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     | Unrecorded Date Noble Nomads: Somali Community Organizations in Columbus have made historic step for bringing together all the common background and the common values of Somali communities in Columbus under one organisation. Somalis in Ohio are united and stronger than ever unlike Somali Communities in Minneapolis, Atlanta and Canada. In addition what makes so special this Somali Community Association in Columbus and Ohio in general is recognising and acknowledging cultural diversity within Somali people. Hopefully this will be right step for all Somali communities around the world.
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| | Unrecorded Date I Solute you guys and well done..
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| | Unrecorded Date Who told you Somalis in Atlanta are not united my friend? Maalintii ciiddi haddi aad arki lahyd, as their children mingled in festivities in their new masjid you wouldn't say so.. Ninba tuu calmadaa waa u CambroLuul:-)
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| | Unrecorded Date DEAR ABDIAZIZ I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW YOU RUN YOUR SOMALI COMMUNITY IN WHERE YOU ARE AT? AND THAT IF YOU CAN SEND ME SOME INFORMATION ON HOW /WHY AND THE BENEFIT YOU GANED FRM IT?
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| | Unrecorded Date Muxammed: The children should mingle in festivities and this occasion of Eid is very important for Somalis to mark their identity as muslims. As man who has been living in America for quite years, I conclude that Somalis in Atlanta are not united, not only Atlanta but other States except Columbus Ohio that I've noted on early statements. As matter of fact Somalis in Atlanta do have different organisations which currently represent various Somalis, and unity under one organisation is out of picture at this moment. Having said that there are various organisation in Atlanta such as Bravaneze community, Somali Community, Somaliland community and the list goes on. Therefore don't be confuse that gathering such as Eid occasion or Somali music show would make people as united as you may think.
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| | Unrecorded Date Dear fal 23, Since the civil war in Somalia, there has been a large number of Somalis coming to this state of Ohio through the sponsorship programs or moving from another states. Most of these people got help from Somali Community Association in Ohio regardless their background and clans. While I can't breifly sum up in one comment the accomplishment of Somali Community Association in Ohio, it would have been easier to visit Columbus and see how Somalis are united and organised. If you can't visit then I will be more happy to provide information that you looking for through email. Regards, Abdi.
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| | Unrecorded Date Abdiaziz: Please how can I get the number to AlJizira Car dealers???? thanks Hayat
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| | Unrecorded Date Hayat: Though I don't have the number of Jasiira Car Dealer, it would be easy for you to get the number if you happen to cross by Cleveland ave. Abdiaziz.
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| | Unrecorded Date Bonjour la somalia I just past by and I just want to say hi and peace and love my sister and brother take care your self and those around you .
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| | Unrecorded Date TO,Abdiaziz aad ayaan ugu farax sanahay community somalida ah oo isku duuban,waa adag tahay silooga helo meel kale. Abdi isoo sheeg hadii aad taqaanid MUSLIM SCHOOL oo ku yaala Columbus. Waxaan daganahay Seallte,WA. waana kawaayey school muslim ah. peace.
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| | Unrecorded Date DEAR SACDIYO. This is number you are interesting Sunrise Academy Muslim School 5656 Scioto-Darby road. Hilliard,OH {614}527-0465. Good luck.
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| | Unrecorded Date Anonymous Aad baad ugu mahadsan tahay sidaad ugu fududay say arimahan raadinayey ilaahayna ajer hakaa siiya.
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| | Unrecorded Date Anonymous Aad baad ugu mahedsan tahay sidaad ugi soo fududaysay arimahan raadinayey.
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| | Unrecorded Date I am very glad to see a group of Somali people who can talk for a while and not insulte each other or talk about the disease(Qabiil) Thank you guys and I realy liked this page.
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| | Unrecorded Date Hayat, Did you tried to search the yellow pages on the net. or may be calling 411 might help, if you do not leave in columbus area.
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| | Unrecorded Date dear all somalis! i am a fella who moved to columbus a two weeks ago and i am being welcomed so good specially! my buddies. i never seen a somalian community whose strong than this columbus community, they all friendly and respect! i lived a toronto,maryland and some other states i would never compare to this community.... if you are a leader of somalian community in columbus,Ohio! keep the work up and do your job fairly not based on "tribe" qabiil....or even if you involved any helping organization as well, i would also say it to you "keep the work effort up" peace! abdihakim "kiimow"
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| | Unrecorded Date waxaan rabaa inaan halkaan kaga darsado fikradayda, marka ugu horreysa waan idin salaamay akhyaarta halkaan ku wada hadlaysa, waxaan halkaan ka slaamay walaalaha boggan u furay walaalohood si ay ugu hufmaan. Kan bilaabay dooddan iyo kan ugu dambeeyeyba waxaan idin leeyahay wanaag ayaad isla waddaane isla fahma, oo yuusan hadalku idiinka badan dood idiin horseedda irrid kale. waxaan ahay walaalkiin oo idinkala hadlaya dalka iswiidhan , waxaanan idin leeyahay bogga ha isku koobina intiinna North Amerika ku nool. hana illaawina xikmaddii ahayd "dhagax meel dhow ayuu ku dhacaa hadalna meel dheer" taasoon ka wado boggan iskamalaha reer COLUMBUS OHIO ee walaalayaal waannu idinla akhrisanaynaa ee hadal kiisa wanaagsan ha ka muuqdo bogga , haddii kale wuxuu noqonayaa mid laga cararo. waxaan idiin rajaynayaa dadaal wacan iyo is faham
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| | Unrecorded Date waan idin salaamay dhamaantiinba,qaasatan cabdiziis walaal arinfiican ayaad ku bilowday doodan waxaan filayaa mid guubaabo mudan in ahayd lakiin somali horaa looga waayay israac waxaan ilaah ka baryayaa rajadaadi ahayd tani talaabo wanaagsan oo tusaale leh in ay noonoqoto in ay suurto gasho. aniga oo ah walaalkiin holland joogo waxaan mahad gaar ah u celinayaa walaalkay cabdulqadir oo idin xusuusiyay talo wanaagsan. mida kale walaale waxaa xusuus mudan in ay jiraan jaaliyado badan oo soomaaliyeed oo sharf iyo cise leh iskuna tix galiyo walaal nimadooda, tusaale ahaan magaalada delft ee dalka holland waxaa kajiro urur layiraahdo midnimo xilkasnimo iyo waayo aragnimo la,isku biirshay ayay dangard ku noqdeen amaana ku muteysteen,amaan sidee ah waa su,aal aad isweydiin kartid? wasiirki hore ee waxbarashad holland ayaa u dhashay magaalad delft maalin malmaha kamid ah ayaa waxaa nasoo booqday madaxa qoxootiga delft asagoo doonayo in uu xal u helo su,aal lasoo waydiyay wasiirka iyo fariin uu kawado. waxaa uu yiri asagoo ku hadlayo afki wasiirka wxaa amaan mudan cidkasto oo kasbata sida ay aniga ila tahay delft iyo anigaba waadna amaanteen waayo wasiirka arimaha gudaha noorway ayaa xaladiina isoo waydiiyay asaga oo leh waxaan rabaa xalka ay heleen in aan ogaado. mafilayo in ay jirto sabab aan u faano sida walaalkay cabdiziis waxaan inoo rajeynayaa tilaabo wanaagsan in ay noonoqdaan war bixinadan. isu xog waran wanagsan.
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| | Unrecorded Date to mr abdiaziz! i am so glad that you helped us in any question that people asked you! my question is do we have a plan that we gonna build our own masjid! because i went to visit to toledo ohio, they have a real-big beautiful masjid and they want to expand more.. that masjid owned by a member of yemani-community who is really help themself to built that mosques and cost them a lot of money... so! what is the plan of somalian community who live here? i will really appreciate if you respond to me this issue as soon as you can! my name is abdihakim! may god bless you for your effort!
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| | Unrecorded Date hellow!my dear brothers here is again Mr.abdulqafar. My first question is toward all somali brothers who are discussing in this page and the question is : Haven`t you any capacity to use in our depate by our own languege as me and brother farasle did instead of english? Waxaan rabaa inaan halkaan in yar xusuusiyo walaakay cabdulcaziz iyo inta la fikriga ahba inay wanaagsan tahay in qofkii ka shaqeeya midayn la ayido laguna kaalmeeyo wixii ka dhiman si uu horukac miro dhala u gaaro. Tan kale waxaa wanaagsan inaan badinno xiriirka jaaliyadaha soomaaliyeed ee ku firirsan kownkan si aan u kala qaadanno garashada kala duwan ee koox walbaaba hayso ka dibna ay uga soo baxdo mid la isugu yimaado , si aan bal mustaqbalka u tiigsanno is faham waara iyo isjeclaan walaalnimo haddaad hadalkayga khalad kala kulantaan fadlan cidna doonimaayo inaan waxyeelo. cabdulqafaar
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| | Unrecorded Date Re: Abdi (The Columbus Comm Advocator) I am very glad to hear ur urgument and hope it is as much true as u r telling us. I have been to Columbus for a couple of times and of course i did not have the time of day to assess how united our community in ur city were. Both times I was simply a passer by. I did not meet many people and had not frankly raised the issue of the community with anyone. For one time i was there two days and the other 5hrs just to eat one of those fine Somali restuarants. But I am curious, the las time i was in Columbus there was a big rift between the Somalis and an owner of Tim Hortan's Coffee Shop who tried to ban the Somalis from his shop. there were police cruises around and we were turned away. it never seem'd cool to me and i could not figure out why or what was happening in there. Had u been called upon that? did u have what was the cause of that? Are the Somalis discreminated? I have heard that the Somalis in MN suffer from police harrsament, wonder how it is with u in OH? since u have large number of our community in that state...r u also subjected to that sort of police harrasment? I know i am asking too many qs repetetively but let me tell u that I am glad just hear u say that u have one united Somali Org. Keep up the good will and May Allah bless u all....by the way I live in Phoenix, Az....also one united community..
