basanbuur & Ba'rikeeye…. Worry about Somalia our brothers, and our blood, and the forces of distraction,who still rule Mogadishu with malice.
Wa bilaahi towfiiq. |
| Samawade | Friday, February 02, 2001 - 04:44 am
Thanks mowlid and somalman.
I only got a small question. Could some one tell me the reason we want to separate Somaliland from the rest of Somalia. I know this is a sensitive issue but I believe it is important that we all know the reason we want this separation.
Any one who want to answer this question is well come but you should please refrain your self from the tripe issue if can be helped.
Myself I am in favor of Somaliland being a separate autonomy from the rest of Somalia but not a 100% separation, after all we are the same people, and if one believes that the atrocities suffered by the Somaliland people is the cause of this separation then we really got a long why to go and lot to learn. We must understand that we all (somalian’s ) been to this dreadful period.
I also believe and support any idea of regional autonomy so that the people in that region could build their own homeland. This does not mean we should forget the rest of Somalia including NFD and Ogadenia region as well as Djabouti.
I believe the country is enough for all of us and we could live peacefully and prosper if we stop living in the pass and focus on the future.
My allah guide each and every on of us so that we could see the people on the other side of the fence our brothers but not our enemy. |
| mOwLiDmAcAaNe | Friday, February 02, 2001 - 06:11 am
To: Samowade,
Subject: your question
Copy: Somalman
Time and again, united Somalia only brought havoc and mistrust to the people of Somaliland. Somalia and Somaliland will never be unite legally again. as long Somalia is a hatchet, if the people want to establish their state, why are so many against it? hypocrisy!!!!!!!for those who apposes it, first of all show up some hospitality and health state.
Wa bilaahi towfiif. |
| Jidali | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 05:13 am
Mowlid, you are merely dreaming, I wonder when you are going to wake up buddy.
As long as waji Adag lives Ergavo will remain the greater Somalia, and your dream or marduufland will not meterilise.
Jidali |
| ceel boy | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 10:14 am
Hi guys,
I would like to say just quick word here that is why every youngsters talking about nonsense things like Somalia and Somali land sepration or reunification. bros and sis forget about that to day we will talk about that when the time is right. but let us talk how we will develop our countries that is all |
| mOwLiDmAcAaNe | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 04:23 pm
Mr Jiidali-man
I haven't a clue, but I'll bet that you are going to tell me and that somehow it will be intended as an insult for moi. "Weji-adag & Marduufland"??.
I'm not here to confront nor vituperate......!
Eventually, You & me are from one community and have one common interest "Peace and Love" for Suuqa Sare and Suuqa Hoose, despite different ethnic and viewpoint.
ambition of greater Somalia is unreliable now, reunion will authorise only terrorism.. willy-nilly. |
| SOMALMAN | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 08:23 pm
mowlidmacane,
dear friend i for one am not narrow minded but thick when it comes to my beliefs and ideas. I WAS NOT AS YOU PUT IT BRITISH BASHING..you see they arent worth it AND i didnt name any former colonial power . BUT YOU SAID "the atrocities suffered under the big Somalia rule, against Somaliland people is unforgettable. "...WELL HOW DO YOU SEE TWO SOMALIAS AND SO AUTHORITAVELY FUTHER SAY"ambition of greater Somalia is unreliable now, reunion will authorise only terrorism ". MAN SOMALILAND IS SOMALIA.
