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SomaliNet Forum (Archive): Somali Communities - Beelaha Qurbaha: Europe: Finland: Finland: Peace loving and intelligent Somalis
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maziwa

Monday, December 04, 2000 - 08:11 am
Monday, December 04, 2000 - 04:35 am
SayD wrote:
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< ooh i love it
< i really love it.
< elite or whatever your name is.
< since when are you finnish ppl supperior?
< Finland has never been a great country before the late 20th century.
< so keep it quiet about finland being the best.
< yes its Somalia worst decade and that •••• better be over soon.

Let me as a Finn
point out that I do not think the Finns are superiour.
But certainly the Finns and the Somalis are different.


< the Finish ppl are i guess about 5 million i'm not sure....you
< have no culture of warfare while we have 900 years of recorded war history.
< and their has been no war that somalia didn't win ever. Somalia has
< never been colonized.
< The European has misused the word colonization for the Horn of Africa.
<
< and you gotta see this we don't life for voilince we are a peace loving
< nation who has never seen peace.

A peace loving nation that has a history of 900 years of wars and civil
wars. Does not sound peace loving.


< and let this be a warning for all you racist ppl
< you can think whatever you want but it will be your foult when your eyez decieve you.
< are we less intellegent?...lol okey whatever if it will take that to make you feel less dumb.
<

In my opinion the Somali people are less intelligent. I am
not talking about individuals but the whole nation. See what
has happened to Somalia. That cannot be a product of intelligence
and love of peace.


< you gotta hear this.
< the day that the 10000 Somalis in Finland find themselves under
< attack is the same day that Finns world wide will understand the
< true meaning of the words Hate,wrath and revenge.
< we don't count our dead.
< but that day you wouldn't be able to count your dead.

How do you define the attack. I think the deportation of the
Somalis must be peaceful. No-one should be hurt. I think
that officials just fetch Somalis and fly them back to
Somalia. During the flight free meals should be served and
you can watch free movies and drink non-alcoholic
beverages. In Somalia you are in safe, because the Somalis
are peace loving people and intelligent.

Are you going to kill Finns when the deportation will
start. They just want to send you back to your
beloved Somalia where live the peace loving and intelligent
Somalis. As a peace loving and intelligent Somali,
you will do just fine over there.


< you are one brave kid behind the PC and i would say Finland
< needs more ppl like you, You lived your live in peace but if
< you keep on like this you'll see terror at your door.
<
<

A peace loving Somali threathens Finns with terror. Are you
sure you are peace loving?


< Not all Finns hate Somalis so try not use their anme
< and show your true face.
<
< so spread Love not War.

I hate no Somalis. I just would like to live in
Finnish Finland. Maybe you would like to live
in Somalian Somalia.

So spread the word, that Somalis should
live in peace in Somalia, not in war. It must
be easy to Somalis, after all they are
peace loving and intelligent. Or do you
think otherwise?

Peace to you!

maziwa

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SayD

Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 01:40 am
ooh you wanna play that intellectual racist game?

i love games so lets play.

its like they say truth is in the eye of the beholder.
you think you are right and i'm sure that i am.
i don't like mutch arguing when i know that i can't convince you that you are programmed this way.

i don't like explaining my self, cause me explaining my self means that you are too dumb to understand what i'm saying and that makes me a fool for talking to an person that doesn't understand what i'm saying.

with AttACK i mean. if the Finnish ppl break they laws of their country and The Human Rights of Somalis living in FInland.

That is an attack. act of voilence is attack.

So try to be smarter then you are now.
read a book or two.... read Mein Kampf or something...lol

a peace loving nation do i have to explain that to you too?
we never had the chance of living in peace. can you understand that?
we have many enemies.

Finland is a great country for you
So is Somalia for me so be greatfull to the allmighty that you have what you have and don't complain about a handfull of refugees who are temprory guests.

behave like an Human being and not like the PinK ape that you are.