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| | Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 04:40 pm i have just moved from toronto and to tell u the truth, i don't like it!people in ohio are not very educated and civilised enough! they don't go to schools or colleges. most of them don't have any skills. one major thing they all know is to gather around that donut place is cleveland street and talk about Gedo and Boosaaso! that is where most f them came from. i have seen some nice people who are trying hard and working double shifts and at the sametime going to schools. maybe, some of them will make but i am very much worried about the future of their kids. the kids have no educated mentors at home. most of the somali parents don't even know how to do basic arithmetic. this is very strange compared to somali parents in toronto. the reason could be that somalis in canada were city dwellers and all most all somalis in columbus are from the rural areas in conclusion, the so called somali community needs to address this issue.
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| | Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 04:13 am I lived in columbus from 96 to 99. It grea place to live in . The somalis in Columbus get a lots of love to each other. Laakin waxa kali ah oo haleeyay waa dhalin yarada balwada culus leh. I'm glade heard all somalis are united as one. Ohio is great state to live in I live in cincinnate now, which i think it's great place to live in
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| | Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 04:19 am I lived in columbus from 96 to 99. It grea place to live in . The somalis in Columbus get a lots of love to each other. Laakin waxa kali ah oo haleeyay waa dhalin yarada balwada culus leh. I'm glade heard all somalis are united as one. Ohio is great state to live in I live in cincinnate now, which i think it's great place to live in
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| | Wednesday, August 30, 2000 - 05:37 am Khalid, are you up in here?? If not Any of you all know a bro. named Khalid Khatal??
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| | Monday, September 04, 2000 - 12:03 pm waxaan.rabaa inaan helo.dad reer kismaayo. ah yaa ii sheegi karo. tirada daka reerkismaayo oo dagan ohio magaceegu waa gurey x reer kismaayo
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| | Thursday, September 07, 2000 - 09:54 pm Gurey, maba u maleynayo inay jirta wax reer Kismaayo badan oo ku nool, laakiin reer Belet-weyne ayaa aad iyo aad ugu badan magaaladan Columbus Ohio.
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| | Friday, September 08, 2000 - 02:02 pm to ahmed thanks walaal
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| | Sunday, October 01, 2000 - 05:40 am hallo dear ahmed, Waxaad gurey u sheegtey in magaalada Columbus eey u badan yihiin reer b/weyne marka ninyahoow aniga naftirkeyga waxaan ahay reer b/weyne "ex". Waxaanan baafinayaa nin la yiraah C/qaadir xasan c/aahi (AFANTURE),marka ninyahow Ahmadoow ninkaas ayaan ku maqley Ohio,marka sxb ii soo sheeg hadaad heyso telefon ama e-mail haduu leyahay iyo yaa kale oo ex-reer B/weyne ka dagan magaalada Col.Ohio. Aniga waxaan ahay ex-reer b/weyne gaar ahaan reer buundo-weyne kana dagaan fiiltare. E-mailkeyga waa: fiiltare@yahoo.com
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| | Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 06:20 pm hello ohio. i wanna know if u guys know mubashir sheikh, who moved to columbus or clavland may be around september last yr , so if u know him pls contact me at this e mail address. moyuab@hotmail.com
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| | Tuesday, November 07, 2000 - 04:48 pm TO DHAMAAN GABDHAHA SOOMAALIYEED WAXAAN RABAA INAAN SUAAL WEYDIIYO GABDHAHA SOOMAALIYEED EE REER COLUMBUS OHIO. WAXAAN JOOGA MAGAALADAN MUDO YAR WAXAANAN KA IMI YURUB, WAXAAN ILA HADA KA QAYB GALAY 3XAFLADOOD OO KA DHACAY MAGAALADA. WAXAAN KU ARKAY OO AAD IILA YAABISAY WAXAN AAN KU ARKIIN MEELIHI AAN KA IMI AMABA CANADA. WAXA WEEYE GABDHO DIRAC XIRAN OO XAFLADA KU YIMI, DIRAC MA LABIS CUSUB OO IGA DANBEEYA MISE WAA STAYLKA REER COLUMBUS. GABDHO KACA OO IS QURXIYA MEESHA WAXBA KUMA HAYSAANE. WAA ABOOWIHIIN HANAD
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| | Monday, November 20, 2000 - 07:08 pm to hanad hanad aboowe waan fahmay ujeedada maaha mid wax laga qaban karo waa mid u baahan in qof kaste loodaaydookhiisa. marka haku daalin anaa ku daale waa abaayada miski
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| | Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 07:39 am Salaam reer Columbus, waxaan fiirinayey boggaan oo mar hore iigu danbeeysay. Maxaase ku soo kordhay Columbus?
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| | Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 03:01 pm waad salaaman tihiin dhamaan reer columbus and I get great respect for U.I have lived in columbus almost three years and it's been great place eversince we have got big rush from all over the place anyways horaa loo yiri meesheey somaali ku badato way quruntaa.let's keep columbus united and help each other,I still live in columbus,but if this immigrition continius I have to leave coze I don't wanna see strange things happen eventhough they already begun loading and robbing.peace yo all.
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| | Saturday, December 09, 2000 - 08:49 pm waxaaan halkaan ku soo jeedinaa columbo ohio waxaa ku soo horreyay dadka layiraahdo hawiye marka waxaan u sheegaa dadka daarood oo hada ka yimid utanga ineey jooji yaan midab kala sooca iyo qawiil naceebka ay wadaan anaga manecebni taas waa uga waano waxaan ahay wiilasha columbos waxaana ka shaqeeyaa postada peac lovo all yoow
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| | Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 04:55 pm TO:Afrax Jamal(jinefer) waad lagu salamay hadaad tahay wiilka aan mooday. mida kale USA waa dal imigarante ah oo qofba maryimid marka hadii adiga waqtiga ku saamaxay in aad timada goor hore hakucayn dadka otaanga waa meel dadku waqtigooda ku sooqateen umana arko wax dhib ah sababtoo ah soomali sanadkaan meel walba aya u qaxday.Qabiilna waa kan dalkii naga soo dudumiyay oo faaiido qofna uma leh. by:ladan
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| | Wednesday, December 13, 2000 - 12:18 pm marka hore waad salaaman tihiin aqyaarta reer columbus,walaal afrax jamaal mahaboona sidaad u waramaydo,dhalinyarada reer ohio waa hal marka waxaa laga yaabaa inaad gadaal ka timid columbus,I my self claim as hawiye people but I disagree what U saying,cudurka qabiilka waa midka na indha tiray oo soo dumiyey mininkeenii soomaaliye,waxaana ahay dhalinyarada ka shaqaysa columbus airport peace all wasalaamu calaykum.
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| | Saturday, December 16, 2000 - 11:23 pm So what yall telling us is Maryooley is united that ever.... huh? Do yall have facts to support ya phony arguments..huh? MAY CARIGII ISKU JECLAADAAN, OO DUUBNI MUUJIYAAN, MISE NIMANYAHOW WAXAAD WEYDEEN WAXAAD KA SHEEKEYSAAN. Its ironic to read such phony posts, and If I was one of Somalinet adm...mar horaan ka hortegi lahaa faataadhugtiina. Ac/Dc, Newnan, GA
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| | Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 03:25 pm TO HANAD WALAAL WAAD SALAAMANTAHAY MARKA UGU HOREYSA MIDA KALE ANIGA OO HALKAN COLUMBUS DEGANAA 5 BILOOD AYAAN AAD UGU ULA YAABAY MARKAAN ARKAY IN AY GABDHAHA SOMALIYEED AROOS WALBA OO JIRA INAY DIRAC MA AHEE WAX KALE AQOONIN OO LEBIS AH ANIGOO DEGANAA MAGAALADA TORONTO 5 SANO AYAAN HADA DHIB IGU AH SIDAAN COLUMBUS DHAQANKEEDII ULA QABSAN LAHAA MARKA WAXAAN KU GO'AAN INAAN DANAHEYGA KALE KA RAACDO HADII KALE STYLE KII TORONTO KALA IMAADAY AYEEY IGA DHUMINAAYAAN.......
