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SomaliNet Forum (Archive): Soomaali Galbeed: Archive (Before Feb. 16, 2001): Magaca Ogaadeeniya laguma xorayn karo Soomaali-Galbeed
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Anonymous

Saturday, December 16, 2000 - 03:56 pm
Urur xambaarsan magac qabiili ah ma qaadi karo
masuuliyadda ah in laga xoreeyo Soomaali-Galbeed
gumaysiga Tigreega.Jabhadda la Magac-baxday Jabhadda Xoreynta ogaadeniya waa jabhadda nuxurkeedu ku salaysan-yahay qabiil oo aan waxba u ogalayn qabiilada kale ee ku nool Soomali-Galbeed. Gumaysiga Tigreeega ee dalalaka ree galbeedka sida hagar-laanta ah u taageersanyihiin
jabhad fasafadeedu iyo magaceegu yahay qabiil uma babac-dhigi karo.Dadka somali-galbeed waa in ay samaystaan Jabhada ay u wada dhan-yihiin dadkeedu
lehna magac Soomaaliyeed ee aan lahayn magaca Ogaden ee Soomaali-diidka ah.

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maxamed soomaali

Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 12:24 am
runtii aad baan ula qabaa arintaas qoraaga, waxaan u arkaa arin laga yaxyaxo in dad wax garad oo ku abtirsadaa magaca beeshaas kor ku xusan ay qabaan fikradaas. Waxaan kula talin lahaa qof walba oo soomaali ah oo taageersan qadiyadda soomaali galbeed inuu ka feejignaado in qadiyaddaas loo maro magac qabiil sidii doonaba ha ahaado. qofkii yaqaana ama xiriir la leh madaxda sare ee ururka ONLF waxaan ka codsanayaa inuu iga gaarsiiyo in ay qaadaan talaabo geesinimo ah oo ah iney ka tanasulaan magaca uu gumeysigu ku kala qoqobey ummadda soomaaliyeed.
QADIYYADDA SOOMAALI GALBEED WAA QADDIYYAD UU LEEYAHAY QOF WALBA OO SOOMAALI NADIIF OO ILAAHEY YAQAAN MEESHUU DOONABA DUNIDA HAKA JOOGEE

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sacdiyo

Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 12:39 pm
Marka ugu horeysa waxaan qabaa ineydaan u dhalan qabiilka ogaadeen la dhaho, waxbana eydaan wax kala socan taariikhda aduunka. Soomaaliye wey kala baxday cid walibana waxay degtay meeshii awowgeed uu ku dhashay. Maxaa markaa ogaadeenya u diiday iney dhulkeeda sheegato. Halse ogaada waad oran kartaa waxaad rabtiin belse ogaandeenya ogaadeen baa leh cidna kale oo qabiilada yar yar oo meel ay tagto waayay waxba nagama gelin.

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JABHAD

Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 04:20 pm
sacdiyo afkaada caano laguqabay, sacdiyaay runti aniga iyo adigaa isku fiicnaani laheyd, walaaley xaas amaatahay!
anigu dadka banaanka kaqeeyliyo lamahadlo ninki dacwad qabo intuu Ogaadeeniya tago sidii naas ha uhadlo hadaanan rasaas lagu idbin adinkoo kalaan ahey, Ogaadeeniya Ogaadeen baaleh, ama aan xoreysano ama sideedaa hanoo ahaato, anagaa udhimano anagaana unool, dadka netka wax kuqoro waa dadka ogaadeen ku dhex noolaa oo waligoodba reerka katirsanaa ee waxba netka ha iskuqarin marbay gacan teyda kulul kuheli.

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Anonymous

Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 10:43 pm
saxiib waxaan aamin sanahay inaad sikhalan aad wax u fahan san tahay eeyaan lagula yaabin ee kadaa waxaad meelah ku sooqor tay ha ka hadlin qabiil iyo waxaan loojoogin. waxaan kaloon kuusheegayaa magaca Ogadeen ma aha mid hada cusub ee waa magac soojiray saas ku baro waxii kale ee aad ubaahan tahay ee caq li ah na anaa kkufahan siindoona...........

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Fahma

Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 11:51 pm
Asalaamu calaykum

Walaalayaal waxaa fiican inaynaa isku celcelinin magaca loo bixin lahaa OGAADEENYA hadii uu Ilaahay xoreeyo laakiin aan muhiimadda siino sidii ay ku xoroobi lahayd, waxaana wax lala yaabo ah in uu qof yiraahdo sababta ay ku xoroobi karto Ogaadeenya waa iyadoo magaca Ogaadeenya laga tiraa. Kolay aniga taas waxaan u arkaa inay tahay qof iyo kaskiisa oo la yaab malahan oo qof kasta waa ka sheegi karaa shaashadda gadaasheeda waxuu rabo. Waxaanse idin dhihi lahaa magacan ma ahan magac ay reer Ogaadeenya iyagu doorteen ee waa magac uu Allaah ku siiyay fadligiisa iyo deeqdiisa oo way ku mahadinayaan mana diidayaan iskamana badalayaan ninkiise leh idin kaalmeyn mayno jeeraad iska badashaan magacaas, waxay leeyihiin REER OGAADEENYA waxaan sugaynaa FADLIGA ILAAHAY iyo in reer ogaadeenya uu heerkooda uu ka sareeyo heerkay hogaamin jireen aduunka ee ay cashiro lama ilaawaan ah ay siin jireen wadamo wagaas lagu tilmaami jiray inay hogaamiyaan aduunka.

Mar kale waxaan leeyahay walaalayaal aan iska dayno qabaliyadda xididada naga gashay oo yaynaan isku dayin inaan dadka kula xagxagano FADLIGA ILAAHAY oo yaynaan ka tagin islaamnimadda.

Shaqsiyan raali baan ka ahay in magacii la isku raaco loogu yeero Ogaadeenya inkastoon la yaabanahay waxa loga badalayo ka Ilaahay uu u gartay. Mudnaanta koobaadse waxaan siinayaa in dhulka ogaadeenya uu ahaado dhul uu ku noolaan karo qofkasta oo Ilaah yaqaano oo MUSLIM ah soomaali iska daayee (SOOMAALI OO DHAN WAA II MUSLIMIIN ANIGA). Mudnaan kalena waxay tahay in lagu xukumo KITAABKA ILAAHAY.

Wabillaahi towfiiq

Walaaashiin Fahma

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Calanle

Monday, December 18, 2000 - 04:48 am
Waxaa in laga doodo mudan inta laga hadlin baddalidda magaca iyo xornimo doonnibaba intee loo yaqaannaa Ogaden.

Ma dhulka hadda loo yaqaanno SOmali State baa mise waa ka weynaa ama ka yaraa?

Dhul aan hore loo oran jirin baa jiree sidee laga yeeli.

Gaba-gabo wixii Ogaadeen ah ha iska wateen Ogaadeenya inta kalese waxaa loo yaqaan Somali State. Waxaanan qabaa waa guul haddii Ethiopia aqbashay in gobolkan yahay dhul SOomaaliyeed.

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CAYNI

Monday, December 18, 2000 - 09:38 am
waxaa muhiim ah marka aan leenahay OGADENIA iney aad uga duwan tahay OGAADEEN waayo ta horena waa waddan magacii ta danbena waa qabiil magicii marka bal haddii alle yidhaa saas aan ula kala socono intaynaan odhan OGADEN cidna waxba uma ogola.

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MissShilabo

Monday, December 18, 2000 - 01:16 pm
salaamu calaykum

ILMO ADEERAYAALOO

naga daaya magaca Ogaden ee meel walbo lagu hayo. waa su'aal miyaan laga dhamaanee magacan??

Aniga waxaan u dhashay Ogaden runtiin ma garanyo waxa lagu diidanyahay magacan mana doonayo runtii in aan ogado BALSE dadku iyaga oo isku arigti aheen ayeey hadana danta guud ka wada tashadaan.

Hadii magicii laysku af-garanwayay maxay cidwalbo intey magac la baxdo DHAQDHAQAAQ u sameen la'dahay???

Nabad----------Galyo

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Deeq Daqare

Monday, December 18, 2000 - 03:08 pm
Ninbaa hadloo wuxuu yidhi " waa yaab mana yara" anigu waxaan aad ula yaabanahay dadka magaca ogadeeniya isku mashquulinaya isagoon diyaarba u ahayn inuu xoroobo. War bal ogoow dadbaa wiilashoodii ku dhintaan maalin walba xornimada qof kastoo soomaaliya oo u dhashay Ogaadeeniya, magac buu sitaa oo qofkaasi ku dagaalamayaa, ee adigu hadaadan garab istaagayn, samayso Jabhad xaq u dirir ah, dadna hakaa dhintaan, markaa idinkoo laba qofoo wada dhimanaya ah ka wadda hadla magacaad jeceshihiin. Ogoow magac ciyaar ciyaar laguma badalee mabda' iyo nidaam baa lagu badalaa. Shalay markii magaca Soomaali galbeed laqaatay rag baa saluugay oo labaxay Sii galbeed iyo wax lamida. Marka nimaad sii jeedkiisa taqaano soo jeedkiisa ma garan waysid!!!!!

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abdirazak

Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 03:12 am
waxaan jeclaan lahaa in aan ogaado muslimiita ku nool Itabia inta ey cadadoodu tahay,wax xirii ahse ma ka dhexeeyaa.dadka oromaha ah ma intooda muslinka ah ayaa badan mise inta kale.maxeyse tahay jagada ugu sareysa ee qof somali ahi ka hayo Itobia,iyo ugu sareysa ee qof muslin ahi ka hayo Itobia.

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DEEQ DAQARELONDON

Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 12:10 pm
Walaaal C/saaq dadka muslimiinta ah ee ku nool dalka Itoobiya waxaa lagu qiyaasi jiray markii Ereteriya katirsanayd ilaa 65-70% haddase waxaaa lagu qiyaasaa ilaa 50%. Wax xidhiidh ah kama dhexeeyo muslimiinta wadankaa, oo qoomiyad kasta goonideedaa loo cadaabaa isumana miciinaan.Dadka Oromada ah muslimiinteedaa badan. Jagada ugu weyn ee shakhsi soomaali ahi qabto waxaa qabtay C/majiid waxayna ahayd xidhiidhka arimaha dibada(ijtimaaciga). Jagada ugu wayn ee nin muslin ahi qabto aqoon uma lihi.

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shaygoosh

Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 01:46 pm
rutii waxaan door bidayaa in ruux kasta uusan xaq ulahayn inuu ka hadlo halganka hubaysan ee umada reer ogaadeenya aykula jiraan jabhada wayaaneega
iyo mabaadiida uu kusalaysanyahay runtii waxaa yaableh inuu maalin kasta isku mashquuliyo ruux aan fahmi karin jinsiyada.islaanimada.soomaalinimada & OGAADEENYA waxa ay ukala taagan yihiin fadlan akhristoow kolka hore soobaro kadibna kadood waahady kudamqayso waad mahadsantihiin

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shaygoosh

Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 01:49 pm
rutii waxaan door bidayaa in ruux kasta uusan xaq ulahayn inuu ka hadlo halganka hubaysan ee umada reer ogaadeenya aykula jiraan jabhada wayaaneega
iyo mabaadiida uu kusalaysanyahay runtii waxaa yaableh inuu maalin kasta isku mashquuliyo ruux aan fahmi karin jinsiyada.islaanimada.soomaalinimada & OGAADEENYA waxa ay ukala taagan yihiin fadlan akhristoow kolka hore soobaro kadibna kadood waahady kudamqayso waad mahadsantihiin

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Anonymous

Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 02:06 pm
WAXAY ILA TAHAY IN LAANGAABNIMADU AY TAHAY QORSHE UU ILAAHAY U GARTAY QAAR KA MID AH ADOOMADIISA RUUXII KU QANCI WAAYANA WAXAA SHAKI GALAYAA ISLAANIMADIISA HADABA BAL REER OW!!!!! ANAGU IDINMA NABCIN KUMA FARAXSANIN IN AAD TIHIIN LAANGAAB EE NACAYBKA AAD U QABTAAN OGADENIA KA FIIRSADA IN AY TAHAY MID SAX AH !!!!!
WAANU XORAYN LA AANTII OGAADEENYA INSHA ALLAAH

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komaande

Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 06:56 pm
Waxaa nasiib daro ah in dad leh dhulkaan xoraynaynaa ay hadana lid ku noqdaan midnimada umadeena la gumaysto. Anigu, anigoo reer hawd ah waxaan jeclaan lahaa in umadda soomaali galbeed midawdo oo hal magac iyo hal urur ku heshiiso.
ogaadeen haday diidaan midnimada, magacooda ha qaateen intay degen yihiina ha u dagaalameen.
Anagu dhulkeena hawd & reserve area, somali galbeed baan ka tirsanhay waana u halgamaynaa, anagoo kaashanayna walaalaha kale ee reer somali galbed.

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calidheere

Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 07:02 pm
sida keliya ee dhulka loo xorayn karo waa in dadka lakala soocaa, qabiilna la adeegsado.

Wallee caqli ogaadeen waa yahay!!

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ciidagale

Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 08:44 pm
war wax ma idin sheegaa seynu doono aynu ugu yeedhnee dhulka yaa inooga soo celiya amxaarada. koley anagu somali ahaan weynu ku heshiineyaa magacna wax la isku qabsado maaha. aniguse wax aan ka qabo in ogaden loogu yeero ma jirto. what is the big deal?........dhulka aynu xoreysano horta.........koley raga meesha wada daga wey is yaqaanaan oo waa wada dhasheen ayagana heshiin doonana ee idinku ka taliya sidee loo xoreen karaa....

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daadiroow

Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 09:15 pm
OGADENIA GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL.
KANAXOW NAFTA WAA, AAMIIIIIIIIIIN.

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JAALLE

Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 08:42 am
NINKA RABA IN UU OGAADENYA KA DOODOW FADLAN KOLKA HORE HALGANKA KA QAYB QAADO OO U DHIMO DHULKA , HADDII TAA LAGAA HELO XAQ BAAD U LEEDAHAY INAAD MAGACA KA DOODO , LAAKIIN HADDII AADBA KA MAQAN TAHAY GOOBAHA GEERIDA IYO MEESHA RAGGA TUKUHU KU CUNAYO DEE NINYAHAOW HADALKAAGU MEEL MALEH

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GALBEED

Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 05:18 pm
HADII ONLF IYO AY MAGACAN KU DHAGANYIHIIN OOY KU DAGAALGELAYAAN WAX KALE OON KU EEDEYNANA MEESHA OOLIN MAAN SOOMAALIDEENA KALE INTAAN SOOMALI/GALBEED LABAXNO AAN HALGANKEENA DHINACIISA KA QAADANO.


HADAAN DIIDNO WAXBA YEYNAAN KU DAALIN DAD MAGACA AY LABAXAAN EE AAN ARAGNO IYAKA IYO ITOOBIYA MEESHA AY KU KALA DAMBEEYAAN.


NABAADIINO!

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neecaaw

Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 09:29 pm
ONLF halgan ma waddo ee waxay carqaldeeyaan halgan kasta oo suuro gal ka dhigi lahaa in xuquuqda dadkaas la baadi doono.

Waxay si weyn u taageeraan cadawga ay leeyihiin waan la dagaallaa.

Sidaa darteed, iyaga iyo gaaladaba waa in isku si loola degaallo.

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danod

Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 10:53 am
anigu waxan kuraacsanahay figrada miss shilaabo waana xiqiiq jirta
reeraha kale eemeesha naladaga waxaan dhihi lahaa haday dhabtahay waxaad ku hadlaysaan halaidinka arko oo xataa waxaan ogolahy in aan lahadalo nin ka intuu ciidan sameeya wacdarana kamuujiya sida onlf ta yiraahda magacan maogaliye aan kawada hadalo laakiin nin gaalada ogaadeenka usoo daba istaaga internet kana wax ku qora ma mudna in wax laga wariyo muwaadinimadiisana waa la inkiri siday dad halkan kuqoray yidhaahdeenxataa haduu

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danod

Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 10:56 am
anigu waxan kuraacsanahay figrada miss shilaabo waana xiqiiq jirta
reeraha kale eemeesha naladaga waxaan dhihi lahaa haday dhabtahay waxaad ku hadlaysaan halaidinka arko oo xataa waxaan ogolahy in aan lahadalo nin ka intuu ciidan sameeya wacdarana kamuujiya sida onlf ta yiraahda magacan maogaliye aan kawada hadalo laakiin nin gaalada ogaadeenka usoo daba istaaga internet kana wax ku qora ma mudna in wax laga wariyo muwaadinimadiisana waa la inkiri siday dad halkan kuqoray yidhaahdeenxataa haduuogaden yahay

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DEEQ

Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 10:57 am
Neecaaw, nin wax og matihid ee xaqiiqda baadi goob in taadan dadka xaqooda u diriraya afka ku taagin , waxaad tahay nin ku hadlaya afka gumaysiga, adoo kale intuu nagu dhexjirana umalaynmaayo inaan xornimo gaarayno.

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oomaar

Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 11:16 am
NEECOW
Waxaad ogaataa in aanu xorayn OGAADEENYA insha allaah waxa ku xiga waa adigoo kale oon ka saaraa ogaadeenya maxaayeelay OGAADEENYA waxaa u dhinta ogaadeen waxaa u dhaawacma ogaadeen waxaa u gaajooda ogaadeen waxaana leh OGAADEEN waxaa kuu haboon intaadan u dhiman cuqdad isdaba qabo oo tolkaa dhinacka raac

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oomaar

Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 11:21 am
wixii neceb ogaadeen waxaanu leenahay MUUTUU BI QAYDIKUM (la dhimo cadhadaada) dadka jecel xornima ogaadeenya waxaan u soo jeedinayaa in aan lala wadin loogana jaawaabin cuqdadlayaasha oon ba laga neefinin ileeyn waxay tagaysaa xaqiiqada e
waa in aynu ka wada hadalaa wixii danteena ah waxaa ina sugaya cadow ka muhiimsan kuwa xanuunsan

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Anonymous

Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 11:40 am
Waxaan qaban lahaa aan hoos kuugu qoro.
1)Waxaan Gobalkas ka dhisi lahayn dhakhaatiir,degmo kasta iyo goob kasta.
2)Waxaan ka dhisi lahayn dugsiyo illa heer Jaamacadeed.
3)Waxaan ka dhisi lahayn jidad isku xidha gobalka oodhan.Wabiga Shabeele waxan ka samayna lahayn boondooyo iyo jadad isku xidha dadka iyo dhulkaas kala xidhan.
4)Abaaraha joogtada ah ayaan la dagali lahaa.Waxaan meel kasta ka qodi lahayn ceelal.
5) Wabiyada iska ququlaya ayaan beero ka abuuri lahayn.
6)Waxaan dajin lahaa reer guuraaga .Waxaan bari lahayn sida beeraha loo tacbado.
7)Waxaan lasoo bixi lahaa kaayraadka dalka iyo macaadinta ka buuxda.
8)Waxaan dadkayga bari lahaa xuquuqda ay leeyihiin ee aadaminimo.
8)Waxaan bari lahaa taariikhda Somalida si ay u noqdaan dad qabiilka aan ku dhaganayn,sida ONLF.
9)Waxaan tusi lahaa in dhulka dadkaygu ka waeyn yahay kan qabiilka.Waxaan bari lahaa in tolwyne Somali layidhaa uu ku faano ee uunan ku faanin qabiilka yar.
10)Ganacsi xor ah ayaan dhulkaas ku baahin lahaa
11)warshadaha yaryar ayaan dhulkaasi ku baahin lahaa.
12)Gaajo iyo jahli iyo cudur dagaal ayaan ku qaadi lahaa.
10000000)Intaasi iyo in ka badan yaan samayn lahaa.
Waxaase qasay intaasba nin dhuldheer fadhiya oo ciyaalkii yaryaraa ku sarkhaamiyay qiiro qabiil oodagaal iyo qas ka wada dhulkii.
Waxaas waxaa u sabab ah ONLF iyo kuwa taageera.
Intay dhulkii qaseen ayay hadana leeyihiin ONLF iyo Itixaaad mooyee dad kale oo dagaalayaa ma jiraan
Dagaal waqti ayuu haboon yahay.Taas xataa kuwo aan garanayn ayaa waan dagaalaynaa afka ka leh.
Dagaal aan loo dhanayn guul kuma gaadhaysaan.In dadku u dhammaaadana ma rabtaan.
Waxaad thiin ma taqaanaan.

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neecaaw

Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 09:25 pm
Horey ayaan u sheegay sababta ay noogu adag tahay in dalkaas wax laga qabto waa kuwiinan la baxay Deeq, Danod iyo OOaar.

Keenna aan wax ogayn waa la arki. Waxaanse hubaa in aad aad u caawisaan gumaysiga. Waana jaahilnimo ee idinkama aha gumaysi jacayl.

Marka xaqiiqo waxaad u baahantihiin in horta idinka wax la idiin qabto intaydaan kuwa kale danahooda ka hadlin.

Maxaad ugu meeraysanaysaan Ogaadeen, Ogaadeen. Ogaadeen waa dad Soomaaliyeed mana jiro cid aad sidaas colaad ugu abuuri karraan. Waxaadse muujisateen caqli gaabnimadiina.

Haddii aad adigu ku fikirayso sidii aad anoo kale dalka uga saari lahayd anigu waxaan ku fikiri sidii wax laguu bari lahaa maxaa yeelay kaamaba maarmo oo walaalkay ayaad tahay.

Waxaanse ku leeyahay allaha ku bogsiiyo.

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DEEQ

Friday, December 22, 2000 - 05:05 am
Neecoow dhaaf calaacalka adaa keenay in si adag laguugu jawaabo, haddana walaaltinimo iyo waxaad ku meeraysanaysaa wax aadan hadalkaagii hore ku bilaabin, waa saan sheegay waxaad u baahantahay inaad xaqiiqda baartid, ileen haddii laguu sheego ma ogolide. War is xoree markaan ku idhina waad diiday, in munaafaqnimo culus kugu njirtaan u malaynayaa, ood waliba raali isaga tahay, nin munaafaqnimo raali ku noqdayna illahayna wax kama dhhadhicin karo sida quraanka ku cadba. marka adoo ka;e waa in lagu ilaawo ....

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caaleeydhi

Friday, December 22, 2000 - 08:29 am
assalmu caleykumwarxamtulaahii waabarkatahu
wallal soomaleyee iga jwaaba su'ualhaan
1. magaca ogaaden waxan ahaayin maa lagu
xoorrenkarin gobalka?
2.inaata uu dhimaneesa maalin kasat maa ogaaden oo qudha?
3.ciida ku noola gobalka maa ogaaden oo qudha?
4. magaca gumeesatahi inaagu guumesanyay maa waxa laa jecleysato miya?
warka su'aalha ka jawabtaan ayaan is fahamidoona

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caaleeydhi

Friday, December 22, 2000 - 08:31 am
assalmu caleykumwarxamtulaahii waabarkatahu
wallal soomaleyee iga jwaaba su'ualhaan
1. magaca ogaaden waxan ahaayin maa lagu
xoorrenkarin gobalka?
2.inaata uu dhimaneesa maalin kasat maa ogaaden oo qudha?
3.ciida ku noola gobalka maa ogaaden oo qudha?
4. magaca gumeesatahi inaagu guumesanyay maa waxa laa jecleysato miya?
warka su'aalha ka jawabtaan ayaan is fahamidoona

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abdirazak

Friday, December 22, 2000 - 08:48 am
Deeqdaqarelondon waad mahadsantahay.waxaan jeclaan lahaa in aan is weydiino maxaa maslaxad ah,halkeyse maslaxadu ku jirtaa.sidaan wada ognahay waxaa jira maslaxado badan,qaar ayaa maslaxad tuulo ah,qaar kalena maslaxad magaalo ama qabiil ama qaran,amaba mid diineed.maslaxadaha sidaan wada ognahay wey kala sareeyaan kalana sharaf badan yihiin(shaki kuma jiro tan diinka ah in ey ugu sharaf badan tahay uguna sareyso). dadka ilaa iyo waqtigan la joogo u talinayey Itobia,maslaxadoodu waxaa ey aheyd markasta mid aad usareysa;markastana tuulo iyo qabiil wey ka weyneyd.haldhigeedu waxaa uu ahaa markasta"jasiirad kiristian ah,ey bad muslin ah ku xeerantahay",waa tan ey gobolka ku hantiday.Isweydiiyoo qadiyadaadu heerkaa ma gaarsiisantahay,intaadan kan dhibaatada kugula jira aadan xagxagan.ARIMAHA AAD TIRINEYSAAN(EE QABIILKA AH)QABUURAHA MOOYIYE QARAMOMIDOOBAY LAGUMA GAARO.waxaa idiin haboon in aad kor iskuyara qaadaan,dhulka ayaad tihiine.

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D E E Q

Friday, December 22, 2000 - 02:01 pm
Cabdirisaaq adaa mudan, nin walaaalkay ah ayaad tahay, waliba akhiyaarnimaan kugu tuhmayaa, anigu nin qabiil ma ihi, laakiinse waxaa meesha ku jira, ninkii hantaatac netka galiya waa loo jawaabayaa haddii kale wuxuu moodayaa waligii inuu saxsanyahay. Anigu waxaan ahay nin Soomaali ah oo aaaminsan inuu xoroobo, waxaanan ku gaadhi kadhnaa inaan dhamaanteen gacmaha isqabsano iskana hufno qabiilka. Adiguse gacanta maqabsankartaa ninka aaminsan nin dhimanaya(ONLF&ITIXAAD) inuu gaalada u adeegayo, aniga arintaydu Tuulo iyo Qabiil way ka wayntahay, waxaan u diriraya una dhimanayaa shakhsi kastoo udhashay ama xaq ku leh wadanka Ogaadeeniya. Nin xaqiisa ka duudsin karaana majiro. Adoon cuqdad qabin marka cuqdad lagugu beero adiga laftaadii inaad xanuunsataad bilaabaysaa.Dabcan Muslinbaan ahay waxaan tiigsanayaana waa inaan Dalkayga iyo Dadkayga ku xukumo sharciga Diinta Islaamka ninkastoo Soomaaliyedna uu xaqiisa ka helowadanka Ogaadeenya.......

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farxaan

Friday, December 22, 2000 - 06:41 pm
waxaan dhowaan tegey howd dhinaca xuduuda soomaaliyale. sidaanku ogaa toban sano aadayay xaaladu ugaxuntahay. dhinaca itoobiya xiga iyada hadalkeeda daa. manifilayo ineykasoo raynayso, xabashidii ereteriya waa laheshiiyeen ciidankoodana xageney usoorarayaan. ninkii ogaadeen kudoodilahaa iyo kiicidkale kudoodilahaayowba wax qabad ayuu wadankaagu kaaga baabanyahay;

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baaz

Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 01:02 pm
asalaamu calaykum walaal waan idin salaamayaa dhamaan kuwiina maskaxda caafimaadka qabta layimid bulshada dhexdeeda kuwa kale ee aanan magac yadooda aana sookoobikarin ee NEECAW ninka isugu yeedhay uu kamidyahay inaga daaya iyaga sababta oo ah waatii ilaahay yidhi SW wa idaa khadaba humuljaahilu qaaluu salaama.warmarka ay jaahiliintu idinla hadlaan nabad galyo dhahoo iskaga taga macna ahaan in loo jawaabaa la diidanyahay sida neecaw ookale nabiguna waatuuyidhi SCW aljahlu laayastaxyii sheyan. oomacnaheedu yahay qofka jaahilka ahi waxba kama xishoodo sida NEECAW ookale hadaba dadka magacan ka qalyahayoow in netka wax lagu soo qoro MIHIIM maha madasha ragu isku hayo halagaahelo oomarkaa aynu kawada hadalo maxaynu yeelaa hadii kale saanu horayu ogaynba waxjira matihid netka nijasta kala dulkac.ONLF mabda eedu halgan midaysan weeye kamid ahaanshaheedu maalkiyo naftaw hur weeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeee

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Jeexdin

Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 07:38 pm
waryaadha nimanyahow arin kasta oo hadaf lagadoonayo waxaa wanaagsan in laga wada hadlo dabeetana goaano layaqaano meel laisla dhigo.taas waxaan oga jeedaa ragiinan aan magacyadooda soo koobi karin iminka, ee kasoo harjeeda nadaalka(struggle)ONLF waa inay marka hore taariikh lataabankaro ama (credit history)kuyeeshaan in OGADENIA oo ay sida mujaahidiinta ONLF naftooda iyo maalkoodaba ugu hureen xoraynta ogaadeenya ayaguna ugu huraan wax kastooy awoodaan markaa dabeetana meel dhexdhexaad ah laisugu yimaado oo nin kasta miiska wadahadalka soo saaro intuu cadowga kadilay iyo intii isaga laga dilay lagana
wadahadlo wax alla wixii xal dhab ah unoqon kara gobolka iyo dadkaba bal markaas ONLF waxay samayso oo diidmo ah haku canbaareeyeen ogaadana nimanyahow ogaadeenku lama dagaalamayaan qabiil soomaaliyeed ee waxay ladagaalamayaan gaalo orthodox ah(Christian Orthodox) marka ogaadeenku ilaa waaguu ilaahay ifka keenay ayay Gaal iyo Gaalo raacoo dhan ladagaalami jireene iska dhaafa oo saas ku taageera hadii kale intay christinka usugaan ayay xabada idinku soo leexin doonaan markaasn la idiin yaabi doonaa ee aan wax wada qabsano.

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Jeexdin

Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 07:47 pm
waxaan aad u taageersanahay fikrada Ms. Shilaabo
Ms. Shilaabo afkaaga caana lagu qabay afjanaad ixusuusisay waana loobaahan yahay hablihiinan indheer garadka ah.

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oomaar

Monday, December 25, 2000 - 09:09 am
neecaw waxaan u malayn inuu ku yaqaano deeq sida uu u gartay in aad munaaqfaq tahay ayaan aad ula yaabay laakiin taas waxaad ku darsatay kal nugayl oo markii aan si adag kuula hadlay ayaad bilowday calaacal iyo walaalnimo raadis aan hore kaaga quusanay marka inta aad aamusantahay goluhu wuxuu u wada hadlaa si sharaf leh ee fadlan wax wanaagsan ku hadal ama aamus taas dambe ayaad ku roontrahay

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abdirazak

Wednesday, December 27, 2000 - 07:27 am
WALAALAYAAL WAXAAN IDIIN SOO DIRAYAA DHAMAANTIINSALAAN KU SAABSAN CIIDA BARAKEYSAN,EE CIID WANAAGSAN CIIDA.

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AFJANO-2

Wednesday, December 27, 2000 - 04:37 pm
TALISYAHOW WAREERSANI WARLI IDAA
WALEE WARLI IDAA
MALESOOW WARLI IDAA
WEY```WEEY~~~~~WEEEEEEEY!~
KUWAA WAARIDKOOD IYO WALAALKOODBA WAAYOO
WAY RAXAAYO MA OGTAHAY?

OGAADEENYAAY WIXI DHIIGLAHOOW KAC, WAAY DHACAYSAA!!!

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Anonymous

Sunday, December 31, 2000 - 04:47 pm
walaalayaal Assalaamu Calaykum dhamaantiin, tan xigta fadlan marka hore qof walba intuu caadifada iska daayo fadlan ha tix galiyo ra'yiga qofka kale ee walaalkii ah, isagoon xumaan u arkin.
Qof walbana xaq ayuu u lee yahay inuu fikirkiisa dhiibto.

