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     | Monday, September 11, 2000 - 09:17 am salaamu alykum All Somali brothers what is your problems? All the other Nations in the world feel proud if thier women are well Aducate, cuz they know that the Nation base from the Family and Family base from the MUM, but our Somali Nation don,t think that way...and I just wonder why? If you are a Somali Educate women all you gett is discouregment from your fllow brothers.....and when it cames to {Shukaansi}...all the Somali man think about, well she is Educate women..so she is not going to need me...so I better look 4 somne one who depend of me! and that is why many well Educate Somali man get married uneducate Somali women....and then their children end up uneducate. Am i wrong? somali sis
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| | Monday, September 11, 2000 - 09:40 am somali sis i dont think you should worry about that right now fist get an education and then see if you still believe what u told us now. peace
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| | Monday, September 11, 2000 - 06:39 pm Somali sis; Damn ! this woman is straight from jaxiima. She can talk three days in a row. Hey tell you what ? you are right. I for one, get scared of when i see one of the so-called "educated". I see you wondering why. Simply, i say they come with their problems. As soon as they start going to college, they develop some kind of ego and turn to be egotistic bitches. And they start braging "yeah, i F*cking educated". I see you wondering why do that. Well, little b, i guess it is something only known to Allah. But i guess also they simply do that because they were inferior who got the upper hand. Somalis say "Nimaan talin jirin hadduu taliyo nimaan tagi jirin baa taga". It is not their fault. It is human nature that if low lives got rule, they turn everything upset down. If you want personal experience, i 've been there and saw the whole damn saga with own eyes. Once, i married to this Network guru that dreams bits and bytes of the computer. I tell you she was nerd and in the middle of the night she would go in her sleep giving tech support to unknow-s and un-seen-s maybe jini and aliens). She was making fivety above a year. After we have been together a year, i just wished if i would talk to my mom and ask her to grab one cagaboorley straight from the jungle and put her the first flight from that deserland of ours--somalia for me. Do I see you wondering why i felt this way. For i can't be specific to talk about my kid's Mom, i would only say "our egos colided". She was one of those so-called "strong women" but all i knew was her strengh and ecducation were my obstacles and blcoking my way out. From kitchen, money management, to bed everything seemed to her power struggle. I decided to give up and told her "ok from now on, you make every decision and leave the hell alone. will you ?". And after couple of months she was there accusing me i don't give a damn anything goes in the family affairs and said "why am i stressing out?. After all, this family is not only mine". In short, my wife's education brought me only debate, arguement and headache , like you --somali sis. And shame for i become 'yes man'. And her $$ costed mine. Although our salaries was close, i couldn't do what i wanted when in fact asking her a single question about how money was spent could cost me a week-long argument. I reached a poin where i couldn't decide my financial plan and just playing woman's role in that damn hose of ours. One may say " Alipapa your case is only one case out of thousands". Well, that could be true but the fact that when these women got education and money, they will turn everything upset dowm also remains true. So yes, somali sister cagaboorley is better than you because simply cagaboorley listens and behaves properly. Tell me who is the man who can come near you now. You nearly scared the hell out of every man up here. And you know what? for you info it is not only somali men who scares the upfront and so-called strong women. Do you know that white men are now marrying eastren women-chinese women in great scale?. why ? simple, apart from they are petite, those women are also so submessive that every race's men crave for them. Bottom line the less talkative,less mindgames, less play-the-game and do-what-is-told the woman is, the better she is in Alipapa's world. Ali==the papa of that kid
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| | Monday, September 11, 2000 - 07:09 pm How truthfull. Our problems stem from the fact that educated Somali women usually act an western women whose record of keeping families and staying in marriage is all too well known. U see my freind, its lack of convictions and all that too much freedoms that brought the western family the instability that it suffers. Principles and some convictions are needed my all mankind, Religions have serves these purposes in life for all the great nations of the earth; study the Asians and the Hindus and even the Arabs and u would find they enjoy much more stable men Vs women relations than most Somalis do. We are quick to adopt other pples cultures. Indian women who are highlly educated would still dress as do their fellow Indians in rural India , We obviouslly have no other deterant than Islam.Viewing our good religion as nothing but an Arabic tradition and following those that Allah have warned us has left us in a mess. Finding a truelly Muslim sis (educated or not) would open your eyes and u will realize its it (Islam ) and only Islam that we truelly need.
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| | Monday, September 11, 2000 - 10:27 pm well said kamal.
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| | Tuesday, September 12, 2000 - 07:12 am Well said alipapa...
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| | Tuesday, September 12, 2000 - 08:49 am I can understand were the sister is coming from but I also see a little problem with the way bro alipap is thinking. The point is I'd prefer an educated woman to be the mother of my kids, as she would understand them better from every aspect, but only one that uses her education wisely. I may add that the opposite could be true about men who treat their poor women badly because of their superiority in educ., ..etc.. You can never make a general statement about women or men for that matter. So, bro and sis, don't let your bad experiences blind sight you.
