     Mursal | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 03:36 pm
Without considering the trivial things as Qabiil and Gobol, please tell your ideas, points of view of the adminstration of North-east regions of Somalia i.e. Puntland to the rest of us. Tell us what do u think Abdullahi Yusuf as a leader and let us know what u would say to him if you were able to talk to him. Do you think that Somali puntland can develop itself and progress without Abdullahi Yusuf as a leader? Do u think that Abdullahi Yusuf is a danger to the society and development of the whole region? who would you name as a leader of those regions if Abdullahi Yusuf has to go? I hope that you will refrain yourself of using foul language and that you will think beyond tribelism and tell us your points of veiw based on what you really think of these matters. In case you have not heard of it, Abdullahi Yusuf is currently the president of North-east regions of Somalia. I welcome your suggestions and comments and I leave you with the oldd Somali National Anthem"Somaaliyeey Toosooy... |
| UGAASKA | Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 04:15 pm
Aragtidayda Maamulka Cabdillaahi Yusuf ee ku dhisan qabiilku(uama jeedo Qabiilkiisa) wuu kasoo bixi waayey hawshiisii waxaan mudan in deg deg ay dawladdu isu casisho oo mid oo dorasho cusub la sameeyo.
Kow horata Cabdillahi waa nin aan qiimo jaban ku iibinany Puntland amaba an idhaahdo Daaroode.
hayeeshee Macangagnimadiisa Eebbe ku abuuray ayaa waxyaalo badan oo uu ku fiicnaan lahaa burinaysa.
waa mide Cabdillaahi uma tababarna maamul iyo socodsiin dawladeed oo wada tashi ku dhisan, ee waa askari(smart soldier) loo tababaray in uu midka ka sarreeya amarkiisa qaato isaguna uu amar bixiyo kaligiis sidaana ku fuliyo ciddii amarka sida uu yahay u qaadan weydana Ciqaabo.
Markii uu wasiirada magcaabayna uma uu dhisin(dhabtii)si aqoon ah ee wuxuu wasiirro ka dhigay dad ay isaga hore xulafo u ahaayeen ee ma uu dooran rag hawl qabad leh.(ogow waxaa jirey loollann aad u heer sarreeya intaan Puntland lagu dhawaaqin). taasina waxay keenatay in uu markiiba Mucaarad yeesho ragga uu doortayna ay noqdaan kuwo iyagu xoogsanaya.
waxaad arki mararka qaarkood wasiir Dubai ama ama JDibouti tegaya oo aan dadkii ka hooseeyey la socodsiinayn xafiiska ku dhaafaya wasiir kael oo ay saaxiib yihiin,muddo dheerna maqnaanaya.
waxa meesha ka jirana runtii waa dawlad lama odhan karo.
calaa kulli xaal aniga fikradaydii cabdillaahi iyo maamukkiiisuba waan Caydhiyey..
baddelkiisan waxaa iska leh dadka dhulkii jooga waxaanna filayaa in ay waayo aragnimo u tahay dawaladda Cabdillaahi Yusuf..
haddii la i wediiyo kee? dee nin somali ah baan ahayoo waxaan odhanyaa Adeerkay ama Walaakay.
Nabad iyo Caano.. |
| Mjlady | Friday, February 09, 2001 - 03:56 pm
Abdullahi Yusuf is an authoritarian and rigid man, who does not value the will of the people.
He has not accomplished any tangible thing for the people of Puntland. He has individualized the position he has and is incapable of separating his personal intersts from the interest of the office he holds.
The recent manifest the Cali Saleeban posted on somalitalk succintly summaries the shortcomings of this administration. In my opinion, they present valid points which sheds light on the failure of this gentleman's leadership.
It is time for change. But, my biggest concern is about the man who will replace Abdulaahi Yusuf.
Puntland does not need a puppet remote controlled from Mogadishu. Puntland needs a politically savvy and a just man, who will uncompromisingly put the intersts of Puntland on the top of his agenda.
ps:
(I have referred to the Cali Salebaan manifest, but I am not c.s) |
| Badhan | Friday, February 09, 2001 - 04:16 pm
" An authoritarian and rigid man." My dear lady, I always thought women prefer tough, rigid and well-groomed man. I guess you're not a typical woman. Are you sure that you're a 100% female, coz it is very uncommon for a lady to look for a soft girlish looking man, especially in the twenty first century?. |
| Tiinle | Friday, February 09, 2001 - 08:40 pm
I wonder what is wrong with this Brother.
Don’t he has anything else to talk about? In uu qofkii ina Yey Soo hadal qaada afka Jebiyo mooye.
I wonder why a gentleman from Badhan is so supportive of that man?
Brother your Honesty to ina Yey is an issue here..
I am definitely serious.
Another man from Baran(badhan). |
| Badhan | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 08:04 am
Tinle,
My brother, don't misunderstand me. I only defend Pr. Yusuf when a stinking Moryaan or Mooryaan lover tries show us the short comings of our leaders, but if Puntilander like yourself wants to see a change in our leadership, then I won't have any problem with it.
My friend what I defend is the integrity of the office of the presidency of Puntiland, and like I said many times even if you(Tinle) win the popular vote of my people, I will stand up for you and I will defend you just as equal.
