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SomaliNet Forum (Archive): Warar iyo Ogeysiis News and Notices: Archive (Before mar. 3, 2001): Somaliland -- What do you think?
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Bucur

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Hi folks

what is your view of Somaliland becoming separate state from the rest of Somalia?.

What are the pro's and cons for it?, what are the facts and lies emanating from advocates and opposers?.

I guess this is sensitive issue-- kind of forbidden fruit, but don't we all have saying. Let us try to do it in good style.

Bucur

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5Farood

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let them do what they want, if they don't want be part of Somalia thats their choice.
For me i'll never go and live in Somaliland beacuse i hate that place therfore if they separate from us thats fine to me

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maydhane

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let me tell you mr 5frood Somaliland is not a part of banadir or a region as you may think it was a soveriegn country before you and it will be for ever .The people of Somaliland have decied their own political and economical future stability while you are still in the darkness i hope you and ask allaah to stand yourself and be a nation like Somaliland who come together talked to each other and solved their differences without interferance from the outside world they wo'nt ask any one to think about. Before you talk about Somaliland let yours be solved and be stable as soamliland did. Somaliland will alway be without fear and favour
maydhane true somalilander!!!!!!!!!

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Waddani

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What are the basis of separating Somaliland from the rest of Somalia? clanism? or the wrong doings of late Siyad Barre?.

If it is clanims, I think it is very wrong reason as clan never makes nation. Also if the people of Somaliland are angry of what Siyad Barre did to them, why do they think they were the only victims of Siyad Barre's atrocities. Why not the Majeerteen's also demand separate nation? or is it that Isaq are hollier than the rest of Somalis. Why are they behaving so militantly while other Somalis are willing to reconcile and forgive what happened yesterday and go on.

Another question, I have heard somebody saying that Somaliland existed as a separate nation way before the Europeans came.Is this a fact or what?.

Some true lights please!

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SmOoThY

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To the Hatter:::5Farood

U ain't nothing but a dumb Fu*cK ..I really feel sorry for you..brotha don't hate cuz that kind of hate for Ur OWN people will take U sta8up..to hell.. fear allah ..we all ONE...

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Timacadde

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Somaliland! What a stupid and ridiculous name.

As one I really have nothing against division of Somalilands into mini clanlands if that is what the people in those lands want, it is their choice any way. But something which can't get into my head and many times makes me even lough loud is the name taken by north Somalia-- "Somaliland". What names should we call the rest of Somalia?. Germanlands? Chinalands or what?

Why can't they just call that part of the country Isaaqland. Every body knows that it is Isaaqland, or are there some kids who do not know out there?. We are Somalis any way and we are butchering each other in the name of clan, so what is the need of disguising it any more.

Is it really so that those British butt-kissers can't do without the names invented by the long gone colonialists who came and divided Somali nomads at their conveinience. The year is 2000 and to me I see no bigger shame and stupid way of separating a nation.

It is good for the few million Somalis to but their part of the world in order and remain united, the alteranitives are very costly!

I love Sahra Ahmed and I can't diggest the thought of her being a foreigner or something!

Timacadde

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ABDIKARIM

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WELL, I THINK IT IS WHAT HOW ANOYING BUT YET A VERY GOOD IDIA. WHY DONT EVERY STATE IN SOMALIA DECIDE THEIR OWN FAITH AND DEAL THE REST OF THE WORLD AS ONE COUTRY? JUST LIKE THE UNITED STATES OR UNITED ARAB EMARATES.AFTER ALL WE ARE ALL THE SAME PEOPLE WITH ONE LANGUAGE,FAITH,CULTURE AND SO ON. IT IS SILLY TO SEE PEOPLE IN ONE COUNTRY WITH SO MANY THINGS IN COMMAN AND YET HATE EACH OTHER SO MUCH.HEY IF INDIA HAS SO MANY LANGUAGES,RELIGIONS AND RACES, AND THEY ARE COUNTRY WHY CAN WE????????
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT!!!!!!!
PEACE TO U ALL..

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Abdi Abakor

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I believe that Somaliland should seprate or the rest of somali, becuase of this the state somali and somaliand will live toghther peacefully.
My advice is we all somalis brothers, we depend each other, we are all muslim. We have to respect each other we are same people but different idea. today both of us need each others you need our help and we need your help too.What we know is Siyad Barre treat some somaliland ethnic groups and destory all thier lives.At time southern somali did't di anything to prevent from the cruel president.

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muudeey

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I think canada have 11 province and 1 teritory,eleven of them are anglophone dicendent and quebec is french ethnic background and they are what we call canada why because of mutual understanding and justice.If i compare somaliland and somalia they are same people who share everythink that any human could share.however,somaliland took their independent and had capapility to form their own goverment but they don't do that because they understood the value of unity among all somali people, unfortunately what they got was general distruction and opression of any kind from dictatorial regime and whole somali were fought for siad bare's goverment regardless of the aim of that dictator.In the case of majertain genocide was very wrong but majaerten is not somaliland and if they want to separate that's their own choice but every society has the right to decide their own future because somaliland was a complete teritorry or in other words a caountry united by other country(south) Iam not wonder if somaliland decided to seperate but if there is real dicussion took place between both sides,and solve what hapen from 1960-91 then there would be victory for both sides. in adition we should not skip the reality because everyone knows what had hapenned and atrocities that took place which somaliland never exept easyly.

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ali

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why should we worry about a piece of land that is desert? i think we need to go on our seperate ways, because they will know finally that they can't be without us. I think, if they decided to seperate let them do so; however, i don't agree that they need to force some people, like sool, sanag and awdal because those people are not in any reason infavorite of seperating from the rest of somalia.

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Somalilander

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Take it easy every body!

Somaliland is gone, you want to be with oss, you are welcome, you dont want to be with oss, then leave oss and go to Somalia and Puntland. You want to start a war between the nation, we know how to defend oss, you want to work with oss, we know how to treat well. Why we are forgeting Puntland? Puntland is a family state today, there is president Abdulahi Yusuf and the whole his capinet. There are ministress in Puntland. Nice felows, why are we telling lies? Puntland is a ••••••• state, There is no arguemet about that, they are very smart pple, they show the rest off somali people that the only somalilanders want to seprate. Who dares to tell me that Puntland is not a ••••••• state? And if not so, willing to move there and want to live?
why cant we see the reality?
Puntlanders will not bring Morgan to court so he can tell what he did to these poor somali people in Hargeisa, they will defend him as long as he lives. puntladers will do the same for Aadan Gabyow too.

When will be piece in Somalia?
Sool and Sanaag, there are somalilander livng there too. We will never accept that any one of uss stay under any ny dectator!!!!!!!
We have the rights to live where we want in the whole Somaliland. And no one will ever tell uss where we belong. You are telling me that i belong the whole Somalia, thanks that is giving me more right to demand the whole Somaliland. That is telling me that i have the rights to be seprate from the rest off Somalia.


Somalilader

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Somalilander

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Take it easy every body!

Somaliland is gone, you want to be with oss, you are welcome, you dont want to be with oss, then leave oss and go to Somalia and Puntland. You want to start a war between the nations (clans) , we know how to defend oss, you want to work with oss, we know how to treat well. Why we are forgeting Puntland? Puntland is a family state today, there is president Abdulahi Yusuf and the whole his capinet. There are ministress in Puntland. Nice felows, why are we telling lies? Puntland is a family state, There is no arguemet about that, they are very smart pple, they show the rest off somali people that the only somalilanders want to seprate. Who dares to tell me that Puntland is not a Harti state? And if not so, willing to move there and want to live?
why cant we see the reality?
Puntlanders will not bring Morgan to court so he can tell what he did to these poor somali people in Hargeisa, they will defend him as long as he lives. puntladers will do the same for Aadan Gabyow too.

When will be piece in Somalia?
Sool and Sanaag, there are somalilander livng there too. We will never accept that any one of uss stay under any ny dectator!!!!!!!
We have the rights to live where we want in the whole Somaliland. And no one will ever tell uss where we belong. You are telling me that i belong the whole Somalia, thanks that is giving me more right to demand the whole Somaliland. That is telling me that i have the rights to be seprate from the rest off Somalia.


Somalilader

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HILAAC

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Somaliland waa dad danahooda ka tashaday waxaan odhan lahaa reer soomaliya gaadhigu dhaqaaqye yaanu taayirku ku jiidhin.
Saaxiibadeydii reer Hargeysa gaar ahaan xaafadii buurta ee ay kamid ahaayeen
1- cabdilaahi cali ibraahim (GW)
2- cabdi muxumed xirsi (gurey)
3- maxamed nuur baxnaan (ilkacase)
Waa saaxiibkiin C/risaaq axmed nuur (hilaac)ee xagee ka dhacdeen laydunkuma arko internetkee
Hala idin arko saaxiibayaal

from Sydney

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Non-Somalilander

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Somalilander;

Doesn’t surprise me that small minds like you still speau out Clannism and believe Somaliland (aka Dreamland) needs to break-out of Somali proper simply because certain Group who mainly populate certain areas created by the British Colonials wants to consolidate power among themselves (They can’t even agree among themselves to that). What gives???????????????????????????????

Secondly when you say Somalilanders decided to break-away on populous vote, where do you get that BS info?????? Large groups claimed to be within the so-called bounders of Dreamland are totally against the breakaway namely as some one pointed out earlier “ Sool, Sanag, Awdal”.

Third, the so called Puntland mandate is not to break-away put to bring some form of order to that area till the overall country come together, it’s not necessarily for certain Clan as you seem to claim but yes they share Lineage what’s wrong with that????????????????????????????????????

It’s people like u who love bring up the Caracas of afweeneys atrocities to justify the weak logic behind the existence of Dreamland.

Peace

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AnonBig

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Salaamu Caleykum.

Somaliland is an idea so ridiculous and dangerous that it (must) not be allowed to bear fruit. It is an hollow concept that have been fed to the local people in North West Somalia as a direct consequence of the misdeeds of Siyad Barre’s demented regime. There is no disputing that the despot actually carried out gross human rights violations in Hargeysa and other cities of the north but so did he to Mogadishu and other town in the south.

Secondly, Somaliland’s sellers have been peddling a most strange notion; to recall in adorable and lofty terms the fact that they were colonised by the British and to define Somalia boundaries based on past colonial rule! This demonstrates that in the year 2000 there are some Somalis who are mentally and psychologically under colonial rule – a far cry from what we have achieved 40 years ago!

Thirdly, the Somaliland concept is so weak it can not stand any test to determine if it can constitute an independent entity. For starters, not all the people of the region are for separation from Somalia. Only one clan, namely the Isaack, is for secession. The residents of Sool, Sanaag and Awdal are against divorce (except, of course, a few maqaarsaars), for the simple reason that there is no particular reason for doing so. On the contrary the interest of the Sool-Sanaag-Awdal residents is best served by remaining part of Somalia as opposed to being a minority in Somaliland.

Fourthly, there is the OAU charter, which expressly prohibits any fanciful and clan based concept such as Somaliand’s from being realised. The OAU charter was established to safeguard the sovereignty of independent African states from disintegrating into tribal groupings, which has been successfully upheld to date. Need I mention that it this same charter that ironically prevented the unification of the Greater Somalia!

Lastly, the age of secession is gone. Unity is the name of the game. Somaliland or more precisely Isaackland has a role to play in the affairs of Somalia. There is no REASON, in all senses of the word, for them to go.

If ever any one/country recognises Somaliland, that person/country will have forever carry the stigma of having signed the death warrant of not only Somalia but quite a few other countries that are going the Somalia way!

Thanks.

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ab

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Correction. The Last paragraph reads like this:

If ever any one/country recognises Somaliland, that person/country will forever carry the stigma of having signed the death warrant of not only Somalia but quite a few other countries that are going the Somalia way!

Sorry folks.

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Non-Somaliland

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Bravo AnonBig ...we at last agree on one fundamental issue.

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Somalilander

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Folks

Why are you not answering my questions?

It is easy to say then to do!!
Its easy to write about Somaliland but it is deficult to talk about Puntland.

Non somalilander wrote " they share Lineage what is wrong with that?", that means in an other word Puntland belongs only one FAMILY. THAT IS (ONLY ONE FAMILY) WHAT IS WRONG WITH IT.
My question was and is still is, Who is willing to go to Puntland to live there? The anwer is only puntlanders.
Would you accept that we bring Morgan and Adan Gabyow to internationall court in Haag (Holand)?
When somali writer,Nuradin Farah asked to Morgan to these questions, "Why did you (Morgan) treat so bad somali people in Hargeisa" "Do you regret what you did"
Morgan said, "No, i dont regret what i did to them"

I understand that its very sensetive issue for puntlanders to read this statement.
Its over, there is no Somali wayn. Mogdisho belongs to a southeren clan and there is no way that they will let any off you rules again. The war between clans in the south will end one day, and then they wont let any one off you to be a ruler in their area, you may be lucky then if they not coming to Boosaso.
Be ready for invasion in the near future. And the only way is north (Somaliland), we will help you. We always treat our brothers and sisters well, like we do now. You see, how we treat our broth and sisters Gadabursi, Dhulbahante and Warsangali. I think Somalilanders should get a peace price for how they managed to keep peace in there area.

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Nuuh

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AnnonBig.

Wax matarayahow sujuuga ah maxaa ku daba dhigay ninka geeriyooday 5 sano ka hor. Soomaali waxay la heshiin la'dahay waa adiga & Amxaarka kale ee la baxay Yohanis ayaa kala ruufyaamaya, wasaqyahay iska dhacsha Adoonka shaabuuga idinla dhacaya inta aad danaha soomaaliya fara gashaneeysaan.

Maxaaba meesha soo gashay dowlad la riday qanrnigii hore ? muxuuse ahaa issue-ga ama topiga meesha loga hadlayey - waxaad tahay sujuu xun oo qabiil lagu ababiyey ee ka fiirso waxaad leedahay.

Dhamaan :

Soomaaliyeey...miyeeysan 10-kii sano ee la qaxayey waayo aragnimo idiin kordhin?. Wadankiina kuwii joogay qori ayeey baabah isaga dhigeen, kuwii qurbaha usoo firxadayna NET-kii ayeey digo ba'day isaga dhigeen, war Ilaah ka yaaba oo danihiina & aayihiina katashta inta aad ku haysaan somaliland, pundtland, Jubaland, xamarland, Kismaayoland..waa sheekadii jabhadaha. Habar walba waxay la baxday "S" oo utaagan soomaali sida SFP, SSDF, USC,SNM;SNF,Ssssss marka hada waxaa socda modelka " Land" sida aan kor ku sheegayba. Wax ay soomaali ka ogyihiin ma jirto & dan ay uwadaan.

Iga raali ahaada, maanta waa soo dheeraaday, ma jecli meel afaarahan looga hadlayo in aan soo galo

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AnonBig

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Non-Somaliland @ Puntland :- the enemy of my enemy is my ...

Machiavelli huh?


Nuuh, ….hostile to Somali ‘history’…. mmmm seems I touched a raw nerve! Man, how will the future be secured if you have so much antipathy towards the past??? But…… I think you have a point; we might not gain much discussing a dead horse! I will desist. You have my word.

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Reality-check

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Oh Somalilanders

When will you stop crying over the crimes of long dead Siyad Barre and playing the endless victim card?. It getting to the highest point of boredom attracting the laughing flocks.

Siyad Barre did what he did, he killed Somalis including Isaaqs, he destroyed the country...the list goes on and on. But the man is long dead and he is not listening to your cries and lamentations.

Why do you think your dead and destroyed hollier than the rest and Isaaqs were the only victims of Barre's atrocities?

You talk as if Hargeisa and Buroa were the only destroyed places in Somalia. Have you ever heard of the massacres in Mudug in mid 80's when Isaaqs were still kissing Afweyne's butt and singing the victory folks for him. Victims from those days are still and licking their wounds, the differences between them and the crying Isaaqs is that they are behaving themselves, willing to reconcile with the rest of Somalis including those who killed their loved ones yesterday. While Isaaqs are endlessly complaining and blaming everbody that breathes. Shame on you people Somalis and the rest of the world are laughing at you.

Bad things happened to all Somalis in the past, it shouldn't be forgotten but can be forgiven for the sake of moving ahead with our lives. crying doesn't help anybody.

Finally, it is time to feed the hungry kidds, cure them and give them school instead of wasting little resources on guarding non-existing borders between somali brothers and sisters.

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Anonymous

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Just one question: What do you all think should happen with 'somaliland'?

Do you think people there will want a united somalia?

Do you think their justified in the seperation of somalia?

As far as i'm concerned there not one clear cut answer to the whole somaliland issue. On one hand there is no logic behind the fact that people who are no different to each other, should want sepertaion. What I mean by this is the fact that all somalis are the same, we speak the same language, follow the same religon ,etc.

On the other hand, I wasn't in Somalia during the civil war. I did not witness the destruction of home. I never saw anyone killed, just because of their tribe.In a sense i can't really feel the anguish felt by people back home. So who am i to judge them ?

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Wake-up

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Dividing Somalia into small mini-clanlands is in my opinion grave mistake. The whole fuss is emotional without any rational grounds.

Imagine how much money is needed to guard the borders among Somalis whose ultimate survival depends on how easy they can travel among each other and od business together. Poeple in the grassroots are doing the right thin without any complications. They travel all the way from Boorama-Hargeisa-Buroa-Garowe-Galkacayo-Bosaaso, and even to Mogadisho. Only the stupid politicians and some zombies in the diaspora are advocating for clans sentiments and wars.

One of the most stupid acts from so called Somaliland was when they arrested non-political innocent teachers from Puntland, Sanaag and Sool when they have been invited by British NGO for a teacher training for not having visas to enter Somaliland, how can you think of visas ina place where there is no even books and pencils for kids and bandages for the sick. Is this good picture for the people of the north Somalia -- Hope somebody explains and tell us a reason to understand.

Mr war monger Somalilander if you really have gutts to go to the clan wars, pack your things and join your uncle Egal, for sure he needs yes-men like you to clap hands for him without having a clue o what he is upto. See you tommorow when they appoint him as the president of Somalia and he leaves you and all his naageys-folks in the cold.

I tought we have had enough clan wars to make us wiser, obviously not. Let us keep killing each other little bit longer and see how many of us remain on earth before we wake up.

One more thing for Mr hero Somalilander. Puntland ain't sacred either as they are also full of selfish politicians like in Somaliland, but at least they are one step closer from Somaliland as they are not claiming separate state dividing the hearts and minds of Somali people who need each other to survive.

Waad qaboobiye qun yar soo soco

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Anonymous

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You are still asleep MAN, WAKEUP, do you know what time it is?

Somaliland isn't part of Somalia anymore. We can't allow desert wonders without proper papers to enter our peaceful country.


Jawaan xaley guday,
oo Garooma leh.
Meel uu xaley marey
Meel-hanaabaay!

Siyaasi

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Somalilander

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You Mr Wake up!!! and the rest.

(Galkacyo is divided in two parts, the north part is Puntland and the south part is Somalia)

What a shame to divide a Somali well known city like Galkacyo in to two parts!!! And who is complain for that bad action is Majeerteen. So, pleas dont try that you are innocent!

Dont try to show us Somaliland is the wrong one and then you go anlong with Puntland. That is bad. Dont try cheat again these harmless somali people. You have already done enough damage. Like they say before, Carabi intay ku nabtay nabigana kaaga hormartaa.


How can you be blind?
Read what you are writig!

As you were telling us to be united you have changed the topic to the teachers from Puntland those who were arested in Somaliland.

But what you did not underestand is that you wrote the word Puntland,instead off Somalia, in an other word you are pleased with the existing Puntlad.

That is telling us you are not willing to have a united Somalia. It easy to write about Somaliland. But Remember the issue is that Puntland is existing state. No one is willing to write about it.

Q: How did you succeded that somali people not writing or mesining Puntland?

I may guess, you Majeerteen are very smart people. No, you are not, but you are thinking that you are.

You can cheat all the people one time but you cannt cheat all the time all the people!!
When you cheated your somali brotheres and sisters they let you do that. Couse they thought you were a brother. They never expected that you were this beast. Have you ever hear Beast and the Beauty? If not, we were the beauty and you became are the beast.


Somalilander.

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Wake-up

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Isn't better idea to cover your behind before you think about issuing visas.

The worst thing was that when these poor teachers made a huge sacrifice to go to a hostile dreamland.

For those who have problems with the political terminology -- Puntland is a temporary solution with an adminstration until th rest of Somalis put their houses in order, it is not asking to separate itself from the rest of Somalia and FYI the white-blue Awaale flag still waves over it, who lives in Puntland? check it out yourself and look for even some of your relatives.

Have a look at your dreamland Somaliland which is trying to keep colonial legacy in 2000 by trying to divide Somalia on the basis of colonial divisions and some lies. Burning the Somali flag in the streets of Hargeisa will not be forgiven.

Run, run and run and I will still see you at the start point with your heads down! got it?. I just hope Somali people will be forgiving enough to let you get away with your wild behaviour.

One more question, why the heck do you blame anybody who is against the so called Somaliland as anti-•••••?. Can't you separate the two or is it so that you have nothing else rational to defend your lies?

I really have nothing against ••••• people as they are full of honourable people, Somaliland? to me the whole idea sucks.

