     Ahmed | Monday, October 02, 2000 - 06:31 am
Waxaa la yaab leh dawladda ETHIOPIA waxay leedahay dhulkaa waxaa ladhahaa ''SOMALI STATE REGION''waa GOBALKA SOOMAALIYEED ee fadaralka Ethiopia.ONLFna waxay leedahay dhulkaa OGADENIA ayaa magaciisa runta layiraa.Waa yaab ee mayla yaabantiin???Waxaad moodaa dawladda Ethiopia in ay ka Soomaalisan tahay nimanka la baxay ONLF.Waqtigan xaadirka ah qabiil kudagaalgal ,Ethiopia oo aad moodo in ay Soomaalida sidii hore layskaga soo dhawaaday ma waalan yahay ninka qadiyadan hadda soo hurinayaa??''OGADENIA'' wax weyn ayaa ka qaldan ee Soomaalaay ONLF talo siiya . |
| Anonymous | Monday, October 02, 2000 - 08:21 am
Ogadenia anaa iska leh.Kanaxoow nafta waa Ogadeen ayaa iska leh OGADENIA. |
| PURE OGADENIAN | Monday, October 02, 2000 - 02:19 pm
ahmed, walaal waad qaldantahay Ethiopia waa cadowga qofkasto oo soomaali ah amaba muslim ah arintane siyaasad ayey kawadataa iyo iney wadanka ogadenia marin habaabiso, dada reer ogaadeenyana sidaas waaka aqli badan yihiin kana siyaasad badanyihiin.
arinta kale, walaal maalin walba wiil ogaadeen ayaa naftiisa uhuro oo xabada xabashida kudhinta sidaa awgeed dhulkan ayagaa udhunta dhibkeeda iyo dheefteedana leh, hadii soomaali walaalnimo nagu raacdu iyo hadii kaleba mujaahidiinta reer ogaadeenya waay dagaalamayaan ilaa qofka ugudan beeyo ladilayo.
KUWAA WAARIDKOOD IYO WALAALKOODBA WAAYOO WAYRAXAAYA MA'OGTAHAY? |
| godey | Monday, October 02, 2000 - 07:22 pm
war iidoortan waxey rabaan? waryaa tiina kufilaada oo igadaaya dhuusadiina.
iidoor gaaladadu muxuu wehel oogadhegtaa horta?
anaga iyo amxaaro qori baan waxku qeybsaneynaa ee ethiopia waxey rabto ha'iisheegin aniga. cidi raacdana sidi cabdi majiid buu dharkiisa ku xaaridoonaa. no matter where you hide your ass. |
| Dirdhaba | Tuesday, October 03, 2000 - 10:28 am
Itoobiya iyo ONLF Jabhadda Xoraynta Ummadda Ogaden waxaa Soomaalinimmo u dhaw Itoobiya .Sababtoo ah waxay ogalaadeen in deegaankan Soomaali yahay.Qabiilooyinka wada daganina wadaleeyihiin. |
| KOSHIN | Tuesday, October 03, 2000 - 05:15 pm
BY ANY MEANS MY VIEWS ARE NOT DISTORTED TO CLAN POLITICS. I CAN ALWAYS RESPECT DIFFERENCE OF OPINION BY MY FELLOW SOMALIS IF IT IS CONSTRUCTIVE AND REASONABLE TO THE TRUTH. I SEE SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS HAVE NO BASIS FOR NEITHER OF THE TWO.. NUMBER ONE, AHMED, AND DIRDHABA HAD BOTH EXPREST SIMILAR VIEWS REGARDING THE NAME OGADENIA, IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT THEY SEE THIS NAME MORE LIKE A DIVIDING FACTOR RATHER THAN UNION ONE, AND THAT LET THEM TO BELIEVE CURRENT ETHOPIAN COLONIAL IS MORE PATRIOT IN RESPECTING THE SOMALI ORGIN BY RE-NAMING WHAT IS WELL KNOW TO THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY OGADENIA TO SOMALI REGIONAL STATE. I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THEIR CONCLUSION. THE NAME OGADENIA IS NOT THE PROBLEM, THERE ARE COUNTRIES THAT ARE NAMED AFTER ONE MAN, SAUDI ARIA IS ONE OF THEM, IT WAS NAMED AFTER BIN SAUD,AND THEY DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS BEING PROUD OF WHO THEY ARE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE UNITED STATES, MOST OF THE CITIES HAVE INDIAN NAMES, LIKE NEW MEXICO, ARIZON, UTAH, COLORADO, CALIFORNIA, EXT. DO YOU KNOW WHY THEY DIDN'T CHANGE THOSE NAME TO MORE AMERICAN NAMES! WELL THE POINT IS WHO CARES THE NAMES. WHAT OGADENIA NEEDS IS PEOPLE WHO WILL JOIN THE STRUGGLE TO FREE THEM SELVES FROM BARBARIC EMPRIRE. THAT COUSE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO DIE, DISTORY PROPERTIES, AND INDISCRIMETLY IMPRISONING PEOPLE WITH OUT FAIR TRIAL. SINCE, YOU EITHER OF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO JOINING THE STRUGGLE TO HELP INNOCENT CIVILIANS GET THEIR FREEDOM, YOU MUST BE RESPECTFULL NOT TO INSULT THEM. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO YOU DIRDHABA DO YOU KNOW WHO IS REPRESENTING YOU IN DIRDHABA? THAT IS AFAIR QUESTION RIGHT! YOU GUEST IT MY FRIEND, THE LAST ELECTION WAS WON BY AMHARS, AND OROMOS. COULD YOU ALSO TELL ME WHY IS DIRDHABA IS NOT DECLARE PART OF WHAT YOU CALLED SOMALI STATE? LET ME GIVE YOU HINT, IT IS TAKING OVERBY THE OROMOS AND AMAHARS. WHY DON'T YOU CREATE YOUR OWN LIBERATION FRONT,IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF OGADENIA. DO YOU KNOW WHO CAME IN YOUR SUPPORT DURRING THE OROMOS DISTRUCTION IN DIRDHABA? IT WAS THE OGADENIAS WHO HELPED YOU KICK THEM OUT. OGADENIA IS FOR ALL SOMALIANS LIVING IN OGADENIA. MY FINAL COMMENTS IS DO YOU THINK SOMALILISM EXITS TODAY? IF SO WHY ARE WE KILLING EACH OTHER IN SOMALIA, AND WHY ARE YOU SO HANG OVER BEING PART OF OGADENIA WHEN THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR YOUR SURVIVOR. PLEASE TELL ME WHO ELSE IS WITH US IN THIS STRUGGLE? IF NOT PLEASE DO NOT CREATED PROBLEMS BETWEEN PEOLPLE OF COMMENT GROUND AND INTEREST.
