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     | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 09:11 am Dear Somali men I wanna share with you a little secret that we somalian overlook when we are with our somali ladies. We have taken them for granted. That is the simple secret. let us wake up and give our women what they deserve. lo, walaahi I travelled almost around the world, I have never seen ladies whom I can compare with Somali ladies. they are the best walaahi. let us love our ladies and stop battering them as if they are our sheep. viva Somali ladies for l;ife
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 09:14 am Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. 
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 10:00 am ohhhh please they are the worst No education,no future and hope some of them need assistance in live it's self. byeeeee
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 12:42 pm Yare You a the biggest idiot whoever lived so why don't you get a life you big booger piece of ••••. If you say one word after me I will make sure that you pay for it. somali sis
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 04:55 pm To: Somali sista you not my sista first lol I am just telling what i see aight Are u worst that me ?.
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 05:47 pm mlendo faisal dont generalize,sijui guys discovered the goodness of somali ladies centuaries ago.tell that to the freaks from somalia.
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| | Monday, December 18, 2000 - 07:19 pm feisal, please help me out here and tell me just one thing that somali women to be admired of. I say only one thing--not two nor three. i repeat. i say only one thing. I gave you the benefit of doubt before i judge you why you are saying that. Alipapa
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 02:20 am Somali woman rule!!!!!!
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 03:44 am faisal abdi, walallo i am very glad you brought this topic up coz the somali bro- today are not realizing that somali sis- are the most gorgeous creatures living and i am not lying i get people telling me this everyday. so don't you think we at least deserve to be treasured and admired. and i believe that this is the problem that causes for us to be apart, the girls look else where than the guys get pissed off, i don't understand. guys if you want things to work out you have to do your part! and start to treat the girls with respect! and for a guy to look for a virgin when his not thats being a hypocrite since he already took a girls virginity. in my opinion somali men need to sort out their absurd mentality, and start to treat their women like queens. there's nothing more i would like more than to end up with a somali king but i find it hard to find that mr right, to share that fairytale life-style with. peace! bye4now
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 03:51 am To alipapa, don't get the brother wrong there is good and bad in every race, i'm not saying we somali women are perfect but i honestly believe that the good somali women are to die for!!! We have a lot to offer somali men, we understand them better then anyone. And a believe a good woman is one who sticks to her religion so if you really want a great women then go for one who practices islam and you will not be dissapointed!!!!
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 03:52 am I can ONLY respect those who respect THEMSELVES
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 06:40 am The somali men who don't recognize the value of their ladies are plain stupid and they have no moral or value.  We are the ones who take of you, who nurtured you when you were a kid, who will be mother to your kid if you are lucky enough a get a somali wife, so watch out.  yare I don't want to be your sister and I would have done anything to make sure that you will never be a somali again or be seen as one. Somali sister.
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 07:44 am ALIPAPA IS A HOE HE KNOWS NOTHING BUT NOTHING ALIPAPA I WISH TO SEE YOU ALIVE...FOSHOW/IT'S ME CLIQUE
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 08:24 am to all somali chicks out there plzee just loose some weight and rush in to the gym,cause most somali chicks have a cute face and a nice hair but no body at all,never mind DA legs and DA belly but their butt is big but again is hanging down yo,"U know wat iam saying"that just makes us "DOGS" unattractive yo,I know some of U will find this offensive especially DA big ones but it need it to be acknowledged,all iam saying is somali chicks need to stay physically fit and healthy,I know mentally they are strong.PEACE
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 12:01 pm ....and the beat goes on. ....and my question remained unanswered. yet i see many people addressing me!. please don't preach me. i am tired of hear this blah blah. All i need is if you want to address me, answer my question. I repeat. can anyone out there tell me only one and one attribute/thing that make somali women to be admired of?. let me put this way. is it ? a) the look (do they got the look) b) Productivity( are they productive as chinese, whites). c) tolerance(are they as submissive as indian or Ethopians). d) religious ( are they muslim as Indoesians an other far east asian). e) Good bed performance (do they cry and make you proud when you doing the job as Arabian women do. and then thank you ahahaa) d) Do they try to live their means( like other black women do). The more you integrated and see many other women, the more you give awefull rating to somali women... and i swear. All i know is somali women talk too much, demand too much, spend too much, criticize too much, produce too little, have the least tolerence, know less, live on lies and bragging plus many more. with all that i will welcome anyone of you bastards trying to answer my early question. Helooooooooooooooooo tell me only thing. i will be happy to listen. i am all freaking eara. i will see what you saying. alipapa.
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 12:16 pm Alipapa There is nothing ok I am opening school, so i can train them lol, if you have any other idea let me know
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 04:29 pm TO ALI PAPA what wrong with you! why are put as down like that. let me tell you about my self so maybe you will change you mind about some sister. i gradute top for my high school class in high school. and innsha allah will gradute college in january as a medical student. i always work hard to what i get. never wait from my brothers to do something for me. i learn how to drive by my self and many other things. i never make any grade less than b in collge. i swear to allah. i belive i`m smart and funny to be around but there is no somali in my collge so i have no somali friend and when i read what you said it CAN BE TRUE BUT NOT FOR ALL OK. i want you to write me back and say what you think about me.