Tan xigta aan u nasteexeeyo walaalkay baaz maxaad ninka walaalkaa ah u dureysaa adigoo adeegsanaaya diin, sow taasi xaaraan ma aha, waxaad ku tilmaantay jaahil, qof muslin ah inuu qof kale oo muslin ah uu wax u dhimo sharaftiisa, maalkiisa iwm sow xaaraan ma ahayn, siduu xadiiska Nabigu (csw) sheegayo.

Walaalkay C/risaaq fikradiisa ayaanan taageersanahay ee lahayd aan baraarugno, meesha waxa ka socda waa diin la dagaal, weligeedna Amxaaradu waxay ku andacoonaysay inay tahay jasiirad Kiristaan ah oo ay ku wareegsan tahay Badwayn Muslim ahi, markaa maxaa noo diiday inaynu ku midowno magacaa Muslimnimada oo aan waliba kaashano dhammaan Muslimiinta Walaaladeen ah ee dhibka nala qaba, haba ugu horeeyeen Walaaladeen Oromada'e?

Walaalayaal sheekadu sidaan moodno way ka way ka wayn tahaye aynu hurdada ka kacno, Ogowna in tan kaliya ee raalinimada Ilaahay lagu helayaa inay tahay in Jidkiisa lagu dagaalamo, Waa qofkii u dhinta inay kalimada Alle noqoto kor, kaa uunbaa shahiid ah oo jihaaday.

Tan aan ka taxadarno magacyada aan ku faanayno ee uu gumaysigu innagu kala qaybiyay, sida Ogaadeeniya, Somaliland iwm.

Wabillaahi Towfiiq

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SUAD

Monday, January 01, 2001 - 09:15 am
DADKA LEH OGAADEENYA MAGACA HALAGA BEDELO WAA DAD AAN LA SOCON WAXA WADDANKA OGAADEENYA LA SOCON XAALADIISA SIDAAN HOREY USOO IDHI. MAGACA OGAADEENYA WAA DALKA MAGACIISA DADKUSE WAA SOOMAALI. MAGACA SOOMAALI GALBEED WAA TII LAGU XOREYNWAAYAY OGAADEENYA (1977) THEREFORE HADDA WAX AY QABANEYSO MA JIRTO. SOOMAALIYA WEY QIRAN WEYDAY OGAADEENYA AS PART OF SOMALIA. MARKII TIKREEKU QABSADAY WADDANKA ETHIOPIA WAA UU U DIIDAY WAX XAQUUQ AH UMMADA SOOMAALIYEED EE KU NOOL OGAADEENYA. ONLF WAXAY BILOWDEY INEY U HALGAMAAN OGAADEENYA ILLAA XILIGII 1993 DAGAAL YAANA SOCDA, WAXA KALIYA EE OGAADEEN U DHINTA WAA OGAADEEN. HADDABA QOF AMA DAD AAN WAX KU DARSANEYN OGAADEENYA HADDEY NOQON LAHEYD DHAQAALA AHAAN, U DAGAALIMID, AMA FIKRAD WAX KU OOL OO KU DABAALI KARTA OGAADEENYA XORNIMO.
WAXAANA HOREY LOO YIDHI DHUL NINKIISII BAA LEH, WAXAANA NALA WADAAGI KARA NINKII HALGANKA NALAGA QEYB QAATA. WAA KAASI ISAAQ CID KALE TALO HA WEYDIIYO ARIMAHA WAQOOYI GALBEED HADDABA MAXAA OGAADEENYA DADKA TUSAY MISE MAGACA AYAA IDIN DHIBAYA EE DANO KALE MA LIHIDIIN

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Anonymous

Monday, January 01, 2001 - 11:17 am
Magaca Ogaadeeniya waa magac uu bixyey gumaystihii Ingriisku oo ujeedadiisu ah in uu dhulka somali-Galbeed kala tagaalamo astaanta qaranimo ee Somalinimo. Magaca Ogaadeeniya waxba kama gadisna magacii uu Talyaanigu u bixiyey bariga Somaliya oo aheyd Majeerteeniya. Soomaaliya markay burburtay ee maamul Gobaleed laga sameeyey bariga Somaliya indheergaradka Majeerteenku gobolka uma bixin magacii gumaysiga Talyaaniga ee ahaa Majeerteeniya waxay ula baxeen Puntland oo ah magac ay majeerteenka la wadaagi karaan qabiilooyinka aan aheyn majjeerteenka. waxa indheergaradka Majeerteenku garteen ayey ka indhala`yihiin indheergaradka Ogaadeenku. Waxaa rajaynayy in ogaadeenku yeesho bisaylka siyasadeed wee majeerteenka oo kale.

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Anonymous

Monday, January 01, 2001 - 08:48 pm
waxa muhiim ah in laga doodo ummadda Somaaliyeed
ee wali ku hoos jirta gumaystaha madaw sidii ay
xornimo buuxda u gaadhi lahaayeen, waxaan aad iyo
aad ula yaaba waxgaradka iyo indheer garatada u
dhashay qabiilka "Ogaadeenka" dhammaantood waxay
caashaqsanyihiin magaca "Ogadenia" war magaca lama
xoraynayo e dad iyo dhul baa loo halgamayaaye is
laweynida inta aad sika dhaaftaan isku keena umadda S/galbeed oo midnimaddeena ku halgama taas
ayaynu xornimo iyo guul ku gaadhayna e. waad yeeli
weydeen waligeenba isticmaarka ayaynu ku hoos jiri doona.

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odowa

Thursday, January 04, 2001 - 01:20 pm
Inasta oo aan ka soo horjeedo magac ogaadeniya haddana waxba kama qabeen in aan ku halgamo haddi ay jirto sabab muhiim ah oo soomali galbeed(oo ah magac kulmiya dadka oo dhan)aan uga doorbidno magac aan kulmin dadkii midka ahaa.Marka waxaan talo ahaan ugu soo jeedin lahaa taagerayasha onlf in ay ogadaan inta u uga muhiimsan yahay magac ogaaden kan soomali galbeed waxaad u soo kordhisan ogaaden uu yahay dhexdiisa oo kala qaybsama maalin kasta dhilo iyo dhimasho ku kooban ogaaden iyo dheg xumo.midna ogaadeenow ha ku riyoon dhul lagaga badan yahay in aad wax guul gaar ah in aad ka gaadho.

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Halyey

Thursday, January 04, 2001 - 01:48 pm
Koshin

Thanks for your information, although I was unable to find anything useful in Le Monde's articles.

It is my view that the oppression against the Somalis in that region, real as it is, does not justify an armed struggle at this stage. An armed uprising can only be justified if all other avenues have been exhausted. Nothing in the pages you shown me suggests this is the case in Ogadenia ( I am still suspicious of the name, but I will use it as you seem to prefer it)

The reasons for my conclusion are as follows:

1. The oppression is not systematic enough, from
at least from my limited understanding of the
situation.
2. More avenues are open to the population of
the region as never before to express
dissent and demand their rights.
These have not been fully explored yet.
3. Ogadenia will not be able to conduct an armed
struggle without the backing and support of a
strong and united Somalia(the Republic) and
sadly that is not the case at the moment.
4. The world community is sick and tired of
Africa's "bush wars" and is unlikely to
sympathize with yet another ethnic group
seeking independence through war and conflict
5. The traditional animosity of Somalis towards
Ethiopia has been severely diluted by the
kindness Ethiopians have shown to Somali
refugees in their hour of need. This contrasts
with the way Kenya and its people treated us
over the last 10 years or so.
6. By sheer narrow-mindedness, ONLF chose to alie
-nate other Somalis in the region by the
deliberate use of a clannish title. This
further weakens your case.

Having said all of that, I will support the struggle of any Somali group against an outside force, whether I feel the Somalis have a justified cause or not.

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Koshin

Thursday, January 04, 2001 - 01:50 pm
TO: Halyey


Thank you for your responses, although it is hard to believe that a man who honestly said he didn't know much about what is going on and wanted me to refer him an informational site can come up a conclusion as summarized with out any further research.

If my source where in adequate did you site another sources? It is hard for me to think that you didn't see anything that justifies for arm struggle in this time, but never the less I appreciated for your good will and professionalism. I will try once again to personally answer your personal conclusions.

1. First, you have stated that " the oppression is not systematic enough for at least from your limited understanding of the situation". In here you are contradicting your self-my friend, if your understanding is limited to the situation couldn't you investigate more instead of chosen to conclude with out facts? How did you come to that conclusion? Why do you think the situation does not amount to systematic? What does systematic amount to in your definition? If that means killing us all, then my friend we have a different definition of this word. Do you want us to wait until TPLF wipes us all out? For us even harm against one individual is enough to decree systematic.

2. Second, you have stated that " more avenues are open to the population of the region as never before to express dissent and demand their rights" this is true by word of mouth but in reality all of these avenues have being closed by the TPLF. For example, in 1994 the ONLF met in Addis to declare their independence based on current Ethiopian constitution drafted by the TPLF which grantees up to secession. The ONLF called on the TPLF to accept the rights for our people to vote for a union with Ethiopia or independence. Unfortunately, the TPLF had systematically arrested with out a trail including the head of region "Hassan Jirde" my god blesses him in his grave. My friend from on that day the ONLF had tried to reach the Ethiopian government through out dialog, but they are unwilling to listen to us.

3. Third, you have stated "Ogadenia will not be able to conduct an armed struggle without the backing and support of a strong Somali Republic" again you are absolutely right on this one. I am a firm believer that Somali down fall had given the Ethiopians confidence to do what they want to Ogadania and even worst Somali Republic. We have seen time in and time out how they are manipulation into Somali through arrogant self-serving warlords who put forward their own interest before the interest of their nation. We have seen how Somali people are praying everyday for a change of luck. They want to bring back their dignity and respect, and once again take part in realizing the greater Somali opportunity. The irony is even thought, we are down and not out, the struggle against Ethiopia is even more real it has ever been. If we don't stand up to Ethiopia to day, we will serve them directly or indirectly along time to come. We need to look beyond our own interested and look to the interest of greater Somalia and only that could safeguard us from any enemy wishes to divide and destroy us.


4. Forth you have stated that "The world community is sick and tired of 'Africa's bush wars' and is unlikely to sympathize with yet another ethnic group seeking independence through war and conflict." Here you go again, your assumption is that international community does not want anything to do with African wars. It is well know fact that they are the ones who created these nonsense ethnic divisions with out given an adequate though process to their desire and wishes. I am struck with your sarcasm on the grounds that you think only in Africa wars are wages, are you not aware of Kosovo, Bosnia, Croatia, Kurds, Katzekhan, Cheyenne, Kashmir, Srilank, magnolia, and even, Taiwan, and Quebec would like them to break away in their respective countries. Did you know that state of Vermont (U.S.A) considered the same 35yrs ago? The point that I am try to make is the word is becoming more global and fast technological advances have escalated the need for open market, and globalization of capital and goods. We are more inter-depended today than ever, and what is happening in Africa, will have a significant Bering on the rest of the world in many aspect. Including the economy and immigration and it is thus the best interests of the international community to address these realities whether it wants or not.

5. Fifth you have stated that " By sheer narrow-mindedness, ONLF chose to alienate other Somalis in the region by the deliberate use of a clannish title. This further weakness your case" Again, your analysis is pit contradiction to it self, but let first make one thing clear for your sake are you referring to the name Ogadenia? My guest is am correct, since we are not alienating anybody to fight TPLF.

In one point you are assuming we are leaving behind our Somalis brothers and sisters and in the other had you're distinctively referring this my case and mine alone? If this is my case how can I leave behind others? Does it ever acquire to you our destiny and their destiny coincides at hand and hand and those who are dying at the hands of colonial soldiers are not only Ogaden clan.

Let me explain to you what is going on, there are some individuals who can not stand the name Ogadenia because they think it stands for the Ogaden clan alone. I strongly disagree with their views for these reasons. First of all, Ogadenia is well-recognized name known for this land for more than a century. We opted to keep it for now because it serves our interest because it is in line with International territorial divisions adopted by the United Nations and if we renamed to Western Somali right now it would conflict with international law since no Western Somali exist and it is recognized. Second, there are a lot of human rights abuses taking place in this region and we need the international community to be aware of with out getting confused of Somalia. We would like to make it clear to them that these abuses are taking place in Ogadenia region of Ethiopia rather than Western Somali that does not exist.

Finally, My friend we would like to realize that greater Somali someday, and our aim are to see that happen and everyday we are working toward that common vision. In that respect we have no interest of aliening on the same people whom we are trying to defend them with our lives ever day. We are willing to sit down with any one of these people and talk to them hart to hart, and I am sure they will understand. I would also hope they too can come and join us in this struggle with or with out agreeing with us what sort of a name to carry on.

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CALIWANAAG

Thursday, January 04, 2001 - 02:49 pm
WARILAYN ANAGAA WAX ARAGNAY GOORMUU MAJEERTEENIA ULABAXAY TTALYAANIGA MASE HAWA AYAA KAA HAYSO INAAD ISKULA BAXDO MAJEERTEENIYA SOWTUU TALYAANI IDINKU YEERIJIRAY REER BARI BARAAWO SEEMBERI SULUTO MAR ALA MARKUU ARKAY IDINKOO BADAHA TAAGTAAGAN OO MARKABKII SOO XIRTABA INDHAHA KU TAAGAYA BALSE QOFKII XIGMAD LEH AYAA MAGAC LOO BIXIN KARAA NOT MAJEERTEENOO KALE OGAADEENIA WAA DAD WAX GALA WAXNA GUDA EE SIDAAS AYAYNA KU HELEEN MAGACA OGADENIA EE NINKII DOOD QABOW INGIRIISKA LAYBAREERIYADA KUYAAL TAGOO AMASE TALYAANIGA AQRISO SABABAHA LOOGU BIXIYAY IYO HALGANKAY USOO MAREEN SOMALIA IYO OGAADEENIA SIDAAS AYAYNA KU HELEEN IN SOMAALI MEELKASTA AYJOOGTO MAGAC DHEERAATO SOOMAALIDA KALE MADHAHAAYI HEBELIYO HEBEL MIDNA EE ADIGA MASKAXDAADA KADHAMAYSTIRO CAYDANA HALA DAAYO CILMI YARI WEEYE WAXA WADAN SHISHIEEYE IDIN FARIISIYAY OO AAD MURANKA KA HAYSAANE WADANKIINA WAX UQABTA HADII KALE OWYUSMUK ISKA AAMU ASALAAMU CALAYK WABILAAHI TOWFIIQ

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cabdirazaq

Friday, January 05, 2001 - 07:41 am
Sidaan wadda ognahay qofwaliba qasdi u gooni ah ayuu leeyahay,oo eysan cid kale la ogeyn,asiga ayeyna khaas u tahay.waxaan jeclahay waxa aan halkan ku qorayo in ey noqdaan wax dadka wada quseeya.siyaasada arimaha dibada iyo tan gudaha ee itoobia waxaa ey ku dhisantahay ilaalinta masiixinimada itobia.dhulka somaliduna waxaa uu uyahay "security zone"_ereygaa markaad maqasho waxaan filayaa in ey kugu soo dhacdo lubnaan.itobia waxaa jirtay waqti laga rabay in ey war cad ka soo saarto waxa maslaxadeedu tahay iyo waxa ujeedadeedu tahay.waana ey ku guu leysatay markey ereyadaa aan wada naqaan ey soo saartay.waxaa kaloo ey ku guuleysatay in meesha leysku haysto eysan marnaba noqon dhul dad itobiyaan ah degen yihiin(labada dhufeys dhaxdooda yaa ku jira!?).cida markasta dhibaatada kusugan waa adiga "ama rab ama ha rabin'e".dhankeed la safani,mise dhaxdaad ku jiri,waa arin kuu yaal.cida geedka kugula xiran,waa muslimiinta xaqooda la duudsiyay intaanan dhulkaada la qabsan_xurnimadaadu xurnimadiisa ayey ku xirantahay.sideed yeeli ma keligaa ayaa baxsan!?laba arimood;xuriyada hadalka ee waqtigan la joogo wey ka duwantahay waqtiyadii hore,ereygaagu hadaadan dad badan gaarsiin karin "hadal xur uma tihid".tankale,diinteenu waa diin ku soo degtay magaalo magaalana ku hirgashay.suurad maki ah waa suurad magaalo ku soo degtey,suuro madani ahna waa mid ku soo degtey dad reer magaal ah.diintu sikastaba waa waa diin reer magaal ah,ee maxaa baadiyaha na dhigey weli.

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Anonymous

Friday, January 05, 2001 - 11:15 am
Ummadi waxay gumaystaha iska-xorayn kartaa marka iaydu xuquuq ahaan is-xaq dhowrto. Somali-Galbeed qabiilooyinka degaa hadayna ku middobin danta kulmisa oo ah Soomaalinimada xornimada ay tiigsanayaan waa hal baac lagu lisay. Dadka ku abtirsada qabiilka Ogadeenka waxaa kula talin lahaa isticmaalka magaca Ogaadenia khasaaro mooyey faaiido uma leh dadka qabiilka Ogadenka sheegta sabatuna waa arrimahan hoos ku taxan:-
1. Magaca Ogaadenia waxuu keenayaa in uu ka dhigo halganka xornima-doonka ee Somaali_Galbbed mid ah kacdoo qabiilka Ogaden,
2.Haduu dalka Soomali-Galbeed ku xooroobo siyasadda ONLF ama magac Ogaden waxaa adkaan doonta dhismo dowlad Soomali-Galbbed u dhanyihiin
taasoo sababi-doonta in uu dagaal sokeeyo ka curto Soomali-Galbeed.
Hadaba waxaa ku waanin lahaa indheergaratada Ogeedeenka ah in yeeshaan kasmo siyaasadeed oo hanan karta shacbiga ku nool Somali-Galbeed.
Waxaa ayaan daro qabiilkii u sad badsaday waa Ogaadeenke markii ay jirtay qaranka Soomaaliyeed in ay maanta didaan in Cariga Soomali Galbeed loo bixiyo magac Soomali oo gumaystaha Tigreeguna oglahay in loo bixiyo magac Soomali ah. Ogaadeenku may iloobeen dagaalkii 1977 dadkii Soomliyeed ee qabiil kasta ah ee noftooda u huray xoraynta Soomali-Galbeed si ay u xaqiijiyaan in carigu yahay cari Soomaliyeed. Waa ayaan daro ninka la yiraa Admiral Maxamed cusman Cumar oo ah Madaxweynaha ONLF in uu maanta dafro Soomalinimada Soomali Galbbeed isaago noolsha darajad iyo aqoonta heerku ka gaadhayba ay Soomali soo gaadhsiisay.

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Koshin

Friday, January 05, 2001 - 01:52 pm
TO MR. Anonymous

Hello, People, would you pls read my comments regarding why we opted to keep this name for time being before you speak ill of our leaders.

Thank you.

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cabdirazaq

Friday, January 05, 2001 - 11:35 pm
Qabiil waxaa uu magaalo soo galaa marka dadka magaalada degeni KARIWAAYAAN in ey sameeyaan wax ilbaxnimo ah ee muuqata.sharaftaadu waxaa ey ku xirantahay sharafta waxa aad u taagantahay.Gaalaba ha ahaadeene waxa ey difaacayaan(ee ah ilaalinta masiixinimada Itobia)ka sharaf weyn waxa aad difaaceyso,eed ku mashquulsantahay(ee qabiilka ah).WAXA EYNU KU FOORAARNO,IYO WAXA EY U TAAGANYIHIIN KALA DUWAN.

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abdirazaq

Friday, January 05, 2001 - 11:53 pm
Nin foorara iyo mid istaagani ma isku midbaa!?qabiilkaba ku fooraar'e,wax ceel ah eed u qoday ama iskuul aad u furtay ee caruurtu ey wax ugu barato ma jiraa!?

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Anonymous

Sunday, January 07, 2001 - 07:30 am
Kooshinow, fikradada ah in magaca Ogadenia u yahay magac sinya international legtimacy qadyada Soomali-Galbeed waa mid aan waxba kajirin. Arrinta aad sheegtay inay ku salaysantahy hodoof waxaa ku cadaynayy qodobadan hoos ku taxan:
1.Ka dib intii dowladda Ingriisku ku wareejisay cariga Soomalida Gumaysiga Amxaarada UN-tu waxay aaqoonsatay in degaanka Somaalida ee amxaarada lagu wareejiyey uu yahay gobol ka tirsan Ethiopia oo la dhaho Hararghe. Markaa tan aad leedahay magac Ogadenia wuxuu leeyahay "international legtimacy xaga UN-ta waa wax aan sal lahayn,
2.Faaìidada ugu weyn ee dadka Soomali Galbeed ka heleen burburkii xukumadii amxarada ee Mangistu waxay tahay markii ugu horaysay taarikhda Geeska Afrika ayey xukumad abyssiniya ahi ogolaatay in degaanka Soomaalida ee ay gumaysato magac Soomali ah loo bixiyo. Waxaa u arkaa ogolaanshaha Tigreegu aqbalay ku isticmaalka magac Soomaliyeed waa mid ku yimi halgankii dheeraa ee dadka Soomali-Galbeed ugu soo halgameen "identity" googa. Maanta UN-tu waxay aqoonsantay degaan leh magac Soomaliyeed oo Itoobiy federaal la ah sharci ahaan.Hadii maanta Itoobiya dagaal sokeeyo ka dhaco ama ay xukuumada dhex burburto dadka Soomali-Galbeed waxay leeyihii degaan mucayin ah oo UN-ta aqoonsanatay oo ku cad dastuurka itoobiya taa soo keeni -doonta in degaankaa Soomaliyeed uu noqdo mid xor ah sidii ay u xoroobeen Bosnia Crotia iyo Macadonia markii dagaalka sokeeyo ka dhacay dalkii la odhan-jiray Yuguslavia. Hadaan u soo dadago biyo dhacayga dadka Soomali-Galbeed waxay International legtimacy ku heli-karaan hadii xog laga xoranay ama xoriyadoodu ku imannaysaba burburka dowladda dhex ee Itoobiy(waa la hubaa in ay burbur-doonta Itoobiya waayo waa dhismo dowladeed asaaskeedu ku qotomo boqotooyo iyo "feudal structure":O in ay samaysato jabhad leh magac Soomaliyeed taasoo xoojinaysa magac UN-tu hada u aqoonsanatahay degeenka oo ah magac Soomaliyeed oo dalku markuu xorrobo la isticmaali karayo. Magaca Ogadenia waa magac u Ingriisku ugu tala-galay in uu ku tirtiro "Pan-Somali-Nationalisim" haile Selasse ku isticmaale in uu ku wiiqo Soomalinimada degaanka Soomali_galbeed. Haile Silaase si xun ayuu uga soo horjeeday in magac Soomaliyeed lagu yeedho Soomali-Galbeed waxaa isagana la mid ahaa Mangist iyo xukumadohoogii amxarada ahaa. Maanta waxaa ayaan daro ah in hogaanka ONLF oo leh waxaa u taaganahay xornimo in ay fulinayaa siyasadii Haile Selasse iyo Mangist oo aheyd in la wiiqo isbahaysiga shacbi weynaha Soomali -Galbeed iyagoo isticmaalay magac qabiil Ogaden. Taarikhdu ma cafi doonto hogaanka ONLF.

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indhacaro.

Monday, January 08, 2001 - 07:31 am
ninka topic bilaabay bal dib wax yar waxaad oogu noqotaa erayadaada. marka aad leedahay jabhad magac qabiil wadata(onlf) wadan maxorayn karto, maad fiirisid eraygaaga ah Tigre magacaasu qabiil ma'aha. mase laso cotaa in ogadeen kabadanyahay Tigree. walaal ufiirso ereyadaada inta aadan waxba kahadlin.
wabilah altawfiiq.

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Anonymous

Monday, January 08, 2001 - 08:29 am
Walaal indhacaro,
Anoo ka jawaabaya suàashada Tigree-gu qabiil
ma'aha ee waa qaran ama waxa afka ingriiska lagu dhaho "nation". Qaran waa dad isku af ah dhaqan ah
waayaranimo nolala siyasadeed wadaaga. Ogaadeenku waa qabiil ka tirsan qaranka Soomali-Galbeed.
Fikradaada ah in Ogaadenku ka badan-yahay Tigreega
adaa noo cadayn doona tirakoobka la sameeyey ee aragtidada xaqiijinaysa. Waxaa rabaa in aan ku sheego qaranka Soomali_Galbeed wuu ka badan-yahay
qaranka Tigree-ga siday cadaynaysoo tirkoobkii ay laba sano ka hor qaadeen xukumada dhex ee Itoobiya ka talisa ee ah Wayanaha-Tigree-ga ah.
Indhocarow ma waxaa amintay beenta ku salaysan Ogaadeen waa 8million. Fadlan indhocarow fikradaada ku salee aqoonta. Waxaa filayaa in aan jawaab waaf ah ku siiyey.

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Anonymous

Monday, January 08, 2001 - 12:02 pm
Nika isaga oo gumeysi ku hoos jira islaweyni hayso oo doonaya in wax uu guumeysto waa siddii diggaagii ciyey saqda dhexe.Guumeyste qabiil iyo iyo ku qaran maxay ku kala duwan yihiin?

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Koshin

Monday, January 08, 2001 - 02:58 pm
TO: MR. Anonymous

Waad ku mahadsantahay faaladadii ku saabsaneed magaca Ogadenia. Lakiin waan ka xumahay inaadan wax aqoon ah aadan ula heen arinka aadka hadleyso.
Waa tanaa sababheeda.

1. Waxaad tiri intii lagu wareejiya gobolka somalidu degto UN waxay u taqaanaa gobol kamid ah oo katirdan Harrarge.
Waxaa waxlalayaba ah ma naceeb aad u qabto Ogadenia ayaad been ka dooratey. Waxaan kaa codsanayaa inaad marka hore aad raadiso qoraalad ku saabsan arintan inta aad waxaan ood kale qoreysid.
Markii lagu wareejiyey Ogadenia Ethopia markii hore inta gudaha markii danbena intaa bananaka waxaa loyiqiiney Ogaden region, inta danbana waxaa uu qorayaa Bayaank U.N. The reverse region. Marna laba oran jirey Hararge.
Waxaa markii danbe ee Ethopio loo magacaabay dhulkan laga xukumi jirey Harrarge. Taas awoogeed ayaad naleedahay waxa la oranyirey Hararge.
Intii aan langu wareejin gobolka waxaa uu marka mid ahaa somali eeg maapkii 1884 waxaana la oran jirey Ogadenia.

2. Waaxaad kaloo ku anda dacooneysaa inuu tigreygu
macaga somali region ku bedel magacii loo yiqiin aytahay wanaag loo dhanyahay iyo iney siyaasad ka dambeyso macaga Ogadenia ee mingustu iyo helesalasaba ayku wateen isku dir. Waxaa layaable in aad garanweydid inuu Melesaba uu siyaasad iyo isku dir uu kawo magac badelida. Mase ogtahay inuu markii uu Helesalase tagey oo mingusto yimid inuu Helesalse noqday Haji marka loo geego Mingustu, mase ogtahay marka loo eego Zenawi inuu Mingustu noqonaayo Muslim.

Waryaa dadkani dadka xun masoo marin dhulkan aad ku andadacooneysid. Anigu hadii aanu hanay Ogadeina haddii aad doonatahay dheh qabiilka Ogaden koley sidaas ayaad u aragtaa ee, waanu diidaney in dumarkeena lakufsado, wiilasheena ladilo, in geelanee naga dhaco.

Inta aad macaga eegeysid eeg dhibaatad ku heysata oo adigu wax noqo, ama nasooraca oo nala gala halganka oo markaa magaca aanu iska raaligelino, ama midka aad dooneysaan ula baha.

Anigu dad walaalo ah ayaanu nahay oo xishmad iyo qadarin siinaayo dhamaan dadka walaalaheyn ah ee daga gobolka.
waxaan u dagaalameynona kaligeen in aanu guul garno ma'ah. Lakiin mar magaca laga wada hadlo iyo marke ayaa jiro. Haddii lagaaro guul waanu ogolnahay inaan sameyno magac somali weyn, lakiin hada majirto dhul layiraahdo somali galbeed oo uu aduunku aqoon uleeyahay, hadii ay jirto adiga ayaan kaa warsugaayaa.

