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     | Unrecorded Date Mohammed was born in Mecca, the son of Abdullah, a poor merchant of the powerful tribe of Quaraysh, hereditary guardians of the thrine in Mecca. Orphaned at six, he was brought up by his grandfather and uncle, Abu Talib, who trained him to be a merchant. At the age of 25 he led the caravans of a rich widow, Khadija (d.619), of the Asad clan (ups! not president Asad of Syria), who was so impressed by him that she offered him marriage and finacial security. She is believed to have been 40 when they met, but she bore him six children. These included their doughters Umm Kulthum, who married Uthman, the third caliph; and Fatima, who married Mohammed`s second cousin, Ali, the fourth Caliph, and founded the Fatimid dynasty. Mohammed`s marriage liberated him from the unfortunate finacial circumstances of his childhood and made him finacially independent. It also caused him to reflect deeply about the inequalities in Mecca society, which he saw to be changing into a trade driven society with no place in it for the unfortunate. While continuing as a merchant, Mohammed became increasingly concerned about the polytheism and superstion of the Meccans and other Arabs, some of whom worshipped idols. Also at that time, in S Arabia, the Jewish religion and chritianity flourished in some communities. Becoming interested in the Bible and the books of the Jews, he grew familiar with the teaching of Jesus Christ and his prophets, furthering his growing conviction that there was only one true God. He was increasingly drawn to religious contemplation, and in C.610, when he was 40, the angel Gabriel appeared to him on Mt Hira, near Mecca, and told him he was the messenger of God. About four years later (C.613), he was told to come forward publicly as a preacher. His teaching was collected and written down (C.650) as the Koran (recitation) revealed to him by God. When His wife and uncle died (both in C.616), Mohammed was reduced to poverty, having lost the protection of his family`s clan, but began to attract converts amongst pilgrims to Mecca from the town of Yathrib, an agricultural community to the North. By 622, the position of Mohammed and his small band of devoted followers in Mecca had become untenable. There was much persecution of those propounding the new religion, which came to be called Islam ("surrender" - to the will of God). Its followers were called Muslims or Moslems ("those who have surrendered"). They were saved by the invetation from the people of Yathrib, who hopped Mohammed would arbitrate in the feuds that racked their community. Mohammed travelled there, and this emigration, known as the Hegira, marks the beginning of the muslim era: 622 is the year from which the muslim calender begins. The name of the town was changed from Yathrib to Medina, "The city of the Prophet". In the first year of the Hegira, Mohammed was promoted to go to war with the enemies of Islam - in particular the Meccans - in the name of God, to protect and spread the faith. In 623 his muslims attacked Meccan forces, but he was severely wounded in the battle of Uhud (625). This reversal failed to dent his faith, and in 627 he repelled a Meccan siege of Medina. By 629 he was able to take control of Mecca, which recognized him as chief and prophet. By 630 he had control over all Arabia. In 632 he undertook his last pilgrimage to Mecca. He fell ill soon after his return that same year, and died in june at the home of his favourite of nine wives, Aïahah, the daughter of one of his first followers, Abu Bakr. His tomb in the mosque at Medina is venerated throughout Islam, as is the sacred city of Mecca. Courageous and resolute, during his lifetime Mohammed founded a state and a worldwide religion that today numbers over 700 million Muslims and provides the basis for Arab unity. end
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| | Unrecorded Date The Jews and Christain version of the history of MAXAMAD is not always the correct one since they do not believe MAXAMAD to be a prophet and this Father Michaels's version or his *his story* of MAXAMAD is no exception since he never mentioned anything about MAXAMAD being a messenger or a prophet, but this is what his own bible which he believes have to say about MAXAMAD: 'N PROFEET SAL EK VIR HULLE VERWEK UIT DIE MIDDE VAN HULLE BROERS, SOOS JY IS, EN EK SAL MY WOORDE IN SY MOND LE, EN HY SY SAL AAN HULLE SE ALLE WAT EK HOM BEVEEL. Deut.18: 18. The English translation reads as follows:- "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." Deut.18:18. Prophet Like Moses Having recited the verse in Afrikaans, I apologised for my uncertain pronunciation, The dominee assured me that I was doing fine. I enquired: "To whom does this prophecy refer?" Without the slightest hesitation he answered: "JESUS!" I asked: "Why Jesus?... his name is not mentioned here." The domin ee replied: "Since prophecies are word-pictures of something that is going to happen in the future, we find that the wordings of this verse adequately describe him. You see the most important words of this prophecy are 'SOOS JY IS' (like unto thee), - LIKE YOU - like Moses, and Jesus is like Moses. " I questioned: "In which way is Jesus like Moses?" The answer was: "In the first place Moses was a JEW and Jesus was also a JEW; secondly, Moses was a PROPHET and Jesus was also a PROPHET - therefore Jesus is like Moses and that is exactly what God had foretold Moses - "SOOS JY IS". "Can you think of any other similarities between Moses and Jesus?" I asked. The dominee said that he could not think of any. I replied: "If these are the only two criteria for discovering a candidate for this prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18, then in that case the criteria could fit any one of the following Biblica l personages after Moses:- Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist etc., because they were also ALL Jews as well as Prophets. Why should we not apply this prophency to any one of these prophets, and why only to Jesus? Why should we make fish of one and fowl of anoth er?" The dominee had no reply. I continued: "You see, my conclusions are that Jesus is most unlike Moses, and if I am wrong I would like you to correct me." Three Unlikes So staying, I reasoned with him: "In the FIRST place Jesus is not like Moses, because, according to you - 'JESUS IS A GOD', but Moses is not God. Is this true?" He said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore, Jesus is not like Moses! SECONDLY, according to you - 'JESUS DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD', but Mose s did not have to die for the sins of the world. Is this true?" He again said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses! THIRDLY, according to you - 'JESUS WENT TO HELL FOR THREE DAYS', but Moses did not have to go there. Is this true?" He answered meekly: "Y-e-s." I concluded: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses!" "But dominee," I continued: "these are not hard facts, solid facts, they are mere matters of belief over which the little ones can stumble and fall. Let us discuss something very simple, very easy that if your little ones are called in to hear the discussion, would have no difficulty in following it, shall we?" The dominee was quiet happy at the suggestion. Father and Mother (1) "Moses had a father and a mother. Muhummed also had a father and a mother. But Jesus had only a mother, and no human father. Is this true?" He said: "Yes." I said: "DAAROM IS JESUS NIE SOOS MOSES NIE, MAAR MUHUMMED IS SOOS MOSES!" Meaning: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is lik e Moses!" (By now the reader will realise that I was using the Afrikaans language only for practice purposes. I shall discontinue its use in this narration). Miraculous Birth (2) "Moses and Muhummed were born in the normal, natural course, i.e. the physical association of man and woman; but Jesus was created by a special miracle. You will recall that we are told in the Gospel of St.Matthew 1:18".....BEFORE THEY CAME TOGETHER,(Joseph the Carpenter and Mary) SHE WAS FOUND WITH CHILD BY THE HOLY GHOST.' And St.Luke tells us that when the good news of the birth of a holy son was announded to her, Mary reasoned:'.......HOW SHALL THIS BE, SEEING I KNOW NOT A MAN? AND THE ANGEL ANSWERED AND SAID UNTO HER, THE HOLY GHOST SHALL COME UPON THEE, AND THE POWER OF THE HIGHEST SHALL OVERSHADOW THEE:......'(Luke 1:35). The Holy Qur'an confirms the miraculous birth of Jesus, in nobler and sublimer terms. In answer to her logical question: " O MY LORD! HOW SHALL I HAVE A SON WHEN NO MAN HATH TOUCHED ME? " The angel says in reply: "EVEN SO: ALLAH CREATETH WHAT HE WILLETH: WHEN HE HATH DECREED A PLAN, HE BUT SAITH TO IT "BE," AND IT IS " (9) (HOLY QUR'AN, 3:47). It is not necessary for God to plant a seed in man or animal. He merely wills it and it comes into being. This is the Muslim conception of the of birth of Jesus. (When I compared the Qur'an and the Biblical versions of the birth of Jesus to the head of the Bible Society in our largest City, and when I enquired: "Which version would you prefer to give your daughter, the QUR'ANIC version or the BIBLICAL version?" The man bowed his head and answered: "The Qur'anic.") In short, I said to the dominee: "Is it true that Jesus was born miraculously as against the natural birth of Moses and Muhummed?"He replied proudly:"Yes!" I said:"Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses. And God says to Moses in the Book of Deuteronomy 18:18 "LIKE UNTO THEE" (Like You, Like Moses) and Muhummed is like Moses." Marriage Ties (3) "Moses and Muhummed married and begat children, but Jesus remained a bachelor all his life. Is this true?" The dominee said: "Yes." I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses." Jesus Rejected by his People (3) "Moses and Muhummed were accepted as prophets by their people in their very lifetime. No doubt the Jews gave endless trouble to Moses and they murmured in the wilderness, but as a nation, they acknowledged that Moses was a Messenger of God sent to them. The Arabs too made Muhummed's life imposs ible. He suffered very badly at their hands. After 13 years of preaching in Mecca, he had to emigrate from the city of his birth. But before his demise, the Arab nation as a whole accepted him as the Messenger of Allah. But according to the Bible: 'He (Jesus) CAME UNTO HIS OWN, BUT HIS OWN RECEIVED HIM NOT.' (John 1:11). And even today, ofter two thousand years, his people- the Jews, as a whole, have rejeted him. Is this true?" The dominee said: "Yes." I said: "THEREFORE JESUS IS NOT LIKE MOSES, BUT MUHUMMED IS LIKE MOSES." "Other-Wordly" Kingdom (5) "Moses and Muhummed were prophets as well as kings. A prophet means a man who receives Divine Revelation for the Guidance of Man and this Guidance he conveys to God's creatures as received without any addition or deletion. A king is a person who has the power of life and death over his people. It is immaterial whether the person wears a crown or not, or whether he was ever addressed as king or monarch: if the man has the prerogative of inflicting capital punishment - HE IS A KING. Moses possessed such a power. Do you remember the Israelite who was found picking up firewood on Sabbath Day , and Moses had him stoned to death? (Numbers- 15:13). There are other crimes also mentioned in the Bible for which capital punishment was inflicted on the Jews at the behest of Moses. Muhummed too, had the power of life and death over his people. There are instances in the Bible of persons who wer e given gift of prophecy only, but they were not in a position to implement their directives. Some of these holy men of God who were helpless in the face of stubborn rejection of their mesage, were the prophets lot, Jonah, Daniel, Ezra, and John the Baptist. They could only deliver the message, but could not enforce the Law. The Holy Prophet Jesus (Peace b.u.h) also belonged to this category. The Christian Gospel clearly confirms this: when Jesus was dragged before the Roman Governor, Pontius Pilate, Charged for sedition, Jesus made a convincing point in his defence to refute the false charg e: JESUS ANSWERED, "MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD': IF MY KINGDOM WERE OF THIS WORLD, THEN WOULD MY SERVANTS FIGHT, THAT I SHOULD NOT BE DELIVERED TO THE JEWS; BUT NOW IS MY KINGDOM NOT FROM HENCE"(John 18:36) This convinced Pilate (A Pagan) that though Jesus might not be in full possessio n of his mental faculty, he did not strike him as being a danger to his rule. Jesus claimed a spiritual Kingdom only; in other words he only claimed to be a Prophet. Is this true?" The dominee answered:"Yes." I said:"Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses." No New Laws (6) "Moses and Muhummed brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Moses not only gave the Ten Commandments to the Israelites, but a very comprehensive ceremonial law for the guidance of his people. Muhummed comes to a people steeped in barbarism and ignorance. They married their step-m others; they buried their daughters alive; drunkenness, adultery, idolatry, and gambling were the order of the day. Gibbon describe the Arabs before Islam in his "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire", THE HUMAN BRUTE, ALMOST WITHOUT SENSE, IS POORLY DISTINGUISHED FROM THE REST OF THE ANIMAL CREATI ON.' There was hardly anything to distinguish between the "man" and the "animal" of the time; they were animals in human form. "From this abject barbarism, Muhummed elevated them, in the words of Thomas Carlysle, 'into torch-bearers of light and learning.' 