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 04:59 pm alipapa....BASTARD. JUST LOOK AT YOUR NAME! THAT IS FUCKED UP NICK. THE THIEF OF BAGHDAD WAS YOUR FATHER OR YOU ARE THE ILLEGITIMATE SON OF JUHAA. THAT CRAZY MOTHERFUCKER. SOMALI WOMEN ARE QUEENS. THEY ARE HATSEPSHUT, NEFRETITI, ARAWEELO AND DHAGDHEER. SOMALI WOMEN ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR SOCIETY. THEY PRODUCE MORE THAN MEN. THEY ARE ALL BEAUTIFUL AND ACHIEVING. THE WEALTHIEST SOMALIS IN GULF ARE WOMEN WHO ON THEIR OWN STARTED BUSINESS VENTURES AND SUPPLIED SOMALIA WITH MUCH NEEDED CONSTRUCTIVE MATERIALS AND FOOD. THEY HAVE VENTURED AS FAR AS TAIWAN, JAPAN AND SINGAPORE TO DO BUSINESS. ALL JEWELLERY STORES IN INDIA, AFRICA AND ABU DUBAI ARE RUN BY THEM. IN THE EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA , SOMALI WOMEN HAVE GRADUATED FROM UNIVERSITIES.SOMALI WOMEN ARE VERY RELIGIOUS ( THERE ARE FEW WHO DISGRACEFULLY AND NAIVELY SOLD OUT) BUT MAJORITY ARE DIGNIFIED AND HONORED. I LOVE SOMALI WOMEN AND I WILL ONLY MARRY SOMALI SISTER. I WANNA HAVE BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTERS AND I APPRECIATE AND LOVE MY MOTHERS, GRANDMOTHERS,AUNTIES, SISTERS,AND ALL SOMALIS. SISTERS KEEP UP YOUR HEAD AND DON'T LET FOOLS AND IGNORANTS PUT YOU DOWN. THE MAJORITY OF SOMALI BROTHERS LOVE U AND DIE FOR U. WE WILL PROTECT , DEFEND AND HONOR U. I DON'T WANNA BE AN IGNORANT AND I WON'T BE FORCED TO INSULT OTHER BEAUTIFUL RACES. BUT I PREFER A SISTER. I LOVE A SISTER. I WANT A SISTER AS MY COMPANION. SISTER!!! I WANNA SAY TO U WHEN I WAKE UP EVERY MORNING. SUBAX WANAAGSAN MACAANEEY. I WANNA SAY TO MY FUTURE DAUGHTER AABO AMAAL KAALAY, SEE TAHAY? MA FIICAN TAHAY! ALI PAPA...FOOL YOU DON'T EVEN COPMPREHEND WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT AND WHERE I COMING FROM.
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 06:36 pm TO FAISAL ABDI,====THANK U, WE NEED SOMEONE LIKE U WHO STAND FOR SOMALIA LADIES, AFTER ALL, ALL WE HEAR IS HOW BAD SOMALIA LADIES ARE I AM GLAD THAT WE FINALLY GET ONE WHO TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT US.
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 09:29 pm maka, very funny.. Oh well!. what can i say?. good for you and i assume what you are saying about yourself are all true. There is no any reason, whatsoever, i am gonna argue about about that since i cann't say it is untrue. However, that was not what i was talking about. No one said all somali women are dumb assed creatures nor are they all something else. Of course, there are some smart individuals. And as i said that wasn't what the discussion all about. We all know that every society has some common characteristics, tradition or culture. in that case, we can generalize whole society by attributing to their common characteristics. And that is why faisal started this topic claiming somali women are all good. and it was at that point of time i asked " tell me any common characteristic that somali women can be admired of". and as you see, no one tried to give me any answer. every one started bubling out or bushing around with no point. i think that all i have to say. And please next time try to answer my question which is "tell me any common characteristic that make somali women admirable". Please don't tell me about yourself anymore because it is not what i am asking. Daadir, Due all respect, your attack is unjustified. It is because, i didn't attack somli women. i just disagreed with Faisal who seemed to some kind of naive and complete idiot who doesn't know what the heck he is trying to say. you see, I just asked a simple question and i deserve answer--not to be attacked. If you believe somali women are beautiful or hardworking, we are talking about different somali women. For sure, you are entitled your opinion, so am i. ...and yeah as usual the beat going on. ...and as usual somalis argue without getting into specific. ...and that leaves my question unanswered. Alipapa
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 10:45 pm For the fellas who haven't seen true beauty, I pity you all. For one thing you need to know is that Somalian women, and I say this from experience since I am one, are the pillars of our society. If beauty was to be sought in Somalia, look at the heavenly creatures that encompass it, and that my brothers is us. We have a lot more to offer the world then you guys will ever. Any Somalian girl can have a bunch of guys pining after her of all races and multitudes. Yet what remains of the skinny brothers with the so called thuggish appeal, he has no where to turn but to those accepting of him. How soon they forget that true beauty lies both in the exterior and the interior, and was it not for the hands that rocked your cradles when you were all just helpless, can you truly say that those so called women were void of all beauty. Can you not marvel at our exquisiteness and feel blessed when you have us in your grasp. We are phenomenal women and honey we have curves, and smiles that will melt your hearts. Suitors of all kinds coaxing us every day, but we fight the temptations that are presented to us, and preserve ourselves for you guys. We have been and always will be graceful women. It's time that we were appreciated.