Mahadsanin mudane

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Anonymous

Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 10:44 am
Sayid Koshin,
Go`aanàheyn aan kala saarno siin iyo saad.
Anniga Xaile-Selasse, Mangist. Males Zanawi makala xigsanayo ee sidii amxaarada hay wanjalin.
Nimanka kor ku xusan dhamaantood waxay ku caan baxeen dabar-goynta ayakatalinta Soomali-Galbeed.
Kooshinow, waxaa kobtantada iga muuqata in adan
qoraalkayga si fiican-adan u dhuuxin. Qoraalkayga waxaan ku qeexay in uu Malase Zanawi aqbalay in Gobolka Soomali-Galbeed lagu yeedho magac Soomaaliyeed taasso aan ku sii cadeeyey talabadaa
waxaa ku kaliftay ninka Malase Zanawi halgaankii dheeraa ee dadka Soomali-Galbbed u soogaleen halganka xornima u dirirka ah.
Ujeedaduu Malasse Zanawi ka leeyahay aqbalaad magac Soomaalidu waxay tahay arrimahan:
1. In uu u muujiyo shacbiga Soomali-Galbeed in xukumada Tigree-gu ka fiican-tahay tii Amxaarada,
2. Iyadoona aysan jirin talabo uu ku badbaadiyaa boqortooyda Itoobiya in uu aqbalo mooyaane xuququqda aykatalinta ummadaha eee itoobiyo gumaysato in ay gui-karaan in lagu qeexo dastuurka Itoobiya.
Labada qodob ee kor ku xusan ee Malase ku dhaqaaqay inkasto ay isaga la-tahay in uu ku hakiyo halganka aya-katalinta Soomali-Galbeed waxaa u arkaa in ay tahay arrimo faa`iido u yeelan doonta hanashada ayakatalinta Soomali_galbeed. Siday labadaa qodob uu Malase ku dhaqaaqa ay dan ugu taghay helitaanka xornimada Soomali-Galbeed waa sidan hoos ku taxan:
b. Loonka siysadeed ee qadyada Soomali-Galbeed waxay aheyd in carigani yahay dhulka Soomalida itoobiy Gumaysato. Taarikhda markii ugu horaysay ayey itoobiya aqbashay in dhulkani-yahay dhul Soomaliyeed. Xukumadadii ka horeyeyTigreegu waxay dafri jireen jiritaanka in qowmiyad Soomaaliyeed ku nooshahay Soomali-Galbeed haday qiraana waxay ku sheegi jireen dad ree guraa ah oo iska goosha Soomaliy iyo Itoobiya oo aan dhul lahay oo ah sida Jibsiga yurub degan,
Qodobak kale uu dastuurka ku ogolaaday in ummada Soomali-Galbeed iyo ummada kale ee cidida gumaysiga abyssinia ku jiraa inay ka xoroobi karaan Itoobiya sharcia ahaan waxaan u arkaa arrin
mustaqbalka faa`iido u yeelan kartaa baadi-goobka aqoonsiga caalamiga ah marka ay xorowdo Soomali Galbeed ama ha ku xorowda xooga ama ha ku xorowdo buburku xukumada tirda yar ee tigreega ah.
Koshinow taarikhda di u jeleec dalkaa la oran jiray Modowga Soofiyete waxaa caawiyey< dowladihii ka goày waxay aheyd dastuurkii Midowga Soofiyet oo qeexayey in ay sharci ahaan ka go`i
karaan Ruushka siday hadda dastuurka Itoobiya qeexayo. Mintidiinta AMXAARADA.
ah ee ku jira baralamaanka Itoobiya had iyo jeer waxay ku canbaareeyaan in dastuurka Itoobiy yahay ku sababi lahaa burburka Dowladda Itoobiya.
koshinoe waxaa filaya in aan ku sharxay siday faa`do inoogu yeeelan karto talabooyinka uu Malase Zanawi ku dhaqqay.
Hadaan ku soo noqdo magaca Ogaadeeniya, anigu uma arko in magacani uu leeyhay wax legtimacy-ah baadi-goobka xornimada soomali-galbeed. Magac loo bixiyo carriga Soomaliyeed ee abyssinia gumaysato
waxa legtimacy siin kara magac ummadeed oo aan ku salaysnayn magac qabiil. Dadka aan Ogadeenka aheyn ee Soomali-Galbeed magacani wuxuu ula muuqdaa magac aan ka turjumayn jiritaankooda(identity). Dadka Ogaadeenka ahna ee Soomali_Galbeed ninkii didda magac Ogaadenia waxay u arkaan nin necen qabiilka Ogaadeen.
Annigu qabiilka ogaadeenka ma necbi waa dad ka tirsan Soomali _Galbeed oo dhibaato xog lehi ku hhayo gumaysiga Tigreegu xaqna u leh in ay iska caabiyyan gumaadka uu gumaysiga ku hayo.Marka aan leeahay magaca Ogaadeniya laguma XORAYN KARO sOOMALI-Galbeed ujeedadyday waxay tahy halgankan ah kacdoonka qabiilka Ogaadeenka ah hala umadeeyo oo siysada ONLF ee ee siysas kobeeda ah ee qabiilka ku salaysan halkaga tanaasulo oo halga dhigo qadyad koobaysa dadka Soomali Galbeed.
Kooshinow qoroolkaagu wuxuu u dhacayey nin uu khuseeyo oo kali ah qabiilka Ogaadeenku ama danta qabiilka ogaadeenka difacaya. Anniga fikradaydi waxay ku salaysan-tahay difaaca danta dadka Soomali-Galbeed oo aan i kala-xigin.
Kooshinow waxaan kaloo kugu wanin lahaa adaabta hadalada qoraalka ah laysku waydaarsado waad ka aradan-tahay. Aniga aqoontayda waxba kama sheegi kartida anniguna sidoo kale. Hadii ay fikradaydu khalad kugula muuqato fikradady waad burin kartaan ado khaashanay cilmiga. Suaashii ku saabsanyd harahghe iyo Ogaden qaybtayda ka ayaan ku qeexi-doonaa



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Koshin

Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 01:56 pm
TO: MR. Anonymous

Marka hore waxaa kaa raaligelinayaa haddii aan wax hadgudub ah kuu geystay qoraalkeygii hore. Haqbaad uleedahay inaad fikradaada dhiibatid. Waxaana isku dayaa inaan markale kugu xadgudbin. Ujeedadeyduma ma'aheen taas.

Marka xiga. Wali waxaad ku an dadoconeysaa inuu Melisa Zewani wanaag ulajeeday macag bedelida dhulka looyaqaano Ogadenia. Waxaa cad in runta la xuso si xaqiiqda loogadoodo. Melisa Zewani ujeedadiisu marna ma'aheen inuu Ethopia mamulo ee taas oo ay tusaalo unoqoneyso markii uu xukumada Ethopia qabtay wuxuu ku dhawaaqay ineysan jiren wax layiraado Ethopia gabigeedaba.

Waxaanu uu doonaye inuu Tigree goosto, sida ay Eletria u goosatey dhulkeeda. Waxaa fikradan kabedelay Eliteria oo markaa u arkeysan haddii uusan Melisa Ethopia wada mamulin in ay dhibkunoqoneyso go intaakada. Waxaa kaloo soofoodsaarey arrimo dhaqaale oo dhulka Tigreygu dego waa buuroley abaaro ah.

Waxaanu wada ogsoonahay in isla markiiba ay ku dhaqaaqeen dhismaha Tigreegu iyagoo xitaa Nalalka korantad iyo warshadihii u raraaya wadonkoodii.
Arinta siyaasadee ee ku kaliftay in uu aqbalo dhulkana ma ahey inuu ka duwan yahay kuwiikale ee waxa ay aheed inuu kala qeyqeybiyo dadyowga Ethopia siiba Amhaarada oo neceb in loogu yeedho qabiilkooda kana jecel in loogu yeedo Ethopian.

Malisa waxaa uu doonaaye inuu shacabka ulala qeyb qeybiyo khabiil. waana u suurta qashay oo waatuu Amhaaradii ku diray Oramadii markii danbana uu laayey Oramadii gabigoodaba.

Dhulka Ogadenia aduunka oo dhanbaa ogsoon iney Somali ay iskaleedahay oo kuwii hore iyo kuwana marna maqarinkarin haddii aad adiga sidaa luguu sheekey aqri qoraalada faraha badan uu dhulka ku saabsan. Haddii aan loo aqoonsaneen maxaa Ingriiskii loogala xaajoday odayaashii somaliyeed ee dhulkan degaan? Waa waxlayaabo inaad tiraahdi Melesi wuxuu aqbalay in uu dhulkani yahay dul soomaliyeed, Malisa waxna ma aqbalikaro waxna madiidikaro oo waalawad ogsoonyahay iney dhulkani dhul soomaliyeed yahay oo looyaqaano Ogadenia.

Marka xiga waxaad soo sheegtay in hadii Ethopia burburto ay Somalidu helayaa Aqoonsi, Waa waxlalayaabo, sabobtoo ah Aqoonsiga aanu karabno Tigree muxuu yahay? Mida xigta malasocotaa inuu Dastuurka ogolyahay in lagoosankaro? hadii dastuurtanki uu ahey marin habaab lagu marin habaabinaayo maxaad usugeysaa inta Ethopia ayka burbureyso soo xaq umalihid inaad ku dhawaaqdo xooshasho adigoo raacaya dastuurka u degsan wadanka? Mase xasuusataa in 1994 alaha unaxariistee Xasan jirde uu Addis ku qabtay shirjaraaid oo ka turjumaya sida ay udoonayaa in gobolkooda afti laga qaado iyo tixgalinaya sharciga dastuurka cusub.

Midakale maxaad ugu aragtee inuu magacani uusan laheen wax sharci ah? Umada aad sheegeyso majoritigooda waa ogalyihiin oo inta yar yar eed ku jirtid may ogolaadan ama magac kale maadla baxdaan? Waxaad dooneysaan inaad iska hadashaan idiinka oo banaanka ka taagan dhiiga xaqa ah ee daadaynaayo.

Malasocotaa inta aadleedahay magaca madooneyno in hadda 1.3 million dad gaaraya ee qarka u saaranyihiin abaaro ay abuureen Dowladku sheega Zenawi, mase lasocotaa abaartii hore in ay masuulka ahaayeen Tigreyga. Fadlan aqrison warbixintana halka kuxusan ee qaxiijinaayo, ONLFna ka iman ee waa warbixin madaxbanaa.

Waxaan kaloo kuu sheegaayaa in maanta an markale nala marnin habaabineyni hadii aanu nahay dadweynahay Ogadenia, dadka walaalaheen ee nalanool way arkaan qafka nalagu hayo malinkasta oo dhibuma arkaan macaga aad ku andadocooneysid, anaga ayaa maalinkasta nafteyna u hurno, haddii aad runsheegeysid soogal halganka oon markaa aanu kawada hadelno magaca, haddii kale qaado Jidwaaq, ciise, issaq, iyo wixii lamid ah oo ku daqaaltaq.
markii guul lagaarana aan ula baxno waxaad doontaan. Inta taas laga gaarayo dhibka iga dhaaf,
gaalka gaalka dhaley ee injirta ka daadaneyso ee gabdhii Jidwaaq, ogaden, issaq, ciise, kuli malinkasta kufsanaayo, aan kaa celiye.

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Koshin

Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 02:08 pm
Iga raali ahow wakanaa ee aqriso
:http://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/en/2000/11/14corruptionaid


http://www.bernama.com/bernama/world/wo0901_3.htm

Go`aanàheyn maxaad kala saartaan siin iyo saad
dhamaateenbee. Inta aadka ficiloneysaa magacan kumeelgarka ah ayaad babeysaan.

Idinka naftiina mas'uulka noqda oo wax iska celiya
inta aad anaga halgankeena aad farta kufiiqeysaan.



GUUL

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indhacaro

Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 08:00 am
To: anonymous
walaal horta waxaa nasiib daro ah in aan kala saari wayno qaran iyo qabiil. horta marka hore Tigree waa qabiil. magaca (tplf) waxa uu lamid ahaa (onlf) magacaas ayeey haysteen ayna kuxoreeyeen wadanka. Inkasta oo markii danbe ay qaateen ama ku darsamee (eprdf) hadana waxa wadanka xukuma oo kataliya waa iyaga. taasna wax dad loosheego ama looga sheekeyo ma aha waa ruuxii kasta oo indhaha kalahaya oo lasocdo xaalada wadanka Ethiopia. xaga populationka ayaa timid walaal Tigree waxa uu ku jiraa qoomiyadah tirada badan laakiin waxa aan kuu sheegayaa Tigree in uu yahay qawmiyada shanaad(5) waa xaga populationka. taasna ruux kasta oo ethiopian ah oo aqoon uleh ayaa yaqaan. 1 waxaa ah Oromo, 2 waa ogadeen ama Amara, 3 waa bini shaaquul dadka loo yaqaan oo daga southka 4 waa Afar ama tigree hadii aad rabto xaqiiqda waxaa fiirisaa walaal tirakoobkii ahaa 1989. hadii aad ubaahantahay aniga ayaa kuusoo raadin inshaa alaah. marka waxalaal hadalka waan badiyay ee
waxa aad iga soo qancisaa waxa Tigreena ka dhigay Nation ama dawlad what ever you wana call Ogadena kadhigay qabiil. bal taas adiga oo cilmi iyo caqli adeegsan haya oo aan islahayn ogadeen cadaadi oo hadal ku cadaadi bal walaal iga soo qanci
wabila altawfiiq

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Anonymous

Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 12:22 pm
Sayid Indhocaro,
Marka hore intaynaan ku murmin in uu Ogaadeen
qaran yahay ama qabiil yahay aan isla meel-
dhigno waxaad ula-jeedid Ogaadeen. Hadaad
qabiilka Ogaadeen ee ka kooban reer Cabdule
reer isaaq Cawlyahan iyo inta kale anan qabtan-
tada ku qeexi karayn waa qaran waxaa ku leeahay
arrintaasi xaqiia maha. hadaad ula jeedid
Ogaadeen qabilooyinka degan Soomali-Galbeed
waxaa aan ku leeahay runtii baad abartay.Anigu
Soomali-Galbeed Ogadeen uma aqaano manaha magaca
ay raali ka yihiin dadka ku uumman Soomali-
Galbeed.

Indhacarow marka hore waa in la fahmaa micnaha
qaran(Nation) Dowlad(State oo afka fransiika
lagu dhaho Etat), Qaran-dowladeed(Nation-state
Dowlada qarameed State-nation ama afka
Fransiika Etat-nation).
1. Qaran-nation waa dad isku af ah dhaqan ah oo
wadaaga waayaranim siyasadeed. Tusaale hadaan
ku soo qaado danakiladu waa qaran, Oromadu waa
qaran. Qabiil la yiraahdo afan-qaloo oo
Oromada ka tirsan ayaa jira isagu qaran
masheegan karo waa qabiil sida Ogadeenku u
yahay qabiil ka tirsan qaranka Soomali-
Galbeed. Soomali-Galbeedna waxay ka sii
tirsantahay qaran-weynaha Soomaliyeed ee
kala qoqobay.
2. Dowlad wax yaalaha lagu sifeeyaa waain ay
shacbi ku nool degaan dhuleed lehna
xukuumad. qodobada sadexda ah hadii uu
midi ka maqan-yahay dowlad lagama hadli
karo.Qodobka afraad ee ee muhimka ah ee
waa madaxbanaani ama wax afafka qalaad
lagu yiraa sovreignty ama la souveraintè.

3. Qaran-dowladeed-nation-state waa qaran leh
dowlad.waxaan ujeeda qaran isku af ah isku
dhaqan ah oo leh dowlad tusaale Jermalka,
Soomaaliya markay dowladA lahayd Swaziland.
Dowlad-qarameed State-nations waa dowlad ka kooban qarama farabadan tusaale Ethiopia, India
Indonisia Jabuuti oo ka kooban danakil iyo Soomali. Ciisaha jabuuti maha qaran ee waa qabiil ka tirsan qaran-weynaha Soomalida ama qaran-yarahya Soomalida Jabuuti. dankiliga Jabuuti ku nooli waa qaran-yarah ka tirsan-qaran wenaha dankiliga kale ee ku uuman Ethiopia iyo Eritrea.

Indhacaraow qaran waxaa la oran karaa sidan kor ugu sharxaye dad isku af ah dhaqan ah dhqaal bulshadeed leh. Ogaadeenku waa qabil ka tirsan qaranka Soomalida. Soomali-Galbeed waa qaran. Soomali-Galbeed haday xorowdo waxay noqon-doontaa qaran-dowladeed iskeed u tagan ama waxay ku biiri-doontaa qaran-dowladeedka weyn eee Soomaliyeed. Itoobiya marka burburto Tigree-gu wuxu dowlad ka samaysan-doona waxa hada loo yaqaan ismaaulka tigree-ge oo waxa uu noqon-doona qaran -dowladeed. Eritre maanta nidaam-dowladeedka ka jiraa waa dowlad-qarameed-State-nation waay eritra waxaa ka jira sagaa qarameed.
Indocaraow waxaa filayaa in aan inta karaankayga ah isku-daeye in aan ka dhaadhiciyo in qabiil usan qaran ahayn. wixii faala ah ee aad ka qabtid aragtidaydan waad ii soo gudbin-kartaa. waxaanse rabaa in aan ku sheego qabiilka ogaaden ma nacbi. Mecnaheegu maha hadaan idhaahod Isaaq qqaran maha ama darood qaran maha ee waa qabiil in ann labada qabiil necebahay. Cudurka buufiska yenaan gaarsini aragtiyooyinky cilmiyeed ee aan is-dhaafsanayno.

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kOSHIN

Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 03:01 pm
MR.ANONYMOUS

QARAN WAXAA LAYIRAAHDAA WIXII ADUUNKOO IDIL UU AQOONSAN YAHAY XUDUUD UGAARNA LEH. WAXBA KAMA JIRO INEY ISKU AF IYO DIINTOONA AY AHAADAAN. ADIGU NAF'AHAANTAADA HADDII AAD DOONEYSO HA AQOONSANIN LAKIIN RAAC XEERKA DUNIDA U TAALO.

SIDA AANU OGSOONAHAY MAJIRTO MEEL LOO YAQAANO SOMALIGELBEED DUNIDA. HANA IGA XUMAANIN SABABTOO AH WAAN JECLAHAY INEY TIMAADO TAAS LAKIIN WAQTIDAN HADA AH WAX AAD KU DOODO MEESHA MAYAALO.

HADDA WAXAAN ADDUUNKA OO DHAN U JAQAANAA GOBOLKAN OGADENIA WAXAANA FIICAN INTA AAD RUNTA KAHASHID, KUMA LIHI OGADEN BAAD NECENTAHAY AMA JECESHAY LAKIIN OGOW INUU XITAA ZENAWI KHAADSIN LAYAHAY DUNIDA WAXAA UU UGU YEERAYO SOMALI REGION.

MIDA KALE ADINGU MAXAAD KU SIYAADISEEN OO DHEERAD AH, WAAD UUN ISKA DOODEYSAANE, MAXAAD HESAAN OO WADANKA XORIYADIISA KU BIIRISEE? MA ISMAAMUSHEEN OO QORSHIHIINU MUXUU YAHAY? NOOSHEEGA MEESHA AADKA TAAGAN TIHIN? MAXAAD UGU SOO MEEREYSANEYSAAN MAGACAN? BOQOL MAR AYAAN IDIIN SHEEGNAY ANAGU WAANU IS MAMULNEY OO UJEEDADEYNA WEYCADAHAY LAKIIN IDINKU WAA MAXAY UJEEDADIINU?
ILAA HADA WAAN FAHMILA'AHAY II SHEEG WAXAAD DOONEYSAAN IDINKA OO KA GUDBAAYO MACAN.

WALAAL OGADEN WAA HORMODKA OGADENIA OO WAXAAN NALAGU YAHAAN IXTIRAAN WALAALTINIMO INAA UHEYNO DADKA HALKAA DAGAN. SIDAAD OGSOONTAHAY KOLEY ANIGU OGADEN BAAN AHAY ADIGUSU WAXAAN FILAAYAA INADAN IGA FOGEEN EE AAN ISWALAALEYSANO WAAD ARAGTAAN DHIBAATADA MAANTA KA SOCOTO SOMALIA EE ITOOBIYA AYKU HEYSO. FADLAN AQRISO JOORNALKA BANAADIR EE KASOO BAXA MUQDISHU, WAXAA HUBAAL AH INEY RABEEN IN CABDALLA DEEROW LADILO OO ISGA NAF'AHANTIISA KA MAQLAY RADIO AY ISKULA HADLAAYEE ETHIPIANKA IYO CIIDAMADII MORGAN.

MEESHAN NABI MATAALO EE FADLAN IS ABAABULO, AMA NOO SHEEGA WAXAAD DAMACSANTIHIIN. ISKA DAAYA DOODAN AAN MICNAHA LAHEEN.

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Yaabane

Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 09:43 pm
Koshin

Adiga oo raali iga ah waxaan u malayn in wax badan taariikhda gobolkaa ahi ay kaa maqantahay.

Maxaa yeelay, gobolka dhammaantiis looma yaqaanno loomana aqoonin Ogaden.

Ha ka xumaan sida aan hadalka u dhigay. Laakiin aan ku fahansiiyo, meelo badan oo aan waligood loo bixin Ogaden ayaa maanta ka mid ah gobolka. Haddaba ma ka maarannaa. Sideense u xallinnaa.

Qodobka kale, miyaadan ogayn in magacan uu bixiyey gumeyste raba inuu xaqiro dadka ku nool degaanka kala qaybiyana. Sideed ugu dhagganaan kartaa magacaas uu gumeystuhu bixiyey haddana u sheegan kartaa inaad la halgamayso gumayste.

Anigu waxaan u arkaa haddii sida aad sheegayso uu Melez ku dadaalayo inuu gobolka u bixiyo Somali Region isaga ayaaba dad badan u sheegta gobolka u dhaama. Mase qabo inuu ku dedaalo ee wuxuuba ku dedaalaa sida uu u sii kala qaybin lahaa.

Marka isku day inaad saaxada ballaadhiso ogowna ma aha dhib iyo dheefta arrinta degaankaasi mis u taalla qabiil kaliya.

Anigu reer ahaan waxaan ahay Ogaadeen, waxaanan aaminsanahay inaan gobolkan loo bixin Ogaden lagana xigsan dadka kale, saa kamaba maarmee.

Waxaan ku weyney SOmaalinimo Ogaadeennimo kuma heli karno. Sidaa darteed, ha inaga dhex saarina dadkeenna.

Yaan lala caadhifoon inta aan wax garadka u badnayn. Hana la darso sida ay dhibaatada degaanku u soo jiitanatay muddadii qarniga ahayd ee tagtey.

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Anonymous

Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 11:46 pm
sAYID YAABANE,
RUNTII WAXAYNU NAHY DAD ISKU AFKAAR AH OO KU MIDAYSAN IN DADKA sOOMALI-GALBEED YIHINNUL IYO DIIRKEED.dHILADA KA DHACDA DHAGAXBUUR WAY TABANAYSAA JIG-JIGA AMA DIRIDHBA. GHABDHAHA SOOMAALIYEED EE TIGREE-GU KU KUFSANAYAAN DULEEDKA QORAYXAY WAA GABDHAHAYAGII. sAYID KOOSHIN WUXUUNA GARAN MASHAKILKA SIYASADEED EE MAANTA KA ALOOSAN GAYIGA SOOMALI-GALBEED IN LAGU XALIN-KARO WADAJIRKA SHACBI-WEYNAHA SOOMALI-GALBEED EE XALKIISU KU JIRIN KACDOON QABIIL OO AAN LAHAY HADAF STRATEJIYADEED EE QARANIMO.kOOSHIN WUXUU KU FAANAYAA ANAGU HADAAN NAHAY OGAADEEN WAXAAN LEENAHAY ONLF EE DADKINA KALE EE AAN OGAADENKA AHEYN EE SOOMALI-GALBEED DEGAA WAX MMAAD SAMAYSATANN.
kOOSHINOW WAXAA KU SHEEGAYAA DHAQDHAQAA ONLF DAD OGAADEENKA AH DHIBAATO MOOYAANA WAX DHEEF AH UMA KEENIN WAAYO WAA URUR KU KOOBAN HADAF QABIILEED TAASI WAXAY KEENTAY IN GUMAYSIGA TIGREE-GU BARTILMAAMEED MILITARI KA DHIGTO BEESHA OGAADEENKA.
kOOSHINOW WAXAAN KU SHEEGAYAA IN INDHEERGARADKA SOOMALI-GALBEED KU JIRAAN QORSHE SIYASADEED OO BALAARAN OOYOOLKEEDU YAHAY SAMAYNTA URUR HORUSOC AH OO AAN KU DHISNAYAN QABYAALAD SIDA ONLF OO KOOBAYA DHAMAAN SHACBIWEYNAHA sOMALI-GALBEED.
HA U QAADAN OO KALI AH DAGAALKA QARANIMO RAADISKU IN UU YAHAY OO KALI AH DAGAAL JABHADEED. dAGAALKA QARANIMO RAADISKA WAXAA KA MID AH HORUMARKA WAXBARASHO DARYEELKA CAFIMAADKA IWM. kOOSHINOW FIIRI MAANTA NOLASHA KA JIRTA jIG-JIGA IYO QABRIDAHAR.

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Indhacaro

Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 06:05 am
To: anonymous
walaal horta waan kusalaamay. Ninyahaw horta runtii qoraalo badan oo isku wax ka hadlaya ayaad soo qortaa. walaal horta waxa qaran ladhaho qasab ma aha in uu noqdaan iku af, isku diin ama isku dhaqan. horta waxa qaran ladhaho waa sida uu kuu sheegay koshin. marka aana waxba isku sii xiijinin. horta Ogaden magaca ladhaho mabixinin guumaysi magac qabiila ma aha waxa aan lahadlayaa ninka Yidhi guumaysi magac uu buxiyay waye.
Run ahaantii marka aan kahadalo magaca ogaden ma aha magac qabiil ee waa magaca gobalka. hadii aan wax kaaga sheego qabiilka, horta Ogadeen waxaa ladhihi jiray magiciisa saxa ah CabdiRaxman Oge. marka horta qabiilka magaciisa saxa ah waxaa ladhahaa Reer cabdiraxman oge. laakiin maadama Ogadeen kagudbay in uu isku magaaco qabiil waxa uu doorbiday in uu isku magaacbo reer ogadenia wadankana uu kumagacaabo Ogaden. ninka yidhi waxaa bixiyay gumays horta gumaysgii oogu horeeyay oo soogala wadanka ogaden waxa uu soogalay 1848 mraka magacuna wakhtigaas kahor ayuu baxay saaxiib. hadii adigu aad rabto in aad dadka wax cusub kadhaadhico wakhtiga labixayay iyo dadka bixiyay soo sheeg ileen waa lawada yaqaanaa guumayashii yimid wadanka ogadenia ee.

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Anonymous

Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 11:55 am
Sayid indhocaro,
Marka hore waad salaamantahay marka xiga ii ogolow in aan jawaab ka siiyo fikradaada aad ku burinaysay afkaartayda.
1.Adiga iyo koshinba sida aan u qeexay micnaha qaranka-nation, dowlada-state.qaran-dowladeedka-nation-state, state-nation-dowlad-qarameedka fikrad aad ku burinaysiin oo aad madasha website-ku soo bandhigteeen majirto,

2.Si aan marlabaad idiinku qanciyo in qeexida qaranku tahay dad isku af ah dhaqan ah, waayargnimo siyasaded soo wada maray mararka qaarkoodna isku-diin. hadaan sharaxaygaa aan tusaale u soo qaato dalka la dhaho qubrus ee afka qalaad loogu yaqaano cyprus waxaa ku uumman laba qaran oo kala ah Griig iyo Turk. hadaan tusaale kale idin siiyo dalka la yiraahdo srilanka waxaa ku nool laba qaran oo kala ah Sinhalise iyo tamil.
dagaalka maanta ka socda Srilanka iyo xisada ka aloosan quburus waa loolan ka dhexeya ummadaha oo Tamilka iyo Turkigu u halgamayaan aykatalintooda.
Sidoo kale dadka ku umman Soomali-galbeed oo dad qaran ah waxay rabaan iy ay afkooda dhaqankooda diintooda iyo dhaqaalahoogu ka xorob dhaqanka afka iyo nidaamyada kale ee abisiniya.Fadlan si aad u fahmtiin sharaxa nation akhriya buuga la yiraa "THE DICTIONARY OF WORLD POLITICS A REFERENCE GUIDE TO CONCEPTS, IDEAS, AND INSTITUTIONS BY gRAHAM EVANS AND jEFFREY NEWNHAM".
wAXAA KALO FIRIN KARTIIN HADAAD AFKA FRANSIISKA TAQAANIN BUUGA LA YIDHAA "DICTIONAIRE DES RELATIONS INTERNATIONALES SOUS LA DIRECTION DE PASCAL BONIFACE.
3 fADLAN WAXAA FICAN MARKA FIKRAD QOFKU BURINAYO IN UU KEENAYO AFKAAR LA TABAN KARO OO AKHRISTAHA UU KU QANCI KARO. iNDHOCARO WUXUU KU DOODAY IN MAGACA oGADEENIA USAN GUMAYSIGU BIXIN UU AHAA MAGAC SOO JIREEN AHAA.sIDII FRANSIISKU MARKII DAMBE UFU BIXIYEY dJABOUTI FRENCH TERRITORY OF AFAR AND ISSA OO UJEEDADA KA DAMBAYSAY AHEYD IN LA DABARGOOYO WADINIMADA sOOMALIDA AYUU iNGRIISKUNA UGU BIXIYEY CARIGA sOOMALI-GALBEED oGADENIA AMA OGADEN SI UU ULA DAGAALAMO WADINIMADA sOOMALIDA.
3. wAXAA LAYAABKA LEH DADKA KOSOVO EE RABA IN AY KA XOROBAAN SERBS WAY KU FANAAN ALBANIYIIN IN AY YIHIIN DADKA oGAADEENKA QARKII OO AY HORMOOD U YIHIIN HOGAANKA ONLF MAXAY U BIYO DIIDSAN-YIHIIN MAGAC sOMALI-GALBEED AMA MAGAC sOOMALIYEED OO ABKOOD IYO DHQANKKODUBA YAHAY sOOMALI KANA ASKUMAY.

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WADANI

Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 04:51 pm
OGADEN IS MINORATY PEOPLE WESTREN SOMALIA
dadkaana waxey dabadhilif u yihiin tigre- ma ahan ethiopia haday sidan uhadlaana waxaan shaki ku jirin in ay mudo dheer ay gumeysi ku sii jiraan ayagoo muddo dheer ku soo jirey 1884 kii ilaa maantana ay fikrad qalada aamin san yihiin.
ha xorowso soomaali galbeed.
waqti ay noqoto/

waana mahadsan tihiin dadka soomaalinimo qaadey oo ay dhibeyso umadaan gumeysiga ku hoos jira.

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Anonymous

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 01:06 am
Mr. Wadani,
The ogadenis are not minority people in Western-Somali as you argued. In politics, the concept-people is equated with a nation. The Ogaden clan is neither nation nor clan.Kurdistan is a nation without state. The Western Somalis are people or a nation without state. They are in search for statehood. The Ogadenis are part and parcel of Western-Somali people. The Ogadenis are not a minority clan in Western-Somali but they are considered as the largest clan in the Ethiopian occupied Somali region.

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abdirazaq

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 01:10 am
Forum_ka aad ayuu uga duwan yahay chat_ka.chat_ka waxaa muhiim ah qofka aad markaa aad rabto in aad gooni ula faqdo,forum_kuse waxaa muhiim ah qoraalka aad qorto,looma baahna in aad qof la ficiltanto.

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Anonymous

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 01:27 am
Dear Wadani,
In my previous statement, it is written that Ogadenis are neither nation nor clan. Please note that the statement is typed incorrectly.
My correct statement is Ogadenis are neither People nor a nation.

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Anonymous

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 01:27 am
Dear Wadani,
In my previous statement, it is written that Ogadenis are neither nation nor clan. Please note that the statement is typed incorrectly.
My correct statement is Ogadenis are neither People nor a nation.

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indhacaro

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 06:04 am
To: anonymouse i don't understand your views and still they all are same brother. and let me tell you something bro. the author of the book which you point me out to look at it the word "Nation" doen't mean he is the onle one who can describe the meaning of that word. It could have alot of meanings, and every author can explain it in diffirent meanings. so please don't just stick with just only one meaning bro.
And one thing else bro. the word "Ogaden" is not a clan Name, it is a Nation Name a country Name, like it or not and will remain for ever the Name "OGADEN". And one more thing don't you know this Name is a Somali word and has deep meaning. it is not like solmali-land, punti-Land, Djabouti. This Name existed before English coliny. don't you know when english came to Ogaden country was somewhere 1900's. Please bro. try to know about the counries and it's name history before you say anything about them.
Ogaden is a country Name and it will be never Changed, like it or not bro.
if you don't agree with me,
let's respect our views each other and agree to disagree, then move on.
take what ever name you like and leave my name it alone.

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Walaalkaa Soomaaliyeed

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 10:00 am
TO:Dadka kuriyoon Dal ogaadeen
Meeldheer idinkoo umarin waxaa tusaale idiinkugufilan magaca beejkan dhawaanta lafuray
Magaca uu kufuranyahay ee ah (SOOMAALI GALBEED)hadii taas aad arkiwayseen oo kiyaale sooqaata oo loogutalagay (DADKA INDHAHA LACIIFKA KA AH)

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Anonymous

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 11:15 am
Waxaan jecelay inaan saaxiibkayga dalka ku tilmaamay ina Magaciisa la yidhaahdo ogaadeen xasuusiyo inuu ilawsanl yahay inaan dalka la odhan jirin xiligii gumaysigu wareejiyay ogaaden keliya ee uu lahaa laba Magac oo kala ah;-
Ogaden iyo reseef area. Haddba waa iga su'aale ma waxaa la xxoraynayaa oo keliya qaybta loo yaqaanay ogaden intii kalena waa laga tegayaa oo waxaa degan dadkale oo aan ogaadeen ahayn, mise dalkii ayaa lag bedelay Magacii kale? Mida kale halganku maxuu ku kooban yahay ogaden oo keliya mise waa loo dhan yahay? Inkastoo aan la socdo waxa hadda dhibtu ku dhacaysaa inuu yahay ogadeen?

