     Head-up | Unrecorded Date
Hi Somalis in Finland
Don't you think Finland is the most boring and also racist country in the world, especielly towards blacks and Somalis. If that is true isn't it high time to move from it and some other place more intresting and tolerant?. After all the world is big and full of intresting and fair places.
I thought Somalis are proud people who doesn't accept bullsshit easily. |
| helsinkilainen | Unrecorded Date
Salaam
Head-up;
You are right about somalis proudness, but that doesn't meant they hate to struggle in order to acheive what they want.
We somalis usually don't give up that easily, this new culture is challange not only for us but for finns too. so why we should run away?
We have acheived much so far, but there are still way far to go yet...... |
| Qaxwayste | Unrecorded Date
to Head
kud ka guur qanjo uguur, xagee kasoo guurtay markii hore lamadagaanka Kalahaari kadib Finland kadib Icelind. saaxib reer guurto saxa aat tahay taladada kiitos! lakiin ei! guuri mayno mudaan baraf dhexdiisa beer ku beeraynay iminka waa gurasho.
meesha aad joogto adiga hakuu macaato, dokumentigaaga lee walaalka ha udirin sidoo Finland oogu soo galo waayo hadhow maxaad kusoo noqon doontaa.
no ment offence was my point of view here together with joke.. |
| Mr_Right | Unrecorded Date
To Qaxweyste.
I reckon you are qaxweyste caadiya.
imisa kooboo qaxwe ayaad maalintii cabtaa?
no hard offence intended son. |
| Head-up | Unrecorded Date
Helsinkilainen
Good points brother, but how long do we need to stay in this country before we get our rightfull position in this society?. 10 years have passed since we came here, we still have lot of loosers who stand around the railways station, but we have also lot of us who worked very hard to make a life for themselves by getting education for example. And now what they get, nothing more than cleaning the dirty toilets, •••• and vomit around. We have very qualified people who can still not find a job other cleaning. That is unfair, and I wonder if we have to accept that for the rest of our lives or try to do something about it.
Fighters out there Keep up the hardwork and one day........
Qaxwayste
Adigu qaxwahaaga iska cab. Adigoo kale waan aqaan oo nolosha Finland u haysta inay jannadii tahay, waa damiir laawayaasha cayrta gurta oo aan haba yaraatee wax horumar ah rabin. Iska raaxayso gacalka waxaana inoo ballan ah toban sano ka bacdi iyo meeshay cayrtu ku geyso. Anigu waxaan la hadlay soomaalida damiirka keh oo rabta inay meel sare gaarto.
Head-up |
| Mr_Right | Unrecorded Date
I do tottaly concur with Head-Up in some measure.
hold your head up and take a deep breath son. |
| helsinkilainen | Unrecorded Date
Salaam 'aleukum
Head-up;
You have a point there, that some gratuated students are still hard for them to find a proper work place. Are we exceptional on this matter or Is common phenomina down here.
As I said my privious mail, there are still same thing not finish yet, remeber brother early 1990s.
It was hard to walk around in the city without trouble,,, what about early 1993/94/95 we broke the ice and find our way to Education Instituations.
Guess what, story still didn't finish, we should penetrate the job market as we did it before in other institutions. I am very worry about this new trends which appears nowdays "shortcut", "easy money",etc.
Who we should blame? I think it upto us how we to handle and find better and more stable work places than cheap and easy "Icehocky" jobs. |
| abdi | Unrecorded Date
guys i agreed 100% with helsinkilainen,beacuse i am student of information technology in college,and i been wrote now 15 application only to find for work placement,and none of them i did not get answer,so the problem is we came a wrong place and mother fucker •••• these people are hate us,when they saw on your application somalian nationlaty they throw away to the rubish.
but don give damn and stop working a dirty job, and goes to study your future and better job. |
| Head-up | Unrecorded Date
Brothers
Believe me we will stay in this country even a hundred years, study hard and do all kinds of jobs but we will still be considered stupid refugees and we will not be given the respect we deserve. So to me the only option is to pack our stuff and move on to some other more intresting places in the world, where we can be ourselves as independent individuals, good or bad and live our live our lives with a peace of mind.
After all what do we have in this country, no good jobs, no peace, no respect, no nothing. Life is too damn short to be wasted in a country like Finland.
Those of you who are suffering because of racism. Hold on and don't give up the fight, and don't go down to low-life either. One day life will treat us better.
Head-up |
| helsinkilainen | Unrecorded Date
Salaam 'aleukum
Head-up,
Bro, I agree wtih you about the current situation of the foreingner in finland generally, and somalis in particularlly. But there are other pameters which are effecting in one way or another, like finnish culture, diversity of foreingner's both culturelly and relioguosly with the finn, finnish civlizations and lastly but not least finnish goverment's policy toward the immagrations.
One of the signs of this frustation was last week's somalis demostration in front of finnish parlement. When we should get fully our rights and life in dignity? or should that ever acheive that? are we asking too much in too early? may be these questions are the one which must of us are looking for the answer.