I hate Moryaan lovers, coz they will never be happy until they see us completely under the mercy of Moryaans, and folks like me, would rather die than go back to the situation that we were in 1991.
As for where I came from, I don't think that is an issue now. I'm who I'm and nobody can alter that.
Puntilander forever. |
| MJlady | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 08:50 am
Baydhan, I am not going to stoop to your level.
Address the message not the messenger. What I prefer in a man is neither your business nor the topic of this discussion/page. Don't turn this page into a gender dialogue and don't attempt to patronize me. |
| Badhan | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 05:21 pm
MJLady,
It is strange that you keep talking about me disrespecting you, while on the same time you deliberately misspell my nickname. I don't want to jump onto conclusion, but I do have a feeling that you're a Mooryaan lover sis. And I'm sorry, but I refused to reason and discuss my beloved Puntiland's politics with traitors and Mooryaan lovers.
Puntilander who hates the old Faqashis and the new ones of the Caydh...... |
| MJLady | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 08:17 pm
Badhan, grow up please. The misspelling of your name was not intentional. Snap snap out of this conspiracy mentality, and phobia that you have.
You know that it is possible to debate issues without insults and putdowns. Try it sometimes. |
| MUCAARID | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 09:01 pm
You better stop this topic,you ain't get nothing-
Don't me make angry,i don't like when i become
Angey AAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BABABABABABA
BAM BAC bUSH BANAD GOW iyo GASH MA lEH NALKA DAMIYA HALA ISCUNO XAMAR XUMANA HALOO LAABTO,INA BOOYNA AYNU WAX U OGOLAANO INA YEYNA AYNU KA SOO HORJEEDSANO PUNTLAND AYNU GUBNO SAASBAA BALANTEENU
TAHAY HADEYNU NAHAYU...... MAXAMUD. |
| Dhahar | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 09:11 pm
To: Badhan and Mjlady..I hope that u will address to the questions asked. If there are issues u would like to discuss with each other or things u want to prove to each other why don't exchange ur mails and write ur personal attacks rather than corrupt this lovely forum page. I hope that both of u will realize that it is time for u to get ur acts together and let the rest of us participate the forum without interruption... I am Puntlander but i cant comment on anything as long as the war between Badhan and Mjlady is on. |
| TIINLE | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 09:35 pm
Dear Badhan I neither questioned your identity nor your rights to defend our Puntland. But is still mystery to me is the level you are defending this guy Ina YEY.
First, the creation of Puntland was good I idea for it is time. It was the first time I see my people see things eye to eye. And come to an agreement, which every body was happy to his share. Except the position of the presidency which fallen into wrong hand.
I am proud of my people to see them prospering more than ever while others are engaging war and looting each other.
But I for one whom believe the aim of Puntland has been fulfilled according to its constitution.
Let me be clear here. I know our people were humiliated in Arta conference and forced to accept what they do not deserve, but all this things have to be blamed by this Satan Ina YEY.
First he supported the Conference and later pulled out when he realized the position of the president is not going to be his. But we are obliged to support Arta and it’s Outcome for the sake of our unity.
Bro. If your people are prospering do you aware other brothers are starving whether their land are
Occupied or confiscated and I hope they will be better off if the Arta government succeeded where we puntlanders loosing nothing.
Once again you the right to defend the integrity of the office of presidency of Puntland but what about if the seat is occupied by Satan. Would ya?
Bro. if Satan have many faces ina yey is one of them.
TIINLE |
| TIINLE | Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 09:36 pm
Dear Badhan I neither questioned your identity nor your rights to defend our Puntland. But what is still mystery to me is the level you are defending this guy Ina YEY.
First, the creation of Puntland was good I idea for it is time. It was the first time I see my people see things eye to eye. And come to an agreement, which every body was happy to his share. Except the position of the presidency which fallen into wrong hand.
I am proud of my people to see them prospering more than ever while others are engaging war and looting each other.
But I for one whom believe the aim of Puntland has been fulfilled according to its constitution.
Let me be clear here. I know our people were humiliated in Arta conference and forced to accept what they do not deserve, but all this things have to be blamed by this Satan Ina YEY.
First he supported the Conference and later pulled out when he realized the position of the president is not going to be his. But we are obliged to support Arta and it’s Outcome for the sake of our unity.
Bro. If your people are prospering do you aware other brothers are starving whether their land are
Occupied or confiscated and I hope they will be better off if the Arta government succeeded where we puntlanders loosing nothing.
Once again you the right to defend the integrity of the office of presidency of Puntland but what about if the seat is occupied by Satan. Would ya?
Bro. if Satan have many faces ina yey is one of them.
TIINLE |
| Kacaan-diid | Sunday, February 11, 2001 - 07:21 am
Undoubtedly, Abdullahi Yusuf is one of the greatest Somali leaders in this era. He is a man of dignity, and full of caurage. He was one of the first somali leaders (if not the first) to fight against the unjust and misuse of power committed by the former brutal regime. He refused to accept humilation, and stood up to fight for his people, when most of the Arta faction politicians were kow-towing to the dictator.
