     Anonymous | Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 03:28 pm
WHAT IS YOUR FAVOURITE SURA, WHY, AND CAN YOU TRANSLATE IT PLEASE? OR SAY WHAT IT'S ABOUT?? |
| Somalisist@ | Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 05:38 pm
MY favuorite sura is Kahaf,,,,,,,
I also heard it's good to read that sure ,,Friday |
| ME again | Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 05:40 pm
sorry I ment to say that sura,,,inseat of saying sure,,,, .......try reading friday's |
| Aliyyah | Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 05:45 pm
surah yusuf. It is the most beautiful story in the whole quran. |
| TLG | Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 07:22 pm
The whole Quran is amazing but if I had to pick one, I would agree with Alliyah. I also love Sura Ar-Rahman (55). Almost every verse ends with "Then which of the blessings of your lord will you both (jinns and humankind) deny? |
| MAD MAC | Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 12:17 am
Ezekhial 25:17. The path of the righteous man is beset upon all sides by the inequities of the wicked and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepards the righteous through the shadow of the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brothers keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord, when I lay my Vengeance upon thee. |
| daalane. | Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 12:47 am
MAD.
The question was about the Quran and not about the bible. Furthermore, If that is your pick from the bible and you argued against the verses of the Quran that speak of vengeance, I see double standard employment here. Your hypocricy is evident in your input. Evident also, is how people can view what they want as "harmless". |
| common | Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 03:42 am
Dalaane
brother MM has never been known to pay attention to detail, he he were somali and a member of a tribe, his tribe would probably be blamed for this bad characteristics. The quote he uses is more out of reverence for Samuel L jackson than a Supreme being.
I love Sura Al Rahman too, although i think the more i learn the more i will love.
did you guys know that one man was reported to go to heaven out of his love for a sura. the Sura was Quul u Allahu |
| MAD MAC | Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 05:36 am
Common
OK, so it's not an accurrate quote. It's better than the original. It sounds cool. When I am forced to kill a Somali Warlord I can say that line right beforehand. It rules!!!!!
And I am a member of a clan (not tribe, Somalia doesn't have tribes worth mentioning, Somalia has Clans). The Clan of McPherson, it's a famous Scottish clan and we kicked some Stewart butt long ago. |
| MAD MAC | Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 05:40 am
Dalaane
OK, I admit it is hypocritical - but it still sounds cool. My favorite Biblical quotes are all about vengeance and violence and stuff. I can't help it. I'm a violent man at heart, although I try to behave myself. |
| common | Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 07:37 am
how come you scottish now, and not irish anymore?
isn't england inbetween them?, and what happened to the red indian blood, you really are a something else, or at the very least, something weird |
| Anonymous | Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 09:00 am
Salaams,
I have not finished reading the whole Quran yet. This is something I want do by the end of this year Insha Allah. I read many surahs repeatedly, one of the Sura al-rahman. I love reciting the last two verses of Sura al-baqara. Sura Iqtarib must be one that brings tear in my eyes.
MM,
and what are you doing here if you not saying which surah you like reading it??/ It does not matter if you are not a muslim. But please do not distract the topic agian.
Arawello |
| MAD MAC | Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 11:25 am
Arawello
You're a sweet woman, but sometimes you're more serious than a heart attack. Lighten up a little. OK, how about this one :
Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievesnouss which they have prescribed.
To turn aside the needy from judgement, and to take away the right from the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless.
And what will ye do in the day of visitation, and in the desolation which shall come from far? and where will ye leave your glory?
Without me they shall bow down under the prisoners and they shall fall under the slain. For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Common
Scotch-Irish dude, Scotch-Irish. And really more than that. It break down like this. Grandfather on Fathers side is Scotch. Grandfather on Mothers side is Irish. Grandmother on Father side is American Indian. Grandmother on Mothers side is French/English. Got it? |
| babilon | Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 11:46 am
Every Sura every letter every page everything in our Glorious Holy Quran is out of this world and no matter how u look at it or perceive it all the Sura's are magnificent.
