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Too_Much_Hold

Monday, December 25, 2000 - 09:20 pm
The one attribute everyone has something to comment on is what a nice personality I have. I have indeed been everyone's bestfriend, but no guy seems to see beyond my exterior and love me for who I am. I am 4 feet tall and 200lbs. I mean is that a crime, why can't they see beyond this. I am such a great person, I have lots of hobbies. I like to ice skate, and no, when I get on the ice it doesn't crack. I have heard that remark one too many times :(
Honestly, why don't you guys like me. I am just big boned my mother tells me. I am beautiful and I want someone to love all of me. I don't mind how you look like.

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Anonymous

Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 05:13 am
Stick to your religion.

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somaliman

Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 06:10 am
My dear too much hold

Take it easy girl and live your life to the fullest,your beauty shines from within DON'T let anyone else tell you any different.


ciid mubarak

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Dr.

Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 07:05 am
Dear Too Much to Hold,

If it were someone else,i would usually jump on the assumptions that you may suffer from lack of self esteem.But your case,considering your speacial features,i would say you have the highest self esteem there is out there.You have out lived an obstacle that has made you stronger than the average person.Because of that,i give you credit to much height.
However,i can understand your sentiments as to seek acceptance from anyone to take you for who you are and not who you appear to be on exterior physical nature.This world is pre-deseigned for prejudice and judgements and all those stuff that make part of Human nature.MY advice? Live your life on your own rules and regulations,strive for excellence and most of all be yourself.By allowing yourself to be YOURSELF...you increase tha chances of meeting someone who is looking for that ver qualities you posses!.....and that...Dear..is an acomplishment worth a million!

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Mercutio-

Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 07:39 am
I GUESS THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE MISSING DEAR.

PERSONALLY I LIKE A WOMEN I CAN HOLD ONTO.

PPL MIGHT SAY THE HEIGHT AT 4 FEET IS THE PROBLEM BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY "HEIGHT IS NOTHING WHEN YOU'RE HORIZENTAL" I THINK. LOL

LIVE YOUR LIFE GIRL AND DON'T WORRY, AM SURE PRINCE CHARMING IS ON HIS WAY.

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Anonymous

Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 07:42 am
Too much hold,
Biittch! loose some fukiin weight.You're too damn big.Men don't dream about screwing cows,although we like big booties,your waist,face,and mid-section must be small.

It's funny how some of you ho's complain about us being too skinny,but your fat out-of-shape asses,have more than enough blubber to go around.

JUST SAY NO TO CUP CAKES BIITTCH!

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alipapa

Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 07:43 am
Hey bitch!

forget ice-staking, being short and overweight. What else is up with you?. Do you go to school? get a good job?.

and also forget what your mama have just said. I am sure mothers kid sometime. Did anybody else tell you that you are beautiful?.

If some of those above questions turn to be true, then, you have good chance of being loved. Just hang on and try to keep on being nice to everybody. i am sure one day one guy will ring your door bell.

However, if non that questions are true, you need to work little bit harder baby.You have to do your homework. You see, you gotta be kidding coming here and demand some love when in fact you don't do your homework.
I know it is unfair that some girls got love snap "just like that!!", but hey if anyone ever told you that life was fair, that person was lied to you to the bones. Life is not just fair! and guess what! that was meant to be like that.

Alipapa

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Devils_love

Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 08:05 am
In the words of a singer...." You are beautifull that is for sure"...Sister too much to hold...stay that way...and please do not give a rat's ass to what some of immature, scum of the earth had to say about your look.....I am positive that there are plenty of ...nice people out there who will love ya for who you are ....rather than the mere looks....Keep the faith .....your reward from Allah might just be around the corner....and remember looks fade away with age...but that golden personality of yours...will stand the test of time.


EID MUBARAK....from a friend of yours...


Devils love.

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Dr.

Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 08:09 am
Too Much to Hold,

Ignore Ali Papa, if i could tell you his brief history you will really Thank God you have less problems in your plate.
You see Ali Papa is an Alchoholic,Frustrated man who has a Dysfunctional History on women,tracing back to his childhood,his Dysfunctional mother and maybe an abusive father.Because of his distaste towards his mother,he reflects the anger and bitterness towards all women.Lets Hope he doesn't commit suicide one of these days! (crossing fingers!)