How should we live with this people? What should we have to do in order to acheive what we want? What we want in the first place? should we have to take first step or host people should start first?.......THere are millions or even Billion questions need first to be answer. In mind time, bro and sister keep qruizing and be bride!!! |
| Qaxwayste | Unrecorded Date
to Head-up
I dont know your age and experiences, as Helsinkilainen said things here and elsewhere are same if not worst than here. I myself have been 5 EU countries lived and worked and have not seen better place than here, what have you been told Bro?. Bro if you want respect respect yourself and forget whether non-somali or even somali dont respect you.
waxaan kuwaydiin lahaa aan guurnee xagee leedahay aan uguurno?
marhore waxaad igu sheegtay inaan nin cayr kuunool ahay waxanse kuusheegi lahaa inaan 3 sano xoogayga cunayo intakahoraysayna aan arday ahaa AlaxmdLilah.
please heel this words:
Mar un la isma garab dago
dadku mawada sinaan karo maal muhu waa istaba maal
midna ceeshka daayacan uun daal usoo marin kamahelo daleelaha.
Risiq Ebe kuudiiday kaa duruqsanaa ninkuu duunyo siinayo deeqda udhowaa!!!!!
after all dont give up keep up the fight. iska ilow geedi aamin naftaada iyo Rabi hadaad guurteyna hortaada khayr Finland iyo inaga iska kayn dhexbax.
Qaxwayste |
| Head-up | Unrecorded Date
Folks
I am not talking about things like houses, jobs and so on. I had a dream last night and I saw my future in Finland as a Somali youngster whatever I am and whatever I am capable of doing, and guess what I saw years down the line. Gloom picture...
....despise, hate, disrespect, strange and angry looks, unfair treatment....For heaven's sake if you live in country for ten years, study, work hard, pay taxes, became citizen, you deserve some respect and good treatment. I don't see that forthcoming to us in Finland.
I can't stand anymore humiliation, I am paking my stuff and I will soon be out of this country, God bless you all who want to keep staying, I wish you all the best and good luck inyour stuggles. I will surely keep in touch and let you know where I end up. I am not expecting pradise somewhere else, but I will find a place where I can live in peace of mind, respect and personnal dignity. I am ready to start struggling all over again. Wish me luck.
* Qaxwayste raalli ka ahow haddii aan ku caayey. Kasoo qaad kaftan dhallinyaro iyo waxaas. Smile and see me as brother.
Head-up |
| Anonymous | Wednesday, September 20, 2000 - 01:51 am
LONDON IS THE PLACE,,
MEESHA SOOMALI EY KU HORUMARTEY WAA LODON .
RUNTII LOSERS WAA JIRAA EVERYWHERE.
SOO QATA PASPOORT AND SETLE AS EUROPEAN IN LONDON ,,,MASTER YOUR ENGLISH, GET YOUR DIPLOMAS TRANSLATED INTO ENGLISH LEVELS ,, AND BEFORE YOU ARE AMONGST THE CROWDS,,,,
I HAVE FRIENDS WHO DID IT , AND I AM PLANING TO DO IT NOW,,, |
| David Atorox | Friday, September 22, 2000 - 03:19 am
Why don't you all go back to your own country and make it good place to live? My opinion is that you should rebuild your country, not leave it and just move to another country stupid enough to give you everything including food, apartment and money. Don't let your country down. You belong there, we belong here. Finnish people have made this country a great place to live and yes, it hasn't been so easy always. What have you done for this country? What can we expect but crimes and endless complaining about racist finnish bastards? Please, I'd like to be answered. And stay quiet if you don't have anything else to say than "fuckin racist!", "you are gonna die soon" etc. |
| Steven Jobb | Friday, September 22, 2000 - 08:18 am
Hello Mr David Otorox
Are you really telling me that Finland is great place to live? Ask all those million finns who left that cold hellish place to enjoy their lives in other countries around the world. Froget about these bunch of Somalis in Finland for a while, it is upto them what they do for themselves and thier country. But let me tell you this, Finland is hell for its own people and everybody that comes to it. Believe me I have been there, and I know it. It is not just for bunch of racists but the attitude of the whole country is shhitt. Look around and tell me how many people you see smiling? they might have money, things and all, but something is just wrong with that country. I am blaming the Finnish people or anything, I am sure there are many grate Finns out there, but I am just saying what I feel.
A word to Somalis and all the so called colour people in Finland is, pack up and leave that country before you loose your sanity. Go somewher else, your countries or wherever, where you get what you deserve including respect. The world is much bigger and much more intresting to live than Finland.
One last caveat fo David, relax mate, if your country stays the way it is today, I assure you one day soon you will not see any foreigner living in there. I hope you are happy by then.
I rest my case, and I will not come back here, so don't waste your time replying to me.
Hasta Manana
Steven Jobb |
| Anonymous | Friday, September 22, 2000 - 11:18 am
< Good points brother, but how long do we need
< to stay in this country before we get our
< rightfull position in this society?. 10 years
< have passed since we came here, we still have
< lot of loosers who stand around the railways
< station, but we have also lot of us who worked
< very hard to make a life for themselves by
< getting education for example.