IF OU SAY NORTHERNERS SHED THE MOST BLOOD IN EVERY STAGE OF SOMALIAS HISTORY i for one wont disagree even before the independence of somalia...INFACT SOMALIA DID GET INDEPENDENCE DIRECTLY THROUGH THE BRAVERY OF NORTHERNERS AND OUR UNDYING DESIRE OR RETAINING OUR FORMER GLORY AS A PEOPLE...I MEAN WE ARE THE ONLY COUNTRY IN AFRICA THAT DEFIED ALL AND STILL GOT UNITED EVEN AFTER BEING SEPARATED ....i for one am very proud and forever grate full to those brave knights of our past of whom a large percentage were northerners.YESTERDAYS SACRIFICE ON THEIR BEHALF SHALL NOT BE OVERLOOKED TODAY MY FRIEND.
samawade.
some of the above should also help you ...for no man is satisfied with less even it less be your home for centuries...........THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THAT WE HAVE A TENDENCY OF ASKING AND OF HEEDING THE WORD OF OUR PAST..by that i mean listening to the words ofmen who are extremely hatred filled(elders/chiefs) who cant forgive and forget and let bygones be bygones. they are for one iliterate and thus making thier opinions and ideas OBSOLETE...BUT THIER EXPERIENCE A GOLD MINE.
SAMAWADE I AM SURE YOU HEARD THE SAYING "BLOOD RUNS THE THICKEST OF ALL" AND THAT IS THE HURDLE OUR ELDERS CANT GET THROUGH AND LET ALL THEIR GRUDGES BE GRUDGES AND LET THE WORLD CONTINUE.SO I PERSONALLY DONT WANT TO LISTEN TO THE WORDS OF MEN WHOSE HATRED AND AMBITION BLINDS THEM ALL.MAN TO HELL WITH THE OLD WE ARE HERE AND WE SHOULD THINK FOR OURSELVES AND SEEK ADVICE ONLY WHEN NEEDED........... AND I DONT THINK ADVICE IS REQUIRED WHEN ONE HAS THE DESIRE OF RECREATING WHAT ALREADY IS IN EXISTANCE AND THE MIND TO KEEP IT THAT WAY(SOMALIA)
JIDALI
MAN WHERE U ARE FROM DOESNT MATTER BUT THAT I AM GLAD U AND I HAVE A COMMON ASPIRATIONS.......HALALUYA PRAISE THE LORD.....LOL |
| Samawade | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 11:36 pm
Mr jiidali
Walaalo I do think every one is entitle on his opinion. If some of us believe a separation and some of you don’t like the idea what we need to do is to talk about it so that we convince each other. My intention is clear walaalo I have no hostility towards any one no matter which tripe or part of the country you from. But what I want is to build our beloved land so that our people would have the opportunity to create like any other society after all we have a wealth land and environment why should we depend on either Somaliland or Somalia. For these names you call us (erigavo people “weji adag and mardufland) I think is wrong bro cuze we are the same whether they from the ( cal or banaan) we are the same people and related. Let us please forget the pass for the sake of rebuilding the future of our people and land.
Ceel boy
Thanks bro I know where you coming from bro but if we do not talk about the problems we are facing and deal with it, there is no way we could look to the future. Yes we are in Somaliland geographically but so far what have they done for us. It’s the people we created the peace for us but not the so called Somaliland government and unless we see that and start resolving our problems internally then we have no option but to go under any one who says so.
Mowliid
I respect your opinion walaalo and I think you going the right way about not falling to the tripe trap well done bro for that but you need to open your eyes and broaden your horizon. Yes we suffer a lot but so the rest of Somalia. We know the focal point became the capital so that every minute thing we need we had no option but to go to the capital. Don’t let this cloud your judgment bro you see collectively we could put back Somali on the map and even claim what is right for us(nfd, ogadenai and djabout) but we could do this even if we create a regional autonomy so that we are internally responsible on our internal affairs.
Somalman
Walaalo half of what you saying is true. Yes it’s time we should stop listening to the elders who are preaching hate let us leave the pass to were it belongs to and focus on our future. To me some of us are still carrying that hated ideology forward and unless we recognize this disease and deal with it then we are no better than those killing each other. Bro we all want to form and create a stable society, which is free for all form of hate and social segregation, but our approach is different alxamdulilah we are talking. A health argument is good walaalo cus we could debate and identify any loopholes.