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Kursi

Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 09:00 am
lol@Dr

be your self sista

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Anonymous

Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 01:24 pm
Dr
I think what somalia needs today is intellectualls like Dr,,,,really,,He has the best quality i have ever sen in these days which far exceeds even the western world,,
keep up bro who knows,, next time i might be here seeking advice..
and the sister please..believe in yourself and who you are,,dont proccupy yourself with what others think of you,,believe who ye are and what you can give,,besides,, you are who you are,,appreciate the characteristics bestowed on you by alaah

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Basra

Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 03:16 pm
Drlol

Caadu Billahi Minan Shaitan...Ali papa how crude can you be? Dispeakable.Tuuuuuuuff.


Dr..do you know you are responsible for me to cholke? loool..i read your prognostics and laughed loud spilling my pop corn on my papers.Keep up the medicine.lol


Sista Much

Much Love sis....Allah loves you ONLY,his love should only matter to you...Hoyoo and Aabo too.loool Goodluck sis

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alipapa

Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 05:07 pm
folks,

Due with all respect, you are not helping this poor overweight girl. Yes, as Dr said, i maybe alcoholic and do have issue against somali women, but i am the only one who tried to help this girl. yes, i am the only one who addressed her problem specificly by telling her to do her homework.

Somalis, let's be realistic here we all know there are some determining factors for man to choose a woman.And the most important ones being:

1-her look( yeah if she gotta look, she gotta game!).
2-Money( Woman can buy a man if she gotta $$. Don't you forget madona the material girl in the material world is now buying her third man.)
3-Fame from first class family.

So how this applies to that chick who started this whole goddamed saga you may ask?. Well, we all know that she don't get the look. Does she?. thus, factor #1 is out reach.and i don't think factor #3 applies too.

And the only choice left for her is to go school and get good job and earn some $$$. It is then that all men will show up. not necessarily that men want her money but they can at least see she can be indepedent and don't need some man's $$$.Believe me, all men will give her respect and bow for her. And that was how i addressed her problem. I wasn't like some idiots who said "stick to your religion". What does it mean? i don't know if that means "wear hijab and naqab to scam some poor wadaads". Well, if that means so and you think it is working, you guys know what you are talking aabout better than me. and guess what?.My apology! my bad!!!.


People let's face the truth. in this world Almost eveyone says "beauty is inside, beauty if the eyes of beholder and all that blah blah blah". but hey, did anyone of you see man with a non-good looking woman when HOLYWOODs have getting together(oscar or gramy award night)?. every woman is more beauftifull than the other. So don't you think that it is time to cut the hype and face the reality. the bottomline "if you are not beautiful try to have something else instead".

Dr. I know all meant was to help this girl by characterly assasinated me. but please note that doesn't change some facts.

facts:

1-The girl is overweight. you could tell her to lose some weight.

2-The girl is short. you could tell her that men like petite women and if she loses some weight, she can be petite. short + less weight=petite.


Basra;

dear the difference you and i is i am realistic and you are dreamer.And that is why you always talk about love when in fact love never was.

And talking about love, Do you ever try to love instead of expecting to be loved?. it takes love to begets love--not the other way round.

keep on looking to be loved when you are not loving and see how dreamer you are.

that was your tip of the week!


and all you bastards Eidul mubaarak


alipapa

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AWEES

Wednesday, December 27, 2000 - 10:44 am
ALI PAPA!! I WANNA KILL U FAGGOT!
IF I EVER GET HOLD ON U>>U R DEAD MEAT!!

TO MY SISTER!! ALLAH LOVES U< YOUR PARENTS LOVE U AND U WILL DEFINITELY FIND A BROTHER TO LOVE U!!
SKATE AND FLY GIRL!!>>>>>>
AND REMEMBER SOMALIS ( AWEIS KHAMEES SONG) SAY " GABAR HADII GACAL KAA GALAAYO>>HA GAABANAATO...HA GUDUUDANAATO..."

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Ice-Man

Wednesday, December 27, 2000 - 12:06 pm
To.Anonymous. "You said keep up bro"

Why "Bro" Are you saying the Word, "DR" Belong to men only?
Woman can be Doctors too , So don't say "Bro"
I don't think we know His/Her Gender

Leave it DR without saying Bro


AliPapa leave the young girl for Allah sake.

Later

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Brother

Wednesday, December 27, 2000 - 12:48 pm
Alipapa
Retarded fool.
If anyone needs help, I think it is your pathetic corrupted soul. Rot in hell.

To my sister.
It's unfortunate that this form of discrimination is not only widely acceptable, but also believed by some like Alipapa. You are who you are because Allah made you that way and as long as you believe in Him you will overcome all this discrimination and God willing one day saves the souls of ppl like Alipapa.
Believe me there is someone out there for you.

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Alipapa

Wednesday, December 27, 2000 - 10:10 pm
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

what a weak society!! God now i know why somalia is fucked up country and why it takes zillion of years for somalis to unfucked up. All it comes down to fear of addressing the problem. We always run religion when got no answer.