Therefore my favorite Sura is All the Sura's.
But to take another peak of this topic, are we just listening to the Holy Quran or basing and expressing our daily life's on it's message. If we are only just listening then we are doing the opposite of what the Quran is telling us.
The holy Quran has a message which is a way of life in this world and the here after. It describes vividly on our path to our destiny, a destiny which has no end. So brothers and sisters lets not dwell on this meager glitter and glamour which is nothing other than illusion and fake and base our life on the teachings and message of our Holy Quran.
Till then fii amaani Laah.
Wish u QALBI SALIIM. |
| Anonymous | Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 05:47 pm
Please no more quotes from the bible and no more unwanted discussions about unwanted people and their unimportant heritage. got it? |
| Sahal | Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 10:49 pm
I must say i like the topic. Mad Mac no disrespect but those jokes are lame. And you'd be happy to know that when we talk about our religion we mean business. I don't know what your religion is but let's respect each other. |
| arawello | Thursday, January 25, 2001 - 09:29 am
MM,
Well, That should be the way when anyone crosses the border.
And what are those lines you wrote here, are they from your note, or where??? |
| Nasra | Friday, January 26, 2001 - 06:07 am
I love all of the sura in the Quran, but my favourite one has to be sura Nuux. |
| Samiir | Friday, January 26, 2001 - 07:03 am
As a matter of fact, the entire Qur'an is so fascinating and miraculous. Although I read the Qur'an almost everyday and don't understant all its meaning, yet, my favorite Suras are: Sura Fatiha, Al-qari'a, and Al-rahman. Another marvelous Sura is Sura Al-nur which describes Allah's attributes. Sorry, can't quotes the meanings as I'm at work. |
| MAD MAC | Friday, January 26, 2001 - 11:57 pm
Sahal
Actually I have a lot of respect for Islam, but consider it to be a very abused religion by it's followers. Many modern (by modern I mean current) Muslims are using Islam to justify murder. It's not fair to Islam of course. Islam does not preach murder, I know that. The circumstances under which deadly force is authorized is narrow and does not include using violence just to get your own way or force you beliefs on others. But that is happening in a lot of places right now. The people on this net, of course, are all intelligent, well meaning folks. I suspect they don't relate to this virulent form of Islam. But all systems, even divine ones, are vulnerable to manipulation and abuse. But all of that having been said, I do appreciate that most believers take their religion fairly seriously. But try and understand other points of view. There are some who hold nothing as sacred - I'm one of those. Not that I hold nothing of value. Not that I don't consider Allah great. Just that I look at EVERYTHING with a critical eye. So don't mistake this critical and sometimes sarcastic approach as a lack of respect. I really do respect everyone here on Islam net. There basically a bunch of good folks, even if they aren't very much like me. |
| Arawello | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 08:42 am
MM,
that is not true. we do like you and pray for you secretly that Allah may guide you. |
| Faaiso | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 09:00 am
I love whole the Quran and like Arawello, I have not finished the Quran. I pray for anyone who is not a muslim to understand Islam. The first chapter of the Qura, suah Fatiha contains dua and anyone who truly bows down and ask Allah swt guidance, he will find the light of Islam. you need to clear your hearts rom any pre-conceptions about Islam. and see, the God that Muslim worship as that you beleave in to create you. May Allah SWt help all of us. Amen. |
| Miskiin-Macruuf-Waryaa | Saturday, January 27, 2001 - 11:08 am
Salama...
Hadiis su'aasha ays tahey Suuratee ugu Jeceshahey, iyaah, ii sug bo kistoo.
Quraanka, kuligiis, erey ilaa erey, Ilaah haa ila ug, sidaan ugu jeclahey.
Lakiin, dhab ahaan, aheey, way jirtaa, kuwaa an qaas ahaan ugu jeclahey.