Somaliman since I admire your courage I would like to give you a lesson walaalo as you said you haven’t been to erigavo for long time, it’s my duty to remind you our slogan and surely HALALUYA is not part of it..LOL……
My brothers and sisters I could be wrong but I believe our success depend on our efforts and I mean erigavo people not section of it but together all of us. I also believe the rest of the country is also our responsibility whether we like it or not after all they are our brothers and sisters. And we should treat them with respect not the way the igal government treat the Somalian’s they call sheikhs and gave them to the Ethiopian, which are our NO.1 enemy.
Finally I believe the Somali saying “oodi ab ka dhow” and I want to make this reality. |
| cali_ceerigaabo | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 01:07 am
to all,
well-done and congratulations............
these master peaces of articles.......
for a moment i wasn't sure whether i was reading some politics magazine or articles written by fellow young somali intellectuals......
i have read all the different opinions and ideas....
and i think each and every opinion is unique, inspiring and toughtfull.........
AND THERE IS NO WORNG OR WRITE IN THIS DISSCUSION!
however, in my opinion i think that if we really r 2 move forward then, we must first and foremost consdier the past, recognise its pro's con's, analyse it and then try and 2 look forward 2 brighter future!
jus forgetten and forgiving isn't the answer in here........
couz ther will always those people who will continue believeing that they have been mistreated and masacared!
and as long as those continue holding back 2 their feelings........then we would not move 1 step 4ward!
I THINK THAT IF WE REALLUY WANNA MOVE FORWARD, THEN SHOULD 1 SERIOUS DEBATE AND CONFERENCE WHERE BY CAN DISSCUESS THE PAST............
AT THE END TRY AND ANALYSE WHAT THEY HAVE LEARNT FROM IT.....
THEN THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY REALLY WANT FROM THE FUTURE......surelly every 1 wants brighter and prosprose future them self's and childeren!
so in conclution i think...... that to move forward we must actually close the past chapter...
regrading the seperaion and reunion issue....
i think the history it self's shows that somalia was always 1 before the british and the italains arrived in the 19th century......
so do we really want 2 recreate what the colnials invented and desgined so we can develop into smaller, weaker states...........!
SEPERATION= WEAKNESS
UNION=STRENGH
ALL OF OUR NEIGHBOURS AND ENEMIS DON'T WANT 2 C UNITED STRONG SOMALIA, BECOUSE IT WILL REPRESENT INSPIRATION, COMPETITION AND THREAT 2 THEM!
BUT, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT LEAVE IN PEACE AND HARMONY WITH OUR BROTHERS AND FRIENDS IN ETHIOPIA AND KENYA AND YEMAN!!((((((((OVER MY DEAD BODY)))LOL
anyways, i have got a class right now...so i'll b writing back later......so.....macasalama! |
| ossy | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 08:06 am
I do understand that unity is not bad idea, but one must learn from the lessons of life.
we can not simply turn a blind eye to what happen in somalia, and untill we got to the bottom of this then should we be in a postion to consider unity
we dont want a repetition of what had happened in somalia. The havoc and total disaster that has engloved our country in the past 12 years.
so one must consider seriuosly the pros and cons of unity.
finally in my opnion we have to move forward and rebuild our lifes first before we consider help others and unity.
also giving a chance for this regional gov'ment to work before we try unity.
somaliland has so far done it's best interms of rebiulding and moving forward, there was no reprisal for the deeds that were commited against them, they simply try and imatate statehoodness, which to thier creditor been successful.
maybe it's time we change the style of gov'ment, and try and explore different ideas, because as the evident clearly presents unity has failed.
maybe the best solution is federal gov'ment, withno internal powers just extenal ones only. |
| mOwLiD-mAcAaNe | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 05:02 pm
To: Samowade, and Ossy
Thanks, bro. I do, I w'll and never and ever fell on tribe matter; I’m not interesting too
Erigavo is my hometown therefore I have to respect their people.
