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SomaliNet Forum (Archive): Warar iyo Ogeysiis News and Notices: Archive (Before mar. 3, 2001): Star Tribune's Article on Somali people's mental health!
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MOHAMED

Monday, February 12, 2001 - 09:33 am
Have you read this article?
http://startribune.com/st/qview.cgi?template=metro_a&slug=soma12

If yes, do you think this is true?

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Yusuf remembers persuading one woman to come to the clinic for an appointment. She had no transportation, so Yusuf offered to pick her up at 9 o'clock. But the woman, a nomad, had no concept of time that is determined by a clock. In Somalia, he might have told her, "I'll pick you up when the goats are to be let out of the corral." Or "I'll pick you up when the sun is right about here."

"By the love of God, I could think of no way of explaining to her what I meant by 9 o'clock," Yusuf said, throwing up his arms at the memory of his frustration.
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Or this
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Before the war, a Somali person in a troubled state typically would not visit the local clinic for a mental-health diagnosis and dose of antidepressants. A troubled person, along with his family, would visit the Muslim sheikh. Verses of the Qur'an, the sacred book of Islam, would be read and symbolically "spit" into a bowl of water. The troubled person would drink the holy water, receiving the verses into his body. Qur'anic verses would be rolled in leather and worn as a pendant around the neck.
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Anyone who reads this article would think that Somalia is a jungle with no hospitals or health professionals!

To Somalis in Minneapolis: Is there anyone in your city who can't understand the basic time like 9:00 in the morning?

What's next? Maybe another article about how Somalis use their living rooms!

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concerned

Monday, February 12, 2001 - 10:26 am
I am not from minneapolis but that's totally absurd. I read this with my non-somali co-workers and it took me some time to convince them that the informants lied big time. Every body who reads this article will get a false picture about Somalis.

I hate when some Somalis lie about their own people just to get interviewed by the mass media. What a hypocrisy! Lying about your people wil never make you different from other Somalis.

I thank Allah that this newspaper is read only in the twin cities.

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Anonymous

Monday, February 12, 2001 - 10:53 am
waa war la buunbuuniyey. I really feel sorry for Somali refugees in MN. it is not the first time this news-paper lied about Somalis in MN. We all remember when this paper claimed that somalis send millions of dollars to Somali warlords! Maybe it is because negative atricles about Somalis sell the paper which means the people love to hear about this kind of publicity.

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warsame

Monday, February 12, 2001 - 12:39 pm
well, afka hooyo aan ku hadlo.

hadii lagu wareysto wax ku saabsan somalida
wax fiican ku jawaab.
soomalida meelahaas ku nool mar dhow waxay
noqon doonaan ummad aan dhaqan iyo luuqad
lahayn, maalintaas aad luuqad la,aan noqotaan
iyo dhaqan la,aan ayaad ogaaneysaan
dhibaatada,

kuwa waxaas kula hadlayo saxaafadda meelaha aad
degentihiin bal dadka madow oo idiinkaga
horeeyey north america maanta waxay dib u
raadinayaan meesha awowgiis laga soo afduubey.

mid yiraahdo aniga i am from gambia .
mid yiraahdo i am from senegal.
mid yiraahdo am from south africa.
so and so.

dhaqankeenu miyi iyo magaalo ba wuu leeyahay.
orodoo texas tak badiyaheeda maxaad u maleyneysaa
in aad la kulmi doonto
makula tahay in laga helayoo kuwa somalida
aad ka sheekeyseen ku wa ka daran in ay joogaan.

africa kuwa aan maqlin baa jooga.
kuwa waxaa jooga usa imisa state bey tahy
aan garaneynin.

hadabo aniga lama yaabayo waana ku faani lahaa
yusuf isagu muxuu yahay, somali ma aha.

yusuf ma gaal germal ahbaa.
yusuf ma irish khansiir ka dhergaa.
yusuf dhaqanka somalida ma garanayo.
yusuf xaguu ku dhashay .

yusuf xataa haduu xamar weyne ku dhashay
wuu yaqaan dhaqankiisa, muxuu gacmaha
u sayrinayaa.

somalida meeshaa deggan aad sheegeyso
maxaad u weydiineysaa adiga se maxaad iskaga
dhigeysaa qof aan dhaqankiisa garaneynin,
walaalow inteed ka timid ?

walle idinka oo qaxooti waxaad ku socotaan
nation without language and culture.

maxaadse halkaan u soo dhigtey.
maad ka hortagtaan that newspaper.

i fell sorry for you qaxooti.