You are not entitled to any position in
Finland as it is not your country. You
are unwanted, uninvited aliens.
It is your duty to live in Somalia
and build it. Go there.
No other nation owes the Somalis
anything. If there are countries
which do not want Somalis, just stay
out of there. It is their country, not yours.
Only thieves want to move to other
man's house and live there. Honest
people live in their own houses. |
| Anonymous | Friday, September 22, 2000 - 11:29 am
abdi wrote
< guys i agreed 100% with helsinkilainen,beacuse
< i am student of information technology in
< college,and i been wrote now 15 application
< only to find for work placement,and none of
< them i did not get answer,so the problem is we
< came a wrong place and mother fucker ¥¥¥¥ these
< people are hate us,when they saw on your
< application somalian nationlaty they throw away
< to the rubish. but don give damn and stop
< working a dirty job, and goes to study your
< future and better job.
I am a Finn and have written much more
applications and got no answer.
But you are right. They do not want Somalis
(or me) and I think the Finns are entitled to that, because Finland is a country of Finns.
If you have studies in Finland, just
move back to Somalia. The UN say the Somaliland
is safe. Go there. Or move to some other
islamic black African country. |
| Anonymous | Friday, September 22, 2000 - 11:45 am
head-up wrote:
: Believe me we will stay in this country even a
: hundred years, study hard and do all kinds of
: jobs but we will still be considered stupid
: refugees and we will not be given the respect
: we deserve. So to me the only option is to pack
: our stuff and move on to some other more
: intresting places in the world, where we can be
: ourselves as independent individuals, good or
: bad and live our live our lives with a peace of
: mind.
I aggree. Howabout moving to Somalia? The
negative part is nobody is paying your rent there. But the good part is that Somalia is your own
country.
No Finn I know regard the Somalis as
stupid. But many think they are not honest
as they have abandonded Somalia. They
also say that the Somalis are arrogant
and do not want to live in Finland the
Finnish way.
I aggree the idea that Finland is
for Finns. Somalia is for Somalians.
Uganda is for Ugandas. Simple and everybody
likes that.
: After all what do we have in this country,
: no good jobs, no peace, no respect, no nothing.
: Life is too damn short to be wasted in a
: country like Finland.
:
: Those of you who are suffering because of
: racism. Hold on and don't give up the fight,
: and don't go down to low-life either. One day
: life will treat us better.
The Somalis are not sufferring racism, they
are suffering because they do not live in
Somalia. It is your duty to make Somalia
a good place to live. Move there!
x |
| Anonymous | Friday, September 22, 2000 - 12:03 pm
head-up wrote:
: I am not talking about things like houses, jobs
: and so on. I had a dream last night and I saw
: my future in Finland as a Somali youngster
: whatever I am and whatever I am capable of
: doing, and guess what I saw years down the
: line. Gloom picture...
:
: ....despise, hate, disrespect, strange and
: angry looks, unfair treatment....For heaven's
: sake if you live in country for ten years,
: study, work hard, pay taxes, became citizen,
: you deserve some respect and good treatment. I
: don't see that forthcoming to us in Finland.
:
:
: I can't stand anymore humiliation, I am paking
: my stuff and I will soon be out of this country,
: God bless you all who want to keep staying, I
: wish you all the best and good luck inyour
: stuggles. I will surely keep in touch and let
: you know where I end up. I am not expecting
: pradise somewhere else, but I will find a place
: where I can live in peace of mind, respect and
: personnal dignity. I am ready to start
: struggling all over again. Wish me luck.
I wish you luck. There is a place for you, I mean
Somalia and Somaliland. The UN says Somaliland
is safe.
BTW. You are not alone. There are countries
where we are not wanted as we are not compatible with those countries. The applies to white
people, too.
I aggree that the Finns may give you angry
looks. They want to live in a Finnish Finland.
You know, white people, blue eyes, fair hair etc.
Finland is their country, so they are
entitled to think so.
x |
| stondis | Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 12:34 am
Yawn, yawn, yawn... Anons. Get the •••• out of these discussions. They are not meant for YOU! Get the •••• out of here and get a life! This site is meant for US! Motherfuckng-white-asslicking-goonfaced-son-of-a-bitch!! How about taking a long hike into an employment agency and getting a job which you seem to be lacking.You are nothing but white thrash licking our boots, which by the way was bought by your whorish mother who's fucked by Somalis probably while you're out getting drunk! Hey, I know who you are, cause I fucked your wife and daughter in your celer while you were upstairs. Boy, did those bitches make some noise. I can smell their cunts on my shirt.I am getting a hard on just thinking about it. I'll be fucking your mom-granny and your daughter next time!!! Yummy. |
| Anonymous | Thursday, October 05, 2000 - 01:20 pm
I think the Finns are entitled to write
to this forum because it deals with Finland.
Well, I am a Finn. I regard the Somali
people as a burden to Finland. You harm
our country.
Let me suggest the Somali readers here
think why they are not liked.
x |