Why you always use the religion for a escapegoat?.
How do you know that Allah loves this girl?. What religion has to do with this situation?.

Can anyone of you hypocrites make offer this girl?. She is only asking a boyfriend/husband. She is not asking more than that. Can anyone of you come forward and say "Hey i am ready"?.

Did anyone of you bring solution rather than saying "wait Allah will help you".?. That just shows how uneffective we are to solve small problem.

Keep on depending on faith. they say "Faith and hope is the last resort".

Alipapa

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Sis

Thursday, December 28, 2000 - 04:06 am
Too Much to hold...

hun, don't carry other peoples fears...This is a leason you MUST learn. You know WHO you are and WHAT you are.. don't let others project thier problems and misconceptions on to you for YOU to carry...

you ARE beautiful, this is a fact - because the Allah(SWT) created you, after all he is the best designer EVER!,

you ARE wonderful - because you have a heart and soul that feels and Sis I feel your warmth and beauty and Love.

For the blind, may they one day see. Sis you will find someone that loves you and recognises your spirit.. but first, first you must aknowledge it yourself.

How you feel about yourself will show through your actions and then those around you will pick-up on that and see you in the same way. If you undermine yourself don't expect anyone to praise you.. Guide your words, thoughts and actions with love towards you...

And finally, there are people that are going through the same as you an worse, but because they are not as loving and thoughtful as you are, they have to take it out on others and project there FEARS onto someone else... This makes them 'feel' better for the time being... until they realise they don't like themselves much again.. then they find something else about another person to attack... This is what I mean when I say don't carry someones fears for them.... Can you spot the idiots I'm talking about here?.. there are a couple at least who have responded to your page...


much much love to you sis...

N remember you where created by the BEST designer, engineer et al...

Sis

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SAGAL

Friday, December 29, 2000 - 11:59 am
HOW THE •••• DO U REACH 200lbs. BITCH GET YOUR FAT ASS IN THE NEAREST GYM.

I SAY THIS B/C I CARE.

200lbs, that's a lot of fat so, get to work, u don't have a lot of time to waste.

LATER FAT COW?

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Gabalaax

Friday, December 29, 2000 - 06:03 pm
Hi Sagal,

I know you're excited, Because I know you in person, you have the same problem and you hate being over weight that is why you discourage people for being themselves.

Sagal get a live!! Let the sister be who she is. Too-much-to-Hold, Sister hold into it, I believe there is a Price Charming out there for you, when the time comes--just waite little longer, I know he will come soon.

Your Brother,

Gabalaax

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oldfashion-gril

Saturday, December 30, 2000 - 08:21 am
Ice.Man are you intrested in Dr

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TrueSomBro

Saturday, December 30, 2000 - 09:37 am
Sister Too Much Hold

I hope your ciid was great,And don't pay any attention to what negative has to say about you,I disagree with what some of the people suggested I.e. going to the Gym,Sister feel beautiful form the inside the exterior is fadable,And remember..

When you're troubled
and no one seems to care,
and you can't find
a friend anywhere,
remember that Allah
is there for you.
He hears every prayer.

When life seems empty,
your dreams far away,
and no one hears a word you say,
remember that Allah loves you,
His heart will never go astray.

When the good times seem few
and you're feeling low,
and looking for comfort,
but there's nowhere to go,
remember that Allah will help you.
He'll guide you toward your rainbow.

When the troubles assail you,
and the world has failed you,
remember that no matter what
problems come along,
Allah will always be there,
to help you stay strong.


Your Brother
TrueSomBro

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SAGAL

Saturday, December 30, 2000 - 07:20 pm
LOOK PPLE, U GUYS ARE NOT HELPING HER. THE GIRL NEEDS TO LOOSE WEIGHT. IT'S UNHEALTHY TO BE THAT OVER WEIGHT. I'M SAYING THIS B/C I REALLY CARE. SHE IS GOING TO HAVE A FUCKING HEART ATTACK ONE THESE DAYS. SISTER TAKE MY ADVICE CALL "JENNY CRAIG OR WEIGHT WATCHERS" FORGOT SAKE JUST DO SOMETHING. THIS IS MATTER OF HEALTH, NOT BEAUTY.