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indhacaro

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 12:48 pm
To: anonymous horta iga hano tii caadada inoonoqtay baryahan oo ah salaan. kadib horta mid ayaan kuusheegi I am not going to give it up until you give it up and leave my Counry's name alone. in this writing i would like to give you a very brief explaination about Ogaden region. The reason i'm giving you this is that because you kept saying "Ogaden waa magac gumaysi bixiyay" and so on, laakin waxaa nasiib daro ah in aad ku qanci waydo oo aad kazuuli waydo, but you have to know one thing too if you don't agree with me, it is usualy for you. first i want to ask you one question brother have you ever seen the name somali-gelbeed or reseef area on any book. i believe the answer is no. Ok then let me get to my point, go to any library and have a encyclopedia, no matter what kind it is, Amaricana encyclopedia, British Encyclopedia, and look at it what they say about the word Ogaden. Do they explain it as clan no, they don't. "OGADEN" a region occupied the barren plain between the somalia and ethiopia.Its people ancestors migrated there in 16th century. in 19th century ogaden was claimed by both Ethiopian and Italian, protectors of the somalin-land. the ethiopian emperor Menelik II haveing defeated the italian at Adowa in the North in 1896 forstalled them in the east by occupying the Ogaden with his army. Desagreemen about the boarders remained, however. Italy occupied Wal Wal in the early 1930's and launched full-scale invasion of the ogaden from the somaliland in 1935. The region was combined with somali-land the next year to form Italian East Africa. Ethiopia recovered the Ogaden in the world war II with the aid of France and the United Kindom.
In 1960 the wslf was formed which was led by Mukhatl DAhir.
The English colony which you kept saying they coined this Name "ogaden" they came to Ogaden in between 1920-1948.
now i think you learn something about ogaden and you will stop your debate which doesn't based on any knowledge about ogaden country or its name. you can ask any one whose age is over 65 and lived there "ogaden" area when British colony occupied that region and he/she will tell you when.
my apology for the long writing.
late bro. as long as you are in denial, i will try my best to give you any possibly respond to defend my counry's and its name right.

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Anonymous

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 02:35 pm
Dear Indhocaro,
It is vividly a fact the name ogaden meant to be the land of the Ogaden clan by the British colonial power. The ogadeni chauvanistis believe the name Ogaden could be an instrument to sustain the former`s hegemony in Western-Somali in pre-independence and post-independence eras.The Western-somali people profoundly detest the name Ogaden to be called to their land as the palestinians harshly hate the name MOUNT-TEMPLE to be called to Masjidil Aqsa.
I am of the openion that it is hardly easy to convince the Ogadeni-chauvanists that the clanish name ogaden is divisive and service no purpose to the short-term and
long-term interest of the Western-somali people.

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Koshin

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 03:30 pm
TO: Anonymous and others inline.

I being trying to take part in this debate with civil manner but I have came to the conclusion that non of you above have stated your points besides traggling with the Ogadenia's name.

I am surprised that Mr. Anonymous who likes to write as much as he does haven't explain to me my previous questions.

1. What are you guys doing to contribute your own freedom based on we agree that current Tigray regime is nothing but a dictatorship.

2. Do you have any form of Organization that speaks about your hardships

I wanted to ask you more question but I"ll keep it simple to see if you could be kind enought to give me your atmost answers with out coming back to this name.

just little remainder you have stated JIGJIG and QABRIDAHARE are doing exceptional in ecomomic grownth and infrastructure that is not true. I have enclosed here for your reference an independed sources to clarify that 1.4 million poeple in this erea are virge of hungre.

Pls go back and read the links that I have forward previsouly.

I shall wait your responses.

Thank you.

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shakuur

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 04:10 pm
Mintid midnimo OGADENIA ha xorowdo, maalkeena iyo xoogeenana haku xoroowdo(insha allah).
Shacabka reer ogadenia waxa ay ku jiraaan dagaal umulla dooxa ah oo aan cidna loo aabeyeelayn kaas oo aykula jiraan jabhad uraysa oo ciidoodii hooyo xaqdaro ku joogta. Halgankaas oo ku xiran aaye ka talinta shacabka reer ogadenia. JWXO(ALOW LAJIR)inta nafle(san ku neefleh) aysan shacabka reer ogadenia raali ka ahayn ku suganyahay ciida ogadenia, darandooriga halganka xoriyadeed way wadayaan maalinba maalinta ka danbaysana way kasii adkaysanayaan(kanaxoow nafta waa).Halka gobalo badan oo katirsan gobaladdii jamhuuriyadii soomaaliyeed ay adeegto uguyihiin cadawga caaqibada xun, ku waas oo sharaftii shacabka soomaaliyeed hoos dhigay ugana raali noqday inuu ku tunto cadawgii soomaaliyeed ee waqtiga xun lagaadayay jiritaanka umada soomaaliyeed kaas oo aan marnaba naxariis u haynin umada soomaaliyeed.
Hadaba soomaaliyeey waxaad ogaataan in shacabka reer ogadenia sharaftii magaca soomaaliyeed meel walba hajoogee ay uhurayaan naftooda iyo maalkooda isdoo kale waxaa kalintoodii kasoo baxay shacabka reer jabuuti iyo maamulkooda.
ugu danbayn iyo dockayeer,khaa'in iyo khaatumo xunba:marnabana ha ka filin in lax dhukan macaaaaaaaac deeda dhagaystaan reer ogadenia.
kaasi waa ka waxa aan loo joogin hahaabanaya ee ku jira riyo maalmeed aan marnaba soortoobaynin
hadaba kaasoow shacabka reer ogadenia waxa ay kuleeyihiin riyo maalmeed sabankani wuu katagay xaqiiqdii bayna taagantahay. Shacabka reer ogadeniana ma kala jecla waxa aad tahay iyo cida aad tahay hadii aadan halganka ka qaybqaadanaynin waxa hada taagana waa halgane ma aha magac bixin ogowna waliba inaan dib loogu noqondoonin magac,qabiil, jeesjees, reer, qoysqoys iyo wixii lamida taas oo uuhadda gumaysigu nafka dayayo shacabka reer ogadenia ee halganka u istaagayna wuxuu u arkayaa cidii latimaada wax yaabo noocaa oo kala ah inuu adeegto u yahay qoorxunta jaqaysa dhiiga shacabka reer ogadenia kuwaas oo waqtigoodu sii gabaabsiyahay. Hadaba ninkaagaa gamaanyada ku jiroow gagidu waa maalin ee inta dhurwaayadu ayna meelahaa kugu feenfeenan intaad guntiga boobto ood xayi u istaagto wax dalbalaad u egtahaye shacabka reer ogadenia dhinaca karaac walaahi waqtigu waa gabaabsi qalbigaaga maskaxdaada iyo cagligaagana gali waxaan u malaynayaa inay ku fuuntoobeene inaan cidna loo joojinaynin.
Suaasha xun ee aad meesha keentayna waxa aaad ogaataa oo aad ku seexataa in shacabka reer ogadenia aan shaki ku jirin in ay xoriyadooda sida ugu dhaqsaha badan u hanan doonaan.
Waxaa kale oo aad ogaataa in shacabkani kalla jejlayn injirayda iyo ninka fulinaya awaamiiraha injirayda saydoonto suuradiisu ha u ekaatee.
Galbeed galbeedka iyo waxaa aad la wareegaysana sidii ninkii bixiyay udhintay ayaa galbeed kaad sheegaysana udhintay lagamana yaqaan carada reer ogadenia.
Sidaan horayba kuugu sheegay sida qulunbaha ama cantaloowga midkaad u taqaan hadhuutaalaynine kbax dhuutaalaynta iyo lafdhamaatay kumeerista aad ku dulmeerayso.
Nafaqada iyo dhadhankuba waxa ay kadanbeeyaan dhiiga xoriyada ogadenia loo daadiyo kaas oo hada dhamaan shacabka reer ogadenia ku walanyihiin.
Haddaba hadii aad dhiigaga iyo naftaada la carartay kadu shacabka reer ogadenia dhareerka ga uraya ee aad injirayda la hoosgashay
(LAMA ARAG NIN ISLAAM AHOO GAAL ADEEGSADE E)
Mintid, midnimo allahu akbar ogadenia ha xoroowdo

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Koshin

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 04:18 pm
Mr. Indhocaro.

My follow countryman please accept my greetings.
I read your posting and I must say I agree with you in all of your points.

I don't know how much time they are going to devote their personal attacts on our name, instead of get going with what is important to them defending their people.

I guest this is another way to blind one's self from his/her responsibilies and creat an illusion to justify not fulfulling thier duties.

I am disapointed but will give them a time to answer my questions.

VICTORY!!!!
ONLF.

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abdirazaq

Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 01:51 am
Cidii ciidan leh ayaa qaran ah.
Gobolku karaamo yeelan maayo hadeysan dadka gobolka u dhashay karaamo yeelan.Karaamadaadu waxaa ey ku xirantahay heerka uu yahay karaamada dadka golka kugula nool,hadey hooseyso,ogow in ey taaduna ka roonaaneyn.
Hadalku waa xuriyada.In aad wanaaga taageerto,xumidana aad ka soo horjeesato,ayaa kaba sii sareeya.

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abdirazaq

Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 01:59 am
Isgaarsiintu waa qeyb ka mid ah ilbaxnimada casriga ah.Waxaa maanta suurto gal ah,in la aruuriyo,la keydiyo,lana baahiyo wax soosaarka fikradeed ee bulshada.Ganacsatadu yeysan moodin in badeecada uun laga ganacsado.

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abdirazaq

Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 02:01 am
Luqada rasmiga ah ee gobolku,miyeysan aheyn soomaaliga!?

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Ogaadeeni

Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 07:00 am
waxaan umaleynayaa waxa carqalada wado waa qabiilo yaryar oo waligaynba nagu daba gaban jiray..
waana caadiyoo waligaynba waanu arki jirnay taas oo kale..
waxaan umaleynayaa OGADENIA waa qabiil waana dowlad ninkii beerka xanuunayo ogaadeen baa gumac ku dawaynayee ha sheegto. yuunan daahyada dabadooda kahadlin kii kalana ha ha aamuso..

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Anonymous

Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 10:37 am
Indacarow qoraalkaagii hore waxaa ugu weydiisay magaca ogadeen cida bixisay. wWaxaan kobtantada kugu qeexi cida bixisay iyo magacan micnihiisa.
Magacan bixitaankiisa sidaan horay kugu sheegay
waxaa bixiyey ingriiska oo u bixiyey qaranka Soomali-galbeed marku arkay dagano badan oo cariga Soomali-galbeed ah oo ay deganyihiin
Ogaadeen absame.
Laakiin magacan waxaa bixintiisa uga horeyey reer aw qudub ah oo reero degan buuralay u bixiyey ogaden. sidaad ka arkaysid magacan wuxuu ka kooban yahya lab erye oo kala ah ogo+degeen. labada eray marka laysku geeyo wuxuu noqonayaa ogo degeeen taasso micnaheegu tahay dadkii dhulka sare deganaa.

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indhacaro

Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 11:04 am
To: anonymous
ma eega ayaad keentay arin hor leh. cajiib ayaad leedahay. saaxiib maqal inbadan ayaan isku cel celinay eraygan
1. anigu waan kuusharxay magucu in uu baxay english colony ka hor, bal adigu wakhtigii uu bixiyay soo raadi.
2. labada eray eed israacisay maha erayo u dhigma magaca. saaxiib ma soo maali cusub ayaad adigu beeri.
3. ma eega ayaad iscadeesay in aad tahay reer aw qudub (who ever they). aad iyo aad ayaan ooga xumahay in aad qariso magaca qabiilkaaga.
eega hadaba hal ogaw saaxiib in aanan dib danbe kuugu jawaabaynin waayo ruuxii kuu dhigma ayaa la la tartamaa. marka adookale lama hadlee orad oo meelhaas kasoo xad xadree si aad hilib aad cunto uheshid.
doodaana aqoon kusoo dhis marka aad rabtid in aad rag la doontanto.
late

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Anonymous

Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 11:08 am
Indhacaro:
Saaxiib Waxaan ahay nin ka mid ah dadka aad u daneeya dhulka aan ka sheekaynayno, wax badana raadiyay taariikhda dhulkaasi, waayo aragna u ah dhulkaasi, waxaanan filayaa inaan ahay dadka ay dhibta ugu badani ka soo gaadhay Gumaysiga dhulkaasi haysta , lagamana sheekayn karo waxyaabaha aan kala kulmay, dhulka in badan oo ka mid ahna waxaan ku maray lugtayda, waxaa laga yaabaa inaan waayo aragsanay. Haddaba waxaan kuu sheegayaa inaan taariikhda cidna dafiri karin. Waxaan jecelay inaan kuu tilmaamo inaan baadhitaankaaga ku noqotid oo aad raadiso wixii uu dhulkaasi ka qoray Ingriisku maarkuu dhulka haystay oo ay weliba la socoto mapka dhulka . Weliba aan kuu ifiyo qoraalka ugu dameeyay ee la daabay 1945tii laguna Magaabo (SOMALILAND PROTECTORATE)

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kaadheeri kaynaan

Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 01:56 pm
JABHADA ONLF IN HANAAN SOCODKEEDA SIYASADEED KU SALAYSAN YAHAY QABIILNIMO WAA MID CAAD SAARAYNAYN
TAA WAXAA U DALIIL AH FIKRADAHA DADKA ISKU SHEEEGAYA IN AY YIHIIN OGAADEEN OO KU FAANAYA QABIILNIMO WAKHTI LOO BAAHAN-YAHAY IN SHACBIGA SOOMALI GALBEED LAYSKU KEENO SI LOOGA BADBAADIYO WAARABAHA WAYAANAHA-TIGREE-GA.
wALAALAYAAL FIIRIYA DHANTAN KOBTAN KU QORAN OO AY KU DHANTEEYAN JABHADA ONLF. DHANTADIN WAXAY SHEEGAYSAA IN AY ONLF TIRTIRAYSO QABIILOOYINKA AAN AHEYN OGAADEENKA EE KU UUMMAN SOOMALI GALBEED.
DHANTADAN HOOS KU QEEXAN WAXAY TURJUMAD KA BIXINAYSAA NUXURKA SIYAASAD QABYAALADEED EE ONLF.
dHANTADU WAXAY LEEDAHAY:
jABHADU JAWAXO WEEYE
JEERAAR AMAADIN WEEYE
BERMILKA JOOGA WEEYE
JIDWAAQ JIIDHA WEEYE
SHEEKHAAL JAJABI WEEYE
SHARIIF KU JOOGSO WEEYE
MIDGAAN JUGEE WEEYE
GERI JUFEE WEEYE
IDOOR KU DUUL WEEYE.

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JR

Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 02:09 pm
TO: Kaynaan.

WARYAA ISKU DIRKA ISKA DAA. WAXAAD MEESHA LA IMANEYSO KAFIIRSO. JABHADA IYO SHACABKA BEEN HAKA SHEEGIN WASAQ KALAB AH AYAAD TAHAY. AFKII WAXAAD KU HADLEYSAA ZENAWI EE ORADOO HAKUWASO KALAB AMXAAR WAAXID. SHARAFTA OGADENKA MEEL HA OGA DHICIN. WAXAA XAQIIQ AH IN DARIS WANAAG NAGU YAQAANAA DHAMAAN DADKA AAD SOO TIRISEY. OGADEN WAXA WAX U DHIMAY OO DHAN WEY ISKA DHAGA TIRAYAAN SABABTUNA MA'AHA INAAN IDINKA CABDANEYNO EE WALAALTINIMO AYAAN IDIIN XISHMEYNEYNAA, LAKIIN HADDII AAD SIDA SIWADAAN IDINKA AYUUN BEY IDIIN DARANTAHAY. OGADEN WAA MIDANEYSAN YAHAY DAGAALKANA NINKII KA HARA HADHOOW WAA QASAB IN DHEEFTA LAGU XISAABTAMI DOONO. WAXAA SHARAF MUDAN IN DADKA AAD SOO TIRISAY AY DAGAALKA XAGA HORE UGA JIRAAN OO AYKULA QABIN MARIIDKA AAD FIDINEYSID.

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Karamardha

Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 02:11 pm
Nin-gabayaa ahaa oo la odhan jiray Camaje oo reer Dhurwaale ahaa oo ka yaabay niman ogaadeen ah oo
aad macangagiin ahaa ayaa odhaahdan yidhi:
ILAAHAYYOW MAXAA AMXAARO IYO OGAADEEN OLOG(DARIS)
IGA DHEGTAY.

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Koshin

Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 02:22 pm
TO: Indhocaro.

War saxiib dadkani xaqiiqda marabaan iney arkaan ee way uun soolaablaabanayaa. Carwakaasa su'aalaheygii haka jawaaban. Maxey uun magacan ugu soolaablaabanayaa.

Waxaan arkaa in aysan dooneynin wax aan magacan aheen oo kale laga hadlo. Dadka waa uu ka gudbaa marka waxla isdhaafsado ee madoonayaa in runta loo daadago.

War magac waad diidi kartaan waana ogalaan kartaan ee maxaa talo heysaan haga halganka.
Fadlan saxiib Indhocaro waxba waqtigaada ha isku daalinin ilaa ay ka soo jawaaban su'alahan.

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kaadheeri kaynaan

Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 02:24 pm
Ku: jr
waxaa tahay doofaarada doofaarka ugu xun. waxaa tahay nin aan caqli lahayn. Maxaad la hanaaqaysaa.Dhantada aan qoray waa mid ka turjumaysa wax ay ku hadaaqaan adiga iyo waxa kula mid ah. Baro marka hore qaab hanaaneedka layskugu jawaabo intaad la soo ordaysid cay. Anigu maàhi nin u soo dirsaday budhcada Malaza Zanawi ee waxaa runta ka sheegay waxay onlf ugu yeedho halgan suganeedka in ay u badaleen in ay ku caayaan shacbiga soomali-galbeed ee tigreegu dabargooaynayo.
Shacbiga Soomali Galbeed waxaaa ku habsatay laba balayyo gumaysiga tigree-ga iyo siyasad xumada ONLF.

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abdul

Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 11:41 pm
walaal dhamaantiin waad salaamantihiin.
salaan ka dib.
waxaan rabaa inaan markale aan halkan ka cadeeyo dadka uu mugdiga kaga jiro.
ogaadeeniya iyo ogaadeen.
1- ogaadeeniya waa magac dhul ama wadan,
magaca ogaadeeniya waxaa loo qaatey ahmiyadiisa juqraafiyedeed iyo kucaanimada dunida,waad la socotaan maabkasta oo dunida yaala waxaa ku qoren ogaden,waa magacuu aduunku u yaqaano dhulkaas .
2-ogaadeen waa qabiil dega wadanka ogaadeeniya ay xabashidu gumeeysato,
markaa walaal yaan la isku qasin mar dambe
markeeynu leenahey ogaadeeniya waxaa ka hadleynaa dhulka ee maha ogaadeen absame
waad mahadsantihiin

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SHAATICADDE

Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 03:07 am
salaamu calaykum,
dhalinyaro haddii aysan ONLF ahayn jabhad qabiili ah sidii ssdf iyo snm ooo kale, marka la soo hadal qaadaba qofkii ogaadeen ahi muusan xanaaqeen oo furka ma tuureen.qofkii gobolkaa ka yimi, da'doono ha jiro, qabiilkuu doono ha ka dhasho ee danaynaya mustaqbalka soomaaligalbeed waxan jeclaan lahaa in laysku dayo in la abuuro urur siyaasi ah oo aragti dheer oo mid qabyaaladeed aan lahayni ay ku jirto.waxaa wax laga xumaado ah in qabiilka ogaadeenka la yidhaahdo yar iyo wayni ay samaynayaan qaladkii ay sameeyeen ISAAQA,HAWIYAHA IYO MAJEERTEENKA,kolkii ay halagamdooda ku saleeyeen qabiil.waa waxa ilaa hadda soomaaliya xal loogu la' yahayay.Ogaadeenka waxaan kula talin lahaa 1-war qaladaadkii ay walaalihiina soomaaliyeed sameeyeen wax ka barta.2-isku daya ugu horayn inaad soomaalida gobolkaas ku nool midaysaan.
3- Iska ilooba magacan aad la cararaysaan ee Ogaadeeniya, waayo danta guud ee gobolku kuma jirto.
4- caadifadan aan meelna idin gaarsiinayn iska daaya.
5- isku dayana inaad miis xal ku raadisaan.waa wajib in gaalo ku haysataa lala dagalamo laakiin waxa jirta marar aanay haboonayn, sidamarkay aad kaaga xoog badan yihiin.
intase ogaadeen saa u fakirayo, soomaalidii kalee gobolka kula noolaydan ay kolka magaca ogaadeeniya maqlaanba ay boodayaan walee gobolkaasi meel gaadhi maayo.
salamu calaykum.

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Anonymous

Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 03:12 am
Meeshan maha in laysku caayo.Ujedadan dhan ee madashan aan ugu kulanay waxay tahay in afkaar lays waydaarsado. meesha matalo qabiil caye iyo shakhsi cay.


Dadka Soomali-galbeed ilahay ha mideeyo

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Anonymous

Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 03:15 am
Meeshan maha in laysku caayo.Ujedadan dhan ee madashan aan ugu kulanay waxay tahay in afkaar lays waydaarsado. meesha matalo qabiil caye iyo shakhsi cay.


Dadka Soomali-galbeed ilahay ha mideeyo

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MELESSENAWI

Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 03:22 am
ANAA OGAADEEN SAAN DOONA KA YEELA
ANAA ISAAQ GURYAHOODA WAX KU LAAYA
ANA RAXANWAYN GEELOODA SUBAX WALBA QAADA
ANAA MAJEERTEEN HOGAAMIYAYAASHOODU KU FAANAAN INAY SHAAH ILA CABEEN.
ANAA DHULBAHANTE KU RIYOODAA LA KULANKAYGA.
MIDGUIHU WAXBA IGUMA DIIDI KARAAN.
ABSAMAHA KALE WAY II JAAJUUSAAN.
WARSANGELIGU MAGACAYGUU KA NAXAA.
HABARGIDIRTU WAXAY IGA BARYAAN INAAN LA HADLO
ABGAALKU HABEEN WALBA HURDADAAN KAGA SASIYAA BAQDINTAY IGA QABAAN AAWADEED.
GUDUBIIRSIGU WA II RUKUUCAAN.
XAWAADLUHU LUAGAHAY II MAYDHAAN.
SOOMAALOO DHAN DHAMAANTEED
ANAA KALA YAACIYA OO HADANA ISUGU YEEDHA
KII AANAN ANIGU SHARFINA
SHARAFBA MA LEH.
WASLIGIINBA NETKA ISKA CAAYA
KA DHEX OOYA, MAGAC ISKU HAYSATA
MAGACAAD DOONTAANBA ISULA BAXA
ANUUNBAA WALIGAY IDIN HAYSAN
OO SAAN DOONO IDINKA YEELI.
WELIBA WEAXAAN IDILA DAMACSANAHAY BAYDIN OGEEN
SANADKA DANBE REERKII SOOMAALIYEED EEN TOBAN HABLOOD
OO SOOMAALIYEED
OO QALANJOOYIN AH IYO 100 000 OO DOLLAR AAN II KEENIN.
GOBOLKOODAAN UGU IMAN.
HABLUHU WAY KU LABANLAABMI OO 20 BAA LAGA SOO QAADI.
XOOLAHUNA WAY KU TOBAN JIBAARMI.
REERKII FOQORO AHOOW
ILAAH BAAD LEEDAHAY
KII AAN CASH HAYSANOOW
ANIGU CREDIT KAADHKAMA AQBALO
JEEGAGANA ISKABA DAA
ODAYGIINII BAAN AHEE SOOMALAAY
HA LA I CISEEYO
HADII KALE.......XAQIIQ IN BADAN BAYDUN SHALAAYI.
MUDANE MILES SANAAWI
TALIYAHA DHABTA AH EE DOWLADA ITOOBIYA
AHANA GUDOOMIYAHA URURKA WEYENEGA
AHNA TALIAYAH SARE EE QARANKA TIGREEGA
AHNA TALIYA KU SII MEEL GAADK AH EE AAN TOOSKA AHAYN EE SOOMALIDA KU NOOL SOOMAALIYA, OGADEN,SOAMLILAND,PUNTLAND.
AHNA NIN ••• DHEER OO MEESHUU DOONA GASHA.


WAAD EDEB DARAN TIHIIN.
WIXII TIGRE AHOOW NABADGELYO.
SOOMAALAAYNA ISA SII HAYSTA INTAAN MAQNAHAY HADHOOW KARBASHKII BAAN IDIINLA IMANE.

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Koshin

Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 03:30 am
TO: JR

Please reframe your self for using vurger language.

We are trying to have a meaningful exchanges here. If you see something you don't like either respond politely or keep it out.

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Anonymous

Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 10:45 am
SHATECADDE TALADAADA WAAD KU MAHADSANTAHAY.
RUNTII MAHA QABILKA OGAADEEN OO DHAN KUWA CIDDA KU DHAGAN WAXAA ARRINTA WATAA WAA HOGAANKA ONLF
OO MAGAC-KUDHANASHAHAASI AY KA TAHAY DHOHANAAN SIYAASADEED(POLITICAL NAIVITY).
RUNTII ONLF WAX-YEELO MOOYEY WAX-TAR AY KA HELAYAAN MAGACAN OGADEN MAJIRTO.
HALGAN KASTOO XORNIMA-DOON AH OO AY DADKOOGU KU MIDAYSNAYN BADIGOOBKA XORNIMO MA-GULAYSTO HADUU GULAYSTO MA-HANAQAADO OO MA-NOQDO XORNIMO LOOGU NAGAADO. nINKA KOSHIN LA DHAHOO EE HALKAN ARAAIDISA KA DHIIBTAA MAR UU FIKRADAYDA DHALIILAYEY WUXUU YIDHI-ANNAGU WAXBAAN SAMAYSANAYE
WUXUU U JEEDAY ONLF EE IDINKU OO U JEEDAY DAD SOOOMALI-GALBEED EE AAN KU ABTIRSAN OGAADEENKA(NON-OGADENS IN Western-somalia) maad samaysataan
jabhad.
Kooshin waxaan xasuusinlahaa laba Jabhadood oo ka samaysma Somali-Galbeed oo midi tahay ogaadeen tan kalena tahay dadka Soomaaliyeed ee aan Ogaadeenka aheyn waxay dhalindoontaa xornimo dhics ah oo Soomali-galbeed aysan ku nagaanin xasilooni iyo Xornimo. Kooshinow fiiri maanta waxa ka socda Angola. Dalka Angola intii u xornimada qaatay waxaa laga joogaa 23 sanno waana dal qaani balse xornimadii ka bacdi ma-mahadin madaxbanaanidiisi sababtuna waxay tahay labada jabhadood ee kala siyasadda ahaa oo dalka ka halgamayey waqtigii xornimadoonka oo kala ah UNITA IYO MPLA.Eritrea waxay maanta qarka u saaran-tahay in uu dagaal sokeeyo ka curto oo ay noqoto Leenaantii labaaad.
Fikradayda aan soo gunaanade shacbiga Soomali-galbeed iskuma-haystaan fikrada ideology mashkalada jirtaa waxay tahay oo kali ah in ONLF ka tanaasusho magaca Ogaden oo la xulo magac Soomaliyeed oo ay iska dhex-arkaan shacbiga dagan Soomali-galbeed.
Hanaan -asluubeeedka kobtantada oo afkaaraha isku-weydaarsanayno waxaan labadeenu ka wadaagnaa isu-araa.

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Koshin

Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 02:22 pm
TO: MR. Anonymous

I have been waiting for your responses for a long time. It is a welcome gusture that you have atleast attempted to give me your responses.

All said , I must say you have no answeres for my question that is not your fault because those of you who object our name have not contribute to any of our struggle in which is at his highes point. Though, I must admit our feelings to this evil barbaric lice dripping Tigrays are mutual but your struggle hasn't materialize beyond mouthpeice.

The irony is you have given me an example of Angola to find an exuce to silence your guilty feelings. It is amazing how many times that I have personaly explained that the Ogaden clan are not blinded to your feelings, we understand you are offended by this and you have everyright to be since what is looks like to you is one clan dominance. I am not too excited about that, but please keep in mind we are in era of world politics and we have to use it to our advantage based on international territies, and human rights abuses records. We want all the world to know what is happening in the Ogaden region of Ethopia other that Western Somali that doesn't exist and nobody is familier with. We want them to distinguash Somali from Ogadenia.

Please be advised that doesn't mean that we hate the Somali name. I would like to remind you that one of the founding fathers of this organization was a JIDWAAQ ABSAME.

Let me give you an example of unity regardless of name. I would like you to take a look at the 'RRA'
it is stands for Rahawen Resistance Army! Do you know how may tribes are compained under the DIGIL/MIRFLE. There are over 30clans that do not share a blood line at all. Do you know how many of these are Rahawen? Only 9. Why woudn't the rest of other clans complain about this name? Becasue the RRA name was the most reconizable among others line SDM and ext and they don't care as long as they can reach their goals of kicking out their enemy. I don't know what clan you are but let me jokinly take it your are JIDWAAQ, I know for sure no other clan would give us that much of a hard time.(KAFTAN KA RAALINOQO)

We have the same father "ABSAME"
If you are Sheeqaale they are our respected elders "OWLIYO"
If you are Issaq they are our mothers and inlaws we respect them.
If you are CIISE you are simple of our unity.

You get my point.


I for one support the continuation of the OGADENIA name until we get our freedom, after that we can call it WESTERN SOMALI REPUBLIC. I hope you like it.

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indhacaro

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 03:55 pm
To:anonymous
saaxiib waan kusalaamay marka hore.
walaal inbadan ayaan kadoodnay magacan "ogaden" ee hada waxa aad fiirisaa articleka cusub een soo dhajiyay ee aan kumagacaabay Baro taariikhda wandankaaga hooyo "ogaden". kadib iga soo sii waxa aragitidaad ah.
nabaday

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Wiil-waal

Monday, January 15, 2001 - 04:52 pm
Koshin iyo indhacaro, Marka hore Salaanta Islaamka
iga guddooma "Asalaamu-calaykum" Marka xigta ummad
kastaaba ayadaa xor u ah halgankeeda cidnana ma
qasbi karto sidaa awgeed wax jujuub ah meesha ma yaalo iyo magaca la siku qasbo balse waxa fiicnaan lahayd inaad dib iskugu noqotaan oo aad is weydiisaan maxa ino dan ah, maxay ummaadu rabta
oo ay raali ka tahay, marka arinta la ogaado ka dib ayaa magaacdan la siku haysto lakala ogaan kara midka ay ummaddaas gacanta gumaysyah ku jira
ay rabto inay ku halgami karaan iyaga oo midaysan.
Anigu waxaan ku dhashay kuna barbaaray magaalada
jigjiga, waxaanan ogahay sida aan wadkayga u hubo
dadweynaha Gobalak jigjiga iyo waxii ka sii galbeedeeya sida dirri-dhaba iyo nawaaxigeeda dadka ku nool inayna raali ka ahayn magacan "Ogadenia" balse ay Aaminsayihiin magaca
S/galbeed oo ah magac qabiil kasta oo Somali ah iska dhex helayo sida darteed haddii aad daacad ka
tihiin halgankiinna la tashada ummadda idinkula nool dhulka, haddii aad rabtaan inta Ogaadeenku dago oo ah dhagaxbuur iyo inta ka shishaysa ah,
magaca Ogadenia ku dagaalama oo xoraysta.