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| | Tuesday, December 19, 2000 - 11:32 pm To be honesty, Somali women is the best women, ever lived in this part of the world, and I will argue who ever say no to this, I don't think any of you men trevelled, like I did.Somali sister, is beautiful, kind, loving, caring, and after all very patient, on your weak side of not helping her in the house hold, she tolerates on you many daily activeties, in which you go to the local restaurant, and talk all day, when she is back home caring on everything that you left behind.Please let's have some respect on our Somalian beautiful angel, enough is enough, let's heal the wounds of the past, and help our sisters, in the destiny of building a good and strong Somalian famailly.Let me say this to my all Somalian sisters please forgive us, what ever mistakes we have done to you, I am sure, the young generation, including are very educated now, and saw that coming to this countries, we could never compere to any other women, I don't care how good she is that she will take your spot, of having a good sense of humor and clean hurt.I love all of you .May allah make you strong, peace.
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| | Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 12:02 am Alipapa: One thing huh-----> Iftaah Yaa SimSim!! open ur mind first, then u will see many things. One good thing i can mention about somali women is ur mother is a somali woman, right?! If not, your grandmother is a somali woman, right?! If not ur sister is a somali woman, right?! If not all the above...what the hell u r doing here giving somali women a bad name! PS: I am not a bastard :-)
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| | Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 08:20 am Alipapa, My wife, eventhough I never married her for beuty,every co-worker and friends that sees her compliments me on my beutywise choice. She works full time, has a degree and still takes some courses at night. She never raised her voice on me, even when I know I am completly wrong and I feel foolish later,and I guess she knows that. She prays 5 times a day(Start praying full time after I met her) and leaves work early so we can prepare our Afur(together). We are both extremly happy in bed. Am I lucky? Yes, I thank god every day, never take that forgranted and I am 100% sure there are a lot other girls like that. P.S. My Wife is 100% SOMALI
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| | Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 12:55 pm for faisal, thank u so much for apreciating yo somalian sistaz like that boo.and to the rest of y'all who are dawging somalian ladies.well....I aint got nuttin to say to y'alls cuzz y'all just whack m*thafuckas who aint got nuttin else to say but to talk •••• about us.somalian women are the ones who gave birth to u, the ones who fed u and the ones who brought u up.So what y'all need to do is stop foul talking about yo sistaz and get it straight.With out somalian women..do u think u will be here?..I dont think so!!.So go on and learn how to respect,cuzz y'all seem like childess fools that need a slap across thier f*cking faces.u are bunch of pathatic,immature,thickheaded punks that need to stop hatin' on us ....aight.... I'm out, peace FOXY GIRL
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| | Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 04:13 pm To. Alipapa: I have to Admit I do enjoy your controversial topics even though I disagree Totally. I will try to answer your Question, you may agree or disagree. There are a lots of things that Somali women should be admired of it like... what "Idea" Said. Here it goes. I am Sure your mother is Somali obviously a lot of get up in the middle of the night to feed you a lot of you star crying or need a diaper change,and she was very happy doing that with no complain I think that's something to be Admired let a lone other things she done for you. Looks? if Somali women are not pretty I really don't know who does. Beauty is not fake Boobs fake nails and butt but natural body, but most of the new comers they think beauty is what they see in Magazine those skinny Barbie, who got no moral or decency and western societies use their women material not as a human being and when ever they gain weight they don't consider beautiful. I am sure we don't want to do to our Women. Productivity? do you mean having kids if so . We know Somali families do have a lot of kids due to our women.. unless you meant in business matter if that's the case I heard back home our women who are very intelligent do to civil war lost their righteous place to serve their nation so in order for their children to survive they are selling Tea on the street and someof them do carry full bags of water to support I may say the "Husbands" so They can get a Hot Meal so indeed they are productive not chines females who cook only white Rice. Tolerance? Alipapa it goes both ways men and women Submissive? do you need a slave or a wife? Its good to have someone who can help you and stand beside you not an arrogant way but building good future with you, It will be tragedy to have a wife that scares every time you show up. Are they Muslim? of course they are that was easy unless you wanna elaborate what's your definition being a Muslim? Good in Bed? do you really want someone who cries in bed or enjoyment? I am sure you haven't slept every Somali women unless you are stud :-) so generalizing is Absurd Do they thank you after hmmm.. this one is Funny.....LoL Alipapa try hard next time I am sure she will thank you with a big smile on her face......LOL Finally Alipapa be open minded and embrace our ladies if you wish to do so Later
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| | Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 04:20 pm happyGuy, I hear ya.and Good for ya. but my question to you is: does that make all somali women to be like that? or did i say all somali women are bad?. The rest, Rest of you cry babes are ignored since non of you tried to be specifics. ...and I rest my case. Alipapa
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| | Wednesday, December 20, 2000 - 04:34 pm Hey Papa, I was !
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| | Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 05:35 am did i say all somali women are bad? Alipapa if u didn't say that, my bad. Then you must know every community no matter their colour have their own good and bad people. There is proverb in Somali that goes something like "Think about your children before you have them". Would I want to confuse their Relegion or Living style by marrying another race? I wouldn't, but I would rather have another race than a Somali woman who just talks all day on the phone. Anyways, in my opinion there are millions of good Somali women around the world, you just have to be patient and know how to deal with them. Peace........ P.S. If you need more details,on what I admire about them just holla back @me
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| | Thursday, December 21, 2000 - 10:16 am Alipapa, First of all your language is extreme and dictating, relax a litte bit bro. Second of all, I find my sisters very cute and charming no contest in that regard, height, color, and slimness are of no comparison. Also, they are non-materialistic, fun to be with, and more importantly very hardworking, by putting themselves through college and working full time. If you mention about sex, I believe it takes two partners to make sex. So, perhaps you need to modify some of your techniques, and if you claim that you are the ultimate master. Then perhaps you are not a good teacher! In the final analysis, you seem to have been disappointed repeatedly, which makes you think that you are entitled to your opinion solely on the grounds of your individual experiences with Somali women. In fact, we men are not that perfect either. So long till then.