Ali –Erigabo,LOL
you are right bro the unity is good and separation is bad, but unity with "Mooryaan"lol
Let’s get one things straight Somali-land has already gone and its sovereign
Country at the moment including my hometown Erigavo moved on and made something’s for their self, PEACE AND LOVE.
Somalman
Northern Somalia is Somaliland whether it hurt some remnant of the old
Revolution it’s their personal Dilemma, the revolution era is over & I will not look back the evilTook place for 30 years.
Many of us have to wake up und smell the coffee cuz we have to move forward!! |
| Samawade | Friday, February 09, 2001 - 04:21 am
Thanks for all
Each and every one of us would like to see a prosper society that could support it self and at the same time able to look after its own ppl. At the moment our ppl are still living in the Stone Age, the young ppl are growing up with little or no education. The schools are in a bad shapes and teacher have no one to support. Surely without a proper government these ppl who are trying to make a difference can’t cope. And without the support of the indigenous ppl who lives abroad, then their effort will be not more but a dream. Some places in Somali are doing better than the others and they also paying an attractive salary to get teachers from other part of the country. We all know these teachers have families they need to feed, yes they are helping the society with a good heart at the moment but they also need to survive. Because of this they are more likely to move to these places if we don’t get our act together.
The question is what do we need to do about this satiation? How do we start the rebuilding process? Do we need to wait for an external body to come and fix the satiation back home? And where do we start? |
| ceelboy | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 03:12 pm
to Samawade
Thanks bro and i am happy that you know where i come from. Let me give you an example, that place i came from really for last four years we made development such as health, education, and water. infact that success did not come outomaticaly, but we worked on hard with out tripes, or stuff like that so bro what i am trying to tell you is let us face the reality, and beleive me if there is traplism there is a disaster |
| Jidali | Sunday, February 11, 2001 - 03:21 am
This is somewhat bewildered me a great deal.
I see some learned young the fruits of Sanaag coming here and discussing things wich are merely insipid.
Our region is now one of the greatest under-developed regions of whole Somalia, and here we are intoxcicated with the silly ideas that are inherited with our folly elders.
It is a shame to witness such thing.
Mowlid macane: what is the benefit of Somaliland for the people of Sanag?.
I went to a meeting the other day, and the meeting was about the agenda of Puntland regional Gov.. for Sanag Region! and there were alot of anomosity towards Somaliland. And the similar thing is happening the other side of the river, people who suppposrt the idea of Somaliland equally have this anomosity towards Puntaland and the matter of Somalia as a whole.
Where does this leave us?. It leaves us a deprived state, no proper education and clean water and the all cardinal needs that our community is need for.
Let us wake to the reality and be one.
Jidali |
| Muse ismail | Thursday, March 08, 2001 - 09:12 am
Good Idea Jidali. I agree with you entirely.
I went to Ergavo couple months ago and the city was full of people from all the diffrent clans "like yours and mine" but there were nothing happening. You go to Hargeisa and you see a beutiful city and equally that is the case in Bosaso I would have thought. Where does this get take us as The people of sanag. |
| KILO | Monday, March 12, 2001 - 08:28 am
TO- JIDALI....
I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU KEEP TALKING THE UNITY OF SOMALIA,BEING A SOMALILANDER I DON'T EVEN LET MY LAND A PIECE OF EARTH TO BE CONQUERED BY SO CALLED SOMALIA.WHEN YOU(JIDALI)GET A LAND WHICH IS BELONGED TO YOU YOU CAN UNITE WITH SOMALIA.
AND I CAN BET YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE SO CALLED OR THE REMAININGS OF SIAD BARRE'S WORKERS,IF YOU ARE A MAN WHO'S REAL SANAGIS OR THE PEOPLE BELONG TO SOMALILAND YOU CAN'T EVEN PUT THIS TOPIC IN HERE,BUT UNFORTUNATELY,YOU ARE DISGRACED AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHTS BEING AMONG THE INHABITANTS OF ERIGAVO AS WELL AS SOMALILAND..