TO GABALAAX AND OTHERS:
U GUYS ARE BUNCH OF FUCKING LIARS. U KEEP SAYING THAT SHE SHOULD BE HAPPY WITH HERSELF AND THAT SHE'LL FIND "PRINCE CHARMING" SOME DAY. WELL U ALL ARE FUCKING TWO FACES, I DON'T SEE ANY OF U ASKING HER OUT. THE GIRL WANTS A BOYFRIEN. BUT NONE OF U WILL GIVE HER A CHANCE B/C OF HER LOOKS YET U KEEP SAYING THAT SHE IS BEAUTIFUL NO MATTER WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE OUTSIDE AS LONG AS SHE GOT INNER BEAUTY. "INNER BEAUTY MY ASS". U ALL ARE SUPPERFICIAL, JUST ADMITT IT AND DON'T PRETEND OTHERWISE. AT LEAST I'M BEEN HONEST HERE.

BY THE WAY, I'M NOT OVER WEIGHT. SO GABALAAX, I LIVE IN TORONTO AND CAN PROVE UR SORRY ASS WRONG.

HUGGS AND KISSES
SAGAL

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Alipapa

Saturday, December 30, 2000 - 10:13 pm
Sagal,

I am with ya. That was what i was saying all along. Thanks for being action oriented rather than day dreamer.

Alipapa

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Anonymous

Saturday, December 30, 2000 - 11:51 pm
Alipapa r u an atheist? just wondering!

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Folxumo Kadiid

Sunday, December 31, 2000 - 03:30 am
Too Much Hold. may I ask where you are from because I am interested already. If you let me I promise to be your Mr Charming.

If you are interested let me know and I will leave my e-mail address for you so that we can get in contact. Up for it darling.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Love Folxumo Kadiid
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

OK!!!!

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alipapa

Sunday, December 31, 2000 - 02:18 pm
Anonymous;

No, i am not. Why? are you one?.
I am not atheist Nor am i member of "skeptical society". i am muslim. I hope that helps.

What made think i am one?.

alipapa

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SAGAL

Sunday, December 31, 2000 - 03:32 pm
FOLXUMO KADIID R U SURE U WANNA GET WITH HER. U AND HER (OH THE HUMANITY) "WILL SOMEBODY THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN.

SERIOUSLY THOUGH. I WANNA WISH U GUYS HAPPYNESS. JUST MAKE SURE THAT SHE LOOSES THE WEIGHT.

AS ALWAYS.

HUGGS AND KISSES
SAGAL

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Folxumo Kadiid

Monday, January 01, 2001 - 09:03 am
Oh yes sister SAGAL I am so Intrested if She is up for it. And for the love of God don't mention the children. And Sagal if you want to wish us happiness wait until we get together. OK!!!!

This is a little song for you TOO MUCH TO HOLD
Abaayo wayneey walaasheydiyeey
hadad iraacdid dabarcaan Koodaqaya
contadan koo karinaayaa
cabitankaan koo kenayaa
LOL i can't sing but if you want me to i will learn some just for you.

Folxumo Kadiid.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

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Truesomsister

Monday, January 01, 2001 - 09:16 am
Too much

Sis if you listen what much love br/sisters tel you N trust Allah then surely you will find happiness......I wishh u all the luck!


Ali Papa


You are sick idiot who have no heart! N u call yourself a mumslim???? I bet u don,t know what Islam means! stay a way from da sister will you?


sagal

what is the matter whit you sis? do u have 2 be that rude? why do I have the feeling that.Sagal=Alipapa who is using a Big-cap? cuz a Muslimgirl can,t be that rude.......what is up all the swearing?

Truesombrother

You are so, so sweet mansha,allh.......r u married?Lol


Peace

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SAGAL

Monday, January 01, 2001 - 09:35 am
TO TRUESOMSISTER:

WALAAHI I'M NOT ALIPAPA. I'M SOM/MUS/SIS. I'M NOT RUDE JUST TRUTHFULL. SORRY BUT HE TRUTH HURTS. I SIMPLY TOLD THE GIRL TO LOOSE SOME WEIGHT. AFTER ALL I WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP. APPARENTLY U GUYS DON'T SEE IT THIS WAY. U ALL THINK THAT I'M BEEN RUDE. I GUESS U GUYS "CAN'T HANDE THE TRUTH".

ANYWAYS, I THINK ALIPAPA IS THE ONLY ONE WITH A HEAD ON THIS FUCKING NET. HE IS HONEST, A SIPMLE CHARACTERISTIC U ALL SEEM TO LACK.

HUGGS AND KISSES
SAGAL

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Anonymous

Monday, January 01, 2001 - 09:54 am
truesomali sister

wallahi....wallahi sagal = ali papa.I can swear on behalf of my loved ones.Moronic ass hole.

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SAGAL

Monday, January 01, 2001 - 10:01 am
LOOK BITCHES DON'T U FALL FOR ME. I'M A WOMAN.