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Anonymous

Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 04:35 am
This is the exact feeling of the Western-Somali
people what Mr.Wiil-Waal has depicted. Mr. Koshin
and his associates want the people of Western-Somalis to committe identity suicide. We profoundly beleive that the name Western-Somali
represents the existance of our nation. As we harshly opposed the abyssinian colonialism we also oppose the clanic hegemony that the ONLf goup advocate.
Mr. Koshin, you considered immaterial the example that I have cited in my last letter concerning Angola. Please note the Angola example would be what could happen in Western_somalia if the Western-Somali do not form a United Front.

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KAADHEERI KAYNAAN

Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 04:44 am
NIN KAMAAN-DHEERI LA ODHAN JIRAY ALLAHA HA U NAXARIISTE AYAA ISAGOO KA HADLAYA DARIS-XUMADA OGAADEENKA YIDHI HADALKAN:
LABAA U AYAANDARAN
JIDWAAQ IYO JANATA
FARDOWSA WAAYO
JIDWAAQNA OGAADEEN AYAA
LA DARIS AH JANATA FARDOWSANA
JAHANABA

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ARAWEELO

Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 05:20 am
Ninka la yiraahdo koshin ma`garan nuxurka waxa dhiiga loo qubo xornimada. Dheecanka iyo dheegaba wAXAA xornimada loogu daadiyaa in daku yeesho jirtaan taasoo magacu asaasi ka yahaye. Cariga Soomali-galbeed hadii lagu magacaabo Ethiopia ama
Ogaadeenia anaga waa isku-kaao mid sabatoo ah maha shacbiga dhulka degaa magacyo ay rabaan maha.

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Anonymous

Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 05:33 am
AAD IYO AAD AYAAN UGA XUMAHAY IN AY WALI SII-SOCOTO QABIIL CAYGU.KHAADHEERI WAXAAN MAR LABAAD KAA CODSANAYAA IN AAD QABIIL-CAYGA AAAD ISKA DHAFTID OO HADAAD HAYSID HADALO WAX-KU-OOL AH AAD KU BIIRSATID DOODAN SOCOTA. MADASHAN LOOGAMA BAAHNA CAYTAN WAAYO WAXAA LAGA DOODADA ARRIN MUHIM AH OO AAD U KHUSAYSA AYAHA SHCBI-WEYNAHA SOOMAALIYEEED.
INDHOCARO, EWAXAA KU WAYDIINAYAA ARTICLE-KA AAD SHEEGAYSO XAGEE BAAD KU QORTAY.FADLAN II SHEEG MEESHAAD KU QORTAY.

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indhacaro

Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 05:56 am
To: anonymous and his fellows bro/sis
walaalayaal horta waxaa wanaagsan in laga doodo wax mac quul gal ah. horta magaca aad kudoodayso waa in uu leeyahay taariikh, macno, walibana aduunka intiisa kahaysto aqoonsi(recognition). walaal maxaa dhacay 1980's. markii somaliya ay qabtay wadanka ogaden iyaga oo taageero siin ahay walaalahooda ogadenia. soo kii markii la ogaday in lagu dagaalamayo magaca somalinida layidhi ma aha oo somaliya waxa ay ku xadgudubtay shuruudi ahaa in ayna dawladna dawlad ku xadgubin. eventhough ay somaliya kudoodaysay waxa aan raadinaynaa dhulsomaalyee iyo dad somaliyeed oo naga maqan hadan UN waxa ay u aragtay wadaankaasu in uusan ahayn wadan somaaliyeed oo uu yahay wadan magac leh taariikdhna leh marka ay somaliya xad gudub wado. kadib markii ay dadkii wax garadka ahaa ee ogaden ogadeen arintaas wax ay isku dayeen in ay kadhaadhicyaan aduunwaynaha in uuusan somaliya shaqo kulahayn wadankaas halganka kasocda, kadib waa somaaliya dhalinyaradii ogadeenka iyo odaaysheediiba xidh xidhay. taasna ninkasta oo taariikhda wadankaas haya ayaa og. hadii rabtaana waxa aad dib oogu noqotaan buugagii wakhtigaas laqoray oo ay qoreen qorayaal aan somali ahayn. dhalinyaro badan oo ogaden ah ayaa wadanka somaliya ka mamnuuc ahayd because waxay kudiideen in ay somaliya dafirto jiritaanka wadanka ama magaca ogadeenia. kaas oo la qarni eg magaca somaliyeed laftiisa.
To: wiil waal
walaal horta ogaden nina ma qasbayo mana juujuubayo ninkii lahalgamana waa walaalkiis magaca uu doontaba hawatee, haduudoono muu wato somali-south, somalin-land, oromia, afar, somali-western. magac nadhibaya majiro walaal anaga waa hadii aan nahay umada wadan reer ogaadenia.
midakale walaal horta dadka ogadenia horta u qaadan in uu dago oo kali ah dhawrka magaalo ee kashisheeya jigjiga. ogadeen horta waa dhul balaadhan Nazret magaalada ladhaho ee addis ababa waxa yarta u jirta waxa aad kaheleeysaa caanaha geela reer ogadenia. hadii aad moodi in aan kuu faanayo waydii dadka addis ababa yaqaana ama Nazret lafteed. aniga ha ii qaadan in aan ahay caadhifi laakiin waxa aan kusheegayaa waxa xaqiiqda ah.
mase lasocotaa magacanu in uu baxay 1963 oo u bixiyay Makhtal Dahir alaha oo naxariirstee.
marka walaal magac baxay 37 sono kahor sidee loogu badali magac baxay 16th century.
walaal waad fiirin kartaa articleka aan soo dhajiyay ee aan kumagacaabay Baro taariikhda wadankaag. then waxa aad ogaan kartaa in uu magacanu yahay the only name oo loo aqoonsanyahay wadankaas in uu Yahay Ogaden.
maad maqashid somalin-kenya, somali-Djabouti etc aniga maxaa dabada iigu ladhay somaliya.
nabaday

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dhantoole

Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 11:02 am
horta ruuxii wax ah Ogaadenia ha ka doodo hadii uu leeyahay magacan ayaan saluugsanahay, haba saluugee muxuu yahay isagu ama uu wadaa oo dhaama sxbyaal dhulka reer Ogaadenia ruuxii udhimanaya ayaa iska leh dheeftiisa iyo magiciisabana leh .

mida kale ninkan isqarinaya hadii aan u jawaabo sxb horta marka aad rabto in aad rag kale la dooto adoo wuxuun ah la dood ileen hada waxaad tahayba garanmaynee. midakale magaca ka baxoo maxaad kaloo aqli ah oo aad haysaa?

war ileen balaayo waa tii kaa qoslisa dad aan dagaal iyo nabadtoona cilaamin karin oo maalin walba cilaaq la taagan ileen waa balaayo kaa qoslisa.

sheeko, GABLAN,TALA ADUUNAY MAXAY GALABA CAYN JOOGAT ma maanta ayaa Ogadenia laysku haystaa

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dhantoole

Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 11:03 am
horta ruuxii wax ah Ogaadenia ha ka doodo hadii uu leeyahay magacan ayaan saluugsanahay, haba saluugee muxuu yahay isagu ama uu wadaa oo dhaama sxbyaal dhulka reer Ogaadenia ruuxii udhimanaya ayaa iska leh dheeftiisa iyo magiciisabana leh .

mida kale ninkan isqarinaya hadii aan u jawaabo sxb horta marka aad rabto in aad rag kale la dooto adoo wuxuun ah la dood ileen hada waxaad tahayba garanmaynee. midakale magaca ka baxoo maxaad kaloo aqli ah oo aad haysaa?

war ileen balaayo waa tii kaa qoslisa dad aan dagaal iyo nabadtoona cilaamin karin oo maalin walba cilaaq la taagan ileen waa balaayo kaa qoslisa.

sheeko, GABLAN,TALA ADUUNAY MAXAY GALABA CAYN JOOGATAY ma maanta ayaa Ogadenia laysku haystaa

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Yaabane

Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 12:27 am
Dhammaan dadka halkan soo booqdey

Salaanta Islaamka ka dib

Waxaa xaqiiqo ah in degaankaasi dhibaateysanyahay.

Sidaa darteed, maadaama uu muddo soo dhibaataysnaa, waxaa lagaran karaa in wax weyne ka khaldanyihiin qaabka halganka loo waday.

Looma baahna in dadka la iska laayo. Arrinta kale anigu dhawr goor oo hore ayaan arrintan ka hadlay.

Haddana aan ku celiyo, hubaal waxaan ahay Ogaadeen. Waxaan aad u kala aqaannaa degaankaas degmo-degmo iyo waliba tuulo tuulo.

Waxaan marnaba dhici karin ruux leh xaq darro ayaan la dagaalami inuu isna horseedo ama ku dedaalo sidii uu mid kale u abuuri lahaa.

Gobolkan ma aha meel Ogaadeen kaligii deggan yahay loomana dooran inuu kaligii wax ka yiraahdo. Anigu waxaan ku leeyahay xubnaha Ogaadeenka ah ee dadka aflagaadeeya, hubsada dhibaatada aad ummadda u gaysanaysaan kana fiirsada. Waxaa aad inoo dhaama dadyawga kale, saa iyagu dhibba kuma hayaan gobolka. Haddii uusan ruuxu wax tarayn inuu dhibaatada daayo ayaa ka roon inuu isagu mid abuuro.

Sidaa darteed, aniga oo xiisaynaya inay noqoto markii iigu dambaysay ee aan halkan wax ku soo qoro ama soo jawaaba ama ha soo jawaabinaee, ayaan idinku waanin hubsada ereyada iyo ficillada aad leedihiin.

Dadka kale, waxaan idinka codsan skakhsiyaal aan wax garad ahayn dartood ha u colaadinina Ogaadeen. Ogaadana in aan sina loo kala maarmin dhib iyo dheefba.

Waad salaamanyihiin.

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Cabdirazaq

Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 04:11 am
Cidii istiraahdo nidaamku meeshan kama qeybgalo,dabaal dheh.

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Abdirazaq

Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 04:17 am
Sidow gobolku ku xuroobi karaa!?waa arin u yaal dadka gobolka degen.

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Anonymous

Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 11:54 am
INDACAROW WAXAAN KULA SOCODSIINAYAA QODOBADAN ANNO KA JAWAABAYA QORAALKAAGII:
1.sOOMAALIYA MA-QABSAN DHULKA SOOMALI-GALBEED 1980AAD. RUNTII HADAAN GARANWAYDAY DAGAALKII 1977/78 EE SOOMALI-GALBEED KUMABA BANAANA IN AAD CID KALA DOODI KARTID ARRIMAHA SOOMALI-GALBEED,
2.MARKAAN KU DOODAYO DHULKA SOOMALI-GALBEED EE XABASHIDU GUMAYSATO HALA-SIIYO MAGAC-SOOMALIYEED MAHA MICNAHEEGU SOOMALIYA HALOOGU DARO. SOOMAALIYA
QARANKEEDII MAANTA WUXUU KU SUGAN-YAHAY WAAD OGSOONTAHAY. BULSHADA CAALMKA MAANTA WAX TUHIN AHI KAGAMA JIRTO IN SOOMALIYA AY DOONAYSO IN AY QABSATO SOOMALI-GALBEED WAAYO QARANKII SOOMALIYEED JIRITAANKISII AYAA KHATAR KU SUGAN.
sOOMALI-GALBEED WAXAY U DAGALAMAYSAA AYA-KATALINTEEDA MANAHA ARRIN HORJOOGSANAYSA HADII LOO BIXIYO CARIGA SOOMALI-GALBEED
INDACAROW LA SOCO DAGAALKII LAAGU XOREEYEY SOOMAALI-GALBEED MA-DHICIN 1980AAD. DAGAALKAASI WUXU DHACAY bISHII jUNE1977-BISHII MARCH 1978.

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Indhacaro

Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 03:28 pm
TO: anonymous
walaal horta waan kusalaamay marka hore.
walaal horta waxa aad u egtahay nin xanaaqsan laakiin wax kaa xanaajiyay garan maayo."laakiin waxa aan filayaa sidii aad uraadinaysay wax wax kaqoray somali galbeed, si aad nooguladoodid ayaad wayday xaataa wax yaqaana magacaba" just joking. hadii aan ku udhi magacaasu taariikh maleh"somali_galbeed". oo caalamka aqoonsi kama haysto mawax baan dhimay. midakale horta runta ayaan kuusheegi meelkasta tag walaal hadii aad soo hesho any book oo kahadlay somali-galbeed not jabhadii laakiin dhul ladhaho somali galbeed, oo laga aqoonsanyahay aduunka ninkastaba ha qooree wax baan kaaga ogalahay doodaa.
mida kale horta walaal si khalad ayaad u fahantahay inkasta oo aan anigu khaladka lahaa waayo sida aan wax u qoray. taas raali ka ahaw runtii marka aan wax qoro masameeyo proofreading taas darteed ayaa keentay in aan si sax loo famin waxii aan qoray ujeedadiisii. Ruux kasta oo Ogadenia u dhashay waa lasocdaa in uu bilawday dagaalkaasu 1964, hadan uu si xoogleh u bilaawday 1977, marka taasu walaal makeenayso in aana aqoonin taariikhda wadankayga, mana filaayo in ay iga difaacayso in aan kuladoodo.
1980's markii arintii khadhaa dhaatay ee somaliya dhulkeedii ay qabsaty Ethiopia oo taageero siinayso Cuba and Rushia yaa waxaa soo dhex galay caalamka intiisii kale markaas ayaa la arkay in ay somaliya kudagaalami karin wadanka Ogaden iyada oo sheeganaysa wadankaa, marka waxa aan kawaday markii ay aduunwaynihii ay dhaheen somaliya wadankaas kuma dagaalami karto waayo malaha ayaa waxa ay dadkii wax garadka ahaa ee ogadenia yidhi somaliya farha anagala baxdo oo halganka ogaden halagu magacaabo. markaas Dawladii somalaiya waxa ay soosaartay in ruuxii Ogaden ah ee kudooda magacaas uu xabis yahay, saas darteed dhalin yaro udhatalay wadanka ogaden ay xadhig ka ahayeen somaliya.
hadii aan wax yar kaaga taabto wakhtigaas waxgarad Ogaden raali waligii kama ahayn in ay somaliya maamulka shaqo kuyeleeto markii ay somaliya wax qabatay wadanka Ogaden. waana kii la iskaga horyimid somaliya oo dadkii reer ogadenia diiday maamuulkii somaliya. waxaana lagu xidh xidhay dad badan oo reer Ogadenia ah. uu kamid ahaa Maxamuud Haybe, Cali shoocaac etc wakhtiagaasna waxa uu ahaa markii lalahaa waxbaa laxoreeryay Ogaden 1979-1978. Marka walaal anagu waxa aan waligano kudoodeeynay in uu ogaden yahay dad kabaxsan Ethiopia iyo somaliya labadaba.
Ogaden oo laleeyahay waa xor ayeey waxgaradkanagii ku xidh xidhnaayeen somaliya xabisyadeeda sababtoo ah waxa ay diidanaayee in Ogadenia lagu hoos baabiiyo Dawlad uu lafac, ladad, ladhul iyo taariikhba laegyahay.
Waxaa lawada ogsoonyahay hadii halgankaas lugu magacaabi lahaa Ogaden in ay maanta Ogadenia xor ahaan lahayd.
Adigu halka su'aal ee aan kuwaydiinhayo waxa ay tahay somali-galbeed xageey kasoojeedaa, aduunkase aqoonsi makahaystaa. balwax waxkaqoray hadii aad hayso aan isla aragnee lakaalay hadal aad adigu meelaha katiri maalin walba hala imaanin, ee wax daliil ah lakaalay.
anigu waxa aan kali ah oo kuleeyahay tag any search engeen on the internet and type the word Ogaden then see howmany lists it will give you. then you will know Ogaden is a country which is locate in east Africa.
karaali noqo qoraalka faraha badan waan ogahay in dadku aan jeclayn qoraalka faraha badan laakiin waxa aan isku dayay in aan ku qanciyo ee.

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DHANTOOLE

Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 11:39 pm
dhamaan waad salaamantihiin.

waxaan anigu aad oo la yaabanahay dadka la doodaya ruux aan waxba ahayn, sxb marka hore bal waxaad tahay sheeg?

sideedaba markii uu ruuxu rabo in uu qadiyad umadi leedahay ka doodo waa in uu aqoon u leeyahay umadaas iyo tariikhdooda, isaguna waa in uu sheegaa, wuxuu yahay iyo mesha uu ka yimid.

hadii kale maba istaahilo in lala hadlo waayo kaas oo kale waan naqanaa waxuu rabaa in uu muran wax ku barto, waana kan isqaranaya ee labaxay Anonymous, umada reer Ogaadeniyaa, kaas oo kale hala hadlina ilaa uu isu kiin sheego.

waxuu rabaa in uu idinka aflaxo isgoo murmaya

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DHANTOOLE

Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 11:44 pm
ANIGA iyo markale

waxaan ilaawey mid aan ninkaas isaga ah aan kula yaabay, waryaah ma waxaad garan weydey wax kale oo aad la soo shirtagto, marka aad leedahay dagaalku wuxuu dhacay 1977-19979 dadka iska daayo xataa xawayaanka ayaaba og midaas ninkii yidhi, marka waxaa wax lagu doodo ma ahee, mesha wax quman keen ama ka joog yaadan faraha kaga gubanine.......

MULACA AYAA JIIFKA KU ARKA IN AAD RABTO MURAN BALAA MACNA AH.

GIX. GIX, GIX,GIX. GIX, GIX,GIX. GIX, GIX,GIX. GIX, GIX, ADUUN BAAN KULA YAABANAHAY.

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ARAWEELO

Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 10:22 am
Mr.anonymoous qoraalkiisa ku maqorin dagaalka Soomali-Galbeed wuxuu dhacay 1977-1979 balse wuxuu qoraalkiisa ku yidhi dagaalku weynaa ee Soomali-Galbeed ama sida aad adigu u taqaano Ogadeena wuxuu dhacay 1977/78.
Dhantoole qoraalkaaga waxaa ka muuqata nin jaahil ah in aad tahay.
Fadlan, waxaa kugula talin lahaa in aad doodan socota adan ka-qaab-galin waayo jaahilinta adoo-kala ah doodan meeli ugama furna.

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DANOOD again

Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 05:05 pm
WAR COLA WAX LAQARSADA MA AHA CIMRAAN BAA IDHACAYNA HADAL MA AHA.WARXABASHIDA GARANAY BARTAY NAGA COLAADINA FAHANAY EE BALKUWAN INTAAN ANAGU EEDAYN LAHAYN EEDA NALA DABA TAAGAN DAYA.
SOOMAALI NINA WAX UMA QABNO WADANKANA ANAGU WAXAAN U ARAGNAA IN MAGACA INTERNATIONAL KA AH AAN KUBAADI GOOBNO EE AL MAXAAFIL ALDAWLIYA LOOGA YAQAAN ILEEN BAADI WALBA SUMADEEDAA LAGU RAADSHAAYE.
UMANA DIIDANI IN UU ISAGU SIDUU DOORBIDO WAX KUDOONO.WAX UU DOONA DAAYE ANIGII BUU DAN IGA DHIGTAY.WAR ISHAAD ANIGA IGU DHAWRI MAAD GAALKA KU FIIRISID.WAR ANIGU REERAHA SOOMAALIYEED CAAYI MAAYO SABAB TOO AH CID WALBA WAXAAN FILAAYAA IN AY WAX GARRAD LEEDAHAY.
LAAKIIN FIGRADA MAGAC LADAGAALANKA AHI IMA CAJABININ WAr HADII OGAADEEN OODHAN LAWAAYO MAGACA WAX KUUQABAN EE KHARIIDADA CAALAMKA KUYAALA WAX KUDOONO
WAXBA KAMA QABO IN MARKAAN XORNIMADFA HELO AAN QUDHAC IYO QANSAX IYO DHUUNDHAS MID KOOD UBIXINO
HADAAN TUUSAALE YAR KUSIIYO SAAD WAX GARATID
LOORAN KABIILA MARKUU HALGANKA WADAY ZAIR AYUU WATAY MARKUU SAA UTAGAY KINSHAASA AYUU BADALAY
WAR WAXA LOOYAQAAN WADANKA AAN WAX KURAADINO SHAYDAAN ba HA BIXIYEE AYAADAA HADA SUUQ GASHAYE <OGADEN>AANA QAADANO OON DALKA DHICINO.
WAXAAN ADKAYNAYAA IN AAN AN XATAA KA WAX IIQABA AANA WAX UQABIN.OGAADEENKANA WAXAAN KULA TALIN LAHAA DULQAAD YEESHA NIN HADALWALBA KA JAWWANAYNA DHIMAY AXANKISAN LACUN
SOOMAALIDA OGADEN HA ISRAACDO

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DHANTOOLE

Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 10:19 pm
ARAWEELO walaal horta waan ku salaamay.
salaan kadib horta walaal meel cidla ah ayaad igala qaaday, waxaadna moodaa in ay ficilo ku qaaday, balse waxaan kuu sheegayaa, in aad igu qaldantay waayo waxaad igu xustay in aan ahay nin jaahil ah, balse aan ku waydiiyee, waxa uu Jaahilyahey ma iiga jawaabi kartaa adoonba meel kale wax udoonin? midakale walaal aniga aqoon iima lihid imana taqaanid marka waxaan ku leeyahay waad dag dagtaye is daji meshan caytan ma yaalo iyo dagaaltoona dood baa taala.

walaal ha noqonin midii layidhi;;; doqoni meel lagu kaftamay meel lagu kala tagay bay modaa,

waxaan kaa codsanayaa in aad su,aashaas aan ku waydiiyey aad ka jawaabto.

wa bilaahi towfiiq.

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ARAWEELO

Friday, January 19, 2001 - 03:56 am
Dhantoole, waad salamantahay. Waxaa jaahlinma ah
in aad goobtan ka soo jeedisid micnaha jaahilnimada.Waxaan jaahilnimadaaada ku gartay
doodi socotay ee ku saabsanayd dagaalkii Soomaali-
Galbeed waqtigu dhacay laga hadlayey intaan soo dhex-gashay ayaad soo bandhigtay qoraal-jahilnima ah.Annigu waxaad tahay ayaan kugu sheegay oo aniga ila tahay.Jaahilnimadu way farabadan-tahay.Nin kastoo wuxuuna waxba ka garanayn mowduuc laga-hadlayo faraha la soo galo dhan mowducaa jahil ayuu ka yahay. Hadaba waxaan adiga ku arkaa in aad aqoon-kugu-filan adan u lahay siyaasada Geeska-Africa gaar ahaan tan-Soomali-Galbeed ama sidaad adigu ka heshid Ogaden.

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DHANTOOLE

Friday, January 19, 2001 - 05:01 am
Araweelo horta waan ku salaamay. salaan kadib maadan ka jawaabin su,aashaydii, waliba waxaad sii dabaalatay badkale oo aadan ka baxaynin.

balse horta intaad nacnacda iska dhaafto ka jawaab su,aasha hadii aadan ka jawaabi karin iska aamo, afkaaga oo aan eed kaa reebin alla iga goo baa la dhahaa, balse waxaan aaminsanahay in Geeska Afrika iyo Ogaadeniyaba kaaga aqoon badanahay, waxaan ka xumahay in uusan wakhtigu hada ii samaxaynin in aan waxyaabo muhiim ah oo ku saabsan Tariikhda Ogaadeniya in aan hada halkan ku qoro waayo waxaa layga xidhiyaa Libareeiga:: lakiin su,aashaasi waa mid aadan wali furin??? waxaan ka yaabi adoon aniga i aqoonin intaad afka gabadhyahay illa laacdo, in aad faraha igaga gubato

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Koshin

Friday, January 19, 2001 - 11:49 am
Salaan Dhamaantiin.

Fadlan aan isku dayno inaan ka gudubno doda magacan.
Waxaad noo soo bandhigtaan arrimaha kale ee muhiimka ah eenu isku afgarani karno.

Nabad gelyo

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ARAWEELO

Friday, January 19, 2001 - 11:51 am
Dhantoole, calaamadaha jaahiliinta loogu garto waxaa ka mid ah aqoon aysan lahayn ayey ku faa`naan, waxyna iska-dhigaan aqoonyahan.Fiiri waxaad noo-sheegta in libaray lagaa xidhayo.Ujeedada aad igu sheegaysaa in libarary lagaa xidhayo waxay tahay inadd ii muujisid in aad tahay nin aan jaahil aheyn. Runtii qofka aqoonyahanku isma sheeg-sheego mana faano.
Hadaad wax ka taqqnid siyasadda Geeska-Afrika suàalahan KA JAWAAB.
Dagaalkii Soomali-Galbeed sababah ku kaliifay dowlada ruushk in ay la safato dowlada itoobiy maxay ahayeen?
Dowlada markaynku maxay wax tageera ah u siin-wayday Soomaliya dagaalikaa Soomali-Galbeed iyadoo Soomaliya ka caydhisay Ruushka dalkeeda?
Maxay soomaliya la burburtay iyadoo dadkeedi isku-af, dhaqan, diin,caado yihiin oo Itoobiya oo kala dhqan ah af ah diin ah ay u burburi-waayday?
Suaalha jawaabtooda ayaan ku firin doona heerka aqoontada Geeska-AFRIKA ay le`egtahay.Waxaa iyaguna ogaan doona aqoontada akhristayaasha.
Adiga laftaadu waad i waydiin kartaa suàalo la xiriira Geesaka-Afrika si aad u ogaatid aqoontayda
la xiriirta Geeska.

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Koshin

Friday, January 19, 2001 - 05:29 pm
TO: Araweelo iyo Dhantoole

Fadlan kala xishooda. Saxiib Dhantoole gabadha walaashaa ah ka xishoo. Adigana Araweeloy wiilkan walaalkaa ah sidoo kale xishmad sii.

Waxaa laga yaabaa haddii aad si fiican isku wareysataan inaad sidaa iskala soo dhowaanilaheedeen.

Dhibmalaha waxaad ka doodeysaan oo insha'allah mar ay ahaataba waa la is afgraninidoona.

Sidaa iyo nabadgelo

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maxamed

Friday, January 19, 2001 - 05:48 pm
LOL: ARAWELO+DHANTOOLE


WAAN IDIN SALAAMAY,TAKALE WAA LAGA FIICAN YAHAY
INEY DOODIINU SIDAN KU SII SOCOTO
DHAANTOOLE GABADHA WAXEY RABTO HADHAHDEE FARAHA
KA QAAD, ARAWELO JAAHIL QOFKII LADOODA AYAA KASII JAAHILSAN!!!
WAXAAN WADANAHAY JUHALO WAAYO
(MARWALBA OOD WAX OGAATO WAXAAD SIIOGAANEYSAA
JAAHILNIMADAADU GAARSIISAN TAHAY)

QOFWALBA OO ISU HEYSTO INUUSAN JAAHIL AHAYN
WAA JAAHILKA DHABTA AH.


WAXAAN IDIIN RAJEEYNAYAA NABAD

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Ahmadey

Friday, January 19, 2001 - 06:08 pm
Salaan Dhamaantiin:

Salaan ka dib, walaalayaal waa markii iigu horeysay ee aan Forum noocan oo kale ah wax ku soo qoro.

Dooda qodobkan oo ku bilaabtey sidaan flayo "Magaca Ogaadeeniya laguma xorayn karo
Soomaali-Galbeed"

Waxaan leeyahay qofkii bilaabay, walaal waxaa dad mideeya MABDA ee magac wax ma mideeyo, hadii magac wax mideynayo waxuu mideynlahaa Soomalida Jabhadahoodu 30ka kor u dhaafeen ee wadata magac Soomaali.

ONLF in aysan qabiil ka turjumaynin waxaa cadeynaya qaabka ay u daagalameyso oo ah in aysan Soomali godob ka gelin xataa hadii iyaga lagu xad gudbo sida qisadii uu ii CIGAAL sameeye ee u u dhiibay Itoobiya Niman dhalinyaro ah oo xubno ka ahaa ONLF.

Hadii aad ku doodayeso dadka hala mideeyo, waxaan ku leenahay MIDNIMADU WAA WAXA LOO DAGAALAMYO WAAYO MIDNIMO LA'AANTA WAXAA KEENAY GUMEYSIGA OO SIYAASADIISU TAHAY QAYBI OO XUKUN.

Qodobkan uma baahna dood dheer, waayo qofka magaca ka soo horjeeda ee anaan lahayn ama ka mid ahayn urur u dagaalamaya xaqa umada soomaaliyeed ee la gumeysto waa waqti lumis.

Salaams
Ahmadey

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Anonymous

Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 08:33 am
WAXAA ILA QUMAN IN AQOON-ISWAYDAARSIGAN HANAAN-SOCDKIISA AAN LA HAGARDAAMAYN.WAXAY ILA TAHAY IN
DOODAN AAN KU WADNO IS-XAQ-DHOWR IYO ISIXTIRAAM.
INTA-GUMAYSIGA TIGREE-GU DALKEENA SOOMALI-GALBEED
UU GUMAYSTO DHAMAANTEEN JAHILNIMO, CUDUR IYO GAAJO
AYAAN U NAHAY BARTILMAAMEED. WAXAY ILA TAHAY AAN KA HADALNO MIDEYNTA DADKEENA INTAAN MADASHAN-WEBSITE-KAN ISKU DHALECAYNAYNO.