Wixii kor aadaaba way soo degaan

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Anonymous

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Some of you mentioned that Hargeysa and Buroa were no the only cities that were destroyed. However, the destruction of Hargeysa and Buroa was not the same as other cities, they were destroyed with hatred towards the Isaaqs. A hatred so bad, that they wanted to wipe out the Isaaqs as a whole. Brother, have you ever seen a whole Army and Air-force targeting only civilians, look no further The former Somali Army. They killed thousands of civilians, just because they were Isaaqs. Totally un-Islamic.

In the recent Somali re-Unification Conference, they want us to shake hands and sit next to those "Gacan Ku Diiglayaal" who killed handreds of thousands of Somaliland people. Totally Absurd.

If the idea of Somaliland sounds stupid to you, it sounds so sweet to me. Brother, let us put it this way, If Kosovo and East-Timor had reasons to separate, why not us?

The day will come that Somaliland will be an internationally recognized country. In the meantime, we will not forget the words of Mahamed Mooge, Alya-Rahma, "Ahaan mayso Dunidani sida aad moodeyo, Waxa iman ayaantan Alahey ka sugaaye"

Siyaasi

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Timacadde

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Mr Anon and other Somaliland advocates out there.

There is nothing wrong remembering your dead and casualities, destroyed cities and all, but ignoring the similiar casualities of others is called selfish. Is it really hard for you guys to understand that simple matemathics?. Lot of bad things were done to Isaaaq people by Siyad Barre's junta, but they are not the only Somali people who are roughed up by the former regime.

What do you say about those people whose loved ones were yesterday and even still today are massacared, their houses and properties destroyed and put through hot hell in places like Mogadisho, Baidoa, Merca, Kismayo etc?. Mind you these people are sucking their fresh wounds and yet still willing to reconcile with the rest of Somalis including those who kiled them yesterday. Are you telling me that they are less human and possess less feelings and pride than you are?

Also if you try to fight monster you have to make sure that you don't become one yourself. Siyad Barre was a monster, everybody knows that and all that he did to Isaaaqs and the rest of Somalis. For heaven's sake the man is long dead and he is not listening your whinings.

Now that you are claiming to have set up a better goverment in Somaliland, why is Egal and his junta is repeating the same practices of Siyad Barre, trying to distort the facts on the questions of disputed regions like Sanaag, Sool, Awdal etc, who are not wholy occupied by Isaaaqs and therefore do not want to separate from the rest of Somalia.

There is nothing wrong if Isaaaqs want to separate their part of the land, but their attempts to walk on other people's heads will lead to no good results but to more conflicts, wars and bloodsheds.

If you have the right to decide on your destiny, you must remember that you have the duty to respect the will of others to decide on theirs.
Somaliland case is very different from Cosovo and East Timor where there are distinct ethnic groups separing from oppressive regimes and different sociaties (cultrally, religiously, linguistically etc). Somaliland is not all that, no fooling around, no lies please.

You just cannot blame the crimes of long ded Siyad Barre on innocent Somalis who want to keep their country united with love, forgiveness despite all that happened in recent past. And besides Siyad Barre's junta was full of Isaaqs, some of which were even playing big part in the destruction of Hargeisa and Buroa as ministers, generals etc. Today many of those men are in Hargeisa and Buroa, showing another face and trying to cry with you on the crimes of their boss Siyad Barre so that no body looks at them. Bring them to justice first before you look for others in far away places.


Thruth is worth telling, the rest will follow

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Siyaasi

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waxa layidhi been sheeg oo been run u eeg sheeg.
Lakiin, taadu way ka fogtahey run. Name one single isa'aq minister/general who surfed with Afweyne Army post-88 war in the northern-somalia?

Takale, If Afweyne is dead, his junta (namely Gaani, Moorgan and Maslax and many more) are alive and kicking.

Mida Kale, Sanaag iyo Sool waaxay ka midyihii dalka Somaliland, Dadka (no matter Isa'aq or Dhulbahante) dagan halkaas waa Somalilanders, their number one priority is peace, and the Somaliland government insures they get it first hand.

The Somaliland House of Representatives represents all the clans and sub-clans that live within Somaliland.

If these clans namely non-Isaaqs don't want peace, that means they want war, and you know you can't win against former SNM fighters who defeated the whole Somali Army+Somali Air-Force+Somali-Navy. Even South-Africa, during the Aparthied used to point their finger at The Somali Army, because of is it number and capabilities. What is more the SNM ayaa daanka dhigatay.

There was this joke, There was this family with an old woman, near Hargeysa during the war. Markaas Reerku, socdaal bay ahaayeen, waxay ka ordaayeen dagaalka. Waxaay soo dhexmareen meel laysku madhiyey oo Faqashta si xun loogu laayey. Ka dib meeshaas, hadana meel kale oo laysku laayey ayay soo dhexmareen. Islaantu waxay ey tidhi ayada oo lahadleysa wiilkeedii "Oo hooyow, waxaan ku waydiiyay, miyaaynay xabadu ku dhicin Faqashta ayaga oo sii jeeda moyee?"

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Anonymous

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ISKA DHAAFA ANAGAA KASYNO AQYAARTAAS WAA SOO SASABAYNAAHE

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Somalilander

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Wait a second......

Firs, What you dont understand is that we are every where in Somaliland. When you are saying the people in Sanaag, Sool and Awdal(regions which were created by the former dictator Afwayne to gett us to desappear from the whole area)are not willing to be with Somaliland? In an other words somalilanders are not willing to be somalilander!!! Too silly!!! it doesnot work. Dont try please, I cant lought you making yourself fool att the time.

Not only i Somaliland, we are even in southern Somalia, we are large number in Ethiopia, and Djabouti as well.

Q: So how can you say the people in these areas are not willing to be Somalilander? Who told you this nonsense ideas? Are you that blind so you cant think your own way?
Or is it so, that you are jelous and your midelle name is hate?
Or are you a largic for the progress?
I think what you want is to gett the rest off somalians to whach only Somaliland while you divided Galkacyo in to two parts. I think it is the time for somalians to realise what you are doing.


SAY WHAT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Galkacyo is divided in to two parts, southeren part off Galkacyo is Somalia and the northeren part off Galkacyo is Puntland.

We are not blind like you. We dont agree that you saying Puntland is part off Somalia. Have you read declaration off Puntland state? People read that! you will read funny things: like Jubbaland and Puntland are two states. Puntland will help Jubbaland.
Here you can see they are trying to dive Somalia in to many parts. And one more think they are saying these areas are belong to us.

Waxii kor tagaa way soo degaan, laakiin warqad gubataa dib uma soo noqoto. Sidaas ayay ka dhigan tahay Somaliland.


Somalilander.

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Non-Somalilander

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Somalilander:

1st learn to write properly & express your views more coherntly than this mambo jambo, that said;

what makes you think that you can speak for the People of Sool, Sanag, Awadal? They already cast their vote for one Somalia & don't want to be called by that colonial name Somaliland.

It never ceases to amaze me how far you Cement heads have buried your head so deep into the sand & refused to listen to voices of reason.

Your prized lion Egal, is ruling from the dictatorship Manuel Siyaad left him, so what's new Somalilander????????????????????????

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Somali

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Look at this in case you are not some of those blinded by Somaliland hype.

Seeing only what you want is called subjective selfishness, seeing the truth and the bigger picture is called wisdom. If SNM fighters are heroes to you, to some other people they are nothing but criminals who killed innocent civilians who had nothing to do with the Faqqash you are talking about. If they were heroes why did they killed and burned the houses of their life-long neighbours for the simple reason of not being Isaaqs?. Today they are begging those same people they killed yesterday to share a country with them. What a ridiculous twist of minds. Maanaa lay qarshaa mindiyo laygu qali doono!.

Those of you who are claiming that Sool and Sanaag are part of so called Somaliland, tell us why can't the honourable president of Somaliland Egal land one day on the soils of those lands?. Few smart guys from those areas are squeezing lot money from desperate secesionits by showing their faces in Hargeisa. How can anybody with a sense be cheated simple like that. Wake up dreamlanders. use your little money in a better way than filling the pockets of those political prostitutes. They will get you no where, they will leave you when they get better sources of money. In the meantime enjoy their company!.

Somalia is one!

Another Non-Somalilander from city in the heart of Somalia -- Las-Anod.

Ninka Qayliyo
Qac Qacda hayoow
Waad qaboobiye qun yar soo soco!

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hillaac

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Waad salaaman thiin. Marka hore aan suaal waydiiyo reer soomaali ha ahaadeen puntland ama arlaadiland,
Maxaad uga gubataan marka la soo qaado magaca soomaaliland?gaar ahaan hadaad majeerteen tihiin. suaaashaa idinkaan idiin dhaafay.
aan usoo noqdo dulucdayda, Dadka reer soomaliland dhib badan ayey kasoo mareen soomaaliya sidii ay ugu liseena ugumay hanbayn markaa waxay go,aansadeen inay ka goaan, taasi qalad maaha saaxiib ceebna maaha, wax aanad ula yaabin meeyey quyadii barigu USSR waxay ku danbeysay wadamo yaryar oo danahooda ka tashada, meeday YOGOSLAAFIYA, maxaad ula yaabtay haday soomaliland ka godo soomaaliya miyaad ku kalsoonaataan baaqiga 12kii gobol ee kale ayaad haysataane.
Mida kale meeday soomaaliyada aad ileedahay la midow maba jirtee saaxiib maxaa runta inoo diiday sowtan maalinkasta gaajo iyo xabadi lanaysa, ma meeshaas ayaad leedahay lamidow madaa waxbaba haya.
Waxaan odhan lahaa marka aad dawlad soosamaysataan ee aad soo heshiisaan ee aad gaajada ka soo baxdaan baaqigiina soo hadhaa markaa caalam u bandhiga waxaad noo haysaan ee aan idinkula midowno. saaxiib anagaa soomaali weyn keenay anagaana diidnay ee oohinta daaya.
Saaxibayaal hal af ayuunbaa idiin banaan, kaas ooah; Walaalayaal na caawiya oo na heshiisiiya markaa wax waanu idin tari laakiin idiinkii oo aan waxba ahayn maxaad u go,deen wax meesha yaal maal, soomaliweyntaad sheegaysaan xagey jirtaa miyaaney ahayn tan SHAADH GUDUUD, INA CAYDIID CISMAAN CAATO CALI MAHDI C/LAAHI YUUSUF isku haystaan ahayn arinkale meesha keena saaxibayaal

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Waddani

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Siyaasi Sawaab

Nacasyohow isku xisho oo wax macna leh dadka la hor kaalay intaad sheekooyinkii ay dumara iyo caqli yaruhu 10-sano ka hor isku maaweelin jireen qarniga cusub ku habsaansan tahay.

SNM-heroes are suffering int he streets of Hargeisa, while Egal -ex servant of Siyaad Barre's regime sleeps on a golden bed and drives brand new landcruisers. Shalay baan maroodi ahaa waxaa ka qurux badan maantaan orgi ahay!.

Soomaaliya ha noolaato

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siyaasi

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To Waddani;
Waraabow bood oo xaga hilbaha u bood|
Maanta ma'aha maalin masaasada laaguu haynlahaa. Egal, nin shaqaystay dheh, waayo? Siilaanyo, tuur iwm ahaayo dhan, wuu iska aamusiyay, NIN DHEH ninkaas.

To Somali;
Dameertuba haraatida horteed, dhuusada eyay barataa. Adigu waxba kama duwanid.

To intiina kale;
Waar waxa hore looyidhi, Dhidir xabaalo qodeen, qudhun buu uga dhaadhacaaye waxan inaga daaya dambi ayaa inoogu sugan e.

Wa salaam

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Waddani

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Siyaasi

Look who is talking!. Ma adigii baa durba wanaag ka talinaya. Yaaba is gaadhay sowtay dheeshu bilowga ahayd.

Wallee reerkii Somaliland dhib baa haysta hadday u hadlayaan Siyaasi oo murqaansan iyo Somalilander oo aan sida wax loo qoroba aqoon oo sidii carruur caraysan isaga qaylinaya .

Ogow shiikhow, yaan la isku soo khaldamin oo waxba la isu naagayn oo hadba mid la ii soo laaluushin, shilimmada lasoo baryeyna ha iska khasaarinina ee musqulo ku dhista. Ciyigii waa ka beryeyna ninkii cunay baa ka liita.

Meesha loo socdo waan wada garanaynnaa oo waa xeedhada gunteeda, ninkii niikada laga badiyana dammiin daba weyne dheh. !

Af- caytamayna ninkiisuu ku yaal, dameerna hadal baa la yiri, suu Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaac!

Waa tii la yiri nin daad qaaday xumbo cuskay. Si baad u waal waalanaysaan beryahane waxaan idin oran lahaa dhiigga dejiya oo wejiga ha iska xumaynnina Soomaali meel kala tegi maysee, haddaydaan kolley hadalka deyneyn wax aan hadhow denbi idiinka iman oo laydinka cafin karo ku hadla, yaanna hadhow maqlin markii xamar loo tartamo "aniga ma ahayn, iyo anigu sidaa ma oran"
Immisaannu aragnay mid qayladiisa laga joogi waayey oo hadhow madaxa hoos u rogaya.

Ina Cigaal yuu jar idinka tuurin, dantiisuu wataa oo hadhow markay arrintu dhinac kale iska rogto habaaskuu idiinka tegi oo sidii Cabdiraxmaan tuur ayuu Muqdisho iska dhiibi, keligiis ma aha ee siyaasiyiinta Soomaaliyeed ayaa sidaa u iimaan la' oo waraabayaal noqday. Intaad Soomaali xumaynteeda ku maqan tihiin waddanka ka ilaaliya Xabashi iwm.
Ninkii Cigaal waxa la yiri nac nac baa lagu sasabay oo maalin dhow xeebtii Berbera kuma taqaan.

Somalilander!, please cool down Puntland kuma liqayaan sheydanka iska naar oo fadlan sida loo hadlo baro, haddii kale iska aamus, ceeb iyo qalbi jileyc uun baad soo kordhine.

Jaah wareer baa waddankii la geshee Hargeisa wanaagsanaydaa! Intaad sidaa ciddiyaha dhaadheer u taag taageysaan ood dadka xag xaganaysaan cidina wax idinku darsan maysee dhaqanka beddela oo si akhlaaq leh bani'aadanka ula dhaqma, haddii kale bal aynnu dhowrno meeshaad orod ku gaartaan.

Sama diidow dabin baa kuu dhigan lagugu dili doonee, dadkaaga dhinac raac, hooy hooy dhinac ka raac, yaanad dhumine dhinac ka raac.

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Nabaddoon

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Hillaac

Alla nimanyohow maxaad isla weyn tihiin oo aad soomaali inteeda kale hoos u dhigteen oo aad ilaahay ka barideen inuu dhulku la go'o idinkuna aan xiddigaha gaartaan. War nimanyohow waa yaabe axmaqnimada iyo xaasidnimda intaa le'eg xaggaad ka keenteen, Isaaaqii aan aqaannay oo gobta ahaa dad wanaag jecel bay ahaayeene.

Afarta cajaladood oo xarunta ina cigaal laga soo duubay baad aragteene miyaad illowdeen inay jireen dhul kale oo nabad iyo caana geel lagu caweeyo?.
Boosaaso daawo dacallada, Garoowe Daawo dacallada, Gaalkacayo daawo dacallada.

Haddaba niman yohow xaasidnimada iyo xasaasiyadda iska daaya oo soo dhowaada carada badan iyo xanaaqaana iska daaya. Puntland iyo Majeerteen Yuhuud ma ahee waa dhul iyo dad somaaliyeed oo idinla deris ah, dagaal iyo nabad toonna meel kala tegi maynno, haddaynnu kala adag nahay mar horaynnu is dhammays tiri lahayne nabad markan ma ka talinnaa.

Naagayska gaalada intaynnu iska deynno aynnu soomaali nabad ka dhex dhalinno, haddaad tii Xamar iyo Baydhabo oo kale rabtaanna dee iskeen siiya, haba la kala hadhee, haddii kalese rabshada innaga daaya oo sheyddaanka innaga naara aynnu noolaannee.

Haddaad hungurooto waa la hadlaa
Hab baa ladhisaa wax lagu helo
Ha gaaja ordine wax kala garo


Yaa rabbal quwa - bani'aadam daciif

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Somalilander

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Nabadoon waan ku fahmay.

Kol hadaad tidhi aan isdayno. Waxa aad u jeedaa Puntland waa dawlad ee daa. Aad ayaan ugu farxay sida aad u qiratay jiritaanka dawlada la magac baxday Puntland.
Laakin waxa la yaab leh sida aan looga hadlayn Puntland.
Alla! majeerteen caqli badanaa!! Waxa ugu daran kuwan aan garanayn waxa meesha ka socda ee iska hadlaya. Waar idinku horta waxa fahma! Hadii aad garan waydeen waxa aan ka hadlayo, waan idiin sharxi doonaa hadii aad i waydiisaan.

Wali ma jiro qof ka naxay ama xumaaday kala qaybinta Gaalkacyo. Waa arin aan fahmi waayay waxa dadku uga hadli waayeen?
Mise dadka ii soo jawaabayaa ayaa dhamaan ah dad reer Puntland ah, inta kalena sidii caadadu ahayd kuwii ay waligood siri jireen.
Waxa aad leedihiin markasta ku soo darsada Somaliyadii jiri jirtay. Horta Somaliya meeday? Hadii ay jiri lahaydna xageenu soo marnaa sow tan Puntland dhexda fadhiisatay.

Dadka ii soo jawaabayaa ma aha awiye. awiye waa kuwaa xamar haysta. Maanta uma baahna in Hargeysa looga yimaado. Dhibkii hore loo baday ayay maanta wali ka soo kici kari la´yiin.
Yaan lagu riyoon in Xamar lagu xukumo awiye mar kale. Walee majeerteen danbe ayaan xamar ka talin, waar iska aamina Boosaaso. Ma waxa aad doonaysaan in aad hooyooyinkii sharafta lahaa markale u xirtaan saraawiil oo aad tidhaahdaan kacaan ayaad tihiin? Never! Ma duqdii Maana faay iyo Kaaho ayaad doonaysaan in aad mar kale ku tidhaahdaan "Xun yahay" ?
Ma Xamar ayaad ku riyoonaysaan in aad awiye ku xukuntaan? Taasi way dhamaatay.

SNM, waa tii nabad galisay Dhulbahante iyo Gadabuursi ee tidhi nala noolaada. Way awoodeen in ay sidii Siyaad laaayaan. Laakiin taasi ma dhicin oo dad jacayl kayagii waan lee nahay. Laakiin imika waxa aan ka talinaynaa sidii aan mar danbe diyaarad naloogu rushayn. Meel kasta oo Somaliland ah waan degnaa, dadka nala degan Awdal, Sanaag iyo Sool waa walaalahayo oo waxa aan ka nahay masuul. Laakiin waxa cajiib ah sida ay noogu diidan yihiin goboladan aan la deganahay oo ay u leeyihiin anag ayaa kaligayo ku noolaanayna. Taasi macnaheedu waa idinku (duriyada) deganaada laakiin ha sheeganina ayaan u aragnaa. Waxa ka wayn ayaan ka talinaynaa taas oo ah nabada ay ku haystaan iyo demoqraadiyada ay heleen ee ay hadaladaas ku odhanayaan.

Oh! All fiiciyaa hadaan ahay duriyada.

Maanta intaas ayaan kaga baxayaa
Tani waa Hargeyso
hirar ka gaaban
idin kala hadlaysee
habeen wanaagsan
waan hoyanayaa ye
habeen wanaagsan

Somalilander

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HILAAC

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To wadani
AAR QOYEY DACAWAA LA MOODAA
Horta waxa fiican qofku marka uu rabo inuu dood ka qayb qaato inuu ahaado qof yaqaan dooda unugteeda, iyo waxa ay ku socoto maaha kolba nin waxa uu yidhi ka daba qaado oo ka daba tag, balse waxa fiican in aad waxa xaqiiqda ah ka hadashid.
Mida kale arinku maaha midig iyo bidix labadaba ku giringiri.
To nabadoon
saaxiib waad mahadsantahay, laakiin suuaalaha aan meesha ku qorey kamaad jawaabin ee maxaa waxyaabo kale ku geliyey dooduna waxay ku fiican tahay in aynu si cilmiyeysan oo xaqiiqda ku dhisan uga doono.

Aan usoo noqdo qodobkan ah s/land iyo somaliya mxaa ka dhexeeya.
Anigu wxaan qabaa in aanay jirin wax imika ka dhexeeyaa waayo hadii laba qowmiyadood is afgaran waayaan oo ay dhibaato dhexmarto , xag maamul xag dhaqaale iyo xag bulshonimoba taas oo keeni karta dagaalo aafeeya labada qawmiyadood sida inagu dhacdey waa inay kala hadhaan oo ay qowmiyad waliba danaheeda ka tashTAA. Sidaa awadeed somaliland haday danaheeda ka tashatey oo ay tidhi soomaaliya waan ka go,nay,madanbi ayey gashey? hadey gasheyse yaa gartaa qaadaya ayaad umalynaysaa?soomaaliyase meeday? Yaan se la midownaa?

Waxaan filayaa in aad su,aalahann sida xaqiiqda iiga soo jawaabto. Dooduna waa furan tahay saaxiibayaal cayda beenta iyo aflAGAADADA HALAGA DAAYO TOPIGAN.

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Nabaddoon

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Somalilander

Hurdaayoow hargalay weeyee ka toos!