HUGGS AND KISSES
SAGAL

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Alipapa

Monday, January 01, 2001 - 10:14 am
... and i turned out to be female--sagal. and you swore in the name of allah?. I rest my case.

Sagal,

thanks. I am glad that you realized that the problem of our society--the weakness we are suffering.


Alipapa

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Anonymous

Monday, January 01, 2001 - 10:23 am
ali papa lol

so u waited ..what ...exactly 13 minutes to change characters? .you could atleast wait hours before you fucking emerged .case closed. sagal = ali papa = to a weak alcoholic negro.

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SAGAL

Monday, January 01, 2001 - 10:42 am
BITCH SAGAL IS 100% WOMAN. I'LL PROVE YOUR SORRY ASS WRONG. I LIVE IN TORONTO AND WILL MEET YOUR UGLY ASS IF U WANT.

U SEEM IN DISTRESS, IS THIS SUBJECT TOO CLOSE TO HOME (R U FAT). IF SO STOP CHATTING ON THE NET AND HIT THE GYM BITCH.

HUGGS AND KISSES
SAGAL

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just a sis

Monday, January 01, 2001 - 10:53 am
Sagal N Alipapa


You are Both sick.if u different.why don,y guys got 2gather.....N produce Few Monkeys cuz u can,t produce humans......U both sound worst than Animal....R u Kafirs by the way?


Sagal

If you are not a Papa...u must be NIgger Lover..so there is where u learn all that Swearing stuff...So get some life and Shut the •••• uP!!!!!!!!!!

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Ubax101

Monday, January 01, 2001 - 01:06 pm
Sagal why r u so touchy about the subject of ur womaness? Is it because you are a tomgirl with no curves? Or is it because the brothas hit a nerve? Let me tell you something missy, If you have no advice for the girl, do not insult her! She didnt ask for it and you know what they say about people who have no sense of direction. You are another Flatchesta!

TOO MUCH TO HOLD
I will leave you with one thought Girl "Beauty depends on the eye of the beholder" and i am sure that there is someguy for you out there waiting for the right time and right place. Jin up girl and shoulders straight i know you can do it coz you have been doing till now. Take care.

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Anonymous

Monday, January 01, 2001 - 01:30 pm
Alipapa,
You are a muslim!! That is something hard to believe. You see muslim is not just a word people utter for outer decoration, it is deed. I have seen some of your posts, i can't say that they were posted by a muslim!

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SAGAL

Monday, January 01, 2001 - 01:54 pm
UBAX101!

U SAY THAT "BEAUTY IS IN THE EYES OF THE BEHOLDER". ISN'T THAT SOMETHING THAT UGLY PPLE SAY. IF U HAD SOME BEAUTY U WOULDN'T BELIEVE IN INNER BEAUTY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT UGLY PPLE BELIEVE IN ONCE AGAIN. DON'T WORRY UR INNER BEAUTY WILL SHINE THROUGH SOME DAY. ABOUT THE CURVES, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOUR FAT ASS FIT INTO A REGULAR SIZE JEANS.

B-I-A-T-C-H

PS

FOR THE REST OF U I'M NOT "KAFIR", I'M A BELIEVER SO, IF U LIKE TO CALL A BELIEVER A "KAFIR" WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT U.

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justanOzgirl

Tuesday, January 02, 2001 - 04:45 am
alipapa & sagal...
how many times have u been dumped? just wandering cos you sound like two poor people who have been through so much suffering that thier self esteem hit rock bottom who in order to feel good about themselves have to trush others...it's really sad if u ask me...or maybe i'm wrong and your simply two bitches who simply have NO life. i can be realistic and a dreamer, right now i'm realistic and honest ...so don't be insulted :)

too mush to hold

sis first u don't need a guy seconed it's what you think that is importent anyone can say your beautiful but it's you that chooses to believe it...so if you say your beautiful (which so many girls can't) then i'm sure your beautiful and anyway who the hell said beauty was importent? well sis it's not! u can be beautiful and be a cold hearted bitch then what man is going to put up with you? i'm sure you already know that. you sound like a really cool and nice person wish i knew you in person i would like to have you as a freind. sis take care and maybe their is a guy that likes you out there and waiting for the right time to tell you.


justanOzgirl

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Anonymous

Tuesday, January 02, 2001 - 05:05 am
Dont separate Ali papa and Sagal...wallahi they are the same alcoholic freaks.