Kuwaas oo kala ah:
Suuratul Shams:
"Wa-Shamsi, Wa luxaa Haa!"
"Wal-Qamari idaa Talaa Haa!"
"Wa...!"
Suuratul Raxmaan.
Suuratul Yaa-Siin.
Suuratul Nuur.
_______________________
Nabadeey!! |
| Sahal | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 08:31 am
Mad Mac.
First of all, i appreciate the nice way you express your value. Seccond of all i pray to Allah that he guide you. No compulsion in religion; You can believe what you like. As you know there is no system that can be compare with this complete way of life. I'll admit that ppl aren't as perfect as the word of al-mighty Allah. At the same time, i don't know one single muslim country that promotes voilence or abuse. Even non-moslem countries don't do that. But please give me one example of how current muslims manipulate or abuse the qur'aan. And my other question is do you have any religion or you're athiest. thanx |
| DIGE | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 03:02 am
ASALAAMU CALAYKUM, waxaan jellshsy suuratul ARAXMAAN, mida labaad walahay waxaan ogaysiinayaa in aan wakhti la isaga lumin MACMAC waayo qasid mooyee faaiidaysi uma jeedo wuxuuna doonayaa in uu idinka majara habaabiyo wixii aad ka hadlayseen oo ahha SURADEE QURAABNKA ugu jeceshahay, idinkuna furo dood kale sida uu samaynayo!!!! meelakastana saas buu uqasayaa in taan ka akhristay, markaa waxaan idin dhihi lahaa aamuska ugu dadaala ALLENA WUXUU YIRI, IDAA KHAADHABA HUMU JAAHILUUNA QAALUU SALAAMAA, macnaheeda ayadaa faa fahan teen MAC intaa ayaa kjufilan laakiin hadii wsoo qoraba ad ka jawaabtaan . muran iyo in uu waxaad ka hadlayseen idinka kaxeeyo waxaan ahayn ka faa iidimaysaan |
| MAD MAC | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 03:38 am
Sahal
Example: Hizbollah. Uses Islam to justify the murder of innocents.
Al-Itihad. Uses murder of innocents in the Ogaden and also in Somalia for political purposes. Justifies it through Islam.
GIA in Algeria. Uses Islam to justify horrible attrocities. Reality is a political struggle to seize control of Algerian government.
I could go on, but you've got the idea. I am particularly concerned that this takes hold in Somalia. After cataclysmic events, states are very vulnerable to extremism. I hope that post civil-war Somalia, socially, looks like pre-civil war Somalia and not like modern day Afghanistan. |
| Idea | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 04:01 pm
Though Quran as a whole i love it. But i read alot surat Yasin esp before i take my exams. I always had the fear that some weird question will give me a heart attack and eventually lead to my death :-(
I also love reading ayah al-kursi, protects you from all evils.
May Allah guide as all, amiin. |
| Sahal | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 10:30 am
Mad Mac: Let's be realistic and please speak of your mind; not somebody else's. What you've just said isnot of your thoughts but something you absorded it like sponge, or you hate moslems that much. Hizbollah are killing who? the innocent!! Give me a break. And GIA? don't even bring it here please. It's them or the government who is carrying out all this voilences against innocent ppl. Even the enemies of Allah are now admitting that the government is behind all these brutal attacks. Al-itihaad is killing who? Or are they being killed by the Ethopians? What about the brother and sister in ogadenia who have no rights whatsoever. Pleaaaaaaaaase!!!!! All you care is you and you alone, nothing else. And we will care us only, not what you say or do. |
| MAD MAC | Tuesday, February 06, 2001 - 02:53 am
Sahal
Are you saying that there are no people or groups of people who use Allahs name to justify violence that is otherwise not justifiable???? Are you saying GIA has not committed murder? Are you saying Al-Itihad has not committed murder???? You're kidding right? Is this a joke? I'll give Hizbollah the benefit of the doubt in that they at least try and confine most of their work against the IDF. But they have also sponsored plenty of attacks directed against non-combatants - not as collateral damage but with the deliberate intent of killing non-combatants. |
| Samiir | Tuesday, February 06, 2001 - 07:15 am
MAD MAC
I don't like the terms you used such as: terrorism, extremism etc..etc. You're talking the language of the media my dear. Do you consider Palestine, Chechnia, and Fis terrorists?. Well, if that's what you believe, let it be.