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| | Friday, December 22, 2000 - 10:07 pm ice-man, first, glad that you enjoyed my writtings. Second, i don't know how you article got in there. last time i wrote on here my last piece, yours was not there. i guess you posted while i was writting. Third, as you said we may understand but not agree with each other. For that reason, i say nice try but i didn't agree non of your answers except the last one. Lol. For sure next time, i will try harder. That is if i decide to sleep with somali woman which seems impossible to me right now. Again, i understood what you wrote down but did not agree with you. .... and so long ... and case closed Alipapa
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| | Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 03:04 am hey guys alipapa he is mad person!!!! I hope u find somali girl otherwise u will dissapointed rest of u life let me I will hook u up.
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| | Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 08:50 am ALi Papa, you seem you've living outside Somalia for long time and thus you don't really have that much idea of true Somali Lady. Go to Somalia and see what our hardworking mom, wife, sisters are doing, that will help you understand our beloved Somali women more and appreciate what they are doing. You find them very hardworking, religious(mostly xaafid al-quran), shy, caring to their children and husbands. Men come home late at home( from saaxiibadiis at the biibito)not doing that much to help at home. When he comes home he finds warm supper on the table and some light meal(like warm milk and doolshe) for the middle of the night. She get up earlier than him and the children, prays Subx and prepares Quraac. Children goes to school, man gets up and here is fresh oodkac/beer with canjeelo in front of him. Next day, he is going to be with his other family and next day with his other one until the round comes back to her after 4 days, and she is Ok with that. Only Somali women will do that. God bless our women
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| | Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 01:12 am Don't forget that alipapa is entitled to his opinion,even though his statements are false. I think highly of Somali women because of my mother and my sisters. Somali women define the true beauty in a women. I think a man can't go wrong if he finds a sister who is into her religion and culture. This is just my opinion.
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| | Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 02:09 am I love 'em too. Somali chicks are HOT!!!!!
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| | Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 06:28 am mad mac, Lucky you !and don't you forgot that you are an outsider. and it is well known facts that all inferior races likeoutsiders more than they do themselves. In that case the same somali woman who bows you and shows you all this kind of heart-breaking tears kicks my ass. It is beacuse they are inferior and hate themselves--their people and love some gaal like you. And you gaal, don't you also forget that variety is a spice of life. I mean you got sick of white women and thai one. and now you want one black skinned one. and that is why you maybe like somali women. But hey gaal, so am i and everybody else. I don't see any beauty in somali women.and that is why i like other races. in fact somali woman make me sick. the rest, Keep on loving your mothers and sisters if they can be your wives/girl friends.What a disgrace!. a grown up person will pop up here screaming" ILOVE SOMALI WOMEN COZ MY MOM AND SISTER ARE SOMALI WOMEN". I see nothing but bunch of pussy begging punks. Alipapa
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| | Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 10:51 am To- Alipapa You know what? That is your choice man. If you would rather be with a white trash/chinese/ Jamaican non pure chicks who have no inner or outside beauty, then go head. No one is stopping you. Just don't try to change those who are not corrupteted as you.
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| | Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 11:08 am it seems that poor Ali Papa's heart is badly broken by some Somali woman. or maybe, he is very ugly that he can not get one of the queens. His case looks the same as that the fox who could not reach the fruits on the tree then said, ' akh, these fruits are sour and rotten'.
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| | Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 03:12 pm Omar, Well said bro!
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| | Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 05:24 pm At last!! Someone with a sense............hurrah!! we have made it!! Lets party girls.........ulala
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| | Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 05:55 pm Ali papa<---------------------------->rageediiiii would those punk ass somaliwomen butt kissers ever learn the game???!!!!!!!!!!! I look at somaliwomen and see this: -no class -oil -bad smell(that unsi thing kills me) -bad breath -ugly cloths -out of shape -a non-stop complainer -a zero thinkng she's a hero -a bitch -a witch -a hoe .....................and the legendry cheap-n-clean. am I f.u.c.k.i.n.g nut to over look all of thses things and call them beautiful!! that would be a crime in itself as long other chicks dig me am cool without them cheap hoe's.let the gurrilas eat them like bananas LOL
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| | Thursday, January 11, 2001 - 06:19 pm the best the world can offer is Somali Women. iam married to one and so much thankful. ALXAMDULILAAH.