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Labdeelac

Tuesday, January 02, 2001 - 07:01 am
to sister too much to hold

sister I hope nothing but the best for you, I think tru somali bro have sum it up for you when
he said don't forget Allah ......
when u r down remember him and I 'm suer he will
be there for u
and don't let the negative comments get to your head please,
may allah bless and take care.

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Alipapa

Tuesday, January 02, 2001 - 07:48 am
anon,
i wish if you knew that swearing in the name of Allah(walahi) is the last thing you do for a fun.It seems you want to believe only and only what you want to believe. Tell me, is there anything that i can convince you. Alipapa is !=(not equal) to Sagal. Nor Sagal = Alipapa. We aren't even same gender.

Please note that Sagal swore you to believe(3 times). and i, too, swore that i am not Sagal. with all that if you don't believe us, don't just believe what you want to believe. I don't live in Canada. In fact i live in west coast of the States. And sagal said she lives Toronto_Canadian East Coast.

Rest of the weak minded freaks,

You are nothing but cry babes. Keep on whining if anyone will listen to your pathetic and pitchy and eiry tones.
What you don't know and probably don't want to know is nobody likes those weaks who complain all the time. I say nobody. Did you hear me ?. this forum is not place where low self esteem people come seeking for uplifting. each one of us has his/her problem. We are keeping our prolbem to ourself and trying not to bother anybody else with our problems. And we expect you to do the same. We aren't professionals or some sort of help organization. Thus, keep your pathetic life style and your low self esteem to your self. For Allah's sake keep the civility. Or is it that you are all denials in real lives who suffer in silence and you are taking your suffer on the net?

Alipapa

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Anonymous

Tuesday, January 02, 2001 - 08:15 am
aaahhhh ali papa

so you are saying you are silently suffering and you taking it at people on the net.I see.

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To_Much_To_Hold

Tuesday, January 02, 2001 - 08:26 am
What civility do you speak of Ali papa when you referred to me as a "Bitch" just for sharing my trials and tribulations with you ??? Don't you dare get philosophical on us now, you are a shrewd and cold. Let's get one thing straight though were you denying my rights as a human being or were you trying to get a laugh with what you called me. Honestly people like you are the ones who commit the horrific acts in these worlds. It may not mean much to you but you really did hurt my feelings, and you'll never the impact of your hurtful words until you for one day step into my shoes.

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SAGAL

Thursday, January 04, 2001 - 06:55 pm
THIS IS GETTING NO WHERE, JUST LIKE YOUR SORRY ASS
LIVES. U ALL KEEP SAYING THAT ALIPAPA AND I ARE THE SAME PERSON. MAYBE U GUYS ARE INTO CHANGEGING GENDERS EVERY ONCE IN WHILE BUT THAT'S NOT MY STYLE. IT'S GETTING OLD, SO NOCK IT OFF AND LET'S GET BACK TO WHAT'S IMPORTANT. IN OTHER WORDS LET'S COME UP WITH NEW STRATEGY TO HELP OUR OVER WEIGHT SIS SO SHE CAN RESEMBLE A HUMAN BEING. RIGHT KNOW SHE LOOKS LIKE A FOOTBALL. TAKE MY ADVICE SWEETY, THESE PPL ARE DREAMERS. DON'T DREAM, GO GET WHAT U WANT, THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE. I KNOW U CAN LOOK BEAUTIFUL, U JUST NEED TO BELIEVE IN YOURSELF AND WORK FOR IT.


P.S.
FOR THE REST OF U LOSERS. I KNOW U ALL R FUCKING DREAMERS. STOP LOOKING AT HEALTH AND BEAUTY MAGAZINES, DREAMING TO BE PUFF AND TONED, TAKE ACTION. HOW HARD IS THAT. "INNER BEAUTY MY ASS". IT'S ABOUT VISUAL PPL, GET THAT THROUGH YOUR LITTLE TINNY HEADS. TAKE MY ADVICE. GET YOUR DARK, UGLY, SKINNY AND FAT ASSES IN THE GYM. "PROMTO"

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Amaal

Friday, January 05, 2001 - 02:44 pm
Sagal & Alipaapa:

"A cruel word may kindle strife, a timely word may level stress, a careless word may wreck a life, a loving word may heal and bless". Think that over.


Too much to hold:

* Angel of beauty *

Angel of beauty, god's on
creation, picture
perfect in appearance
the motion of every passing
eye.


Molded by god's own hand,
tender and pure, you're carefully
constructed and flawlessly made for all
to behold in awesome wonder.


Center of every attraction,
you're the object of every
desire, glorious manifestation
in the morning is the demonstration
of your beauty.


Focus of optical illusion, the chapter
of every confused mind, beyond the
imagination of all, is the knowledge of your
beauty.