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| | Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 04:30 pm to: sucdiya walaal waa lagu salaamay .waxaanse dabasocdaa jawaabtii aad hanad ku taageertay ee aheed gabdaha reer Columbus oo kulabista aroos yada duruuca ,maxaad beenta usheegaysaa Toronta soo tii maaha naagaha dayta nafta looge keeni jiray duruuc inkastaa ayjireen gabdo ku taga canbuura ay naasahooda ,dabarkooda&lugahooa gadaal laga arko xafladaha lagu qabto hoteelada kuwa kalana oocaadigana lagu tago diraca aad kacabanaysaan. Hadal iyo damaan hadaad kufaanayso waan labisan lahaa darkii qaawanaa waxba haku marmarsiyoon dadka ee labiso,gabdahaan reer Columbus waxaad sheegaysiin maba lasocdaan badabnkood.Waxaanse layaabay miyaaden horay ugu soo labisan Somaliya mise labiska ayaa idiinkuga horeysaa in USA. BY:ladan.
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| | Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 06:32 pm to sucdiyo walaashis waxaan ka hadlaayey hada ila garatay. bal ka waran hadan ku iraahdo weli ma arkin gabdho u eg gabdhihi aan aqaaney. ii waran adigu maxa haysa, waa in aynu dadaal u gaalna sidii aynu u caawinlahayn gabdhaha reer columbus. war ha laga helo
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 04:13 am What did the so called Somali Community do about the recent robberies or should I call it recent terrorism against the Somali owned businesses? What is the real reason for having a Community based organization?
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| | Monday, December 25, 2000 - 11:06 pm Reer Columbus, aad ayaad u fiican tihiin Community aad samaysteen, inkastoo meeshan aan deggan ahay oo ah Detroit, ayna joogin somali badan haddan dadka magaaaldan jooga aad iyo aad ayey ukale jeedan. Ilama ahi in ay Community samsyan karan, mar ka hore waanu yarnahay tan labdaadna laysma jecla. Maxaa talo ah. DADKAN TORONTO (CANADA) waxaan odhan lahaa idinku ilbaxnimo meel ku gaaro, naagahina isqawiyey baad asturan kariwydiin qaarkoodna waxay noqdeen LESBIAN, markay windsor soo gaadhaan ayey WJLB FM raadiyaha ku hagaajiyaan, cali duulna markay Tunnel ka soo talaaban bay isku shubaan "LEGEND" night club. Ilaahay aynu ugu mahadnaqnaa in aynoo dhaafan dhinaca iyo Minneapolis, Minnesota ama Virgina ama Tennessee iwm.
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| | Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 02:20 pm Hello Abdiaziz Abdi, please send me an e-mail, I have a lot of things to discuss with you. Eid Mubaarak. People in Columbus are sending e-mails to author of this article because Mr. Omar Hassan is not a president of Somali Community nor he has authority, and education to represent the Somali Community. Please send your emails of supporting the article also telling author of below article that Mr. Hassan Omar represents his own clan of Marehan not the whole Somali Community. Somalis turn to agency in struggle against bias Tuesday, December 26, 2000 George Myers Jr. Dispatch Staff Reporter The grip of discrimination may be in something as supple as a handshake, which can be a surprisingly complicated gesture. Ask any Somali, or a stranger who's tried to shake a Somali's hand. "In our religion, a man shouldn't take the hand of a woman, or the woman the hand of another man,'' said Maryan Warsame, who runs the Somali Women's Center on Cleveland Avenue. "A woman shouldn't touch any man's hand, unless he's her husband, brother or father.'' Ignorance of religious or ethnic customs can lead some people to feel uneasy around immigrants, Warsame said. "And something simple like that can make people discriminate against us. "I don't blame them. I blame the cultural barriers.'' Warsame is one of thousands of newcomers to Columbus' cultural landscape, which immigrants continue to make ever- more diverse. Nowhere is the demographic shift more seismic than with Somalis, whose numbers have soared to 14,000 citywide, from about 40 in 1996. About 40,000 Somalis live in the United States, half of them in Minneapolis. Columbus has the nation's next- largest Somali population. "Columbus is undergoing enormous growth,'' said James L. Stowe, executive director of the city's Community Relations Commission. "The compatibility issue can create a great deal of tension.'' Somali residents have been traveling a road worn down by ethnic groups that came before them: They see their path pockmarked by fear, ignorance, unfair treatment and a lack of respect for their customs. "We feel targeted,'' said Hassan Omar, president of the Somali Association of Ohio, which also is on Cleveland Avenue. "Our businesses have been robbed and burglarized, even the Somali center. "Our people work hard. I don't understand why people discriminate against us.'' An immigrant's religion, clothing and newness to the English language sometimes can be innocent accomplices in discrimination. "It's going to get more complicated for them'' and other Columbus residents before it gets easier, Stowe said. "By 2010, 85 percent of all people entering the work force at any level will be minorities.'' Once principally a German town, Columbus continues to gain color: Some 45,000 Latinos live in the city, as well as 25,000 Asians. Its 1,200 Mauritanians compose a population second in size only to the one in New York. The 2,000 students who attend the English-as-a-second-language program in the Columbus Public Schools speak more than 60 languages and dialects. About 500,000 Ohioans do not speak English. Immigrants and refugees are being lured to the state capital by friends, family, jobs, affordable housing and a comparatively steady economic base. "The issue for tomorrow is this: How do we fairly address all the needs of a competitive, diverse community?'' Stowe said. "Is each of us in Columbus ready to share information, resources and even privilege?'' The commission's offices in City Hall are ground zero for reporting complaints of discrimination originating within city limits. On any given day, it is looking into 40 charges of bias based on age, gender, race, sexual preference, religion or ethnicity. Complaints loom as large statewide. The Ohio Civil Rights Commission examines 5,500 reports of discrimination a year. Charges of racial bias are up this fiscal year, to 3,729 statewide, from 2,300 in 1998-99. In Columbus, discrimination against Somalis has become "a very big issue,'' Stowe said. Many dress, speak and practice their faith in ways that some people find strange, threatening or unbusinesslike. For example, Muslims must pray for a few minutes five times a day, even if the time conflicts with work. Omar said three Columbus companies have fired Somalis over prayer practices this year. He would not name them for fear of hurting efforts to resolve the cases, which might otherwise go to court. "Culturally, we don't complain. We don't like to,'' he said. "We come from another country -- more of us every night. Columbus, employers and all Ohio have been very helpful for us and have welcomed us. We just wanted to be treated fair.'' Stowe said Columbus residents and employers have a long way to go in accepting differences, particularly race. "You have to acknowledge the color chasm,'' he said. "Every sector in the community has a meaningful opportunity to enhance people's relations here.'' In 1990, the City Council empowered the Community Relations Commission to do just that. As the city's designated troubleshooter on discrimination complaints, the commission suggests ways to prevent biased practices within the workplace and between neighbors. It also enforces the city's civil-rights code, which outlaws discrimination in employment, housing or public accommodation because of race, religion, national origin, ancestry, sex or sexual orientation. As much as 60 percent of its cases are race-based, and about 25 percent relate to sexual orientation, said Kenneth L. Saunders, an investigative lawyer for the commission. Many complaints turn out to be misunderstandings that can be resolved with a few phone calls, he said. "Even if someone's complaint doesn't necessarily fit our mission, we try and help. What we try to do is solve problems.'' That's what the commission did in 1998 when South Side residents called to inquire about the planned growth and increasing truck traffic of Techneglas on E. Jenkins Avenue. Techneglas spokeswoman Tracy Patton recalled that the commission "found the parties that needed to get together and said, 'Here's who you need to talk to about this.' '' When the commission can't resolve a conflict or finds a law broken, it hands the case over to the city attorney's offices for prosecution. That has happened just once. In January 1991, Colleen Cheadle, a former manager of a South Side United Dairy Farmers store, became the first person in Columbus to be convicted under a city law that prohibits racial discrimination. Cheadle was fined $100, put on probation for two years and ordered to complete eight weeks of sensitivity training. A six-month jail term, the maximum for the first-degree misdemeanor, was suspended. But convicting people is not the commission's goal, Stowe stressed. "Our job is to reduce discrimination, not process charges. Taking someone to court is the last big stick to bring out. The objective is to solve the problem.'' Somalis say the commission has done that for them by acting as an employment broker and diplomat to the immigrant community. "We have a different culture and a different religion,'' Warsame said, "but that doesn't mean we don't have the same rights that other Americans have. "People have to accept us. We live here legally. We are a part of Columbus.''
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| | Friday, December 29, 2000 - 09:48 pm To: Idiot of Columbus (so-called Prince of Columbus) I will said to you a few words "YOU ARE REALLY SICK" forget tribalism, people of Columbus are one and united in the name of Somali. from Michigan
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| | Saturday, December 30, 2000 - 08:15 am Ms. Anonymous, I can see why you crying but hey your uncle "Hassan Omar" will soon face real challenge from a man he considers his nightmare. Other than that, "af caytama ninkiisa ku yaal." Good luck.