Waxaad ka dhammaan la'dahay sagaaradu waa cabtaa iyo ma cabto. Yaa ahbal kabiir ma wax baa kuu yara dhiman, faraqa u dhexaya Somaliland iyo Puntland waa kan habeenka iyo maalinta oo kale. Puntland dhul ma goosan, inay waddan gaar ah noqotona ma rabto, waa dhul soomaaliyeed oo calankii cawaale ka suran yahay, dad dhulkooda dhisanaya oo nabad ka dhalinaya markay Soomaali heshiisana dhinacooda ka gelaya.

Somaliland waa dhul goosato, waxa wata dad uu Ingiriis carro beri hore maddiiddo ku akhriyey oo laga reebi la' yahay. Waa dad kala goynaya Somalia, waa dad caraysan oo af-lagaaddo badan oo aan lala xaajoon karin.

Warku makuu dhacay sacyohow maac lii

Midda kale marka geel laga hadlayo nikii gorayo u heesa inuu qori is maris yahay ma ogtahay? Sheekada Boosaaso iyo Hargeisa joogtay maxaa Xamar ka tuuray -- Habar caalweydey durey bay haffartaa!. Xamar waa magaalo Soomaaliyeed oo denbi weyn laga galay, ciddii ka gashayna taariikhdaa sheegi doonta, ninkii caqli lihina wuu arkaa maantaba. Ilaahay dadka soomaaliyeed oo halkaa ku nool nabad ha siiyo oo waraabayaasha ha ka qabto.

Hurdaayoow cid rabta inay cid kale xukunto waa la wada arkaa, ina cigaal bay lacagtii yarayd oo uu Qaddaafi dhulka kaga gatay ay kaga dhammaatay siduu isu lahaa wax laaluush dhulal aan ku rabin soo xero geli, alla yaa u sheega afarta beenaale oo masaasaddiisa nuugaa in aanay meel geyn karin. Uf! masaasadda dhiig baa ku jira laga soo jaqay carruurta iyo maatada Hargeisa ku dhibaataysan, iyagaa u baahan, ciddii caanahaa dhantana waa caada qaatayaal.

Soomaaliya waa hal shalay, maanta, berri iyo saaddanbaba, ciddii kala goysana waa denbiile.

Maxaa tiri " alla fiicaniyaa haddaan durriyadda ahay. Horta waa iga qoslisaye ma gabar baad tahay mise wiil da'daaduse maa intee? hadda waa iga daacad ee iagama aha khiyaamo majeerteen oo ku washay. Si kastaba Hurdaayow Durriyadda dad sharaf lahaa ka buuxee meel ha kaga dhicin sida foodleyda uma hadlaane -- Sidii gabadhii yarayd oo inta naasku usoo baxay ay muraayad isku eegtay tiri -- alla fiicaniyaa oo qurux badaniyaa naag baan noqday!. Ah!

Ogowna cid kasta sidaad isula fiican tahay inay isula fiican yihiin -- Kursiga hoostaadana eeg xuuuuuuuuuux Majeerteen baa ku jiree yuuna ku qaniinin!.

War Soomaali baynnu nahay oo waynnu is wada og nahay inaynnu xaarka ku fadhinee intaynnu faanka, af'lagaddada iyo waqti lumiska iska deynno danta guud ma eegnaa. Yaanay waraabayasha Ina Cigaal, C Yuusuf iwm isku keen dhammayn intay danahooda wataan. Dadka Soomaaliyeed waxba ma dhex yaallaane waa wada awr kiraale la isku soo ulayo.

sidaasay aniga ila tahay -- Ninkii diida yeelkii.

Haddaannu reer Qandala iyo Calowla nahay waxaannu niraahnaa "Belo ma jidhdho, hadday jidhdhana ma buurna"

War bal nasladdan iyo dalcaddan kaalay -- Oday Bas baas ilaahow kuu naxariiso, waa idin sidee, dad walaala ah baad tihiin, wejiyaddiinna fura, ha is dilina, ha is caayina, kaftama isla qosla. Maxaa idin dhex yaal. Waa innoo saaddambe iyo guul sidaasay inoo tahay!


Nabadeey

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somalilander

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Nabadoon
Waxaad tidhi "dad dhulkooda dhisanaya oo nabad ka dhalinaya"
Nabadoon adigaa iska leh miyaa Puntland? OO waad cadaysatay! All waxaan kugu jeclahay sida aad daacada u noqotay beryahan danbe. Ma kursigii aad ku hoos jirtay ayaad ka soo baxday?
Nabadoon adigu waxa aad xaq u leedahay dhul laakiin angigu xaq u malihi miyaa Somaliland? Mise waxa aad u malaynaysaa in aad sidaa igu siri kartid?
Maya, taas way dhamaatay.

Waxa aan ka yaabay sida aad wali uga hadhi la´diin dadka soomaliyeed ee aad silica badeen. Barigii Somaliya jiri jirtay ayaa waxa aad xaq u lahaydeen in aad indinku waxa aad doontaan ka hadashaan oo tidhaahdaan. Qofka isku daya in uu hadlana waxa aad ku fiiqi jirteen farta.
Tii oo kale ayaad halkan ka wadaan. Marka aan idhaahdo waxa aan ahay Somalilander farta ayaad igu soo fiiqdaan sidii caadada idiin ahayd. laakiin idinku waxa aad xaq u leedihiin in aad tidhaahdaan sida uu halkan ku qoray wadani.."dad DHULKOODA dhisanaya". Idinku dhul ayaad leedihiin laakiin kuwa kale maaha in aya lahaadaan ayaa taas ka muuqata
Waa yaabe taas miyay daan ka way naanayn. Mise waxa aad umalaynaysaan in wali dadkii hurdo.

Tusaale kale, barigii Soomaliya jirtay ayaad dadka ku dacaayadeeyn jirteen waxa ay yihiin si uu qofku uga hadho waxa uu leeayah. Waxa ka mid ahayd in qofka lagu dacaayadeeyo meesha uu ka yimaado. Waxa la arki jiray qofkii oo dafiraya meesha uu ka yimid. Ma layaab buu lee yahay ialayn waa lagu dacaayadeeyee. Ilayn idinka helaye.

Hadana tii oo kale ayaad wadaan, in aad Somaliland nagu dacaayadaysaan, wax xun ka sheegtaan, waar markan waa la idin ogaaday oo sidaa ma ha sheekadu.

WALEE ANIGOO KALE AYAA HADA KA DHAShAY DURIYADA OO IDIN FASHILAYA MARKASTA. DURIYADANA WAAN AHAY WAXA AAN XAQ U LEEYAHAY IN AAN IDHAA WAAN AHAY. HA IS KU DAYIN IN AAD FARTA IGU SOO FIIQDID OO KADIBNA AAN JOOJIYO. SHALAY, MAANTA IYO BARI-NA WAAN AHAY.
Bahal caadadii ma daayo ha igu noqon!


Waan soo socdaa waxna waan idiin soo sidaa samir yeesha.

Waqtigaa igu yare ee waxa aan halkan ku qori lahaa hadal badan oo buugaag noqon kari lahaa.

Somalilander

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hilaac

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Alhayow nin ii daran maxaan daafta hore seexshey.
saaxibayaal markaska oo aan bagekan eego run ahaan waan qoslaa, waayo ragan soomaali waa mida hayaa xagey ka waalan yihiin ayaan idhaahdaa, marna waxaan idhaahdaa malaha un tey qayileen ayey waayo waayo soo xasuustaaan.
Miyeydaan ogeyn in lagu kala guurey darkii, waa sidaad tidhiye marka geela loo heeso maxaad gorayo ugu heestaan, maad horta soomaalidaad sheegaysaan wax kasoo dhigtaan dabaded markaas ayaad somaliland wax kasheegi kartaane.
saaxiibayaal ninkii tiisa daryeeela ayaa tukale ku dara, ee sidisididiina mooyee maad dhul udhaciina hubsataan, ha noqonina iska qiiroode xiliaan loo baahneyn, suallahii horena wali jawaab idinkama hayee maxaa dhacay miyaa laga baqay.

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Waddani

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Somalilander

Gacan baan kuu taagey ninyohow waxaanna qiray inuu durriyaddii halyey geesi ah usoo kacay, alla xiniinya waaweynaa ma maroodibaa!.

Boowe wax badan ku oran maayee waxaan ku xasuusinayaa oo keliya faraqa u dhexaya "dhulkiisa dhiste" iyo "dhul gooste" -- adigu taa shaqo guri u qaado.

Waxyaalaha kale oo aad ka hadlaysid, dad la caayey, dad sidan la yeelay....walley iga tahay ma fahmine maad ii faahfaahisid.

Hillaac,

boowe adiga labadaadi su'aalood haddaan ka jawaabo.

1. Qoomiyadaha aad sheegaysaa ma geeso kala duwa oo lagu kala sooco ayey leeyihiin? haddiise dadka sidii geeli la kala soocayo yaa baas oo kala soocaya, xaggee xudduuduhu mari doonaan? lacagta xuduuddada lagu ilaalinayo xaggee laga keeni doonaa? lacag badan oo aynnu ku dhisanno derbiyo laale'eg ama ka waaweyn kii Baarliin? sidaa la socotidna soomaali maryooley derbi ma celiyo oo waad aragtaa meelahay marayaan adduunyada.

Ma rumaysanaysaa haddaan ku iraahdo hooyaday waxay ku dhalatay Hargeysa aabbahayna magaalada Qardho, markaa waa su'aale xaggee baad igu tirin lahayd? Ilaah igu og gurigaygu wuxuu ahaa Dunbuluq illaa ay 1988'ddii anigoo aan waxba ogeyn habeen madow la igu dhagaxyeeyey oo la igu yiri kasoo bax Daarrod baad tehee, qorayna way wateene ogow ilaahay baa iga badbaadiyee. Anigoo intaas la igu sameeyey ayaan diyaar u ahay inaan heshiis ku baaqo aanna raadiyo oo la heshiyo asxaabtii aannu isla soo kornay shalay. Haddaba nacas laga roone ah oo aan dhiig lahayn miyaan ahay, mise sida Somalilander sheegayo ayaa run ah oo dan qarsoon oo majeerteen baan wataa? Nin kastow sidaad rabtid u fasiro. Laakiin Soomaali kala goynteedu waa miro cadaadeed oo sina kuma yeeli doono, xataa hadday lagama maarmaan noqoto qori aanan weligay qaadin baan tuurta saarin.

2. Garta soomaaliyeed yaa qaadaya ayaad tiri? jawaabtaydu waxay tahay "innaga" hadda waa aniga iyo adiga iyo wixii nala mid ah.

3. Ugu danbayntii waxaad tiri ayaannu la heshiinnaa? jawaabtaydu waxay tahay la heshiiya walaalihiinna Soomaaliyeed oo denbiyadii Siyaad Barre oo beri hore dhintay carruuraha maanta dhashay ha ku eedaynnina idinkoo qabiil adeegsanaya, ogaada qaranna qabill kuma dhismo oo Siyaad barreba ku dhisi waa, ninka maanta yiraahda qabiil baan wadan ku dhisayaa god madow buu kusii socdaa.

Haddayba dhacdo oo Isaaaq goostaan dhulkooda, ma u malaynaysaa inay qabiil ku heshiin doonaan waqtiga dheer? -- Hadda xasuusnow dumbuluq baan kasoo jeedaa oo nin war haya baan ahaye!.

Midda kale ma u malaynaysaa inay Soomaali weyn ka
maarmi karaan?. Fadlan Hillaacoow su'aalaha iiga soo jawaab adigoo dhinac iska dhigaya dareenka casabiyadda, qabiilka iyo mindi mindi ku taagga waalli waallida yaan lagaa badin. Haddii runtuun laga hadlo ayaa xal la gaari karaa.

Soomaali waa mid

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siyaasi

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Waddani;
Ninbaa laga hayay "Maana waalan mise Cadan ayaa laga heesaya". Bal ii sheeg waxan aad la kurbanayso marka lasoo hadal qaado dadkaas tashadey?

to ninka yidhi Somaliland waa desert;
"You can't judge a book by its cover". "Mar haday abaari timaado, dhimatay geesdeer e, raga laxaha sii dhorayaaw dhaqasho waa geel e", waxan ula jeeda waa adi iyo maankaa.

To intiina kale;
Ninkii tiisaba daryeela ayaa mid kale ku dara. Ishan aad Somaliland ku eegteen miyaad koonfurtan ismadhisay ku eegtaan. Koonfur ayuunba maanta idiin baahan. Uma hadli kartaan dadka dagan Sanaag&Awdal.

Takale, Waad wada ogtihiin intaad ku tacabteen dhisida Xamar oo aad maanta Tuulo magaalo-madax idiintahay. Taas tacab khasaar dheh, lakiin miyay idin qabataa?

Puntland amaba magacu meel idin gaarsiinmaayo, yaanu wakhtiga idinka ridin. Shaqo wayn ayaa idiin taal, koonfur la gorgortama, inkastoo ay u eegtahay "MISSION IMPOSSIBLE", wakhtigiina ku lumiya halkaas. The Bottom line, Somaliland rag tashadey dheh.

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Abdiweli

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War war la'aan baa idin haysee aamusa soomaaliyey, war mahaysaane Somaliland webiyaal dahab ah baa mara, waxaana ka da'a roobab dheeman ah waddanka intiisa kalena waa abaar lama degaan ah. Ollooo war ina carasiiya oo ina geeya Hargeysa aynnu dahabka ku dabbaalanne.

Alla durriyaddu maxay been isugu sheekaysay oo sidii carruur ama dhoocilo yar yar oo la maslaxaynayo afka hadba dhinac u taageen. War waxaad goosan kartaan goosta oo ummadda xaarka kala fariista.

Iska daaya uun dadka aan idin rabin oo aad isku dhedhejinaysaan. Walle Cabdullahi Yussuf meel buu idinkaga soo baxay, weligiisba Majeerteen wuu idinka caqli badnaa idinkana qaylo yaraa. Idinku ma quustaan miyaa maalintay Puntland abuurantay ayuu Somaliland xariggu u go'ay.

Waddan la kala goynaya ma jiree taa niyaddiinna ka saara oo qashinka Hargeysa yaal iska gura intaad Siyaasad aydaan meel ku gaarayn waqti iskaga luminaysaan.

Nin kaa dheeraya lalama tartamo oo waa lagu daalaa

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Ina Qallaf

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War waa yaabe reer Hargeysa maxaa qaaday oo ay afka la wada buurayaan beryahan. Ma cid aan Siyaad Barre ahayn baa caana ka daadisay.

Soomaaliya oo awelba qoobad yar oo cayr ah ahayd baa la kala goynayaa wax la dhegaysan karo ma aha.

Midda kale Somalilandta la sheeg sheegayo yaa baas oo raacsan yaase kasoo horjeeda waxad moodda inuu meesha ka socdo jujuubkii iyo afduubkii keligii taliyaasha lagu yiqiin, sidee wax u jiraan sow tii arrimahaas oo kale shalay Ina Barre lagaga cabanayey, dadku illowsho dhowaa. Dhul wuxuu go'i karaa marka dadka meeshaas wada degaa oo dhan ay isku raacsan yihiin oo keliya haddii kale waa wablada tumo.

Sow tii habeen hore suldaankii Ciidagale uu BBC u sheegay inay dadkiisu rabaan inay Soomaali wax la qaybsadaan, Ina Cigaalna meelahaas buu ka jaq jaq leeyahy. waa maxay kala dhuun dhuumashada iyo is daba martayntu? Maa docuun la isugu baryo oo ay dadku waxa u daran sheegaan hallaga daweeyee.

Kuwa SNM geesiyaasha nooga dhigaya miyey indho iyo dhega la' yihiin, miyaanay ogeyn inay qabaan dhiig badan iyo denbi ay ka galeen dad soomaaliyeed oo aan waxba geysan oo qabiil uun lagu laayey. Waa halkii maroodiga iyo takartee.

Ogow

Geesigaad ku faantaa
Gobollada agtaada ah
Ummad buu gumaadoo
Waa gacan ku dhiiglee
Nacasyohow gammuunani
Garta ma ogolaataa
Hore aan u guullee
Mise ways gujeynnaa
Gacmaha isku fiiqnaa
Oo is gaba gabaynnaa
arladuba ha gubatoo
gogoshuba ha oloshoo
Geelu ha dhammaadee
Allow yaa nakala gura!

War ma is wada caffinaa oo hore ma u soconnaa, sidii mara ku dhegtii baan is wada qab qabsannaa gabbalkuba ha inoo dhacee kolley la innaga tegye miyeynaan caqli iyo damiir lahayn Soomaaliyeey?.

Ilaahow Soomaali caqliga qabiilku ka xaday usoo celi....Aaaaaaaaaamiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin.

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HILAAC

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TO WADANI
9SAAXIIB qomiyadaha soomaalida waxaa ka dhexeeya magaca luqada, iyaga oo isaga mida intaa hadana way kala go,i karaan sida dhabta ah xuduudna way kala samaysan karaan iyada oon dayrkii baarliin iyo mid u dhowtoona la dhisin.
somaliland way ilaashan kartaa xuduudeeda, meesha ay ka dhowdahayna waa soomaalida kale oo gaajada iyo dagaalka ka baxda dabeed runta laysugu yimaado, saaxiib umad dhan lama cabudhinkaro lamana qasbi karo, arintan aad sheegaysaana way ina sii kala fogeynaysaa ee maxaad ku diideen inaad sanado na eegtaan oo tidhaahdaan reer somaliland waa diiden soomaali sow maaaha idinkaa cirka roob ku oge orda dabadeed na dhowrtaan halka aanu kasoo baxno(soo joogso ninkii laga waayo soo jiifso ayaa laga helllaye.

waxaad tidhi gartaa inagoo dhan ayeynu qaadeynaa.
Hadaan idhaahdo saaxiibayaal aniga arinkaygu meel ayuu yaal kama noqonayo maxaa dhacaya?

heshiiska ayey timi.
marka meel waxyaalaan ayaa heshiis iyo waanwaan laga hadlaa ee ma soomaaliya ayaanad war kahayn saaxiib, idinkii ayaa 10 meelood ukala qaybsan ee heshiis iyo wada hadal xaguu ka imanayaa bal horta mid markaad soo noqotaan ayaan aqbalayaa jawaabtaada.

mida kale hadey hoyaadaa dumbuluq ku dhalatay iyo hadey qudhac dheer ku dhalatayba way ku dhalatay, oo soomaali nimadii waa halkeedii dad walaalo ah ayeyne nahay, ee dhulka iyo lacagta, basborku hainoo ka;lasoocnaadeen xidhiidhkii ganacsi iyo walaaltinimadii halkeedii ha ahaato. Oo anoo somaliland ahi aan ku noolaado soomaaliya hadaan doono laakiin si sharci ah dee sida caalam kuba yahay.
Wadan kale ayaad ku nooshahay imika sharci baanaad ugu nooshahay soomaalina waa tahay, markaa sidaas oo kale maxaad ku diideen.

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HILAAC

Unrecorded Date
TO WADANI
9SAAXIIB qomiyadaha soomaalida waxaa ka dhexeeya magaca luqada, iyaga oo isaga mida intaa hadana way kala go,i karaan sida dhabta ah xuduudna way kala samaysan karaan iyada oon dayrkii baarliin iyo mid u dhowtoona la dhisin.
somaliland way ilaashan kartaa xuduudeeda, meesha ay ka dhowdahayna waa soomaalida kale oo gaajada iyo dagaalka ka baxda dabeed runta laysugu yimaado, saaxiib umad dhan lama cabudhinkaro lamana qasbi karo, arintan aad sheegaysaana way ina sii kala fogeynaysaa ee maxaad ku diideen inaad sanado na eegtaan oo tidhaahdaan reer somaliland waa diiden soomaali sow maaaha idinkaa cirka roob ku oge orda dabadeed na dhowrtaan halka aanu kasoo baxno(soo joogso ninkii laga waayo soo jiifso ayaa laga helllaye.

waxaad tidhi gartaa inagoo dhan ayeynu qaadeynaa.
Hadaan idhaahdo saaxiibayaal aniga arinkaygu meel ayuu yaal kama noqonayo maxaa dhacaya?

heshiiska ayey timi.
marka meel waxyaalaan ayaa heshiis iyo waanwaan laga hadlaa ee ma soomaaliya ayaanad war kahayn saaxiib, idinkii ayaa 10 meelood ukala qaybsan ee heshiis iyo wada hadal xaguu ka imanayaa bal horta mid markaad soo noqotaan ayaan aqbalayaa jawaabtaada.

mida kale hadey hoyaadaa dumbuluq ku dhalatay iyo hadey qudhac dheer ku dhalatayba way ku dhalatay, oo soomaali nimadii waa halkeedii dad walaalo ah ayeyne nahay, ee dhulka iyo lacagta, basborku hainoo ka;lasoocnaadeen xidhiidhkii ganacsi iyo walaaltinimadii halkeedii ha ahaato. Oo anoo somaliland ahi aan ku noolaado soomaaliya hadaan doono laakiin si sharci ah dee sida caalam kuba yahay.
Wadan kale ayaad ku nooshahay imika sharci baanaad ugu nooshahay soomaalina waa tahay, markaa sidaas oo kale maxaad ku diideen.