'TO THE ARAB NATION IT WAS AS A BIRTH FROM DARKNESS INTO LIGHT. ARABIA FIRST BECAME ALIVE BY MEANS OF IT. A POOR SHEPHERD PEOPLE, ROAMING UNNOTICED IN ITS DESERTS SINCE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD. SEE, THE UNNOTICED BECOMES WORLD NOTABLE, THE SMALL HAS GROWN WORLD-GREAT. WITHIN ONE CENTURY AFTERWARDS ARABIA WAS AT GRANADA ON ONE HAND AND AT DELHI ON THE OTHER. GLANCING IN VALOUR AND SPLENDOUR, AND THE LIGHT OF GENIUS, ARABIA SHINES OVER A GREA SECTION OF THE WORLD. ...' The fact is that Muhummed gave his people a Law and Order they never had before. "As regards Jesus, when the Jews felt suspicious of him that he might be an imposter with designs to pervert their teachings, Jesus took pains to assure them that he had not come with a new religion - no new laws and no new regulations. I quote his own words: 'THINK NOT THAT IAM COME TO DESTROY THE LAW, OR THE PROPHETS: IAM NOT COME TO DESTROY, BUT TO FULFIL. FOR VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, ONE JOT OR ONE TITLE SHALL IN NO WISE PASS FROM THE LAW, TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'(Mathew 5:17-18). In other words he had not come with any new laws or regulation he came only to fulfil the old law. This what he gave the Jews to understand- unless he was speaking with the tongue in his cheek trying to bluff the Jews into accepting him as a man of God and by subterfuge trying to ram a new religion down their throats. No! This Messenger of God would never resort to such fo ul means to subvert the Religion of God. He himself fulfilled the laws. He observed the commandments of Moses, and he respected the Sabbath. At no time did a single Jew point a finger at him to say, 'why don't you fast' or 'why don't you wash your hands before you break bread',which charges they al wasy levied against his disciples, but never against Jesus. This is because as a good Jew he honoured the laws of the prophets who preceded him. In short, he had created no new religion and had brought no new law like Moses and Muhummed. Is this true?" I asked the dominee, and he answered: "Yes." I said:"Therefore, Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses." How they Departed (7) "Both Moses and Muhummed died natural deaths, but according to Christianity, Jesus was violently killed on the cross.(10) Is this true?" The dominee said: "Yes." I averred: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses." Heavenly Abode (8) "Moses and Muhummed both lie buried in earth, but according to you, Jesus in heaven. Is this true?" The dominee agreed. I said: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses." Ishmael The First Born Since the dominee was helplessly agreeing with every point, I said, "Dominee, so far what I have done is to prove only one point out of the whole prophecy- that is proving the phrase 'LIKE UNTO THEE' - 'Like You' 'Like Moses'. The Prophecy is much more than this single phrase which reads as follows : "I WILL RAISE THEM UP A PROPHET FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN LIKE UNTO THEE......." The emphasis is on the words- "From among their brethren." Moses and his people, the Jews, are here addressed as a racial entity, and as such their 'brethren' would undoubtedly be the arabs. You see, the Holy Bible s peaks of Abraham as the "Friend of God". Abraham had two wives - Sarah and Hagar. Hagar bore Abraham a son - HIS FIRST-BORN- '......And Abraham(11) called HIS SON'S name, which Hagar bare Ishmael.' (Genesis 16:15). 'And Abraham took Ishmael HIS SON......" (Genesis 17:23). 'And Ishmael HIS SON was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.'(Genesis 17:25). Up to the age of THIRTEEN Ishmael was the ONLY son and sed of Abraham, when the covenant was ratified between God and Abraham. God grants Abraham another son through Sarah, named Isaac, wh o was very much the junior to his brother Ishmael. Arabs and Jews If Ishmael and Isaac are the sons of the same father Abraham, then they are brothers. And so the children of the one are the BRETHREN of the children of the other. The children of Isaac are the Jews and the Children of Ishmael are the Arabs - so they are BRETHREN to one another. The Bible affirms, 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) SHALL DWELL IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.' (Genesis 16:12). 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) DIED IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.(Genesis 25:18). The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites. In like manner Muhummed is from among the brethren of the Israeli tes beause he was a descendant of Ishamel the son of Abraham. This exactly as the prophecy has it- 'FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN'.(Deut.18:18). There the prophecy distinctly mentions that the coming prophet who would be like Moses, must arise NOT from the 'children of Israel' or from 'among the mselves', but from among their brethren. MUHUMMED THEREFORE WAS FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN! Words in the Mouth "The prophecy proceeds further:'.......AND I WILL PUT MY WORDS INTO HIS MOUTH.......' What does it mean when it is said 'I will put my words in your mouth'? You see, when I asked you (the dominee) to open Deuteronomy chapter 18, verse 18, at the beginning, and if I had asked you to read, and if you had read: would I be putting my words into your mouth?" The dominee answered: "No." "But," I continued: "If I were to teach you a language like Arabic about which you have no knowledge, and if I asked you to read or repeat after me what I utter i.e.: "SAY: HE IS ALLAH THE ONE AND ONLY; ALLAH, THE ETERNAL ABSOLUTE; HE BEGETTETH NOT, NOR IS HE BEGOTTEN: AND THERE IS NONE LIKE UNTO HIM. (Holy Qur'an 112:1-4)( I read them in Arabic ) Would I not be putting these unheard words of a foreign tongue which you utter, into your mouth?" The dominee agreed that it was indeed so. In an identical manner, I said, the words of the Holy Qur'an, the Revelation vouchsafed by the Almighty God to Muhummed, were revealed. History tells us that Muhummed was forty years of age. He was in a cave some three miles north of the City of Mecca. It was the 27th night of the Muslim month of Ramadaan. In the cave the Archangel Gabriel commands him in his mother tongue:'IQRA' which means READ! or PROCLAIM! or RECITE! Muhummed w as terrified and in his bewilderment replied that he was not NOT LEARNED! The angel commands him a second time with the same result. For the third time the angel continues. Now Muhummed, grasps, that what was required of him was to repeat! to rehearse! And he repeats the words as they were put into his mouth: "READ! IN THE NAME OF THE LORD AND CHERISHER, WHO CREATED- CREATED MAN, FROM A (MERE) CLOT OF CONGEALED BLOOD: READ! AND THY LORD IS MOST BOUNTIFUL,- HE WHO TAUGHT (THE USE OF) THE PEN, TAUGHT MAN THAT WHICH HE KNEW NOT". (Holy Qur'an 96:1-5) These are the first five verses which were revealed to Muhummed which now occupy the beginning of the 96th chapter of the Holy Qur'an. The Faithful Witness Immediately the angel had departed, Muhummed rushed to his home. Terrified and sweating all over he asked his beloved wife Khadija to 'cover him up!' He lay down, and she watched by him. When he had regained his composure, he explained to her what he had seen and heard. She assured him of her faith in him and that Allah would not allow any terrible thing to happen to him. Are these the confessions of an imposter? Would imposters confess that when an angel of the Lord confronts them with a Message from on High, they get fear-stricken, terrified, and sweating all over, run home to their wives? Any critic can see that his reactions and confessions are that of an honest, sincere man, the man of Truth- 'AL-AMIN' - THE Honest, the Upright, the Truthful. During the next twenty-three years of his prophetic life, words were 'Put into his mouth', and he uttered them. They made an indeliable imp ression on his heart and mind: and as the volume of the Sacred Scripture (Holy Qur'an) grew, they were recorded on palm-leaf libre, on skins and on the shoulder-blades of animals; and in the hearts of his devoted disciples. Before his demise these words were arranged according to his instructions i n the order in which we find them to-day in the Holy Qurann. The words (revelation) were actually put into his mouth, exactly as foretold in the prophecy under discusiion: 'AND I WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH.'(Deut. 18:18). Un-lettered Prophet Muhummed's experience in the cave of Hira, later to be known as Jabal-un Noor - The Mountain of Light, and his response to that first Revelation is the exact fulfilment of another Biblical Prophecy. In the Book of Isaish. Chapter 29, verse 12, we read: "AND THE BOOK" (al-Kitaab,al-Quran the 'Readin g', the 'Recitation') "IS DELIVERED TO HIM THAT IS NOT LEARNED," (Isaiah 29:12) "THE UNLETTERED PROPHET " (Holy Qur'an 7:158) and the biblical verse continues : "SAYING, READ THIS, I PRAY THEE:" (the words "I pray thee", are not in the Hebrew manuscripts; compare with the Roman Cathol ics' "Douay Version and also with the "Revised Standard Versions") "AND HE SAITH, I AM NOT LEARNED." ("I am not learned." is the exact translation of the Arabic words which Muhummed uttered twice to the Holy Ghose - the Archangel Gabriel, when he was commanded : "READ!"). Let me quote the verse in full without a break as found in the "King James Version," or the "Authorised version" as it is more popularly know "AND THE BOOK IS DELIVERED TO HIM THAT IS NOT LEARNED, SAYING, READ THIS I PRAY THEE: AND HE SAITH, I AM NOT LEARNED." (Isaiah 29:12). Important note : It may be noted that there were no Arabic Bibles(12) in existence in the 6th Century of the Christian Era when Muhummed lived and preachedl Besides, he was absolutely unlettered and unlearned. No human had ever taught him a word. His teacher was his Creator: "HE DOES NOT SPEAK (AUGHT), OF (HIS OWN) DESIRE: IT IS NO LESS THAN INSPIRATION SENT DOWN TO HIM: HE WAS TAUGHT BY ONE MIGHTY IN POWER," (Holy Qur'an 53:3-5). Without any human learning, 'he put to shame the wisdom of the learned'. Grave Warning "See!" I told the dominee, "how the prophecies fit Muhummed like a glove. We do not have to stretch prophecies to justify their fulfilment in Muhummed." The dominee replied, "All your expositions sound very well, but they are of no real consequence, because we Christians have Jesus Christ the "incarnate" God, who has redeemed us from the Bondage of Sin!" I asked, "Not important?" God didn't think so! He went to a great deal of