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DHANTOOLE

Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 07:19 am
Walaal ARAWEELO waan ku salaamay horta.
salaan kadib walaal horta su,aashaydii adoon ka jawaabin ayaad su,aal kale keentay, balse maxuma in ay dadku wax iswaydiyaan kalana fa,iidaystaan, waxaanse ka sii jeclaan lahaa adoo midayda marka hore ka jawaaba, lakiin madaama aad tahay gabadh Soomaaliyeed in aan ilaa heerkaas isjiid jiidano ma fiicna,balse walaal aan ka jawaabo, su,aalahan muhiimka ah eed i waydiisay, midaydiina ama iska daa ama ka jawaab, adoo ku mahadsan labadaba:


walaal sidaad oo lo socoto, Ethiopia waa dowlad gaalo hogaamiso, diinta Kiritankana meel wayn ka ga jirta, inaguna waxaan nahay dad Muslim ah.
horta midaas ayaa kow ka ah waxa uu Rushku inooga Hiiliyey, Itobiyana uu ugu hiiliyey.
sidaad la socoto markii uu dagaalkii 1977 uu khadhadhaadey, Mingisti Haile Maryam waxuu u kacay dalka Rushka iyo waxii gaalo ah oo dhan, wuxuuna u sheegay in ay Itoobiya tahay Jasiirad uu Muslim hareereeyey, wuxuuna laalaabtay calankii, Mingisti wuxuu sheegay in ay Dadyow farabadan oo muslim ah ay Itoobiya ladagalamayaan, sida Dowladii, soomaaliyeed, Dunida Carabta, marka Yaban laga reebo, oo iyadu markaas ka amar qaadanaysay Soviet Union xulufana la ahayd, wuxuu sheegay in ayna meshan dagaal dhuleed ahayn ee ay arintu tahay dagaal diimeed,
markaas ayuu yidhi Rushka waa yahay, iyada oo markaas siyaasada u saartey in ay soomaalidu doonayso dhul balaadhsi, iwm, hadaba maxaa dhacay markii uu Rushka falalkaas Diimeed la kacay, Madaxwaynihii somaalia, ayaa waxaa u yeedhay, madaxwaynaha; Libia, wuxuuna u sheegay in ay Ethiopia, iyo Rushku arintaas ku heshiiyeen, Somalia Ciidama ka jooga gobalka Ogaadenia laga raaci doonto hadii uu san si shaqsa ah ooga la bixin, waxaa jirtay in ay soomaalia Rushka, si xanaaq iyo cadha leh ay ku tidhi Rushoow bax, isaguna uu markaas si toos ah uu ula saftay Ethiopia, waxaan ku weheliyey, Dowlada Cuba, Yaman, iyo wixii kale ee sovietka soo hoos kala yey.


anyway , diin ayaa inaga hiilisay, waxaana madaxa loo saaray, oo laynagu qabsaday in ay Somalia ciidamadeeda qaranku ay si toos ah oogu xadgudbeen dowlad kale, Soomaaliana waxay besha caalamka u sheegtay In ay WSALF dagaalamayso, markii la yidhi war Jamhadu ciidamadan iyo dabaabadkan midana ma lahee waxay arintu, waa la fahmay, in ay cadahay arinta ah Ku xadgub, iyo dhulbalaadhsi.

runtiina way ahayd, waxaa maanta la aaminsanyahay , in hadii ayna ciidamada Soomalia ayna soo galin Ogaadenia, in ay maanta xorroobi lahayd, sababtoo ah waxaa mesha ka bixi lahayd Daliilka ay gaaladu ku soo gabanayaan, ee ay leeyihiin, faragalin shisheeye, ayaa mesha soo gashay,

waxii qalad ah waad ka raali ahaanaysaan, iyo wixii gaf ah.

waa laga yabaa in aana su,aalaha kawada jawaabin, iyaga oo faahfaahsan, lakiin waxaan ku soo koobayaa, in ay arintu tahay, diin, laysuguna soo gabanayo, dal baa dal kale ku soo duúlay sidaa darteed waan caawinaynaa, ama cuna qabatayn aan saaraynaa IWM.


waxaad kalood la socotaan in aan keeni toono arimo ku saabsan dagaalkii 1977- 1982.

´waxii qalad ah qasti ma aha.

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DHANTOOLE

Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 07:59 am
HI ALL BROTHERS, AND SISTERS.

THIS IS OGADENIA HISTORY, AND IT IS GOOD FOR EVERYONE WHO FROM OGADENIA, AND LIKE TO KNOW OGADENIA HISTORY, ARAWEELO U ARE ONE OF THEM,
PLEASE READ IT.


VIEWS OF THE OGADEN PEOPLE UNDER
ETHIOPIAN COLONIALISM
BACKGROUND

The Ogaden Somali territory lies between Oromia to the West, Afar land to the Northwest, the Republic of Djibouti to the north, Kenya to the south and The Somali Republic to the east. Somali agro-pastorals people with a single language, culture, and socio-economic structure inhabit the Ogaden territory.
The Ogaden Somali people were free, independent and powerful until colonial powers from overseas came to Africa and started arming the Abyssinian chiefs in the north of present day Ethiopia. The Abyssinians using the arms and expertise provided by the colonialists captured Harar in 1884 and started raiding Ogaden Somali villages in that area, killing the men and selling women and children as slaves. The Ogaden Somalis resisted vehemently the encroachment of the Abyssinian expansionists and succeeded in halting their advance. Even though the Abyssinian military campaign to conquer the rest of the Somali territory failed, the colonial powers recognised its claim over the Ogaden Somaliland and signed treaties with them.
From 1886 to 1948, Abyssinia (renaming itself Ethiopia) waged a constant war of conquest against the Somalis but failed in gaining any further foothold in the Ogaden.

In 1935, Italy invaded Abyssinia and captured it along with the Ogaden and the territories of other nations in the area. Then the British defeated Italy in the Horn of Africa in 1941, and it administered the Ogaden for eight years until it transferred the first part of the Ogaden (Jigjiga area) to Ethiopia (the Abyssinians) for the first time. The next parts were transferred in 1954 and 1956. Thus, Ethiopia gained the control over the Ogaden without the knowledge or consent of the Ogaden Somalis. From that time onward, successive Ethiopian regimes mercilessly suppressed the Ogaden people and whenever the liberation movements seriously weakened and threatened Ethiopian colonialism, a foreign power directly intervened to re-establish its colonial rule over the Ogaden.

Ethiopia since the beginning of this century and up to now has been characterised by one nation using the powers of state to subjugate and exploit all the other nations within that artificial system. For almost one century, the Abyssinians are abusing the concept of sovereignty and statehood to deprive the rights of other people living under the rule of the artificial state of Ethiopia.

Ethiopia is a state founded on colonial doctrine and bases its rule on the use of force and emergency measures for oppressing the majority of the people and exploiting them. Ethiopia claims that African borders inherited from colonialism should be left intact and it inherited the Ogaden territory from the colonial powers. At the same time, Ethiopia is boasting to be the only African state that was never colonised. This means that Ethiopia has been a participating partner with the colonial powers that divided Africa among themselves but has never relinquished its colonial possessions.

To maintain such a colonial state, the rulers had to build a massive military machine and embark on forcefully maintaining one of the most vicious authoritarian rules in the third world. The resultant resistance from the people and the inevitable taxing of material and moral resources of the oppressing elite became Ethiopia Achilles’ hill and brought about the downfall of its successive regimes. The relentless resistance of the colonised nations and the consequential resource drainage brought down both the rules of Haille Sellassie and the military Junta of Mengistu.


THE CURRENT REGIME IN ETHIOPIA

After the fall of Mengistu Haille Mariam, EPRDF (Ethiopian Peoples Revolutionary Democratic Front - the new name adopted by the Tigray Peoples Liberation Front to camouflage it’s narrow ethnic base and rule Ethiopia, succeeded in capturing Addis Ababa with the help of Eritrean Peoples Liberation Front (EPLF). Although most of the nations under Ethiopian colonial rule contributed to the weakening and downfall of the Ethiopian Politico- military machine, specially the Ogaden Somali people who not only played a major role but also involved their brethren across the border from the Somali Republic, TPLF captured the seat of power and succeeded in gaining international recognition.

At first the new Ethiopian rulers feeling weak and aware of the international climate and the demise of totalitarian regimes and the era of colonialism, forwarded a reasonable and plausible program for addressing the burning issue of Ethiopian colonialism and its solution through recognising and granting the right of nations to self-determination through a peaceful process.

EPRDF offered the charter program, which recognised the right of nations to self-determination up to cessation and stated that a transitional period of two years has to relapse before the nations could exercise that right. Thus, EPRDF recognised the colonial nature of Ethiopia in principle.

The Ogadenia National Liberation Front (ONLF), considering the burden of the long struggle of the Ogaden Somali people and cognisant of the priceless value of resolving the long standing conflict between Ethiopia and the Ogaden people through peaceful means decided to give chance to peace and avert a costly and unnecessary war.

But before the ink was dry, it became obvious to ONLF that EPRDF was only buying time and was lying the ground for keeping intact the colonial legacy it inherited and was scheming to attain the submission of the Ogaden Somalis to it colonial rule through demagogy and token democracy. EPRDF grossly miscalculated the gravity and depth of the Ogaden Ethiopian problem.

EPRDF blinded by its sudden and unexpected victory and the temporary absence of challenge and armed opposition from The Ogadenia National Liberation Front grossly miscalculated the severity and gravity of the conflict between the Ogaden people and Ethiopia and the unbending desire of the Ogaden Somalis to regain their usurped sovereignty and independence. EPRDF, forgetful of the bitter experience of its people under the previous rulers and despite its rhetoric of being committed to democracy and the rule of law and respecting the right of nations began the construction of its politico-military structures for maintaining the colonial empire of its predecessors.

Hence, all people concerned in ending the long-standing conflict lost an excellent opportunity and EPRDF planted the seeds of the next cycle of bloodshed and violence in the region. It started trying to divide the Ogaden Somali people and undermine the leading role of ONLF by creating pseudo-organisations based on tribal lines. At the same time, it spread its intelligence network and military garrisons all over the Ogaden. In early 1992, the EPRDF government masterminded the killing of several ONLF officials, including some members belonging to the Front’s Central Committee. Then EPRDF attacked the headquarters of ONLF in an effort to wipe it out but withdrew after sustaining high casualties and postponed its plans.

In spite of all the intrigues and harassment of EPRDF, ONLF and the Ogaden Somalis persisted in avoiding confrontation and continued rebuilding their political and administrative institutions. In September 1992, the Ogaden people went to the polls to cast their votes in a free and fair election, for the first time in their long history, to elect their district councils and representatives for the regional parliament. EPRDF strongly campaigned for its surrogate parties and members, but in a landslide victory, the ONLF won about 84% of the seats in the newly elected regional parliament.

In mid-1993, the regional government complained to the government in Addis Ababa about its flagrant interference in the day-to-day affairs of the Ogaden region, an act that contradicted the commitment to regional autonomy and devolution of power to the regions. EPRDF retaliated by freezing the regional budget, diverting international aid, discouraging international Non Governmental Organisations (NGO’s) to work in the Ogaden, as well as obstructing all initiatives, and projects deemed necessary for the development of the region. In late 1993, the Ethiopian security forces arrested the president, vice-president and secretary of the Regional Assembly, and it transferred them to prison in Addis Ababa. EPRDF released them after ten months without trail.

Finally, when EPRDF established its legitimacy as the government of Ethiopia in the eyes of the international community, and its military and economic resources was enhanced, it felt confident enough to mount a military campaign against the Ogaden Somalis at the end of the transitional period. Moreover, in order to get the raison d’être for its campaign of terror and subjugation of the Ogaden people, EPRDF dictated to ONLF and the Ogaden Somalis an unacceptable choice. In effect, EPRDF told the Ogaden Somalis to either endorse a compulsory constitution that would legalise the colonisation of the Ogaden people by Ethiopia and the participation in an election where their role would be to endorse EPRDF nominated candidates. EPRDF strategy was to deceive the Ogaden Somalis into sanctioning its colonial rule while at the same time eliminating themselves from the political structures it intended to maintain its hegemony over the nations and avert any future threat. In addition, if the Ogaden Somalis oppose what it proposed, to get the motive for declaring war on the Ogaden people and extricate itself from honouring the pledges it entered in its moment of weakness and maintain the Ethiopian colonial legacy.

The Ogaden people, after deliberating on the moves and intentions of EPRDF and understanding the choices EPRDF was presenting to them—either to relinquish what they had fought for so long or to be trodden upon, decided that it was unacceptable to succumb to the designs of EPRDF and forgo the quest for their self-determination and freedom. A quest the Ogaden people had shed so much blood for and suffered so much.

Therefore, on 28 January 1994, at a press conference in Addis Ababa, ONLF called for a referendum on self-determination and independence for the Ogaden. And on 22 February 1994, a cold-blood massacre took place in the town of Wardheer, where more than 81 unarmed civilians were killed by TPLF militias, who tried to kill or capture alive the chairman of the ONLF Mr. Ibrahim Abdalla Mohamed, who was addressing at that time a peaceful rally in the centre of the town.

In February 1994, the Regional Assembly passed a unanimous resolution in accordance with the Transitional Charter, demanding a referendum on self-determination and independence for the Ogaden people, under the auspices of international and regional bodies such as United Nations, Organization of African Unity, European Union, and other independent non-governmental organizations.

The EPRDF government in Addis Ababa reacted swiftly overthrowing and virtually disbanding all democratically elected institutions in the Ogaden, including the Regional Parliament. Like their predecessors, the president of the Regional Parliament, vice-president and several members of the parliament (MPs), were arrested and transferred to prison in Addis Ababa. Mass arrests and indiscriminate killings also took place.

On 17 April 1994, the Ethiopian government launched a large scale military offensive against ONLF positions and detained many suspected supporters of ONLF and on 28 April 1994, at a press conference in Addis Ababa, the then TPLF defence minister Saye Abraha claimed that all resistance movements in the Ogaden had been destroyed and stamped out. In a petition addressed to the president of the Transitional Government of Ethiopia (TGE), the elders of the Ogaden asked the Ethiopian government to stop the military offensive against the Ogaden people, and seek a peaceful dialogue to resolve the conflict, instead of opting for a military solution, which complicates the already explosive situation.

In May 1994, the EPRDF government sponsored a new surrogate party called Ethiopian Somali Democratic League (ESDL), which is a version of People’s Democratic Organizations (PDO), which exists throughout Ethiopia within the EPRDF framework. The first congress of ESDL was held in Hurso under the patronage of the then prime minister of TGE Tamirat Layne (now eliminated also), who appointed a member of the ruling EPRDF coalition as a chairman of the new pro-government party.

On 25 January 1995, the EPRDF government hastily arranged a meeting in the town of Qabridaharre to convince the ONLF to participate in the upcoming federal and regional elections. The meeting, which was chaired by the then president Meles Zenawi (the current prime minister), failed when EPRDF refused to allow independent arbitrators to participate in a negotiated settlement. After that the ONLF, broke off all contacts with the EPRDF government, closed down its office in Addis Ababa and boycotted elections in 1995.

Since 20 April 1994, combatants of the ONLF and Ethiopian forces are fighting bloody battles and Ethiopia is vehemently denying the engagements with the liberation forces. Certainly, the ongoing struggle for self-determination and independence in the Ogaden continues to cause inhuman sufferings and are the basis of instability and tragedy in the Horn of Africa.

The 1991 Charter and the new Constitution, which Ethiopia espoused on 8 December 1994, guaranteed, as EPRDF claimed, the secession of a people if they are, “Convinced that their rights are abridged or abrogated”. In addition, the process of negating that the rights of the Ogaden Somali people is constantly abrogated proved too costly to the ruling junta in Addis Ababa.

The tyrannical regime in Ethiopia started a campaign of propaganda and public relation stunt in order to convince the international community of it democratic and liberal nature and to legitimise its continued presence in the Ogaden after the people requested to exercise their right to self determination and announced that it was conducting elections in the Ogaden. The Ogaden people thwarted its attempts but never the less it announced that the elections were held and its bogus surrogates had won the seats in the Ogaden. At the same time to further cloak its treachery, it formed its own ONLF party and unashamedly declared that ONLF had taken part in its sham elections. This was a clear indicator of its lack of confidence and inability to hide its failure to control the Ogaden.

From that time onwards, Ethiopia has been moulding and remoulding it sham representatives in the Ogaden, the so-called parties and Ogaden parliament, more than five times but up to this day Ethiopia is unable to manage the situation.

After failing to intimidate the Ogaden Somalis to go along with its colonial program, EPRDF has embarked on a war of attrition with ONLF and indiscriminate and inhuman tyranny against the Ogaden people. The Ethiopian army (EPRDF militia’s) killed, imprisoned or looted thousands of civilians. Hundreds of women were raped and for the first time in the history of the Ogaden people, male children were raped.

But the new Ethiopian colonial state headed by EPRDF has used every trick in the books of colonial strategy but failed to obliterate the armed national struggle of the Ogaden People and has been forced to occupy only the major towns and move in heavily armed convoys.

Then Ethiopia frantically resorted to human rights violations such as killings, imprisonments, forced conscription, exiling, intimidation and harassment, suppression of basic democratic rights which highlight the suffering of the peoples. The regime's policies of systematic underdevelopment include economic sabotage, irresponsible plunder of resources with no regard to sustainability of the environmental, denial of education opportunities, socio-cultural dismantling and subjection to conflict-ridden political and administrative structures.

Moreover in the Ogaden, EPRDF forces and Tigrean dealers, who have been given concessions and game-licences by the Ethiopian government, which is dominated by ethnic Tigreans, are devastating the poor and the fragile ecological balance by widespread exploitation and depletion of forests for military purposes, firewood and charcoal. The rich wildlife, including big game, game birds, forests and water resources has all suffered irreparable damage in the Ogaden under the Ethiopian government.

After it became obvious to EPRDF that it could not destroy the national resistance of the people and that it was gaining momentum, EPRDF following the strategies of its predecessors attacked stateless Somalia and captured three regions. Ethiopia is intending to find scapegoats to blame for its failure in subduing the Ogaden people and their rejection of its colonial lust, divert attention and in a bid to maintain its credibility both inside and outside Ethiopia. Ethiopia is also actively engaged in sabotaging the reconciliation of the Somali people and building of a Somali state. At the same time, Ethiopia is hosting summits for the Somali leaders and is posing as a mentor to the Somali people and collecting funds from the UN on that issue.

The Ethiopian destabilisation plan is not limited to the Somali nation. Ethiopia attacked Eritrea on the pretext of retaking two Eritrean territories but in reality is intent in recapturing Eritrea and colonising it again, but Ethiopia received from Eritrea lessons it did not bargain for.

Ironically, the Ethiopian government, which violates the very basic human rights of all citizens in the empire-state of Ethiopia, including the Ogaden Somalis, and wages wars against its neighbours, poses itself as a champion of Democracy and Human Rights in Africa.

THE POSITION OF THE OGADEN SOMALIS

The Ogaden Somali people present the following summation of their views about Ethiopia:

1. Ethiopia has colonised the Ogaden people and is viciously continuing that colonial legacy in spite of the change of regime in Addis Ababa and the Ogaden people categorically state that the present regime of EPRDF is not different from the rule of it predecessors in substance.

2. The Ogaden people are a sovereign nation, have the right to be masters of their destiny, and are intent on actualising that right.

3. The Ogaden people will continue to struggle as long as the Ethiopian state remains intransigent to the rights and wishes and continue pursuing its inhuman oppressive policies.

4. The Ogaden people will not participate in the bogus elections Ethiopia periodically conducts as a public relations exercise to beguile the local and international communities and hide its colonial and authoritarian nature, nor will they be take part in its colonial administrative structures.

5. The Ogaden people calls upon the people of Ethiopia not to participate in the maniacal purges the current regime is perpetrating on the Ogaden people and become a party to the regime’s crime against humanity.

6. The Ogaden people calls upon the current EPRDF regime ruling Ethiopia to desist from its current militaristic and aggressive attitude and accept a peaceful negotiated settlement of the current conflict between the Ogaden people and Ethiopia with the participation of third neutral parties from the international community.

APPEAL TO THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY

The Ogaden people inform the international community that the Ethiopian government is violating their basic human rights and is systematically exterminating them. Ethiopia is being encouraged to commit this genocide against the Ogaden people by the lack of the international community censure over its human Rights violations, and holding its rulers responsible for the gross human rights, abuses perpetrated by its Army and Security Forces in the Ogaden.

The Ogaden people appeal to the international to recognise the colonial nature of Ethiopia and its brutal repression of the Ogaden people and hold it accountable for its acts. Furthermore, Ethiopia is using international aid for military and political programs directed at oppressing the Ogaden Somalis and other nations under it s colonial rule and in its expansionist policies against its neighbours. Whenever its war coffers are depleted, Ethiopia appeals for international aid for natural disaster victims, at the same time Ethiopia has the means to attack two neighbouring states and maintain a huge colonial occupation army in the Ogaden, Oromia, Afar, Sidama and other territories of the oppressed nations.

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DHANTOOLE

Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 08:02 am
HI ALL BROTHERS, AND SISTERS.

THIS IS OGADENIA HISTORY, AND IT IS GOOD FOR EVERYONE WHO FROM OGADENIA, AND LIKE TO KNOW OGADENIA HISTORY, ARAWEELO U ARE ONE OF THEM,
PLEASE READ IT.


VIEWS OF THE OGADEN PEOPLE UNDER
ETHIOPIAN COLONIALISM
BACKGROUND

The Ogaden Somali territory lies between Oromia to the West, Afar land to the Northwest, the Republic of Djibouti to the north, Kenya to the south and The Somali Republic to the east. Somali agro-pastorals people with a single language, culture, and socio-economic structure inhabit the Ogaden territory.
The Ogaden Somali people were free, independent and powerful until colonial powers from overseas came to Africa and started arming the Abyssinian chiefs in the north of present day Ethiopia. The Abyssinians using the arms and expertise provided by the colonialists captured Harar in 1884 and started raiding Ogaden Somali villages in that area, killing the men and selling women and children as slaves. The Ogaden Somalis resisted vehemently the encroachment of the Abyssinian expansionists and succeeded in halting their advance. Even though the Abyssinian military campaign to conquer the rest of the Somali territory failed, the colonial powers recognised its claim over the Ogaden Somaliland and signed treaties with them.
From 1886 to 1948, Abyssinia (renaming itself Ethiopia) waged a constant war of conquest against the Somalis but failed in gaining any further foothold in the Ogaden.

In 1935, Italy invaded Abyssinia and captured it along with the Ogaden and the territories of other nations in the area. Then the British defeated Italy in the Horn of Africa in 1941, and it administered the Ogaden for eight years until it transferred the first part of the Ogaden (Jigjiga area) to Ethiopia (the Abyssinians) for the first time. The next parts were transferred in 1954 and 1956. Thus, Ethiopia gained the control over the Ogaden without the knowledge or consent of the Ogaden Somalis. From that time onward, successive Ethiopian regimes mercilessly suppressed the Ogaden people and whenever the liberation movements seriously weakened and threatened Ethiopian colonialism, a foreign power directly intervened to re-establish its colonial rule over the Ogaden.

Ethiopia since the beginning of this century and up to now has been characterised by one nation using the powers of state to subjugate and exploit all the other nations within that artificial system. For almost one century, the Abyssinians are abusing the concept of sovereignty and statehood to deprive the rights of other people living under the rule of the artificial state of Ethiopia.

Ethiopia is a state founded on colonial doctrine and bases its rule on the use of force and emergency measures for oppressing the majority of the people and exploiting them. Ethiopia claims that African borders inherited from colonialism should be left intact and it inherited the Ogaden territory from the colonial powers. At the same time, Ethiopia is boasting to be the only African state that was never colonised. This means that Ethiopia has been a participating partner with the colonial powers that divided Africa among themselves but has never relinquished its colonial possessions.

To maintain such a colonial state, the rulers had to build a massive military machine and embark on forcefully maintaining one of the most vicious authoritarian rules in the third world. The resultant resistance from the people and the inevitable taxing of material and moral resources of the oppressing elite became Ethiopia Achilles’ hill and brought about the downfall of its successive regimes. The relentless resistance of the colonised nations and the consequential resource drainage brought down both the rules of Haille Sellassie and the military Junta of Mengistu.


THE CURRENT REGIME IN ETHIOPIA

After the fall of Mengistu Haille Mariam, EPRDF (Ethiopian Peoples Revolutionary Democratic Front - the new name adopted by the Tigray Peoples Liberation Front to camouflage it’s narrow ethnic base and rule Ethiopia, succeeded in capturing Addis Ababa with the help of Eritrean Peoples Liberation Front (EPLF). Although most of the nations under Ethiopian colonial rule contributed to the weakening and downfall of the Ethiopian Politico- military machine, specially the Ogaden Somali people who not only played a major role but also involved their brethren across the border from the Somali Republic, TPLF captured the seat of power and succeeded in gaining international recognition.

At first the new Ethiopian rulers feeling weak and aware of the international climate and the demise of totalitarian regimes and the era of colonialism, forwarded a reasonable and plausible program for addressing the burning issue of Ethiopian colonialism and its solution through recognising and granting the right of nations to self-determination through a peaceful process.

EPRDF offered the charter program, which recognised the right of nations to self-determination up to cessation and stated that a transitional period of two years has to relapse before the nations could exercise that right. Thus, EPRDF recognised the colonial nature of Ethiopia in principle.

The Ogadenia National Liberation Front (ONLF), considering the burden of the long struggle of the Ogaden Somali people and cognisant of the priceless value of resolving the long standing conflict between Ethiopia and the Ogaden people through peaceful means decided to give chance to peace and avert a costly and unnecessary war.

But before the ink was dry, it became obvious to ONLF that EPRDF was only buying time and was lying the ground for keeping intact the colonial legacy it inherited and was scheming to attain the submission of the Ogaden Somalis to it colonial rule through demagogy and token democracy. EPRDF grossly miscalculated the gravity and depth of the Ogaden Ethiopian problem.

EPRDF blinded by its sudden and unexpected victory and the temporary absence of challenge and armed opposition from The Ogadenia National Liberation Front grossly miscalculated the severity and gravity of the conflict between the Ogaden people and Ethiopia and the unbending desire of the Ogaden Somalis to regain their usurped sovereignty and independence. EPRDF, forgetful of the bitter experience of its people under the previous rulers and despite its rhetoric of being committed to democracy and the rule of law and respecting the right of nations began the construction of its politico-military structures for maintaining the colonial empire of its predecessors.

Hence, all people concerned in ending the long-standing conflict lost an excellent opportunity and EPRDF planted the seeds of the next cycle of bloodshed and violence in the region. It started trying to divide the Ogaden Somali people and undermine the leading role of ONLF by creating pseudo-organisations based on tribal lines. At the same time, it spread its intelligence network and military garrisons all over the Ogaden. In early 1992, the EPRDF government masterminded the killing of several ONLF officials, including some members belonging to the Front’s Central Committee. Then EPRDF attacked the headquarters of ONLF in an effort to wipe it out but withdrew after sustaining high casualties and postponed its plans.

In spite of all the intrigues and harassment of EPRDF, ONLF and the Ogaden Somalis persisted in avoiding confrontation and continued rebuilding their political and administrative institutions. In September 1992, the Ogaden people went to the polls to cast their votes in a free and fair election, for the first time in their long history, to elect their district councils and representatives for the regional parliament. EPRDF strongly campaigned for its surrogate parties and members, but in a landslide victory, the ONLF won about 84% of the seats in the newly elected regional parliament.

In mid-1993, the regional government complained to the government in Addis Ababa about its flagrant interference in the day-to-day affairs of the Ogaden region, an act that contradicted the commitment to regional autonomy and devolution of power to the regions. EPRDF retaliated by freezing the regional budget, diverting international aid, discouraging international Non Governmental Organisations (NGO’s) to work in the Ogaden, as well as obstructing all initiatives, and projects deemed necessary for the development of the region. In late 1993, the Ethiopian security forces arrested the president, vice-president and secretary of the Regional Assembly, and it transferred them to prison in Addis Ababa. EPRDF released them after ten months without trail.

Finally, when EPRDF established its legitimacy as the government of Ethiopia in the eyes of the international community, and its military and economic resources was enhanced, it felt confident enough to mount a military campaign against the Ogaden Somalis at the end of the transitional period. Moreover, in order to get the raison d’être for its campaign of terror and subjugation of the Ogaden people, EPRDF dictated to ONLF and the Ogaden Somalis an unacceptable choice. In effect, EPRDF told the Ogaden Somalis to either endorse a compulsory constitution that would legalise the colonisation of the Ogaden people by Ethiopia and the participation in an election where their role would be to endorse EPRDF nominated candidates. EPRDF strategy was to deceive the Ogaden Somalis into sanctioning its colonial rule while at the same time eliminating themselves from the political structures it intended to maintain its hegemony over the nations and avert any future threat. In addition, if the Ogaden Somalis oppose what it proposed, to get the motive for declaring war on the Ogaden people and extricate itself from honouring the pledges it entered in its moment of weakness and maintain the Ethiopian colonial legacy.

The Ogaden people, after deliberating on the moves and intentions of EPRDF and understanding the choices EPRDF was presenting to them—either to relinquish what they had fought for so long or to be trodden upon, decided that it was unacceptable to succumb to the designs of EPRDF and forgo the quest for their self-determination and freedom. A quest the Ogaden people had shed so much blood for and suffered so much.

Therefore, on 28 January 1994, at a press conference in Addis Ababa, ONLF called for a referendum on self-determination and independence for the Ogaden. And on 22 February 1994, a cold-blood massacre took place in the town of Wardheer, where more than 81 unarmed civilians were killed by TPLF militias, who tried to kill or capture alive the chairman of the ONLF Mr. Ibrahim Abdalla Mohamed, who was addressing at that time a peaceful rally in the centre of the town.

In February 1994, the Regional Assembly passed a unanimous resolution in accordance with the Transitional Charter, demanding a referendum on self-determination and independence for the Ogaden people, under the auspices of international and regional bodies such as United Nations, Organization of African Unity, European Union, and other independent non-governmental organizations.

The EPRDF government in Addis Ababa reacted swiftly overthrowing and virtually disbanding all democratically elected institutions in the Ogaden, including the Regional Parliament. Like their predecessors, the president of the Regional Parliament, vice-president and several members of the parliament (MPs), were arrested and transferred to prison in Addis Ababa. Mass arrests and indiscriminate killings also took place.

On 17 April 1994, the Ethiopian government launched a large scale military offensive against ONLF positions and detained many suspected supporters of ONLF and on 28 April 1994, at a press conference in Addis Ababa, the then TPLF defence minister Saye Abraha claimed that all resistance movements in the Ogaden had been destroyed and stamped out. In a petition addressed to the president of the Transitional Government of Ethiopia (TGE), the elders of the Ogaden asked the Ethiopian government to stop the military offensive against the Ogaden people, and seek a peaceful dialogue to resolve the conflict, instead of opting for a military solution, which complicates the already explosive situation.

In May 1994, the EPRDF government sponsored a new surrogate party called Ethiopian Somali Democratic League (ESDL), which is a version of People’s Democratic Organizations (PDO), which exists throughout Ethiopia within the EPRDF framework. The first congress of ESDL was held in Hurso under the patronage of the then prime minister of TGE Tamirat Layne (now eliminated also), who appointed a member of the ruling EPRDF coalition as a chairman of the new pro-government party.

On 25 January 1995, the EPRDF government hastily arranged a meeting in the town of Qabridaharre to convince the ONLF to participate in the upcoming federal and regional elections. The meeting, which was chaired by the then president Meles Zenawi (the current prime minister), failed when EPRDF refused to allow independent arbitrators to participate in a negotiated settlement. After that the ONLF, broke off all contacts with the EPRDF government, closed down its office in Addis Ababa and boycotted elections in 1995.

Since 20 April 1994, combatants of the ONLF and Ethiopian forces are fighting bloody battles and Ethiopia is vehemently denying the engagements with the liberation forces. Certainly, the ongoing struggle for self-determination and independence in the Ogaden continues to cause inhuman sufferings and are the basis of instability and tragedy in the Horn of Africa.

The 1991 Charter and the new Constitution, which Ethiopia espoused on 8 December 1994, guaranteed, as EPRDF claimed, the secession of a people if they are, “Convinced that their rights are abridged or abrogated”. In addition, the process of negating that the rights of the Ogaden Somali people is constantly abrogated proved too costly to the ruling junta in Addis Ababa.

The tyrannical regime in Ethiopia started a campaign of propaganda and public relation stunt in order to convince the international community of it democratic and liberal nature and to legitimise its continued presence in the Ogaden after the people requested to exercise their right to self determination and announced that it was conducting elections in the Ogaden. The Ogaden people thwarted its attempts but never the less it announced that the elections were held and its bogus surrogates had won the seats in the Ogaden. At the same time to further cloak its treachery, it formed its own ONLF party and unashamedly declared that ONLF had taken part in its sham elections. This was a clear indicator of its lack of confidence and inability to hide its failure to control the Ogaden.