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siyaasi

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Waddani;
Dagax waa saleele e caruur iyo haween dayuurado "Migs" huubaysan ma lagu dalbaday, Faqashtu ma ay qabatay, dunbuq dabadiise malagu gagabiyay. Walaaladaase iyo intaad jeclayd oo dhan ma laguugu hor dilay. Walashaase ma lagugu hore kufsaday. Habeenkiise baqdin ma kuu ahayd, malitiise ma ka darneyd. Xidhkase ma ku noolayd, dugaag ma isweheshateen.

Waddani, waxa layidhi "Example is the best Teacher" adiga example kaas ayaa kuu dhiman. Waa runtaayo, waxba xaladayada kamanaad ogeyn, wixi nalagu hayay, oo sidaad sheegtayba Habeenkaas ay arintu qadhaadhatay ayuunba kuugu horeysay. Dhalintii Isaaqa aheyd ee asxaabta aheydeen waxba kuuma aanay sheegi karayn, waayo? DAARROD ayaad tahay, nina naftiisa khatar mu'uusan galinaynin.

Idinkuna guri dugsoonoo Dunbluq kuyaalaad naga daawataano kolba dhinac u jiifteen. Ana sidaan axmaar gaala ahay dayuurado, madfac iyo dunbuq ayaa layla raadinayay anoo daasad aan sidan.

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Waddani

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Hillaac

Waad ku mahadsan tahay sida fiican oo uga soo jawaabtay su'aalahaygii. Sidii la yiri aan wada hadalno waa aan heshiinno.

Kala fikrad baan nahay waana mid caadi ah oo baniaadamka ka dhaxaysa, intaan oran karey arrintan waan ka iri waxaanna rabaa in aan halkaa kaga baxo, waxay samayn lahaayeenna Soomaali bay u taal, ama Hargeysa ha joogeen ama Boosaaso, Baydhabo iwm. Ijiid aan ku jiidee waa jeenyo daalis. Mahadsanid Hillaac, Abtigiis, see you on the bridge (that is if I get the visa!), remember you don't need one to enter Bosaso, come and have a fish dinner with us on Bender Qaasim beach, it is cool and relaxing out here.

Siyaasi

War laga naxo ayaad sheegta, waxaase la yiri war la qabaa xiisa ma leh. Rasaasta Hargeysa ku dhacaysay 1988'ddii may kala garanayn cidday ku dhacayso qabiilkeeda. Waan ogaa wixii dhacay iyo denbiyada la falay, waxaanse kuu sheegayaa Hargeysa keliya kamay dhicin, waxay ka dhacday oo weli ka dhacdaa waddankoo dhan. Xanuunka ku gaaray keliya lama arkee hareerahaagaa la eegaa. Weligaa ma maqashay jabhaddii ugu horreysey oo Siyaad Barre ku kacday SSDF waxa lagu samayn jirey? Hargeysa hilib geel iyo maraq baa la isku dhuuqayey markay rag timuhu dhufays ku raamoobeen oo quraanjada cunayeen. Adigu indho iyo dhego aad ku maqashid ma lihid oo waxaad ku baraarugtay wixii waqooyi ka dhacay oo keliya, waadna ku miyir beeshay oo weli
halkaas bay kaaga dhegtey.

Haddaad runta rabtidna Daarrood kuma diline waxaa ku diley Siyaad Barre iyo askartiisii oo ay ku jireen qabiil kasta oo soomaalieed iyo xataa ajnabi. Kuwii Isaaaqa ahaa oo askartaa ka mid ahaa maantay Hargeysa malaa'ig isaga kiin dhigaan iyagoo hooska qabiilka ku gabbanaya si ay idiinka jeediyaan denbiyadii ay shalay galeen. Siyaasi ilaah baan kugu dhaarshee adigu kolley askari baad ahayde ma guul wadaad ahayd mise koofiyad cas?, kuwa denbiga galay oo qori is mariska ah baa sidaada oo kale u hadlee. Waan kula kaftamayaa hadda.

Intaad denbi aanan kaa gelin igu eedaynaysid adiguna malaa'ig aan weligeed denbi gelin iska dhigaysid, ha iga filin inaan kuu garaabo. Mindi mindi ku taagguna wuu socon doonaa.

Caddaaladdu qabiil ma leh.

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Abdiweli

Unrecorded Date
Reer Hargeysa


Dhiigga dejiya kuna soo dhowaada Boosaaso, waa dhul Soomaaliyeed, calankii cawaale ayaa ka dul suran, viise lagaama rabo iyo baasbboor toonna.

Biyo kulule labadiisa dacal dacal kusoo mayro
Kalluun duban digaag shiilan oo daawo lagu shiilay
Oo deeq laguu siinayana qandala usoo doono

Maandhooyin dhul goosiga maad ka xishootaan ood danta gud ka talisaan

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Caasha-Kiin

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Illowsha dhowidaa Abboowe!

Miyaad illowdeen shalay markii Mudug, Bari iyo meel kastaba maatadayada lagu xasuuqayey, gabdheheenna aan qaan gaarin lagu kufsanayey, berkedeaha biyahana sunta nalooka shubayey inaad idinku Hargeysa heeso kacaan ah ka qaadeyseen oo siyaad Barre iyo askartiisa sacabbada u tumayseen AABBIHII GARASHADA oo lahaydeen Mahbarka Kulmis soo qabqabta.

Miyaad illowdeen in adeerradiin ay ka mid ahaayeen kuwii xabbadda nala dhacayey?.

Maxay ku dhacday inaannu annagu cafinno dadkii waxaa nagu samaynayey oo heshiis Soomaaliyeed iyo dhul soomaaliyeed oo mid ah u doodno? Sidey idinla tahay Siyaad Barre daarrood buu ahaa oo annagay xabbadiisu nala dhalatay miyaa?. Doqmayohow haddaba xabbadi qabiil ma leh oo kii kugu dhuftaaba waa cadowgaa walaalkaaba ha ahaadee.

Maxay ku dhacday inaad tiinnii uun xasuusataan oo qayladiinna aduunka laga fadhin waayo? Waxaad isugu sheekayseen idinku Ishaq baad tihiin oo waa laydin neceb yahay keligiin baana soomaali la xasuuqay. Caqli ba'ay. War cidina idinma nebca, wixii dhacay dhecee oohinta joojiya oo Soomaalidiinna la heshiiya, kelinnimo iyo qabiil meelna idin geyn maayoo hadhow baad idinku is cuni doontaan marka la idinka dareero oo iridda la idiin xiro.

Waxay ila tahay waxaad majeerteen kula dirirsan tihiin waxay tahay idinkoo raba in aad keligiin qaylisaan oo tiraahdaan waxbaa nala yeelay, ummadaha kale dhaawacyada gaaray iyo xasuuqqa lagu sameeyey ma aragtaan dad caqli iyo wax garad lehna waad sheeganaysaan. Kala fogaa. Xaggee baad caddaladda ku barateen mise qabiil baa idin indha tiray.

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hilaac

Unrecorded Date
hi casha-kiin
horta walaashay ayaad lamagactahay.
marka xiga wad mahadsantahy.
bal hada aan wax ku waydiiyee adigu ma kuwii mahmarka u adeegi jirey ayaad ahayd waa kaftan hada ee ha xanaaqin.
anagu ahdaanu soomaliland anahay waanu tashanay wixii na gaadheyna na gaadhey, cidna u ooyi mayno alxamdu lilaah waa dhisanahay waa fiicanay, nin kastaa hadlee waxaanu leenahaay somaliland goosigeedu waa muqadas cid ishortaagi kartaana majirto, ee waxan baas ee aad naga rabtaan ayaanu garan la,nahay, ma waydaan naga maarmeyn anagu waa maaranaye dee hadal iyo ilkaba waa lacadweeyaa ee maad cadeysaan waxan aad naga dooneysaan dhulkii oo dhan ayaa hadheye miyuu idinku filaan waayey.
cajiib idinkama caqli badnin idinkama cilmi badnin ee maad na daysaan maxaa nagu kiin marey

walaalnimoy xaal qaado waanu idindiidney idinmana rabno ee cirka jeex soo rida.

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Somalilander

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Yaa arkay waxa ku qoran bage-kan?

Somaliyeey waxa aad gashaan bage-kan, (www.somalinet.com ),
kadibna waxa aad u daa degtaan hoos.
Waxa aad arkaysaa meel yar oo banaan oo ay ku hor qoran tahay, Web.
Halkaas waxa aad ku qortaan " hees ".
Waxa kuu soo baxaya bogg ay ku qoran tahay taariikhdii xooga dalka somaliyeed, amaan lagu amaanayo, askartii oo uu ka mid yayay Aadan gabyow.

Waxa aad taabataan meesha ay ku qoran tahay sawiro.
Waxa aad arki doontaan map ama khariidad taas oo ka hadlaysa sida ay somaalidu u degto Somaliya.

Sidee buu hal qabiil wadan kii oo dhan isagu u qaatay?

Bal hada soo eegoo kadibna waxa ay idin la tahay halkan ku soo qora.
Anigu yaabaye, in uu hal qabiil oo kali ahi sidaa ku qaatay Somalia!!!

Iyo sida uu qabiilkaasi isaga dhigayo midka raadinaya walaaltinimo iyo somaliwayn.
Alla kala fogaa, waxa loo sheegayo somalida iyo hoga uu qabiil kaasi qodayo.


Waxa aan kale oo aan ka yaabay meesha lagu qariyay "map"-kan ama khariidadan!!! Waaba si aan cidiba u arag. Qofka arkana uu u maleeyo sidan ayaa loo kale degan yahay Somalia. Hadii ay arintu sidaas tahay, waxa aan dagaalkii Somaligalbeed u galy in aan xorayno hal qabiil oo iska lahaa dhulkaas. Siyaad Bare ma waxa uu raadinayay abtiyaashiis, Ilayn iyagaa halkaa dega,e.

Markaa somaldii ku dhamaatay waa la siray miyaa?
Taasna jawaabteeda waxaa iska leh in ay ka soo jawaabto somalida ordaysa ee aan ogayn hoga loo qoday, loo qodayo loona qodi doono mustaqbalka?

Waa ninkii duriyada ahaa oo sidaan hore u sheegay idin fashilaya markale.
Shaqadaydu waa in aan soomalida tusaa hoga aad u qodaysaan.

Xusuusnow, waxa aan xaq u leeyay in aanad soo fara galin, tusaale ahaan ka ma hadli kartid erayga "duriyada" sababtoo ah waan ahay, waxa aan xaq u lee yahay in aan idhaahdo waan ahay.

Markaa ha isku dayin in aad ka hadashid.

Somalilander

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Gorgor Kacay la Mood

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They were being too generous to your lot imHO.

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Hurdaaye

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Keep the fight my dear Somali heroes. Heaven is for us. What a shame!

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Caasha-Kiin

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Hillaacow wiilka reer Hargeisa

Been ha iga sheegi, anigu ma oran Somaliland iyo cid go'ayse oo kale ayaan kasoo horjeedaa. Beryahan ciddii idinla hadashaba waad ksuoo booddaan idinkoo ku qaylinaya "Waannu go'aynnaa, idinma rabno, na daaya, faraha naga qaada iyo wax la mid ah " . Gacaliye anigu kuwaa idin haysta kuma jirin weligayna kuma jirin, Go'itaan baad sheegtay cirka soo taabta. Hadalkiinna badan marar badan waxaa loo tarjuman karaa "I arkaay, i maqlaay, i celceliyaay". Kuma jiro kuwa idin celcelinayee galgalashada ha ila soo korina!

Waxaan ka hadlay oo keliya inaad xasuusataan in aanay xabaddii Siyaad barre keligiin idinku dhicin e laydiinka horreeyey laydiinkana danbeeyey.

Waxaad kaloo i weyddiisey inaan Mahbar u shaqayn jirey, jawaabtu waa haa weer cad baan xirnaa markay gabdhihiinnu weli Guulwade Siyaad qaadayeen. Goormaad wax garataan ma caqligaad ka naafowdeen.

Hawadana sidaas baan kaga baxaye cid kale la sheekaysta fadlan

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somalilander

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Reer Puntland,

Ma waxa aad leedihiin waxii reer Somaliland lagu sameeyay waxa ay ahayd sax?
Taas waxa laga akhrisan karaa sida aad markasta u bar-bar dhigaysaan dagaalkii ay waday jabhadii SSDf ee ay doonaysay in ay ku afgambido Afwayne.
Taas oo aad suuqa gashateen in Afwayne idin laayay.
Taasi waa been waa sidii caadadu ahayd in aad been suuqa gashataan.
Ma boosaaso ayaa diyaarad lagu duqeeyay?
Ma Garoow, Qardho iyo meelaha kale ee uu dagtaan ayaa diyaarado lagu rusheeyay?

Maya, taas waan ognahay.
Siyaad bare waxa uu ahaa nin qabiil ah, waa uu ogaa ninka inaadeerkii ah, markaa sida uu u baabiiyay reer Somaliland marna ulama dhaqmin inaadeeradii.
Afwayne waxa uu ahaa nin qabiil ah. Taasna waan ognahay.

Xishooda reer Puntland, marka aad doonaysaan in aad meesha ka doodaan. Waxa aad moodaysaan in aad doodaysaan, laakiin waad is ceebaynaysaan.

Hadii aad moodaysaan reer Soamliland waxa ay odhanayaan waan ilownay wixii nalagu sameeyay,waad riyoonaysaan.

Puntlanders waxa aad ahaydeen kuwii soo noqday markii uu afwayne idinku yidhi waxa aad qaadataan Somaliland.
Waa idinkii ka talinayay Somaliland, taas waxa u ah marag in Morgan iyo Aadan Gobyoy oo ah reer Puntland ay madax ka ahaayeen Somaliland.
Waan ogayn sidii ay ula dhaqmeen dadkii halkaa deganaa.

Hadaba sideen kuula heshiiyaa adiga reer Puntland ah ayaa sidaa iila dhaqmay,e?
Sideed ugu riyootaa in aan dib isugu darsano?
Maxaad eeda u saaraysaa Siyaad Bare?

Hada ayaad ugu darantiniin marka aad rabash ka wadaan Somaliland, marka aad tidhaahdaan gobolo ayaan deganahay.
Taasi waa aan dagaalano, oo Somaliland ha loo arko meel dagaal ka jiro.

Waar niman yahay xishooda oo waxa aad ka hadashaan sidii aad wax noo la qabsan lahaydeen. in taad is ku daalinaysaan nagama go´aysaan.

Waqtiga ha iskaga qaadina nagama go´aysaan.
Waxa aad xooga saartaan sidii aan idiin caawin lahayn. Somaliland waa meelaha wax ka baxaan wadankii la odhan jiray Somalia.
Hadii aad u baahataan caawinimo anaga ayaa idiinku deeqi doona mustaqbalka.

Waqti idiin ma hayo maanta, laakiin sidii caadadu ahayd waan soo noqon doonaa.

Somalilander

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Abdiweli

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Somaliland -- Hehehehehe!

Reer Somaliland walaalayaal ha la i caawiyo waxaan rabaa in aan Hargeisa iska dhiibo si aan canbaha iyo babbayga, tuffaaxa, malabka, caanaha iyo khayraadka kale oo Somaliland ka baxa uga dhergo, walaalayaal waan idin baryayaa dad soomaali ah baan isla nahaye sarreen iyo gallay noo soo dira gaajo xun baa Boosaaso nagu laysaye miyaydaan jir damqada lahayn. Niman ••••••• ah baan nahay oo qaxootti ah durriyadda reer Isaxaaq oo qaniga ah baannu magan u nahaye hanaloo soo gurmado.

Alla yaab badanaa. Adduunka intaan jirey ma arag Soomaali reer shiikh Isakxaaq ka xaqqiirsan oo ka faan iyo booto badan. I wonder maxay samayn lahaayeen haddii dhulkooda barool laga helo ama godad waaweyn oo dahab ah, iminka iyagoo bacaad ku fadhiya ayaa dhuusadoodii laga joogi la'yahaye.

War iska jira cadowga yuu idin cunine

Waxa la yiri

Dad ninkii dubbe qaatay
Oo dagaal weyn ku dhaqaaqay
Dunidoo dhan waa u musbaar
War yaan la idin dilin
Oo la idin dabar goynnin
Isku duubni ogaada
Nimanka daamanka weyn lee
oo dadkiinnii dhammeeyey
Dacalladiinna ka eega!

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Anonymous

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Nin kasta qummanihiisaa qoorta ugu jira!

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Somalilander

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Puntlander indho adagidiin. Maxaa idinka dhigay abeesadii far loo taagay fanaxay u boodaa.
Waar heedhe waxa la yidhi "hadii aad dhimanaysid waxa la iska duwaa dhareerka. Hadii aad ka baqanaysaan in ay abaar meesha idinku dili doonto aayatiinka waxba ha ka baqanina. Dad walaala ah ayaynu nahay oo waan idin caawin doonaa. Laakiin adkaysta oo xejista lambarkiina. Ha noqonina nin daad qaaday xumbo cuskay.

Waa idinka sheegtay in aad tihiin Puntland oo ah meel abaar ah, hadii aan idin idhi waxa aad ka talisaan sidii aad wax noola qaybsan lahaydeen, ma qalad baa ku jira?

Puntlanders hadii aan idin odhan lahayn waxa aan doonaynaa in aan Somalia ku soo noqonana waxa aad ka talin lahaydeen sidii aad u odhan lahaydeen ha noo imanina. Waar caadadan xun iska daaya oo ka taliya wanaag oo noo hambalyeeya, oo ku farxa horumarka aan gaadhnay idinka ayaa faaiido ku qabo mustaqbalka.


Puntlanders indho adagidiin. Waxa aad farta uun ku soo taagaysaan Somaliland.
Waxa aad noqoteen "maroodigu ma arko takarta isaga saaran ee waxa uu arkaa ta ka kale saaran".

Idinku waxa aad ku dhawaaqdeen in aad tihiin wadan la yidhaa Puntland oo aan xitaa magac somali ah ahayn, anagu xataa kama aan tagin somalinimadii oo waxa na la yidhaa Somali-land.
Markaa inta aad anaga uun na eegaysaan ka taliya tiina.

Inkasta oo aan aad ula yaabanahay sida dadku uga aamusan yahay Puntland ee aan laba qofna uga hadlayn, idinka oo ku guulaystay in aad markasta dadka farta ugu fiiqa Somaliland.

Laakiin waqtigaa idinkaga lumaya oo ka taliya danahiin.

Caawana intaa ha inoo ahaato.
Somalilander

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Sugall

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Salaamu calaykum Soomaalay!

You all know this kind of debate will never end forever, I would like to say my piece which I think may anger some or may make sence to some.

Since Somalia has no central government and some of the regionals are in a chaos and killing fields while others are enjoying with a relative peace and properity with some sort of administration ( and feel free to call them whatever name you please), why not we establish or try at least to help those who live the most wild parts of the country to the example the other regions took to settle and extingush the bloody and the senseless killing?
INHO, when peace is achieved all the other problems will be solved whether coexisting as one nation or becoming two brotherly neighbor countries as the rest of the world.
Insulting one another through the cyberspce will not solve your grieveness but magnify your hatrate towards each other and those killers back home be the remanants of the old pary or the self proclaimed war lords will flurish in the expense of your foolishness.

Peace.....

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concerned

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For those of you who doesn't know, there is a big possibility of Somalia's north (Somaliland) and Puntland going to war very soon on trivial stuppid seccesionist and non-existent regional conflicts in Sanaag and Sool.

Somalis in these parts of the country are enjoying some relative peace and progress now compared to the south of the country, but folks I tell you if they don't wake up to the dangerous tricks of war mongers like Egal and Abdullahi Yussuf in good time, they will soon find themselves in a dirty clan war which will take them back to much deeper in the mud than their brethern in the south.

When will Somalis learn that the only remedy to their problems is in peace? I just wonder or is it so that peace is kind of poision to us, as it never seems to be good enough to enjoy and cherish.

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Anonymous

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waxalatuugaayo afarta habroodlee ma ahanoo maxay awalba nootari jireen waa su aale intii aan weaxgartay wax ka sooguuraaya maahee wax uguuraaya ma arkin baabuur qudaar ah markii loodiro bnaabuur dad ah ay soo diri jireen go hana soo noqonina

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Gabaydhe

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Ceeb baa ka dhacday

Reer woqooyi way is ceebayeen oo sharaftii, marti gelin wanaaggii soomaaliyeed ayey meel kaga dheceen. War maxay ku dhacday in walaalihiin Soomaaliyeed oo ergo shir nabadeed idiinku yimi aad iridda ka furi weydaan? Waa ninkii Jabuuti ka soo duulay. Alla maxaad dadnimada ka cayrowdeen. Xataa haddaad wax diidayso waxaa jira siyaabo shraf leh oo loo diido. Haddaydaan Soomaali rabin cidina idinku khasbi mayso, laakiin waa maxay dhaqan ugaareedka aad beryahan lasoo baxdeen. inaad cadowyo badan iyo magac xumo ku samaysataan mooyaane u malayn mahayo inay sharaf idiin tahay. Bal aan dhowrno dhaan baa maqane.

Reer Puntland, siiba reer Garoowe sharaf, geesinnimo iyo Soomaalinnimo ayey muujiyeen markay oodda jebiyeen oo amarkii Cabdullahi Yusuf iyo qoryihii askartiisa ka dul tallaabsadeen si ay usoo dhoweeyaan walaalohooda reer Jabbuuti oo nabadda iyo heshiiska ugu yeeray.

Maxaa sidaad oo kale looga waayey reer Hargeysa Waa yaabe Ina Cigaal miyuu sixray reerka?