Take-care::)

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Alipapa

Friday, January 05, 2001 - 09:17 pm
Too much to hold,

True, that you were hurted simply because "truth hurts". period.

Possible, that i am shrewd and cold but the bottom line is i helped you to work your ass up and do your part of the work by going to school in order to make money and attract some men.

Needless to say, i and others(sagal, and anon) told you to go to gym and loss some weight.

I knew that you are weak individual who can't face the reality nevetheless i will be wasting your time and mine if i didn't tell you to face the truth, no matter how soar it is.

That was your wake up call from a graduate of "realistic school of thought".

Alipapa

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Sirrus

Friday, January 05, 2001 - 10:57 pm
Ooh poor wretch is she that ask advice to those untitled to give one. I read on and on, and in the process noticed how the conversation turned from the girl who started the topic to discriminatory attacks from and to ali papa and Sagal.

Who cares if they are the same or not, they seem to have the same view. While the rest of us have the opposite, people can we ever exchange opinion without insulting each other, that goes for you too Sagal. As far as I am concerned you are all saying the same thing. Ali papa and sagal are using the tough love act to help out the sister, you are using religion and positive remarks to improve her.

It is different for guys, since girls base their selection on others things beyond looks. Unfortunatly us males are still primative and select a girl based on looks. So I am not gonna lie to you and tell you every guy in the world wants you, but guess what I met this girl that only loved fat guys, and dam she was the most beautifull girl in the whole school. I a well build, and quiet successfull guy asked her out and she choose the fat guy over me. So you see there is people out there, who prefer fat people, so don't lose hope and subject yourself with insult of those people.

Sweet sis, I care about you when I tell you this as doctor, try to lose weight it really isn't healthy, think of your arteries, your immune system. Most people will tell you be happy with who you are, and myself have been told that before. They are simply looking after your feelings. You already seem to have a strong self steem to post such a thing and you don't need such an advice. What you need is to do this for yourself not for guys, work out, get yourself healthy and out of the risk section of population, plus you will feel better and you can attract guys like Ali papa and dump their ass just as fast. Sis you will be surprised how some of your friends (boys)will druul like they saw gold. Just remember if you gonna lose weight do it for yourself not for anybody else.

As for Alipapa and Sagal, stop being god dam harsh, if the sister said she had no legs or arms, would you tell her grow some. If you gonna be realistic which seems to be your aim, try saying it in a diplomatic and non corrosive way.
Much love to all

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xamaali.

Friday, January 05, 2001 - 11:48 pm
Sirrus.

Glad..there is a man..who can admitt..our lenience to..the sexist and prejudist culture..against women..we are immersed in this country...It could be..the continous bombardment of..anorexic chicks..through the siezless advertisements..that got to us.

To the sister..too-much-to-hold:

I am afraid...if one tries to give...his/her opinion.. on your proplem...he/she will likely..hurt your feelings consciously or subconciously... For example..I honestly think... that your lifestyle..can help..a great deal...in handling the prejudism...and short-sighted inconsiderates..who hurt your feelings...if you are connected to the religious community. The ice-skating...suggests that you don't wear long...skirts..or dress..because of their being barrier..to the activity..In that case...I am thinking..The only guys you can get acquinted are the heartless....choosy...unaltruistic womanizers...who choose women based on their set of sexually appealing lists...I am not saying a stocky woman doesn't have sexually appealing traits...for the interest of men are divergent ..however considering....your crowd... I don't expect any solution from them.... they will add to your proplems...I suggest you befriend with the religious and try to stay ....close to the remembrance of the life after death...which should be the objective of everyone... They can reduce any pain and unbearable thoughts...caused to you by Us... We are all prejudists in some form...

Somalis say...slaughter the Ox...the culf should learn from it...I mean by this anology...that A woman should look her surroundings...and should learn from it... How many overweight women in this country suffer..from all kinds of misfortunes.. from the companionless..to the abuse that comes from others just because they are overweight... If those women believed in the Essence of their creation...and that..they are not in this world..to please anyone sexually or not..I think..they would have less proplematic dealings... I hope you get all the strength you need to survive...I hope you will have a blessed life that satisfies...all your needs...

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mad man

Saturday, January 06, 2001 - 12:20 am
1 800 call jenny craig thats all i can say...