Under his leadership and guidance, Puntland has developed from a no man's land, with its people in abysmal despair, to a functioning, democratic state with promising future and full of hope.
If I would get the chance to meet this great man, I would take my hat off to him, and thank him for his long service to the people of Puntland.
I am not worried of what will become Puntand when Abdullahi Yusuf leaves office, as Puntland is fortunate to have a pool of candidates all able to fill his shoes, who can do the same or better job than he did.
Our people love to hate their leaders, and I sometimes ask myself who will be the next victim to lead Puntland. God help us, if we are going to subject the same kind of hostile and harsh treatment, Abdullahi Yusuf has endured, to the next man or woman chosen to lead us. I still don't know who that next victim will be. |
| omari | Sunday, February 11, 2001 - 09:23 am
to badhan you are good suporter to mr abdulah .
you dont know this gay he will gona was you tommorow .
let me tel you some thing dont suport he is very crezy destroyer .
du kender ikke ham hvis du giver ham i handnen pas på du kender ikke ham.
omari |
| Gurey | Sunday, February 11, 2001 - 10:06 am
Cabdillahi Yuusuf uma qalmo in maanta looga doodo Netka ma nin fiicanbaa mase waa nin xun,sanadkan 2001-da waana nasiib darada ina haysata wax ka mida, ogow nimaad bari ku baran wayday bil kuma baratide!.
Isku soo duuduuboo Ina Yeey i dhaafi aniga. |
| jidali | Sunday, February 11, 2001 - 12:18 pm
hey guys and hoes
would u consider the next leader to be SIILANYO after he replaces Cigaal??
would doyou say to the idea of Somaliland puntland unity??
or would you rather settle for the blood suckers in mogadighu?
in my opnion on this issue is that, abdulahi yusif has done his part in terms of leading the puntland people, but he doesn't seem to convince me as an able leader, and specially being a warsangel.
ABDULAHI yusif is for MJ, and hasn't done anything constructive for WR/G or Dulka ppl |
| Badhan | Sunday, February 11, 2001 - 02:52 pm
Jidali;
First, I don't believe that you're the person that you claimed to be, because a real Warsangli man would never have wanted to live under the Isaaqi oppression. However, I must give you the benefit of the doubt and try to answer some of your questions.
President yousuf will go down the history as one of the greatest Harti leaders who ever walked on the face of the earth. Dammit, don't you see how much those monkeys hate the man.
As a real Warsangali man, the president gets my full support, and until such time that we get another die hard Hart leader, he will always get my unconditional support.
In my opinion, if we work with him and stop the nonsense, he will not only safe Puntiland, but he will even help those helpless monkeys in Mogadisho..
You mention about the possibility of us uniting with Sakhraanlanad, it will only happen when they come to us and accept to unite us under our own terms and conditions.
And as for Mr. Silaanyo, Iidoors are all the same to me, and believe me we're all the same to them.
Puntilander forever...
P.s There are many good Puntilanders who are not Hart, such as Leelkase and Arab salah.I cosider them as my brothers and sisters. |
| Yey for a second term | Monday, February 12, 2001 - 04:32 am
It seems a waste of time for you Puntlanders to be questioning President Yusuf.
Tell me how was it like in the early 90s, when we where being chased out of our homes by the men who now claim to be leaders of Somalia.
TIINLE, you are a hypocrite, in that you would have us support this ARTA debicle. It seems you support the devil, that is ABDIGASIN, the communist turned born again muslim, or have us beee dectated by Xasan Abshir Buub and the security guard authoraterian president of Djubuti.
Abdullahi Yususf is the greatest leader since the late great Abdirashid Shermarke. He stood up to Barre and Aydeed, and now he will stand up to the Arta group who are waiting for the day Puntland is destroyed.
Peace TO YEY and Puntland |
| KARKAAR | Monday, February 12, 2001 - 06:52 am
Hadhaco INA YEY ilaahay haka qabto PUNTLAND jajabka iyo khilaafka uu dhexdhigay Ina YEY iyo kooxdiisa Ilaahay haka qabto Kooxda Carta Illaahow naga qabo MUNAAFIQIINTA iyo danaysta yaasha.
PUNTLAND HANOOOOOOOOO LAATO |
| HILAAC | Monday, February 12, 2001 - 06:58 am
TO: JDALI
war anaa MJ ah wax uu nooqabtay Afguduudna mahayno ee waxaad tiraahdaa AFGUDUUD HARTI waxna umma qaban.
anoo Majeerteen ah ayaa raba inuu tago AFGUDUUD qofdhaamana meesha yimaada oo wax kayaqaan maamulka ee uma baahnin ASKARI waalan
Dhulbanhante iyo warsangali iskadaa CUMAR MAXAMUUD buusan wax uqan ASAGA uun baa wax isku qabtay kana lacagaystay meesha. |
| Anon | Monday, February 12, 2001 - 07:28 am
Jidaali makhnuud, how dare you call people "hoes".