Don't ferget " One man's freedom is another man's terrorism ". |
| Samiir | Tuesday, February 06, 2001 - 07:17 am
MAD MAC
I don't like the terms you used such as: terrorism, extremism etc..etc. You're talking the language of the media my dear. Do you consider Palestine, Chechnia, and Fis terrorists?. Well, if that's what you believe, let it be.
Don't ferget " One man's freedom is another man's terrorism ". |
| Salaad | Tuesday, February 06, 2001 - 07:30 am
Asalaamu caleeykum.
Waa idin wada salaamay walaalaha islaamkoow salaan ka dib suuradda aan quraanka ugu jeclahay waa suuradda AL FATAX anagoo quraanka kuli wada jecel sidaas iyo nabaadiino wasalaamu calaykum waraxmatulaah.
Asalaamu Alaykum
First i love the whole Quran to recite and follow the pad of Allah(s.w.),my favourite sura in the Quran is sura AL FATAX wasalaamu alaykum waraxmatu Allah.your brother.Salaad. |
| FG. | Tuesday, February 06, 2001 - 02:06 pm
MAD.
I told you this several times before, You shouldn't be concerned with the internal affairs of muslims. Your judgement about them is unacceptable. Please, do invest in what is more appropriate for you such as learning Islam and praying to Allah that he guides you to his only path. May be, after you find the truth and the sweetness of monotheism, you can be concerned with whatever you want. First thing first.
Allah tells you in the Quran where you should start to have a common interest with muslims and Almighty said:
"3.64 Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will)." |
| MAD MAC | Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 05:16 am
F.G.
Actually I am a monotheist. I don't know how you concluded I wasn't.
Since you maintain I can not be concerned about the internal affairs of Muslims then I guess it's reasonable that I say you may not be concerned with the internal affairs of non-Muslims. Ergo you should stop criticizing Jews and Christians and Pagans etc. |
| FG. | Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 11:42 am
May peace be upon those who follow the guidance of Allah.
MAD MAC.
I am not a picking a fight with you. It is pointless. One more question though, If you insist on being a monotheist, why defend the jews and christians since they are not monotheists according to Allah and they are idol worshippers and human worshippers?. Why do you care about them?. You are contradicting yourself. Define monotheism so that I understand what you mean by saying that you are a monotheist?. Last time you were saying you were a macist.
I am not the one who spent months defending the murdering and unprecedented killings of young children and calling it "tactical" or whatever terminology you were using. You also confuse me with your character of "in-between". You are neither there nor here in terms of everything. Pick a side and speak from their point of view. |
| Asraar | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 05:15 am
It is diffcult to choose one ayah from the Quran as a favourite.
Today, this ayah comes to mind:-
AN-NAHL.104-105 Those who believe not in
the Signs of God,- God will not guide them,
and theirs will be a grievous Penalty.
It is those who believe not in the Signs of
God, that forge falsehood: it is they who
lie! |
| MAD MAC | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 08:59 am
F.G.
Your last line said it all "pick a side". Why should I?? I think they're all full of ••••. Everyone thinks he's got the answer. I quoted this once before but it's worth repeating "Say not I have found the path, say I have found a path." I told you before, but I'll tell you again, no one has this religious thing 100% right. The more I research it the more certain I am.
Monotheism: The worshiping of one God. Christians would certainly say they are monotheist. The trinity concept focuses around three in one - with the emphasis on the one. That is the three aspects of the ONE God. Ask a Christian or a Jew if they are monotheists or not. It is up to them to adjudicate that, not you and not the Qur'an. The Qur'an can not tell you what I or anyone else belives. That's ridiculous.