THANK YOU. |
| DirGuy | Tuesday, October 03, 2000 - 06:11 pm
To ruuxa la baxay DirDhaba, magacaagu waa gaf iyo caay maloogan ee meel la fariiso. Ka fiirso, lama caayo qabiil weyne. Waxaa Jira magaalo la yiraa Dirirdhaba sidoo kale qabiilka ugu ween somaliya Dir. Marka saxibow iska badal magaca xun ee la bax magac toosan . Waa hadaad waxgarad tahay hadii kale wiglada tumo. |
| FREEDOM FIGHTER | Tuesday, October 03, 2000 - 06:38 pm
DHALINYARO OGAADEEN WAY DHAARATOO DHAWAAQA DHULKOODA AYEEY DHIBSADEEN.
GUMEYSI DIID. |
| 5TAsomaliwyn | Tuesday, October 03, 2000 - 10:42 pm
waxaa wax lagu farxa ah in aad aragto qof somali ah oo fikrad ka dhiibanaya ra'yi lasoo jeediyey wuxuu doonaba ra'yigaasi ha ahaadee, isaga oon caytmaynin cidnana wax u gaysanaynin sida KOOSHIN oo kale. Kooshin thanks alot br
Dadku wuu kala fikrad duwanaan karaa isna mucaaradi karaa, laakiin ma'aha in la iscaayo ama af-lagaado la'isu gaysto sida ay sameeyaan dad badan oo meeshan wax ku qora intooda badana aad moodo inay ka imaadaan dhinaca waqooyiga somaliya, markaad eeegto lahjada iyo wax ay ka hadlayaan, waa marka dhinaca siyaasada laga hadlayee
Marka waxaan idinku waaninayaa naftayda iyo tiinaba inaan ka waantoowno xumaanta iyo isnaca aan cilmiga iyo xikmada ku dhisnayn. Walaalaha reer Hargaisa iskadaaya Ogdenia nacaybka waxaad rabtaan labaxa kama hadlaan walaalihiina reer Ogadenia magacyadiina iyo arimihiina goonida idiina ah idinakana faraha kala baxay arimaha somalida reer ogadenia. Ogenia waa qaran ma aha qabiil, ee ogaadeen ayaa magac qabiila. Teeda kale xataa hadii ogaadeen loo bixiyo dhulka qofkii wanaag doona halgan ugama hadheen. So, sidaas u kala saara arimaha af caytamana ninkiisuu ku yaalaa.Waad mahadsan tihiin |
| SUUBAAN-BALAL | Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 03:50 pm
I don't care what the dogs in hargeisa may say. Ogadenia belongs to those who shed their blood for its freedom, this is undiscussable, unthinkable and unchangeable.
iidoors should mind their own bussiness. they simply have no experience of abundance or happiness, may be their damn thoughts limit what they see. by choosing new thoughts, they can see the same circumstance in new ways. they are totally haunted by the fear of Ogadens, I hope iidoor will take an entirely different attitude toward Ogadens, rather than fearing them. My posting aims to help iidoors meet their own bias, with knowledge about their prejudices, they can go behind that and discover ways to respect others. By the grace of Allah Ogadenia will be liberated, Ogadens are proudful, freedom and peace loving society, whatever it costs Ogadens will fight till we get full freedom.
We shall win Allah willing. |
| DHABOROOBLE | Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 05:11 pm
walaalayaal waad mahadsan tihiin dhamaan fikradaha aad wadatana waykala duwanyihiin ceebna maha in fikrada dadku kala duwanaaTo.
aniga waxay ilatahay ogaadeenya oo ku dagaalgasha ONLF in ayna waxdhibaata lahayn sabta oo ah markii layirahdo USC waxaad garan in uu yahay ••••••,SNM •••••, SSDF MAJEERTEN,
marka hadii aad leedahay wadanka ayaan dagaa mana ogoli ogadeenia la imoow magac halgankana ka qaybqaado kadib markii laxoroobo ayaa laga wada hadli wixii kale.
hadii kale saaxiin anagu waxaan ku dagaalamaynaa ONLF waayo anagaa og dhibaatada gumaysigu nagu hayo
OGADEENIA HA XOROWDO AMIIN AMIIN AMIIN |
| DHABOROOBLE | Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 05:21 pm
WAXAAN LAYAABANAYAY WAXA SOMALINET AY UGAJEEDO IN QABIILADA QAAR MAGACOODA LAGU QORI KARO MARKA DADWAYNUHU FIKRAHA ISDHAAFSANAYAAN QAARNA AAN LAGU QORIKARIN, MAHAL QABIILBAA ISKALEH SOOMALINET. |
| Koshin | Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 05:51 pm
Thanks for your comments 5tasomalyn. It is important to respect each other regardless of difference of opinion. We need to listen what other people are saying with out basing own biases. That is the only way we are going to learn from each other. If the conversation turns to be an insult then, there is no reason posting it. We can't help what clan we are born to, that is the will of allah, but we can co-exit in this short world. One think that stirs me in circles is why are we always concern about our clan, instead taking more profound dialogue. I feel for somali people where ever they might be. The world is forming into comment ideology, and comment interest. Look at Europe, they would like to come together and form strong union. Look at American companies and the merger mania. It difficult to believe 7milliion somali people can't sit down to resolve thier problems. We are blessed with bad learders who we never question their leardership. It is worth to die for the interest of one man. My fellow somalis, wake up and lets make peace.
take care. |
| abdi dheere | Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 05:59 pm
DHABAROOBLE, MEESHAN WAXAAN LAGU QORIKARIN SADDEXDA QABIIL EE SOOMAALI UGU WAAWEYN INAAD WAX ISDABA MARISO MAALEE SIDA, DAAROD, HAWIYA IYO ISAAQA. HADAAN SI SAX AH UQORO WAXAEY NOQON SIDAN, •••••••, •••••• IYO •••••.
MARKA SIKALE HA'UMALEYNIN WALAAL. |
| 5TA Somaliwayn | Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 07:06 pm
Akhyaarta markale waad salaamantihiin
Ninbaa laga sheegay aduuuuun waaaaaaaa ladaaaaaaali!!!
Waxaan kawadaa ninka leh ONLF ethiopia ayaa uga dhow somalinimo soo lamid ma'aha nin yidhi YUHUUD baa islaanimo uga dhow IMAAMKA XARAMA SHARIIFKA!!!!
KOSHIN sxb waad ku mahadsantahay fikradaada saliimka ah kuna salaysan somalinimada iyo wadaniyada waxaana rajaynayaa inay kugu dayan doonaan kaana baran doonaan sida doodaha looga qayb qaato cayla'aan, kuwa af-lagaadada mooyee wax kale meesha la imaanin haba u batataan iyo kuwa xabashida ka jecel somalidee, waa sidaan ka dhadhansaday qoraalkoodee.
Midakale waxaan u sheegaynaa walaahah reer ogadenia way idin taageersantahay somalida wanaagsan marka laga reebo reer Hargaisa, iyo berbera, waadna xoroobeeysaan mardhow inshaa Allaah qaatana magac Alla magacaad rabtaan. |
| DHABAROOBLE | Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 08:43 pm
ABDI DHEERE AAD BAAD U MAHADSAN TAHAY WALAAL,SIDA WANAAGSAN EED IGA JAAHILBIXISAY ARINTA AAN KOR KU XUSAY.