Laxyahay orodoo uu dhiigo iidoorka aad uu naageeyneeyso. |
| amiin | Monday, February 12, 2001 - 08:10 am
to badhan cabdulaahi waa adiga u hiilinaaya mar walba ee ma waxa tahey naagihii ithopian ee intuu
xabsiga ku jirey uu wasi kuwii uu ka dhaley .
malaha saasaan ugu hiilineysaa .
magaran karo si kale ood ugu hiiliso.
sababtoo cabdulaahi ood taageerto waxaan u arkaa isku goynta harti iyo nshoobaro aad meesha kawado ee anigu adaan kaa shakiyee kawaran.
mideeda cabdulaahiga aad sheegeyso oo ad leedahey wax buu qabtey muxuu cumar maxamuud u qabtey maxauuse reer mahad u qabtey hadadse run sheegeyso aqoonyahan cumar maxamuud waa buuxaye mu wax u ogolaado .waa adiga ninkaas qoriga noloshiisa oo dhan wata qoriga leh waa taageersanahaye maxaadse ku taagewertey ..
1 ma,aqoon uu leeyahaa .
2 mahooyadaa uu kaa dhalaa
3 mahaduu xukunka katago ayaa cumar maxamuud oo dhan naar galaayaan ama laweynaa meeley baxeen.
4 ma reer mahad ayaad leedahey ayaa laga yaabaa iney meeshii uu cismaan maxamuud ama sayid maxamed ama siyaad bare ama ceydiid ama moorgan
ama ina salaad boy ama cumar jees
ama cismaan caato ama dr cabdi qaasin ama king kong ama ibraahin cigaal ..
ayaa laga yaabaa inuu heersare gaarsiiyo.
marka duqa wax sheeg aad ku taageerto .
odeyga waalan oo raabiyada qaba ama mad cow deceaskaba aan iraahdoe tell me some thing .
or good reason you can suport this gay..
go to hell give answer..
yur ow yahuu.. |
| Badhan | Monday, February 12, 2001 - 08:44 am
Amin, how old are you?.In where I live, it is illegal for an adult guy like myself to chat with under age children....So, I'm sorry, but until you show me a prove of your age, I would have to say to you.. Waar naga amu...Yaa walatul mooryaan lovers..Xagaad nagal qabsatay yaa ciyal.. |
| Jidali | Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 09:18 am
Anon
way iigaadhey, and i can call ppl whatever i feel like ur monkey MJ.
come suck me black rocket.
nacnacda meesha kala aamus u b*tch and get ur ass licked by MJ |
| Hagi | Saturday, February 24, 2001 - 05:20 pm
I think that everybody will have a shot at the chair. Back to back 2 terms is enough for Abdullahi Y. and that should be the legal term for everyone who will be the president of Puntland until a national unity government is formed in the country. As to who will be the next man in power, I don't know..that will be a question whose answer only lies with the people of Puntland.. Votes will be cast and votes will be counted and decide the next Puntland President. For all the good things and bad things he has done Abdullahi Yusuf will be veiwed as a leader of Puntland who has fully served his time. Let us give a shot for the rest of the community, that is u and me. |
| omaari | Saturday, March 03, 2001 - 09:00 am
to jiidali .
hadaba hadashee yaad amaantey waad geftey ee dadka raali gali hadii kale qiro inaad ciyaal suuq edeb daran tahey.
afka ku sheeg wax san duqa. |
| NY | Saturday, March 03, 2001 - 09:05 pm
To Anon:
u in London pal?.. u know that nick rings a bell..just let me know if u r in the UK...
My thoughts of Abdullahi Yusuf: He should be gone. It is time for him to be hospitalized for either a mental case thing or a liver rejection..
bye all...New Yorker |
| Friend | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 01:07 pm
Is anything true about the rumour that Abdullahi Yusuf has a pig liver? "Beer Doofaar duureed". and that is why he is acting like this. Wanting more and more.. u know to eat and destroy. I think if someone donates him a human liver then may be the guy will act like a human and start thinking about taking care of himself and giving a chance other Puntlanders , u know especially me lol.
I can be president to the Somali "Puntlanders", avery good president and u know why i can be a good leader? because i have my original human liver.......No pig liver...chop chop..
bye bye |
| aamiin | Tuesday, March 06, 2001 - 09:06 pm
to badhan adeer ciyaal meesha ma joogo ee daa taagerada ad ina yey siineyso waan naqaan ina yey waa maxamuud saleebaan destroyer .
and mis the point. |
| Buurtinle | Monday, March 19, 2001 - 06:16 am
U guys r right..the presidence of the region is not for a single tribe or for one region but the entire tribes and regions of North East. I think it is time for "us" to c what other regions and tribes...does not matter the size of the tribe can bring to the table. Hey yo!!!!Abdullahi Yusuf..take five for now.. |
| Wiil burtiÑlë | Monday, March 19, 2001 - 09:41 am
to: caalo qaatayaasha
waxaan marka hore salaan qadarin mudan u dirayaa boowahay Badhan, ilaahafka ku ma qabto.
tan labaad waxaan halakan kula hadlayaa caalaqaaatayaasha muqdisho shilimaadka yarka ah looga soo diray oo doonaya inay dhul iyo maamul soomaali wayn o dhan nooga masayrsan tahay raba inay iib geeyeen.
to:naagta la baxday MJ lady
ma la hubaa inaad tahay MJ lady mise waxaa reer abti iyo reer awoowe kuu ah reer qaar madoobe. mase waad u dhaxdaa.