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| | Friday, January 12, 2001 - 06:40 pm Slaam All, When I see a somali-woman I see this; -My precious mum -My lovely sisters -Manners -The most beautiful creature on this earth -Shyness -The flower of my homeland -A simple of freedom -Class -Sunshine -Moon -My future -My desires -My unborn children -Green&red -Great tradition -The beauity of Africa -Perfection
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| | Friday, January 12, 2001 - 07:40 pm How dare I forgot!! -A beautiful smile -Toughness -Simply dynamite
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| | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 06:32 am Hello all, Its funny how women all the time brag about been pretty, well do u expect a guy to give u a credit beacuse u were boren pretty..lol thats natural so somali sistaz but that argument to rest on peace. Hummmm!! what else somali women are good at. Lets sperate somali women, into 4: 1- Somali women back home 2- somali women in diaspora 3- The old genration 4- the new generation. Somali women back home divorce less, complaine less are more productive then the ones outside the countery,have more guts, know more about what been a somali woman is, appreciate their culture more, no different then the old generation, excpet in age.why is that, well it will come naturaly when i talke about the other 2. The somali women in diaspora are less proudctive know •••• about who they are niether they care,are more into new things or as they call them " its year 2000, get a grip," excuse for everything, cheap, dumbe.Hopless, naagers,useless. One question whats the differences, cause somali women can change easily, they can be manipulated easily then any other women on earth. Back home men alwys forced ideas into their thick skull, by deeds or by words, or by kicking them fatt jelly ass. Now men have no control, in the West, thats why they are been pimped in every street corner in North America by Jamicans. Look all of them bitches here wanna prove they can speake English..lol and about somali..oh..well i never grow up back home, or its hard to write..lol Tell many somali women athuors,politations,poetss,historical figuers,freeddom fighetrs,any outstnading deed. u heared of?. We all know of 2 somali women. Araweelo use to jap off guys balls. Nad Dhagdheer use to eat them. bye..u can never fool me into beliving somali women are all that.
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| | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 07:55 am when i see somaliwoman i see a nappy haired,nose magnetic,jamaican bastard walking,hands on her booty and the freaking somali woman spitting jaad on the corner. whore in progress
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| | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 08:55 am Amazed I couldn't help but reply to your stupid remark "Back home men always forced ideas into their thick skull, by deeds or by words, or by kicking them fatt jelly ass". So in other words what your saying is that you want a Reboot that doesn't have a mind of it's own. Even though I've never been to my home land I know more about it then you I could tell you that!. Back In Somalia the men were sick and tired of being dictated by the infamous Said Barre so these self deprived imbeciles decided to take their suppressed anger out on their poor innocent wives' who at that time didn't have something called "Freedom of Speech". In my personal opinion I think that Somali men have been so sheltered from facing reality as a result became deaf.In Somalia, the situation was such that women were enslaved in order to serve men from the day they were born. Our own mothers used to force us to carry you on our backs and change your diapers. We were obliged to cook your meals, do the laundry for you and serve you as if we were your maids. Since men have never done anything for themselves, they turn into zombies entirely depending on women. The Somali man sits on his mothers lap before directly moving to that of his wife. in Somalia a woman's life, irrespective of her marital status, was in the hands of the man. And the majority of women had no economic power to free themselves. They were virtually a property of the men. In a bid to draw economic advantages, it was normal for (families) to force their young daughters to get married to men as old as their great-grand fathers.Therefore, (those young women) used to lead a stressful life and endless torture. It was normal for any (woman) who resisted to be slapped in the face, thrown out of her home, and (unilaterally) divorced.If I can be blunt, the whining of Somali men is baseless. They are (mourning their loss) -the bad habit of bullying women. They are hard put to deny the tangible achievements made by women and men's utter failure in the Diaspora. I myself could tell you that the Somali women in the western society are more successful then our male counterparts one of the reason being that the men spend most of their time at donut shop's and drive cabs. Unlike the women they don't have a high school degree which is mandatory,most of which pursue further education after high school. Now don't get me wrong their's a percentage of Somali men I have seen who are very intelligent,respectful,and have manners. It's just sad to see how Somali men are becoming more and more worthless at such an alarming rate. First they ruin our homeland now their giving us as a whole a bad reputation. Every time I come on this forum I have noticed that the men are still parading about victory that wasn't even won(see THE GREATEST AFRICAN HERO for proof). If you knew anything about Islam you would have known that Allah (swt) is the one and only person who could rule anyone or anything in that matter. Men and women are equal regardless of what you say!.
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| | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 08:58 am To Alipapa and the rest who are disrespecting somali women Remember this when your are talking about somali women as a whole then your including your mother and all the other generation of somali women in your family, so are u all saying that your mothers are all unproductive ?? . I believe a person speak only of experience and it seem that you all had a very bad time with certain somali ladies. Why do you generalize somali women as one? we are all different, have different qualities, some of us are educated and some are not? so what is the point of judging us as one. And just because you had a bad experience with a somali women don't try and bad mouth others who share the same cultures for her wrong doings. Alipapa you said tell me one thing that is good about a somali women in general, I believe that most somali women are strong, both mentally and physically. They can handle any bad emotional problems without getting depressed, compared to other cultures such as white people, belive me i speak from experience, as i am always around other cultures i know their reaction to the most smallest problem and yet still get depressed about it. Being a somali women just makes you proud and you will only notice that if you see and communicate with other cultures. Think about all the somali women who left their country with their children by them self and moved to a foreign country that they have no clue about. It take a lot of strength for a women to cope with such life changing plans. Believe me there are many qualities in Somali women but i will just leave you with one.If you like other races that is your business just don't disrespect us and generalize us, try to be open minded, there is good and bad to every culture remember that.
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| | Saturday, January 13, 2001 - 09:14 am Ali Papa, Hey bro I understand what you are saying and you made perfectly clear. Though , I do not agree with you that you should curse and generalise you have your points to make. And those of you talking about sisters and mums. I think you misunderstood about what ALi Papa exprresing. He is not looking his sisters for a wife, would he? he is looking for a life partaner. And we have to be honest about that tht there are problems.