KILO-
12-03-01 MONDAY 12:00PM |
| Anonymous | Wednesday, March 14, 2001 - 10:06 am
March 14/2001
Walaalayaal
Can people of Erigavo stay away
from "QABYAALAD" which is
what destroyed us all?
Qabyaaladdu waa waxa ugu xun ee
qof baniaadam ah ku dhici karta.
Waa cudur aan dawo lahayn.
Qofka qabyaalad ku dhaqma
Ilaahay agtiisa sharaf
kuma laha,waana irrational
aan maskaxdiisu si fiican u shaqayn.
Maxa waxaad rabtaa raxmaddii
Ilaahay iyo aakhiradaadii
inaad ku doorsatid qabiil aan
waxba kuu qaban karin.
When it comes between Allah and Qabiil,
I will choose Allaah. I will put humanity
before qabyaalad
(Ilaahay ummadda ha ka daweeyee).
No more no less.
It would be a great opportunity
if we start from this
net a group ofpeople
who are dedicated to
a society without any
qabyaalad whatsoever.
I challenge you all to do that!
Waad mahadsantihiin.
A man from Erigavo
who hates qabyaalada. |
| samawade | Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 03:44 am
kilo
Take it easy bro. Jidali belongs to a people bro and they are entitled to call what they feel like it. we all from erigavo but different tripe’s and background. yes we are different so as our opinions. Somaliland is part of Somalia and we all are somalians no matter what you call your self. Let’s forget Somalia and Somaliland for a minute and focus how and when we are going to help our society in erigavo interms of schools, hospitals, clean water and so on. |
| Anonymous | Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 07:28 am
March 15/01
Please, please, qabyalada iska daaya.
Qof qabiil ku dhaqmay waa nacas
jaahil oo Ilaahay nacay.
"Dugsi ma laha qabyaaladi waxay
dumiso mooyee".
We are all reer ceerigaabo.
Kuwa aad isku qabiilka tihiin
waxaa kaaga dhow qofka aad
magaalada wada degtaan
oo kal guursataan oo aad isku
galaaska ahaydeen oo si
fiican isu fahantaan.
Aynu ka fekero sidaynu u dhisi lahayn magaaladeenii.
maynu ka hadalo sidaynu wado laami
ah aynu u dhisan lahayn.
Maynu ka hadalo sidaynu
jaamicaddo u dhisan lahayn.
Maynu ka hadalo sidii dadkeena
walaalaha ah ee Ceerigaabo
wada dega laysugu soo dhaween lahaa.
Addunyadii waad aragtan halkay marayso.
Ma waxaad dib inoogu celinaysaan
bahashii qudhunka ahayd ee qabyaalada?
Let's be a role- model for everybody.
Ka xorooba qabiil yuuna dib idiin dhigine.
qabyaalada bahasha la yiraahdaa
waxay ka soo horjeedaa wixii
horumar ah oo dhan.
Ma waxaad rabtaan inaynu dib
u dhac uun ku jiro?
Goorma ayanu wax qabsanaynaa?
Qofkaad wada degan tihiin
baad is tihiin.
WALAALAYAAL KUWA
MEELAHA KALE KA YIMI(DHINACAY DOONATABA HA AHAATEE)YAY ISKU KEEN DIRIN.
Nin Reer Ceerigaabo ah
oo qabiilka neceb (# 37) |
| kilo | Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 08:57 am
hi bro samawade,
at the very begining,i would like to thank every one from erigavo region especially SAMAWADE,
i like people those who think about the development of their people,their land like you bro,i thank you so much bro.
i must be mistaken by talking such people who do unable to differentiate their opinion from others.
i am SO happy to have people like you because you made me undersatand the whole matter.
thank you very much bro SAMAWADE...