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| | Thursday, January 04, 2001 - 09:22 pm To: The Sickness of Columbus I am not she, I am he and Hassan Omar or marehan clan is not my uncles, I am not Darood neither I have been in Columbus. I live in Michigan, I just hate why someone like you get jealous for his Somali brother, cause he is another tribe and sub-clan. You know why we are here Qabyaalad ayaa baabisay waddankeeni, iska saar cudurka qabyaalada, iyo xaasidnimadda, wax wada qabsada. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR BACKSTABBING.
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| | Friday, January 05, 2001 - 05:20 am Ms. Osman, somewhere is itching you and should see the doctor. All the sudden you are posting somewhere in Michigan and trying to defend your uncle Hassan Omar whom you don't know. Nobody in this world would defend someone unless there is relationship. Even lawyers would not defend you unless you paid the dues. So, chill out and tell your uncle, the nightmare man has been following him and will do anything he can to stop for having another Afweine in Somali community in Columbus. Tell your uncle I am not and will not ready to co-operate with him. Good luck
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| | Sunday, January 07, 2001 - 10:08 pm I swear to allah I didnot know this person neither I am in columbus. Believe me, I just hate you hatred to your somali brother. Siyad Barre was real somali, who built the country, can you compare to aided, Igal, Abdulahi Yusuf, Shaati Guduud etc. Whether you beleive or not, I am in Detroit.
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| | Sunday, January 07, 2001 - 10:13 pm TO: PRINCESS OF COLUMBUS I swear to Allah I didn't know this person neither I am in Columbus. Believe me, I just hate you hatred to your Somali brother. Siyad Barre was real Somali, who built the country, can you compare to aided, Igal, Abdulahi Yusuf, Shaati Guduud etc. Whether you believe or not, I am in Detroit.
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| | Monday, January 08, 2001 - 08:40 am Cisman; Who made these men Aidid, Egal, Abdullahi Yusuf, Shaatigaduud? Siad Barre brought these men into the Somali Political scene. In 1990 If Siad Barre would left the power today Somalia would have been a peaceful country. Besides how come you said Siad Barre was a real man, Read below article SIAD'S SAD LEGACY by Richard Greenfield Octogenarian dictator Mohamed Siad Barre told a group of elders in Mogadishu last year: "I came to power with a gun; only the gun can make me go." After a fierce battle, he is gone, but his 20-year rule has left a harsh legacy. In two reports, one filed from Mogadishu days after Barre's fall, our correspondents analyze the brutal history which led up to the government's overthrow, as well as the perspectives of the new leadership and the Somali people at the dawn of a new era. Somalis share a common language, religion, culture, literature, and economy--even with their immediate neighbors on every land frontier. Even so, Somali society, and therefore Somalia's politics, since long before independence in 1960, has been based on a complicated interrelationship between its many clan families, clans, and sub-clans. In January, Major general Mohamed Siad Barre, the octogenarian ruler of Somalia, himself from a minority clan, discovered that he had run out of support. His secret political repertoire of divide and rule options had finally collapsed. Civil conflict, which had affected other parts of the country for two years, engulfed Mogadishu, the capital city. Barre's father small clan, the Marehan, and even his own family network of dependents and relatives by marriage were at each other's throats. Despite strident but even more improbable denials by a diplomatic corps continually diminished by defections, this process has been apparent to political analysts for several years (see Africa Report, vol. 32. No. 3, 1987). But for Somalia's own discerning traditional leaders to approach and caution such a dictator on his home ground has proved quite another matter. It was not for nothing that the herd boys near Shiilaabo in the Ogaden, where Siad was born in 1910, gave him the nickname "Afweyne: or "Mighty Mouth." Customary nicknames are an important element of Somali culture, and this one stuck, despite efforts in later years by presidential aides to promote alternatives such as "Father of Wisdom." Last year elders from the important Hawiya clan, who dominate large areas of central and southern Somalia, including most of Mogadishu and its suburbs, urged Siad to resign. "When I came to Mogadishu." he stormed at them, "there was one road built by the Italians. If you try to force me to stand down, I will leave the city as I found it. I came to power with a gun; only the gun can make me go." Despairing of any peaceful change, the elders turned sadly away. Protests, pamphlets, and manifestos followed, but the more hardened--or realistic--took up the military challenge. There seemed no other way. In Somalia, confrontation has long revolved around clan groupings, and its effectiveness has depended on the cooperation and alliances forged by their leaders. This has always been the case, although for years clan affiliations could not be publicly mentioned. But they were. The Somali Republic was only nine years old when Maj. Gen. Siad Barre led 20 army officers and five police officers to stage a "bloodless" coup, soon after redefined as a "revolution." Successive, fairly tolerant but complacent civilian regimes had made the mistake of ignoring mounting public disquiet over nepotism, friction, and favoritism based on "clanism" and disturbing levels of corruption. Not all politicians lost public favor, but there was considerable disillusion--even exasperation--when, for example, more than 60 political parties, several with narrow, uninspiring can bases, contested only 123 parliamentary seats. There was thus initial acclaim when Barre ordered the detention of significant political figures, the suspension of the constitution, the banning of the mention of clans and former political parties, the closure the National Assembly, and the abolition of the Supreme Court. Elections were promised, but the country soon renamed the Somali Democracy Republic. For the next few years least, Barre took care to cultivate consensus for successive changes but the path toward personal dictatorship was soon defined. During ensuing 12 months, after which scientific socialism," an alien creed in an Islamic country was announced without any public debate as the new national credo, potential critics and rivals were detained and in some cases executed. Barre became head of state and chairman of the Supreme Revolutionary Council, of its politburo, of the cabinet, and of each of the newly established committees for defense, security, and even judicial matters. Statues to national heroes were raised throughout the land. Indoctrination centers introduced slogans and mass mobilization campaigns stressed an end to clan feuds and conflicts over water and grazing. To their credit, they promoted self reliance, literacy, and a new roman script, the introduction of which was a courageous and major achievement. However, investigations into the previous misuse of political funds which were also accessible to army leaders had to be abandoned when it was realized where they might lead. The complex security paraphernalia and the paramilitary organizations so typical of all repressive states, whether of the right or the left (and Somalia was a confused mixture of both), were quickly installed. With enthusiastic help from the former German Democratic Republic and the KGB, they proliferated. A new National Security Service soon began to run its own interrogation and detention centers and even courts. "Counter-revolutionary" behavior was condemned. Prison conditions for a growing number of political and other prisoners were uniformly harsh, and torture was rife. Added to this, the public had to suffer additional surveillance and harassment from youthful and over-zealous Victory Pioneers. There had been military cooperation since 1963, but in 1974 Barre signed a fully treaty of friendship and cooperation with the Soviet Union. Socialist policies, nationalization, and state control over production, exports, and imports were implemented through mushrooming, though uneconomic, state agencies. However, although much publicized, such measures did not greatly affect the vital trade in live animals and livestock products, and many small firms and traders continued to prosper, for Somalis are both devout Muslims and natural entrepreneurs. A new prosperous class of intermediaries arose between foreign contractors and the directors of government agencies. But this was hardly development. Most Somalis found little in the Communist message to admire. Indeed, there east widespread revulsion when, in January 1975, Barre ordered the execution of 10 out of 23 religious leaders arrested for publicly opposing government plans to change women's inheritance laws. There were clear signs that the "revolution" had reached the zenith of its popularity. Meanwhile, Barre continued to accumulate personal power. The need to "liberate" Somalis in all contiguous countries was more actively promulgated than under the preceding civilian regime. This made for unity, but at the cost of mounting international tension. In 1974, Barre served as chairman of the Organization of African Unity, and Somalia was quite generous in its support for African liberation struggles. But to his Soviet Friends, Barre proved unorthodox, more pragmatist than socialist. His models were cult personalities rather than ideologues. He openly admired the Chines as well as the Russians, and held Kim II Sung of North Korea, Gama Abel Nastier of Egypt, Sekou Tour`e of Guinea, and Nicolae Ceausescu of Romania in the highest esteem--the eventual overthrow of the last was not announced over Radio Mogadishu for several days. The failure of Barre's ill.