From that time onwards, Ethiopia has been moulding and remoulding it sham representatives in the Ogaden, the so-called parties and Ogaden parliament, more than five times but up to this day Ethiopia is unable to manage the situation.

After failing to intimidate the Ogaden Somalis to go along with its colonial program, EPRDF has embarked on a war of attrition with ONLF and indiscriminate and inhuman tyranny against the Ogaden people. The Ethiopian army (EPRDF militia’s) killed, imprisoned or looted thousands of civilians. Hundreds of women were raped and for the first time in the history of the Ogaden people, male children were raped.

But the new Ethiopian colonial state headed by EPRDF has used every trick in the books of colonial strategy but failed to obliterate the armed national struggle of the Ogaden People and has been forced to occupy only the major towns and move in heavily armed convoys.

Then Ethiopia frantically resorted to human rights violations such as killings, imprisonments, forced conscription, exiling, intimidation and harassment, suppression of basic democratic rights which highlight the suffering of the peoples. The regime's policies of systematic underdevelopment include economic sabotage, irresponsible plunder of resources with no regard to sustainability of the environmental, denial of education opportunities, socio-cultural dismantling and subjection to conflict-ridden political and administrative structures.

Moreover in the Ogaden, EPRDF forces and Tigrean dealers, who have been given concessions and game-licences by the Ethiopian government, which is dominated by ethnic Tigreans, are devastating the poor and the fragile ecological balance by widespread exploitation and depletion of forests for military purposes, firewood and charcoal. The rich wildlife, including big game, game birds, forests and water resources has all suffered irreparable damage in the Ogaden under the Ethiopian government.

After it became obvious to EPRDF that it could not destroy the national resistance of the people and that it was gaining momentum, EPRDF following the strategies of its predecessors attacked stateless Somalia and captured three regions. Ethiopia is intending to find scapegoats to blame for its failure in subduing the Ogaden people and their rejection of its colonial lust, divert attention and in a bid to maintain its credibility both inside and outside Ethiopia. Ethiopia is also actively engaged in sabotaging the reconciliation of the Somali people and building of a Somali state. At the same time, Ethiopia is hosting summits for the Somali leaders and is posing as a mentor to the Somali people and collecting funds from the UN on that issue.

The Ethiopian destabilisation plan is not limited to the Somali nation. Ethiopia attacked Eritrea on the pretext of retaking two Eritrean territories but in reality is intent in recapturing Eritrea and colonising it again, but Ethiopia received from Eritrea lessons it did not bargain for.

Ironically, the Ethiopian government, which violates the very basic human rights of all citizens in the empire-state of Ethiopia, including the Ogaden Somalis, and wages wars against its neighbours, poses itself as a champion of Democracy and Human Rights in Africa.

THE POSITION OF THE OGADEN SOMALIS

The Ogaden Somali people present the following summation of their views about Ethiopia:

1. Ethiopia has colonised the Ogaden people and is viciously continuing that colonial legacy in spite of the change of regime in Addis Ababa and the Ogaden people categorically state that the present regime of EPRDF is not different from the rule of it predecessors in substance.

2. The Ogaden people are a sovereign nation, have the right to be masters of their destiny, and are intent on actualising that right.

3. The Ogaden people will continue to struggle as long as the Ethiopian state remains intransigent to the rights and wishes and continue pursuing its inhuman oppressive policies.

4. The Ogaden people will not participate in the bogus elections Ethiopia periodically conducts as a public relations exercise to beguile the local and international communities and hide its colonial and authoritarian nature, nor will they be take part in its colonial administrative structures.

5. The Ogaden people calls upon the people of Ethiopia not to participate in the maniacal purges the current regime is perpetrating on the Ogaden people and become a party to the regime’s crime against humanity.

6. The Ogaden people calls upon the current EPRDF regime ruling Ethiopia to desist from its current militaristic and aggressive attitude and accept a peaceful negotiated settlement of the current conflict between the Ogaden people and Ethiopia with the participation of third neutral parties from the international community.

APPEAL TO THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY

The Ogaden people inform the international community that the Ethiopian government is violating their basic human rights and is systematically exterminating them. Ethiopia is being encouraged to commit this genocide against the Ogaden people by the lack of the international community censure over its human Rights violations, and holding its rulers responsible for the gross human rights, abuses perpetrated by its Army and Security Forces in the Ogaden.

The Ogaden people appeal to the international to recognise the colonial nature of Ethiopia and its brutal repression of the Ogaden people and hold it accountable for its acts. Furthermore, Ethiopia is using international aid for military and political programs directed at oppressing the Ogaden Somalis and other nations under it s colonial rule and in its expansionist policies against its neighbours. Whenever its war coffers are depleted, Ethiopia appeals for international aid for natural disaster victims, at the same time Ethiopia has the means to attack two neighbouring states and maintain a huge colonial occupation army in the Ogaden, Oromia, Afar, Sidama and other territories of the oppressed nations.

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DHANTOOLE

Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 08:14 am
waxaan salaamay dhamaan umada kobtan isugu timaada.
salaan kadib , waxaan filayaa dhamaantiin in aad ka faiidaysan doontaan qoraaladan ka hadlaya Tariikhda dhulka Ogaadenia, waxaan idiin rajaynayaa in ay doodeenu mar walba noqoto wax ina anfaca.

asalaamu calaykum dhamaantiin.

wixii su,aala ah way furanyihiin ee cilmi ku salaysan::::..

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Zaylici

Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 08:51 am
Mr. Dhantoole,
Please do not cheat yourself. The articles that you have posted are without referenc or footnote.
This attests that the author of this articles is not Mr. Dhantoole. Cheating other authors documents is the character of the ignorant.

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Ahmadey

Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 02:05 pm
Hi Zaylici:

The article Mr. DHAANTOOLE(ogaden History) forwarded is wrote by A/Mahdi, a high ranking ONLF official and it is posted Ogaden Online under History section.

Ps, I think it is good idea to point out once's mistake in a civilised manner..thnx

Salaams
Ahmadey

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DHANTOOLE

Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 11:08 pm
Ahmadey walaal waan ku salaamay horta salaan kadib,

walaal artikalkan waa laga yabaa in isagoo kale horey loo keenay lakiin meshaas kama soo helin, lakiin waa wax muhiim ah in umadu Tariikhdeeda ogaato, dhulka Ogaadenia wuxuu leeyahay tariikh dheer oo aan lagu soo koobi karin hal artikel, iyo laba toona, waxaana fiican qof walba wixii uu ka ogyahay iyo waxii uu meel ka soo heli karo in uu umadiisa rabta in ay wax ka ogaato uu usoo bandhigo, si ay uga faiidaystaan.

asalaamu calaymum dhamaantiin,

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Zaylici

Monday, January 22, 2001 - 12:30 am
Mr.Ahmedy,
Please accept my thanks for revealing that
the authentic writer of the articles is not
Mr.Dhantole. I would like to emphasize here that
violating the copyright of the other people is a crime.

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abdirazaq

Monday, January 22, 2001 - 03:51 am
Qofka sidiisaba,Eebihiis,ayaa leh_waa marka koowaade.Cid aan asiga aheyna uma talinkaro "shaqsi ahaan"_labo dheh.Tan seddexaad waa cid uusan raali ka aheyn uma talinkarto.Jidka markaad mareyso cid aad ka gabato,miyaa jira?Canshuurta adoo raali ah miyaad bixisaa,mise waad ku qasbantahay!?Zakada ma bixisaa?!Waa su'aalo ka taagan in aad ILAHAA xor u tahay,iyo in aad dadka adoon u tahay.Sidey xaaladaadu tahay.Bal gooni ahaan isku wareyso?Askeriga Amxaarka ah haduu kaa hor yimaad maxaad sameyn,ma salaami!?Magaca gobolka lagu xureynkaro;Ilaa iyo hadda(iyo ilaa ey doodani taagantahay)cida magaca leh ayaa looga baahan yahay xureynta magaca iyo gobolkaba.

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ARAWEELO

Monday, January 22, 2001 - 10:10 am
Mudane Dhantoole,
Runtii waad ku dhiiqatay su`aashii 1aad ee aad ka jawaabtay. Waxaad uga jawaabtay si qof kastoo Soomali ah xataa mid aan waxbaran uga jawaabi lahaa. Hadaan soo koobo nuxurkeeda jawaabtaadi waxay aheyd Ruushku wuxu Itoobiya ugu hiliyey arrin diin daradeed madaama Itoobiya iyo Ruushku isku diin ahaayeen.
Dhantoole, sababihii dowlada Ruushku xukumadadii Amxarada dagaalkii 1977/78 ula safatay arrin diineed way ku jirtay lakiin mahaeyn sababta kali ee waxaa jiray sababa kale oo kala ah sidan hoos ku qoran:
B. Ruushku wuxuu u arkayey dhaqan-dhaqaaleedka (socio-economic system) Itoobiya in uu ka heersareeyo kan Soomaliya ee ah dhaqan-dhaqaale reer guuraha wuxuna aminsanaa in kacaan Hantiwadaag ahi ka dhaqan gali karo Itoobiya balse usan ku ambaqaadi karin Soomaliya. Ruushka waxaa u muuqatay in ay Itoobiya leedahay hab-dhaqan-dhaqaale la mid ah kii Ruushka ka Jiray markuu kacaanku ka dhashay oo ah Feudal system,
Soomaliya wuxuu u arkayey dal xubin ka ah Jamacadda carabta oo haday Ruushka isku-xumadaan dhaqaale ahaan ka maarmi karta balse Itoobiya wuxu u arkayey dal aan lalahyan gaashaan-buur cidnaba. wAXAYNA dowlada Ruushku u arkaysay Dalka Itoobiya in ay noqon karto meel cidamada Ruushku ku nagaan karaan oo aan laga eryeynay sidii looga eryey Masar iyo Sudaan,
T. Dalka Itoobiya waxaa ku talaa Xarunta Ururka Midowga Afrika iyo Xarunta Heyada dhaqaalha Afrika
ee UN-ta(Economic Commission for Africa). Dowlada Ruushku waxay u arkaysay dalka Itoobiya in ay u tahay dalalka Afrika xudunta xidaas daraadeed ay tahay dal kaga haboon Soomaaliya si ay siyasadeeda iyo ideologiyadeeda uga fidiso,
X. Dowladda Ruushku marabin in wax laga badalo xududada Afrika waayo wuxuu u arkayey arrin carqaladaynaysa habkii Dagaalka qaboobaa ee ka jiray aduunka waqtigaa. Ruushka waxay ula muuqatay isbedel ku dhaca xuduuda Soomali-Galeed in ay keeni karto in dadka Jermalka Bari-ahaan-jiray in ay u hanqal tagaan in ay ku biraan Jermalka Galbeed ama dalalk Moslinka ee Ruusku Gumaysan Jiray Sida Azerbajan Tajakistan iyo kuwa kale ka xoroobayba in ay u hugroodaan in ay ka xoroobaan Gumaysiga Ruushka,
Kh. Waxaa jiray xidhiidh taaarikhi ah oo ka dhexeyey Itoobiya iyo boqortooyada Ruushka ka soo ku salaysnaa xidhiidhka dineed ee labada dal.Xidhiidhkaa dineed wuxuu ahaa labada dalba waxaa waqtigaa mayalka siyassada labada boqotooyo ee dalka la hayey laba kaniisadood ee orthodox ah ee labada dal ka jira. Isbitaalkii ugu horeyey dalka Itoobiya waxaa la dhisay waqtigii Menilik taaso hidisaha Isbitaalka ay lahayd kansada Ruushka ee Orthodox-ah,
D. Sida ku qoran buuga la yiraado Cold war
Bulliten Fidal Kastro oo isbarbardhigayey Hantiwadagnimada Mangist Iyo Siad-barre wuxu yidhi,
" Siyaad barre waa nin xukunka qabsaday isagoon hal xabada ridin. Tarajaduu Siyaad Barre haysto waa mid gumaysigii ugu tolay. Mangistu waa nin kacaan dhaliyey oo riday dowlad boqotooyo ah oo 3000 oo sano soo jirtay. Mangistu hanti qaranka wuu qarameeyey guryihiin wuu la wareegay wuxuna u qaybiyey dan-yarta ". Dowlada Ruushku waxay u arkaysay Siad Bare nin Gumaysigii ku soo hanaqaaday manaba aan noqon karayna hogaamiye dal hantiwadaag ah balse Mangist waxay un arkayeen nin ku soo barbaaray nacaybka boqortooyada Itoobiya iyo nacaybka reer Galbeedka.
Mudane Dhantoole,
Suaashan jawaabteeda way dheertahay waxaan kugula talin lahaa si aad uga bugatid fadlan akhri buugan:
The Soviet Union in the Horn of Africa
The diplomacy of intervention and disengagement
Robert G. Patman, published by Cambridge University Press 1999

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Anonymous

Monday, January 22, 2001 - 11:24 am
Aga, Aga, war naagtu cilmi badanaa.
Ilaahay balankii waxbay akhrisatay. Goormaad waxaasoo dhan soo baadhay Araweelo.
Inadeerey Ilaahay ha kuu siyaadiyo cilmiga.
Aameen.

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maxamed

Monday, January 22, 2001 - 02:39 pm
LOL ARAWELO

DHAANTOOLE MARHORAAN KU IRI GABARDHA KA HAR BRO
QOFTAN DABYAR MASHIDEEYSO,WAXAAD LABADIINA TAABATEENBA WAA WAX JIRA.

LABADIINABA WAXEYDAAN AQOON JAAHILBAAD KA TIHIIN
WAA LAYS DHAAMAA LAAKIIN,MA UMALEYNAYO DADKEENAN OGADENIA HALA ISTICMALO&MAYA ISKU FAHMI
IN GARAAD SAA UBUURAN AAN LEENAHAY.

....NABADGELYO....!

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Ahmadey

Monday, January 22, 2001 - 05:06 pm
ARAWAEELO:

Runtii si cilmiyeysan ayaad uga jawaabtey.

Well said ssiter, keep up the good work..


Salaams
Ahmadey

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Ahmadey

Monday, January 22, 2001 - 05:12 pm
Zaylici:

Waad mahadsantahay walaalkiis. Waxaan ka waday oo kaliya walaalkeen Dhaantoole khaladkisa si aysan hujuun ku jirin u tus.

DHAANTOOLE: Waa runtaa oo ARTICLE-ka hadii aad internetka Search ku sameyso eregyga 'Ogaden'(Depends which search engine you use) waad ka heli kartaa. Waxaad kale oo aad ka heli kartaa 'SIDAMOCONCERN.COM'

Salaams
Ahmadey

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DHANTOOLE

Monday, January 22, 2001 - 10:34 pm
horta dhamaantiin waan idin salaamay.

salaan kadib walaal Araweelo waad ku mahadsantahay sida fiican eed u faahfaahisay su,aasha, ana waxaan filayaa in aan si wanaagsan ooga jawaabay balse sidaad u faahfaahisay ayaana u faahfaahinin midaasina waa wax caadi ah, si kastaba ha ahaatee waad mahadsantahay, waana arin fiican in wax lakala faaidaysto,

lakiin walaal waxaan kuu sheegayaa mid aad ku qaldantay , midaas oo ah jaahil, mana aadan ka jawaabin, waad ku dhacday, balse hadii aan ka jawaabo, walaal inagu waxaan nahay dad muslim ah waxayna diinteenu sheegaysaa in ay Reebantahay in qof islaam ah lagu yidhaahdo waxaad tahay Jaahil, ruxii aan Ilaahay iyo Rasuulkiisa, rumaynin ayaa jaahil ah, si kastoo uu wax u yaqaano waa jaahil qofkaasi waayo wixii aduunka loo keenay ayuunaba ogayn. marka waa mamnuuc in aad qaf muslim ah oo Ilaahay iyo Rasuulkaba rumeeyey in aad ku dhahdo, jaahil, waa danbi. marka walaal midaas waad iska ilaalinaysaa, hana umalaynin in aan anigu ka xanaaqsanahay hadalkaas gafka ah eega wax tagay ayaaba xun in laga dabatago, lakiin midaasi waa iga waano , bye Araweelo,

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DHANTOOLE

Monday, January 22, 2001 - 10:44 pm
salaan dhamaantiin.


sxbyaal xumaan ma aha in wixii ina anfacaya mesha lakeeno meshii la doonaba halaga keenee Ilaahow laga keeno miyigeenii, marka waxaas yuuna ina mashquulinin ee wax kale oo cilmi ku jiro keena meshan, si aan ukala faaiidaysano, aniga oo aan is caayeynin, ama aan isu xanaaqsanayn,

su,aal ayaan golahan u soo badhigayaa,
su,aashu waxay tahay, wixii u horeeyay ee cunsuriyad ama racist bilaabay yuu ahaa oo xagay ka dhacday ?

ninkii u horeeyey ee traffic light ama laydka cas bilaabay yuu ahaa ?

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KARAMARDHA KEYNAAN

Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 02:13 am
DHANTOOLE,
Ruuntii arrimaha aad ka hadlaysaa maha mid khusaysa arrintan aan ka hadlayno oo ah qadyada Soomali-Galbeed. Mana haboona in aad soo bandhigtid suà`aalahan aan wax xiriira la lahayn arrinta aan ka hadlayno.

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JOON AHMED HASSAN

Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 05:16 am
WARHOOY SOOMAALI NIN WALBA MEESHU DAGA BU DOWLAD KA DHISTAY MAGANA OGA DHIGAY EE MAXAA OGAADEEN AFKA LOOGU SOO TAAG WAAR SHAQO YEESHA QOF AAN WAX KA RABNO MALAHA ANAGA BAA XORAYSANAYNA WADANKANAG AMAAN NOO SIIYA WADANKANAGA MAGACANAG

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DHAANTOOLE

Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 10:03 am
waryaah midkaagan hada mesha caga soo galiyey xageed nagala qaaday, waa mid kaagan KARAMARDHA labaxay, sxb meshan qadiyadi ma taalo waxaa yaala muran iyo qajajac, iyo waxaan dhaamin, sababtoo ah waxaa laga dhamaan la,ayahay Magaca Ogaadeniya, wax dhaamana waa la keeni la,ayahay, qadiyad kala haba sheegin, maxaa yeelay hadii runta layska indha tiraynin, aduunku dhulkaas wuxuu u yaqanaa Ogaadenia, Somaali Galbeed wax u yaqanana ma jiro, madaama ay sidaas tahay waxaa fiican in aan magaca loo yaqaano wax ku raadino, markii aan xornimo helana aan, waxaan doono ubixino,

marka hadii aan sheekadaa malaa yacniga ah aan ka dhamaan waynay , waxaa dhaanta in aan wax lake aan ka hadalo waxaas oo ina anfacaya, marka sxb adigu hadii aad su,aalahaas ka jawaabi kartid U wlc hadii kale isga aamus,

SALAAMU CALAYKUM

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ARAWEELO

Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 10:34 am
Mudane Dhantoole,
Qoraalkaagi waan akhristay sida haboon ee aad igu jawaabtayna waad ku mahadsantahy. Waxaan ka codsan lahaa in aad ila socodsiiso in aad ka soo jawaabayso su`aalihii kale ee aan ku soo gudbiyey.
Waxaan jeclaanlahaa in aan ku soo tabiyo jawaabtooda hadii aysan suragal ku aheen in aad ka soo jawaabtid.

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NATIILE

Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 11:01 am
SOMALIDA DEGTA MAGALADA LA YIDHAAHDO BAABILI WAXAY LEEYIHIIN ODHAAH TIDHAAHDA:
< DHADHAARKA OO LA BADALAA DHARIGA MA MACANAYNAYO<
DHADHAARKU WAA DHAGAX DHERIGA LA DULSAARO.
ODHAAHDAN MICNAHEEDU WAXAY TAHAY DHERIGA HADAAN SIDA WAX LAGA BADELIN DHADHAARKA OO LA WAREEJIYA
WAXBA MA BEDELAYSO.
HADABA ANOO KA SHIDAALQAADANAYA DADKA KU ADKAYSANAYA MAGACA OGADENIA WAXAA DHIHI LAHAA WAXAA TIHIIN QOF CUNTA KARINAYA OO U HAYSTA DHADHAARKOO LA WAREEJIYA IN AY CUNTADA MACAANAYNAYSO. ARRINTA WAXAAN UGA GOL LEEAHAY HADAAD TIHIIN OGADEEN WAXAA TIHIIN XUBIN KA MID AH XUBNAHA sOOMAALIYEED EE KU DHAQAN CARIGA SOOMALI-GALBEED. SHACBIGA SOOMALI-GALBEED DHAMAANTI RAALI KAMA AH MAGAC OGADENIA. HADABA DADKA AAN OGAADEENKA AHEYN EE SOOMALI-GALBEED KAMA MAARMAAN QABIILKA OGADENKA SIDOO KALE OGAADEENKUNA KAMA MAARMO SOOMALIDA KALE EE AAN OGADEENKA AHEYN.
WAXAAN KU TALINLAHAA SIDAY XEEGANA XEEGO KU NOQOTO ILKANA KU NABAD-GALAAN IN MAGACAN HOOS KU QORAN LOOGU HEESHIIYO.
CARIGA SOOMALI-GALBEED EE LOO YAQAANO OGADENIA.
( wESTERN SOMALIA BETTER KNOWN AS OGADENIA )

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KAADHEERI

Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 09:32 pm
Mr.Joon,
La soco cariga Soomali-galbeed maha dhul Ogadeen kaligi dego. Waxaa dhulka Soomali-Galbeed degan
dad Soomali ah oo aan ku abtirsan-Ogaden sidaas daraadeed magac dhulka loo
bixinayo go`aan uu Ogaadeen iska-leeyahay maha.
Mr. Joon, la soco Ogaadeenka waxay ka degan-yihiin cariga Soomali-Galbeed dhul qorfa ah oo lamadegaan ah meesha Soomalida kale uu Ilaahay siyey dhul-barwaaqa ah oo beeralay ah.Siyaasada ku salaysan Ogadenisim ee asaaskeegu yahay cariga Soomali-Galbeed muwaadinka kobaad ha noqdo qofka ku abtirsada Ogaden, dadka kale Soomali-Galbeed ha noqdaan muwaaadiniyiinta labaad waa mid maan-gaaban ee addunkan laga gubbay qarnigii labatanaad aan ka soconaynay. Magaca Soomali-Galbeed waa magac ka turjumaya xaqiiqda dhuleed iyo tan shacbi ee cariga Itoobiya gumaysato ee Soomaaliyeed. Sida horay loo sheegay Ogaadeenku wuxu ahaa markuu qaranka soomaaliyeed jiray dadkuu manafaac badan helay gaar ahaan xagga xilalaka waxaa nasiib daro ah maanta in ay diidan magac Soomaliyeed oo oo wanaag mooyey< wax dhibaata ahi ka soo gaadhin. Ilaahay runta ha wafajiyo Ogaadeenka.

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ALi

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 12:32 am
salaan dhamaantiin,'

KAADHEERI, sxb waxaan umalayn adigoo xanaaqsan in aad kobtan soo gashay, waxaad ku hadlaysana waa wax xaqiiqada ka fog sxb, tumaa ku gu tidhi OGAADEN baa dhulka abaarta ah daga,

sxb wax lala doodi karo ma tihid ee dhulka iyo dadka soo baro, markii aad hadlaysana adoon cuqdad qabin hadal, hadii kale cuqdada aad Ogaaden u qabto ayuun baad u dhiman, meel abarana afkaaga ku dajinmaysid, marka horaba magaca aad la baxday ayaa laga garan in aad cuqdad qabto, lakiin Ilaahay ayaa Ogaaden laandheere ka dhigay kac de Ilaahay la dood hadii aad midaas ka xuntahay Tii yarayd ee waxaa kuu gu sheekaysana waad iqaladay ku dheh Ileen aqli kaa ah iyo aqoontoona kumaadan hadline, dhulka oogu barwaaqaysan waxaa daga Ogaaden, hadii aad wax taqaano, bye

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ARAWEELO

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 12:24 pm
Cariga Soomali-galbeed meeshay degaan qabiil heblaayo waa qorfe ama lama degaan in la dhaho waa arrin aan munaasib aheyn waayo dhulka Soomali Galbeed haday meeli tahay barwaaqo meelina tahay lamadegaan waa dhul ka wada dhexeeya shacbiga Soomali-galbeed ee maha mid qabiil kali ah iska-leeyahay. Fikrad ah in dhulka loogu yeedho Soomali-galbeed waa ku raacsanahay Kaadheeri balse fikradiise kale ee ku sabasan in gobtan ku qoro qabiilka ogaden dhulku degaa waa lamadegaan waxaaan u arkaa arin aan cilmisnayn oo ku-salaysan
arrin runta ka fog.

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Koshin

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 01:02 pm
MS. ARAWEELO.

walaal wax ma nooga taabtaabanikartaa arigtidaad guud ahaaneed ee lagu wajihikaro gobonimad dalkeena?

Waa mahadsantahay

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ARAWEELO

Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 05:14 am
Mr.Dhantoole,
Fadlan waxaan kaa dalbanayaa in add ka soo jawaabtid suaalihii aan ku soo bandhigay.

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ODAYBIIQE

Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 02:29 pm
NINKA WATA MAGAC QABIIL EEHADANA LEH WAXBAAN XORAYNAYAA MAALIN AAN MAANTA,AHAYN AYUU FAHMIDOONAA XAQIIQDA IYO SOOMAALINIMO IYO WAXAAN SE KAYAABI INAY KUQAADATO WAQTIDHEER.

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laayaan

Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 03:34 pm
odey biiqoow waxaan ku leeyahey magacan saad doonto u qaado waa ogadenia xoryntiisana adi kaagama baahno ee ogow soomaalidan aad la ordeysaana qaran la,ek baanahey odoo kalena waan aqaanaa koley cidaad taheyna waan ogahey halka cadow ee tigreeda noo sooraaca waa adi ee hamoodin in lagu moog yahey o n l f guul gobanimo cadaalad xaqdhowr ismaqal ayaanu lee nahey in sha alaaaah amiiiiiiiiiiiiin

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komaande

Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 05:50 pm
Wakaa. Caqli ogaadeen dheh. Ogaadeenow waxaan idin dhihi lahaa intaydaan xornimo doonin caqli wax lugu xoreeyo doona. Xornimadu ruux walboo waan doonayaa yiraaha uma imaato, oo jid loo maray leedahay. Waxaana ugu horeeya inaad shacabka taageeradiisa kasbatid.
salaam.

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ODAY BIIQE

Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 06:04 pm
war ogaadeen muxuu xoreeyaa waxayba ku mashquulsan yihiin anagaa dadkoodhan ubadan anagaa wadanka iskaleh runtiina waxaan odhan karaa iyagaa kadanbeeya waxanoo dhan oo jaanis,siinaya Axmaarada walaahay wax lasameeyo magaranayno.

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ARAWEELO

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 12:45 am
MR.KOOSHIN,
SUAASHII AAD I WAYDIISAY WAXAA JAWAABTEEDII OO KOOBAN KUU DHIBAY KOMAANDE. nUXURKA JAWAABTEEEDU WAXAY TAHAY IN LA HELO QIYAADO FIICAN OO KASBAN KARTA SHACBIGA SOOMALIGALBEED OO HADAF WADANIMO LEH. qIAYDADAASI WAA IN AY GARATAA WAQTIGA HALGANKA SIYASADEED UU MUNAASOB YAHAY IYO WAQTIGA HALGANKA DAGAALKU MUNAASIB YAHAY.SHACBIGA SOOMALIGALBEED MAHELIN QIYAADO AY KU SOO HIRTAAN OO U HORSEEDA DHABIHII AY KU XOROOBI LAHAYEEN.
WAQTIGAN HADAN LA MARAYAO OO DAGAALKII QABOOBA KA
DIN (POST-COLD WAR WORLD), WAXAY U MUUQATAA IN IFAFALAHA GEESKA AFRIKA IYO TAN CALAMKUBA MID AAN U FIICNAYNA HALGANKA SOOMALI-GALBEED.TAN-GEESKA AFRIKA SHACBIGA SOOMALIGALBEED QARANKII U DUGSANAYEY-SOOMALIYA WAY BURBURTAY OO MA HELAYNO MEEL AAN KA DAGAAL GALNO.WAXAA TAA KA SII DARAN QABIILOOYINKA KA TALIYA SOOMALIY OO QAARKOOD U ARKAAAN CADOW SHACBIGA SOOMALIGALBEED. MR.KOSHIN, MAANTA MAY KULA TAHAY IN UU SHACBIGA SOOMAéLI-GALBEED UU QAXOOTO KA NOQON KARO CARO ISAAQ IYO CARO HAWIYE EE SOOMALIYA. JAWAABTU WAA MAYA. WAXAAN HALKAN RABAA IN AAN KA SHEEGO MAANTA URURADA LEH DAGAAL AYAAN KU JIRNAA MAGARANAYAAN WAQTIGA UU DAGAALKU MUNAASIB YAHAY.MR.KOOSHIN, HA U QAADANIN IN AAN KU LEEYAHAY QADYADA XORNIMAD BADIGOOBKA AH AAN ISKA DHAAFNO BALSE UJEEDADAYDU WAXY TAHAY IN LA OGAADO WAQTIGA DAGAAL AAD QADI KARTID IYO WAQTIGA ADAN QAADI KARAYN. WAXAAN KU TALIN LAHAA IN WAQTIGAN XADARKA AH AAN KU KOOBNAANO DAGAAL SIYASADEED OO DIBADEED WAAYO DADKA SOOMALIGALBEED MA QAADI KARO DHIMASHOOYIN DHEERAAD AH OO DADKEENO LOOGU LAAYO GAAJO.DAGAAL AAD OGTAHAY IN ADAN KU GULAYSANAYN OO DADKAAGAN LOO QORSHEEYEY IN GAAJO LOOGU LAAYO HADAAD DAGAALKA SIIWADID WAXAA HOBOON IN AAD SI KU-MEEL GAAR AH AAD U JOOJISID DAGAALKA OO AAD KU DADAASHID MIDEYNTA DADKAAAGA DIBEDDA IYO GUDAHABA
INTAAD KA HELAYSID XALAD KU SAMAXAYSA IN AAD DAGAAL QAADID.

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ODAY BIIQE

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 07:11 am
waad salaamantahay araweelo midakale hadaynu inagu daacad isunahay oon israacsanahay mawaxay idanlatahay inay Axmaaro joogilahayd soomaaligalbeed jawaabtu waamaya maya maya maxay ujoogi wayday (77)wali waxbaa si,inaga,ah illaahay ha inafahamsiiyo aamiin.

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KOSHIN

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 12:22 pm
MS. ARAWEELO.

WAAD KU MAHADSAN TAHAY ARIGTITAADA GUUD AHAANEED.

MIDA KALE MAXAA LOOWAAYEY DADKA AAN OGAADEEN KA DHALANIN IN AY HOGAAN NABAD AMA DAGAAL MID UUN SAMEYSTAAN.

MAXAASE KU SABABEY IN MAR WALBA AY CANBAAREEYAN HALGANKA WALAALAHOD AY WADAAN HABA DOONAAN IN AY KA FIKRAD DUWAAN KARAAN.