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ABDUL

Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 09:25 am
pink ape lol, sayid thanx for joining bro. you know I am kinda fighting for KMG now, cant afford to lose my time as you said with the PINK APES. lol lol hahahaha shitiit that the shitt. You know not living in Finland has its disadvantages, I mean not knowing words like PINK APE, NEVER HEARD OF IT BUT I INTEND TO USE IT OFTEN. one more question, why do white people call themselves whites, all the white people I saw in my days are pink in color, are they color blind? masiwa answer me friend, you seem inteligent. why do I think your name sounds african? are you perhaps kenyan. I dont appreciate fighting somebody who pretends someone he is not. explain yourself, are you ashamed to be kenyan, or you afraid of me?

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FATIHA

Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 09:32 am
Mitäs ne paska-neekerit eli ali-ihmiset taas sönköttää?

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maziwa

Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 10:20 am
To Abdul:

Don't you like Kenyans?

So white people are pink or very light brown. Actually most black people are not black but often very dark brown. However I think there are also negroes who are very black, blueish black.

Maziwa is a nick name I selected to use here. It is actually Suahili language and means "milk".


To SayD:
< Finland is a great country for you
< So is Somalia for me so be greatfull to the
< allmighty that you have what you have and don't
< complain about a handfull of refugees who are
< temprory guests.

Finally there is a Somali who thinks Somalia is great country for him. I aggree also the idea that Somalis in Finland are temporary guests.

maziwa

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ABDUL

Tuesday, December 05, 2000 - 11:55 pm
MASIWA LETS BE SERIOUS SHALL WE, YOU ARE HARBORING OUR PEOPLE, EVEN THOUGH NOBODY FORCED YOU, THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED TREATIES BETWEEN NATIONS OF THE WORLD, THAT IS TO PROVIDE SHELTER TO REFUGEES, GIVING THEM CITIZENSHIP STATUS IS DIFFERENT MATTER, BUT TO HARBOR SOMALIS AS A REFUGEE WHICH IS WHAT THEY CLAIMED WHEN THEY CAME IN YOUR COUNTRY IS YOUR COUNTRIES RESPONSIBILTY JUST LIKE WE HAVE DONE LONG AGO WHEN WE HAD SOMETHING TO GIVE. NOW YOU MAY NOT KNOW BUT YOUR COUNTRY SIGNED THAT TREATY IN 1945 WITHOUT ANYBODY FORCING THEM TO DO SO. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEAN, IT MEANS REFUGEE DONT HAVE TO WORK FOR A GOOD REASON, BUT I AM SURE SOMALIS IN FINLAND DO WORK. NOW A QUESTION ARISES ABOUT THIS TREATY AND YOUR ATTITUTE TOWARD SOMALIS OR LET ME SAY REFUGEES IN YOUR COUNTRY. ARE YOU AGAINST THAT TREATY OR YOU NEED TO BLAME ANYBODY TO WHATEVER YOUR COUNTRIES MISFORTUNES ARE. IAM THINKING MAYBE YOUR DISAPROVAL OF YOUR PRIME MINISTER(IN THINK YOU MENTIONED LADY PRIME MINISTER EARLIER) AND HER SUPPORT OF GAY AND LESBIANS, THE PRIME MINISTER WHO ALSO HAPPENS TO APPROVE SOMALIS STATUS IN FINLAND, DOES THAT TURN ON ANY LIGHT ON YOUR HEAD. THERE IS NOTHING I LIKE BETTER TO HAVE SOMALIS BACK IN SOMALIA, YOU KNOW THE MORE PEOPLE A NATION HAS THE MORE SUCCESSFULL A NATIONS IS. BUT TRUTH IS SOME DONT WANT TO BE IN SOMALIA FOR A REASON OF THEIR OWN. WHO AM I TO QUESTION OF SOMEBODIE'S CHOICE OF RESIDENCE HAH.

LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT ME, I AM OF COURSE A SOMALI AND PROUD ONE LIKE ANY SOMALI. BUT THAT IS NOT ALL IAM, I HAVE IDEOLOGY AND ONE OF THEM IS FOR ALL PEOPLE TO LIVE TOGETHER IN HARMONY, THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD ARE MOVING FROM ISOLATION TO MULTICULTURALISM, SOMALIA WILL NOT BE FOR SOMALIS ONLY AND SO WILL FINLAND. EVEN BEFORE WE GOT IN THE MESS WE BEEN IN LAST TEN YEARS WE HAD PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT ORIGINS IN SOMALIA WHO LIVED IN HARMONY WITH SOMALIS, WE ARE NOT SAVAGES THE WESTERN MEDIA SAYS WE ARE.

MY SUGGESTION TO YOU IS MASIWA, FINLAND WILL HAVE NON FINS AND IAM THINKING SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THOSE WILL BE SOMALIS, FAR LESS THAN WHAT YOU HAVE, THE REASON THAT IS SOMALIS HAVE THIS CULTURE OF MOVING TO FAR AWAY PLACES BUT WHO ULTIMATELY COME BACK TO THE BASE CAMP SOMALIA, SO NO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT SOMALIS BUT BE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH OTHERS. SOMALIS ARE TEMP CAMPERS, AND THEY WILL ALL TELL YOU THAT EVEN WITHOUT YOU ASKING THEM, THEIR LOVE FOR SOMALIA STARTS THE DAY THEY WERE BORN WHEN PART OF THEM IS RITUALY BURIED IN SOMALIA (THE MATERNAL CORD).

YOU ALSO ASKED ME TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE SLAVERY IN SUDAN. MY ANSWER TO THAT IS HOW TRUTHFULL ARE YOUR SOURCES, YES THEY ARE BEING MISTREATED BECAUSE THERE IS A WAR GOING BETWEEN THE SOUTHERN SUDAN RESISTANCE AND THE GOVERNMENT IN KARTOUM, BUT COMMON TO SELL PEOPLE IN THIS AGE AND TIME, HOW CAN YOU EVEN THING SOMEBODY WILL DO SUCH A HORRIBLE THING TO A HUMAN BEING, YOU ARE A MODERN MAN WITH SOME EDUCATION HOW HARD IS IT FOR YOU TO FIND OUT THE TRUTH WITHOUT REALLY BEING BAISED. BECAUSE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION BUT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH WHO WE ARE AS A HUMAN BEINGS. IAM REALLY HOPING THIS TO BE FALSE ACUSATION BUT IF YOUR SOURCES ARE TELLING THE TRUTH I WOULD BE THE FIRST TO JOIN YOU AND YOUR SOURCES FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT WHICH IS NO ONE CAN SELL ANOTHER HUMAN BEING SPECIALLY NOT A BLACK MAN BUBA. SO LETS BOTH DO OUR HOMEWORK TO FIND OUT THE TRUTH.

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maziwa

Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 02:28 am
Abdul,

Thank you very much for taking the
trouble of composing your reply.
I shall return to it later. Just
checked the video I recorded and
alas there is negro slavery
in Sudan.

Maziwa

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Somali 4EVER

Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 03:14 pm
Slavery in Sudan????Nothing buut propaganda.
Abdul
I can't believe you are trying so hard to reason with IGNORANCE!!!!!!It doesn't work my brother.This persons mind is polluted beyond repair trying to even explain something ain't gonna work. Let the sucker just make NOISE that's what he/she is good at.

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maziwa

Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 03:53 pm
Somali 4ever,

For more information about slavery in Sudan,
please, try www.google.com search. Use words
"sudan" and "slavery".

I indeed saw a tv documentary program
about slavery in Sudan. Negroes where
captured to the north and they were
bought free for 50 USD.

What do you think about the slavery in
Mali. This year in Finnish TV was shown
a program of American negro Henry Louis Gates.
He was travelling in Mali and in the program
he saw a man who was slave. He did not
protest it as the slave owners were black.
Try also google search.

maziwa