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| | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 09:16 am rageedii, i salute you man!. yeah and the "oil", i guess you refering to the cooking. I wonder why they like to use for that much oil whatever they are cooking. This community needs intensive lessons of life from A to Z man. And to my surprise, the same oily women then ask "why somali men have big bellies?" ahahaaha. they don't realize that this too much oil they are feeding to those poor guys like, faisal abdi who don't question anything from these fucked up somali women, is making him big-belly creature. Thanks to God. i am glad that you saw them, man. somalicream, So all you can come up with is "somali women are emotionally and physically stronger than other women"?. Well, dear i gave you credit to dismiss all the other characteristics-beauty, hardwork, honesty, demand less, understanding, cook good food, obey their husband-- All that other good stuffs that is being admired of women. However, this emotionally and physically strong thing you claimed is in question. first, i thought being somali means being physically weak either man or woman because of our diet. to claim somali women is physically strong is like saying somali men are physically strong. And i don't have to tell you, how little i feel when i am at gyn and lined with 300 lb and 6'5 guys. lol. So tell me, where somali women get this strgenth when we, somali men, are lacking?. Don't forget we, somali men, are from somali women and we eat same diet. if my mother is physically strong as nigerian woman, i would have been strong as Hakim Alijuan is. simple as that. About emotion strengh? well, think emotional strengh as how much one can put up with shiit. do you think somali women will score here?. i don't think so. i though being somali is being intolerant, high temperd and got no emotional strength all. Both genders got no tolerance--especially somali women can't take small pressure. they are so fragile that you can't even criticize them. Arawelo. hey faminist, looks like you are the only sane female out there. About generalization thing, i gues the topic is all about generalization. just go up and see how the idiot who started the whole damn saga had started with generalization. thanks for being understanding anyway Alipapa
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| | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 09:58 am Ali Papa Hi, this is the feminist one. I think you go up to the women and say hey you bithch, intolerant, tempered and whatever you can think off. Bro come down. somali women are quite emotionaly capable to put up alot of stress including your abusive words. Come down, are you after few women who do not even care themseves or the 99.9% of the decent somali women. if you want someone like that then I am afraid you have to accept if they say no and go after who ever they want. but if you are looking for a loving, hardworking, pretty, godfearing and honest women they are every where and wating for you. but how would you get them is entirly rest with you ( and many other somalimen) but I would suggest at least one thing REFORMATION of yourselves. Then, you would be happy ever agian. If you know how to love then you will survive. is my massage. Boun fortune bro Aro
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| | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 10:25 am It is amazing how some people say they hate Somalian women and still check their messages and what they have to say. One thing to say stop "playa hating"...........If you can't live with them, then buzz to other FORUMS. Alipapa, no wonder you feel so little as you mentioned, is called "lack of selfrespect". Every playa is been heart broken at least once, is just matter of how you bounce back. Good Luck
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| | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 11:36 am from my opinion, i think some just a small percentage of somali womans look nice and some of them are really smart, but the rest are really fucked up, they try to hard and do stupid ••••, i know nuff somali girls that try to be like jamican woman, they need to stop. yall try to hard, most somali girls i know are cool and st8, but those are the ones who live in canada and speak good english, the others are stupid, old nappy heared ugly ass bitches, and 1 problem with them is that they ask 4 toooo much, i dont like that. so dont most somali men. most of the somali womem are all player haters, and cock blockers, in other words, if a nigga trying to deal with a jamican girl, they try to act just like them and they will try to be just like them just to get to u, thats not good i hate most of yall.... u need to stay somalian those true hard core refugees, and keep it real with ur religon and ur culture, although culture is a sin...keep it real and maybe ull find a somali man instead of a white trash, that s whats wrong with yall these days, going to white men cause u cant seem to find a somali man that doestn like u...thats sad. so let me know what u think...~1~
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| | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:04 pm To-Alipapa When I see someone generalizing a whole group, I see someone who is ignorant and not open to any ideas and in this case that would be you. So instead, I am going to open up my mind and try to understand why it is that you like these cheap white/ Jamaican/Asian hoes. Please educate me because when I look at them I see women who don't wash their filth after they use the bathroom, whose kidney and brain cells are dead as a result of alcohol consume, who most likely have STD,HIV, or AIDS as a result of sleeping with every guy they meet. and need I say more They can't cook, teach anything descent to their off springs. So tell me what makes them so good.
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| | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 12:45 pm Ali papa Firstly lets get something straight, I know there are more qualities in a somali women, but i did not wanted to waste my time stating them all,so you can just criticize them. You have your mind so against somali women you are not even trying to be understanding or at least be open minded. You and the other brothers who are dissing somali women, have such a negative attitude, so tell me what does that suggest about our so called somali brothers(some)???? that there are ignorant, rude and disrespectful and you wonder why somali women go to other cultures. I personally hope that you don't look for a somali sis as she is too precious to go for such an arrogant, narrow minded, judgmental brother like yourself. Please stick to women from other cultures your doing us women a great favor.