HALKANA WAXAAN LEEYAHAY, SOMALINET HA IGA RAALI AHAATO.
OGADEENIA CIDII U DHIMATA LEH GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULL GUUUUUUUUUUUL
THANKS BRO. |
| JABHAD | Thursday, October 05, 2000 - 07:00 am
ONLF, GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL. |
| Shabeele | Thursday, October 05, 2000 - 07:17 am
Dhammaan dadka doodan ka qayb galay waad salaamantihiin.Hadaan lawada xaajoon lama ogaan karo waxa uu aaminsan yahay qofka kale ee Soomaaliga ah ee aad isku Deegaanka tihiin.Waxaad moodaa magaca Ogadenya kuwa sida aadka ugu dhagani aanay tixgalinayn ama rabinba qabiilooyinka kale ee waddankaa la dagan.Anigu dhulkaas ayaan kasoo jeedaa.Aadna waan uga xumaadaa markaan maqlo adduunkaa noo yaqaan.waxaad moodaa waxa ku qarsoon islaweynaan qabiil.Shalayba markaan dagaal galaynay ,1977kii ,waxaan ku caan ahayn SOOMAALI GALBEED.Magacani ayaa ka haboon .Qabiil gaar ah ma darajaynayo.Qabiilna meesha kama riixayo.Ceebtuu leeyahay??Waa la badali karaa haddii laga haboonaado.Ninka KOOSHIN la yidhaa waxay ila tahay wuu fahmay asalka dooda .Waxaad moodaa in uu yahay nin dad kale oo aa raalli ka ahayn magacan inuu kala dooday.Runtu mararka qaarkood way qadhaadh tahay.Ogadenya Somaalida inala dagan dhulkaa ee qabiilooyinka kake ahi ma rabaaan.Hadaan rabno midnimo magac inoo wada dhaxeeya halagu halgan galo.Kooshin waxaad tidhi magacu dhib ma aha.Sacuudiya yaa u bixiyay magaca?Si magaciisa kor uu ugu qaado ayuu Boqorku ugu bixiyay.Kuwa kale ee magaalooyinka USAna wey jiraan.Laakiin Soomaalida magacan qabiilku waxaad moodaa waqtigan xaadirka ah cudur ayuu noqday.Inaga oon wali xoroobin hadaan magaca wadaagin sideen u wadaagaynaa dheefta xornimada markaan xorowno.Hadaad ileedahay Qabiil kale ma dago dhulkaa doodaadu waa sax.Walaalayaal OGADENYA waxay xaqiraysaa walaaladeena kale ee dhulkaa aan wada dagno.Halgankana waxbay u dhimmaysaa.Soomaalida walaaladeen ee kale ,kuwa jumhuuriyadda iyo Jabuuti sideen taageero uga heli karnaa hadaan magac qabiil wadano.War runta aan isku sheegno ninka Ahmed tan gubtay mala waa nin aan xaqiraynay.Axmadoow hays garab dhigin Itobiya iyo ONLF.Kalina ma tihid.Hays xumayn.Itoobiya waa cadaw.Dadkeenii way qayb qaybisay.Magacan OGADENYA boqorkii Xayle Silaasi ayaa aad ugu duray dadkeena .Dantiisuna waxay ahay sida maanta aad arkayso inay qaar ku doodaan Qabiil kuma salaysna.Ogadeenya =Dhulkii Ogadeenka.Ninna kama qarsoona tani .Ogadeen waa qabiil Soomaali ah .Somaalida inta jumhuuriyadda ku nooli badanaa waxay arkeen askari guracan .Dadkaas raacatada ah ee dhulkaa dagani "Ogadenya"waa dad aad u wanaagsan oo culumo ah.Dhaqankii runta ee Soomaalinimadana aad ayay ugu dheer yihiin.Qabiilooyinka kalana aad ayay u tix galiyaan.Waa dad deeqsi ah,oo shaqo aaminsan.Qabiilka Ogadeen waa qabiilka ugu weyn qabiilooyinka halkaa daga.Laakiin ilama aha in magacan Ogadenya uu yahay magac loo wada dhan yahay. |
| 5TA Somaliweyn | Thursday, October 05, 2000 - 07:50 am
Marka hore salaan dhamaantiin marka xigta waad ku mahadsantihiin doodiina maalmahan danbe habsamida u socota waxaadna moodaa nin hada in akhyaara isku soo hadhay, marka 3dexaad war niman yohow bal magaca uun yaan lagu meeraysane (Ogadenia) horta aan dhab u wada hadalee hala helo wax muuqda oo aan ahayn ONLF iyo taageerayaasheeda yn oo wadankaa u dhaqdhaqaaqi. Sxbayaal ragbaa dhiigoodu daadanayaa maalin walba waana ONLF iyo taageerayaashooda, aaway dadkii kale maala arko, rag geed iyo guryo hoostood fadhiya ayaa af madhan lasoo taagan. Somalidu waxay ku maah maahdaa gaalka dil gartiisana sii. Ogadenia waa magaca saxda ah ee loo yaqaano wadanka qabiil ogaden ladhahana uma baxsan magaca somali, ogadenia Djibuti, NFD intaba gaalaa bixisay.