trouble to have His warnings recorded. God knew that there would be people like you who will flippantly, light-heartedly discount his words, so he followed up Deuteronomy 18:18 with a dire warning: "AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS, " (it is going to happen) "THAT WHOSOEVER WILL NOT HEARKEN UNTO MY WORDS WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK IN MY NAME, I WILL REQUIRE IT OF HIM. (in the Catholic Bible the ending words are - "I will be the revenger", I will take vengeance from him - I will take revenge!) "Does not this terrify you? God Almighty is threathening revenge! We shake in our pants if some hoodlum threathens us, yet you have no fear of God's warning?" "Miracle of Miracles! in the verse 19 of Deuteronomy chapter 18, we have a further fulfilment of the prophecy in Muhummed! Note the words-'.....MY WORDS WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK IN MY NAME," In whose name is Muhummed speaking?" I opened Yusuf Ali's translation of the Holy Qur'an, at chapter 114- 'Sura Nas', or Mankind - the last chapter, and showed him the formula at the head of the charpter: and the meaning: "IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL." And the heading of chapter 113: and the meaning: "IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL". And every chapter downwards 112 , 111, 110.......was the same formula and the same meaning on every page, because the end SURAS (chapters) are short and take about a page each. "And what did the prophecy demand?' ......WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK IN MY NAME and in whose name does Muhummed speak?'IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS MOST MERCIFUL.' The Prophecy is being fulfilled in Muhummed to the letter "Every chapter of the Holy Qur'an except the 9th begin with the formula: IN TH E NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL.' The Muslim begins his every lawful act with the Holy formula. But the Christian begins: "In the name of the Father, son and holy ghost.'"(13) Concerning Deuteronomy chapter eighteen, I have given you more than 15 reasons as to how this prophecy refers to Muhummed and NOT to Jesus. Baptist Contradicts Jesus In New Testament times, we find that the Jews were still expecting the fulfilment of the prophecy of 'ONE LIKE MOSES', refer John 1:19-25. When Jesus claimed to be the Messiah of the Jews,the Jews began to enquire as to where was Elias? The Jews had a parallel prophecy that before the coming of the Messiah, Elias must come first in his second coming. Jesus confirms this Jewish belief: ".......ELIAS TRULY SHALL FIRST COME, AND RESTORE ALL THINGS. BUT I SAY UNTO YOU, THAT ELIAS IS COME ALREADY, AND THEY KNEW HIM NOT,...THEN THE DISCIPLES UNDERSTOOD THAT HE SPAKE UNTO THEM OF JOHN THE BAPTIST."(Matthew 17:11-13). According to the New Testament the Jews were not the ones to s wallow the words of any would-be Messiah. In their investigations they underwent intense difficulties in order to find their true Messiah. And this the Gospel of John confirms: "AND THIS IS THE RECORD OF JOHN,"(the Baptist) "WHEN THE JEWS SENT PRIESTS AND LEVITES FROM JERUSALEM TO ASK HIM, WHO ART THOU? AND HE CONFESSED AND DENIED NOT; BUT CONFESSED, I AM NOT THE CHRIST." (This was only natural because there can't be two Messiahs (14) at the same time. If Jesus was the Christ then John couldn't be the Christ!) "AND THEY ASKED HIM, WHAT THEN? ART THOU ELIAS? AND HE SAITH, I AM NOT." (Here Joh n the Baptist contradicts Jesus! Jesus says that John is "Elias" and John denies that he is what Jesus ascribes him to be. One of the TWO (Jesus or John), God forbid!, is difinitely not speaking the TRUTH! On the testimony of Jesus himself, John the Baptist was the greatest of the Israelite prophet s:"VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, AMOUNG THEM THAT ARE BORN OF WOMEN THERE HAS NOT RISENA GREATER THAN JOHN THE BAPTIST:... (Matthew 11:11). We Muslims know John the Baptist as Hazrut YAHYAA Alai-his-salaam (peace be upon him). We revere him as a true prophet of Allah. The Holy Prophet Jesus known to us as Hazrut ISAA Alai-his-salaam (peace be upon him), is also esteemed as one of the mightiest messenger of the Almighty. How can we Musl ims impute lies to either of them? We leave this problem between Jesus and John for the Christians to solve, for their "sacred scriptures abound in discrepancies which they have been glossing over as the "dark sayings of Jesus"(15). We Muslims are really interested in the last questions posed to Jo hn the Baptist by the Jewish elite- "ART THOU THAT PROPHET? AND HE ANSWERED, NO."(John 1:21) Three Questions! Please note that three different and distinct questions were posed to John the Baptist and to which he gave three emphatic "NO'S" as answers. To recapitulate:- 1) ART THOU THE CHRIST? 2) ART THOU ELIAS? 3) ART THOU THAT PROPHET? But the learned men of Christendom somehow only see two questions implied here. To make doubly clear that the Jews definitely had T-H-R-E-E separate prophecies in their minds when they were interogating John the Baptist, let us read the remonstrance of the Jews in the verses following: "AND THEY ASKED HIM, AND SAID UNTO HIM, WHEY BAPTIZEST THOU THEN, IF THOU BE a) NOT THAT CHRIST, b) NOR ELIAS, c) NEITHER THAT PROPHET?" (John 1:25) The Jews were waiting for the fulfilment of THREE distinct prophecies: One, the coming of CHRIST. Two the coming of ELIAS, and Three, the coming of THAT PROPHET. "That Prophet" If we look up any Bible which has a concordance or cross-references, the we will find in the marginal note where the words "the Prophet", or "that Prophet" occur in John 1:25, that these words refer to the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:15 and 18. And that 'that prophet' - 'the prophet like Moses' - "L IKE UNTO THEE", we have proved through overwhelming evidence that he was MUHUMMED and not Jesus! We Muslims are not denying that Jesus was the "Messiah", which word is translated as "Christ".(16) We are not contesting the "thousand and one prophecies" which the Christians claim abound in the Old Testament foretelling the coming of the Messiah. What we say is that Deuteronomy 18:18 does NOT ref er to Jesus Christ but it is an explicit prophecy about the Holy Prophet MUHUMMED!" The dominee, very politely parted with me by saying that it was a very interesting discussion and he would like me very much to come one day and address his congregation on the subject. A decade and half has passed since then but I am still awaiting that privilege. I believe the dominee was sincere when he made the offer, but prejudices die hard and who would like to loose his sheep? The Acid Test To the lambs of Christ I say, why not apply that acid test which the Master himself wanted you to apply to any would be claimant to prophethood? He had said: "BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM. DO MEN GATHER GRAPES FROM THE THORNS, OR FIGS FROM THE THISTLES? EVERY GOOD TREE WILL BEAR GOOD FRUIT AN D EVERY EVIL TREE WILL BEAR EVIL FRUIT....BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM. (Matthew 7:16-20). Why are you afraid to apply this test to the teachings of Muhummed? You will find in the Last Testament of God - the Holy Qur'an - the true fulfilment of the teachings of Moses and Jesus which will bring to the world the much-needed peace and happiness. "IF A MAN LIKE MOHAMED WERE TO ASSUME THE DIC TATORSHIP OF THE MODERN WORLD, HE WOULD SUCCEED IN SOLVING ITS PROBLEMS THAT WOULD BRING IT THE MUCH NEEDED PEACE AND HAPPINESS."(George Bernard Shaw) The Greatest! The Weekly Newsmagazine "TIME" dated July 15, 1974, carried a selection of opinions by various historians, writers, military men, businessmen and others on the subject: "Who Were History's Great Leaders?" Some said that it was Hitler; others said-Gandhi, Buddha, Lincoln and the like. But Jules Mass erman, a United States psychoanalyst put the standards straight by giving the correct criteria wherewith to judge. He said: "LEADERS MUST FULFIL THREE FUNCTIONS:- (1) Provide for the well-being of the led, (2) Provide a social organization in which people feel relatively secure and (3) Provide them with one set of beliefs." With the above three criteria he searches history and analyses - Hitler, Pasteur, Gaesar, Moses, Confucius and the lot, and ultimately concludes: "PEOPLE LIKE PASTEUR AND SALK ARE LEADERS IN THE FIRST SENSE. PEOPLE LIKE GANDHI AND CONFUCIUS, ON ONE HAND, AND ALEXANDER, CAESAR AND HITLER ON THE OTHER, ARE LEADERS IN THE SECOND AND PERHAPS THE THIRD SENSE. JESUS AND BUDDHA BELONG IN THE THIRD CATEGORY ALONE. PERHAPS THE GREATEST LEADER OF ALL TIMES WAS MOHAMMED, WHO COMBINED ALL THREE FUNCTIONS. To a lesser degree, MOSES DID THE SAME." According to the objective standards set by the Professor of the Chicago University, whome I believe to be Jewish, - JESUS and BUDDHA are now - here in the picture of the "Great Leaders of Mankind", but by a queer coincidence groups Moses and Muhummed together thus adding further weight to the argu ment that JESUS is not like MOSES, but MUHUMMED is like MOSES: Deut.18:18 "LIKE UNTO THEE" - Like MOSES! In conclusion, I end with a quotation of a Christian Reverend the commentator of the Bible, followed by that of his Master: "THE ULTIMATE CRITERION OF A TRUE PROPHET IS THE MORAL CHARACTER OF HIS TEACHING."(Prof.Dummelow.) "BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM." (Jesus Christ) A concluding suggestion : Come let us reason together ! SAY:"O PEOPLE OF THE BOOK! COME TO COMMON TERMS AS BETWEEN US AND YOU: THAT WE WORSHIP NONE BUT GOD; THAT WE ASSOCIATE NO PARTNERS WITH HIM; THAT WE ERECT NOT, FROM AMONG OURSELVES, LORDS AND PATRONS OTHER THAN GOD." IF THEN THEY TURN BACK, SAY:"BEAR WITNESS THAT WE (AT LEAST) ARE MUSLIMS (BOWING TO GOD'S WILL)." (Holy Qur'an 3:64) "PEOPLE OF THE BOOK" is the respectful title given to the Jews and the Christians in the Holy Qur'an. The Muslims is here commanded to invite - "O People of the Book!" - O Learned People! O People who claim to be the recipients of Divine Revelation, of a Holy Scripture; let us gather together onto a common platform - "that we worship none but God", because none but God is worthy of worship, not because "THE LORD THY GOD IS A JEALOUS GOD VISITING THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHERS UPON THE CHILDREN UNTO THE THIRD AND FOURTH GENERATION OF THEM THAT HATE ME."(Exodus 20:25). But because He is ou r Lord and Cherisher, our Sustainer and Evolver, worthy of all praise, prayer and devotion. In the abstract the Jews and the Christians would agree to all the three propositions contained in this Qur'anic verse. In practice they fail. Apart from doctrinal lapses from the unity of the One True God, (ALLAH_ Subha-nahu wa ta-ala) there is the question of a consecrated Priesthood (among the J ews it was hereditary also), as if a mere human being - Cohe or Pope, or Priest, or Brahuman, - could claim superiority apart from his learning and the purity of his life, or could stand between man and God in some special sense. ISLAM DOES NOT RECOGNISE PRIESTHOOD! The Creed of Islam is given to us here in a nutshell from Holy Qur'an: Say ye: "We believe in Allah, And the revelation given to us, And to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, And that given to Moses and Jesus And that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord: We make no difference Between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)." (Holy Qur'an 2:136). The Muslim position is clear. The Muslim does not claim to have a religion peculiar to himself. Islam is not a sect or an ethnic religion. In its view all Religion is one, for the Truth is one. IT WAS THE SAME RELIGION PREACHED BY ALL THE EARLIER PROPHETS. (Holy Qur'an 42:13). It was the truth taug ht by all the inspired Books. In essence it amounts to a consciousness of the Will and Plan of God and a joyful submission to that Will and Plan. IF ANYONE WANTS A RELIGION OTHER THAN THAT, HE IS FALSE TO HIS OWN NATURE, AS HE IS FALSE TO GOD'S WILL AND PLAN. Such a one cannot expect guidance, for he has deliberately renounced guidance.