-advised adventure in the Ogaden in support of the Western Somali Liberation Movement (WSLF) and the subsequent Somali defeat at the hands of Russian-led Ethiopian-Cuban forces in 1978 is a matter of record, as is the failure of the socialist economic experiment--not merely in Somalia--and the enormous problems presented by vast refugee flows and devastating drought. At times of such stress in any country's history, natural cleavage tensions, and divisions widen. The resulting number of challenges Barre's leadership, although often evoked nationwide sympathy were almost invariably clan-based. Trust was the guiding factor to organizers. On the surface, regime's "One Somalia" politics remained, but slowly it became possible for clan names once again to be publicly mentioned. Increasingly troubled, Barre courted sheikhs and elders played off clan against clan. For a long time, his survival appeared to some observers to depend on unwritten coalition between northern and two southern clans but to those closely involved became clear that he east increasingly driven back on unpopular unrealistic reliance on his own Marehan clan. Yet even their leaders were not excluded from the growing number of political prisoners (see Africa Report, vol 33, no. 1, 1988). He also came to rely more and more on his wider family, including his in-laws and those of his clansmen who were military men rather than politicians or bureaucrats. Their subsequent accelerated promotions and their greed and brutality wrecked both army morale and national pride in the military. As the economy further plummeted, these few followers opted for even greater repression. The National Assembly was suspended, and leading and popular ministers were detained without charge or trial, frequently in appalling conditions. States of emergency and midnight arrests became the norm. Opposition was left with no legitimate outlet, and popular movements organized themselves on a guerrilla basis, some even opting for the heretofore unthinkable--support from leaders of the Ethiopian empire-state. To Barre, once a security police officer, the mnemonics of liberation fronts merely hid angry and anti-clan groupings. Once he so identified enemies, their home areas were devastated. Among the first to suffer were the Majeerteen, often prominent in the civilian regimes of the 1960s and major supporters of the Somali Salvation Democratic Front (SSDF). But it was the confrontation with the Somali National Movement (SNM), led by the Isaak, the largest clan in the north, that revealed the depths which Barre and his relative generals were prepared to plumb. The word genocide came justly to be used by international human rights observers (see Africa Report, vol. 32, no. 5, 1987). Then in May 1986, while being driven through blinding rain, Barre's car hit a bus and was promptly rammed from the back by a bodyguard vehicle. Local people rushed to help, but in the confusion they were machine-gunned. Barre, in a coma, was saved by the hospital plane of the Saudi monarch, and he made a remarkable recovery. During his enforced absence, however, another factor--family squabbles over succession possibilities--began to further complicate the political scene. Barre was hard-pressed. He decided that the time was ripe to make a deal with Mingisto of Ethiopia. Neither dictator could any longer spare troops to face down each other. They both wished to transfer their soldiery to counter escalating civil conflict. Siad checked the WSLF, but before Mangiest could suppress the SNM, as he had the SSDF, the former's trained cadres went home. Their considerable military successes in northern Somalia took the regime by surprise, and it reacted without any restraint whatsoever. Hargeisa, the nation's second city and the former capital of British Somaliland, and other cities of the north, were devastated--strafed, rocketed, and bombed. Mercenary pilots from southern Africa were employed. Nor were the resulting massive columns of refugees spared. They flooded into neighboring Ethiopia, Djibouti, Kenya and elsewhere. Somali communities abroad financed a wider struggle: the final count down had begun. On the domestic front, cynicism and disillusion reigned. Foreign aid, especially that meant for Somalia's own purposely overestimated (but nonetheless enormous) refugee populations, came to be the national staple. Corruption was rife. Official meetings with the aging president developed into tireless monologues and on occasion into degrading diatribes. A diabetic, insomniac and chain-smoker, Barre frequently kept his weary ministers and officials up until dawn to little or no avail. The ogadeen, Siad's mother's clan, hitherto loyal, spawned yet another opposition force, the Somali Patriotic Movement (SPM). Government morale collapsed. Meantime, greedy relatives and hangers-on occupied themselves by securing ever-more uneconomic loans, unfulfilled contracts, and foreign exchange advances. Inflation soared. Banks collapsed while they poached and destroyed wild fauna on a prodigious scale. The leopard, once the national symbol of a proud nation, was soon all but extinct with in Somalia. Such activities were soon extended across the national borders into Ethiopia and in particular Kenya. The illicit trade in elephant ivory was so vast and profitable that Siad's own family and supporters became deeply involved, the country joining CITIES (the UN-sponsored convention which is supposed to control trade involving endangered species) and employing foreign agents as salesmen to lend an aura of respectability to the poaching and smuggling. The majority of Somalis, especially in the rural areas, has never been much impressed by gymnastic displays and spurious cultural shows. Ever-popular traditional poets had never paid anything but scant respect to Afweyne. But the machine-gunning of herds of domestic animals and the positioning of wells in disaffected areas was a new and totally alien dimension. Regardless of clan affiliation, there developed an absolute consensus that change had to be brought about and that Siad had to go. In the capital, demonstrations, explosions, looting--mainly by Barre's own guard--and indiscriminate killings became commonplace. Cosmetic liberalization measures were announced but ignored. Abroad too-China, Libya and South Africa apart--Siad ran out of arms suppliers. Criticized for human rights abuses, and with little continuing Pentagon interest in Somali military facilities, the U.S. Congress proved adamant; no human rights, no more aid. Even the mild and tactful Sir Geoffrey Howe of Britain chose neighboring Djibouti from which to deliver a stern rebuke as Somalis became the largest refugee community in Britain. The Egyptian and Italian governments used every artifice to bring about peaceful change but stopped short of abandoning their support for Siad Barre. They were thus unable to avoid the eventual evacuation of their diplomats and citizens, with all other foreigners. The UN closed down all its operations. Helicopters, transport planes, and boats were all used to evacuate foreign citizens. Symbolic of a changing world, Soviet diplomats took refuge in and were evacuated from the United States embassy compound, which east soon afterwards looted by the presidential guard. Somalia was effectively abandoned by the international community--not for the first time. Rebels, this time largely Hawiya, who had participated in the earlier struggles both of the SSDF and the SNM, but who, in 1989 had set up their own United Somali Congress (USC), infiltrated Mogadishu to confront the heavily armed president guard--the Red Berets--drawn to a man from Siad's small Marehan clan. The ailing regime rushed to divert money from Saudi Arabia to mobilize mercenary pilots and technicians but it ass all too late. Planes were destroyed on the ground. Influential Marehan, including military officers dispatched to loot their home areas began to flee abroad in substantial numbers, even seizing planes Mogadishu has been made to pay the same dreadful price as Hargeisa. The current priority in Somalia the restoration of peace, the rule of law, and the establishment of an interim administration leading democratic and just government. The dismantling of the dictatorship and its oppressive security apparatus, the rebuilding of the shattered Somali cities and economy and the re-establishment of international respect and commerce are likewise priorities. This will be a daunting task. But compromise between clans, the natural political division of the Somali nation, is not beyond the emerging leadership, once the personal dictatorship factor removed, so many educated and talented Somalians having defected over the years. There are of course serious problems to be identified addressed--the extent of decentralization and regional safeguard prominent among them. The influence of events in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union has doubtless accelerated the demand for similar changes in Africa--Somalia not least. But it must be stress that it is not mindless chaos but traditional Somali values that reasserting themselves through national culture. As a result, Africa one dictator less; nor is it likely Mohamed Siad Barre will be the last of his ilk to be so confronted.
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| | Monday, January 08, 2001 - 01:39 pm TO prince of columbus,let me tell U one thing why do U guys always talk about nothing,I live in columbus almost three years I don't support any group and I believe we have to have some kind of organazation,we R just new immigrants and we R facing lots of problems Iam glad I don'n need no help interms of speaking the language and taking care of my self.U need to know that there lots of our brothers who don't know how to speak english and they need help we don't have time to talk about who is the leader is or where he is from.indeed I don't suppor the new leader of somali org in columbus neither agianst them.so why don't U bring some good issues instead of talking about U and the other guy from michigan ballshit.I hate to use that language peace yo all.
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| | Monday, January 08, 2001 - 03:49 pm Jaango: Your points are well-taken.
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| | Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 05:23 am You guys need to spend your valuable time on something more productive. Waxad intaa ka doodaysaan LEBISKAN ayaa fiican iyo MAGAALADANAA isku dhacaysa. You need to go to school and work harder to build a better future for yourselves and your communities. And also let me respond to the Somali Canadians: The only thing you guys have achieved in Canada is a bad taste for clothes and bad manners. It's really sad that you hardly find any Somali who has done something good with his/her life in that country.I have seen people who spent 1/4 of their lives there and who can not even communicate in English properly. Dhaqan kale ood qaadataa ilbaxnimo iyo horumar maaha.Waxaa horumar iyo ilbaxnimo ah inaad naftaada wax u qabatid, dadkaaga waxtartid, meeshaad kasoo jeedanaa aanad ilaabin. Salaama Allaikum
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| | Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 02:39 pm Cabdirahman: Though I never been in Canada, I wonder what is bothering you really? Your double-standard ideas need to be caught. One hand you are suggesting that people out here to improve their language while your broken English needs an improvement. Start yourself then advocate later on. Do we have deal here? Cheers
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| | Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 03:18 pm walaalayaal waxaan halkaan ka baafinayaa gabar magaceeda la yitaahdo mulki cabdi ninkeda layiraahdo caduqaadir dheere sidoo kale wiilka la yiraahdo cabdifataax suulay iyoba inankale oo layiraahdo maxamed niiniile oo degan ohio, colompas marka walaalayaal sadexdaa qof kama aan helin wax war ah in mudo ah sidaa daraadeed ayaan ka codsanayaa dadweeynaha sharafta leh haday garanayaan in ay ila soo soo socodsiiyaan mahad sanidiin. waxaad igala soo socod siin kartiin halkaan ama adareeeskan. ilhan201@hotmail.com
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| | Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 07:25 am to:prince of columbus,thanks bro I think we have lots of common,second there is no room somali canadian in this page,don't get me wrong,U guys R cousing lots of problems here in co,how came U drive ontorio tag in columbus,If U wanna move to co,U welcome more than anything else,peace take care.