to:caala qaatayaasha kale.
ordoo shilimaad kale xamar ka soo qaata oo mudaaharaad kale isku daya, markani walee odoyaal nakala dhexgalayaana ma jiraan e sharciga wuxuu qoray ayaa laguugu qaadi. |
| Truth | Sunday, March 25, 2001 - 09:08 pm
To:So-Called Friend
Pigs nowadays my friend have some very essentail parts like the liver or the kidneys useful to human beings. And ur urgument that Abdullahi Yusuf should go because he was transplanted a pig liver is nonsense for two reasons.
first nobody is sure if he has the Liver, second anyone would do if his or her live was somehow in danger, it is the proper thing to do. Abdullahi yusuf will stay in power for as long as the pple in those regions want him to stay.. be it a year or two or indefinately... |
| siigaale | Monday, March 26, 2001 - 07:12 am
To: Badhan
lol,,, u calling some body " underage" look at you,,,, the only think u can is ti insult others,,,, tell me what would u a chieve with ur insult? u call us helpless ppl " mogadishu ppl,,,,,,, but as far i'm concern, ur you'r self helpless and u crying very loudly, so my advise to u is be a man and deal it like a man not as a ••• or a guy,,, a man has get to do what a man has get to do,,,, |
| Tired | Wednesday, March 28, 2001 - 06:49 am
Big time disapproval:
History repeated itself! First it was SSDF that was destroyed by Abdullahi and his ignorant sub-clan members, not Omar Mohamud but Reer Mahad. I guess we forgive him prematurily and gave him our trust and love once again. Again he coughed it up!
Know there is distrust between every major clan in Puntland and anomosity between clans grew more and more everyday. Osman Mohamud is killing each other because of Abdullahi's master minded divide and rule agenda, Omar Mohamud is also killing each other, per Reer Mahad killing two guys in Galkacyo, and yes, Reer Mahad is saying once again, Qorigayaga, Baaburkayaga, Dhulkayaga, Maamulkayaga, Madaxdayada, Doqonimadayada, Jaahilnimadayada, and so on and so forth.
This should be clear message to all of us and As Mr. Gurey said before, Nimaad maalin ku baranwaydid, sanad kuma baratid.
Abdullahi Yusuf, aka Af-guduud will be same no matter what and Juhalas from Caduun will continue to ruin the image of beloved Majeerteen people.
This should stop ASAP! Guys, we deserve better management from our head of states than we got from Abdullahi Yusuf.
Tired! |
| Badhan | Wednesday, March 28, 2001 - 08:43 am
So, what exactly are you expecting us to do? My friend, the man was elected by the majority of our people if that makes any sense to you. So until the next election, I suggest you to shut up or put up with it.
You said that I'm tiered, but frankly I'm more sick and tiered than you by reading all the trash that were posted by useless disgruntled individuals like yourself who could not achieve any thing for themselves as refugees in North America and Europe.
Obviously, the welfare cheque is not enough and times are tough for your kind, but reality is we are not that stupid to believe that by sending to our country more lazy and undiscipline characters such as yourself who will do any good for our people.
Stay right where you're and don't make me call the social services department in the country you live in, coz I'm definitely not in a good mood tody.
Puntilander forever........... |
| Tired | Wednesday, March 28, 2001 - 09:16 am
To: Badhan;
You have to be either stupid or illiturate to think that way.
Listen, first and for most every one is entitled to their own opionion and I am not saying you have to agree with anybody else, but don't disulision other's opinions.
Secondly, two wrong things don't make right. This administration has failed miserably and it is all because of Abdullahi Yusuf, the man on top. And sadly it is not the first time that this has happen to Abdullahi led administration, it has became a path of failure. Know if we, the people of Puntland raised our voice and anger toward this administration, we are trash right?
Unfortunately this has been known to Abdullahi Yusuf and all of his supporters. Why don't the good Harti's of the region, and certainly the MJ's don't support Abdullahi is because he always surrounds himself people who need their minds examine like you.
I never questioned Abdullahi's initial election. I think it was fair and we trust him for a position that he is not capable of carrying. Now that it is clear he is not the man for the job, we have the right to look for replacement. I am still against Carta. I am still 100% behind Puntland's effort to become one of the better places to live in Somalia and to became a good sample for all Somalis. But there are those that you are one of them who don't understand how we should look for a better administration.
The answer is not to fight in clans. It is not to go and look for support in Mogadishu. It is to be honest, loyal, and to care for the people of the region. Once you divide, and make one-on-other hostile to each other, there won't be any progress. And I am sure there won't be any improvement from Abdullahi's part. Puntland was much more stable than it is now: Do you agree? People had much more respect and love between one on other: Do you agree? Know all that is gone. Why? Because of Abdullahi Yusuf.
He needs to go-away. Once again he tore our harts apart by bringing his narrow minded approach to rule Reer Mahad over all MJs and this time the rest of Hati's.
I am glad there are more goodness in this society than there is badness and that is why I am not encouraged by your comments: Just typical Afguduud supporter.
PUntland will live though. It is gonna get stronger and better. We will go back to our homes and bring our skills back to our community. For those of you who needs their heads examine, I hope you go away with him too!!!!!!