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| | Unrecorded Date Did Jesus and Isaiah PROPHESY the coming of MUHAMMAD? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note: The following is written in a language that is intended as an `Invitation' (Daw'ah) to Christians, who have confused the concept of "Spirit of Truth" (a Paraclete) with "Holy Spirit". Moses and Isaiah PROPHESIED the coming of JESUS. Did Jesus and Isaiah PROPHESY the coming of MUHAMMAD? To understand the prophecies made by Jesus on the subject, one has to begin with the First Epistle of John, Chapter 2, Verse 1. Here, Jesus Christ is called a "Paraclete" (Parakletos, Advocate, Comforter, Helper) by apostle John. The same term "Paraclete" is used by the apostle in his Gospel, in connection with a portentous prophecy made by Jesus Christ, before the end of his ministry upon this earth, for the coming of "another Paraclete". Prophet Moses also made a similar prophecy, before the end of his ministry, for the coming of his successor. Jesus Christ declared; "And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Paraclete, that he may abide with you into the age (to come)." John 14:16 Note: We often read the verse ending as; "with you for ever". However; "into the age" is the literal translation of the Greek phrase; `eis ton aiona', used by John. These two verses by John clearly demonstrate that Jesus Christ, while speaking of "another Paraclete", was speaking of the coming of "another male figure" like himself, some time in the future, after his departure. The passage quoted below also confirms that the original concept among the noted Christian scholars and populace, for the "Paraclete" was for the coming of a "male figure", but that concept was later confused with the "Holy Spirit". Here is an extract from the world renowned and distinguished Anchor Bible Volume 29A: "The word parakletos is peculiar in the NT to the Johnannine literature. In 1John ii1 Jesus is a parakletos (not a title), serving as a heavenly intercessor with the Father. ...Christian tradition has identified this figure (Paraclete) as the Holy Spirit, but scholars like Spitta, Delafosse, Windisch, Sasse, Butlmann and Betz have doubted whether this identification is true to the original picture and have suggested that the Paraclete was once an independent salvific figure, later confused with the Holy Spirit." (page 1135). The Bible tells us that Jesus Christ, besides being a "Messiah" was also a prophet like Moses, by his own admission. Please see John 5:46 and 9:17. Hence to say that the coming of "another Paraclete" was similar to the coming of "another Prophet" like Jesus and Moses, would not be inaccurate. OTOH, the concept of "Holy Spirit" is unequivocally negated by the following verse: "But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Paraclete shall not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you." John 16:7 This verse clearly tells us that the coming of the Paraclete was subject to the departure of Jesus. Whereas, the "Holy Spirit" was already present. It was in existence since the day of the Creation and was hovering upon the surface of the earth (Genesis 1:2). It was also present with the prophets of the Old Testament. The "Holy Spirit" happened to be present at River Jordan when Jesus Christ was being Baptised by John the Baptist, in the early part of his ministry. So, how could Jesus say; "but if I go, I will send Holy Spirit"? "When the Paraclete comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of Truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness of me." John 15:26 This above verse clears the confusion. The Paraclete is called the "Spirit of Truth" and not the "Holy Spirit". These are two separate terms and two independent entities. The first takes the pronoun "he" being a male figure, whereas, the second one takes the pronoun "it". "But the Paraclete, the Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John 14:26 Note: 1. In the older MSS, Codex Syriacus discovered in 1812 on Mount Sinai by Mrs.Agnes S. Lewis (and Mrs. Bensley), the text of 14:26 reads; "Paraclete, the Spirit"; and not "Paraclete, the Holy Spirit". "The Spirit" is a reference to "the Spirit of Truth" as in 15:26. 2. The word spirit, Greek. `pneu'ma', is of neutral gender and takes pronoun "it". Whereas, in almost all the verses referring to Paraclete quoted above and below, the pronoun used is "he". 3. In 1 John 4:6, the terms "the spirit of truth" and "the spirit of error" are used for the human beings. 4. History records that prophet Muhammad was known for his Truth and Honesty, long before he received the Revelations. Jesus Christ did indicate what the Paraclete to come will do in his time. Did prophet Muhammad do those things? Let's examine; 1. "But when he, the Spirit of Truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own initiative, but whatever he hears, he will speak..." Jn.16:13 Note: The Quran is a compilation of the "Divine Revelations" that were received by prophet Muhammad, over a period of 23 years, through the arch angel Gabriel. The prophet used to recite whatever he used to hear. Prophet's companions used to write down whatever was recited. The Quran does not contain the writings or teachings of or by Muhammad, as often mentioned by some misinformed authors. 2. "He shall glorify me." John 16:14 Note: The Quran glorifies the birth of Jesus through Virgin Mary. The Quran also confirms, Jesus was a Messiah; a Messenger of God; the Spirit from God; the Word of God and the Righteous Prophet. 3. "He shall take mine and shall disclose it to you." Jn.16:14 Note: Muhammad did declare himself a Messenger of God like Abraham, Moses and Jesus. 4. "He will teach you all things." John 14:26 Note: The Quran teaches a way of life. It guides mankind, how to live a pious life socially, politically and spiritually. 5. "He will bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." Jn.14:26 Note: The Quran speaks about the teaching of the righteous Jesus and even quotes him. 6. "He will bear witness of me" John 15:26 Note: The Quran attests the miracles performed by Jesus the Messiah. It also mentions one astonishing miracle performed by Jesus that the Gospel writers have not recorded. The Quran acknowledges that these miracles and signs were performed with the leave of Allah, by His righteous Servant and Messiah Jesus. The same is also attested in the Book of Acts 2:22; 3:13 (NASB). Prophet Isaiah is considered to be one of the major prophets of the Old Testament. In the Book of Isaiah there are several prophecies about the coming of the Messiah. In chapter 42, Isaiah begins with a prophecy for the coming of prophet Jesus. After verse number nine, God declares through Isaiah, the "new things" that are to "spring forth" in the Land of Kedar. In the Bible there is only one personality called Kedar. He was the grandson of prophet Abraham, through his son Ishmael (see Gen.25:13). Kedar's descendants had settled in Paran (Syno-Arabian dessert). In the Rabbinic literature Arabia is called the "Land of Kedar". Prophet Muhammad was a descendant of Kedar. God declares through Isaiah; "Behold, the former things are come to pass, and the new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them. `Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth'. Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voices, the villages that Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rock sing, let them shout from the top of the mountains. Let them give glory unto the Lord, and declare His praise in the inlands." Chapter 42, Verses 9-12. God did reveal in the Land of Kedar, through prophet Muhammad - a direct descendant of Kedar, a "New Song" - The Qur'an (Koran). This happens to be the only Scripture to be revealed in the language of the Kedarites. The verses of the Qur'an are recited like a poem. Nearly 1.2 billion Muslims, residing all over the world, recite this "new song" and Glorify Allah, in their daily prayers, five times in a day. The initial Revelation came to prophet Muhammad in a cave of Mount Hira near the city of Mecca. There are several mountains near Mecca. During the annual Islamic Pilgrimage called "Hajj", Muslims from all over the world, assemble in Mecca and shout Glory to the Lord from the top of Mount Arafat. The pilgrims continuously give Glory to Allah on their ways, to and from Mecca. "The Lord shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies." Verse 13. In the Old Testament the God often speaks "I" will do this, or "I" have done this; whereas, He has chosen human beings like us, to do these jobs. (see 2 Samuel 12:7-12). Muhammad did go forth as a mighty prophet of Allah, did stir up jealousy among the most influential and dominating tribe of the pagan Arabs in Arabia. Finally with a war cry and roar, Muhammad did prevail upon the enemies of Lord - the idolaters, fulfilling the above prophecy. "I have long time holden my peace; I have been still, and refrained myself, now will I cry like a travailing woman; I will destroy and devour at once." Verse 14. The prophets that came before Muhammad had all tried with peaceful missions. But, the concept of sharing God's Glory continued to surface again and again, in one way or other. It was with the war cry, through the descendants of Kedar (Arabs), these sinful practices were destroyed and devoured, inside and outside of Arabia. The spread of Islam was swift, wide spread and at once. "And I will bring the blind by a way they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known; I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things I will do unto them, and not forsake them." Verse 16. It is an undeniable fact that before the advent of Islam, the pagan Arabs were like the blinds. Their religious and social concepts were crooked. The revelation of this "new song" brought them out of that darkness. Earlier, God had not sent any prophet to these people. By sending Muhammad, God fulfilled His above promise and also the following promise to Abraham; "And also of the son of the bondwoman I will make a nation, because he is thy seed." Genesis 21:13. Please note the word "also" in above promise. The nations of Judaism and Christianity came out from the descendants of Abraham and Sarah. The nation of Islam came out from the descendants of Abraham and Hagar. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are three children of Abraham by God's Covenants with Abraham. This also fulfils the following prophecy by Jesus; "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of Truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth; for he shall not speak of himself; but what soever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you thing to come." John 16:13 For further details about "the Paraclete" and "the Spirit of Truth" please see Section 1 of this article. "They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images; they say to the molten images, `Ye are our gods.'" Isaiah 42 Verse 17. History records that Prophet Muhammad did put the pagan idolaters to great shame when he demolished before them, their 365 idols that were installed in Ka'bah (Mecca), the most respected place of pilgrimage in the whole of Arabia. Today, Ka'bah is the Grand Mosque of Islam. Muslims from all over the world face towards Ka'bah while reciting their daily ritual prayers. http://www.islamworld.net/
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| | Unrecorded Date Xirsi. well-done. Father micheals. Been baa laguugu sheekeeyey ee diintaadii hore baro.
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| | Unrecorded Date Bahir You seem to be a clever man, can you tell me if my facts about Mohammed are correct? I am here for clarification of issues I don't fully understand. Unless we focus on one topic at a time, there is no point talking in a chaotic manner just bringing up anything that comes to mind.
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| | Unrecorded Date Father Michael’s I Just read your final remark which goes "during his lifetime Mohammed founded a state and a worldwide religion that today numbers over 700 million Muslims and provides the basis for Arab unity". Your final remark clarifies your intention, Islam is actually the basis for the unity of human being as well as Jinn. Your figures are simply wrong too, Muslims are well above Billion Muwaxids, and Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world while Christianity is in decline. Did you Father Michael’s, ask yourself why? because, father Michael’s Islam is the only true monotheistic religion and human being are monotheists by nature.