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| | Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 08:06 am Prince of Columbus: You are very interesting. Any email please???? lot's of Questions to ask.
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| | Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 02:14 pm Jaango: It is a good question how come Somali-Canadians are driving Ontario tag in Columbus? we have to ask that question to Somali-Canadians. Guess what we have similar problem with brothers and sisters from Europe. They are using European driver licence to drive cars here in Columbus.
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| | Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 02:20 pm I respectfully urge people who visit Ohio's cave to help sister Mariam to locate the people she is looking for. Nasra if you would like to e-mail me here is my e-mail: liban10@hotmail.com
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| | Friday, January 19, 2001 - 09:25 am Hi reer Columbus
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| | Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 04:42 pm HI colmbus community. well it's intersting to come and visit in this page it's my first time to visist i have never seen huge somalis says we have a good place to live and good organizations that is wonderfull i went ohi last crismas it' wasn't bad when i ask the people couple questions pple over there every one is like the place and they told alot pple coming and coming everwhere in united stats and canda too so no problem about their live. and i like alot things they had except lack of security after i visit one of somali store they called african fashion and it'was lacked in and pple selling come and see us the miror and i ask what is this they told me we scare alot robers going on in the city i hate to hear that becouse most of human needs are security. but nothing bad i saw just it's old state doesn't have technollege and assemble jobs they are the centre of goads and heavey instruments. i had a good time so iam glad guys you said we have oppourtuniy and alot intresting. in this page abdiaziaz doing great job. brother keep up the good work. your sister hibak.
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| | Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 06:37 am hi , waa idn salaamay dhamaantiin dhallinyaro wiil iyo gabdhaba , it, s actually great for every somalians where ever they are to get like chance in order to discuss the real somali life in the ouside. if i add my idea . i wanna say some thing to br abdi aziz . br you said there are somalies coming from other states to columbus ohoi, and getting help from somali community.. br , i was living in columbus around 3 years , you are talkin about hepl they give someone ,but they never exist, i tried to find somali community in columbus when i get there i saw like family house where they were tal;king about families , actually there is a guy who was ellected to be somali community leader but he never know wath is going on , he dont even been in universityi mean [ he isnot qualified for this possision ] so abdiaziz let,s get somali community in columbus and bring the right person who qualify for this posssision , how can we find out the right person we ganna make fair ellection not tripe elllectoin , we ask every candidate to display wath kind of certificate he get , before we start voting , thats all br
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| | Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 10:37 am Ahmed, How are you going to arrange a fair ellection in the Somali community? Who would be the right person for that position?
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| | Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 12:07 pm Yasin: Why are you so worried who would be the right person of that position? One thing for sure Mr. Omar, self-procalaimed President of Somali community will not be right cadidate because he does not have the experience and an education to lead Somali Community.
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| | Friday, January 26, 2001 - 03:27 am I didn't say i was worried..i just asked a question..bro don't misunderstand me I just happen to know that Somalis can never have a fair and free election.Education and experience alone are not enough.We need some one with integrity.....Qof masuul ah oo sharaf leh..
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| | Friday, January 26, 2001 - 06:31 am Yasin: Somalis can have fair and free election as long as we try to stay away calooshod u shaqeystayaal ka who trying to poinson on us like Mr. Omar. That is what we needed to do.
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| | Friday, January 26, 2001 - 08:03 am I don't really know who Mr. Omar is... And i don't want to talk about individuals.... But there is one thing i know....the whole process of establishing the current Somali Community is wrong...There is no one united community here...there are communities...And that's how we have been from time immemorial... The question is ...how do we get past this? How do we bring about a community that's one and united
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| | Friday, January 26, 2001 - 11:39 am to the Prince; It seems to me there is more to the story than you letting us know, what is really happenning between you and the so called president of the Community?, furthermore, if you have to run for an election, please convince us that you will be able to do the job better than Omar and what your qualifications are to run a non-profit organization, instead of trash talking the poor fella. Honestly, I don't particularly care for Omar either.
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| | Friday, January 26, 2001 - 12:42 pm Mr. Yasin: You are twisting the words in hopes of trying to come up something different. There are no communities here in Columbus and all Somalis in Columbus Ohio got one community as our brother Abdiaziz had said. But, there is a man Mr. Omar, self-proclaiming President of Somali Community, trying to break down vigrously the mutual bond of brotherhood among Somalis. We should confront his poisoness agenda to divide Somalis and that will let us to stay strong and united. Before Mr.Omar's arrival in Columbus, Somalis had strong community until now they have but this man is doing a lot of things which is dividing Somalis. So the question is: how are we going to get rid of this individual called Mr. Omar? To: Mr Mursal: Somewhere is itching you and I didn't say that I would run to election. You see you are putting my mouth words that I've not said. The reason I am chasing this man called Mr. Omar is because of his low mentality of telling his clansmen that they are predominately in Columbus and they should rule. That is tactic of deviding Somalis which I against it.
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| | Friday, January 26, 2001 - 02:49 pm Prince of Columbus, I don't wanna argue with you.You seem to be looking for a fight.You don't even know me and you are already misinterpretting my words.I don't know how you can be in a position to criticize any body with that kind of an attitude.....
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| | Friday, January 26, 2001 - 06:54 pm hello my fellow somalian people,I think we need to have a fair discustion,we don't have to attack indiviluas,all we need to to find out is wether the new so called somalian community chairman is the right person for the job or not.indeed we have lots of problems in columbus and we need to find out some one who is educated and well prepared.I know how hard it's to held fair elections without tribe or qabiil,qabiil.thanks agian and let's be fair without attacking personally,peace all.
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| | Friday, January 26, 2001 - 08:22 pm you guys you all talk about fair ellection in columbus for the one who willll be the somali community leader in columbus ,of course we need it to happend, but there is roadblock,i mean there is some thing we can pass throuth unless we get used to , the guy who is the president always tells innocent ppl like elderly peaple handcaped fathers who dont go to work . if someone come against to him he conveince them that get guy must be from reer hebal or he get special interest, on my opinion the only way we can make this huge somali community in collumbus to be same like other communities in columbus is to arrenge a big meeting for the youth in columbus , and to display everyhis idea, when it happens that too many ppl intrachenge ideas specially young peaple at that time every thing could be fixed, and then we can nominate a new presedent
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| | Friday, January 26, 2001 - 09:45 pm To: Princess of Columbus I was away for couple of weeks out of states, I don't need to read what Richard Greenfield wrote, when Said Barre fire him, he become SNM sympathizer and bite the hand who feed him, he is mercenary who work for who ever pay him, he is not impartial person. But main reason I come back to this discussion is not this idiot Greenfield garbage but I figure out your tribe, which is ISAAQ. May Allah help you and cure your sickness. Good by my friend, don't waste your time replying for me, cause I’ant reading whatever your wrote.
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| | Friday, January 26, 2001 - 09:58 pm I think you ppl need each tribe a separate community one for darood, one for isaaq, one for hawiye and one for other tribes. if you did agree, then shut-fuk-up all of you are tribe driving idiots.
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| | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 09:27 am Yasin: Your contention is heading to wrong direction which you are trying to personolize it. Coming to this forum, in no way, I am looking to fight nor express profane language and that is something all mature individuals should aware of and stay away of it. Fair-minded individuals learn their mistakes and accept the critism and it is natural as well as it is way to learn your weakness. In your case you don't seem to accept critism at all and one wonders how would you learn your weakness if you don't wanna to hear your weakness points from your opponent. Don't be ashamed especially when your weak points were caught, however, try ways to come up rebuttal points and convincing argument as to why you think or believe your points were correct. We come to this forum to exchange ideas and at the same time to interact and get to know each other very respectfully way. If you feel your ideas are untouchable and can't be critized then you are in wrong forum brother.
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| | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 10:19 am Dear Ahmed Jama: You are correct on your durable explanation that we should organise and held big meeting among the Somalis in Columbus. Keep in mind though, if we don't confront the bad elements among us we will not achieve anything rather it will lead to us divided circle. In order for us to become succesful community, we need to engage better approach to convince and to make suitable to every Somali individuals to contribute both negative and positive to the Somali Community and make them feel that they are apart for one Somali Community regardless their race, origin [region] and etc. Last year when Somali Community meeting was held in Columbus, Mr. Omar disccused privately elder of his clansmen and convinced them not to elect someone other than him. He presuaded them that his clansmen are predominately in Columbus and no need for an election because he knew that is the only way to divert the attention from him loosing an election. Some individuals from his side then disturbed the meeting and outcome of the meeting was zero. Before Mr. Omar moved to Columbus from Virginia, Somalis had a president of community and I don't remember his name but he is from minority clan. When Mr. Omar came to Columbus, the first thing he did was to attack the president of Somali community during that time and he called names like "jareer can not lead us". And further he attacked Bravanese community which happen to be very large community in Columbus saying "we can't choose Gibilcad as our leaders" and individuals from Hiiraan and so on. Once very peaceful Somali community in Columbus that co-existed as one bond seem to be facing disintegration because of one man's selfish ideas and interest. It is always excellent idea before we become as communities to stay as one community and confront these bad elements who dividing us to stop their selfish and power hungry and tell them enough is enough we are Somalis and ONE COMMUNITY is our goal as nation and as people.
