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SomaliNet Forum (Archive): RA'YIGA DADWEYNAHA - Your Opinion: Somalia: Somaliland Politics: Somaliland Politics: The Un·official Approx Statistics of Somaliland
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Ma Qariye

Friday, November 17, 2000 - 02:41 am
approx. statistics:

----Darood-----
less than 9% of the total population.
3% Warsengli
6% Dhulmahante

---Others----
1% of the others-clan (migaans, yibir etc).

----Dir--------
The Dir makes more than 90% of Somaliland's population.

Ciise, makes less than 1% of the 90%.

Gadabuursay, makes about 15% of the 90%.

Isaaq, makes about 74% of the 90%.

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CIISE/GADABUURSI

Friday, November 17, 2000 - 06:25 am
to qudhme:

wakhtigii beenta iyo bugta ad wax ku cunnayseen wuu dhamaaday. isaaq waa 45%. 55% waa ciise gadabuursi iyo soomaalidda kale. ciisihii iyo gadabuursigii ad dhulkoodda ku dul iibsanjirteena way soojeedaan maanta. waxanina kaama soconayaan maanta ee wax kale la golo´imo.

JAWAAB NIN CIISE IYO NIN GADABUURSI AY WADDA QOREEN.

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RUNSHEEG

Friday, November 17, 2000 - 07:50 am
Sixitaan

Somaliland sidanaa loo kala degaa

1. Isaaq 84%
2. Gudabiirsey 12%
3. Darod 4%(including Midgaans and yibirs)

Qabiiladu siday isu leeg yihiin

Jibriil Abuukar=Gudabiirsey iyo Ciise
Muse Ismail=Warsangeli
Rer Dahir(HJ)=Dhulmahanto

Qabiilada ugu badan somaliland waa sidan

1. Garxajis (30%)
2.Habar Tol Jeclo(27%)
3.Habar Awal (22%)
4.Gudabiirsi 12%
5.Darod 4%
6.Arab and other Isaaq clans 5%
7.Other Somalis 1%

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RUNSHEEG

Friday, November 17, 2000 - 08:51 am
Waar ILLAAHAY ka baqa. Inkasta oo la tirin aniga sidan ayey ila tahay:

ISAAQ = 45%
Gadabursi = 28%
Darod including others = 25%
Ciise = 2%

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RUNSHEEG

Friday, November 17, 2000 - 09:00 am
Waar ILLAAHAY ka baqa. Inkasta oo la tirin aniga sidan ayey ila tahay:

ISAAQ = 45%
Gadabursi = 28%
Darod including others = 25%
Ciise = 2%

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RUNSHEEG

Friday, November 17, 2000 - 09:03 am
Habar Awal = 20%
Habar Jeclo = 15%
Garxajis = 7%
Darod = 25%
Gadabursi = 28%
Ciise = 2%
Others = 3%

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buubaaye

Friday, November 17, 2000 - 09:08 am
To inahooyadiiwase "beensheege" waxa aad meesha ku qortay ma khraafaadkii inacigaalkii sirkhaansanaaba isaaq wakhtigiisii waadhamaaday daarood waaka tashaday ciise iyo gadabuursina waakatashadeen tirada aad sheeganayso meel hakugayso habar awasha aadtiri garxajisbay le egtahay ........beenaale....warcagli keen aanu kaa maqalee........

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lascaanood

Friday, November 17, 2000 - 05:45 pm
if dhulbahante is five percent why british have to protect to you between 1905 -1960. if you and your father were born burco. burco is where my grandfather was born. keep in mind