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| | Unrecorded Date to Michals, you said"While continuing as a merchant, Mohammed became increasingly concerned about the polytheism and superstion of the Meccans and other Arabs, some of whom worshipped idols. Also at that time, in S Arabia, the Jewish religion and chritianity flourished in some communities. Becoming interested in the Bible and the books of the Jews, he grew familiar with the teaching of Jesus Christ and his prophets, furthering his growing conviction that there was only one true God" where did you get the idea that he was interested in the bible and the books of the jews? here you are suggesting that our prophet learned your books and the jews books and then copied them to claim new relegion. Your books contained full of contradictions early on that anyone trying to learn from it would be more confused than gain any real knowlage. you said " Mohammed`s marriage liberated him from the unfortunate finacial circumstances of his childhood and made him finacially independent" here again you are applying the same standard as may be yourself or some people you know to our prophet. finantial gains?!!!!!!!!! you also said "It also caused him to reflect deeply about the inequalities in Mecca society, which he saw to be changing into a trade driven society with no place in it for the unfortunate" were you there mr michaels? were you inside muhammed's(pbuh)head when he was reflecting deeply? these kind of unsubstantiated statements we call it lies, what do you call it? you said " They were saved by the invetation from the people of Yathrib, who hopped Mohammed would arbitrate in the feuds that racked their community" the history tells us that the main reason the people of medina of yathrib invited the prophet and his campanion was the relegion that muhammed(pbuh) was preaching which felt could bring peace and unity to their community. when a group of Gazraj from yathrib met with the prophet in aqabah he invited them to islam and gave them the qur'an. they were the neibours of the jews in medina and they heard from them that they were expecting a prophet which is mentioned in their book "the taurah". the accepted islam and they went back to medina to invite people to islam. it was only after the people of medina accepted islam and invited the prophet to come to them and the prophet accepted after they asured that they have accepted islam fully and were willing to implement it fully. you said " died in june at the home of his favourite of nine wives, Aïahah," the prophet died at the room of aisha and not the home becouse there was only house several rooms and although aisha was his favourite he never gave her more things or more attention than others. MR MICHEALS YOUR WRITINGS ARE JUST SUPERFICIAL AND DOES NOT ADRESS THE SPRITUAL SIDE OF MUHAMMED'S (PBUH) LIFE. WE KNOW THE HISTORY OF OUR PROPHET MORE THAN YOU, SO INSTEAD OF CAMING HERE TO TELL US WHAT WE KNOW MORE THAN YOU, YOU SHOULD ASK THE LEARNED ONES AMONG OURSELVES IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION. BUT I SUSPECT THAT IS NOT YOUR INTENTION.
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| | Unrecorded Date ku muslimiinta, ninkan gaalka ah ee iska dhigaya in uu taariikhda nabigeena inoo sheegayo wuxuu qayb kale ku soo qoray siduu ugu dadaalayo siduu u gaalaysiin lahaa soomaalida wuxuu boga kale ku qoray: (I come to you in the name of our lord Jesus Christ and want to tell you that we Christians in Somalia, though a minority, are not going to rest but with vigour continue preaching our message of love to all until, slowly but surely, more and more are showing little or no allegiance to Islam and the next generations are born under the banner of Christ. Please remember to read your bible and pray for us to boldly face the Muslim intolerance and belligerency.) what a lier is this guy. this he writes in one page and he comes here to tell us the history of our prophet (pbuh). What a hypocriet.
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| | Unrecorded Date Father Michaels. First of all, a person who possesses the truth does not need to be an arrogant, for that reason I will not be an arrogant to you. Second, your brief history is from your missionary source not from an ISLAMIC point of view, and in that case I find loopholes in it. For example: "Becoming interested in the Bible and the books of the Jews, he grew familiar with the teaching of Jesus Christ and his prophets, furthering his growing conviction that there was only one true God." Is an indication and a hint that HE COPIED THE BIBLE and TORAH since he knew those books and DID NOT APPROVE of what HIS PEOPLE worshipped. So I can't approve of that. You guys always SNEAK IN little undetected TWISTS of your own to MISLEAD muslims. Third, I have seen many MISSIONARIES and know thier moves before say what they want. You said"Unless we focus on one topic at a time, there is no point talking in a chaotic manner just bringing up anything that comes to mind". AAAAAAH! I love this move, because we have nothing to lose AS MUSLIMS by discussing with OUR CHRISTIAN NEIGHBOURS. But as they say "FIRST THING FIRST" Let us discuss and CHOOSE this topic "ALLAH OR GOD" IN ENGLISH and if we agree everything else will be fine. Start WITH THE FIRST OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS:- "You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below." So what do you say MICHALES?. Can you discuss your worship of jesus and taking him as a god while JESUS peace be upon him taught you not to worship him?. 1- Jesus taught you that he was not co-equal with GOD "I go to the FATHER for the father is GREATER than I"jn 14:28. you see from this verse that JESUS is not co-equal That Allah is GREATER than HIM. Why not WORSHIP GOD the father instead Of the JUNIOR in your own BELIEFS?. 2- This is a clear ADDRESS to you Mr. Michaels FROM OUR PROPHET JESUS peace be upon him "Not everyone that says to me Lord, Lord , will the enter the kingdom of HEAVEN; but he who does the will of my father, who is in heaven."Mt 7:21 What do you say Mr.Michaels? Are those verses not in your bible or WE ARE JUST READING THEM WRONG?. Or may be YOU NEED THE PERMISSION OF THE CHURCH TO UNDERSTAND IT and you remain IGNORANT ABOUT THEM?. I will wait for your answers.
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| | Unrecorded Date Mr. Michaels: All dirty human behavior such as homosexuality are accepted ONLY in western countries. As a westerner, your God is is your pocket and your spirit is non-existence. So if you wanna save lives from hell, try to save your ass and that of your boyfriend. It is only in the Christian countries where young children and infants are assaulted sexually. So many churches are under investigation in Canada because the priests and big brothers used to rape small children in the recent history. Shame on you - As a father, how many small boys did you have sex with? The media is busy running after fathers like you! Are you going to make tomorrow's headlines? Laughing all the way to my bed....
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| | Unrecorded Date Mr. Michaels, Instead of trying to preach a Muslim, why don't you try to attract your people to churchs. How many churchs are turned into libraries or other social functions just because there are no people to pray in it, so, if you christians has seen that you were lying to each other and exposed yourselves, what do you expect of someone with a true religion and true faith. Brothers Hirsi and Bshir have given a valuable lesson, so why don't you open your eyes and look deeply to what you believe (The 3 gods in 1)(1+1+1=1)absurd. How could you be so blind. Save yourself Mr. Michaels
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| | Unrecorded Date Asalama Alaykum Muslims! Father Michaels, I said before and I will say it again -- lets read Isaiah 42! Then, try to re-read Muhammad's history! ;) ...or better yet, I should cast a spell and cast you back in time -- where people came around together in "conferences" to destroy the teachings of Jesus. HOWEVER, no one can destroy or organize God, now can they? Nah! Ask Pharaoh, the Assyrians, the Jews and Babylon -- God lives...and rises and always stands above men's wicked intentions. Truly, God's powerfulness was found with Mary and Aminah -- for BOTH brought...Messengers to the world -- when the world and THEIR own people were in dark and oppression and sin. A fatherless child borns to be a help and eye to a world where corruption and evil is dwelled like there is no tomorow. What happens when the Lord takes that someone back to him? the VICTIMS came back to oppress themselves. This is just history repeating itself; Israelites witness signs of God -- Miracles of unimaginably wonderful. YET, when God's Messenger turns away -- what do they do? THEY WORSHIP ANOTHER GOD!!! Time and time again -- God was very wonderful to them. He kept giving them good -- they kept messing it up...they kept getting HIT and then forgiven. God turns away from them -- and TURNS everyone to them. Exile -- just became a familiar path to them. Christians recieve a book from their Lord - they're finally purified. What do they do? They come back and MATCH their religion with pagan religion. They betray God(or so they think they do -- when they're ONLY betraying themselves) They ORGANIZE God into three beings -- "The Head, the Heart, and the Hog?" hahaha -- X-tians should REALLY learn Mithraism -- for they would understand all their freaky beliefs. Arabs are finally given a chance -- they become learned ones...God guides them into right path. A messenger -- for the first time -- is sent to them. WHAT do they do when his Lord takes him back? They turn around and corrupt his teachings -- they oppress his family and kill them all -- they ORGANIZE the religion of God. They go back RIGHT into idol-worship. ONLY the Arabs took millions of people with them -- unlike Jews...but so VERY like X-tians! Now -- didn't I give you a brief history of YOUR world? SO pathetic of yesterday and today's world? As God says, Man is ungrateful being! God doesn't just say things -- He knows what He is talking about! Peace - Ahmad!
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| | Unrecorded Date Ahmed said "Now -- didn't I give you a brief history of YOUR world?" And what "world" is Ahmed living in? And isn't Ahmed---with *his story*--really worst than the pagan Arabs, the Christians and the Jews who insulted our messenger Muhammad(saw)? Allah favored, protected, guided his future messenger Muhammad(saw) from any kind of SIN, let alone IDOL WORSHIP. Muhammad(saw) was always CLEAN from any SIN and Allah said about his messenger this—------> CALAA KHILIQIN CADIIM?
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| | Unrecorded Date Jazakalah Umar! :)
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| | Unrecorded Date Wa iyaakum, Ansaari. As you know, the hypocrites--like Ahmed--are always worst than the kufaaris.
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| | Unrecorded Date Asalama Alaykum Muslims! Umar, Soomaalidaa waxay tiraahdaa -- "ishaa u macalin ah!" My world -- is far better than HIS, for sure. I do NOT, in anyway, idolize anyone beside God anymore -- BLESSED be the Lord. I wish you and him the same! As for "my story" -- YES, my story always seems to hurt the idol-worshipers. "Jesus is NOT god but a human Messenger" hurts X-tians. "Muhammad is NOT god but a human Messenger" hurts Muslims. "God turned away from Israelites" hurts Jews. This is because TRUTH exceeds beyond falsehood -- and TRUTH stands clear from error. I swear, Umar, on the Holy Name of my Lord, hypocrites are those who say "we believe" but do not believe -- who dwell in the world of Satan...who give their salats, hajj, and other practices that are DEVOTED ONLY to God to mere human beings who cannot even HEAR them -- let alone appreciate their "works" -- who themselves are worrying about themselves in the Later day. Such people are worse than anything! Cursed be the hypcorites! AND, yes, bring your people...and lets pray that God's curse and wrath shall be upon the hypocrites, if you're truthful! And, Umar, this is what God says about his Messenger; "Wa maa Muxammadu ilaa Rasuulan"(Muhammad is no more than a Messenger; 3.144) "Wa maa arsalnaa min qablika min rasuulin...ilaa nuwxiya ileyhi inahu laa ilaha ilaa Anaa faacbuduunii”( Not a messenger did We send before thee without this inspiration sent by Us to him: that there is no god but I; therefore worship and serve Me. 21.25) “Wa qaaluu maali haadal Rasuuli ya`kulul dacaama wa yamshii fiil aswaaqi lowlaa unzila ileyhi malakun fayakuuna macahu nadiiraa”(And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him? 25.7)(MORE like you, eh, Umar? Wanting a Messenger to be more than human? heheeheh! TO YOU, he was “guarded” heheheheh...since birth! Oy Vey!) ...and GOD knows the unjust! Look back in time and see what was the end of the unjust -- those before...and look at those in the present; dwelling in humiliation and fear...living a world where everything they touch is simply “ouch!”. So, yeah -- to me...this isn’t my world! It is not enough world to “manipulate” God’s words or sayings. To attribute lies to him. To make his Messengers devine or gods beside Him. My life, time, energy, worry, and everything else is devoted ONLY to God -- and ALL God! Five years ago -- I couldn’t say this! I had two decorations at my house; “Allah” and “Muhammad” in similar height...color...weight...and appearances. To the non-arabic speaking people, it was two gods who i “worshipped” and yes...I can say today that I DID worshipped Muhammad beside God(in many things -- including speaking to HIM, directly, in my salats by saying; “asalama calayka ayuhal nabiyu” “peace be upon you, o you Prophet!) It is wonderful how God guides the blind -- and gives them sight to see with. How He makes the deaf hear again. How He helps the dumb understand. Truly, All Praise is due to God; the Lord of the Universe! I have no god beside Him -- and helper and beneficent I have in Him. Who is more lucky than that? I know not...but let me say; "Praise be to God!" Peace and Love to all Muslims, -Ahmad!