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| | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 10:26 am Cismaan: You made me laugh brother. I am not an Isaaq nor from Puntland. I respect every Somali clan.
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| | Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 05:31 am Greeting to all my fellow Somali brothers & sisters of Columbus. Let me first start by saying I really am quite delighted in seeing such a lively and intellectual discussion of clan politics without the disintigration to finger-pointing and name calling that often follows. O.K., we often say that there are great cultural barriers between Somalis and Americans who represent an absolutely different religion and culture, but the greatest barriers lie between us Somalis- a people who share a common language religion,beliefs, and goals-in the form of clanism. The Somali community here in Columbus really has a great chance for success,but only through mutual cooperation will we realize this success. I do not have much time, so I shall end with this: let us shed these shackles that hold us back from peace, let us shed these shackles of inhumanity, let us shed theses shackles we call clanism. peace.
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| | Sunday, January 28, 2001 - 11:44 am to.rince of colombos; thankyou live duscusion;ithin yuo from barawe, hiraan, or where>
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| | Monday, January 29, 2001 - 03:34 am Prince, I am not interested in learning any thing from you.You seem to be confused.... I think i am going to stop here.I think i don't belong here.... Thank you gentlemen Yasin
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| | Monday, January 29, 2001 - 06:22 am Prince, You were asked a fairly simple question, now, there are only two ways in which to answer, a) you have an answer or b) you don't. Do you see how simple it is?. Let me ask you again, what is it with you and Omar?. I have read most of your message on this page, but you have failed to convince me or any intellegent person for that matter, how & why you are better than he?. By the way I'm not itching, I just want you to state your case, just because you hate this person I should too. And finally Brother keep your temper under control and think before you type..OK>>>good day.
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| | Monday, January 29, 2001 - 11:25 am Mursal: If there is no place itching you, you would have unconditionally accepted clear answer that I gave you. Rather you choose other alternative. I've repeately said on many occasions that I do not interest to become Somali President Community and I got Hi-Tech job but when I see someone vanquishing healthy Somali community, it is my responsibilty as well as yours to stop and confront these individuals.
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| | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 08:54 am Dear prince; Take a deep breath and relax bro, you seem to be a very nice guy and well intentioned, but you lack the capacity to communicate what you want. I came to Columbus before you and anyone else for that matter, I share the same concerns you have for the Somali Community, and I'm also aware of what happened to the Leader (Abukar) when large number of Somalis started to move to Columbus, but there are ways to tackle the issues than resorting to name calling and using triblism. Wish you the best bro.
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| | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 10:44 am calasoow:war heedhaha xaad laqaylaydiin columbus waa laysugu yimid,You rememeber You guys used to call garbahaareey,but not anymore name any qabiil in somalia you gonna find in columbus,we don't need a chairman been nominated by his tripe mann all we need is fair election to choose the right person for the job other ways let every tripe choose their own mann,thanks guys,hey prince keep up the good job.
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| | Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 09:19 pm Prince of Columbus: Did you think the so-called baravense are Somalis, I did not think they are. Those light skin Arabs, Portuguese wannabe did not belong to Somalia, this people did not call themselves a Somalis. Who ever think they will lead a Somali people he is stupid. This people and other Arabs won’t be allowed to back Somalia. May be they going back Oman, Yemen or Milindi, Kenya or HELL.
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| | Wednesday, January 31, 2001 - 07:23 am Mr. Or Mrs Anonymous: I am not Pravanese and Pravanese people belong to Somalia. If we, Somalis in Columbus, need to reach matual understanding and brotherhood bond, we must respect all minority people, Reer Xamar, Bravanese, Jareer, Mashunguli, Gibilcad, Boon, etc. The era of foolishness is all over. If you stick to it then you fit the saying of " A spoon does not know the taste of soup, nor a fool learned the taste of wisdom and a fool sees not the same tree that a wise man sees." Another point is, I will not dignify your outpouring if you continue this kind of foolish language because people may never know the difference between a fool man and wise man. Good luck.
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| | Thursday, February 01, 2001 - 12:37 pm Prince; hadii barwaani aheyn yaa tahay?
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| | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 10:31 am War heedhe war dadkani maxay ahaayeen dee, miyasan ogeyn Somaliland in halka tan laga xushmeeyo
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| | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 12:15 pm am new to columbus and i was looking information about it. that was my intention when i visited this site. having read some of the postings here, i am really discouraged. everywhere, we somalis are obsessed with tribal bullshit and trivial things. some of the people here are arrogant and other are just confrontational. that is some warm welcome. i will be observing.
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| | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 02:39 pm i reckon , that ac/dc stands for anti chris, devel's children, .we are not united 100% or even 50% , but , that doesn't mean we give up the effort of those brothers and sisters working hard.and why do you want to censor people posting their views anyways.the second comment is in response to the fellow that said people in toronto are more educated than those in columbus.this is true , but before you post this comment , ask yourself , have the somalis in columbus had the opportunity that the somali canadians have? no. while you were sucking the welfare out of the canadian taxpayers , the somalis in america were working hard to put food in the mouths of their children. so please don't put down our people , and create social classes. god bless
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| | Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 10:32 pm Prince of Foolish: You are sort of braveness or cad cad etc. you ARE NOT REAL Somali you are foreign who get opportunity from siyad barre to live Somalia. Now everybody will go back his own village his own tribe, I think you have no place to call home, you may stick with Columbus this is your home. NO CAD CAD, NO ARAB, NO BRAVENSES, REER XAMAR ETC. Jariir are Somali people, I don’t know who is Mashunguli, Gibilcad &, Boon. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT THIS IDEALISM FROM MANY SOMALIS FROM NORTH TO SOUTH.
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| | Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 12:27 am Prince ....you are prince in heart So don't waste your time and energy on guys that are damn. I do understand where you are coming from and agree with everything you said about sticking together etc although am not from USA . take care bro !....and don't over work yourself with these deaf and dumb bro...... your sister ..canab
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| | Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 12:34 am feb 14/01 does anyone know TIMCADE who lives in colubus ohio iam a from the uk . if any one know him respond
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| | Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 06:59 am Prince I think you are the only one who makes a good point here...............althought I don,t read everything that been written here................the little I seen you are to the Point.....This ppl no mater where they Go they will never Lear............they are Middle in USA........and reason they are Here Cuz......is their sick mind and their Triblism..........yet they don,t seem they Gain anything about, what they go throught 4 last Decade.........so please My prince, stay Positive and don,t let them discourage you, your wise thouths.....and ofcourse Pray 4 them...........after all that is the only think we can do 4 those Ignorent ppl! Ps. How is Ohio? I may Move there..........that is if I can live far a way from those Looser.......lol Peace
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| | Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 01:23 pm stupito princo colombos........we ...do not need you...here...get outtttttt
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| | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 07:35 am hotboy, yes I think I do know TimoCade.If he's the kinda guy who sleeps most of the day and goes out @ night while living off the money of someone else yeah he lives here in Columbus. Give me more info so I can find out for sure.
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| | Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 08:34 am hey Prince of Col. Ga maar door jonge,,want al die "Mongolen" je weet het wel wat ik bedoel,ze zijn lozers. Prince of Col,je bent een Schatje van me, echt waar. Ik haat een Somalische die andere Somalische discremineren door hun lichte huid of door hun clan. Ik ben zelf geen "reer Hamar" of "Jareer"of "Midgaan" maar ik heb medelijden met ze. Ik hoop dat ooit mijn peaple wordt herkent door waar ze wonen maar niet door hun "Qabiil". Ik woon zelf niet in USA maar ik heb wel famillie in Ohio die met deze klootzakken te maken hebben. Ik wens alle goede Somalische the best. Sorry hoor ,,,i can't write niether Eglish nor Somali.