Soomaali diidow
Dabin baa kuu dhigan
Lagagu dili doonee
Dadkaagaa dhinac ka raac
Hooy hooy dhinac ka raac

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BUTAWAYNE

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NIN NAFWAAYEY BAAJANOOY LEH
KUWA KA FALOONAYA SOMAALILAND SOOMAALIYA KAMA GOI KARTO HORTA HAKA FEKERAAN MEEDAY SOOMAALIYA WAAN KA XUMAHAY INAAN FIKRAD ISWAYDAARSANO DAD AYHAYSATO DHIBAATADA MAANTA QOFBINIAADMIYA HAYSATA TA UGU XUMI OOAY WELIBA USII DHEERTAHAY XAASIDNIMO
AY KA XUNYIHIIN IN QOFKALE NOOLAADO WAXAAN IDIIN RAJAYNAYAA IN EEBO CAAFIMAAD IDIN SIIYA MAANTA WAXAAD KA HADASHAAN IDIIMA BANAANA WAXAA TAAGANTIHIIN MAAHMAADII AHAYD (MIDGAANTU INTAY GUDE NAAKALE NADIIFINAYSAA KEEDU URAA)

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nathen

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alylhe waxbaa ka dhacay tolow saaxiibkay hilaac kaguu ka baxay baryahan lama arage.
reer soomaaliya ka warma shirka jabuuti maxaa kasoo bixi kara kumaa madaxweyne u dooranesaan, ina caydiid mise cali mahdi, mise cabdilaahi yousuf nin kale oo khatar ah yaa jir aisna waa shaati guduud oo abkey dooli dile, digiliyo midhif, doofaar iyo dameer oo dhan wata walee maantuunbey u darantahay wixii hore saleeley ahayde waxaan ka baqayaa inaad xataa qurbaha isku cuntaan maad soomaaliland intaad ilowdaan aayahiina ka ta shataan.

gabaydhe
waxaan u malaynayaa isfiilato ayaad qaadey sidaad munaaqnimo uga shaqayneysey, aleylehe imaan laawihii syaad sheegey ayaad tahay.
soomaali doonow adaa daali
xakuun dinida ka raac

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nathen

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alylhe waxbaa ka dhacay tolow saaxiibkay hilaac kaguu ka baxay baryahan lama arage.
reer soomaaliya ka warma shirka jabuuti maxaa kasoo bixi kara kumaa madaxweyne u dooranesaan, ina caydiid mise cali mahdi, mise cabdilaahi yousuf nin kale oo khatar ah yaa jir aisna waa shaati guduud oo abkey dooli dile, digiliyo midhif, doofaar iyo dameer oo dhan wata walee maantuunbey u darantahay wixii hore saleeley ahayde waxaan ka baqayaa inaad xataa qurbaha isku cuntaan maad soomaaliland intaad ilowdaan aayahiina ka ta shataan.

gabaydhe
waxaan u malaynayaa isfiilato ayaad qaadey sidaad munaaqnimo uga shaqayneysey, aleylehe imaan laawihii syaad sheegey ayaad tahay.
soomaali doonow adaa daali
xakuun dinida ka raac

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Somalilander

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Waar yaadha ma daashaan miyaa?

Suáal horta hadaanu nahay reer Somaliland yaan raacnaa?
Ma waxa aan raacnaa Puntland, Jubaland, Riverland ama Hiiranland?
Yaan raacnaa?

Takale nin reer Puntland ahi ma aha in uu ii sheego meesha aan raacayo!
Yaa ku siiyaay xaq aad iigu sheegto meesha aan raacayo?

Somalillander

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Anonymous

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WELL, SOMALILANDERS IF THEY WANNA RULE AND SEPERATE THEIR OWN LAND FROM OTHERS IS FINE.AND I BELEIVE THAT WON'T HURT THE REST OF SOMALIA 'CAUSE JABOUTI, UGADENIYA AND DNF USE TO BE SOMALIA AND WHATSOEVER AFTER THEY BEEN SEPERATED FROM SOMALIA WE ARE STILL FINE.SO I BELEIVE THEY SHOULD DO IF THATS WHAT THEY DESIRE AND WILLING TO DO.

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Xiddig

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Daaroodow waa yeelkadiin
Garaad dameer baad sidaan
Guyaal sheekadii ahaayd?
Dunidu waa galaba cayn
Hadhakaas labadiisa gelin
ilbixuu wuu gaadhayaa

Markaa dowlad dhisatiin baad
Gaawa loo soo cushaa
Golaha yaa idinku jiraa
Goorma laga tagay warkaa!!!
Dowladii way burburtoo
Somaliwayn waa laga noqdee
KA GOOYA CALOOSHA TAA

Gayigu waa badan yahee
Aduunka dal udoonta oo
Ha gocanina wacaal horee
Goo'aankana Gamta uun ka raac

MA QASABAA GOOBTAYAAL!!!

Good Bye Jaaw
gacalayaal geestaad
doontaan u'qaata oo
Gamuuran gama oo
Gayaxan.

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LIQOO

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LoL@Xiddig;
Waryaa, maanta ayaad u soo heshay.
MA QASABAA GOOBTAYAAL!!!!

Good Bye Jaaw
gacalayaal geestaad
doontaan u'qaata oo
Gamuuran gama oo
Gayaxan.

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Maqo

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Heestan waad u heshay Xiddig

Halka Darood waxaan odhan lahaa Somaliwayney waa yeelkadiin.

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MOORGAN

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TO REBELS

SAAXIBAYAALOW CAQLI XUMADAS IYO MAANGABNIMADAS MAXAMED SIYAAD AA IDINKU BAABI'YAY SOMALI HAL WAYE CIGALE CAQLI XUME XAMARS JOOGI JIRI EE MARKALE HADAAD RABTIIN SIDII 1988 DII TOOKADAN ANAA IDIN RUSHAYNAAYO MIDDA KALE NATHIN DIGIL IYO MIRIF WALIGOOD SIDIINA CAMAL INTAY FALLAGOBEN OO HALLABEN OO DEE CADAWW LA HASHIYEN OO TEE DALKII GATEEN DEETANA MAXKAMADDA BADBAADADA KUMAYAN XUKUMIN IN LA RUSHEEYO OO WALLAHI XITTAA AABAHAY KA MID AHAA DUULIYAYAASHII FALLAGADA BAABI'YAY

SOOMALIYA WAA HAL NATHINA ADIGA CID KU WASTO RAADSO CIGAAL IYO C/RAXMANTUUG WAS ANNAGA HADDAD HADAL KU IMAN WAYSIIN QASAB AA LA IDINKU SOO CELINNAA TALO KALE WADDANKA ANNAGAA LEHE ORODOO ISRA'IL AADA.AMA BRITAIN SORY BRITAINKU LO'WAALANBAA U JOOGTA EE DAD WAALAN TABARMA U HAAYAN

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M-deeq

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To, all
Waa salaamantihiin dhamantiin.
Waan na soconaa dhamaandhibaatadii samaliland soogaartay ee ya laillaaabin aniga xitaa dhibaata ayaaiga soogaartay laakiin wwa arin eebaqoray ee maxaalagaqabankaraa.
Marka Somaliland waa dad dantooda gartay ee haleeska daayo hadey cidna dhibayn oo dagaalo iyo qabyaalado wadanba .erayga somali hadii ladoonayo marka hore ninwalba gobalkiisa hasoodhisto sida s/land markaas halaga hadlo erayga soomali hamidowdo.

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nathen

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to morgann
waar cawaan yahow soo baro afsoomaaliga waxu ma adoon adoon dhaleybaa tima adag fooqal timada adag, walee ineydaan dib uga xamaaley soomaaliland musuqulihii iyo dharkii aad noo maydhi jirteena Ethoipian ayaan u diraneynaa

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A/samad Abdille Osman

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TO: DHAMAAN UMMADDA SOMALILAND(waa siday yiraahdeene)
From:Walaalkiin A/SAMAD ABDILLAH OSMAN.
WALAALAYAAL WAA SU`AALE MAXAYNU KU FALAYNAA GOOSASHADA IYO GOONI SOCODNIMADA??.
MAXAASE INOOGU WACAN INAYNU DOORANNO GOONI ISU TAAGGA AAN MACNAHA LAHAYN??
WAALAYAABE HADDAYNU SOOMAALINAHAY:MA INNAGII BAA KALA CARARAYNA REER GALBEEDKII INAKALA GOYN JIRAYNA WAY ISKU KEEN CEL-CELINAYAAN??
MA DHIBAATADII UU RAJIIMKII SIYAAD BARRE INOO GAYSTAY AYAYNU KU NACNAY MIDOWGII UMMADDEENNA ??
OO WAA LAYAABE SOW SOOMAALI OO IDIL SIYAAD BARRE MASILCIN ? MACIDBAA KABAD-BAADDAY HOOGGII IYO BI'II UU DHIGAY MANNAXE SIYAAD??
WAXAAN SOO JEEDINAYAA IN DIB LOO EEGO AAYAHA ISKU DUUBAN EE UMMADDA SOOMAALI WEYN, FADLAN BAL MAR KALE ILAEEGA OO ILA AKHRIYA MASSIIRKEENNA GABIGA KASII DHACAAYA .
ANIGUNA WAXAAN KA FAKARAAYAY SIDII LOO SOO CELIN LAHAA SOOMAALIWEYNTII GEESKA AFRIKOO IDIL
IDINNA...???
WAADNA SALAAMANTIHIIN

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Sugaal

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With due respect to all of those who talk about Somaliland and its session, I say let go Somaliland and take care of your businesses before it comes too late. Somaliland is not aquiring its independence from anybody, but it has it all be it with or without little resources. Let your fertile country with two big rivers and plenty of bananas and mango satisfy you. Let our desert alone to us, its a heaven to us, where we live with diginity and without fear of anymore destruction and humilation which we sustained from the doomed unity.
We wish you the best and hope you put your house in order as we did without any outside help and without lavish five star hotels and intervention.
We are not saying we are better than you in anyway but the only thing that distiquishes us from you is, we know without law and order nothing materializes in this world.
I argue to stop name calling and freeze all the animosity, bury the spears, and think postively.
Bear in mind that we are the first people who got the independence among the "Greater Somalia" and brought the flag to Mogadhisho and united with the South unconditionally. In this sense, you don,t have to be annoyed if we reject to do business with you while your house is still burning!

"HA IGU DABA LUMIN, WALAAL"


Peace.

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Mahad

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Sidaa uu sheegay ninkoo Sugaal ah, haddii aan nahay reer Sud waxaa ila quman inaan iska deeyno reer Norad baa goostay, ee aan danteenna ka raacno.
Sida ay walaaleheen yeeleen ee ugu shireen dalkooda iniga maxaas saa kale inoo diiday intaan kolba Qaahira, Addis iyo Djibouti isku urusaneeno.
Marka aan walaalo ee dagaalka dhaafno ee dawlad wax u iig sameesano ka bacdi waa oran karnaa reer Norad ma isku darsannaa.
Dadkan aad arkeeso anigu waxaa la joogay sanakii hore (1999)waa meel aad ka garanayso in dawlad wax la yiri ka jirto oo kala damabayn iyo nidaam leh.
Wax kasta sidii loo yaqaani ayay u shayn hayaan.
Cid wax dilayso amma wax kaa xadayso ma aad arkaysid. Waaryaa sidaas oo kale aan noqono oo soo ceshanno sharaftii dadnimada.


Soo barya

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Samiir

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Sugaal

Wake up Mr dreamland, you are speaking as if the separation of Somaliland is agreed upon by all the communities in the north. Wrong!. There are many people in there who do not want to separate themselves from the rest of Somalia. What the heck is Abdirahman Tuur doing in Djibouti and what did Mr Egal say, any Somalilander who talks to other Somalis about peace will be executed. What a shamefull cheap crap from a man who is continiously blaming his dead teacher Siyad Barre on oppression and afduub, tell me how does the two man differ now?

Forget about the south for a minute and tell me who said there is complete agreement on the separtion among all communities in the north?

Please don't mix things and tell blain lies in other people's names, that is called Jujuub and it will never work.

There is kind of sick behaviour going on in Hargeisa these days and it is very hard to comprehend its causes. Let us just watch and see where things end up.

Samiir

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Sugaal

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Samiir,

Everybody in this world is entitled to his/her opinion and at the same time thinks he/she is right. Call it dreamland or whatever which I have been hearing for last 9 year does not change a bit about the people of Somaliland the path they have taken.
When it comes to the people you claim are against Somaliland decision, you have to know they were there ever since 1991 and my real brother is included. Its his point of view as the others and exercise his rightful rights.I assure you as many of them came back to their sences, the rest will follow and will contribute nation building.
Secondly there is no "afduub" and opperession as you put it and this mere govenment is composed according to the traditional lines and I am not claiming its the best of all but things may change with time.
Regading the comparison of Egal and Barre I am afraid to give you a hint about them, because I dispise them both equally. Tuur is an oridnary citizen now and free to seek his way of life as he wishes. In this matter, whoever tries to japordize the coexistence and the peace environment which Somaliland people achieved in the hardy is classified as act of treason and he/she/them will not be taken lightly.

Lastly but not least, Somaliland is not at war with nobody so, its not necessary reconcile with anybody, and the real agenda of Djibouti is "Somali Reconcilation Conference" period.

I hope this may answer some of your questions.

So long

Sugaal

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Non-Somalilander

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Somaliland Affecinatoes, here is evidence of Warlord Egal’s Desperate measures to hold on to power and make Dreamland a reality. This Text has been circulated to the Arab World, those of you in DC vicinity do you civic duty and distribute this text to Arab Embassies!


Title : So called Somaliland wants to be part of Jewish nation


Text of the letter sent by fax to former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak
Rabin by President of the Republic of Somaliland Mohamed Ibrahim Egal.


Republic of Somaliland The PresidencyOur Ref: SLR/PO/ISPMI/7/95
Your Ref: .......................3 July 1995Hargeisa
His Excellency The Prime Ministerof Israel Mr Yitshak Rabin

Hakirya, Fax No. 972 2 513 950Jerusalem, Israel.

Your Excellency

Establishing Strategic Partnership with the State of Israel
In my capacity as the President of the Republic of Somaliland, an admirer
of the state of Israel and the courage of its people, please accept my
compliments and my people's profound felicitations to you, your Government,
President and the people of Israel for their tenacity, strength and
resourcefulness which had finally constrained its adversaries to make peace
with the State of Israel.

I have the honour of representing the people of
Somaliland and its nascent state in this opportunity for seeking to
establish amiable and strategic links with the State of Israel.
It is important to note that our two nations have had strong links since
time immemorial. Indicative of such historical links, stretching well
before the advent of Islam to this date, is the influence of the Hebrew
culture in Somaliland and how Jewish legends and their mystical powers are
widely acknowledged and homage paid to them. In addition, the people of
Somaliland are appreciative as they have an indelible memory of the fact
that Israel was among the first three countries who recognized Somaliland
after it declared its independence from Britain on 26th June 1960, alas,
that independence lasted no more than four days as Somaliland entered into
a voluntary union with the UN Trust Territory of Somalia on 1st July 1960,
in the hope of creating Greater Somalia.
Exactly, thirty five years later, the dreams of Greater Somalia are
discredited and disavowed. It was under the union with Somalia that
Somaliland found itself a pathetic captive within a ruthless, destructive
and hostile state. Indeed, it was this union whose culmination was the
tyrannous and repressive regime of the late Siyad Barre which brought
about the enormous suffering, starvation and destruction in which the
world had witnessed and came to notice, too well, during the past five
years or so. The people of Somaliland have renounced such a union in May
1991 and reclaimed their independent sovereign entity, and nothing will
make them reverse the decision to extricate themselves from the captivity
of Somalia.

The vice-president and the Foreign Minister of Somaliland have, recently,
paid an official visit to Eritrea and while there met H.E. Ariel Kerem,
the Ambassador of Israel in Eritrea, who furnished them with valuable
advice and suggested that I, the President of Somaliland, should write to
your Excellency, as the Prime Minister of Israel, in person, informing you
about Somaliland's eagerness to establish an ex parte relationship based
on strategic partnership with the State of Israel and sharing with you
about my government's concerns and fears vis-a-vis the alarming menace
emanating from the expansion of Islamic influence in our strategic region.
As I am sure you are aware, at the height of the cold war Somalia's
strategic geographical location was acknowledged by both sides (East/West).
Today, however, although the West had won the cold war and
the threat of communism appears to be vanishing in many parts of the
world, we, in the Horn of Africa, are being threatened by a more sinister
and pernicious enemy in the form of encroaching Islamic influence. It
would be true to say that the State of Israel and its people are, perhaps,
more aware and alert of such threats than most other countries, and know
how perilous and pestilential the spread of Islamic influence would mean
for the entire region.

The political upheavals which have been taking place in the Horn of Africa
and the lack of stability in the region could be aggravated further if the
influence of Islamic Fundamentalism is not curtailed or contained very
soon. Somaliland's concern is reinforced by the growing influence of the
Saudis and the pro-Islamic Yemen, particularly ever since it had crushed
and defeated the South Yemeni's courageous attempt to forsake or renounce
its union with the north. Discovering that Eritrea is not interested [in]
to act as an Arab satellite, both Sana' and Riyadh, as well as Khartoum
(not to mention how pariah states like Iran and Libya are meddling into
the internal affairs of my country), are now directing their efforts to
force Somaliland to forfeit or withdraw its independence with the
intention of installing a pro-Islamic Somali state (under a federal
Somalia). This will most definitely render the control of both the north
and southern coasts of the Red Sea to pro-Islamic regimes, with the
exception of Eritrea and the miniature state of Djibouti which has no
significance leaving the whole region to become a bed-rock for Islamic
influence.

Your Excellency, my government firmly believes that owing to this region's
strategic geopolitical importance as a result of its propinquity to the
oil routes and the narrow Babul-Mendeb entrance, as well as its proximity
to the Gulf, the Middle East and the access to the Indian Ocean, it will
be highly deleterious if such a strategic region falls almost entirely
under the dominion of pro-Islamic regimes. Needless to say that this
should be a portentous eventuality which will in turn adversely affect the
national security of the State of Israel, and that of other countries in
the Horn of Africa who are trying to recover from years, if not decades,
of both man-made and natural disasters i.e. civil wars, military coups,
draughts and famines, etc. In addition, since countries in the region are
not politically stable the encroachment of Islamic influence will most
certainly have a destabilising effect. For instance, in Ethiopia with its
various nationalities and particularly with its large Muslim population,
the expansion of pro-Islamists in the region would act as a tinder-box
with the potential to enflame the entire region.
Although the people of Somaliland are over 98% Muslims, they are,
nevertheless, averse to adopt an antiquated Islamic Sharia Law as their
way of living and governance. In contrast my government intends to make
Somaliland a beacon of democracy and oasis for stability in this region of
upheavals and turmoil. But this is unlikely to happen in the present
climate, as we are ranged against by strong and powerful Islamic proxies
whose primary aim is to put out such an illume of hope. A foretaste of
what will happen if dark forces of Islamists will succeed in their pursuit
of bringing in a passé or an out-moded system, could be seen in Mogadishu
today, where a de facto administration from a coalition of Islamic proxies
and minority tribal groups headed by not so long ago UN/International
fugitive warlord General Aideed, where Islamic surrogates have been
infringing people's human rights with impunity; people are being stoned to
death for committing no crime other than fornication; and limbs are being
chopped off for petty crimes such as mugging and burglary in a barbaric
inhuman and uncivilised manner. My government has, in lieu of imposing
Sharia Law on our people, just completed the draft of a new secular
Constitution which is very liberal and mundane, for I am conscious that
Sharia Law does not reflect the needs of my people who are aspiring to
become a modern society.

Pro-Islamists are hell bent on spreading their influence & version of
Islam in the region, and are exploiting the plight of the people of
Somaliland. Islamists are the kind of people inspired by a boundless hate
who could even exculpate and excuse the crimes of the Holocaust. They have
scant regard of the dire needs of the Somali people. All they are
interested in is to have their way and are pouring arms and funds to
set-up a pro-Islamic regime in our country and establish more Islamic
proxies throughout the region. Their modus operandi is to take advantage
of people's predicament and impose unsuitable Islamic regimes upon and
unsuspecting people. Somaliland is doing all it can to be a bulwark
against the spread of Islamic fundamentalism and sees this as an
international issue, thus would appreciate it if your Excellency would use
your good offices & enormous influence in the West, particularly in the
US, to alert them about the portentous/ominous situation developing in
this region, so that they would not remain hapless on-lookers while their
national/international interests are being threatened. I am absolutely
certain that those Arab countries noted above, as well as Iran, will
whip-up Islamic/Arab passion against Somaliland establishing amiable &
strategic partnership with the State of Israel and thus could use this as
a pretext to exacerbate our situation further both inside and outside
Somaliland. However, those countries need to know that my government is
not playing with empty emotions, as they often do, but playing pragmatism
and real politick for the best interest of its people and country. The
people of Somaliland have a daunting and onerous task to overcome their
Islamist adversaries and contain the encroachment of Islamic influence,
considering their strength, however, we are like David facing Goliath, but
then there were an overwhelming odds against Israel when it defeated Arabs
in three major wars. In order to surmount such an onerous task my
government needs the support and assistance of the State of Israel, not
only to defend our nascent state from the menace of pro-Islamist dark
forces, but also in terms of relief, rehabilitation and reconstruction of
this devastated country. In this regard my government has a number of
priority areas where your Excellency's assistance is pivotal to the people
of Somaliland, among these are: First, military equipment and counter
insurgency experts. Second, conducting plebiscite on the issue of
independence at the end of next year 1996 or early 1997. Third, relief and
rehabilitation aid as well as development advisers, petroleum and mineral
exploitation expertise. The people of Somaliland have full confidence in
their government and are absolutely behind me in this historic decision of
establishing strategic partnership with the state of Israel and I am
determined to see it come into fruition. shalom I have the honor to remain,
Your Obedient Servant Mohamed Ibrahim Egal President Republic of Somaliland

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Somalilander

Unrecorded Date
TO non somalilander

Viva la viva President of Somaliland.
He is more then president. We love him. I wish that he wrote this letter. That letter is writen of "Itixad and reer Boosaaso". And every somalilander know that. Itixad started war aginst Somaliland. And this letter is one of their silly attemp to find more people on their side.