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| | Unrecorded Date Ahmed said: "Soomaalidaa waxay tiraahdaa -- "ishaa u macalin ah!" My world -- is far better than HIS, for sure. I do NOT, in anyway, idolize anyone beside God anymore -- BLESSED be the Lord." But hypocrites like Ahmed try to hide their faith and their way of salaat while claiming to follow QURAN ALONE. !! He says "I swear, Umar, on the Holy Name of my Lord, hypocrites are those who say "we believe" but do not believe -- who dwell in the world of Satan...who give their salats" However, Ahmed keeps his salats secret, because he knows that it is not in the Quran.! He would not tell us how he performs salaat.! He lives in the *world* of *hypocrites and he looks at the *world* through rose-colored glasses. Ahmed and Rashad Khalifa's followers think that they are better than everyone in the world, but Ahmed can't say how he performs his prayers.!! I wish he did.
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| | Unrecorded Date All you need to Idolize someone is follow his satanic teachings and AHMED of course WORSHIPS RASHAD which makes him equal to father michaels. But Ahmed is far more worse than him.
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| | Unrecorded Date Asalama alaykum Muslim! Umar, Another saying; "hal daba mar baratey, halaha kale lama daaqdo" you love distortion -- need i to tell you that I posted LONG ago how I do my salat in somalinet??? BUT, then again, you need heavenly - glasses, correct? forgive me! ;) Peace - Ahmad!
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| | Unrecorded Date Ahmed said: "Another saying; "hal daba mar baratey, halaha kale lama daaqdo" you love distortion -- need i to tell you that I posted LONG ago how I do my salat in somalinet??? BUT, then again, you need heavenly - glasses, correct? forgive me! ;)" Well, Ahmed keep saying again and again that he "posted LONG ago how he does his salaat" on somalinet forum, but that does not mean I have seen it. It could be that Ahmed posted it long before I started to visit this forum. If the slogan "ishaa macalin ah" is true, then Ahmed wouldn’t have hidden from me where he posted how he does his salaat. Or simply, Ahmed could produce it on here again, right?
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| | Unrecorded Date Asalama Alayakum Muslims! Umar, WHAT did I tell you before??? THIS was something that you should know. I'm sorry that you missed it. The whole point was -- I DIDN'T reproduce it again...BECAUSE it's ALREADY in work(and in use)! Thus, what I would need from that is TO correct it, right? I did. I told you that I don't do "muhammadan rasululah" anymore. SIMILAR to this, God did not reproduce salat in the Qur`an...because it was already in work(and in use! HE ONLY corrected it. HAHAHA! Now, go to Islamic Section -- and get the posts "SALAAD" and "SALAT IN THE QUR`AN" or ...simply search all the posts made by me(through the search-machine) - and you will find them there. IF by any chance you don't find it, please follow this link;http://somalinet.com/forum/forumfind.cgi?hit=http://somalinet.com/library/forums_archive/39/2925.html?SundayFebruary1320001022am#POST26225 Peace - Ahmad!
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| | Unrecorded Date Ahmed said: "WHAT did I tell you before???" That Ahmed follows ONLY the QURAN.! Ahmed said: "I'm sorry that you missed it. The whole point was -- I DIDN'T reproduce it again...BECAUSE it's ALREADY in work(and in use)! Thus, what I would need from that is TO correct it, right? I did. I told you that I don't do "muhammadan rasululah" anymore." Well, there is nothing wrong with the saying of "muhammadan rasululah". It is in the Quran--- Muhammad is the rusulu-Allah. Ahmed said: "SIMILAR to this, God did not reproduce salat in the Qur`an...because it was already in work(and in use! HE ONLY corrected it. HAHAHA!" Yes and Muhammad taught the SALAAT and he show people the correct SALAAT. Muhammad is the one the Muslims learned the SALAAT from.
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| | Unrecorded Date Asalama alaykum muslims, umar, there is something wrong with; "muhammadan rasullulah" -- god bears witness that he is the rasullulah...and i believe he is a rasullulah. however, choosing him...exclusively is what god asked us against. he said this; [Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and(to all) the Prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islám)." 3.84 To those who believe in Allah and His messengers and make no distinction between any of the messengers, we shall soon give their (due) rewards: for Allah is Oft- forgiving, Most Merciful. 4.152] thus -- if we can't say from adam to muhammad -- we shouldn't be saying only muhammad. i say alot of times to the unbelievers that "I believe Muhammad was a prophet of God" -- however...i only say that to tell them that i'm muslim. but when i'm praying -- i don't need to do that. god knows i believe muhammad to be a messenger of his. and this is what god said; [When the Hypocrites come to thee, they say, "We bear witness that thou art indeed the Messenger of Allah." Yea, Allah knoweth that thou art indeed His Messenger, and Allah beareth witness that the Hypocrites are indeed liars. 63.1] it is the hypocrites who "repeat" when its not needed. arabs at the time of muhammad, those who did not believe truthfuly, would come to the prophet and say; "i bear witness that you're the messenger of allah" similar, those who repeat this in their daily prayers -- are either...hypocrites or believers who make distinction between messengers of allah. you said; [Yes and Muhammad taught the SALAAT and he show people the correct SALAAT. Muhammad is the one the Muslims learned the SALAAT from.] of course, from the qur`an, muhammad told the arabs that; - only allah shall be addressed in the salat... - you are about to pray these five times of the day...and THOSE times. - you shall not call others with god in his places of worship(masjids) - you shall pray when the salat times are there...and hasten to hold onto it. all these are in the qur`an. and don't forget -- muhammad uttered the qur`an to others. please, also don't forget -- there were many non-abrahamic-pagan arabs like jews and christians and those who worshipped fire, etc...who did not know salat -- and thought...like hajj/ramadan, it was just a pagan practice. when those embraced islam -- muhammad taught them how to pray. but, i ahmad -- along with many other muslims...taught new-muslims how to pray. this doesn't mean we "taught" them how to pray...we showed them how to pray. in the ICS community(people who follow rashad) there are among them people who believe "rashad" taught how to pray -- no no...rashad only showed us what was IN the qur`an. i don't believe rashad to have been a messenger -- but he showed me in the qur`an...where god corrected the prayers -- things that i was blind about...due to traditional reasons and biased. peace - ahmad!
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| | Unrecorded Date Ahmed said: "thus -- if we can't say from adam to muhammad -- we shouldn't be saying only muhammad. i say alot of times to the unbelievers that "I believe Muhammad was a prophet of God" -- however...i only say that to tell them that i'm muslim. but when i'm praying -- i don't need to do that. god knows i believe muhammad to be a messenger of his. and this is what god said" Well, in my prayers(SALAAT), I mention prophet Ibraahim too AND his family; I also mention and PRAY FOR ALL THE MUSLIMS(INCLUDING ME AND THE OTHER 1 BILLION OF MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD). I say: IHDINA SIRAADAL MUSTAQIIM SIRAADAL LADIINA AN CAMTA CALAYHIM QAYRIL MAQDUUBI WALA DAALIIN. Ahmed said: "it is the hypocrites who "repeat" when its not needed. arabs at the time of muhammad, those who did not believe truthfuly, would come to the prophet and say; "i bear witness that you're the messenger of allah" similar, those who repeat this in their daily prayers -- are either...hypocrites or believers who make distinction between messengers of allah." Yes, it is the hypocrites and the hypocrites fabricate lies. You see, the Quran does NOT say that you one can NOT say MAXAMADAN RASUULULAH while praying. It is Ahmed's OWN HADEETH that disallows this. If we denied that others were not RASUULS than there is something wrong, but we do not deny them, but we deny there is another messenger to come after Muhammad such as Rashad Khadaab. Ahmed said: "you said; [Yes and Muhammad taught the SALAAT and he show people the correct SALAAT. Muhammad is the one the Muslims learned the SALAAT from.] of course, from the qur`an, muhammad told the arabs that; - only allah shall be addressed in the salat... - you are about to pray these five times of the day...and THOSE times. - you shall not call others with god in his places of worship(masjids) - you shall pray when the salat times are there...and hasten to hold onto it. all these are in the qur`an. and don't forget -- muhammad uttered the qur`an to others." Yes, our last messenger/prophet Muhammad "uttered" and "taught" and "showed" how to pray the SALAAT. The FORMULA of SALAAT is NOT in the QURAN. Muhammad SHOWED HOW TO PRAY. Ahmed said: "there were many non-abrahamic-pagan arabs like jews and christians and those who worshipped fire, etc who did not know salat and thought...like hajj/ramadan, it was just a pagan practice. " yes. Ahmed said: "when those embraced islam -- muhammad taught them how to pray. but, i ahmad -- along with many other muslims...taught new-muslims how to pray. this doesn't mean we "taught" them how to pray...we showed them how to pray." The last messenger/prophet Muhamamd said: PRAY AS YOU SEE ME PRAY. But WHO *TAUGHT* AHMED HOW TO PRAY? Ahmed said: "in the ICS community(people who follow rashad) there are among them people who believe "rashad" taught how to pray -- no no...rashad only showed us what was IN the qur`an." And WHO *TAUGHT* RASHAD KADAAB HOW TO PRAY? Ahmed said: "no no...rashad only showed us what was IN the qur`an." No, Rashad Kadaab lied to Ahmed. The Quran did TEACH SALAAT to Rashad KADAAB. Ahmed said: "i don't believe rashad to have been a messenger -- but he showed me in the qur`an...where god corrected the prayers -- things that i was blind about...due to traditional reasons and biased." Ahmed is a hypocrite and a follower of RASHAD KADAAB. How can he follow a KADAAB who claimed to have been a messenger from ALLAH? What a blind follower Ahmed is!