Hadii ay jirto cid ay dhibi magaca ogadenya, hala arko hana ka qayb qaataan xoraynta danbaa loo qaaday wixii dadku u batee, wax badalana hala imaadaan waala soo dhaweyne
Laakiin arintan waa oohinta Orgiga kawayn, ma aha magaca badal waa jiro ka wayn ninkii jirana inuu daawo doonto ayaa ku haboon kii doonan waaya miyaa; waxaan leenahay nahay hadaan nahay 5ta ninkii dhulka jooga dhurwaagu ha qaato haduu kari waayo xabada haku googooyo
Mid aan wada ognahay way jirtaa waana wax wanaagsan in xaqiiqada laga hadlo la'isu garaabana, somalidu way iswada dulmidaa siiba reeraha lafaha waawayna ah sida ogadenka, Dirta, Hawiyaha, Hartiga, way xaqiraan lafaha yar yar ee somalida ah lana dega deegaamada somalida meel walba ooy tahay taasna waa dhib guud oo jira ee ku gooni ma aha ogadenia ama somali galbeed qudha xataa lafaha waawayn ayaa dhexdooda isa sii xaqira waa wax aan wada ogsoonahay loona baahan yahay in laga gudbo. |
| Ahmed | Thursday, October 05, 2000 - 02:39 pm
Walaalayaal waad salaamantihiin.Qof kastaa qaladkiisa inuu saxo ayaa wanaagsan.Anigu markaan lahaa Ethiopia iyo ONLF Soomaalino tee u dhaw,sheekada halaga qaybgalo ayay aga ahayd.Halgamayaasha iyo akhristayaashaba waan u gafay.Dad ladulmay oo la cabudhiyay magac kasta ha la baxaane waxaa waajib igu ah inaan taageero.Ujeedada iyo goolka waxba kama qabo.Waa xornimo sidii loo gaadhi lahaa.Waxaase qaldan dariiqa loo marayo.Hal qarni iyo dheeraad ayaa dagaal xornimodoon shacabkaasi kusoo jiray.Adduunka intiisa badani Isticmaar ayuu ku jiray waqtigii shacabkaasi halgamo kala gadisan kusoo jiray.Maantana South Africa xattaa waaxor.Maxaa anaga na inkaaray?Qaladkeenu waa maxay?Madaxdeena ha laga fiirsado.Waxii qalada ha laysku sheego intay goori goor tahay.Nooc kasta oo halgan waaan soo galnay.Halgamadii hubaysnaa halkan kuma soo koobi karo.Waxaa jirtay in shacabkaasi marnaba aanay magaca" Qabiilka Ugu weyn"ku dagaal galin.1977kii kabacdi markii Ruushka iyo xulafadiisu inakala jabiyeen ,niyad jab weyn ayaa Soomaali oo dhan ku dhacday.Dawladdii Soomaalia burburkeedeedii ayaa bilaabmay.10sano kadib waad aragtaan maanta heerka Soomaali taagan tahay.Shacabkii dhulka "OGADENYA ama SOMALI GALBEED ama GOBALKA SOOMAALIYEED"sidoo kale niyad jab iyo dhaawac xun ayaa ku dhacay.Dhaliyaro badan ayaa jaha wareer ku dhacay.Sababtii fashilka keentay ayuu ninba meel saaray.Cadhadii Siyaad ayaa dad badani dusha ka saareen.Jabhadda Soomaali Galbeed xor ma ahay ayaa la yidhi.Runtiina dawladda Soomaalia ayaa gacanta ku haysay.Dhalinyaro qiiraysan ayaa is urursaday .Waxayna ku dhawaaqeen jabhadda ONLF ee Ogadeenya.Laba Calina waxaad moodaa kuma wada hadlin.Ninkii yidhaa war magacaan inama midaynayaba waxaa la yidhaa ,maxaad kale oo aad haysaa?Ama dagaalka nalagal ama nadaa!!!!Aniga waxaan leeyahay: 1.Xabbadda Cadawgu 'Itoobya'ma taqaan kanaa reer hebal ah.Soomaali iyaga waa u Soomaali.2.Dhallinyarada maalin kasta magacaan u dhimanaysa anigaba waa kuweygii,ninna igama xigo.3Alaa iskeen baday,kaama maarmo anigu.Sababta oo ah OGADEN halgan uu ka maqan yahay ama aanu hormuud ka ahay meel gaadhi maayo.Waa lafdhabarta iyo wadnaha iyo halbawlha carrigaa.4.Magaca addunku inoo yaqaan waa inaan nahay shacab Soomaali ah.Ogadenya markaan nidhaa waxay tusaysaa oo kaliya qabiilinimadeena.5Dhulkaasi dad wuu leeyahay.waxaa ka maqan habayn iyo xoogga shackaa oo la mideeyo.6 Si loo mideeyo magaca midaynayaa waa muhiim."Ogadenya,Soomaali Galbeed,Gobalka Soomaaliyeed"guul gobanimo iyo midnimo Alaha ku garab galo.Dadkiisana Alaha iswaafajiyo.Waa dad waligoodba ul iyo diirkood ahaa. |
| Koshin | Thursday, October 05, 2000 - 04:10 pm
I would like to thank AHMED for his courage to come out and admit he was wrong. I am a firm believer that we are entitled to make mistakes, but what is more important is our wiliness to learn from those mistakes. I am taking by what started to be even exchange is developing into full-scale discussion. I can't thank you enough for all of you whom are participant of this topic. It is important for all of us to really explore our feelings toward each other. It seems to me that some of you had made an excellent argument on why you don't feel part of the name OGADENIA, some of you based on this relatively understandable and logical barrier that this name con not be distinguished from the OGADEN tribe. You are absolutely right on this, the second argument which is well received is the name was giving by emperor Haile Salaize. The bottom line on this two argument is you don't feel part of this name infect it isolates you from being member of given territory. My follow peers let me assure you that as a member of the Ogaden clan we do understand this. There have being numerous intellectual exchanges between the Ogaden clan regarding this name. We by no means intend to isolate the same people whom we are trying to defend them from barbaric colonial. By any means this name is well recognized throughout the world. The name brand is well recognized through out the world, and it is important for our people's struggle. For example, Somali republic has recognized territorial put forth by the United Nations, and for Ogadenia to call western Somalia would violated that agreement. Secondly, Human rights violations are constantly taking place in this area, and for the world to recognize that this is taking place in Ogadenia rather than in Somali. If you like another out of the blues example, do you know why Hussein Adiid inherited his father's role? One of the think that I could think of is they wanted a recognizable name can keep his father's activities. I have no intentions to move our discuss into Somali plat form, nor did I not find a better example to give to you. The bottom line is we are aware of this name is cousins a lot of our brothers and sisters a lot pain. For time being please bare with us, this name is only being used to reach our ultimate goal of freedom. We will insha'allah join Somali weyn soon after.
Thank you. |
| AMIIN | Thursday, October 05, 2000 - 07:46 pm
dhamaantiin waad salaamantihiin waadna ku mahadsantihiin sida caafimaadka qabta eed isu waydaarsanaysaan fikradiina qiimaha wayn,
waxaan si gaar ah u mahad celinayaa kooshin oo shaaca iiga qaaday waxyaabo badan oo iga daahnaa,waayo anigu waxaan ka imid gobolkan SOMALI GALBEED AMA OGAADEENYA kolba kaad doonto dhehoo,run ahaantii anigu ogaadeen maahi imana dhibayso in gobolka loogu yeedho OGADEENIA,waxaana magaca ugu diidaynin dagaalkii 1977 waxaan oran karaa wuxuu ahaa dagaal ay somali u dhantahay,laakiin waxaan cidna diidikarin dagaaladi 1964 iyo kadib markii laga soo noqday 1977 waxa dhaqdhaaqa iyo dagaalka waday waxay ahaayeen ogaadeen,
waxaana aminsanahay hadii uu xoroobo in cid iga leh ay jirin.
waxaan halkan waxayar ka oranayaa dhamaan dadka waxka daga gobolka in ay taageeraan walaaladood talo iyo tabar hadii kale ay kadaayaan qalbi jabinta.