BYEEEEEEEEE |
| Anonymous | Monday, March 19, 2001 - 10:17 am
March 19.01
Brothers and sisters
I want you all to refrain from qabyaalad and its nonsense activities; it doesn't help anyone.
It is a backward idea and it is time to get rid of it; i.e destroy it .
we need to come together and do something for our region.
No one else will do anything for our region if
we don't.
Forget about the government that exist in Somaliland today; it hasn't helped and it
wil not help Sanaag region.
It is we who must build our region.
the question is:
what can we do to build our sanaag region
collectively?
thanks
A man from Erigavo
who hates tribalism (#37) |
| Anonymous | Monday, March 19, 2001 - 10:24 am
People from Sanaag need roads, hospitals, universties, small scale industries so that the commerce can prosper and they can live together peacefully.
don't wait anything from the current Somaliland government; they can't do it. They may not have the resources to do or they may not be interested in Erigavo as they do in Hargiesa or Burco.
That is a reality.
No body will do anything for you unless you do it for yourself.
A man from sanag |
| qashuush didiye | Tuesday, March 20, 2001 - 07:25 am
heestii soomaaliya ugy fiicnayd.
oliliyaay...oliliyaay...iidoor...oliliyaay.......
olliyaay ixaaq oliliyaay........oliliyaay.......
oliliyaay qashuush oliliyaay....oliliyaay.........
oliliyaay e- xaaq liliyaay............... |
| Samawade | Tuesday, March 20, 2001 - 10:30 pm
qashuush didiye
sxb ma garanayo inaad waalan tahay ama aad xanuunsanaysid markaa anigu waxan ku odhan lahaa dadkan aad rabto inaad isku dirtid iyaga ayaa iska kaa xiga e orod meesha iskaga bax oo qudhunkaaga la doono meel kale. |
| Anonymous | Wednesday, March 21, 2001 - 02:29 pm
RE: samawade
Aad baad u mahadsantahay samawadow.
Qushuush didiye waa jaahil aan caqli lahayn oo wuxuu ku hadlo garan waayay.
Bal eeg faraqa adiga iyo isaga idiin dhexeeya.
Thank you samawade, nin qabiiil ka xoroobay ayaad tahaye.
Waa sidaa aad sheegtaye Qushuush didiyow anagaa iska kaa xigan haddaanu reer sanaag nahay.
Bari, Galbeed iyo koonfur midna uma baahnin.
Walaalow na daa oo shaqo kale raadso.
Nin Reer Sanaag
oo qabiilka madaxu ka xanuuno |
| Qabiil-ka-xoroobe | Monday, March 26, 2001 - 08:27 am
To: Samawade,Muse Ismail, Jidali, Kilo, Ceelboy and other openminded individuals.
Walaalayaal talo keena sidii wado laami oo gobolka sanaag waddanka intiisa kale ku xidha loo dhisi lahaa.
Without this, wax horumar ma gaadhi karo habe yaraatee.
United nations arrinatan wax ma qaban karaan?
Dowlado kale arrintan wax ma qaban karaan?
Non-profit organizations wax ma qaban karaan?
Annigu talo hadda ma hayo laakin wixii war waan soo raadinyaa, idinkana sidaas ayaan idinka filayaa.
nabad gelyo
Qabiil-ka-xoroobe |
| somalman | Tuesday, March 27, 2001 - 02:14 am
dear BROS & SISTERS,
AS THE AUTHOR OF THIS DISCUSION I THANK U ALL FOR YOUR HONEST AND FULL HEARTED PARTICIPATION.IT WAS MY INTENTION TO GET TO KNOW MORE AND TELL OTHERS SOMETHINGS ABOUT ERIGAVO AND SANAAG..I CAN SURELY SAY SOME OF MY IDEAS HAVE BEEN RIGHTFULLY CHANGED WITH BETTER CONCEPTS AND I AM NOW IN ANOTHER LEVEL OF PERCEPTION.