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| | Unrecorded Date To: cumar, xirsi, iyo ansaari . Walaalayaal waxaan doonayaa inaan ogaado waxaad kuhaysataan Axmad ee loogu sheegay inuu yahay "follower of Rashad Kadaab." Waxaan ahay gabadh soomaaliyeed oo diinta ku dhagankeeda kusoo biirtay mudo laba sano ah, waxaanan jeclahay inaan diinta barto, sidaa daraadeed had ba meeshii aan is idhaa waxbaa kaaga kordhaaya ayaan doontaa isda Islamic Forum. Markaa waxaan doonayaa inaan ogaado, meesha uu khaladka kuyeesha, maxaayeelay Axmed waxaan moodaayey in uu yahay nin doonaya inuu saxo khaladka ka isku sheegay "Father." Sidaa daraadeed shaki wayn ayaa iqabsaday markii aad is the hortimaadeen. Qofku haddii aanu deenta garanayn mid uu rumaysto garan maayo. Markaa walaalayaal haddii aad tihiin niman muslimiin ah, waxaan idinka codsanayaa inaad aad iiga soo dhaadhicisaay khalad ka aadka dareenteen axmed oo marka aan eegay boga uusalaada kaga hadlaayo aanan wax khalad ah anigu kadareemin. Aisha.
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| | Unrecorded Date Anonymous, I think you are wasting your time if you beleive that by coming on the internet, you will learn diin. Reading posts on this forum and reading debates between people like cumar, xirsi, ansaari, father, ahmad or anyone else, will not give you the real true Islam. Therefore, uma malaynaayo meeshaan internetka ah in ay diin kaagama gordayso.
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| | Unrecorded Date To xirsi. By Aisha Asalaamu Calaykum xirsi. First, aad iyo aad baad ugu mahad santahay Jawaab taad isiisay maxaayeelay markii aan akhriyay many postings, i became very confused and afraid to try any more, because Islam is not about debates between people but knowledge and trueth telling. I thought you tell only what you know is the trueth according the qur'aan. I thought person with clean hearts would never tell something that will mislead vurlnerable persons like me. Even though someone like "Father Meachel" would never mislead me, its hard to tell from the others, who seems to know the qu'raan. However, It's very frastrating for me not to able to read the qur'aan even though i usually read the somali version as well as the english version. I still feel very empty inside for my luck of knowledge. I undertant wy you did not unswer my question, but can you please tell me who are the "followers Of Rashad." thanks.
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| | Unrecorded Date sister anonymous(aisha). assalaamu caleykum. Abbaayo waxaan ilaahey kaaga rajeynayaa inuu cilmi kuu siyaadiyo intaa ka dib waxaad kusoo celcelisey su'aasha RAHSAD KHALIFA. waxaad ka heli kartaa jawaabtaada meeshaan ee booqo inshallah. (waa nin rasuulnimo sheegtey oo mareykanaka degganaa oo masjid ka sameystey tucson arizona state. Axmed iyo mid kaloo isna soomaali ah oo la yiraahdo mahamud abib oo isna somali.soc.culture wax ku qorqoraba waxey ka tirsan yihiin qoladdas gaalda ah waxayna habeen iyo maalin u taagan yihiin sidey soomaalida u galaafan lahaayeen.) http://www.geocities.com/~abdulwahid/muslimarticles/cons_submitters.html Kuguma adkeynaayi inad aqriyo haddaadse rabto inaad qanciso naftaada iyo Haddaad jeceshahay inaad wax ka fahamto doodaha halkaan ee ka dhexeeya AXMED iyo dadka kale waxaad ka billoowdaa. 1- who prohibits things hadith or quran I&II. 2- salaadda. 3-Ahmed from free minds shayaadiinta casriga I&II. 4-muslims blame eve like jews/christians do I&II. 5- EX sunni I&II. 6- the difference between messengers and prophets. waxbaad ka fahmi doontaa sidey ila tahay. xaqana ilaahey hanna wada fahamsiiyo. salaam iyo ciid wanaagsan. axmedna iska ilaali.
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| | Unrecorded Date To bashir abdi from Aisha. asalaamu calaykum. Walaal aad baad ugu mahad santahay jawaab taadii. Waan wada akhriyay dhamaan bogagaad ii soo doortay, si wanaag sana waan u fahmay sifooyinka ahmed iyo ujeedadiisa oo dhan. Markii hore haddii aan akhrinlahaa waswaas igumuudhaceen, ee dhibatkinii ayaan dhexda kabilaaby. Walaal waxaan kaloon ku way diisanayaa inay jiraan bogag islami ah oo muslimiintu wax ka faa,iidaystaan oo aad isleedahay waa save? micnihii aan rag ahmed oo kale ahi maamulin. Walaal dhamaantiin oodhan ilaahay ha idinka jasaai mariyo sida wanaagsan ee aad ula tacaasheen Axmed iyo kuma lamid ah inaad kaqabataan dadka muslimiinta ah ee khatarda ugu jira. salamad.
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| | Unrecorded Date aisha. Wacaleykum assalaam.(MEESHAAN ISAGA CARAR). Horta walaaleey aniga waxaan kula jeclahay cilmiga inaad u raadsato dadka aqoonta leh ee soomaaliyeed meelaha ay wax ka aqriyaan sida masaajidda iyo haddii madarasooyin laga helo meeshaad deggan tahay. Waxaa soo xiga website yada kuwa ahlusunnaha ah inta aan ka aqaan waa kuwan. http://www.islamworld.net oo ugu macluumaad badan oo wax yaalo badan aad ka heli karto. Iyagaa waxey ku siin doonaan links fara badan laakiin marka hore adiga ha isku badin ee isaga ka billoow. http://www.beconvinced.com waxaad ka barataa sida kirishtaanka iyo gaalada loo raddiyo beenta ay islaamka ka sheegaan maalin walba oo isna waa meel wanaagsan. labadaas ayaan kuugu soo koobaya haddii eebbe idmo. Waxaan kugu waaninayaa inaadan waligaa qof hadley hadalkiisa aadan raacin ilaa daliil cad uu kuu sheego waxaad ku warertana oo aqoonteeda aadan laheyn waxad weydiisaa dadka ahlul cilmiga ah oo wanaagga laguugu sheegey. Doodahana waligaa ha gelin oo faa'iido ma leh mar aqoontaada haddey ka dheer tahay oo waa lagu lumaa. Cilmigana barashada ilaahey ka billoow si aad uga cabsato illeyn haddaadan alle aqoon fiican u laheyn cabsidaadaad ka cabsato wey yaraan doontaa waxaa aayad quraan ah rasuulka lagu amrey "baro in ilaahey kaligii la caabbude yahay deetana dambi dhaaf weydiiso" ficilka dambi dhaafka waxaa looga horumariyey rasuulkii alle cilmiga barashadiisa sidaa daraaddeed adna waxaad ku dadaashaa sidaad camalka diinteed qabato inad taqaan cilmigeeda wax adagna maahan. deetana raaci nabiga caleyhi salaam inaad isna barato iyo xuquuqda uu kugu leeyahay. Salaaddana waa muhiimee iyana si fican u baro "Waxa ugu horreeya ee lagu xisaabiyo addoonka waa salaadda haddey hagaagtana camalkiisa kale wuu wanaagsanaan donaa" ayuu yiri rasuulka ilaahey. "u tukada sidaad aragteen anigoo u tukanaaya" ayuuna dadka farey e sida rasuulka u tukadey qofka kuugu dhow ee diinta sida fiican u yaqaanna i bar dheh. Inta kale wey iska sahlanaan doonaan ee dadaalkaaga ilaahey hakula garab galo. Cilmigana ilaahey hakuu fududeeyo. Mar labaad meelaha cilmiga laga barto waxaa ugu habboon masaajidda ama madarasada ama guriga haddii reerihiinna laga heli karo qof diinta yaqaan. ilaahey ha innoo fududeeyo dhammaanteen xaqa.
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| | Unrecorded Date Sister Aisha, I do not know the guy you are asking me. I didn’t know him and I've never met him. If he said he was sent by Allah, then he misled himself. Therefore, his soul is getting rough beating in the grave till the day of judgment. He will be in the company of other phonies who forged lies and misled others. He will face the same faith of musaylama, Paul, Drew Ali, Elijah booh and his teacher frad Mahamad.
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| | Unrecorded Date ÈÓã Çááå ÇáÑÍãä ÇáÑÍíã ÇáÍãÏ ááå ÑÈ ÇáÚÇáãíä æÇáÕáÇÉ æÇáÓáÇã Úáí ÑÓæÇ Çááå æÈÚÏ¡ walaalayaal waad mahadsantihiin marka hore allaha haydinka abaalmariyo difaaca aad ugu jirtaan diintiina. midda labaad qudhaydaa ku wareersan waxaad axmed isku haysataan mana aha inanan diinta aqoon u lahayn ee luqadda aad ku wada hadlaysaan baanan aad u fahmaeynin marka waxaan jeclaan inaad ii faahfaahisan bal wuxuu aaminsan yahay amaba qudhiisa bal af soomaali ha ku caddeeyo.waxaan kaloon fahmin wuxuu ka sheegayay albaani (ÑÍãå Çááå) bal noo soo bakballaariya xaqqa allaha na tuso wadadiisana allaha hanagu hagaajiyo. walaalkiin/mim makka
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| | Unrecorded Date xirsi thanks for your trying, Bashir, did help me with every thing that i was looking for and thanks to Allah, i did understand them all. And for axmed, i will make sure i spread the word of his misleading faith to whose who don't know yet and might be confussed of his teachings. I believe he has more respect and understanding for jews and christians than he does for muslims as well as the holy qur'aan of Allah subxaana watacaalaa and his nabi, Maxammed (scw). I may add that he is phylosiphor than anything else that he claimed to be, and learned the ways to mislead people and conceal the truth. But I am proud that intellegent young men such as, umar, bashir, and many more showed him islam is not about the Torah,or christianatiy, but the Truth words of the holy qur'aan and sunnah. Therefore, his misleading faith wont hurt any one else but him selve. Aisha.