sidaa iyo nabad |
| gumaysi diide | Friday, October 06, 2000 - 06:06 am
axmaaro bal horta somali maryooleey hanala aragto waxaad ka dheeftaana waxba hanaga siinina hadaan nahay umada reer somali/galbeed ama Ogadenia |
| Qabiilyare | Friday, October 06, 2000 - 09:30 am
I wish we could have more discussions concerning this topic which is very important to all Somalis.The last guy,Gumaysi Deed,you are wrong when you said only Ogaden tribe was fighting for freedom before /and during 1964.All Somalis where united.Nationalism was soo high.And after 1977 there were different kinds of struggles going on.You can't start armed struggle for the sake of it .Please don't insult our martyrs.Mr Ahmed and Mr Kooshin both of your explanations are valid.We need similar discussions .To strength the struggle there should be different views.Waxaad moodaa sida badanaaba jirta marka dad aan isku qolo nahay aan wada sheekaysano,wax kasta waan isku raacnaa.Marmar qaarkood reer hebal ayaan wax ka sheegnaa .Waa laysku wada raacaa.Qofku mara muddo badan dad reerkiisa uun uu sheekada la wadagana wuxuu u qaataa arrimaha qaarkood in sida Ilmaadeeradii iyo waxay aaamisanaayeen dadka kalana aaminsan yihiin.Taas waxaan ugala jeeday dooda noocan ee dadka kala qabiilka ah,kala magaalo ahi in ay caafimaad qabto.Mr Kooshin,some of your reasons for Ogadenya ,i think are; the history,legal aspect and not to cause cofusion with proper Somalia.These are good reasons.But they are all external.I think we should really satisfy the people whom we are fighting for.The Somali people in the concerned region .ONLF will be stronger when other tribes of the area are included.We know the name excludes anyone who isn't from Ogaden tribe.Unity is stregth.Believe me it will be impossile to change the name later. Guul iyo gobanimo, sinaan,iyo caddaalad to our people. |
| gumaysi diide | Friday, October 06, 2000 - 05:11 pm
To: Qabiilyare
sxb waxaan filayaa inaadan sifiican u akhriyin waxaan qoray iyadoon dhamayn xataa 2 sadar marka akhri oo fiiri waxaan qoray habayaraatee kama hadlin wax qabiil ku lugleh mana dhihin ogadeen kaliyaa dagaalamay, mise ogadeen iyo ogadenya ayaa kaaga iska dhex qasan, wax dhiba ha u arkin in magacaaga wadan lagu magacaabo. Ilaahayoow nacaafi adaa wax caafiyee.
Kaliya waxaan ka hadlay dadka ree somali/galbeed ama reer ogadenia oo kali ay ku ahayd gumaysiga xabashida in mudda ah garaabid ama u jixaanjix fiicana aan ka haysan somalida kale ayaan ula jeeday, hada markay idinkana xabashidu idin qabsato ayaad noo gaarbi doontaan. Marka walaaloow kafiirso, sifiicana wax u akhri intaadan ka hadlin. |
| Qabiilyare | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 11:11 am
To Guumaysi DEED sxb Magaca kaa horeeyay,Aammiin, ayaan kugu qalday .Raali ahoow.Aloow wixii buka daawee.Marka dedkeenu midoobo heel iyo hoo waayimaysid.Inta dhulkaa dagta haddii la mideeyo wax badan ayyaa isbadali lahaa.Sxb hada waxaa loo arkaa hal qabiil sida jabhadaha SNM,SSDF,RRA,USC iyo kuwa kalee la midka ah.RRAda mooyee inta kale waxaay nagu dhaamaan waxaa ka dhxeeya magaca qaaliga ah ee SOOMAALI!!!!!Hada ma fahan tay waxa jabhadna jabhada kale taageero aanay u siinayn? |
| Quudhsi-Diid | Saturday, October 07, 2000 - 11:43 am
Sayid Maxamed C/lle iyo Imam Ahmed Guray labaduba Abysina hadana loo yaqaan Ethiopia dagaal ayay kula jireen.Sida la ogyahayna labadaa geesi ee Soomaali waxa lagu tilmaami karaa inay kasoo jeedaan deegaanka Soomaalida ee wali Itobiya u taliso.Magacan Ogadenya midkoodna dagaalka kuma galin.Labaduba waxay haysteen kalsoonida qabiilooyinka deegaankaa.Afar qarni(400 years)kabacdi miyaan ku dagaal galnaa magac qabiil ku salaysan????????"Axmed ma uu dhimman,ma gablamin Darwiishkii".Jidkii toosnaa yaan shacabka laga weecin.Yaan lagu dayan kuwa islaweynaanta qabiilkooda ku jidbaysan.Qabiil yaan nalagu sarkhaamin.Ogadenya waa magac qabiil ku salaysan.Indhaha yaan lays qaban.Guray iyo Darwiishkii miyaan qabriga kasoo kicinaa??Aqoonyahankii dalku maye??Waa dal iyo dad wanaagsan oo hogaan xumo haysato. |
| Ha NOOLAADO RAFLE | Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 10:53 am
Ismaamulka Soomaalida ee Ethiopia waxaa madaxweyne looga dhigay C.Duulane Rufle sida shalay ay BBCdu sheegtay.ONLF oo ah urur Ogaadeen dagaal baan wadnaa ayay wali lee yihiin.Dadka gobalkaa baarlamaanka ugu badani waa Ogaadeen.Dad kale oo badanina way ku jiraan.Waxaa yaab leh nin kasta marka la casilo sida Madaxweynahii ka horeeyay Madaxweyna Duulane markay soo fakadaan ayay dibadaha yimaadaan.Markaas ayay yidhaahdaan waxaan ahatn ONLF.Kiidawladda laga casilaaba wuxuu yidhaa ONLF ayaan ahaa.ONLF iyo taageerayaashooduna lacasilayaasha ayay soo dhaweeyaan.Sababtoo ah ayaga ayaa u badal saraakiishii Dawladdii hore ee Somalia ee burburtay.ONLF jabhad siyaasad ma aha .Waa jabhad loo dhasho sida kuwa Somalia baabi'iyay.Radi xoriyo radiaha ONLF dhagaysta.Dawladda Ismaamulka Soomaalida kuwii soo qasay ee lgasoo cayrshay ayaa wadani iskaga kaayo dhigaya.Hadaan ha dawladaa cusob ee gobalka Soomaalida taageerno waxa badan ayaan qaban karnaa.Ninkaa cusub eedhalinyarada wali aan musuqmaasuqa baran MrDUULANE iyo daladdiisu maanta taageero ayay nogaa baahan tahay.ONLF beeta ay waddo ha joojiso.Ina Duulane Ogaden kama xigtee.Dagaal ONLF ay waddo oo muuqdaa xattaa ma jiro .Beenta dadka dabadaha jooga ka daaya .Waligiin ma waxaad rabtaan qaxootinimo.Dhulbaad leedihiin.Kaalaya wuu idiin baahan yahay.Guraag ayaa ganacsigii oo dhan qabsaday.Idinkuna AMXAARO ayaad wali carabka ku haysaan.Qaarkiin waxaa u malaynayaa ianydaan wadanka wali arkinba.Xaro qaxooti ayaad ku korteen.Intiina kalana 30 sano kahor ayaad wadanka kasoo baxdeen.Wali qaaarkiinbaa XALE SILAASE moodaya inuu wadanka u taliyo.ONLF goormaad wax garan. |
| DhagaxBuur | Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 12:20 pm