Badhan; I didn't surprise your comments. This is not first time you and I disagree on something. Look DisgustedbyBadhan!!!!!!!
You are half-a man.
Peace-Puntland |
| Badhan | Wednesday, March 28, 2001 - 07:38 pm
Tired, Disgusted or whatever;
I'm not interested in taking part of your chitchat conversations about reer Kholuf, Mahat and reer Xirsi; however, your unprovoked attack toward the entire clan of the president does indeed say a lot about your education, character and your intelligence.
Also, I must remind you if you have any brain left in your fat head, that leaders don't come down from trees, and therefore, each and every president belongs to a certain tribe of our people, and folks like you will always be attacking the current and the future presidents and their tribes.
The simple reason for this is that you're either mooryaans who would love to see my people in the same situation as yours, or you're puntilanders who are too dumb to understand what is at stake, our existence and our dignity as entire Darood nation.
Furthermore, I have never met the president, and I couldn't tell you whether he has a red mouth or green mouth, but I would definitely take it as compliment if you call me a typical supporter of him.
You certainly can't come up with constructed criticism of the president, and I suppose you want to strengthen your argument by describing the skin color of his mouth in such ill-mannered fashion.
Was the region better before the creation of Puntiland government? .I suppose it was better for those of you who enjoy lawlessness and anarchy in this twenty first century, but for the rest of us, Puntiland administration is and will be absolute necessity for our modern society.
In addition, I'm probably the least likely person who could be defending president Yosuf, since it's very uncommon among Somalis to give their opinions about certain leaders independently and without prejudice, but then, you can take my support of him which ever way you like. In fact I could care less.
The simple logic is that I would rather support my leader than either my uncle/abti, Egal or the Caydh gentleman for obvious reasons.
Finally, believe it or not I would defend you just as equal if you were the legally elected president of my country, but from the way you conducting yourself, I doubt that will ever see it happen.
Puntilander forever.......................................... |
| Tired | Thursday, March 29, 2001 - 04:36 am
Badhan;
Bashing is part of the game and if you don't understand it, that is your problem. Also, Afguduud isn't a secret, it is Abdullahi's name, just Badhan is one of your names. For the real issue though, I am not saying that there aren't bright people from Afguduud's sub-clan: in fact there are many, but they seem to be similar or at least have similar characters that some other well known tribes have. They seem to think that only Abdullahi is the saviour and that strong military personal is who can save us. I disagree that. Military might be important in its own terms, but I think Abdullahi could do fine job as Defense minister in Puntland than president. The reason that Abdullahi isn't good president is, for one, he is very unstable. How many groups has he been part of since he came back to politics in the mid 90s. He couldn't have sit with Aided, ina Jees, and the Mareexaan guy, then next thing you know he is up there with them making them look like geniuses. I understand that politics is strange game, but god, you have to have some class and somekind of values for who you are making friends with. To me the reason that Abdullahi is doing all of these Mooryaan like things is he is basically as classless as them.
You said something about me being naive about Reer Mahad and that I will complain from anybody else. That is not true. I made clear that I never questioned Abdullahi's initial election. I am only making it clear that all that is wrong need to stop and in order that to happen, their creator has to go. Abdullahi brought all of these interior trouble. There wasn't Osman Mahamud killing Osman Mohamud: There wasn't Omar Mahamud Killing Omar Mohamud: There wasn't the amount of distrust that is out there right know. There wasn't the amount of hostility that exist. And you are talking about progress being made. What progress? Is your pain in-drugs or you have been away from home so long that you can't distinguish the right from wrong?
The current Puntland administration had done nothing but to loot for what small pride left in our tanks. And it will continue to be that way unless we stop the madness before it spread beyond control.
FYI: Don't use Mooryaans as scapegoots. They have no interest for Puntland and its problems: it is our own problems and Abdullahi created!!!
peace-Puntland |
| Tired | Thursday, March 29, 2001 - 04:36 am
Badhan;
Bashing is part of the game and if you don't understand it, that is your problem. Also, Afguduud isn't a secret, it is Abdullahi's name, just Badhan is one of your names. For the real issue though, I am not saying that there aren't bright people from Afguduud's sub-clan: in fact there are many, but they seem to be similar or at least have similar characters that some other well known tribes have. They seem to think that only Abdullahi is the saviour and that strong military personal is who can save us. I disagree that. Military might be important in its own terms, but I think Abdullahi could do fine job as Defense minister in Puntland than president. The reason that Abdullahi isn't good president is, for one, he is very unstable. How many groups has he been part of since he came back to politics in the mid 90s. He couldn't have sit with Aided, ina Jees, and the Mareexaan guy, then next thing you know he is up there with them making them look like geniuses. I understand that politics is strange game, but god, you have to have some class and somekind of values for who you are making friends with. To me the reason that Abdullahi is doing all of these Mooryaan like things is he is basically as classless as them.