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| | Unrecorded Date BY DALMAR TO MICHEAL IS JESUS GOD? IF YES - DID HE SAID I'M GOD?IF YES WHERE ? IF HE IS GOD DID HE SAID WORSHIP ME? IF YES WHERE? JESUS RELIGION WAS IN FACT DISINCTLY DIFFEREN FROM CRISTIAN KNOW TODAY. NOWHERE IN THE (BIBLE) WILL YOU FIND GOD REVEALING TO PROPHET MOSSES PEOPLE OR THEIR DESCENDANTS THAT THEIR RILIGION IS CALLED (JUDAISM) OR THE FOLLOWERS OF (CHRIST ) THAT THEIR RILIGION IS CALLED(CRISTIANITY)HAD NO DIVINE ORIGIN OR APPROVAL. IT WAS NOT UNTIL LONG AFTER HIS DEPARTURE THAT THE NAME CHRISTIANITY WAS GIVEN TO JESUS RELIGION. HIS RELIGION WAS REFLECTED IN HIS TEACHINGS WHICH HE URGED HIS FOLLOWERS TO ACCEPT AS GUIDING PRINCIPLES IN THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD. IN ISLAM JESUS IA A PROPHET SENT BY ALLAH AND HIS ARABIC NAME IS EASA. LIKE THE OTHER PROPHETS BEFORE HIM HE CALLED UPON THE PEOPLE TO SURRENDER THEIR WILL TO THE WILL OF GOD (WHICH IS WHAT ISLAM STANDS FOR) FOR EXAMPLEIN THE NEW TESTAMENT IT IS STATED THAT JESUS TAUGHT HIS FOLLOWERS TO PRAY TO GOD AS FOLLOWS: (LUKE 11:2/MATTEW 6:9-10) OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN HALLOWED BE YOUR NAME MAY YOUR WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN. JESUS ALSO POINTED OUT THAT HE HIMSELF SUBMITTED TO THE WILL OF GOD(JOHN5:30) I CANNOT DO ANYTHING OF MYSELF. I JUDGE AS I HEAR AND MY JUDGEMENT IS HONEST BECAUSE I AM NOT SEEKING MY OWN BUT THE WILL OF HIM WHO SENT ME. THERE ARE MANY REPORTS IN THE GOSPELS WHICH SHOW THAT JESUS MADE IT CLEAR TO HIS FOLLOWERS THAT HE WAS NOT THE ONE TRUE GOD. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN SPEAKING ABOUT THE FINAL HOUR, HE SAID (MARK 13:32) NO-ONE KNOWS ABOUT THAT DAY OR THE HOUR NOT EVEN THE ANGELS IN HEVEN NOT THE SON, BUT ONLY THE FATHER. NOR JESUS DID JESUS WORSHIP HIMSELF WHEN HE WORSHIPED BUT RATHER HE WORSHIPPED GOD. AND JESUS WAS REPORTED IN THE GOSPELS TO HAVE SAID: (LUKE4:8) WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD AND SERVE HIM ONLY. A MAN SAID TO JESUS (MATTHEW19:16-17)GOOD MASTER , WHAT GOOD THINK SHALL I DO THAT I MAY HAVE ENTERNAL LIFE ENTER INTO HEAVEN?(17) AND HE SAID UNTO HIM WHY DO U CALL ME GOOD? THERE IS NONE GOOD BUT ONE, THAT IS GOD. BUT IF YOU WILL ENTER INTO LIFE KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS. JESUS IS BEEN ASKED THE FIRST OF ALL THE COMMANDMENT. HE ANSWERED THE FIRST OF ALL THE COMMANDMENTS IS HEAR O ISRAEL. THE LORD YOUR GOD IS ONE LORD.SCRIBE SAID TO JESUS WELL MASTER YOU HAVE SAID THE TRUTH-FOR THERE IS ONE GOD AND THERE IS NONE OTHER BUT HE. DO U BELIEVE GOD GETTING CIRCUMCISING? THIS IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS(LIKE2:21-24)AND WHEN EIGHT DAYS WERE ACCOMPLISHED FOR THE CIRCUMCISING OF THE CHILD. ACTS2:22 YOU MEN OF ISRAEL HEAR THESE WORDS: JESUS OF NAZARETH(WAS) A MAN ATTESTED BY GOD AMONG YOU BY MIRACLES AND WONDERS ND SINGS WHICH GOD DID BY HIM IN THE MIDST OF YOU AS YOU YOURSELVES ALSO KNOW: JOHN6:14 THEN THOSE MEN WHEN THEY HAD SEEN THE MIRACLE THAT JESUS DID SAID THIS IS TRULY THE PROPHET WHO IS COME INTO THE WORLD: JESUS WAS A PROPHET JUST LIKE MUHAMED GOD SENT TO HIS PEOPLE AT HIS TIME(JOHN8:26-28) HE WHO SENT ME IS TRUE, AND I SPEAK TO THE WORLD THOSE THINGS WHICH I HAVE HEARD OF HIM THEN JESUS TO THEM, WHEN YOU LIFT UP THE SON OF MAN THEN YOUWILL KNOW THAT I AM HE AND THAT I DO NOTHING OF MYSELF. BUT AS MY FATHER HAS TAUGHT ME, I SPEAKE THESE THINGS: JESUS FOLLOW WHAT GOD SAYS(JOHN 14:24) THE WORD WHICH YOU HEAR IS NOT MINE BUT THE FATHER'S WHO SENT ME MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I. (ALLAH SAID IN THE QUR'AN) THE RELIGION SANCTIONED BY ALLAH IS ISLAM-HE ALSO STATES IF ANYONE DISIRES A RELIGION THAN ISLAM (SUBMISSION TO ALLAH) NEVER WILL BE ACCEPT OF HIM AND IN THE HEREAFTER HE WILL BE AMONG THE LOSERS. (ALLAH SAYS) WE SHALL SHOW THEM OUR SIGNS IN THE HORIZONS AND WITHIN THEMSELVES UNTIL IT BECOMES EVIDENT TO THEM THAT IT IS THE TRUTH THE ONLY RELIGION IS ACCEPT OF ALLAH IS ISLAM
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| | Unrecorded Date JAZAAKA LAAHU KHAYRUL JAZAA DALMAR. WAA JAAMAC (HAHAA)
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| | Unrecorded Date Hello to all those who are reading this message. I apologize for the fact that I am leaving this message in an area of the forum that is of a different subject matter than my message. But I really need this message to be read by some Somali people. Before I begin my message, please keep in mind that if you wish to respond to me about my message, you will have to e-mail me, because most likely, I will NOT return to see what messages are posted in this forum in response to what you are about to read. I am not Somali, but I am learning the Somali language. It is TRULY a beautiful language as I hear it spoken. I live in U.S.A.. There are Somalis around me, and some of them are even my friends. As I study the Somali language, I am coming across a number of hurdles, some of which I cannot overcome without the help of others. I have some Somali-English dictionaries, but that is not enough. For that reason I am humbly requesting that if there is any person who is willing to help me in my efforts, could you please e-mail me. I would only need to send you one e-mail about every 3 weeks (or even less often than that). My questions would be in the e-mail. The time it would take you to answer the questions in each e-mail would be 10 minutes or less. I know that I am not supposed to advertise in this forum. But I'm not actually trying to sell anything, and I hope that my message does not fall into an unacceptable category with regard to what is allowed in this forum. If this is the case, then I do apologize. But in all honesty, I am just sincerely trying to learn your language, and I need some help. In the past, when I have tried to ask some other Somali people for help, I have found more or less the same questions to be asked to me. So, I will state these facts now, since I imagine that some of you may be hesitant to help unless you knew this information: -=-=-=-=-=- The reason I'm learning Somali is for multiple reasons: (1) I have some Somali friends, and would like to be able to talk with them also in their language (2) I'm an open-minded person with regard to other cultures, and I try not to be single-minded, and I think it's good to know about others. (3) I see Somali people where I work, and some of them are even my friends-- and I would like to be able to communicate in their language with them. (4) I enjoy studying foreign languages in general. (5) I think it is a very beautiful language. -=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=- About myself: I'm male, student and working, and I live in U.S.A -=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=- Some of the Somali people that I have asked for help in the past have said, "why don't you ask for help from the Somali people that you see in your city?" The reason why that is not practical is because of the time issue. I am trying to get more that 1 helper. Why? Because through my asking certain Somalis my various questions in the past, I have noticed that certain words are not recognized by certain individuals. Often, I get the response, "There are different dialects, depending on whether you are from the North of Somalia, the South of Somalia, etc.". Or, “We don’t use that word, I’m from the North, etc.”. Then, if I ask a different person who is from a different region, he / she would often times end up knowing the word. I have seen that certain words I would ask a person, he / she might know what it means, but another person would not have ever heard of the particular Somali word (and visa-a-versa ). The questions I ask Somali people are stemming from my readings in the Somali language, AND THESE BOOKS ARE DIFFERENT BOOKS WHICH ARE WRITTEN BY AUTHORS WHO ARE FROM DIFFERENT PLACES AND WHO HAVE DIFFERENT DIALECTS (people, some of which may be from the North, or some of which might be from the south). I need to have helpers from different places in Somalia. That is why I need more than 1 helper. So for this reason, I am in essence trying to get more than one helper in order to get that needed variety of dialects in order to get the answers to my various questions. Please forgive me if I have said anything wrong or incorrect about that, but this is my experience to this point, and this is what some Somali people around me have explained to me so far. So my basic idea is to be able to send my e-mail questions to more than 1 person (to a couple of people who are from different places in Somalia). That way, I can be sure to get the answer (that only a person from the North might be aware of, or only an answer that a person from the South might be aware of). That is why it is not practical to ask people in person in my city because it takes too much time running around trying to get different responses from different people with different dialects if the first person I ask does not know the answer perhaps due to the fact that this person is not from a certain region where a certain word is not even used (and this word just happens to be the word that I'm asking for the meaning of). -=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=- "Why don't you just go to one of those Somali web sites and get grammar books and stuff?" This is also not enough. I have already bought some English-Somali dictionaries, and I have access to Somali grammar books. But there are some questions that you need to ask others. For example, here is one question that you might receive from me: in a Somali text that I was reading, I saw this sentence, <<Hadda waa nin weyn >> . . I already knew the meanings of the individual words, "Hadda" = "Now / just now" <><> "waa nin" = "he's a man / it's a man" <><> "weyn" = "big". But I'm almost sure, based on the context in which this word appeared that the author was NOT talking about a BIG man, like a giant. I was thinking perhaps "weyn" was being used in the sense "adult" or "older / old man". But I was not sure. This was an example where I really needed a Somali person to let me type out this sentence to him / her in an e-mail (as well as the sentence before and after it), and then to have that helper simply explain the following information: "WEYNcan also mean 'such and such' and that in this sentence where the word WEYN is used, it means 'such and such'." -- Because I don't have the experience of hearing the language spoken in context (because I can't understand Somali spoken fluently yet), I sometimes need the help of a person who has heard these words used in various ways, and who is able to give an easy 3 second answer off the top of his / her head because it's his / her native language, whereas I can not do that. There is another reason why I need more than 1 helper. Because these questions pop up often when I do my readings in Somali. I want more than 1 helper because I DON’T want to burden and overload a small number of helpers with my questions in e-mails every 2 days. That is not polite, and it is inappropriate. So, I’m going to get enough helpers to that I can divide up my questions among various people. That way, my MANY questions are being answered, but each individual is only answering about 1 e-mail every 3 weeks. And each e-mail only takes about 10 minutes or less to answer the questions. After all, if a person is kind enough to offer his / her help, then the least I can do is keep my questions to a limit for that person. -=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=-=- And the last question that I've gotten a lot of times is, "Hey man, you are Somali, why don't you just admit it! I don't believe you!" No, I am not Somali. I am American. I cannot prove it unless you live in my city and meet me. -=-=-=-=-=- Well, I think that is about it. Once again, I apologize if this message is inappropriate for this area of the forum. If any person is willing to help me, I WOULD VERY MUCH SO appreciate it. Basically, I need a person who speaks both Somali and English fluently, and who is also able to read the Somali language. And by the way, please keep in mind that if you wish to respond to me about my message, you will have to e-mail me, because most likely, I will NOT return to see what messages are posted in this forum in response to what you have just read. My e-mail is as follows… gateway388@hotmail.com
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