You ask me why I care about "them" (presumably Christians and Jews, but since I also care about Hindus and Bhudists, etc I assume you would mean them too). Because we are all in the same boat together. You just haven't figured that out yet. You are so sure of your moral superiority (flawed though it is) that anyone who isn't part of your faith ceases to have value. If they didn't cease to have value then you would care about "them" as well.
As for the situation in Somalia, we were killing people who were trying to kill us. It's really that simple. When you scrape away the veneer, that's what it comes down to. We weren't driving around town saying "Hey check it out, there goes a chick with a newborn, drop her and you get 50 bucks extra." No it went more like this. We're dricing down the street, say Via Lenin, suddenly an RPG round slams into the wall along the side of the road. Maybe a couple of AKs open up. We herring bone (tactical manuever designed to make a more difficult target and give all around security). Some woman down the street starts walking towards us. We are thinking 'this looks bizarre.' The we notice that a gun barrel is pointing out from under her arm. It start firing bursts in our direction. Meanwhile a crowd with woman and children has assembled on the other end of the street. Gun shots start emitting from there too, rounds start popping holes into our vehicles, into some of the soldiers too. So we decide it's time to go. We grease the woman and the guy behind her and off we go. That's more like the way it usually went down. I saw one kid, maybe five years old, fire an AK-47 (bullets were going everywhere, he could barely point the thing) at us. I saw one woman fire a pistol at us with a baby in her arms!!!! Why would a mother do that? I could go on but you get the idea. When bullets start flying woman and children should be rapidly moving indoors, not moving towards the sound of the guns. |
| Asma | Friday, February 09, 2001 - 03:47 am
Mad Mac do us a favour and stop trying to change the whole topic here. Incase you haven't noticed the discussion here is the holy Quran, if you wanna talk about the bible I suggest you find people who share your interests.
Anyway, the whole Quran is wonderful but I love listening to sura Yasin. The words of our creator never stop to amaze me and I have often wondered why Sura Yasin is read when someone is dying. |
| cheychaani | Sunday, February 11, 2001 - 05:04 pm
salaamu calaykum jameecan. well suratul yusuf is my favourite surah itis the best story . i also love suratul luqman. hey dude iam scared of washamsi man. even though it was long time i ago i remember the "duubid" |
| diinleh | Wednesday, February 14, 2001 - 05:02 pm
Salaam yaa akhwaanu muslimiin.
I love the whole quran, But there are sevaral suras that make me think and cry and they are as follows;
Surtul: Kahf: which talks about the anique story of asxaabul kahf, agroup of youngesters who excaped from their quum( comunity) because of their believe in the oneness of our lord( Allah).
Suratul: Yuusuf: the story of yusuf.
Suratul Yaasiin
suratul Ar Rahman: Fa bi ayi alaali rabikumaa tuka dibaan.The sinners will be known by their marks and they will be seized by their forelocks and their feet.
Suratul malk: Tabaarik: Let me remind you one of the ayat's of this sura:
He who greated the seven heavens one above another no want of proportion. Will you see in the creation of the most gracious . so turn your vision again seest you any flaw? Again turn your vision a second time: your vision will come back to you dull and discomfited in a state worn out.
Salaamu calykum |
| Anonymous | Thursday, February 15, 2001 - 08:08 pm
I like sura Ahad (qulhuwal Allah). It's one third of the quran! |
| MusLÎm_BØÿ613 | Wednesday, February 28, 2001 - 06:09 am
asalamu caleykum my muslim BROTHER AND SISTERS
i guess i ma my favourite surad be surad yosuf
don't know y...but its amazin' how it talks about all the prophets before our last prophet mohamed (SAW) may da blessing of allah be with him....anywayz yea thats about it
salaam |