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| | Tuesday, September 12, 2000 - 09:39 am Runtii markaan aqriyay qoraalkaan waxaan jeclaan lahaa inaan idin weeydiiyo talo maxaa yeelay taladii adiga kaa maqan waxeey ku jirtaa walaalkaa, waxa aan jeclahay inaan idin weeydiiyo waa sidatan: waxaan mar dhow is baranay gabar soomaaliyeed oo aan ka wada sheekeeysanay xiriir iyo inaan mustaqbal wada samaysano, runtii waxaan jeclahay inaan marka hore iska barto qofka intaanan hoowsha gudaha loo galin si kastaba ha ahaatee gabartaas walaasheey ah oo ah qof waxbaratay, anigana heerka waxbarashadeeda waa ilaa dugsi sare iyo labo sano oo aan bartay wax quseeya administrationka marka waxaan ka dareemay gabartii ineey i rabto hadana aysan rabin qof damiin ah waa anigee marka ayada loo fiiriyo walool anigu aan isku arko ineey waxbarashadeeydu heer dhexe tahay si kastaba ha ahaatee waxaa ila qumanaatay inaan qof loodkeeyga ah amaba ii dhow aan iska raadsado anoo fiirinaaya waxa imaandoona beri kamaalin hadii aan qoftaas guri isla tagno, mida kale hadii aan ka jawaabo su'aasha ah maxeey wiilashu gabdhaha wax bartay uga cararaan ama uga baqaan waxaan dhihi lahaa abaa iyagaa ku tusaayo wax aad uga cararto taasoo aan ula jeedo qab weeni aan loo baahneeyn ofcourse waan jeclaan lahaa ineey qofteeyda ahaato qof wax baratay ilmuhuna aad beey ugu wanaagsantahay hadii hooyadeed ay tahay qof waxbaratay waa hadii loo isticmaalaayo sida haboone, waxaan kusoo gabo gabeeynlahaa hadalkeeyga aana jeclaan lahaa inaan idin weeydiiyo fikradiina hadii aan qaldanahay iyo hadii kaleba inkastoo aadan la socon sheekadii na dhex martay.
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| | Tuesday, September 12, 2000 - 10:12 am David Frankly speaking i would preffer uneducated woman than educated one. Educated one will always compete with u, even if she seems a reasonable woman. She will make most of the decision,cause she believes that she has the money and the power, like the man does. She will be away from home most of the time and kids will missed her a lot cause of her work . Kids will be taken to homeday or night cares ,from their they will be teached other idealogies, Unislamic ones.They spend too much money, more than the acceptable limtit.
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| | Tuesday, September 12, 2000 - 11:13 pm I agree with bro.kamal as he said the problem is not the education but its the religion and character of the woman if she is educated and same time she knows about islam that is good coz she knows her rigths and rigths of her partner.
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| | Wednesday, September 13, 2000 - 01:14 am Kamal, I couldn't say it better. Good on you brother.
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| | Wednesday, September 13, 2000 - 04:04 pm To All Brothers: Please don't forget behind every successful men there is a women (sister, wife or mother). The problem is not the education per se. They are many uneducated women who can be very difficult to live with. So the question remains is it the education or not? I think it is the character and the upbringing of the individual that is most important and therefore, what education does is to enhance your thinking that is if you already had the basic core values in life. Fowzia
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| | Wednesday, September 13, 2000 - 09:39 pm fowzia; I agreed with you but is it possible that education can corrupt good charactered one?. In other words, is it possible that they develop ego when they educated?. hassan
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| | Wednesday, September 13, 2000 - 11:09 pm Fowzia i agree with you 100% ..i couldn't say it better..
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| | Saturday, September 16, 2000 - 10:40 am su'aasha marka hore waxay tahay aqoonta lagu qeexayo gadha aqoonta leh iyo midaanan lahayn waa maxay?waxaanse anigu u malanayaa in aqoonta soo bandhigaha mawduucaan uu ka wadaa in ay tahay aqoonta wax soo saar,sida;sharci yaqaanad,takhtarad iwm.hadaba aqoonta wax soo saar waa aqoon ku jihaysan abuurid dhaqaale qoyskana waxay u faa'iidaynaysaa horumar.laakiin haddii gabadha aqoonta wax soo saar yeelata ay is dareensiiso in ay bedesho ama dood cusub ka furto aqoonta dhaqan iyo diineed ee bulshada ay ka dhalatay leedahay,markaasna abuurto in ay ku dhaqanto habdhaqan kale oo gaar u ah qoomiyado kale waxay ila tahay taasi in ay keenayso nacayb iyo ka cararid laga cararo gabdhaha noocaas ku sifooba oo aanan kala saarin farqigaas.