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| | Monday, January 15, 2001 - 03:40 pm arawelo, i really don't remember when and where i said"i am looking for a somali woman" or any other woman for that matter. i don't know where you get that idea nor do i have a clue what the heck you were talking about when you said: "if you want someone like that then I am afraid you have to accept if they say no and go after who ever they want." look, by any chance, are you saying i am control freak who controls what some women do themselves or what kind of men they date?. if that is so, then was the time you saw me after such kind of women?. Damn it!. this was the only sane bitch out here and she is assuming all this crap. I wonder if they can debate without assumption! someguy, after i read your post, i checked which forum i am in. I though i am in women's forum which i never intended to be.but guess what! i realized i am in general discussion. for that matter i don't know what forum you were talking about. For your record and your future reference, i have never been women 's forum. i said never. You can go and dig the whole archived discussion and read the current ones as well.You will never see alipapa even in one article. And i never read it. this is the only place i see their messages. saying don't read what they wrote here is redicilous, i guess. However i have to admit i have problem with following their spagheti or noodle-like logic. And i would be very appreciate if you let me know when there is forum for men only. for time been, so long. alipapa
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| | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 06:08 am Somebody told me Ali Papa got infected with HIV from his former Jamaican girlfriend. What a sick minded whore he is!!! You wonder how any body like Ali Papa will have any chance to see/meet any decent women. Dogs see bitchs. So in that sence he is right.
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| | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 07:07 am Alifaker, You know the saying "Damiin far waaweeyn ayaa wax loogu qoraa"? I meant go to Jamicanet Forums. Sorry if I was talking normal p'ple's level of intelligence in my previous post. Never meant to insult your intelligence. My bad.............. Anyway, back to my original Q. why does it effect you so much what they have to say.....Oh I'm talking about Somalian women You know what if I was some kind of psychologist, I would say you have some Beef against them.
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| | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 07:41 am Ali papa Are you still crude and maliscious.I can only thank Allah i will never meet such a person in real life,God help the women in your life,they need counsel among other obnoxious anti-biotics for headaches. I could mention many traits we have to distinguish us from the white trush cows you are used to but i will not,i rather beg a pardon to leave! SEE YA!
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| | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 08:37 am Ali Papa, Hey, it was you who assuming things and calls me feminist thoough, i do not know what feminist means but no offence taken by that. anyway, i think fact speak itself. is not you who commonting on somali women. do not deny it and there is nothing wrong concerning that you cannot have relitionship with your own race because you do not like them. it is commonsense to ask why ?? there must be something you do not like about them and above you stated that. and again when you wrote back to MM you implied that you would like to if i am not mistaken. okey lets put that behind and let me ask you how you come to that conclusion that somali women are not good for anything? we cann debate and post my views upon the issue without being defensive. personally i do not beleive to be defensive when there are some problems to discuss. but would you be the same?? Aro
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| | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 04:48 pm this message is for Yare.....I think the name says it all, coz yare is suffering from Issues regarding his Smallness.....if u know what I mean!!! As for him teaching anyone.....nigga pls.
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| | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 06:40 pm dear arawelo, it is kind of too late to start the damn thing all over again. In other words, i don't have to beat a dead horse. To me, Somali women is dead horse. And my somali women hating thing is not depend on,me being dumped zilion times nor am being too ugly to get one cheap somali woman. It is all about facts found by me and some other somali men who studied somali social problems. my findings don't depend on emotions. in fact it is well calculated compaign and big crusade against somali women and their pathetic lifestyle. You think i am kidding. i swear i am not kidding. you see society is all about families. and family to get good citizen, there should be good family foundation. And foundation starts with mom of the family. Thus, simply every society's failure begins with family-the first cell of the society. Unfortunately somali women are mainly responsible the doom of somali society and its nation. You may say " Oh this guy is gone nutts. it is somali men who did all the destruction". But the reality is somali family dead before somali civil war. And it is all the fault of these illiterate mother bitches who open their legs too wide to populate all somalia for no apparent reason. Wherever you go in somalia, you will find a pathetic and illiterate somali women who have 5 children starving to death. "Where are those bastard kids' dad?" you may ask in despair. to your surpise, you will find that an idiot bought her some candy and fucked her unless she give birth 5 kids with no plans. And you will find out that the idiot was trying his best to raise his poor kids but fled away when he couldn't hand the mother bitche's demand of " kan ii gad.. kaas ii gad". That is the time you will find out that the poor fella was great believer of "if you can't take it, then you better take off". For now my boss is bossing me around, i will call the day and will continue somali women's pathetic life part two inshaa alaah. since then, so long arrawelo. Alipapa
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| | Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 07:01 pm Alipapa your family does not reflect the whole society, nor is it repersentative of it. If you had a misearable life that is making you a social inept, rather a sociopath don't pollute the forum. Take your bitterness and shove it. Arowello, don't waste your time with this boy. He always likes to compare apples and oranges. Taking Western concepts and values and applying them the nomadic society of his yester-years.
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| | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 08:30 am Maya@lol Sis Tell this Loser.He is so Obnoxious.