First off all even unlettered man can easly understand that this letter was not from Somaliland state, couse a letter from a president would not writen like that kind off language. And when you say give this letter to arab embassies is clear that reer Boosaaso wrote this letter.

Dont you know that Iran and Somaliland both countries have good relation. Somaliland will export lifestocks to Iran and Iran will export things that we need to Somaliland.
Egypt is an arab country and helping Somaliland.
Why arabs like U.A.E are not baned these ships from Somaliland. May be as we know that reer Boosaaso is allways eager, you want that arabs ban ships to Berbara and the new destination will be Boosaaso.


This game is old, it is you reer Boosaaso who know this kind off dirty games. We know that Siyad Afwayne told arabs that we were jews and he wanted to to gett help from anabs. Libiya and Irak were ready to give him nervgases so that Afwayne could massacrate us. Luckly the focus was on the Golfwar and both countries hade not time to help Siyad afwayne.

And we know who is using religion to manipulate somali people, they are from one family. look all these so called sheiks, they are all from Puntland. Sometimes I see young men and women from puntlnad out in the disco and next time they are telling me that they are realy muslims. They are using the religion in a wrong way. All Puntlanders have a commen idea, and their idea is:use the religion and all somali people will obey and listen to you. Look closely all these new sheiks are from Puntland.

We somalilanders listen only our own Sheiks. Couse we can trust them. Reer Boosaasos sheiks were telling under Siyads regime that it was right to massacrete us. We were muslims when all somalination were against us and we are muslims today, and somalians know that they can live in piece in Somaliland, and we will be muslims untill the end off this world.

SOMALILANDER

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Duni

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Somalilander

You sound very excited about so called "Somaliland". No single country in the world recognizes you as a country. It is just matter of time eventually you will bring the funny looking flag to Mogadisho with your blessing, as you did before.
I was surprised by the colors of your so-called "Somaliland" flag, Saudi Arabia and Yemen logo, your warlords forget about David Star.
Keep dreaming while there is no legitimate government in Mogadishu.
Said Bare was a legend and will be remembered as a one. So stop the cheap insults against our hero Bare.

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SOMALILANDER

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Look who is talking!!!!!

Let us say if the question is "Who is going to Mogadisho?, we somalilanders are welcome there. But you reer Afwayne and reer Boosaaso will never appear there.
Why you dont go there, you have your houses. We all know the reason. Reer xamar will never let you to be there.

So, is it you or me the one who has the chance to choose. The answer is clear, it is me, Somalilaner.

Reer Afwayne and Puglanders keep on dreaming.
Or may be you are trying to see how we would be treated if we come to Mogadisho.
We are always welcome there. But today we chose to stay home. Couse home is sweat home.

Not only the colour, we will have even Cigals picture on our flag. Who gives you the rights to tell us what we should do. You are thinking that you are still in charge. That is over.

We choose what we pleased.

So please come with a new arguments!!!!!


SOMALILANDER

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Samiir

Unrecorded Date
Sugaal

Have you read the latest interview of Abdirahman Tuur with the LA NATION newspaper?. He said this when asked why did he quit the attempt of separating North Somalia from the rest of the country.

"I was high official and a diplomat in the previous goverment, I went to oppose it and joined SNM to fight against its malpractices, but it never read in the charters of SNM to separate that part of country from the rest of Somalia, that is why I am always for one united Somalia".

Now dear dreamlanders tell me what are the basis for dividing the hearts and minds of the people of Somalia, put emotions aside. And mind you there is no concensus among the peoples of the north to create a separate country. Sure there are some agreements to live together peacefully. There are Warsangeli's and Dhulbahantas in Sool and Sanaag who are clearly against the separations, and even all Isaaaqs are not united in the separation attempts. When did clan became a base for a nationhood? It never was and it will never will be, there must be some other ideologies to keep people together for a cause. You will butcher yourselves in the name of nonstop sub/sub/sub/sub clans or Habar Habar when all other clans leave you alone, any body who has open eyes and a sense of wisdom knows that from what happened in the lands of Somalia during the last ten years or so.

It is time to open eyes and look clearly what is good for the Somali people wherever they may be. Separation is fine with me if some people want it, but it has to be based on the truth and facts, not on clear lies and manipulations and mere emotions.

Viva Somalia, Viva Somalis -- Thanks to the people and the president of Djibouti for their attempts to bring peace to their confused brothers.

Samiir

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Samakaap

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Dreamlanders! -- what a correct name for the confused bunch in Hargeisa.

Wake up dreamers. The people of North Somalia want to live peacefully with their Somali brothers. Mad man Mr Murqaan Egal will not be able to stop those determined real Somalis to join their brothers in Jibouti in the pursue of nationwide peace, reconciliation and the rebirth of the great Nation of Somalis.

Hundreds of northern Somalis have arrived Jabuuti by walking all the way through the hundreds of kilometers despite Egal's all out attempts to stop them. These are the people I call heroes who will get a golden page in the history of Somali people, while mad dog Egal and the rest of his dreamers go hiding and tommorow and deny their crazy behaviour of today. Same honour goes to those brave Somalis who challenged another mad-dog Abdullahi Yussuf and jumped over his fences and bullets when he tried to stop them from joining the journey towards peace which started in Djibouti. Finally the great people fo Somalia are waking up and coming out of the shadows of selfish warlords who lied to them for so long in the name of useless clanism and ultimately failed in big ways.

We are watching, we are writing the history of Somalia, and history will be the ultimate judge of tommorow. There will be criminals and heroes in all clans and each will be dealt with accordingly.

Somalia is One Nation -- Always!


Samakaap

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sugaal

Unrecorded Date
Samir,

In regards to Mr. Tuur, its obvious to everyone that he man waco and what he said with Djibout propaganda machine has no gain of truth. A man that was a President for long two years and campagianed his country's recognition from the world community and then when he lost his seat suddenly changed his opinion by collaburating with kid warlord in Mogadishu in the name of what? You tell me!
The majority of people of Somaliland without menitioning tribal lines are behind the secession.
There is no 100% of certain tribe for or against it so far. No matter how long we argue about this will not change the fact on the ground.

From the line of your argument you are assuming me that I am in the linage of Egal simply infered me due to that I am advocating for the separation.
Bear in mind that Egal is not the one who came with the idea of secession, it the people who demand for it and he has no sole decision the future of Somaliland period.
The notion of Somalism is so new to some while others were there when thousands of innocent childern, women, and old were murdered in the name of Somalia. The blue flag with white star(it signifies the five parts of Somalia)in the middle was flying on the tanks and airplanes that sliced the minds and hearts of people where operated by Somali Army(don't give that Siyad Barre and Morgan crap excuse).

When all these killing were happening I have never heard one single person from the rest of Somalia who heartfully uttered a truth about the situation and brought the sense of Somalism on the table as they are outrageous doing nowadays in the internet chart rooms. And now you are saying the history will honor those you said the jumped the fence to paticipate this hap-hazardly organised so called conference. Who knows may be this one will revive souls and the future of Somalia and lead to the right path to solve their difference in a civilised manner rather than the tip of the sword.


Regards,

Sugaal

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Nabad

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Sugaal.

waan ku salaamay.

Waad ku saxsan tahay in maalintii la garaacayey Hargeysa iyo Burco aynaan jirin Soomaali ka hadashay arintaas. Daruufta waqtigas lagu jiray awadeed. waxa hogaanka hayeyna ma aheyn keliya dad ka baxsan reer Somaliland waxaa jiro qaar ka mid ahaa Dawladii waagaas jirtay oo ku raacsanaa waxa halkaas ka socday oo maantan dhinaciina durbaanka ka sida. Dad badan oo ku raacsanaa hawgalkii halkaas ka socday.
Waxaan xasuustaa maalintii ugu horeysay ee dagaalka ka dhacay Hargeysa wareysi lala yeeshay Tuur, In uu yirahday waynu goosanay oo waxaan nahay dawlad madax banaan, waxay shacbiweynaha Soomaaliyeed ku noqotay argagax. Arintaasna ayaa dhalisay in lagag soo horjeesto.Tusaalo ahaan hadaan ku siiyo hadaadan wax xogogaal ah aadan ka hayn Dagaaladii halkaas ka dhacay, marku Col.Cumar Jees ka baxsaday asaga iyo ciidankiisa Takiskii Siyad ayna u tageen SNM waxay ku yiraahdeen nalama galaysaan Dagaalka oo anaga waxaan wadanaa waa Dawlad gaar ah.
Dagaal haduu dhaco dhibaato way imaanaysaa waa wax lama huraan ah. Qof Soomaaliyee oo raali ka ahaa ama ka noqon karo in rayid la laayo majiro,rayid la laayayna idinka uguma aadan horeyn ugumana aad dambeyn, ilaa iyo maanta way soctaa dhibaatada.........waxa lagu jiro waa Qarnigii 21naad Adduunka wuu ku fikirahayaa sidii loo midoobi lahaa oo wax loo wada qabsan lahaa si cadaalad ku dhisan,kan tabar daran sida loo taakuleyn lahaa i.w.m. Adiga oo maanta ku nool Dunida horumartay in aad sidaas u fakarto waa dhibaato weyn aan ku ekeyn Reerkaaga keliy balse Soomaali weyn oo dhan.
Hadaad Ogaan lahayd dhibaatada ka dambaysa kala go'a marna afkaaga kuma aadan soo qaadeen.

Salaan iyo nabad Soomali Weyn .


Nabad

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Samiir

Unrecorded Date
Sugaal

You said this:

>>When all these killing were happening I have never heard one single person from the rest of Somalia wholeheartfully uttered a truth about the situation and brought the sense of Somalism on the table as they are outrageous doing nowadays in the internet chart rooms>>

Dear brother

Can I ask where were you in the begining of the 80's when the millitary junta including lot of Isaaaq General's were killing innocent Majeerrteen civilians mercilessly, raping, maiming and poisoning wells under the orders of Siyaad Barre. Mind you also during that time the people of Hargeisa were singing Guul wade Siyaad -- Aabihii garashada. When are you guys waking up to see the true pictures of late Mohammed Siayd Barre, he was not killing Isaaaqs, he was killing anybody who tried to challenge his power including the members of his own family.

What comes to Somaliland, As one I have nothing against the honourable Isaaaq people, as a matter of fact I have great respect and admiration for all those Somali heroes and great men they have produced, and honestly I will not shed a single tear if they secede from the rest of Somalia if that is their choice and based on true representation of its people. Good luck to them from the bottom of my heart. What I don't like are the lies and undue manipulations of the facts. Something else I don't understand a bit is this strange bahaviour and non-stop whining, always playing the victim card as if they were the only people killed in Somalia. To me it is gross disrespect to all those millions of other Somali people from other clans whose endless sufferings cannot be described in any words and who are still suffering, but despite all they have been through, willing to forgive and move on for a better future and peace among Somali people.

Can somebody tell me what makes the lives of Isaaaqs more important than the rest of Somalis. I really would like to know.

Samiir

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Xirsi

Unrecorded Date
War Sugaal

Dadkani waxba yaanay afka kuu macaanayn Cadow aan iyaga ahayn malihine.Bal eeg Kan leh soomaalida koonfureed baa kasoo horjeeday ama ka xumayd dagaaladii waqooyigiga ka dhacaybaa,bal beenta intaa le,eg eega.Waxan Xasuustaa maalintii burco dagaalku ka bilowday Control keeda ayaanu habeenkii seexanay anagoo Hargaisa ka nimi oo Xamar u socono.Magaalada Laascaanood ayaanu soo gaadhnay duhurnimadii,waxan la yaabay qaylada iyo hayaayda ka baxaysa meeshaas,xataa dumarka ayaa raga makhaaxiyaha ugu imanayey oo lahaa waar ka kacaay oo guubaabinayey.Garoowe ayaanu soo Gaadhnay wayba kasii darayd,yaa dooroodaay ayaa ka baxaysay.War dowladeena aan ku dagaalano ayaa meel kasta ka baxaysey.Ilaa intaanu xamar kasoo gelayney dadka reer koonfurka ahi sidaasay isugu duubnaayeen,ul iyo diirkeedna way ahaayeen Dagaalada waqooyiga kadhacayeyna meel bay uga soo wada jeedeen.

Taa lama Yaabani oo dadkani waa cadowgeena koowaad,ee waxan la yaabanahay markay la soo shir tagaan soomaliland ma go,i karto.Wuxu ma waalan yihiin? Mise maskaxdaanay u istic maalin sidii loogu talagalay?

Doodana iska xidha ayaan odhan lahaa waayo kuma heshiinaysaan.Dadku waxay wax ku heshiiyaan markay isku dhaqan yihiin.Waxaynu u heshiin laanahay dadkan isku dhqan baanan ahayn,oo iyana meel bay wax ka arkayaan inana meel kale ,inkasta oo toodu 100% khalad tahay.Dadkan 1960 ka hor is maynu aqoon.1960-1988 ayaynu is baranay intaasaana inooku filan.

Caruurteena caruurtooda aynu aayahooga ka tashano intaynu iska ilownu wuxuushatan

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Sugaal

Unrecorded Date
Samiir,

It is fact that there are so many individuals who committed heinous crimes against the people and are from every tribe, those guys will prosecuted according to the law.
When these things crimes where happening in the Mudug area (1980's) as you put it, it was felt in the north and struggle was simmering and so many things were happing behind the scenes. I could remember years before those incidents when the poet Qaasim was narrating to the people the real face of the regime by saying " Anaga iyo Saleebaanadii wayna sidataaye ……"
In the mean time how come you guessed I was not in the country and I did not taste my part of the hell that my fellow citizens were in.
Though I should not be supposed to give you the story of life, but for the sake of it I was imprisoned while I was in the intermediate school and two of my classmates were sentenced to death simply by not singing for the Father of the Knowledge, this was 1972. This will shed light the early awareness the people of the north about the "kacaan" and its intentions. I was there and witnessed when the whole hell broke loose!

I hope you were aware when murders were committed on the beaches of the capital and jails were filled with exclusively selected members while an attempt to annihilate an entire sector of nation was underway. Due to these inhuman actions and alike a remedy for the problem at hand can not be reached by sarcasticaly saying "stop whining for the past" and things to this effect that will not take us anywhere. This matter can not be taken lightly and few empty words of false nationalism will not cut it
As long as you are in a state of denial about the atrocities of that magnitude, which was committed against us in the name of Somalia, is not gonna work to discuss anything at all.
Somalis claim that they are 100% muslims but this did not deter them not to buy the property looted by the soldiers and their regime supporters from northern regions which was brought in the big markets of Mogadisho the nation's capital. Instead of staying away they rashed to buy in the intention that it belonged to traitors of the nation as the regime wanted them to see or what the moral of the public was.

The white Americans always answer back to African Americans whenever they demand to admit the inhuman acts of slavery committed against the African people by their ancestors to stop whining about the past history which in turn without curing the root of the matter things would not be solved easily.
As for those of Somalia its your common ground to hide behind the shade of Somalism as we the northerns has put the last nail on the coven in the demise of the nation.
History is my witness, the people of Somaliland had suffered a lot for the name of Somalis many years, be it the struggle of independence of Ogadenia, NFD, Somalia and lastly the Djibouti which at last took its independence and stayed aside when it realized the situation in Somalia and what the union has achieved so far.
In several occasions question were put to former President Hassan Gulaid and current President Ismail Gelle himself, why not unite with the rest of Somalia since they were part of "Greater Somalia". Do you know what their answers were? "This concerns the people of Djibouti. "
In this regard I don't understand why its so difficult to realize that the people of Somaliland could take their determination and we become two neighboring governments with a lot in common and live peacefully ever after.
As you put it, do not care about us if go alone and I hope no one else could shed a crocodile tears for us any more.

Peace


Sugaal

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Non-Somalilander

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SPR Urges Immediate Release of Detained Somali Intellectuals

Story Filed: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 5:06 PM EST

Burao City (Somali Peace Rally, May 17, 2000) - The Somali Peace Rally (SPR) is gravely concerned about the recent detention of Somali intellectual, Mr. Abdi Hashi Abdillahi, by Somali north-west regional security authority (Somaliland), who was arrested for having participated in current Somali peace process in Djibouti.

The SPR calls for Mr. Abdullah's immediate release and strongly urges the authority of northwest region (Somaliland) of Somalia to respect the fundamental rights of freedom of expression.

We believe that all Somalis in that region should enjoy those rights as the democratic process develops in those parts of Somalia (including northeast region of Somalia, Puntland).

The SPR also calls on the regional authority of northwest of Somalia (Somaliland region) to promptly investigate the circumstances of Mr. Abdullah's detention and torture, and to bring those responsible to justice.

The regional constitution of northwest authority (Somaliland region) clearly underlines the safeguard of civil laws, including freedom of expression.

Accordingly, we, the Somali Peace Rally (SPR), strongly urges the regional authority of north-west (Somaliland region) of Somalia to ensure the safety of region's Somali intellectual, Mr. Abdi Hashi Abdillahi, and that of his associates.

Somali Peace Rally (SPR), Burao City, Somalia, contact e-mail: sprally@hotmail.com Distributed via Africa News Online.

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Samiir

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Sugaal

I like your way of arguing, eventhough you are still full of emotions as all other Somaliland campaigners, to me you seem to be one the few who can argue with some rationality (however small) on the issue.

My dear, I have never denied the atrocities committed against Somali people in the north, I never did and never will, but what I am saying is that the former regime of Siyad Barre and his junta (which included all clans) caused unimaginable crimes against all Somalis, yes at the end things turned dirty clanish, but in the begining the regime was not killing for clan, it was killing for power and it crushed anybody who challenged their authority. And the warlaords who came after him. We all know about them don't we?

SNM started as anti-Siyad but turned into anti Daaarood movement. I am Daaarood myself from Hargeisa and I know everything that went on there. I was in one of those bloody student's demonstrations in Hargeisa when the innocent teachers were arrested and WE the Somali students irrespective of our clans went marching in the streets with loud slogan "Down with Siyaaad". All of a sudden to our surprise we have heard people shouting "Down with Daaarood". It was shocking beyond believe as we considered the whole thing as non-clanish anti goverment appraisal. To me that was on of the days when what started as an appraisal against bad goverment was transformed into inter-clan skirmishes which consumed us all in the end.

Later on, our lifelong neighbours came to us with a gun and enormous hostility we never understood. They killed some of our loved ones and looted our houses. We run away with our lives and moved to Mogadisho until USC came with a grind to kill any Daaarood that moves, children were thrown from high buildings, helpless elders were butchered, pregnant mothers were slaughtered .. so on and so on. I hate whining about it but some people should know that these innocent civilians felt the pains like any other human being.

Now Mr Sugaal and all those of you who are endlessly repeating the crimes commited against Isaaaqs, what did we do to deserve all other than belonging to Daaarood clan? how come you keep on whining your treatment all the time and deny the fate of all those millions of other Somalis who suffered in the hands of Siyad Barre and those who came after him?. Why are we willing to forgive and reconcile with our Somali people after all that we went through, and you keep on throwing ever increasing hostile attitude towards anything that is Somali, to the extent that you want to divide the land into mini-clanlands? why do you think that every Somali clan that was roughed can lift their necks up stiff and say we want separate country as you do? Do you think they see honey in union while you see poison in Somaliness?

Whatever happened to Somali people, I suck my wounds and retire to my house in Laasaanood and wait for the day when my Somali people wake up and see what is good for all of them. I am willing to forgive (not forget) but I am not going to accept anything less than One Somali nation. So please dreamers in Hargeisa stop knocking my door, I don't trust you, I am the Daaarood you were chasing yesterday, I am the one you were calling Faqqash, I haven't changed to anything, I am still Daaarood and I don't understand what happened to you guys when you are calling me to join you in your attempts to separate your dreamland from the rest of the country -- No way, stop smiling for me, I don't take bribes as I am religious sufi with clean record from any crime. I am not a fool either and I can see the hidden knifes under your belts.

Somalia is One forever and nothing less than that is acceptable to any real Somali. Anybody who is out to divide the hearts and minds of Somali people will be considered big criminal by history. I would advice dreamlanders to come to their senses in good time before it is too late.