You said something about me being naive about Reer Mahad and that I will complain from anybody else. That is not true. I made clear that I never questioned Abdullahi's initial election. I am only making it clear that all that is wrong need to stop and in order that to happen, their creator has to go. Abdullahi brought all of these interior trouble. There wasn't Osman Mahamud killing Osman Mohamud: There wasn't Omar Mahamud Killing Omar Mohamud: There wasn't the amount of distrust that is out there right know. There wasn't the amount of hostility that exist. And you are talking about progress being made. What progress? Is your pain in-drugs or you have been away from home so long that you can't distinguish the right from wrong?
The current Puntland administration had done nothing but to loot for what small pride left in our tanks. And it will continue to be that way unless we stop the madness before it spread beyond control.
FYI: Don't use Mooryaans as scapegoots. They have no interest for Puntland and its problems: it is our own problems and Abdullahi created!!!
peace-Puntland |
| Badhan | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 07:44 am
Tired;
Like I said before, I don't want to go into your bed time stories of Omar Mahamud killing Ali Mohamud and Isman Mohamud killing Hassan Mohamud, but I can tell you one thing the State of Puntiland has a lower crime rate than any other Somali region including Sakhraanland and about 90% of African countries, according to the UN mini-report about Somalia of this Feb.2001.
On top of that, I have been there, and had the privilege of traveling from Erigavo to Gakacyo, and all I sow was peace, love and respect, so I suggest you to go back on your notes and do little bit of research before you start spreading your nonsense on the net.
Also, it's rather silly for you to suggest that the president is behind every small local crime, whether it arises from land disputes, or simple robbery that is gone wrong. This is shows that your motive is quite different from what you would like us to believe, but I guess time will tell.
Anyway, I found very disturbing with your whole notion of class and classicism. No offence intended, but it reminds me of a girl I used to date who had the habit of blaming on others' lack of class for her inability to hold onto perspective marriage partners.
Back to the issue at hand, class has no bearing on politics, specially Somali politics. Maybe this has something to do with your limited knowledge on the subject, but the job of every leader is to go after the interest of the people he represents only, even if that means sleeping on a dead dog's wet and rotten skin. Ever heard of "Dantaada Harag ey na waa loogu seexdaa".?
Furthermore, it's ridiculous for someone like you to tell the people of Puntiland what their president is good at. They have already chosen him to be their leader and not their foreign minster, and I think you should respect the will of the majority of the people.
I'm sure terms such as democracy, will of the people, mandate and law and orders don't mean anything for people like yourelves, and it's why I believe that we Somalis will never be able to solve our differences in a peaceful manner.
In addition, I'm not denying that we're having difficulties economically due to the Arab ban of our life stock from their markets, which by the way we share with the rest of Somalis wherever they're and for that matter many other African countries;however, I have no doubt that we will survive through this just the way we have survived through in 1990ths and the hey days of Arta group in 2000. Remember what doesn't kill you makes you strong.
So, will the folks like you please, stop winning, and accept the facts that there are no miracle performers whether it's Mr. Yosuf or someone in the future when it comes to our very complicated Somali politics. Bite the pullet, and ask what you can do for your country like Mr. Kennedy said rather than breaking my heart with your boyish/girlish noise. |
| Tired | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 09:00 am
To: Badhan;
I think I am gonna stop discussing with you this matter since you aren't man enough to believe the reality and accept other's opinions. Before I do that though, I am gonna pass little Poetry from HADRAAWI. I like this piece 'cause it is talking about "MAANGAAB" who isn't capable of presenting the truth and accepting defeat as it relates to his opinions. I have seen numerous discussions on the net in which you spoiled many good discussions with your non-sense approach of defending very unresponsible administration. Here is HADRAAWI'S say to you and the likes:
Garashadu hadday ruux la tahay , suu u garanaayo
Garaadkiisu suu qabo haddii, loola garan waayo
Gardarruu u qaataa ninkii , yidhi garaadkiise
Xaajadu markay gobo'da iyo , gawda culus joogto
Keligii nin gaashaantay wuu, gola ka fuulaaye
Gadaashiisa uun baa durbaan, laga garaacaaye
Labadiisa geesood ma jiro , ruux ku gelayaaye
Arrin lalama guulee warkuu , gura yidhaahdaqye
Dadka wuxu u gacan haadiyaa, qof iyo gaarkiise
Gendi iyo dhukaan buu qabaa, cudurro guumeede
Gogol wuu ku shaashoonayaa, loo gudboonyahaye
Sida goray fallaagoobey buu, Gooni joogyahaye
Kol hadduu nin mawd lagu gudbadey, tiisa uga guuro
Xil uun buu guddoontaye ka baydh, gudashadiisiiye,
Ka galgaley habaar-qabe halkuu, gool ku cuno weyne
-------->
I hope you learn better ways to participate interesting discussions without being the childes person you accused of me being.
No dating stories are necessary in this forum--Please!!!!
Peace-Puntland |
| qonjor | Friday, March 30, 2001 - 07:13 pm
tanu waa iga tijaabo, waana so wadaa ///???? |
| MAGABADE | Saturday, March 31, 2001 - 03:36 am
TO: BADHAN
waxaan u maleenayaa
BADHAN inuu meesha uyimid lawo wax uun
1 TAAGEERDA INA YEY IYO 2- MUCAARADNIMADA CARTA, ma oga labadaaba inay ka weentahay jiritaanka Puntiland.
Markii laga hadlona waxa danta u ah Puntiland iyo dhibaatoyinka heesta iyo kuwa uu maamulka keenay iyo kuwa uu wax ka qaban waayey, QAAC INTUU ISKU QARIYO AYUU WUXUU KULA GALAAYAA CARTA iyo wax aanmeesha loo joogin.