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| | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 12:27 pm Dear Readers Having started this topic, i believe the time has come to reflect upon what some of the opinions posted here mean. Let us for a moment go beyond the mere opinions appearing everywhere in this room and be more realistic. In this case i am aiming the force of my argument against Alipapa, who appears to be pursuing personal vendetta and revenge against Somali females. Historically speaking, somali women were and still are the most disadvantaged members of society. They endured hardships, abuses, and sometimes lost their lives in the hands of their husbands. They stood against all this, with tolerance to keep their families in unity. They toil day and night caring for their children, never forgetting the importance of their offspring. In poverty, they stood with their husbands, and in time of prosperity they act best in the interest of their families. Women as we all know are the indispensable driving force in which life in this world is based.Every great man which history has produced, there was a woman behind him, acting as his personal saviour, guiding him when he strols away. Yet, so tragic is to see men like Alipapa come here and make a sweeping generalizations that have no base. When a person is subjected to continuous harrasment, abuse and diregard of her basic human rights, what does society then has to offer to this person when in fact that society is biassed against that which they are judging?? It is no wonder then to see such individuals like Alipapa to utter with profanity what he has said her. Alipapa's purpose is no more than that of a mentally ill person confined in solitary trying to break free,,,, you need treatment.. As to other forum members, this is a point of view. It only needs your views and asks you to say what you think without falling into emotions and generalizations that have no valid ground. Women are precious to us, Alipapa, more than ever. Perhaps you dont appreciate the abstract qualities in life which can be found at the other end where women reside. Please Alipapa, review your views and think twice before you deroggate your subjects with your spiteful tongue. What other purpose are you seeking? If you dont need somali women, and i believe none will want you too, then be it and leave our precious diamonds to shine.....
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| | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 01:45 pm Ali Papa: How is mumsy? Is she still hooking at Sherbourne and Queen?
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| | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 07:06 pm I was about to continue what i called "somali women's phatetic life, part two". However, it seems to me that the idiot who started this whole saga is here trying to say his usual nonsense. Look the so-called faisal. I don't know if you can read what i wrote down since you are the one i knew. But if really wants to have discussion with me just answer the fucking question that i asked you in the begining. About the "sweeping generalization", you just mentioned please have a look what you wrote down. First, your title reads "I will always love somali women". this is plural and means you don't like single somali woman but you love somali women--no matter what! Second, you didn't address any certain group but you addressed all somali men and said to them "let us wake up and give our women what they deserve. lo, walaahi I travelled almost around the world, I have never seen ladies whom I can compare with Somali ladies. they are the best walaahi ". This means, in general somali women are the bests among the all females on the planet. Third, you are here accussing me generalization. Are you fucking insane. On the top of that i am sick?. well, i know you will not understand what i am saying but for the record, i will like to state here that i am not going any further to debate with unless you answer my question which is " Tell me only and only one attribute that you think somali women are better than any other the women of the other national of the most of the world that you have travelled if you are telling the truth". Lastly i want you to stop the assumption--that i have some personal vandetta against somali women unless you have facts. Alipapa
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| | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 10:20 pm Alipapa It is no wonder that you arent even good at analysing one's poin of view. True, you have asked me a question, and the reason i never answered is so simple. There are questions whose answers is so plain and clear to the empty mind, your question fell into this category, and believe me, i thought you were better than this, damn you. You need to refresh your style of analysing issues. I love women in general is a statement so clear that what it conveys is appreciated by the mind that understands. I love women in general, damn you Alipapa, and i love the one i love. You are confused. Please i was arguing from the general to the particular if you dont understand the art of argument. In your case, your idiotism is going to lead you in to doom unless you adopt the necessary changes. As the attributes of somali ladies, this space is so small to fill it,,,the list will never end,,, You are too supersilious who lacks the analytical mind,,,no wonder you act as an intellectual... Is this the style now,,,,,,,,,please dont even think of posting a reply here,,,the likes of you are doomed.. I hate to say this,,but i have to admit that i hate men who follow by what they hear or by what they dont understand,,,, Before you come here bubbling, please ask your sisters whether they are what you think,,,,and post that here,,then and then can we see with great clarity whether you are an idiot or a mentally retarded who is recovering now,,,
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| | Friday, January 19, 2001 - 02:38 am TO FAISAL AND ALL THE OTHER SOMALIAN GUYS WHO ADMIRE SOMALIAN WOMEN THANK U ALL AND GOOD FOR U. FAISAL: THANK U WALAALO FOR NICE TOPIC. I JUST WANT TO SAY I THANK ALLAH EACH DAY FOR MAKING WHO I AM: SOMALIAN WOMAN 100% AND I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY LADIES LIKE SOMALIAN IN THE WORLD. IF U KNOW ONE LET ME KNOW. TO ALL U LOSERS YARE, ALIPAPA, JABER I SUGGEST U CHECK WHO U ARE FIRST. IF U ARE TRUE SOMALIAN MEN THEN MAKE SURE U HAVE YOUR HEAD EXAMINE BEFORE U SAY ANYTHINK ABOUT SOMALIAN WOMEN. TRUE SOMBRO, PROUD 2B, DAAHIR BASHIR, OMAR AND HAPPYGUYY THANK U ALL FOR YOUR COMMENT. PEACE...............AND...................LOVE
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| | Friday, January 19, 2001 - 03:40 pm faisal, Sir with all that bull-crap you wrote down, guess what? my question remains unanswered. It is known to those who don't know what the heck they are saying to circle around like the children's play of marry-go-round. keep on circling around if that can let you off the hook. Alipapa
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| | Friday, January 26, 2001 - 05:25 pm Alipapa I likes these words but you need attitude adjustments "All i know is somali women talk too much, demand too much, spend too much, criticize too much, produce too little, have the least tolerence, know less, live on lies and bragging plus many more."
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| | Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 11:06 am hey faisal1 i love u 4 life babe. never met a somaliman like u nor seen1. respect 2 u. ur da man. 1 mo thang alipap dear r u tryin' tell us how uneducated the ladies in ur family r plz lad give me a break. u sound like 1 confused tosser. cheerio peps luv ya
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