FADLAN ARIGA OO RAALI AH INTAA II MACNEE.

MAHADSANID.

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dheghdheer

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 01:41 pm
Areweelo waad salaamantahay,buhoodle wixii kashishisheeya ayaad xoreynaysaa miyaa?

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ARAWEELO

Friday, January 26, 2001 - 11:42 pm
Mr.Kooshin,
Taarikhda hadaad la socotid halganka xornima dirirka ah ee Soomali-galbeed wuxuu ka bilaabmay Jig-jiga oo aan aheyn cari ay degaan qabiilka Ogadeenku waqtigii SYL.DAGAALKII 1977/78 shacbiga Soomali-Galbeed ee aan Ogadeeenka aheyn waa siddad ugu yeedhaye kalin lama iloobaana ay ka soo qaateen.
Mr.kooshin, anoo yar markaan ka soo baxay ashaca
shaqaalaha magalada ka shaqeeyo dhani waxay ahaayeen xabashi. 19999 mar aan ku noqday waxaan arkay in kasto dadku gumaysi ay ku jiraan waxyaalo badan oo isbedel ku dhacay oo ah dadka dowlada u shaqeeya oo dhami waa Soomali, maxkamadaha af Soomali ayaa lagu wadaa, maamulka kale af soomali ayuu ku socdaa. Arrimahaa waxaan u arkaa arrimo guulo ah oo ay tahay in lagusii fara-adaygo. Dalkaaga way fiican-tahay in aad dagaal ku xoraysatid hadii aad awoodeeda leedahay. Soomalidu waxy tidhaahdaa salad walba sacadeeda ayaa la tukadaa. Qiyaadad ONLF dagaalka ay wadaan wax natiija ah oo ka soo hooyeen majiraan. Qiyaadada ONLF waxayna garanayayn in xukumada Tigree-gu ka gadisantahay xukumadii amxaarada. Nimanka maanta Itoobiya ka taliyaa muhimadooda kobaad waa horumarinta gobolkooga Tigree. Cida ay iska ilaalinayaan in ay xukunka ka qadaan waa Amxaaro iyo Oromo. Shacbiga Soomali-Galbeed ee aaan Ogaadeenka aheyn waxay garteen wax Ogaadeenku usan garan in Tigreega aan laysku soo jeedin waqtigan xaadirka ah ee wadinnimada Soomaliyeed ay diciifka tahay ee Tigree.ga laysku dhaafo in ay isku-dhacaan Amxaaro iyo Oromo.
Waqtigii uu Mangist Joogay ma jirin jabhad dagaal ku jirta oo ONLF.Ragga maanta leh waxaaa-nahay qiyadada ONLF waxay ku jireen dowldii soomaaliyeed
oo waxay ku raaxaysan jireen guriyihii booli-qaran ee xafada madina ku yaalay. Maanta iyagoo og in aysan surtagal aheyn in gumaysiga Tigreega in jahad lala galaa ayey shacbiga Soomali-galbeed gaar ahaan qabiilka Ogaadeenka ay keenayyaan in cidamada Tigreegu gumaadaan . Nimankan leh madax ayaan ka nahay Onlf reerahoogu oo dhan waxay u joogaan North.America iyo Europe.

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yournightmare araweelo

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 06:27 am
Yaw areweelo
Don't u have anything else to do. i know like u, u r f... wet pussy asso. get a life. did ogaden guy dumbded U. if u want to talk to ogade guy talk to him in a person.
R u trying to us those Qotu people r somalis, u whom i am talking about. Jigjigos, Diredawa People, ashiaos, they are all qotues. Don't u know that qotues used to rape the somalis girls in front of their brothers, and their brothers couldn't say even a word. Don't u know, u guys used to bowl the Amharoj like they r ur lord.
the people i mentioned above are all "cold blood".
they can't even talk to xabashoj. r u guys trying to be somalis now. What was ur name before 1992. may be Baqalej and ur brother name was selamoon.
tell the world the truth.
don't think i don't know u.

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ARAWEELO

Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 02:17 pm
To: Nightmare,
This website is not to insult people but to exchange views. You are hardly polite to address me these vulgarly words. I doubt you are Somali because a somali can not dare to depict his compatriots as habashas. I am allergic to the name Ethiopia let alone to be Habashiyad.

What you have written attests that you are culturally unsomali.

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QOLAAB

Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 12:08 pm
Ayaan darada dadka Soomali-Galbeed haysata waxy-tahay nimanka hormoodku u ahi ama indheergaradkoogu ma kasayaan waxa ay rabaan.
nimankan hada xukumada Itooboiya gacanta maamulkeega ku hayaa halgananka waxay bilaabeen 1975 waxayna gulaysteen 1991 bishii may. Inta ay halganka ku jireen waxay lahaaayeen barnaamij cad oo qeexaya waxa ay rabaan. Sidoo kale Eritriyana sidaa kale ayey ku guulaysteen.Nimanka hada isku sheegaya in ay yihiin indheergaradka ama hormoodka Soomali-Galbeed ama dad siduu u yaqaano Ogaden wax barnaamij oo cad waligood ma samaysan. Hadaad la shaykaysatid qaraakood waxay ku dhahayaan waxaan rabnaa in aan dowlad madaxbanaan noqono kuwa kalan waxay dhahyaan in aan Soomali-weyn ku birnaan rabnaa.Jabhadda Tigreega oo halgankeedu ka dambeeyey kan Soomali-Galbreed ama ogaden wuxuu u gulaystay oo Soomali-Galbeed Guul-u-soo hooyon wayday waxay tahay indheergaradka Soomali-Galbeed waxay u haysteen markii ay Soomaaliya ku sugnaayeen in aye ka maarmeen Qabridahar Jig-Jiga. Dhagax Buur, sagag, Dhagaxmadow, Imay. Qoraxay Goday Iyo Magaalooyin farabadadan OO Soomali Galbeed ah oo waxaa Ilowsiiyey babaygii iyo Muuskii Xamar. dadka Soomali-galbeed waxay ogaadeen in ay soomaliya marti ku ahaayeen 1991 markii u qarankii soomaliyeed burburay oo xataa dadkii Soomaaliya u dhashay ay u baqooleen magalooyinkii ay ku dhasheen. Ujeedadan aan arrinta kor ku xusan u sheegayaa waxay tahay Soomali-Galbeed in aysan xoroobin waxaa sabab u ah indheergaradkeena ka seexday waqtigii ay Malaze Zanawi iyo xulafadiisi ay ku jireen halganka. Bal fiiri xaguu Joogay Maxamed Cumar Cusmaaan oo hada ah Hogaamiyaha ONLF
1975. MARKAAS WUXU AHAA ABAANDULAHA CIDAMADA MARIINKA EE sOOMAALIYEED. mAXAMED cUMAR cISMAAN TUSAALE UUNBAA U SOO QADANAYAA DANBIGA IN LAGA SEEXDAY GAYIGEENA sOOMALI-gALBEED AMA SIDA DADKA QAARKII U YAQAANIN oGADEN WAXAA KU EDAYSAN INDHEERGARATADEEN OO DHAN MACAL ANING.

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Indhacaro

Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 03:55 pm
To: Qolaab
hal su'aal ayaan kuwaydiiyay, ruuxa Baniaadmiga ahu makabixii karaa meeshii uu kadhashay, oo hadana maku soonoqonkaraa???
walaal imasa hogaamiye ayaa ilaa 30 sano kamaqnaa wadankoodii oo maantana madax ka ah.
Shaqsuga Bini aadmigu ahu awoodu isagu ma uuleeyahay in uu meeshuu doono wax kanoqdo oo isaga kartidiisa kuxidhan.
Ruuxu walaal hadii isagu kartid uu leeyahay meeshuu doono ayuu hogaamiya kanoqon karaa qasaba ma'aha in TUULADII UU KUDHASHAY MADX KANOQDO.
Kofi Anan marka uu eega jagada kadago waatan UN ee mawaxaa la'odhankaraa wadankaaga hogaamiye kamanoqonkaritid maadaama aad meelkale hogaamiye ka aheyd.
saaxiib waad hurudaadee ee hurdada marka hore kakac. Hada saaxiib waxaa lagaadhay wakhti aan lagu xisaabtamin ruuxu xaguu kudhashay iyo xaguu tagay, iyo meel habla maxuu kasooqabtay markii uu kunoolaa, hada waxaa lagujiraa yaa hurumar igaadhsiin kara oo karti leh.
Mida kale in ruux Lamagac dhabo waa Khalad saaxiib, waa sida ay aniga ilathaay, waa hadii aad wax garad tahay. Bal intaad ONLF iyo hogaamiyaheda iska dhaafto adiga inta figradaada kugu raacsanba bal isku daya in aad keenten fikarad kawanaagsan tooda, oo wax noqda, afbilaash ah la imaanina meel kasta ee.
Dadku Bini aadmigu ahu waxa uu yiraahdaa aan wax isku darsano ee madhaho waxaaga marka aad soo shaqeeyso aan kulaqaybsado.
By the way i am not ONLF member but I am Ogaden.

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TIRFAC

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 08:55 am
QOLAAB

WAAN KUU JAWAABI LAHAA LAAKIIN BOQOL WAXYAABOOD AYAAD ISDHEX YAACISAY.

QOFKU MARKUU ARRIN KA HADLAYO QODOB QODOB AYUU U SOO QAATAA SI AY UGU FUDUDAATO DADKA DOONAYA INAY ODHAAH KA DHIIBTAAN.
MA TIGRAYGAAD DOONI INAAD KA HSDASHO?, MA SHACABKA REER OGADENIA? MA ONLF IYO BARNAAMIJKEEDA
MA SHAKHSIYAAD?.

SXB RUUXU MARKUU DOODAYO WAA INUU SI CILMIYAYSAN U HADLAA WAXAAD DOONTO LAYSKAMA QORE.
KALANA SAAR BARNAAMIJ AMABA MABDA' IYO WIXII FULIN LAHAA.

KALA SAAR RUN IYO BEEN
KALA GARO SIR IYO CAAD
IN SALAADU WALIGEED
KALA TAHAY SUUNIYO FARAL
U OGOW SAX IYO MAAN

TIRFAC

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Abi QAni

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 10:16 pm
marka hore waxaad iga hanataan salaan.

midaas markaan ka gudbo, bal aan arimahan waxyar fikradayda ka dhiibto, inkastoon meshan ku cusbahay, anana wada akhrinin wax yaabaha uu dad waynuhu qorey, lakiin intaan akhriyey waxaad moodaa in aad si fiican u hadlaysaan, mid mid mooyee, midkaasna waa iska hagaagi doonaa, lakiin haloo nasteexeeyo, si cilmiyeysana wax haloogu sheeko,
sxbyaal umada Soomaaliyeed ee ku dhaqan,
dalka Ogaadenia, waa loo wada baahanyahay, waxaa jirtay maahmaah soomaaliyeed oo odhanaysa farkaliyu fool ma maydho, gacmo wada jirbay wax ku goyaan, lakiin waxaa mesha ku jirta sidee baan ku midoobi karaa?

hada waxaa dhulkeena ka jirta Jabhad la magac baxday onlf. waxaana sameeyey Ogaaden una badan, marka walaalayaal, hadii aad tihiin umada Soomaaliyeed ee dhulkaas ku dhaqan, ma haboona in aan dhaliil uun la soo taagnataan, lakiin waxaa haboon in aad idinkuna Jabhad kale samaysaan, markii ay dagaalanto, una dagaalanto xorraynta dhulkooda, ha utageen walaalahooda kale markaas haka wada hadlaan, sidii ay wax iskugu darsan lahayeen, lakiin nin aan waxba haynin dagaala ku jiran ma haboona in uu dhaliil, aflagaado u soo jeediyo walaalahooda dagaalamaya, hadii uusan wax kale u taraynin afkiisa uun haka haysto ragaa Jihaadka ku jira, isna danbiga ha iska ilaaliyo.

balse waa mid meesha ku jirta midnimada umada Soomaaliyeed ee ku dhaqan dhulka Ogaadeniya.

hadalka oo gaaban, markii aan wax isku darsano, ayaan wax wada qabsi iyo xornimo helaynaa.

Asalaamu calaykum

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QOOLAAB

Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 12:48 pm
Indhocaro,
Soomalidu waxay ku maahmaaahda hubsiimo hal baa lasiistaa. marka hore hay dhaliiline fikradayda dhuux. Qoraalkayga guntiisu wuxu ahaa halganka Soomali-Galbeed sababaha uu la fashilmay taa soo aan ku tilmaamay in aan ka seexanay dalkeena oo aan u qaadanay Soomaliya in ay tahay hogeenii lamahuraanka aheyd. Soomaliya waa inalugu soo dhaweeeyey oo ajanib kumaynaan aheyn balse taasi waxay inoo keentay in carigeenii aan hilmaano.
Waxaa ka yaabay aqoontaada gaaban markaad tusaale u soo qaadatay Kofi anan. Kofi Anan oo nin reer Ghana ah oo dalkiisa magac iyo maamus u keenay markii loo dortay Xoghayaha U.n-ta magacaaso ka wayn nin kastoo u noqda Madaxweyne Ghana. Maxamed Cumar Cismaan Admiraalnimadii uu Soomaliya ka noqday maxay faaida ah oo shacbiga Soomali-Glabeed u keentay? Waxaa u fiicnaan lahay in uu noqdo Yasir Carafaad oo kale intuu Soomaliya Admiraal u noqon lahaa. Maanta maxuu ka hayaa admiraal nimadiisii wuxuu qaxooti ka yahay cariga Ingriiska. Markaad laeedahay shakhsi yaan wax laga sheegin maskaxdaada waxaa ku duuxan fikrada ah kaligii-talinimo oo lid ku ah dimoqraadiyada iyo hadal xorta ah. Nin kastoo isku tilmaamaha in uu mansab u hayo ummadda waxbaa laga sheegi ee sida u ogsoonow. Qoraalkaaguwuxuu u dhacayaa nin qabiil difaac ah. Waxba difaac ha noqon ee waxaaad ka jawaabtaa sabata ay i nooga hormareen jabhada xornima dirirka ahaa sida Eritrea iyo kuwa kalab inagoo halgankeenu ka horeeyey.
Soomalida ayaa ku maahmaahda nin dad qaaday xubo cuskay.Fadlan waxba Qabiil difaac ha noqon ee dhamaanteen hadaan nahay Soomali-Galbeed waan fashilanay oo waan ka seexanay dalkeena hadan kuwa isku-tilmaamayaa in ay dal xoraynayaan waxay isku haysaan anaa laan dheera ak qabiil reer Cabdule iyo adaa ina gumeeda oo ah cali-Wanaag.

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Indhacaro

Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 02:45 pm
To: QOlaab
horta waan kuslaamay marka hore. horta ninyahaw anigu waxba kudhimahayo ama anigu aan cilmiyaraado which is true ama aan tusaale xumaado ama aan hurdo adigase hal su'alaa marka aad iiga soo jawaabto ayaan kusiin Jawaabta articalkan iyo su'aalaha aad latimid.
su'aasheeydu waa sidan
Waxa aad iikala saarta Somaliya iyo SomaliGalbeed?? Hadii aan somaliya ajniba kuahayn maxaa inagadhigay somaligalbeed oo magacansomaliyeed ingau raray"hadii aanba laguu ogalyn"?? SomaliyaWiqooye ajnibe kumahayn ee somali-gablbeeda aad sheegan maxaa kadhigay Ajnibi??
Marka aan islafahano Macnaha somalinimida ayaan doodikaraa oo aan wax iskaga jawaabikaraa.
intakahoreeysa ismadhaafno.

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Indhacaro

Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 02:55 pm
To:Qolaab
wax yar ayaan kaailaaway saaxiib ama somalinimo kudood oo ogolaw dadkii somaliya wax kasoonoqday in aan eed lasaarin oo somalida kale ay lamid ahayn ama sida dadkale ogolaw in ay somaliyana somaliya tahay Ogadenia Ogadenia tahay..
Lama arag hal wadan oo 20 xuduudood leh!!!!
nabaday

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KALAMAAN

Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 01:19 am
MA-DHALANE DHOWRTAYSAN OGGA!hADUU OGADEEN RABO
IN UU GUMAYSIGA TIGREE-GA KU BADALO GUMAYSI
OGAADEEN TAASI WAA HAL-BACCAAD LAGU LISAY.
cULIMADA AQOON BULSHADEEDKA LEH WAXAY IFIYAAN
IN DADKA BERALAYDA AHI KA ILBAXSAN-YAHAY REER-
GUURAAGA. hADABA QABIILKA OGAADEEN OO AH DAD
REER GUURAA AH WAXAA KA ILBAXSAN DADKA KALE
SOOMALI-GALBEED EE BERALAYDA AH IYAGAN HORMOOD
U NOQON KARA XORNIMADA SOOMALI-GALBEED UNA
JAJABAN FAHMINTA WADANIMADA.HALGANKA SOOMALI-
GALBEED WUXUU U FASHILMAYE WAXAY TAHAY SIAD-
BARRE OO OGAADEENKA REER-ABTI U AHAA AYAA DAD
REER GUURAA AH WAA OGAADEENKA AH OO AAN
XORNIMADA WAXBA KA-GARANAYN AYAA HORMOOD UGA
DHIGAY XORNIMADOONKA SOOMALI-GALBEED DADKII
SOOMALI-GALBEED EE BERALAYDA AHAA EE ILBAXDA
AHAANA CABUDHIYEY OO KA CAAGIYEY IN AY JABHADA
KAALIN HORMOODNIMA AH KA QAATAAN.

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KW

Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 05:57 am
Saaxiib halkaas waxa aad kasheegtay dadka aad kumagacawday in ladhaho somali_gelbeed in ay yihiin dad liita oo aan wax qabsan karin. Hadii ay yihiin dad lacabudhinkaro oo raali ka in sidii ladoono loogu talinikaro hadee beerahooda aad ku amaani ha iska abuurtaan oo kola Ogaden iyo xulafada uu wato Hacabudhiyo Kola Tigree. Marka aad dad Noqotaan oo aad wax iska dhicinkartaan oo noqotaan dad Cadkood aan si dhib yar loogu saqajaamin Kaalinta Ceelaka soogala.
Midakale Qooska somali ku abitirsada ee aan reer Guraa ahayn Wa'ayo waa marka Runta Lagahadlayo.
Sida aad u ogtahayna ruuxa Miyaga Kukora iyo ruuxa magaalada ku kora waxaa had jeer kafirfircoon kan miyaga kudhasha kana masuuliyad horqaadi og. Adookale waan aqaanaa kuwii iyaga oo sodon jir ah maamadood dhihiritay habla hooyo wiilka uqabee ayaad tahay. Marka wax lawaydiiyana dhihi jiran aniga ciyaal aan ahay maamaday hala waydiiyo.
Nacasnimada dadka ladhaaf.

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DHANTOOLE

Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 08:58 am
dhamaan iga hantiya salaan.

maxaa iga danbeeyey , walle Ogaaden caydiisii ayaa laga dhamaan la,ayahay, war waxaas ka baxa oo ka hadla sidii aan wax u wada qabsan lahayn iwm.


waad salaamantihiin.

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QOLAAB

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 06:38 am
Dadbaa markay wax akhrinayaan aan dhuuxin qoraalka. Qoraalkayga kuma qorin in Soomali-Galbeed ajaanib ku aheyd Soomaliya. Sidaad la socotid Dastuurka Soomaliya waqtigii Dowladihii shacbiga ahaa iyo kii Siad Barre-ba mowaadinimada Soomalidu waxay ku dhisnayd mid dhiig. Hadaad fikrad ka haysatid muwaadinimada dalalka aduunku waxay u kala baxdaa laba: Mid dhuleed oo dalalka aduunku u badan-yihiin iyo mid dhiig oo dalal dhowar ahi aye ku dhaqmaan sida Soomalidu markay
lahayd dowlada. Dadka Soomali-Galbeed ee ku sugnaa
Soomaliya ee jagooyinka sare ka gaadhay khaladkay sameeyeen waxaa weeye in jagooyinka ay Soomaliya ka heleen uma adgeesan sidii ay dalkooga ku xorayn laahaayeen. Fiiri ninka Paul Kigama la yidhaa ee manta Madaxweynaha cariga Rwanda ka ah wuxuu heshiis la galay Masavin oo ah in xukumada Ugandha ka talin jirtay in ay xukunka ka-wada-qaadaan dabadeedna ay Ugandha taageerto sidii loo xorayn looga xorayn lahaa Hutu-ga. Nimanka jagooyinka sare ka qabtay Soomaliya oo dhamaantood ahaa Ogaaden sida taliyaha Booliska, Taliyaha cidanka mariinada iiyo wasiirka gashaan dhiga Siad Barre wax heshiis ah oo lagu xoraynayo Soomali-Galbeed oo ay la galeen majirin sida uu sameezyey Paule Kigame

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QOLAAB

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 06:38 am
Dadbaa markay wax akhrinayaan aan dhuuxin qoraalka. Qoraalkayga kuma qorin in Soomali-Galbeed ajaanib ku aheyd Soomaliya. Sidaad la socotid Dastuurka Soomaliya waqtigii Dowladihii shacbiga ahaa iyo kii Siad Barre-ba mowaadinimada Soomalidu waxay ku dhisnayd mid dhiig. Hadaad fikrad ka haysatid muwaadinimada dalalka aduunku waxay u kala baxdaa laba: Mid dhuleed oo dalalka aduunku u badan-yihiin iyo mid dhiig oo dalal dhowar ahi aye ku dhaqmaan sida Soomalidu markay
lahayd dowlada. Dadka Soomali-Galbeed ee ku sugnaa
Soomaliya ee jagooyinka sare ka gaadhay khaladkay sameeyeen waxaa weeye in jagooyinka ay Soomaliya ka heleen uma adgeesan sidii ay dalkooga ku xorayn laahaayeen. Fiiri ninka Paul Kigama la yidhaa ee manta Madaxweynaha cariga Rwanda ka ah wuxuu heshiis la galay Masavin oo ah in xukumada Ugandha ka talin jirtay in ay xukunka ka-wada-qaadaan dabadeedna ay Ugandha taageerto sidii loo xorayn looga xorayn lahaa Hutu-ga. Nimanka jagooyinka sare ka qabtay Soomaliya oo dhamaantood ahaa Ogaaden sida taliyaha Booliska, Taliyaha cidanka mariinada iiyo wasiirka gashaan dhiga Siad Barre wax heshiis ah oo lagu xoraynayo Soomali-Galbeed oo ay la galeen majirin sida uu sameezyey Paule Kigame

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Indhacaro

Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 04:39 pm
walaal waxaa aan filayaa kaligaa in aad qoraalada dhuuxdo.
hada mawaxa aad ku soo gabagabaysay hadaladaadii oo dhan in ay ahayd in somaaliya munaafaqnimo lagula dhaqmo, oo been lagu wadanoolaado.
midakale macnuhu ma'aha in loojawaabo sida aad adigu rabto, ruux walba waxa uu leeyahay aragti gaar ah, si guudna wax wuu ooga jawabi karaa, si gaar ahna wax waa ooga jawaabi karaa. khasab ma'aha in uu qofku maro qodobka aad adigu waydiisay, waxa uu ooga jawaaba karaa si dadban isaga oo kaaga jawabayaa su'aashaadii. marka waxa ay ku xidhan tahay adiga iyo akhristayaasha kale sida ay u fahmi lahaayeen ruuxu jawaabta uu bixin hayo.
ruux jawaab khald ah bixiyaa waa yaryahay, ruuxba jawaabtiisa meel ayuu lafiirsadaa, waa jiraan dad meelkale u qaada jawaabta laakiin iyaga qudhigood waxa ay u jawabaan sida ay u qaateen su'aasha.
Taas oo ay kuxidhantahay qofka sua'aasha bixiyay sida uu u faahfaahiyo oo dadka u fahansiiyo, oo clear ooga dhigo. bal intaad dib oogu noqoto qoraaladaadii, bal waxa aad qortay wax isku mid ah in ay yihiin iyo inkale fiiri.
u danbaytii aniga indhacaro ahaan mafilayo in aad qoraalo lafahmi karo sameeyso, laakiin waxaa laga yabaa in ay dadbadani iga fikrad duwanyiihiin oo si kale u arkaan, sidii aan horayb usoo sheegay. marka aniga jawaab u celintaadii qoraalkan ayeey iga dhantahay.
Nabaday

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ONLF

Tuesday, February 06, 2001 - 12:45 am
waxay soomaalidu ku mahmaahadaa xoolahaba sumadaa lagu baadi soocaa markaa haday onlf tahay sumAD LAGU RAADINAAYO XOOLIHII LOMAY WAR MAXAA IDINKU DIRAY NIMAN YAHAW. MIDA KALE NIMAN KIINA SHEEGANAYA SOOMAALI GALBEED WAA SHEEKADII MAXAMED SIYAAD BARE OO KALE YAAD WADAAN WAAN HURUDAANE NIMAN YAHAW TOOSA OODEE MAATA MA AHA AARGOOSIYE WAA DAGAAL LAGAGA SOOHOR JEEDO CADAW. MARKA AAN LEE YAHAY MA AHA AARGOOSI WAX AAN KA HADALYAA . NIMANKA DABA TAAGAN MAJIWAAQ OO MAALIN JABAY BAA JEER LAGAA HELIN IYO NIMANKA DABA TAAGAN WAXUU KU SAMEYSAY DAWLADII HORE EESOOMAALIYA. WAR WAXAAS OODHAN INTAAD ISKA DAYSAAN KASOO QAY QAATA HALGANKA WA ASALAAMU CALAYKUM WARAXAMTULAAHI

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GALBEED

Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 08:39 am
anigu waxaan ku odhan lahaa haisku xero,oodin inta yar ee saxara,ah Dhagax buur iyo Qabdahare iyo shilaabo iyo godeey, ayaad leedahay ee kutasho intaa kadib baynu kawad hadli doonaa macnaha soomaali galbeed iyo faa iidada aykuuleedahay adi ahaan.

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Herageel

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 10:48 pm
Waxaan filayaa inaynaan wali fahmin macnaha u dagaalan meel iyo ka dagaal meel waxay aniga ila tahay hadii qabiil wax lag qaban maxamed siyaad bare ayaa ku qaban lahaa waa tii uu adeegsaday magac daarood oo dhan hayaraadaan hana bataan inta raacsanayd laakiin maxay maanta dhigtay dadka soomaali sheegta ee intaas oo sanadood dawlad ahaan jirey maanta xageebay ku danbeeyeen.

Hadaba runtu waxay tahay waa inaan meel kasoo wada jeedsano oon aayaha gobolkeena kawada fikirno oon meel uga soo wada jeedsano.

Hadii kale oon nidaa anigu waxaan u dagaalamayaa magaca ogaadeeniya ama magaca itixaad ama magaca liiga waxaas oo dhami waa wax maanta tigree oon naqaano urta ka soo yeedhi markaad agjoogsato uu hablaheenii bilaa sharaf ku wasaayo uu aydhskii ku jirayna ku reebayo tii diida ee diinta islaamka ku toosnaatana meel ay martay lawaayay sida wiilasheenii qaaliga ahaa ee dhalinyaradii loo waayay meel ay maanta ku danbeeyeena aan lagaranayin.

Hadaba waxa iswaydiin mudan masidaa uun baan waligeen ku jiraynaa oon aduunka hostage ugu ahaanaa kolba kii adis ababa qabsada oon dabada u dhiganaa si uu inoo waso mise intaan baraarugno ayaan aayaheena meel uga soo wada jeedsanaa oon diinteenii macaanayd ee islaamka intaan ku toosnaano oon Alle talo saarano nidhaanaa walaalo oon gacmaha isqabsanaa oon cadaw geena iyo ku aan dhalnay ee ay dabada kasoo wasayaan ee ay inagu soo dirayaan ee malin walba qof qaali ah laynaga qaadayo meel uu ku danbeeyana aan lagaranay uun baan sidaa inaguna hadala aan loo fadhiyin iyo gobolka ogaadeen baale ama malaha waligeenba isku haysanaa.

Waa nasiibdarada haysata dadka ku abtirsada magaca soomaali layidhaa meel uu joogaba waayo marka ay umadi tidhaahdo Alle ayaan rumaynay hadana hoosta layska wada neceb yahay waxay taas keeni cadho xaga Alle ah oo ah ta maanta soomali dadka layidhaahdo haysata.

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abdi22

Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 05:32 am
erayo macne leh kuhadal. marka aad rabto in wax wanaagsan laga hadlo waxaa la iska ilaaliya erayada cayda ah. "dabada udhignaa si uu inoowaso" sheeko ciyaalnimada iska daa. oo sidii nin wayn oo wax garad ah u hadal.
nadbay

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ogadeen

Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 05:39 am
Mr.dalal magan warfaa Nin rag ah ayaad tahay saaxiib wax usheeg waxan.
waryaa gaadsan ma markii aan kaasoo caydhiyay meshii aad oola baxday "Nusdariiq gaadsan" ayaad kusoocarrtay meeshan. fulay, fulay dhalay saas ayaan waligay kaag adkahay, hadaa nin rag ah tahay maxaa ooga soo carartay meeshii caadada inoo ahayd labadeena.
ogaw waligay meesha aad tagtaaba aniga ayaa kukorsaaran ee.
u r ai'n gonna get away from me yaw.
mother •••• bastered
ibb

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Herageel

Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 05:56 pm
Waxaan Layaabanahay marka aan runta isku sheegno een waxaan nahay isa sheegno ayaan nidhaahnaa qofkaasi meel kale ama waxbaa si ka ah waa yaabe goormaan runt iski sheegidoonaa oon xaqiiqadu waxay tahay ka dhawaajin doonaa oon garan doona macnaha ay xanbaarsan tahay.

Waxaan layaabay walaalkay abdi22 wixii aan intaas oo dhan kasoo hadlay wuxuu kasoo qaatay oo qudha inta xun ee dadkeenu ku sugan yihiin markaan runta ka sheegay hadba waxaan odahn lahaa runtu dadk ma dishee way ka nixisaa waayo waxaa lagartaa beenta iyo qiiqa laysku qarinaayo oo lama rabo in aan runtu waxay tahay ka warkeeno oon sheegno.

Hababa ilaa inta aan sidaa uun ku jirno ogow qofkasta oo inaga mid ah in maalin uun axmaaro ama xabashi injir leh uu kaqaadan waxii xaqiisa ah oo uu xoog inagu muquunin doono ee halawada ogaado nasiib daradu waxay inaga haysataa dhinaca nolosha fahankeeda oo aynaan marana waxay tahay famin hore iyo gadaalba intaan sidaa isku haysano ee uu midba kan kale leeyahay anaa meesahn leh iyo adigu malihid xabashina si heer-sare ah hawgu raaxaysto xoolaheena dhulkeenuna sidaa how hurumar la'aado waligiiba ilaa iyo saacada qiyaamadu ka dhacayso.

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Anonymous

Friday, February 16, 2001 - 02:08 pm
walaalayaalow cayda maad iska daysaan ,gaadsan soo niman soomaaliyeed ma aha run ahaantii kaa hadal yar kaana xabad kulul ee maad islaamka iska daysid. war hadaan jidwaaq ahay walaalkiin baan ahay ee islaamka amaan aan sii no wadanka midnimuu ubaahanyahay haduu xuruubo adigaa u cod badane oy maslaxad kuugu jirtaaye dhibka haladaayo.