Badhan dhoormar baan arkay asaga oo ka hadlaaya dhibaatooyinka Xamar ka soo raacay dadka Daarood aad baan ugu bogay una qiirooday sababtoo ah wuxuu sheegayo oo dhan anaa in dhaheega ku soo arkay waan wanaagsan tahay sida uu ula socdo ileen waxaas wax la ilaawi karo maaha, laakiin waxaan aad u layaabaa markuu layimaado taageero indhala'aan ah oo uu ku taageeraayo CABDULLAHI YUSSUF.
Taasna wax fiican maaha oo taageerada noo caas ah mafiicna oo waa tii hawiye Qarka kariday say udaba taagnaayeen Caydiid.
Maraka Badhan saxiib waan fahmaa markaad ka hadashid arimaha siyaasada laakiin waxaad iska deesaa inaad indhaha ka xiratid dhibaatada Puntland ka imaan karta haduu sii joogo ninkaan.
Bal mar isku day inaad dhex dhexaad ka noqoto arimahaas adoonan DIFAAC walaa WEERAR galin, tani waxaan kuugu sheegayaa sababtoo ah waxaa layiri walaalkaa waa loo hiiliyaa 2 mar
1-(markuu gardaran yahay oo runta ayaa loo sheegaa)
2-(markii laga gardaran yahayna waaloo hiiliyaa)
marka aniga runtaan kuu sheegaaya isku daa walaal WEERKA AAD INTAAS ku jirtid waxaan filayaa inaan CABDULLAHI YUSSUF aniga kaa badiyo, waana aqaan wuxuu yahay mana qabo in halkaan laga sheego, laakiin igama suur towdo inaan ku difaaco khaladaadkiisa.
so please change your act bro:> |
| Badhan | Saturday, March 31, 2001 - 09:40 pm
Tired;
No, I haven't read Mr. Hadrawi's "Cantarabaqash," coz I didn't think it's worth my time. Another reason why I didn't bother reading it was that in my book, for one to qualify as poet one must be a sober person while he is composing his poems and not intoxicated grass consuming animal who talks endlessly for the sake of talking.
Don't get me wrong, you can admire these people as much as you want, but at least have the decency to cote us real poets who were not narcotic dependent, such as A. Dhuux, Q. Bulxan and contemporary Somali poets like Khalif Sh. Moxamud.
Magabade;
Thanks for the advice. I'm short of time now, but I should be able to clarify my position with regard to this matter in my future postings. |
| Kaliyan | Thursday, April 12, 2001 - 07:55 pm
Badhan,
How much do you get paid per hour supporting Ina Yey? Does he even know of your never-ending loyalty & dedication?
Hey, it's one thing to be a patriot, and it's another thing to be blind. The guy is a sole looser, look at the mess he's in now. He's lost it, the best thing he can do now is to step down & safe the dignity of the people of P-land.
To begin with he doesn't have a good record, he was arrested in Ethiopia for conspiring against Somalia, does that make any sense? But nevertheless, the people of P-land accepted him & appointed him as a leader. That was a lifetime ago, what did he do for P-land? Very little, P-land was stable to begin with, so he didn't bring any stability.
The man is an egostistical, self-absorbed, narcist, who cares little about his people. He proved it when he started cracking down on anyone who questioned his authority. He's arresting P-land elders and important figures such as ugaasyo & so forth. He's anti-anything or anyone that he thinks will replace him.
The man is unstable, he can not make up his mind, look at the Arta meeting, first he wanted it, but when he found he wasn't going to be a president, what does he do? He pulls out & declares war on anyone that even utters the word "Dowlada KMG." That's pure dictatorship right there, why does he have to follow the same road as many before him such as Ina Barre? And now he has his waist deep in Ethiopia's behind, what is that all about? He's kissing the same men he fought with almost for a decade, all because Ethiopia said so. And just this week, he's asking S-land if he can join the P-land admin. with theirs, what on earth is he doing?
The man is a disgrace, and anyone who thinks otherwise, can find out the truth for themselves. He even signed contracts with numerous ships to dump radio active wastes in the N.E. Somali sea. There are countless people whose livelyhood depends on fishing in that region, and he is destroying it. That's really sad. And the money he gets from these companies? He puts it in his own account, he's not even building schools or hospitals for the people.
Open your eyes, Ina Yey has to go ASAP. He's a failure!! |
| Badhan | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 05:20 pm
Mr. Jaalle,
And who did you say you're?. A Puntilander???? Yeah right.. My friend, This topic is only for Puntilanders. Thanks.... |
| Kaliyan | Friday, April 13, 2001 - 11:37 pm
Badhan,
It's sad how pathetic you can be. I never claimed to be from P-land. I was merely stating what the topic asked. And FYI, I will post & I do post as much as I can in the P-land forum, so whachya gone do about it? |