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CIISE

Saturday, November 18, 2000 - 12:44 am
TO BEENSHEEG

BEENTA XILIGEEDDII WUU DHAMAADAY AMA 1000% SHEEGO AMA 100% TAASI RAG INIMA KALA SAARAYSO EE TASHADA DANTIINA GARTA HADDAAD RAGTIHIIN. INA BIN-AXMED IYO IYAAN LA DHASHEEYNA WAY DHAMAATAY CIISANA WUU FAHMAY KHIYAAMADIINII. AFARTA QOF EE JIBRIL-ABOKOR EE KU TILMAAMAYSIIN IN AY GADABUURSI AMA CIISE LEEGYIHIINA WAA KUWII SHALAY MARKII LA GUMAADAYAY CIISE SHEEGANAYAY. CEEB MA´AHAYN TAASI OO CIISE WUXU U ARKAYEY DAD WALAALAHOODA UU SHISHEEYA IYO GADABUURSI OO WALAALKII DILE NOQDAY AY CIDHIBTIRAYAAN. GADABUURSI IYO CIISANA HALKAAS IYAY COLAADDOODU KA BILAABANTAY. CIISOW MAXAAD CADDAWGA IYO BUDHCADDA SNM U QARIN OO REERIHIINA UGA BARIINAYSIIN IYAY GADABUURSI TAAGNAAYEEN. CIISANA WUXUU UGU JAWAABI JIRAY WAAR RAGGANI MIYAYNA WALAALEHEENII DHULKA INALA DEGANAA AHAYN SIDEEN U O´GALAAN KARNAA IN HORTEENA LAGU DHAMEEYO, WARMIYAYDAAN DAMIIR LAHAYN RAGGIINAN SAMAROON?
WALLEE ISAAQ BAANAD AQOON EE ARKI DOONE IYUU GADABUURSI KU JAWAABI JIRAY.
SHEEKADA AN HALKAN KU QORAY MA´AHA MID ISKA SHEEG AH WAA XAQIIQA DHACDAY ANIGA MEESHAN WAX KU QORAYANA WALAAL MACAANE IYAAN KU WAAYAY DAGAALKAAS WAXANA DILAY GADABUURSI. MAXAY TAHAY HADDABA SOBOBTA AN MAANTA U JECELAHAY IN RAGGII GADABUURSI EE WALAALKAY DILAY AN ULA HESHIINO OON SOO CESHANO WANAAGII NA DHEXYAALAY INTAYNA TOLKAY REERKAN WAALAN WAYSADDA U QAADIN?
WAXA UU MAANTA CIISE OGAADAY IN GADABUURSI AY KA SAXSANAAYEEN ISAAQNA AN WALAAL IYO WEHEL TOONA LAGA DHIGAN KARIN. CIISE IYO GADBUURSI SIDA UU QOFWALBIBA OGYAHAY WAY HESHIIYEEN CIISANA WUXU WALAALAHOODA GADABUURSI U BALANQAADAY IN AYNA DIB DAMBE ISAAQ ULA SOO SAFAN DOONIN.
KOLKAA ISAAQOW AMA SOMALIND SHEEGTA AMA WAN GO´AYNAA DHAHA AMA XABASHIDA AD JECESHIHIIN KU BIIRA LAAKIIN DHUL CIISE IYO GADABUURSI LEEYIHIIN HA KU TASHANINI IN AD KA IIBISAAN DAWLADDAHA REER GALEEDKA SI´AY SUNKA WARSHADDAHA UGU AASAAN.

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Anonymous

Saturday, November 18, 2000 - 03:35 pm
Why is it that the Older generation of Isaaq people call themselves DIR , while the less educated younger Isaaq never associate themselves with DIR. This is a genuine question.

All the older Isaaq men I talk to say quite categorically that the Somalis consist of DIR IYO DAROOD, whilst the young Somalilanders of today ignore this and pretend that they have nothing to do with the DIR.

This trend was also observed for a short period with the ESA. They sometimes forget they are DIR and pretend that they are Issaq!

You have to remember that both Isaaq and Darood both married into the DIR tribe so be proud of being associated with the DIR as it is your passport to being SOMALI.


yours peacefully

A Dir person

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Mr. Objective

Sunday, November 19, 2000 - 05:46 am
Hi everybody!!!!!!

There is only Dir in Somaliland that is my opinion. Darood and Isaaq are as real as a science fiction movie loool(Basically thay are not real).

I am an Issaaq(Garxajis) by birth but i am DIR as well. The Issaq in my opinion was a clan that grew so big and wealthy(Comparatively) that they branched of from the DIR and claimed Arab descent to solidify their muslim identity. This was done by Muslims through out the world.

We as Somalis have intermarried with the Arabs but we can not be Arabs it does not make sense to believe that, thus we can say with certainty that clans was a fantasy that became real.

Our ancestors claimed Arab descent for religious resons and prestige, rememer at that point in time we had just became Muslim and we wanted to strengthen our bonds with Islam thus the fictional Sheekoyin.

When serious research is done you can only come to the conclusion that the DIR/Galla peoples are what we are all, this other nonsense is fictional that is my opinion but you can go on believing that you are something else, it is free world and free expression of ideas is vital for a healthy society.

Nabadgelyo!!!!!!!!!!!

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official figure

Sunday, November 19, 2000 - 06:11 am
this is the official figures that the hargeysa office of information has given to us

70% isaaq
10% gudabiirsi
12% Dulbahnte
8% warsangeli and the rest of small tribes

Isaaq
Haber jeclo 32.5%
garhejis 26%
Haber Awal 25%
arab and other small isaaq tribes 16.5%

this is the official figures

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Anonymous

Sunday, November 19, 2000 - 08:17 am
Mr objective , thank you for your honest answer.