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| | Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 10:20 am Salaam to all Somali-Ohions: Freedom of speech is not to insult and advocate lies agaist your opponent but rather to present your case in civilised manner. You may disagree people in their view points and assertions that is natural to have it as long as we respecting the people's veiw points. Unfortunately few brothers failed to understand purpose behind freedom of speech and resorted all argument into chaos sitution be it insult and all that kind of cheap shots and so on. Ultimately I decided not to respond their cases. As to other sisters and brothers who expressed anger over of these people, I would commend these brothers and sisters for their stance and wisdom for understanding the other side of the coin. To: Ahlaam I do not understand one word you wrote in your last statement please write in Somali or English or Arabic or French then I may understand it. Peace on earth Prince of Columbus
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| | Wednesday, February 21, 2001 - 07:27 pm ABDIAZIZ Yo i Hear I gotta say two thinks! dont forget about seattle yo THIS IS UNTOUCHABLE STATE !! alote of communities up in here! aight SEATTLE SEATTLE SEATTLE HAPPENDING
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| | Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 08:14 am TO.REER COLUMBUS WAAD SALAAMANTIHIIN WARYAA YAQAAN ALI HINDI. IYO AHMED MOHAMED OMAR OODEGAN COLUMBUS FADLAN CIDII TAQAANA HAILA SOO XARIIRISO BEJKAAN MAHAD SANID
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| | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 12:27 pm To Prince: First of all I hope, not really, i pray this time to the almighty that u won't start with ur reply "somewhere is itching u". It is disgusting sentence..nonesense.. However, I have wasted a lot of time by reading ur whole messages.. They suck bro. A handful brothers posted very interesting and intellegint ideas and points of view, some of them were curious about ur attitude, others wanted to discuss ur view of Mr. Omar, some hoped u to refrain urslf using the names of other tribes and finger pointing them. They also sounded solid and smart. However; I have never encountered useless, smart ass, rude comment in the whole forum except urs. U r making urslf an ass when u try to argue everybody who puts out a decent veiw about how they feel the current issue. I bet Abdi-aziz, ur mentor, himslf is laughing his pants off by reading ur comments in here. My brotherly advice is that u be a better regulor in the forum. To Mursal and Yasin and the rest of u..I hope u will keep the discusion interesting. P.S. Again Prince....don't say that itching thing
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| | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 08:50 am to prince two thumps up. waxaan rabaa ninka chalange gareey lahaa Mr omor. friend of mine ayaa tagay community guess what? reer kee aheed ayuu yiri. Mraka meesha uma aqaano comminity somali waa community of "GOOBILOOW" WHICH MEANS MAREEXAAN. i was disappointed. community qabiil leysku weydiinaaya. THE NEW GENERATION WILL CHALANGE HIM WITH FARE WELL.
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| | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 09:27 am To prince; Ha u jawaabin ciyaalkan baqbaqda ku haayo meeshan sida GLADITOR iyo xulafadiisa oo qabiil ku difaacayo omar. soomaali oo dhan waxaan u baahan tahay dad daacad ah qabiilna ka fog. Olol Entertianment haddaan nahay waxaan diyaar u nahay inaan taageerno Somali Community oo hal cod leh. Communities maanta jira waxay ku dhisan yihiin qabiil sida tan omar. Waxaan u baahanay inaan hal cod yeelano. Mahadasanidiin.
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| | Wednesday, March 07, 2001 - 03:13 pm Selam High Street & Olol Our mission should be an eradication so called the Somali Community President Omar. When few people can't take the heat, they would attack you personally. I am not suprised by their inane actions and few nomads talk louder than Arawelo. The Last Summer At Tim Hurton on Cleveland Ave. By Noble Prince of Columbus It was a hot summer day I went to the nearby Tim Hurton Shop, a place that has become a very popular gathering spot to many of the expatriate Somali community in this town of Columbus Ohio, where they come to exchange information or catch up with the latest news on the ever-changing saga of the events back home. Sitting in groups of four or more men in close proximities, they talked and attentively listened to each other, all eyes apparently fixated to whom ever did the the loudest talk of that moment. Intensely they all seemed eager to learn about something, some important event that must have occured recently, each one of them visibly in hurry to be among the first to learn about latest scoop. In the air, the combined voices of various groups of men talking at the same time as if in competition for the airwaves takes a different tone, fusing together and forming a single and constant humming noise, the description of which falls somewhere in between the buzzing sound that a swarm of african killer bees make when disturbed, and the deep toned sounds Budhist monks make when chanting their sacred prayers. Like you'd expect, each of the groups seems to be discussing a separate topic, topics that ranged from politics, warfare, business and everything in between. After an initial cultural jolt, the employees of this shop now seem to have gotten used to the way of the Somalis, and become a bit more tolerant to the sometimes strange manners of some of their customers, like the tendecy of one particular guy to carry at length a loud discussion across the tables, shouting to another guy at the other end of the store, stunning and shouting over the heads of everybody else. Necessity being the mother of all inventions, the cashiers have come up with a clever form of shorthand oral communications in their interactions with their new customers, all of it due to the fact that some of them have just come to the United States, and speak little or no english, so in a way, one might say it has become a business necessity to somehow find a way to understand their requests. Recently the management of this place has even taken additional right steps towards emproving the relations with their customers to the point of even hiring a couple of Somali employees working at this Tim Hurton shop, the only thing missing now is a sign that reads : WE SPEAK SOMALI ! I could hear one guy complain about someone wrecking his car, and then leaving him stuck with this huge repair bill, another one was discussing about his plans to go to college and study Computer Sciences. At another table there were a group of Cab drivers apparently exchanging notes about the tricks of their mean trade, and then every once in a while bursting into a gangster-like laughter. At another table two guys were locked into a heated debate on the political future of Somalia, each one of them sticking to his own version of the story, one of them apparently having made up his mind about any kind of government, and planning to have none of it , while the other argued parsuasively on the merits of an Islamist form of government, "why not give a chance ?" he parsuaded, "they are all the same, these politicians, greedy politicians !" the other one replied. On my left hand, another group is discussing about the intricate tactics of luring the enemy clan's militias into a deadly ambush, with details so elaborate and methodical that the only things missing were the charts, maps and the toy technicals. Amidst it all, a very familiar event was taking place in the far corner of the store, a guy was flirting with the waitress: " hey babe, whats up, feeling the heat today ? me too, smile smile, wink wink...", not really but you get the point. Sometimes the humming of the collective voices will stop altogether, and only then you'd be able to become aware and hear the voice of the very few female customers in the store, you'd also hear and realize that all along, there was cool Jazz playing in the backgroud , a fitting soundtrack to this surreal scene. Smokers were banished from this Tim Hurton Shop long ago, so in the heat of this summer, some chimney-heads were standing outside sweating profusely and blowing smoke into the smoldering air. I got an interesting in checking out the tags of some of the cars that were parked there, they were from states all over the USA, from Tenn, Pennsylvania, California, from Georgia, Florida, Utah , Texas you get my point, these are the real Nomads.
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| | Monday, March 12, 2001 - 01:07 pm The young Somali singer Maancelow will held the second tour party in Columbus Ohio on Mar 17, 2001. The location I don't know it.
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| | Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 08:33 am TO PRINCE OF COLS, PRINCE i live in columbus i heard about ya so many times but haven't seen ur face how about if you meet princess of columbus lol@ don't laugh i move to columbus two month ago and i am looking 4 my prince i guess u won't lose this one think about it..............if you coming to maanacelow i will see ya there jaaw
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| | Monday, April 02, 2001 - 09:55 pm To Princess Wajigeeyga waad arki Doontaa haduu ilaahey yiraahdo. Tan labaad waxaan Rabaa in aan wax yar ka hadlo MAREXAANKA Columbus isku aruursaday waa Dad aan aad u Necbahay Sababta oo ah waxeey Jaaniska ka helaaan Meel dhow sida Afweyn iyo kuwa kaleba. Balkan eeg XASSAN CUMAR ee jooga Columbus.
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| | Monday, April 02, 2001 - 10:06 pm Anigu MAREEXAAN ma necbi laakiin waxaan Necbahay kan XASSAN Dheere la yiraahdo Kaas oo igu tilmama in aan ahey nin Qabyaaladiista ah Taas oo u usheego Dhalin yarada Dagan COLUMBUS. Tusaale ahaan wuxuu ka dhaa dhiciyay in aan hada ka hor ku Dhibaateeyay Nin soomaaliyeed(VA) Hada waxan ku Jiraa waar diye oo ay iraadinayaan Ninkaas oo uu yiri Xasan waad dhibaa teeysay Niman ay qaraabo yihiin.
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| | Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 09:13 am Some people here are trying to use my name and other names to spread hatred against one group. What a suprise. I don't hate Marexan nor advocate any hatred agianst Marexan. Rest assured though, Prince of Columbus, will be victorious and strong at the end. Mr. or Mrs, or whoever you are, keep in mind, Prince of Columbus can't be defeated by subjecting hostage on his name. People know that I am your nightmare. PS. I don't write in Somali most of my comments :-)Poem from Prince: The Only Prince, The Only Prince of Heart, The Only Prince of Peace, The Only Prince of Wisdom Prince's heart goes to poor people, and Prince's peace message goes to wise people, prince's wisdom recieve respect and admiration The Only Prince, The Only Prince of Heart, The Only Prince of Peace, The Only Prince of Wisdom, that is Prince of Columbus. Prince of Columbus.
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| | Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 06:45 am hey you guys if you know caano arab and qorey they lived colmbus espicialy capital park so if you know them tell them that i need to talk to them and one thing my name is mohamed haji but they call me dooli thay mean mouse and i lived maine right now but i used to lived colmbus last summer they if you know tell them that i want them to talk to me i am writting this for people who lived colmbus or capitalk park ,thay all lived capitalk park,caano his real name is abdulkadir and qorey his real name is fahad,and arab
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