YOU SEE I HAVE REFRAINED TO TAKE PART IN THE LATER PORTIONS OF THIS DISCUSSION CAUSE I SAW IT WAS BECOMING UNFRUITFULL, but now i am quite pleased with the turn out of events and the constructive thought running its course
samawade....... as all ways you shine man
anonymous 37#.......thank u and u are an educator to say the least.
to the rest of you please read anonymous 37# again as a reference to logical thinking... :-)
question:- what exactly is the traditional or basic means of income at present in sanaag
2:-what are facilities are there at present(schools ,cottage industries ,clinics (general and dental) .. etc)
3:- despite sending money back home what else are we as a whole doing about it. i think these are some questions which before answering we all should do some research into because what was 3 months ago is now news to write about but what are the current statistics at present. cause these questions are at the core. when we first handedly know what is missing then do we know what to build individually or as a group any which way the end product being the same( better for all).
what i am sayin is let us get something small or big in the works cause i am in a possition of being able to locate various things.
i am a man of action if that is what this discussion is abouT AND if not this discussion if only wasting time so lets get together and do one of the two. |
| Qabiil-ka-xoreebe #37 | Tuesday, March 27, 2001 - 02:52 pm
SOMALMAN...................
This is qabiil-ka xoreebe(formerly anonymous #37)
Ceerigaabo waxay leedahay:
only 1 hospital
1 high school
No paved roads which links it to the rest of the country.
The hospital requires doctors, nurses, medicine equipment all of which are in short supply currently.
The school requires, textbooks, qualified teachers, desks and host of other items.
I don't know where roads must be built be it from Erigavo to Burco or from Erigavo to Bosaaso but the region requires waddo laami ah.
I, for one, don't care which side the road goes to and I urge all Erigavo people to be openminded and to base their decisons on a rationale analysis and not on qabiil which is dangerous and destructive.
It is essential that this road be built as soon as possible.
I don't know how far burco is from Erigavo
I don't know how far bosaaso road is Bossaaso is from Erigavo.
Perhaps someone will come forward and update us.
Samawade: I personally don't know you but I do know your wonderful ideas.
You are man of all people: We need you, and all other good sanaag people such as Ceelboy,somalman, to mobilize everything you can.
We have to have this road or our region will be a history.
If I call Erigavo within this week perhaps I will ask people what their opinion is as well as how far the paved roads are from Erigvao.
PLEASE CONTRIBUTE WITH IDEAS, TALO IYO TUSAALEBA.
waxay |
| Qabiil-ka-xoreebe #37 | Tuesday, March 27, 2001 - 03:03 pm
SOMALMAN...................
This is qabiil-ka xoreebe(formerly anonymous #37)
Ceerigaabo waxay leedahay:
only 1 hospital
1 high school
No paved roads which links it to the rest of the country.
The hospital requires doctors, nurses, medicine equipment all of which are in short supply currently.
The school requires, textbooks, qualified teachers, desks and host of other items.
I don't know where roads must be built be it from Erigavo to Burco or from Erigavo to Bosaaso but the region requires waddo laami ah.
I, for one, don't care which side the road goes to and I urge all Erigavo people to be openminded and to base their decisons on a rationale analysis and not on qabiil which is dangerous and destructive.
It is essential that this road be built as soon as possible.
I don't know how far burco is from Erigavo
I don't know how far bosaaso road is from Erigavo.
Perhaps someone will come forward and update us.
Samawade: I personally don't know you but I do know your wonderful ideas.
You are man of all people and we need your ideas especially on this matter(the road).
I would like also to solicit ideas from , and all other good sanaag people such as Ceelboy,kilo, Jidali, muse Ismail(if that is a real name indeed) and all other good sanaag people who want to help their region regardless of where they are.
We have to have this road or our region will be a history.
If I call Erigavo within this week perhaps I will ask people what their opinion is as well as how far the paved roads are from Erigvao.
Once we know the length of the road then some of us may call the U.N. agencies that may help us build this road.
until we need to collect data.