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LATALIYE

Monday, February 12, 2001 - 12:56 pm
Does anyone know this dude called yusuf? Because of him all Somalis in Minneapolis are rumored to prefer taking Sheik's saliva as medicine.

Somalis will be seen as nomadic tribes who don't even use the date and time although Somalia had one of the highest literacy rate in developing countries since 1974 when Siad Barre tried to eliminate illiteracy.

Also there are hospitals and mental institutions for mental people.

Somalis, why don't you take Star Tribune to court for defamation and discrimination against law abiding Somali people in the city. That would make a good case even if you don't win at the end!

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Mohamed Ibrahim Nur

Monday, February 12, 2001 - 03:29 pm
Waxaan ku noolahay Seattle, waana kunoolaan jiray MPLS,MN. Run ahaantii markii aan aqriyay artical kan waan jariiracooday, aad iyo aad ayaana uga xumaaday sawirka xun ee Yusuf naga bixiyay hadana waxaan rabaa inaan email udiro joornaalka qoray arintaa oo aan usheego in Yusuf ediot yahay bilaa sababtoo ah run kama sheegin dhaqankiisa ee nimanyahow ninkii garanaayo yusuf meel lagala xiriiro walba aan caayee oo kucaro baabe,ee ha ii soo sheego minxf76@hotmail.com.

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Anonymous

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 12:11 am
saaxiibayaal anigu waxaan deganahay finland, xalay mar aan fiirsanaayey telefishinka waxaa ka socdey dood kulul oo dhexmartay nin finnish ah iyo somali taas oo looga hadlaayey cunsurinimada,waxaa la yaab leh in dadka somalidaa qaarkood iska dhigaan wax aaaney noqon karin.
sida nin somaliya cadaan ma noqon karaa.maya
ninka bixiyey wareysi beena siduu rabaa inuu somali wax ula qeybsado,anniga wexeey ila tahay waa QANIIS OON XUSHMAD KU LEHEYN SOMALI DHEXDEEDA

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abuu-ansaar

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 05:48 am
Soomali Dhuunbaa ku raaceysa iney Beensheegaan, Waxaase layaableh ineysan ku fikirin in haduu runsheego uu heli karo Ajar xag alle ah oo ka badan ka uu gaal ka raadinayo, Nabigeenu wuxuu yiri Beentu waxey qofka ku hanuunisaa fajirnino, Faaajirnimaduna inuu naargalo Rabi hanaga xoreeye e. Marka walaalkeyow Ha sheegin soomali been iyo runba ee ka sheeg waxii aad goobjoog u aheyd Iskan dhaaf Waaaalayiri.

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Mohamed Yare

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 09:32 am
waad salam tihin.Aniga lama yaabayo yusuf iyo waxa
uu qoray sababtoo ah waa mid aad ugu liito dhaqankiisa oo weliba laga yaabo inuusan arkin
magalo somalia ku taal. war miyaa hilmaamnay in is
bitaalo iyo clinic somalia ku taalo, war yusuf miyaad hilmaamto in somalia, lee dahay isbitaal la yiraahdo manakoobiyo, ileen tas ayaa u baahan tahay markaad cayso dadkaga bilaa sabab
ahaan. dhaqankaaga waa inuu ahaado mid aad ku faanto aad na kaga duwaanato dadyawga kale sidas buu alle ku siiyay.

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ali

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 10:17 am
REER MN YAA YAQAANO BEENLOWGAN?