Samiir

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Mr

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Assalaamu Alaikum,
My brother Samir, it is unfortunate that we must dissagree, but to me you are the one who is caught up in the fervor of emotions. In short, the Barre (PBUH… we all must meet our moment of truth…) Regime without any argument was based on the empowerment of Daroods. The massacre and the genocide that took place in Bari were done so, to secure power as you stated. The Daroods had a family feud. Nothing more, nothing less. Coming back to what took place, YES it turned clannish because there was no other way to defeat the system, a token prince like yourself was rare who cared about the welfare of everybody. : ) Up untill 1991, it was THEM against US. More over, in that period, you went to class without a Green Dog harrasing you, and making deregatory remarks. When the principle came to your class, you sat as he mentally abused your classmates; as he intended to do, just because he believed they were supporting the SNM. When you say you where there in protest, let me be the first to congratulate you on your honor and bravery, too bad your father was not marching along with you and if he was your uncle and all the extended family. No offence, but you sound like a white man, who does not want to take the blame for Apertied. Nevertheless, after 1991, Somalilanders, from all walks of life vowed to bury the hatchet. Today, if you go to Hargeisa you wont hear Faqashh, but I can guarantee if you go to Mogadishu you will hear Qaldaan, if you are lucky enough not to be killed. : ) Now all jokes aside, The Darood Regime, did everything in its power to destroy the Isaaaq, and by the will of the Allmighty it didn't happen. This humbling experience taught us that you cannot extinguish people. That is why when the SNM took control of Somaliland it took the noble and the reasonable choice of reconciliation and co-habitation. Where as you tell us, the USC was doing a good job of eliminating you from Mogadishu. Today, Somaliland is the only place in the former Somalia where different clans share a common vision. Now, Somaliland has a long way to go; it is far from perfect, and I am the first to admit it. Lets be honest, ever since the UNION, nothing has been done in Las-Anod, or anywhere else in Somaliland. Today you see a 360 turn around and this is not because the government is a miracle worker, but the people have the LIBERTY to build their land, the same reason you were marching for back in the early 80's. Remember, those teachers and doctors got arrested because they were re-habilitating the Hargeisa Hospital. You know, the one you would have to visit if you got sick or would daddy ship you to Mogadishu ? : ) And really, if I hated you with all my guts, do you think you would live in Las Anod peacefully and would close your door when I came to share my vision with you, one of the last for me to convince Somaliland is the only way? Please lets use some logic. If you go back home you will see the majority want it, and you will see when we have a referendum. So please, stop being an armchair politician, and get on the BUS. One last thing, ask your self, why Djibouti is not sitting at the talbe for GREATER SOMALIA. I will leave that with you, peace and blessings, and Wa BiLaahi Towfiiq.

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Lady

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Mr.
Please tone down the "we have the higher ground myth, and holier than though attidue"

Siyaad Barre's corrupt regime had many Issaqs foot soliders. Granted the Barre regime committed a horendous crime of mass killing in the North, but this crime should be equally shared by the Issaq leadership and SNM who made the tactical mistaking of operating under the assumption that the thugs of Afweyn would not retaliate against civilians shooting at them from residential areas.
THERE IS A PRICE ONE PAYS FOR FAILING TO MAKE STRATEGIC CALCULATION OF POSSIBLE SCENERIOS!!!!

Another thing it is a pure lie when you claim that Somaliland is the only oasis of relative peace where people of different clan co-exist.
Look to your east brother.


Seccession ain't happening. Let there be a referendum in Somaliland and lets hear what the man and the woman on the street want without the interference of Egal's cronies.

Somalia hanoolaato; midnimmo haku waarto!!!

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Mr

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Asslaamu Alaikum,
Thank you Lady for your input, however you seem to be writing in haste. It seems this
emotional label Samir has given us Somalilanders will be erased once and for all, considering the manner you and brother Samiir ( I am appologetic I misspelled your name in the lastposting) have presented themselves. Now to respond to Lady, sister, it is very easy to generalize. To tell us, that it is the victims fault to take arms to defend oneself, and bear the responsibility of the barbaric and inhumane acts that the ARMY displayed is utterly absurd. This, kind of atrocity has never been witnessed any where else in the world; where hired mercenaries and ethnic nationals use fighter jets to demolish the same city that it took off from. Not to dwell on the past, your views concerning the above was surprising coming from an intelligent and eloquent sister as yourself. Furthermore, I never proclaimed Somaliland as the only place in the former Somalia that has peace. Please, don't jump to conclusion, I said its the only place where people from many different clans share a common vision and co-exist and have a uniform government. You asked me to look east, yes it is peaceful, as is many other regions of the south, but its only one clan, nevertheless anywhere in the former Somalia that is peacefull needs recognition and I am here to give your people a standing ovation, BRAVO! And I like your idea of let the people decide, you are right it is up to Somalilanders, not any one from Somalia. So please stop being spectators and get on with your lives, Somalia needs your help. If I were you I wouldn't loose sleep over Somaliland. Wassalaam Wa bilaahi Towfiiq.

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Lady

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Mr.... Somaliland is part of my life!!!!!! You want to pigeon-hole me and make me a foreigner from my brothers. I am Daaarood and I have every right to question and challenge everything that is happening in Somaliland. The notion that only Issaaqs can speak for somaliland is not acceptable!!!

Look, I understand the thinking of the power hunger Somali man (wether lander or not), who will neither stop, nor shy away from from destroying a nation to acheive a very parochical intersest. (look at Egal......doesn't he remind you of a gabaldaye ...sunflower that turns to where the sun is...daneeyste!!). But I urge all seccisionist minded individuals to thing big, and think beyond the rhethoric of men whose morality is questionable.

Seccesionist give out the false propaganda of speaking for all northerners. Sorry Mr. that is not the case. Neither is your allegation that the North is th only safe place with different clans.
Again, look to the east......it may belong to one clan, however, many different clans from the south and the west live and have prospered there!!

Take a word from a lady.....seccession ain't happening.

Lets talk about federalism, cause an Isaaaq only agenda is a mirage.

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SOMALILANDER

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KEEP ON MR ON!!! YOU ARE DOING GOOD WORK.
TELL THEM THIS, TO BE OR NOT TO BE THAT IS SOMALILAND. ONE TIME THEY ARE TELLING YOU WE WANT THE GREAT SOMALIA AND THE SECOND TIME THEY ARE SUPPORTING PUNTLAND. THEY THINK THEY CAN CHEAT ALL THE TIME. THAT IS OVER.


SOMALILAND CIYAAR KUMAY DHALAN

Maanta oo May 18 tahay Somaliland waxay u dabbaal-degaysaa maalintii
ay ku dhawaaqday gooni isu taaggeeda iyo inay la soo noqotay xornimadii ay
1960kii hanatay, ee ay u hurtay Soomaali-weyn.

Gooni isu taagga Jamhuuriyadda Somaliland ma aha mid ka dhashay jibbo iyo laab la kac, balse waa mid bilowday maalintii July 1,1960kii, markii xuquuqdii dalkani lahaa oo idil ay weyday.

Gooni isu taaggan 1991kii maanta oo kale rumoobay waxa halgankiisu bilowday sannadkii 1961kii iyo 1962kii markii saraakiisha Somaliland ay isku dayeen in maamulka dalka ay gacanta ku qabtaan, shacbiguna uu diiday dastuurkii Soomaaliyadii Talyaanigu gumeysan jiray loo diyaariyey.

Somaliland gooni isu taaggeedu waxa rabitaankeedu kordhay markii dalka Jabuuti oo la odhan jiray xeebta Soomaaliyeed ee Faransiisku gumeysto ay magaceeda ku beddeshay dhulka Canfarta iyo Ciisaha, kaddibna si ay ereyga Soomaali uga fogaato ula baxday Jamhuuriyadda Jabuuti, halkaana
himiladii in Soomaali weyn la helaa ay ku dhamaatay.

Xuquuqda reer Somaliland oo taliskii Muqdisho cagta hoosteeda dhigay iyo dareenkii ahaa in wax heshiis ah oo sharci ah oo labada dal dhexmaray
in aanu jirin oo siyaasiyiin iyo indheer-garad u dhalatay dalku bilaabeen inay fidiyaan.

Shacbiga reer Somaliland oo arkay in dhaqaalihii dalka iyo wixii dakhli ahaa ee laga helayay sidii gumeystayaashii reer Yurub inta dalka laga qaado dal kale lagu dhisayo, waddankanna aan wax la galinayn.

Kacaankii 1969kii iyo taliskii Afwayne oo rajadii dimuqraadiyada iyo in xaalku mar uun sidan dhaami doono ee la qabay oo gebi ahaanteed
meesha ka baxay.

Dhaqankii hanti-wadaagga iyo shuuciyadda oo dalka laga bilaabay, Madaxweyne Stalin sidiisiina dadkii reer Somaliland ee abaartii daba dheer ku dhacday, iyadoo dalka gudihiisa meela badan oo la dejin karaa jirto, meelaan dad iyo xoolo cimileedkeedu naasibeyn la geeyay.

Dhulkii ugu barwaaqa, masno iyo biyo badnaa ee dalka oo dad aan dalka u dhalan oo qaxooti lagu sheegay la dejiyay. Dadkaas oo dalka lagu beerayay sida la xasuusan yahayna qayb weyn ka qaatay markii shacbiga la xasuuqayay.

Dagaalkii 1977-1978kii markuu dhammaaday saraakiishii lafdhabarka u ahayd ciidanka ee u dhashay Somaliland oo la xasuuqay, iyaga oo aan dalka ku soo noqon ee weli jooga Soomaali-galbeed.

Si dalku aanu u lahaan raad-raac taariikheed oo muujinaya in Somaliland ahaa dal xor ah, oo gooni u taagan, Ingiriisna gumeysan jiray ayay qaar ka mid ah badhasaabyadii shacbigan xukumi jirey tirtireen.

Dagaalka Somaliland lagu hayay oo heer siyaasadeed aan ku koobnayn, ayaa suugaantii Soomaaliyeed markii talisyadii Muqdisho ururinayeen ay ka tageen, dhowr qof oo ka muuqdana waxa loogu daray si maangaabka
iyo inta aan suugaanteenna iyo abwaanada dalka wax ka aqoon loo hodo.

Abwaannada u dhashay dalka Somaliland oo xabsiyada loo taxaabay, iyadoo aan kuwa reer Soomaaliya mid qudha laga xidhin.

Cuna-qabateyntii dhaqaalaha ee lagu soo rogay dalkan Somaliland ee ay ka mid ahaayeen joojinta Frank valuto oo taliskii Muqdisho arkay in dhaqaalaha Somaliland ku kobcay, shacbiguna uu horumar ku gaadhi karo. Joojinta ganacsiga Jaadka ee reer Somaliland aanay cidi ku tarrixi jirin iyo gubista beeraha qaadka.

Cabudhinta xornimada ganacsiga xoolaha. ENCE, ADC iyo kuwa la mid ah oo loogu tala-galay in reer Somaliland dunida ganacsiga lagaga saaro.

Shacbiga reer Somaliland si uu uga hadho dunida iyo dalkii Soomaaliya intiisii kale, waxa la dejiyey mideyn manhaj waxbarasho. Waxa macalimiintii u dhalatay dalka ee aqoonta lahayd la geeyey Soomaaliya, waxaana lagu soo beddelay
kuwii aflixin kari waayay dadkooda.

Cabasho wax loogu qaban waayey, waxa bilaabantay ka gilgilasho waxa loola dhaqmay sidii dal xoog lagu qabsaday oo la gummeysanayo.

Cadow wax uu ku kaco oo xadhig, jidh-dil, dhac, kufsi, dil iyo gumaad oo aan shacbiga Somaliland lagula kicini ma jiraan.

Bandooda lagu soo rogay ee duhurkii bilaabmi jirtay waxa la sheegaa in aanay naasigii iyo faashistigu ku kicin.

Bir ma geydadu markay ka samata bixi weyday ayuu halgankii dib u xoreyntu bilowday. Shacbigu wuxuu xornimada u huray naf iyo maal, wuxuuna ku guulaystay in uu dib ula soo noqdo xornimadiisa.

Reer Somaliland maanta waxay u dabbaal degayaan iyagoo xasuusan waxay soo mareen, una diyaar ah xoog kasta oo aadama ah oo isku daya in uu hagardaamo u geysto xornimadooda, jiritaankooda iyo gooni isu taaggooda inay naftooda iyo hantidooda ku difaacayaan.


SOMALILANDER

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Mr

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Assalaamu Alaikum,
My dear Lady, putting aside all the rhetoric, you cannot decide the fate of others, no matter your genealogical lineage. Case in point, Noah (SCW) could not decide the fate of his own son. Therefore, this notion you have that you can question Somaliland is false, and I would advice you to exercise your energy in finding a solution to Somalia. It is futile to build castles in the clouds and more so, to comment on Somaliland without being a Somalilander. Nevertheless, I will entertain your last posting, but I hope you will head my advice. First and foremost, Somalilanders are not power hungry, if they were they would have marched along the desert trek along the eastern and central provinces to the capital. That did not happen and thus you can deduce the logical reasons. However, to me you are the one who seems to want to outstretch your sphere of influence; which is Somalia. Now, to settle this comparison between the "east" as you put it and Somaliland: it is no secret that Somaliland is more stable in respects to the government, the judiciary, the police force and local administrations. The administration in the East will be the first to admit this due to its infancy. More over, my point is in Somaliland, you have 6 different districts, with 6 different clan majorities that are under one central authority. This is why, I see Somaliland not as a nation of a single tribe, but as a nation that is multi-ethnic. Thus enabling it to overcome the tribelism that has plagued Somalia. So please stop inciting "Qabyaalad" and calling Somaliland Isaaqq only agenda, you are insulting your brethren; implying they are children being led by the piper. Lastly, I think you are living in denial, it's not Egal or his cronies that wave the banner of Somaliland; it's the common woman and man on the street that have these convictions. I suggest in order to avoid high blood pressure, and premature aging (I'd love to see a pretty Somali girl keep her youth and good health ), stay out of this one, it is has already been decided. Time to bless your talents for a more worthy cause. ie, Somalia. Wassalaam Wa bilaahi Towfiiq

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Lady

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Salaaama Caleeykum Mr.
Despite your patronizing tone, I stand by my previous comments. I will bet on my soul that there isn't going to be a coutry called Somaliland, nor a legal state/entity that is regonized anywhere! So guess who is lying to themeselves after 9 years???????????

It is amazing to me how you have the audacity to tell me not to be clanish, while you are loyal to an idea created by the British!!!! The Daarrood living in North West Somalia are my brethen, I have full confidence in them that they will contain the Issaaq agenda.


To the other guy:
Puntland never entertained seccession, it is and will always remain part of Somalia. All clans co-exist peacefully, business is booming and great plans are in the pipelines. See, jumping ship, when the going gets tough is for the cowards.

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Mr

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Assalaamu Alaikum,
My dear Lady, it looks like our discussion is almost but finished. You are quite stubborn and persistent might I add. :) However, I keep informing you, you are wasting your time. Your vigilant and hostile statements about Somaliland becoming a nation is unwarranted. I hope you will remember we are still Somali, we still share common borders. We, will always be neighbors, and I hope you don't become senile when Somaliland has secured international recognition. Already, as you may have read in the news an Egyptian delegation has arrived in Somaliland, because of the visit to Cairo by the Foreign and Education Ministers. So please don't make life hard on yourself, please I beg you rest your mind for the complex problems in Somalia. And finally, I am glad you are confident in your brethren that live in Sool and Sanaag. And I hope their choice to establish Somaliland and remain vital pillars do not come between your relationship. I hope you can understand that Sool and Sanaag are in better shape today than before 1991; so don't be astonished as to why they would safe guard their born again country. Mind you this is not an idea that just came out of thin air, 1961, all the cities in Somaliland boycotted the constitution. Please go look it up in your history books. I hope you realize Somaliland is not about "Qabiil" but about democracy and freedom of liberty, attributes all Somalilanders couldn't find in their merger with Somalia. So lets be neighbors, three Somali countries, Djibouti included at the United Nations. My only comment of Somalia is that I hope Somalia will find solutions to its problems and not be the problem child of SOMALIS. Maybe our 3 votes can get back the remaining Somali regions in occupation. Wassalaam Wa bilaahi Towfiiq.

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SOMALILANDER

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Miss lady on; dont waste your time!

I wish i could see you now. I would like to bay your ticket to Mogadhisho. Its over. You know that its over. We all know who is the Boss in Mogadisho nu and it will remain in that way.
We all know who belongs to Mogadhisho. And it will never happen again that you "lady on" and your family will be in charge again. The only way "Somaliland" is upp. Oh! you cant talk like this to Habargidir, abgaal and their subclans.
There is somali prover, it says "ka yar iga hayo ka wayn igu soo daaya". Miss lady on , you know that we "somalilanders" are kind and cool. So, you dare to say such a words. But not to these hard ones in Mogadhisho.


LATEST NEWS FROM DJABUTI

Digil & Mirifle Delegation Threaten to Withdraw from the Somali Peace Conference

As the Somali Peace Conference entering its crucial final stage, the Digil & Mirifle clans, duped as 'heavyweight', are facing compounded problems in Arta and threatening to withdraw from the conference.

According to Digil & Mirifle delegation in Arta, the Djibouti Peace Process was hijacked by certain Somali groups and now it seems these groups are influencing the Djibouti officials to achieve their dubious goals.

This led Digil & Mirifle delegation to be skeptical about the objectives of the Conference. The latest report from Arta, however, indicate that Djibouti government attempted to have a say how Digil & Mirifle select their representatives for the Conference which is seen to be contarary to the initially plan for peace process.

A Somali newspaper reported yesterday that the organizing secretary of the
conference Mr Ali Abdi Farah tried to to mediate in the disagreement, however RRA officials objected to Djibouti's foreign affairs minister Mr
Abdi Farah, threatening to withdraw from the conference.

Unconfirmed report from Arta said the Digil & Mirifle delegation was denied their request for time extension to finalize their consultation in order to appoint representative for the Conference.

They were also denied initially to get access to telephone for two days to consult their leadership. Another newspaper reported today that Mr.Aden Qalinle, the Governor of Bay region, to have said that Djibouti government deviated from their original plan for the Somali Peace Conference and he demanded RRA delegation to be sent home on RRA own expenses.

Although there is no official statement from Djibouti government or from RRA officials in Baidoa, the informal sources indicate the the Digil & Mirifle delegation was exposed to unfair situation which put them in delicate position to contemplate to withdraw from the Conference.

The peace conference was aimed to bring a solution to millions of Somalis.
It's success will largely depend on fair share and unconditional discussion among all stakeholders where respect for all Somali citizens should prevail in all settings.

Intimidation or dominance of specific group/s will only lead to a renewed conflict. This article was distributed via ArlaadiNet.

SOMALILANDER

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Lady

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Somalilander, learn how to speak from Mr.
You completely missed by point. I am against seccesion and breaking up Somalia into pieces. period.

Midnimo and federalism.

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Lady with ya all the way. Thanks for the sound articulate input believe me this Dreamland idea with wither away too since the fundamental structure of this Dream is built on Clanisim that is Isakland and like any other clan oriented policies it will be matter of time before the Camel back is broken.

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Samiir

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Lady sister

Mr ego is trying to use the gender card to scare you away but I can see that you are up to the task of teaching hima lesson- sister'sway, just one brotherly caveat, don't waste your time reading what this good for nothing Somalilander writes. or heaven's sake the guy doesn't even know how to write anything clear. I call him macaac and I have been skipping his wriings.

hat comes to Mr... whatever follows that. My word to him is that fight up fight down. Somaliland is nothing more than dreamland for Isaaaqs, evenhtough they find it very hard to admit that even to themselves, they need other people to call minorities so that they don't eat each other alive. Keep this, The day when Mr Egal lands in Laasaanood as a president I will shed my blood for Somaliland, before that let the dogs bark and as the saying goes..Ha wareegto Giraantu

Either you Somali or you are not. Somalilanders are not Somalis.

Samiir

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Macow

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Samiir

The line below is what you said in responding to gentleman Sugaal:

"So please dreamers in Hargeisa stop knocking my door, I don't trust you, I am the
Daaarood you were chasing yesterday, I am the one you were calling Faqqash, I haven't
changed to anything, I am still Daaarood and I don't understand what happened to you guys
when you are calling me to join you in your attempts to separate your dreamland from the rest
of the country -- No way, stop smiling for me, I don't take bribes as I am religious sufi with
clean record from any crime. I am not a fool either and I can see the hidden knifes under your
belts."

Regarding your statement its obvious the hatefullness and animosity you have for the Isaaqs and for sure this is applicable to Hawiyes too since you told us that they chased you out of Mogadishu when you fled to it.
I think you have to realize that Daroods are the most despised tribe in Somalia so far due to what they did in both to people and country to safeguard their doomed realm.
From Hawye point of view I argue to stay put where you belong which is Somaliland and live safely with the rest of Somalilanders that gave the amenisty the day the conquered the whole north and still want you live and let live.
As for Mogadisho, never dream to come back and for those who call Somlia home, I mean the rest of Daroods they have to accept my terms if they ever try to share something with me.

Waa Macow

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SOMALILANDER

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This message is to Lady on.

Lady on, here you see what this somaliland woman is doing. Can you contact to her and tell her your cheap ideas?

SOMALILAND FORUM

Embargoed Friday May 26, 2000, Ref. SF/EC-013-2000


Media Release


Harking Back to Somali Irredentism is Not the Answer

After several weeks of debate at the Djibouti Conference on Somalia, the
conference participants have issued a communiqué in Mid May, 2000,
harking back to the Greater Somalia Irredentism, while completely
overlooking the reality in the Horn of Africa, in particular the
Republic of Somaliland.