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Official

Sunday, November 19, 2000 - 08:44 am
Isaaq = 40%
Gadabursi = 28%
Dhulbahante = 20%
Warsangali = 7%
Ciise and other smaller clans = 5%


Isaaq

Habar Jeclo = 20%
Habar Awal = 13%
Garxajis and other smaller Isaaq = 7%

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Census

Sunday, November 19, 2000 - 12:49 pm
Meesha Census dhab ah ma yaal laakiin approximation baa jira waana sidan;

Isaaq 95%
Dir 3%
Darod and others 2%

that number is final, now let us move on.

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ahmed

Sunday, November 19, 2000 - 12:59 pm
isaaq is much more less than what they were in 1980 and half of them live resev area(ethiopia). isaaq family are fewer than other somali tribes family. in the future isaaq will be small minority in north somalia.

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rag yaqaan

Sunday, November 19, 2000 - 01:01 pm
it's very simple

1-garxajis 50%
2-other tribes combined 50%

saaxibayaal badnaanta maaha ii waa cilmiga iyo raganimada that's what counts

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SOMALIISAQ

Sunday, November 19, 2000 - 02:22 pm
WAXBA MEYDAAN SHEEGIN. WAXAAD TIHIIN CUDUR, DHAMMAANA WAXAAD ISTAAHISHAAN IN LEYDIN BUUFIYO.WAXAAN RABAY INAAN WAX MEESHAN KU QORO, HASE YEESHEE INTA AY SIDAN TAHAY WAA II KOW WAANA IGU DAMBAYN. WAAR WAQTIGA HAYSKA DILINA EE NAFTIINA WAX U QABSADA, AAKHIRADIINANA WAX ULA HADHA.CAYDA REER KASTA OO SOOMAALIYEED WAA MID INA TAABANAYSA, DHAMMAAN WAXAY NU NAHAY TOL,ABTI IYO XIDID.ALLE HAYDIN SOO HADEEYO.

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reer nuur

Sunday, November 19, 2000 - 03:16 pm
waar waa yaab CIISE waraabe ayaaba maanta hadlaaya oo siyaasad ka hadlaaya, waar Ciise iyo gadabuursi waligoodba col ayay ahaayeen somalilandna waa naga kiin xigaan oo waa walaalahayo yar waalan uun waanan dabiibaynaa ee ciise futo madooboow na daa, horaa loo yidhi "Doqon hana gargaarsan hana u gargaarin"
Ciise waa kii odhan jiray Gaalka cad ee faransissikuba waa Ciise ee camalkiisa ayuunbaa cadeeyay oo wuu inaga camal fiicanyahay micnaha.
ciisow jabuuti ayaad haysataa adoo doqonimona abaheed ah,
aayar gorowgaaga iska cun.

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ciise

Monday, November 20, 2000 - 07:38 am
xaar yahow ha sheegan ree-nuur iyo gobtii aabahay dhashay. raggii xaarka ay ku dhajiyeen ee JB inaad tahay way ii muuqataa. haddaanan golxad kaygii dheeraa kaaga shaqayn waad arki doontaa. waqooyi isaaq kaligii iyaa iska leh haddayna kaa hadhin habaryahay afka dheerlihi.

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Anonymous

Monday, November 20, 2000 - 07:45 am
LATEST OFFICIAL FIGURES:

GADABUURSI 30%
CIISE 20%
DAAROOD 37%
ISAAQ 10%
ATHERS 3%


UNATED NATIONS

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facts and figures

Monday, November 20, 2000 - 11:23 am
The real official figure done by the officials from italy representing the UN are as follows;


Isaaq 75%
dulbahante 10%
gidubiirsi 9%
Warsangeli and other small tribes 6%

Isaaq

Haberjeclo 30%
Haber Awal 25%
Garhejis 24%
Arab and other small tribes 18%

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dhul

Monday, November 20, 2000 - 03:06 pm
isaaq xinbadanaa? hadaad beenshegeysid been runkudhow baa lasheegaa.
dhulbahante 10%, habarjeclo 30% maaha xaqiiqdu.
the british figures 1900 2001
dhulbahante 60% 20%
land 40% 30%
According to this figures we lost both poeple and land. However no regret from our side. ilaah unaxariiso kuwii xaqailaahey udhintey.

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GARaDag man

Thursday, November 23, 2000 - 01:04 pm
TO dhul get the facts of the unite nations.

Dhulbahnte are fewer then what they were coz isaaq /haberjeclo has killed off for siyaad bare dabilifnimo)

so except the figurs and facts, u r only 10%

and isaaq are 75%, 30% of which are the REAL MEN yeah u guessed right HaberJECLO

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Somali

Thursday, November 23, 2000 - 01:28 pm
Jewish 43%
Athers(Real Somalis)= 57%

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Anonymous

Friday, November 24, 2000 - 07:18 am
the latest census figures:
Gadabuursi: 35%
Issa:5%
Darood:28%
IsaaK :25%
other: 7%