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Weris

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 04:21 pm
Walaalyaalow waxaan idin weeydiiyey Somaaliida soo ma isticmaasho tahliil la caabo iyo xirsi la xirto? Taas ma been ba?
Somalia waxaa ku yaaley hal isbitaal oo dadka waalan loogu talagalay, "lazareetti" oo ku yiil Xamar.
Dadka iyago waalan bay dariiqyadda carari jireen, oo caruurta xaataa turyeen jirtay: jinoole! jinoole! iyagoo ku qaylinaayo. Marka ma waxaad leedihiin reer Minesota inay waxaas ka hadlaan maaha?......................Aniga ma ahi reer Minnesota, lakiin uma arko tahliil iyo xirsi laga hadlay in ayatahay been laga sheegay somalida.

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sahan

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 05:00 pm
Sidan baan u fahmay waxay qoreen Yusuf iyo ... Waa jiraan somali badan oo isku daweysa waxa uu sheegay ee ma ahayn in uu geenral ka dhigo oo dhaho qofka soomaaliyeed .........
Tan kale arinta reer baadiyaha ah waxaan u arkaa inay sax tahay oo reer baadiyaheena asalka ahi ma isticmaalaan saacad boqolkiiba sideetan 80% sidaan u badinayo inkastoo aanan wada arag baadiyaha Soomaaliaya oo aan mudo yar keliya oo fasax ah aan aaday. Waxaadse moodaa arinta inaanay sax saas ah ahayn waayo dadkii reer baadiyaha ee raacayey xoolahooda ma aha kuwa qaxooxiyada ah maanta una malaynmaayo in ay soo qaxeen oo dadka soo qaxay waa dadkii ku bara kacaya magaalooyinka, degmooyinka iyo tuulooyinka.
Waa siday ila tahay aniga.
Mid kalena maskaxda ku haya in Soomaali badan ay ka tageen Soomaalinimadii (intii fiicnayd)oo aaanay intaa ku istaagin ee ayba ka tageen banii'aadamnimadii tas oo ay u geyso aqoon daro, dhuuno qaadasho,madaxjacayl, doqonimo, iyo......

Mahadsanidiin

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warsame

Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 04:19 am
haye iska warrama ,
waa warsame oo mar labaad u soo noqdey arrintaas.
horta waa salaamantihiin,
inta ka dib yaa oran karo qur,aan in laguugu aqriyo daawo kuu noqon maayo.
yaa diidi kara in reer badiyaheena inaaney
waqtigooda saacad ku xirnayn,
ee ay siyaabo badan u habeystaan waqtigood.

sida salaadda maqrib ka bacdi halkaan iigu kaaley.
xoolaha markey soo xeroodaan ka dib aanu isu
imanno. etc,etc,etc.

laakin waxaan idiin xasuusinaa.
lax walba halkey is dhigto ayaa lagu qalaa.
idinkana waxaad noqoteen ama laydiin ka dhigey
af wax cuney xishoo.

wax ka weyn ayaa idiin ku soo socdo.
taas waa aad hadda ka hadleysaan waa sahal.

yusuf isaga waa gadaal ka gaar waa goobdumiye.
oo malaha magaalo ba waxaa ugu horeysey
halkaas.

let me put at this way who yusuf is.

yusuf is ilbaxsharre and he makes this
coz his show manship is to satisfy others


chief edditorka magazinkaas ayaan rabaa inaad
i soo siisaan cinwaanka gurigiisa.

walle mar dambe kelmadda somali soo hadal qaadi maayo.

ok somalis idinkana halkaas aa la idiin ku qalaa.
by.

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Anonymous

Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 01:13 pm
Re: "Is This True"
I am terrified to see this sort of nonesense.This is the sort of fancy and imaginative stories a lot of brained-washed Somalis make up to please their Western partners in the hopes of acceptance and fame.
This nothing short of the reinforcement of the racist comments that find a strong expression in the Western media be it Holy Wood or the like.
While it is true that Somalia is not as developed as most Western countries, yet we have civilization that even the famous Arab Explorer Ibnu Babatu referred to in his book which later was translated into English with the title: "The Adventures of Ibnu Batuta".