Suggestions to The new President of Somali autonemous Region(Somali State Region), Kuraasta ammaa jagooyinka sidan u qaybi:30 Ogadeen,20 Ciise,20 Jidwaaq,15 Jaarso,10 Gari,10 Gadabuursi,10 Karanle,5 Garre,5 Sheekhaash,5 Dhulbahante ,5 Isaaq,5 Majeerteen,3 Wayteen ,2 Madhibaan,2 Reerbaar,2 Bursuug,2 Jiidle,2 Mareexaan,1 Aw Xasan ,1 Xawaadle,1 Baalcad,iyo illa shan kale oo minoritiga kale isku yeeshaan.Sidaa si dhaanta ka cadaaladsan yaa haya???Kolay bari waa lagu badaliye wax lagugu xasuusto Ummadda uga tag.Has odhan cidi kuma arkayse afka buuxso.Hanbalyo Madaxwyne.Reergalbeedow hadaynaan darajayn madaxdeena madax ma noqon karaan.Sakhraanka Ina Cigaalba Madaxweynaha madaxweyna qaarbaa leh.Aaban dhaliilnee caan mid aan ka dhigano.Xaarkastaba waataa gobalada kale magacoodii soo saareene.Mr Duulane intooda badan waa ka cilmi badan yahay.Xoola dadna ma dhicin ,dhiig Soomaalina wali ma galin. |
| WARDHEER | Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 03:19 pm
DHULKA SOMALI OO DHAN AYAA DAGTA QABIILA KASTANA
LEH. HALGANKANA SOMALIDU WAA ISAGA SEEXATAY WAAYO
DOQONKA OGAADEEN SIYAASAD WAX KAMA YAQAAN OO
WAA KAA LEH OGADENIA AYAA LA I YIRAAHDAA OO OGAADEEN BAAN AHAY ANAANA DAGAALAMAYA OO DHULKA
LEH.XIL LA,AAN HURDADAADA KU JIR SOMAALIYEEY
30 SANNO KADIB KOLKA UU DAGAAL AAN GUUL LAGA
SOO HOYNAYN IYO QAXOOTINIMO KU JIRA ASAGAA ORAN
DHULKA SOMALI BAA LEH SOMALI-GALBEED BAANA LA
YIRAAHDAA KOLKAAS AYEYNU TALO ISUGU IMAAN.
WAA LA ISU SOO NOQON WIXII NOOL ADUUNYADAN
NASO OO HURDADA GAMA, DOQONTAASINA QORI HA
LA WAREEGTO OGAADEENYA AYAA NALA YIRAAHDAANA
HA HAYSO. IYADAA DANTU RUNTA U SHEEGIYE |
| WARDHEER | Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 03:22 pm
DHULKA SOMALI OO DHAN AYAA DAGTA QABIILA KASTANA
LEH. HALGANKANA SOMALIDU WAA ISAGA SEEXATAY WAAYO
DOQONKA OGAADEEN SIYAASAD WAX KAMA YAQAAN OO
WAA KAA LEH OGADENIA AYAA LA I YIRAAHDAA OO OGAADEEN BAAN AHAY ANAANA DAGAALAMAYA OO DHULKA
LEH.XIL LA,AAN HURDADAADA KU JIR SOMAALIYEEY
30 SANNO KADIB KOLKA UU DAGAAL AAN GUUL LAGA
SOO HOYNAYN IYO QAXOOTINIMO KU JIRA ASAGAA ORAN
DHULKA SOMALI BAA LEH SOMALI-GALBEED BAANA LA
YIRAAHDAA KOLKAAS AYEYNU TALO ISUGU IMAAN.
WAA LA ISU SOO NOQON WIXII NOOL ADUUNYADAN
NASO OO HURDADA GAMA, DOQONTAASINA QORI HA
LA WAREEGTO OGAADEENYA AYAA NALA YIRAAHDAANA
HA HAYSO. IYADAA DANTU RUNTA U SHEEGIYE |
| wiil-ogaadeen | Sunday, October 08, 2000 - 03:49 pm
wardheer midkan labaxoow, horta magaaladan afkaada urka badan kadaa, madoonayo inaan caay tamo sidaada oo kale tabartaada ayaa intaa ah. aniga waan kaa tol badnahay oo kaa tol fiicanahay si kastabane kaaga horeeyaa, waxaa hubaal ah inaad netkan waxaad rabto aad kuqori kartid balse aadan ogaadeenya ama ogaadeen midna aadan wax haba yaraatee udhibi karin, ee waxaan ku oran lahaa caaytan awoodaada waa intaase. |
| Awaare | Monday, October 09, 2000 - 02:05 am
Bravo Wardheer hadal adaa dhameeyey. Doqontu qoriga hala wareegto ileyn qacli majiree anagana
dhiigeedu markuu dhamaado amxaarana dhulka isaga
kacdo ayeynu magaceena la baxaynaa maanta somali-galbeed, barrito somaali-galbeed waligeen
somali-galbeed
Wardheer naso oo hurdada gama, gama, |
| Koshin | Monday, October 09, 2000 - 05:26 pm
My fellow countrymen I would like to request from you to keep this conversation clean. I feel we are making a great progress in discussing this topic. I wanted to move on away from this issue but some thing different comes up that need to be responded. I am not here to persuade my point view to anybody, in contrary I am here to learn from you. Some of you had express your opinions with out putting any thoughts, if you are going to convince me to see where you are coming from please tell me why? Give me a valid reason on why we need to stop using the name Ogadenia. I have mention to you why we should keep it for now and my reasons are well documented in my previous posting. Please take a time to read it. I am stunned to see the level of emotional expression some of you display with your writings. I can only hope you think of your head instead of your heart. We must always think of our head and be logic. Our heart could just destroy us completely. One of the main arguments posted against the name Ogadenia was based on 1977-78 war with Ethiopia. It stated all Somali people fought for the liberation of Ogadenia or at the time Western Somalia to liberated from Ethiopia. That is absolutely right, my friends, but the questions was that the right thing to do? Of course that was the right think to do emotionally Siyad Barre had moral obligation to help the people of Ogadenia on their struggle against Ethiopian Empire. Logically Siyad Barre's direct involvement with the war hurt the struggle because it brought a lot of negative publicly though out the world, why? The international community didn't see people fighting for their libations but they only saw a country with define boarder lines claiming another country territory. In other words, we lost the war of foreign policy. Siyad Bare's emotional efforts became the demise of our people. He wouldn't listen to his adviser, he created Western Somali, and he took direct comment to lead Somali troops into Ethiopia. That was the begging of the end of Ogadenia and Somalia. My friends you must first learn international law and where you sit with current international laws of territorial charter. We can not take the name Somalia, as of now because we are not Somalians yet, and we are not free to be who we want to be. If you desire Somalinimo, lets work together so we could expedite our freedom. |
| Koshin | Monday, October 09, 2000 - 06:28 pm
I can't help anyone if they decide to insult us, but I can only try to do my best to help them find solutions for their anger. I am hurt by comments made by Wardhere. My advice to you is please don't post any hate messages. If you are making a comments or suggestion please do so with in the boundaries where your comments are appreciated. Otherwise it would lose the validity and substance of your point view. Ogadens are not blind sited they are people of unique circumstances similar to those of Kurds in Iraq, Iran, and Turkey. They are in never ending struggle for survival to keep their people out of dark shadows carved through with out their will. They have suffered internal and external misappropriations in which is the result of where we are today. Mr. Wardhere you have suggested that Ogadens are the sole reason on why others are not able to carry on peaceful means in Ogadenia.