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| | Saturday, September 16, 2000 - 04:55 pm Hi Hassan. From what I undestand, are you trying to say that education can corrupt an individual therefore, changing their personality. If a person can be corrupt by education, I strongly believe that person did not have strong moral ethics. Remember education just shapes your thinking and provides you with the right tools to make sense of the world you live in. Fowzia
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| | Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 05:53 am Ali PAPa.....looooooool u r a charecter but really, althouth I felt 4 u....in a way you deserv every think that happen to u.....if I was ould have kicked long A go....becouse of your attitude... that all am saying to u. Kamal I agree whit you if Education used wisely ....is not wasted otherwise, is not that useful how many ppl who r well aducated who have been lost......I mean Education whit Islam is the best Education. Fowzi well said br I am a women who love to have Enough Education.....so I don,t think it will Change my Attitude.....but you have to except that it is the guys who have this problems ....Cus if my man is well Educated I would feel good....at least I can Communicate whit him ...much better than JAAHIL so I agree when u said Education.....don,t change the Character but , just increase their way of thinking and reasoning what is happening around them peace+Love
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| | Monday, September 18, 2000 - 12:38 am He tani waa dood mac. mahadsanid Somali sis. waxaan ku darsan lahaa: haddii gabadha ay wax barato heer sare ah, oo dhaqaalaha qoysku kor u qaadi karta wey fiicantahey, ma xuma. Taasi wexey kalliffi kartaa in dhaqaalahaas qoyska ku soo saa'idey mid ka go'an carruurta uu noqdo, waa haddey carruur leeyihiin, taasu waa mid. Marka hore waxaa is weydiin leh maxaa Naagta maxaa looga xarrimey in ay guursato labo nin?? aniga wexey ila tahey in naag aysan shaqo iyo qoys aysan isku wadi karin, waayoo ninka madaxda u ah waa in ay marxabeyso oo si wanaagsan ula shaqeyso. Maadaama naagtu ay bishii mar ay caado u joogto, jirkeeda iyo maskaxdeeda sidii la rabey uma shaqeynayaan. Shaqada wexey kala soo kulmi kartaa stress (daal farabadan) gurigiina waxaa laga rabaa in ay hooyo noqoto. Ninkeedii iyo carruurtii. Caafimaad ahaan iyo mujtamac ahaan uma wanaagsana hooyada in ay labo shaqo oo muhiim ah ay isku qabato. Ugu dambeyntii iyadoo qoysku uu dhibkaa iyo stresskaas ku jiro haddii ay hooyadu tahey midda sida qaldan isu tustey in ay islaweyni iyo madax adeyg wax barashada ka qaadey, taasi wexey sababtaa bur-bur qoys. Taasna ma oggola Islaamkka. Islaamku wuu dhiirri galinhayaa in ay dumarku wax bartaan, laakiin waa in ay ahaato wax barasho mucayyin ah oo haweenku ay ka bixi karaan, mujtamucuna uga faaiideysan karo. Hooyadu in uu carruur Eeebbe siin doono lama huba, saas darteed waa inay wax barataa oo xirfad taqaan oo ay mashaqada dhaqaale uga dabaalato. wasaalaamu vcaleykum
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| | Tuesday, September 19, 2000 - 10:08 am To; for those guys who don't like educated Somali sisters Guys get a life. I have a doubt that any of u guys have gone to the college or have a mental capacity that can understand the value of an educated woman. There may be some educated Somali girls who have behaved in awrong way, but generalazing means you guys have a low self-steem and a calcified brain that has no rooms to understand how important (and luck) is to get married a girl. To:educated sisters: Siss don't worry about it, there are plenty of real educated brothers who are there for u. it is just a matter of choosing awrite one.
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| | Friday, September 22, 2000 - 11:23 am I don't scare of Them, I just don't mingle with Them would that be a fair statement....lol To go back your Question: I prefer educated woman at least one who can read and write and if she got Higher education is plus but to define Education it will have so many meaning. what Education are we atlking about? Life in general can be Education Religious man/women are consider to be well Educated. Those who study Science are consider to be well educated as well even some society worship them. Art as well . Camel chasers and goat milkers are well educated too....lol so what Education are we talking about? To me Education is Good but it can be use Bad way or Good and it depend the individual no matter the gender they belong. Again I don't feel threaten well Educated somali girls I even love to Debate sadly to say but those somali girls who never opened a book in their life will think if you talk to them you need their Body rather than a simple talk so Word Up those who got the higher Education Bye
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| | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 09:09 am Looooool@Reermiyi may I say u are most honest br. judging from your respond, I d,nt thing yu are Reemiyi at all....and if ree miyi whit no education think that way, well I rather be whit him...that those so called Educated man who seems, some how confused.
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| | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 08:19 pm I agree with somai-sist, that,not only somalis, it is almost all over the world even the most developed countried in the world, that men, whereever they are, they are scared or have respect with educated women. My somali-sist's point, which is, wat I understand that, somalian men disrespect educated women or think that she is too much is wrong We love educated somalian women,and we want them, we need them; Remember the african proverb: "IF U EDUCATED A MAN U EDUCATED ONE PERSON, IF U EDUCATE A WOMAN U EDUCATE FAMILY"
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| | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 03:44 am Mr. Writer well said br hope more guys like u and Reer miyi are around .. by the time I am ready to look for Mr right.......lol From on i should not have Genaralise all the guys. Cuz it seems there is a some light the end of the Chanel.........lol take care all
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