The conference participants asked the Somaliland Republic (referred to
in this communiqué as the North West Region) and the Puntland Regional
Administration (referred to as the North East Region) and others to join
the conference. One might wonder why is the name of the Republic of
Somaliland taboo to the attendees and their hosts. We must keep in mind
that this conference is for Somalia, and not for Somaliland. The people
of Somaliland have reasserted their independence in 1991 and welcome any
initiative that would bring peace to their brethren in Somalia.

The communiqué starts with an intent to resurrect the failed Somali
state on the basis of justice, equality, unity and Islamic law. It
states that Somalis should forgive and forget the past. Nevertheless,
the attempted genocide, torture and murder of civilians in the former
Somalia cannot be forgotten nor forgiven and those responsible for
crimes against humanity must be brought to justice. If the participants
are proposing this for Somalia (not Somaliland), may we remind them,
that in all the countries, which have gone through similar atrocities,
there was never a question of asking the victims and survivors of those
atrocities to simply forget the past.

They say that the unity of Somalis is sacrosanct because Somalis have
the same language, culture and religion. This is harking back to Somali
irredentism of the 1960s, and, if pursued, it will lead to war in the
Horn. "The irony is that the hosts of the conference (the Republic of
Djibouti) are Somalis who share the same language, culture and religion
with all ethnic Somalis, but have, as is their right to
self-determination, chosen to remain as an independent state", said
Amina Malko, Chair of Somaliland Forum.

The communiqué is asking the international community to refrain from
supporting those who are opposing the conference. It is clear that this
conference is bent on recreating the former Somali State, which is an
undisputable formula for failure. The Somaliland people have already
decided their destiny and some of the people in Somalia are already
working on the ground away from the Conference in creating peace.

We wish them luck, but we implore the international community not to be
swayed by the utterances of this unrepresentative conference.

The Republic of Somaliland has already proven beyond doubt that it is a
peaceful, democratic and separate nation, as it has been for
three-quarters of the last century. "We urge the international community
not to be duped by the conference's blatant attempts to undermine the
peace and sovereignty of Somaliland. This will not lead to peace in the
region; in contrast, it could lead to anarchy, political upheaval and
war, which would be detrimental to the Horn at large", said Amina Malko,
Chair of the Somaliland Forum.


For further information, please contact

Ms. Amina Malko, Canada
Chairperson, Somaliland Forum

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SOMALILANDER

Unrecorded Date
This message is to Lady on.

Lady on, here you see what this somaliland woman is doing. Can you contact to her and tell her your cheap ideas?

SOMALILAND FORUM

Embargoed Friday May 26, 2000, Ref. SF/EC-013-2000


Media Release


Harking Back to Somali Irredentism is Not the Answer

After several weeks of debate at the Djibouti Conference on Somalia, the
conference participants have issued a communiqué in Mid May, 2000,
harking back to the Greater Somalia Irredentism, while completely
overlooking the reality in the Horn of Africa, in particular the
Republic of Somaliland.

The conference participants asked the Somaliland Republic (referred to
in this communiqué as the North West Region) and the Puntland Regional
Administration (referred to as the North East Region) and others to join
the conference. One might wonder why is the name of the Republic of
Somaliland taboo to the attendees and their hosts. We must keep in mind
that this conference is for Somalia, and not for Somaliland. The people
of Somaliland have reasserted their independence in 1991 and welcome any
initiative that would bring peace to their brethren in Somalia.

The communiqué starts with an intent to resurrect the failed Somali
state on the basis of justice, equality, unity and Islamic law. It
states that Somalis should forgive and forget the past. Nevertheless,
the attempted genocide, torture and murder of civilians in the former
Somalia cannot be forgotten nor forgiven and those responsible for
crimes against humanity must be brought to justice. If the participants
are proposing this for Somalia (not Somaliland), may we remind them,
that in all the countries, which have gone through similar atrocities,
there was never a question of asking the victims and survivors of those
atrocities to simply forget the past.

They say that the unity of Somalis is sacrosanct because Somalis have
the same language, culture and religion. This is harking back to Somali
irredentism of the 1960s, and, if pursued, it will lead to war in the
Horn. "The irony is that the hosts of the conference (the Republic of
Djibouti) are Somalis who share the same language, culture and religion
with all ethnic Somalis, but have, as is their right to
self-determination, chosen to remain as an independent state", said
Amina Malko, Chair of Somaliland Forum.

The communiqué is asking the international community to refrain from
supporting those who are opposing the conference. It is clear that this
conference is bent on recreating the former Somali State, which is an
undisputable formula for failure. The Somaliland people have already
decided their destiny and some of the people in Somalia are already
working on the ground away from the Conference in creating peace.

We wish them luck, but we implore the international community not to be
swayed by the utterances of this unrepresentative conference.

The Republic of Somaliland has already proven beyond doubt that it is a
peaceful, democratic and separate nation, as it has been for
three-quarters of the last century. "We urge the international community
not to be duped by the conference's blatant attempts to undermine the
peace and sovereignty of Somaliland. This will not lead to peace in the
region; in contrast, it could lead to anarchy, political upheaval and
war, which would be detrimental to the Horn at large", said Amina Malko,
Chair of the Somaliland Forum.


For further information, please contact

Ms. Amina Malko, Canada
Chairperson, Somaliland Forum

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Lady

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Somlailander, I have given you much credit before when I acknowledged you by my response!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now, I understand why people refer you to you seccession minded people as Dreamlanders.

I have full trust in the people who live in North West Somalia. I don't give two hoots what the Issaaq agenda is. Get that point in your small brain before posting pathetic propaganda.
Issaaq can not impose their wishful thinking on people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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TheGoodDreamer

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The Jigsaw is coming together for Somaliland. DJabouti government has recently Kick-out Somaliland's representative there, which shows that DJabouti has recognized Somaliland as an independent nation indirectly. Same goes to Egypt whose long strive to save the unity of Somalia is now fading-away with the newly developed relationship with Somaliland administration.

About 40% of the middle-eastern nations including Iran & Pakistan also recognized Somaliland as an independent sovereign nation indirectly.

So dreamers, just hang-on it will come true soon.

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Factfinder

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Jigsaw huh?? hey dreamer, the toy of choice is dominoes. Keeping dreaming

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Non-Somalilander

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hahahhaa The GoodDreamer, now you have carried your fantasy to new height let me know when you reach the summit of that illusionary Dream Mountain.

It's really pathetic to see you Dreamers reduced to these bogus statics of indirect so-called recognition, is that the best you can do?

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Samiir

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Macow

Your kind of people make laugh, cinicaly ofcourse on the over all Somali intlegence.
Are you really serious my friend thinking that I am dreaming to come back to Magadisho? You either must be kidding or stupid big way.

My dear before 1991 I thought Xamar was the capital city of all Somalis but perhaps I was wrong as those cary mad Moooryaan's came and murdered that dream of a great city which was built by all Somalis.

Those Moooryaans are still destroying Mogadisho mainly because they are propably thinking as you Macow that the city is indispensible and all Somalis consider it as their capital city, wrong!. I am not coming to Mogadisho any more,

I don't destroy things instead I build things, I have sacrificed my house in Xamar and I have already built a beautifull house in another place in Somalia where any Somali can live and work freely without facing those ghost looking Moooryaans in Mogadisho. As a matter of fact it was a blessing in disguise despite all that happened in Mogadisho the rest of the country got a chance.

The fact is that there is a big question mark on whether Xamar is ever again going to be the respected capital of Somalia ...don't we know why.

There are new flourishing towns around me, Laasaanood is the one I live in, Garoowe, Boosaaso, Galkacayo. Live is normal in all of them, there is a peace and huge progress. They are all Daarrood cities. So please dreamers and sleepers don't worry about Daarrood any more, just mind your businesses and do something to save the Somali name in the mud. One day, may be one day we realize what is good for Somali people in general.

Samiir

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TheGoodDreamer

Unrecorded Date
In a region where hatred and selfishness has the number priority, anything significant is a big step ahead.

In the case of Somaliland, I say, It achieved what you people are dreaming OFF. It is sad to say, Why can't you too achieve it? is that you can't do it without us??? Why do foreign broker a peace for you? Let me tell you "maangaabs", DJabouti is doing its own interest. See, Geelle went to the Arabs and got huge money, all for the name of Somalia. But, the Somalis will never get any, poor people. You "maangaabs" get together and bury the hatchet yourselves.

It is ironic to say, Somalis need some time to forget about the nightmares that happened. We, Somalilanders, are not in the mode for Somali unity at the moment, maybe after 40-50 years.

So please, if you are a peace lover, be proud of what Somaliland has achieved to safe innocent lives.


peace Out
take care of urselves, don't let others take care of u.

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realitycheck

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stop your lies!

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Unchanged

Monday, July 03, 2000 - 07:50 pm
If a new President is elected at the Arta Conference, guest the first thing he would do?

The first thing he would do is go to the nearest toilet and hang himself with his belt. HAH AHAAAh hAAHAaahA

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Somalilander

Wednesday, July 26, 2000 - 05:07 am
Xagee ka dhaceen dadkii qaylada badnaa ee odhan jiray ma jirto Somaliland? Ma waxa ay arkeen runtii? Mise calool xumo ayaa ay la soo noqon waayeen. Waa la yaab qofka ka taliyo xumaan isaga ayaa daala ka kataliya wanaag isagaa guulaysta.
Markaa ka taliyam wanaaga oo u hambalyeeya walaaladiin.

Somalilander.

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Ismaiil

Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 03:13 am
Marka ugu horeeysa somalia iyo mid ahaanteedu waa mid muqadas ah,

hadaynu nahay dadka dega awdal ama runtii qaybo badan oo ka mid ah north west of somalia waa pro united somalia,,

inta ku heesta riyadan so call somaliland waa dad dega in ka yar 300km2 waa inta u dhaxeysa burco hargeysa ilaa berbera, ,,


somalia Maanta dawlad kama jirto , laakiin inshalah
way iman ,, wax lagu murbaa ma jiraan, somalia forever, iyo calanka bluuga ah ee xidgta caddi ku taal

salaamu calykum

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Anonymous

Wednesday, August 23, 2000 - 05:28 pm
hey brothersand sisters!!!!!
u are arguing overan issue that hasbeen dismissed
over so many years ago.
so please let us forgiveeach otherand forget the
past. Is that too hard to do for our oncomming
children? Do u guys want our children to have the hatred we have towards each other today?
DID u guys realized that we share somuch incommon?
If NOT U'R ON THE DAREK SIDE AND U NEED HELP.
Why are the ••••• people complaining too much about the past? didn't they realize that M.Siyaad Barre is gone? And what ever he did can be forgeten? Did they Know that Gado and MuDUG Pple were hurt as much as they were hurt? Did they knoew that M.S.Barre didn't do much for his own ppl? Although everybody suspected that he gave them help with everything its because u Know they were his clan but the truth is that what he did was infavour of his own and most of the ppl in Gado and mudug did not aprove of what he did to the ppl of our blood ESPECIALY •••••. Although he tought all of us how to write somali(kacaankii)we from the ppl of Gado and Mudug did not think that hurting the ••••• ppl ( which because some of our mothers and step brothers and ansesters were from) was going to make secure with oureverydaylives.

Pleasebrother and sisters we should forgive each other andmove towards the future.
thanks.

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Asha

Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 09:43 pm
Abdullahi yusuf wuxu yidhi intanu ku darsan laheyn Xamar iyo •••••• waxanu ku darsaneynaa Somaliland. Caqli xumaa miyanu ogayn waxanu xamar uga tagney inay Mahjeerten ugu horeyaan. Dulbahante waanu is dhalay oo meelna kala tagi mayno,marexaana sida majeerteen uma af xumeen,
Umanna fal xumeyn. Lagu baray arag xumeyde maxaa igu kaa soo celin.

Jaaw Naarti ka cabe
SomaliLand ha jirto hana waarto, Ka naxow nafta waa

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SOMALILANDERS

Monday, September 04, 2000 - 10:32 am
ASALAAMU CALAYKUM????
SOMALIYANS ARE ARGUING SOMETHING THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH INDEPENDENS OR SEPERATE STATE
YOU KNOW WHAT ALL SOMALIYAN DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMALILAND THERE IS NO SOMALILAND BECOMIGN SEPERATE STATE ITS ONLY ISAAAQ THAT'S ALL NOTHING ELSE HAPPENING THERE.

THERE ARE ALMOST OVER 7 TRIBES IN SOMALILAND REGION THEY ARE

THIS ARE SOMALILAND PEOPLE THEY ARE
1)CIISE 2)GADABIIRSI 3)DHULBAHANTE 4)WARSANGALI 5)TIINLE 6)OGEESLABE 6)MIDGAHA 7)BOON IYO KUWA KALE OO FARA BADAN OO AA NAN GARANAYNIN 8)•••••,

I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND NOW IF ALL THIS PEOPLE GO THOGETHER THEY CAN BE SOMALILAND BUT NOT ONLY ONE OF THEM •••••,

IF ••••• IS GOING TO BE IN THE FUTERE GOVERMENT I'M SURE ALL OTHER TRIBES IN SOMALILAND REGION WILL HAVE THEY OWN GOVERMENT,


I HOPE SOMALIYEEEY YOU UNDERSTAND SOMALILAND FROM TODAY SPECIALY REEEER COONFUREEEED,

SEEE YO GUYS BY
ASALAAMU CALAYKUM???????

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ing_mo

Wednesday, September 06, 2000 - 04:10 am
war maxaad isku qaldeysaan? balad Isaac iyo dhul Somaliyeed. Isaaqu wuxuu deggen yahey dhowr magalo oo ka tirsan S/land. Waxa raba in uu goostana waa Isaac. umadda kalana ma oggola. Isaac wuxuu xor u yahaey in uu magaalooyinka uu dego ka taliyo. waayoo xor buu u yahey, laakiin Somaliland oo dhan ayaan xoog ku qabsanayaa ma dhici karto. Ha keeno refrendum magaalooyinka iyo degaannada oo dhan is xor ah ay iyaga naftooda isga soo qaadeen. markaas waa laga wada hadli karaa. haddii kale kaligii talis iyo is xoog wuu dhamaadey.
bye.

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BURCO-BOYZ

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 03:23 am
ALL THESE BULL •••• SOUTH PEOPLES DONT YOU KONW THAT SOMALILAND WAS A SEPARATE NATION LONG BEFORE THE ITALIANS WERE RULING YOU, ALL I SEE IS JUST A PUNCH OF PLAYA HATERS OUT HERE YO JEALOUS PEOLES MAN, WE HAVE SETTLED OUR DIFFRENCES IN THE PAST AND HAVE COME TOGEHTER AS SOMALILAND UNDER ONE FLAG MAN , HOW WERE YOU KILLING EACH OTHERS BEFORE THE WEST INTERVENED, BULL ••••
LONG LIVE SOMALILAND

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Sacad

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 10:21 pm
Waxaan filayaa in dhamaantiin aad og tihiin in S/Land ay ku soo darsantay Somalia July 1/60 iyadoo aanay ciddina ku khasbin inay ku darsanto,
markaa haddii ay goosteen inay ka go'aan maxaa
loola yaabayaa. Markii horena waxay doonayeen maslaxada soomaalida, iminkana markay arkeen dhibaatadii ka gaadhtay ku darsashadii Koonfurta ayey ka noqdeen.Haddii sida Jabuuti ay noqon lahayd dowlad gooni ah markay S/Land xornimada qaadatay June 26/60 doodani may jiri lahayn.

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Anonymous

Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 02:32 am
LONG LIVE SOMALILAND !

I LOVE U ALL FROM MY BOTTOM OF MY HEART AND I SAY BIG TIME THAT YOU ARE GREAT THINKERS AND WARRIORS BUT NO MORE WARS AND CRUELTY AND LETS FORGET THE PAST AND IGNORE THE ENEMIES THAT R STILL ALIVE !

WE HAVE COME THIS FAR FOR 10 YEARS WITH OUT HELP SO LETS CARRY ON AND REACH OUR DREAMS AND WALAALAYAAL AS LONG LONG AS WE HAVE RECOGNITION FROM THE GREAT ALLLAH THEN THE REST WILL FOLLOW I BELIEVE THIS 4 A REASON CUZ I HAVE BEEN COMPARING BOTH SOMALILANDERS AND THE REST OF SOMALIA SINCE 1990 TEN YEARS NOW .............AND GUESS WHO'S REBUILDING AND REGAINING AND RETHINKING AND REDEMOLISHING THE UGLY PAST ............WELL I GOTTA BE HONEST AND TELL THE TRUTH 'SOMALILAND'

SO VIVA FOREVER MY HEROS ....

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abdi

Friday, November 03, 2000 - 02:35 am
this is to issaq people keep up the good work because i know everyone will be going back to where they were born and i am not issaq but i love them very much and i will be marring an issaq girl so wish me lack

issaq lover

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Abdi

Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 04:01 pm
Sleepless in Hargeisa!!!

Please stop,Somali-? what? Somali-land is not a name that belongs to you guys but it belongs to the rest of the country, "Land" by definition is the solid ground of the Earth, exactly what you are walking on now, perhaps. Somali, well what definition do you need of the word "Somali", in simple word people like you and us.Then the word Somaliland, was as explained to you by TIMCACADE and the rest,started by the colonist and they had an agenda which is of course another debate all together. Why colonial mentality and thinking now? why the back to the future attitude now? Sometime in May, BBC radio did indeed broadcast a concern Program focusing on Hargeisa's biggest problems at that moment was Suicide, yes Suicide, and that they were expecting help from Britain to build a psychiatric hospital to curve or help the situation. Reason? Well, the answer was depression and mental health has become a major challenge for Somaliland. What will then be your priority, to depart or focus on major issues such as that and expect help from the rest of somali's.
Stop, idiotic, shallow and really childish rhetoric and concentrate on helping your people from economical and social deprivation.
Barre is gone, we all know that he inflicted damage to all somali's not Isaak's only, Someone needs to wake up from their nightmare's and sleepwalking, cause this is it. NO MORE BARRE, but Somalia and Somali people.
We don't want to sing it either, so please stop the self-indulgence, self-pitying and self fulfilling prophecy and work on helping your people.
I wish you Happy Ramadan and Eid .
Abdi..

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Mohhamed

Saturday, November 11, 2000 - 12:28 am
Hello Brothers and Sisters,

Look at what Ethiopia is doing to Somalia. Ethiopia has always been againest the UNITY of Somalia. The World community has ignorantly gave Ethiopia the responsibility to bring peace to Somalia. But all the way, since the beginning of Somalia's predicament, the Ethiopian government has been working, underground, to divide Somalia. Ethipia has been claiming that it is working to bring peace in Somalia for years now. But look at what they have brought and worked for (look at below quoted news, Ethiopia is trying to encourage the division of Somalia ). Ethiopia is at the moment working hard to distrupt what Djibouti has so far succeeded to bring. If it was not for Ethiopia, Somalia would have long been in peace and unity. Ethiopia is distablizing the whole region, Somalia, kenya, Eritrea etc. May Allah protect Somalia and give what Ethiopia deserves.Somaliland Seeks Economic Ties With Ethiopia



Panafrican News Agency

November 10, 2000

Addis Ababa, Ethiopia

A high-level delegation of break-away Somaliland led by President Ibrahim Igal, is in Addis Ababa to explore trade and economic ties with Ethiopia.

Somaliland's foreign minister, Mohammed Nur, told journalists in Addis Ababa Friday that the delegation came to Ethiopia to brief the authorities on what Somaliland could offer in terms of trade and economic ties.

He stated that Somaliland's Berbera port has "a large capacity, including oil storage facility" that Somaliland is ready to share with Ethiopia for its import-export trade, he added.

Nur reiterated that breakaway Somaliland was not interested in reviving the unity of Somalia.

"We have no contact with the recently elected government of Somalia following peace talks in Djibouti, and have no desire to do so in the future," he emphasised.

He stated that Somaliland was doing well on its own and has no desire to tamper with the safety and tranquillity prevailing in the country by getting involved in Somalia politics dominated by rival war-lords.

Nur said that the Somaliland delegation seeks to conclude "a Memorandum of Understanding" on trade and economic relations during the current visit.

The delegation, comprising eight ministers, including those of foreign affairs, trade and transport and communications, arrived in Addis Ababa Wednesday night.


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Anonymous

Friday, December 01, 2000 - 11:21 pm
salaam to y,ll
Waxaan aad ula yaabanahay dadka walaalhay ee reer-waqooyi sida waxaan dan ugu jirin iyakana dadka walaalhooda kusiidireysa,soomaalina sumcadxumo ugujirto,waalgoostaa ceeb ma aha ee maad isku tashataan?oo dabaalka cigaal iska qabataa meel walba ku tuugsanaya ha lay aqoonsado!

magaca madanka uu sheegayo iyo ficilkiisa ismaba laha somaliland&iyo soomaalibaan necbahay oon kago,ayaa waxaan filayaa inaad bedeshaan hadaad rabtaan aqoosi(isaqland,melisland,jewland)

suaal:goormaad noloshiina dabadhilifka cadowga soomaaliyeed deyneysaan?waxaan filayaa in warkharqaba kasooyeero w/galbeed,dadkoodana dhinaca ka raacaan.


(The british didnt want you,arab,american,african
becouse nobody have respect someone who insulted him self,thats what you doing repeatedly)

Iwonder when you people change??

peace y,ll somalis and unityforever.