My friend you are far from the reality, the Ogadens are not fighting because they like to fight, but because they where never given a change to decide for there own destiny. No one likes to lose lives what he or she could accomplish by peaceful means. If you think ONLF is a fighting machine and they don't want to sit and discuss other alternative you are again misinformed my brother. I would like you to refer to independent source the AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL site and see for your self on why we chose to continue to fight on. You will be surprised to also see the ones whom are in jail or killed are not only form the Ogaden tribe, but all of Ogadenia Somalis including Ogaden. If you think ONLF is tribe-based organizations and that is why you don't want to join, let me remind you that one of the founding fathers of this Organizations was JIDWAQ. I let me also remind you if ONLF is tribe based so does the TPLF. The one you would like to choose is up to you.
There are a lot of you who have chosen to be members of TPLF and it is affiliations and your current president elect Abdirashiid Dulane is one of them. He is an opportunist whom always looks his interest first. He was educated on the expenses of BILE RAFLE a prominent criminal who worked for Siad Bare's interest. He and others like him are the ones who brought our youth from Ethiopia and made them soldiers for Barre. The others like TARAH!! Used the Ogadens in refugee camps that won repatriation to oversee where conditioned to speak Amharic. Otherwise, they where told they were not Ethiopians. It is funny, even those whom we worship and die for are against our developments. I can respect Mr. Dulane's point view, he is entitle to joint what ever political party he wishes, I welcome him as the new president of Somali region and Congratulation to him. As for Mr. Wardhere, make up your mind join the ONLF, TPLF, or create your own, you have a lot of options open to you, and where every you choose we will respect you. |
| Galimeys | Monday, October 09, 2000 - 10:53 pm
Galimeys
Waryaa Nacasnimada in aad is Dhaaftid Dhagaxbuur
iyo kuwa ku andocoonayo dhulka waxaa ladhahaa
Ogaden ama onlf.
onlf waxaay la mid tahay USC Ceydiid hadaadan
siyaasadahiina aadan wax kabadalina
waligeen gumeyste ayaad hoos joogeysaan |
| Anonymous | Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 05:22 am
waar waa kuwiinan magacyada magaalooyinkanaga la baxaya dee waoowgiin alla gubye noo dhaafa magaalooyinka.
waaryaa nacasadda iidoor ee la baxday awaare haddaan hargaiesa barri idinku gali wayno waabad ogaan oon sidii dagaalkii quus goys ee 1987kii ciidagale ku jarray idiin galin.
dhillada majeerteen ee wardheer la soo taagan adiga kuu jawaabi maayo maxaa yeelay gabdhihiina oo dhan axmaaro ayaa ka dhaansata.
onlf iyo ogadeeniya waa lagama hadlaan lama bedelaan, canaasiirta lama hadalo umana jawaabno. |
| Galimeys | Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 05:36 am
Anonym
Gabdhaha Darood waa ceeb kasaliin
wax ba ha ka sheegin gabadha Kablalax
hadaadan magaca badalin
DOQONKII OGADEEN WALIGII WUXUU
HOOS FADHINAYAA GUMEYSI:
TASHTA JIDWAAQ;WEYTEEN;GALIMEYS;BALCAD EE
HOGAAMIYA SOOMALI GALBEED HADUU WALAALKIIN UU
NACASOOWEY WAA CAG DHEER |
| Ahmed | Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 08:48 am
Aad ayaad u mahadsan tahay Mr KOOSHIN.Waxyaabaha aad sheegtayna waa xaqiiqo jirta.Xaaladeenu waa "unique",sidoo kale dariiqadda aan halganka u maraynana waa inuu noqdo "unique".Taas waxaa kasii daran aqoonyahanka carrigeena oo markuu gumaysigu xanuujiyo Somalia yimaad si sahlanna ku milma shacabka Jamhuriyadda .Waxaa u jeedaa 'brain drainage'maskaxda oo laynaga miirtay.Soo dhawaynta walaalnimo iyo taageerada walaalnimo ee aan ku dhisnayn cilmiga ee sida Mr Kooshin sheegay aan waafaqsanayn qawaaniinta xuduudada ee Qaraamada Midoobay waa inaan raadino xalkeeda.Dib aan ugu noqono Taariikhda "Unique"da ah ee aan leenahay.Sideebaa awowyadeen oo inooga cilmi yaraa wadajir halgankoodu u ahaa?Dhulkeena (Ogadenya/Somali Galbeed/Somali Region)sdeebaan u wadaagnaa halganka iyo maamulkaba inagoo tixgalinayna qabaa'ilka kuwa si khaas ah u daga dhulkaa iyo kweena labada dhinac ee xadka Somali daga.Sideebaan shakiga iyo cabsida ay wax ka jiraan iyo tan aanay waxba ka jirin ee dhaxtaala qabiilooyinkeena wadaaga deegaanka aan u xalinaa?Miyaan ka maaranaa labadhinc dagayaasha.Maxaa qaarkeen qaxooti aan u nahay marka Somalia aan nimaad Qaarkeena labadhinic-dagayaashana sahalka uga dhiga dhaxgalka bulshadaa?Waxyaabahaas waa waxa aan jeclahay si qotodheer la iigu fasiro tiiyoon lagu gafayn lana caayayn qabiilna.Mr Kooshin aad ayaan ugu baahan nahay faaqidaada iyo afkaar isweydaariska ku dhisan istixgalinta .Inaga oo si kala duwan arimaha qaarkood u aragna ayaynu dadkeena halgankiisa ku midoobaynaa. |
| KOSHIN | Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 03:29 pm
Thank you ahmed. I think I am going to rest my case! I have said alot. Most of you are so concern about the Name Ogadenia that we forget that Ethopian troops are headed for Mogadishu pretty soon. Maybe, then we will be able to fight together and be able to use different name like SOMALI WEYN. That is where the ball game is headed. For those of you whom are not convinced that ONLF is a real, think again. I by no means support the name inorder to dis respect anyone of you, because we need your views greatly and we will respect them. Likewise, we would like you to respect us. I am not an advocate for ONLF, infact if tomorrow comes with freedom. I would vote for name change as soon as possible. I think this will surprise some of you. Don't think we Ogadens are head over heal on this Name. We are people who care for your freedom, and we respect you enough to die for you, So please do not critize. I would like you to join the struggle, and I promise you we will change the name. |
| suul-dheere | Tuesday, October 10, 2000 - 06:34 pm
awoowgiin la gub idoor waligeedba waa ogaden ee ama diida ama yeela xaaran reer buculbacayr saan idiin galnay berbera maad ogayn laforuug. |
| KOSHIN | Wednesday, October 11, 2000 - 06:40 pm
After A Month In Ethiopia,A scots Aid Worker Believes She Has Uncovered A Secret War by the country's new democratic goverment against the Oromo and Ogadenia people::::: SHE flew on a tourist visa but the souvenires susan pollock brought back were not the standard holiday fare.Tapes of alleged torure