PLEASE CONTRIBUTE WITH IDEAS, TALO IYO TUSAALEBA. |
| Qabiil-ka-xoreebe #37 | Tuesday, March 27, 2001 - 03:20 pm
SOMALMAN...................
This is qabiil-ka xoreebe(formerly anonymous #37)
Ceerigaabo waxay leedahay:
only 1 hospital
few private clinics
1 high school
few private schools
No paved roads which links it to the rest of the country.
Wershadii qorigu(sawmilll factory)way xidhan tahay.
Wershadii kaluunka ee laasqoray way xidhan tahay.
wershado kalena ha yaraatee gobolku ma laha.
The hospital requires doctors, nurses, medicine equipment all of which are in short supply currently.
The school requires, textbooks, qualified teachers, desks and host of other items.
Wadada dhinacii la doonaba ha laga dhisee(from Erigavo to Burco or from Erigavo to Bosaaso) waddo waa loo baahan yahay.
I urge all Erigavo people to be openminded and to base their decisons on a rationale analysis and not on qabiil which is dangerous and destructive.
It is essential that the road be built as soon as possible.Ceerigaabo magaalo aad u camiran ayay noqonaysaa hadday waddo laami ah hesho.
ma garanayo intay Ceerigaabo iyo Burco isu jiraan.
Mana garanayo intay Ceerigaabo iyo Bosaaso isu jiraan.
wadada labada dhinacba waa laga dhisi karaa.
Mar walba innaga uun baa faaaidayna.
Perhaps someone will come forward and update us.
Samawade: Kuma aqaani laakin waxaa tahay nin raga oo dadnimad yaqaana Ilaahayna ka baqa. I respect your wonderful ideas.
Arrintan maxaad ka oran lahayd?
Ceelboy,kilo, Jidali, muse Ismail(if that is a real name indeed)fadlan fikradiina dhiibta wixii war ah(hard data) ee aad haysaana nala soo socodsiiya.
We have to have this road or our region will never be developed.
waxaan isku dayayaa in wixii war aan idinla socodsiiyo.
Markaynu dhereka wadada helo ayaa qaar innaga mid ah wici karaan U.N. agencieska arrimahamn dadka ka caawiya.
until we need to collect data.
PLEASE CONTRIBUTE WITH IDEAS, TALO IYO TUSAALEBA. |
| SOMALMAN | Monday, April 02, 2001 - 09:47 am
to all,
I HEAR ALL OF U LOUD AND CLEAR ABOUT ALL THE ABOVE CONCERNS YOU BRING TO LIFE IN YOUR MESSAGES AND I AGREE .. NOW HERE ARE SOME OF MY THOUGHTS
1- A ROAD NEEDS MONEY BEYOND CONTRIBUTION CAN SUPPLY.It needs geographic and soil study,it needs hardware beyond that which is present in erigavo .,and last but not least a ROAD HAS 2 ENDS a specific start piont and an end piont....meaning where ever it ends IT WILL END AT SOME ONE ELSES BACKYARD AND we cannot take it to another city without cooperation on both sides....i mean not even to mention the engineers required CAN BE SCRAMBLED TOGETHER .ALL THIS MAKES THIS ENDEAVOUR ONE NOT TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY AND CERTAINLY ONE I DOUBT WILL RECEAVE A SOLUTION ON THE NET.
2-THE SCHOOLS ARE A SIMPLER MORE IMPORTANT CAUSE OF CONCERN TO ME AND AS YOU HAVE ALREADY STATED TO YOU TOO.CONTRIBUTION IS A NECESSITY .....but who will be entrusted to this money and its proper utilisation and how will this be done are QUESTIONS I THINK SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP IN THIS DISCUSION.
3- I INVITE ALL CAPABLE OF SOLVING SOME OF THESE LOGISTIC PROBLEMS TO ENLIGHTEN ME AND THE REST .................till next time.....peace 2 u all. |