victims,photograps of bodied left to rot in the fields,and page after page of carefully copied testimony detaling extra-judicial killing,disappearances,hidden detention camps,rape,and intimidation.Pollock,35 from Glasgow,spend four weeks travelling around southern and eastern ethiopia last month,gathering what she says is evidence of human rights abuses on a major scale against the Oromos and Ogadenias.She has called for an international investigation into the situation and says unless the west starts asking some tough questions of the new ethiopian regime,a fresh human tragedy may be about to unfold.Political instability and representation have been the hallmark of ethiopia's history along with natural disasters,such as drought and famine,on an epic scale.But there have been high hopes for the new democracy since the overthrow of the brutal marxist dergue regime,known as the red terror in 1991.More than 250,000 people across the country's 40 ethnic groups were estimated to have been killed in the preceding civil war.The collapse of the dergue under mengistu was brought
about by the ethiopian peole's revolutionary democratic front(EPRDF) and the (TPLF) tigrean people's liberation front,and it was the EPRDF who formed the first democratic goverment after the eletion in 1992.Pollock was in ethiopia during the election,working among the Oromos as a nurse-midwife for a british aid agency.At the time,the Oromo liberation front and Ogadenia National Liberaton front had withdrawn from the election and was pitted against EPRDF.When hundreds of soldiers loyal to the EPRDF regime surrounded the community in which she was working,pollock and her colleagues were forced to flee.After walking for four days they reached
another settlement but eventually had to leave for the UK when it too was surrounded by soldiers.In the intervening years she heard reports of repression of the Oromos and Ogadenias and arranged to return to the regin to gather evidence.The EPRDF regime meanwhile has consistenly denied accusations of human rights abuses."The Oromos are seen as been backward in their lifestyle",said pollock,they have always been the slave trade of the country,they have done all the hard work.They are not an educated people and they have been downtrodden for centuries.In a sense their suffering is nothing new but this time they are suffering in a way that they never suffered before,"She Said,adding that the new goverment fears the Oromos because there are so many of them.There are around 25 million ethnic Oromo in ethiopia.Arriving in the capital,addis abba as a tourist she made contacts within the Oromo community and began to interview those who said they had suffered human rights abuses. Every day was a risk.I was aware that the people i was speaking to may have been watched,that i may have been watched.When i moved out of he citry area into the countryside,i felt very tense at times,because i was aware of the tensions among the people around me.When i went to people's houses to talk to them,i didn't stay for long.Sometimes when i had arranged to talk to
people i was taken away out of sight,a lot of it was done in secret among the alleged torture victims,she found a young man in his 20s who had been arrested on suspicion of involvement with the Oromo Liberation Front and she taped his testimony.He Said,"One torture they used involved placing a heavy block of stone on my neck that weighted 70 to 80 Kg.I was forced to walk up and down stairs while soldiers beat my back with guns,sticks,metal bars and stones.They did this until i fell down. After three month of his torture i gradually become weak,my hands could not hold things and i could not walk.Eventually i was so weak i was taken to a hospital where i lay on bed for eight months.Pollock said she examined the man and believed he had suffered permanent nerve damage.He couldn't walk,couldn't move.He was lying 24 hours a day.He is very young mam and his life is completly damaged.Others talked of massive concentration and detention camps,large numbres of people being arrested and detained without trial and prisoners being summarily executed.She was also given phtographs of bodies riddled with bullet wounds and dumped in fields.In a recent report into the political and social situation across ethiopia the human rights charity amnesty international said several thousand suspected goverment opponents had bee detained in 1994 there were widespread allegations of torture and reports od scores of disappearance and extra-judical executions.Amnesty spokeswoman Kathy Daniel said they were aware of the information Susan Pollock had brought back with her and it would be useful to add to other reports.Pollock,who has worked previously in pakistan is hoping to back overseas once she has completed her report into ethiopia.She is pessimistic about the west looking more closly at what is happening in the country,but believes that they could be heading for a new ethnic crisis.At the moment it is doing this it's bubbling,she says,waving her hands in front of her."But i do envisage an uprising,because there is so much that people can take.I believe that evry single Oromo family
has been affected.Every Oromo has a story to Tell". |
| Has | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 08:12 am
Who are Oromos ??Largest nation in Ethiopia?I thought Amharas are the largest nation in Ethiopia. |
| KOSHIN | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:07 pm
You are misinformed my good friend. The Oromos are the largest one ethnic group in eastern africa, and second to Huasa of NIGERIA. The Amhars are second in Ethopia. It is also keen to know that alot of Oromos has been AMHARANIZED. |
| Anonymous | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 01:22 pm
kooshin sxb waad ku mahadsantahay doodahaaga qiimaha badan eed meeshan ka soo jeedisay runtina way wanaagsantahay in lahelo dad adoo kale ah dadkana wax lawadaagi kara waxna ka dhaadhicin kara isaga/iyada oon caytamin.
marka taas laga soo tago geeska africa waxaa ugu badan Oromo waxaa ku xiga Ogaadeenka, waxaa ku xiga Kukuuyada waxaadna akhrisaa buuga layidhaah geeska africa iyo qabiiladiisa, uuna qoray qoraaga caanka ah ee ree Nigeria. Marka ma garanin meeha Axmaarad second ku noqdeen mase sheegin hadaad somalida ka saarayso ood ka hadlayso ETHIOPIANka kaliya.
Mahadsanid |
| KOSHIN | Friday, October 13, 2000 - 03:45 pm
Walaal waad mahadsantahay ANONYMOUS, waxaan ulajeeday, Ethiopia dhaxdeed. Sidaas na ula soconin. Waadna ku mahsantahay. Insha'allah waanu gaareynaa in si wanaag ku dhisan aan wax iskaga dhaadhicino. Haddii, aan anugu is sharfi weyno,, oo wax iska dhaadhicini weyno, ama isqadariniweyno waxba nooma hagaagayo, xorimona lama gaarayo. Aniga waxaan jeclahay inaanu helno dad wada doodi karo, oo kala garqaadaniko. Waan garankaraa dad badan oo diidan magaca, lakiin waxa muhiim ah in lasoodhoweyo, oo ladareensiyo sabta anu magaca uheysano waqtiga hada ah. |
| xamar-jadiid | Sunday, October 15, 2000 - 02:00 pm
Doqontaas ha inoo dirirtee maxaad ka rabtaan
ONLF waa magaca kaliya ee ay taqaan ha ku dirirtee faraha uga qaad sxb wardeer, awaare iyo galimays waa waalan tihiin iska aamuse nooh |