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Folxumo Kadiid

Saturday, January 06, 2001 - 03:15 am
I am really disappointed with you lot I though your were helping the girl so haw came you are not getting as together we could be a great couple. forget the next generation, that is another matter. so if you really want to help then now you know what to do. Too much to hold I promise I will make sure you lose some weight. ok

Love Folxumo Kadiid

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SAGAL

Saturday, January 06, 2001 - 07:30 pm
LOOK PPL, I WAS TRYING TO HELP HER. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THINGS THAT I DON'T MEAN. THE GIRL IS A FAT COW AND I SIMPLY TOLD HER TO LOOSE WEIGHT FOR HEALTH'S SAKE. I EVEN TOLD HER ABOUT THE OPTIONS OUT THERE SUCH AS "JENNY CRAIG AND WEIGHT WATCHERS". NONE OF U TOLD HER THE TRUTH. U ALL SAID THAT SHE IS BEAUTIFUL REGARDLESS OF WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE, BUT THAT'S UNREALISTIC AND U ALL KNOW IT. ANYWAYS, QUIT CRITIZING ME, SHE IS THE ONE WHO AIRED HER DIRTY LAUNDRY TO THE WORLD WHEN SHE COULD HAVE SIMPLY WENT TO THE GYM AND LOOSE THE WEIGHT WITHOUT FISHING FOR SYMPATHY. HONESTLY, IT'S NO BRAIN SURGERY.

TO ALL OF U:
I THINK U ALL R FAT OR UGLY OR SOMETHING B/C U SEEM BE SO SENSATIVE ABOUT THE SUBJECT. IF U WANT SYMPATHY I SUGGEST U GET YOURSELVES A NICE CHEESECAKE, U WILL CERTAINLY FIND COMFORT IN IT AND EXTRA 20 POUNDS. IT'S NOT MY FAULT U ALL R FULL OF EMOTIONS.

LIFE IS A BITCH PPL, GET OVER IT.

TO AMAAL:
VERY ORIGINAL. SERIOUSLY. B-I-A-T-C-H.

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Anonymous

Saturday, January 06, 2001 - 07:55 pm
should i call you sagal or ali papa?

are you a homosexual?what a shame.

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SAGAL

Saturday, January 06, 2001 - 08:05 pm
ANON!

I'M I LESBIAN. NO, I'M STRAIGHT. R U?

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ESSENCE

Saturday, January 06, 2001 - 09:16 pm
ALI PAPA:
YOU HAVE LOT OF ISSUES. I CAN HEAR YOUR CRIES FOR HELP. ALL THIS BOTTLED HATRED YOU HAVE, NEED TO BE HEARD. IF THIS IS YOUR LAST RESORT TO HEARD, THEN LET IT ALL OUT. WHAT IS WRONG BRO? WHAT IS CAUSING YOU TO HAVE ALL THIS ANGER? IT IS EVIDENT THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR ATTENTION. DUE TO YOUR INABILITY TO AFFORD A THERAPIST TO HELP YOU OUT WITH YOUR ISSUES, I FIND THIS IS VERY UNFORTUNATE. ( HINT: GET THE SARCASM)
I CAN SWEAR THAT I NEVER MET A BROTHER WITH SO MUCH EMOTIONAL BAGGAGE. DAMN BRO, GET OVER WHATEVER THE HELL IS BOTHERING YOU. ALL YOUR NEGATIVITY IS DISTURBING. HALF THE TIME IT IS NOT WHAT YOU SAY, THE PROBLEM IS HOW YOU SAY IT. IF I HAD NOT KNOWN YOU WERE A GUY, I COULD HAVE SWORN THAT YOU WERE SUFFERING FROM P.M.S.

WHATEVER THE HELL YOU ARE SUFFERING FROM, GET OVER IT FAST. BECAUSE I AM GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF YOU SORRY EXCUSES OF ASKING FOR ATTENTION.

P.S
TOO MUCH TO HOLD:
YOU NEED TO LEARN TO BE HAPPY WITH WHO YOU ARE. YOU HAVE TO LOVE YOURSELF FIRST. I DON'T WANT TO SOUND CHEESY BUT I WILL SAY IT ANYWAYS. YOU WILL MEET THE RIGHT GUY FOR YOU WHENEVER ALLAH MEANT FOR YOU TO DO SO. UNTIL THEN, KEEP YOUR HEAD UP.

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To Much To Hold

Saturday, January 06, 2001 - 09:53 pm
Thanks for those with the kind words, but thank God I was never put into a situation like this, I merely started this topic as a test, and my nick was really “to much to hold, to hard to handle...". So contrary to your beliefs it was just a way to see if you people could be empathetic and it is nice to know that some people are nurturing and realize the importance of kind words of motivation, as opposed to slander "fat cow and calling one in such a situation bitch". So although I am 5'8, 120lbs and have a dreamy boyfriend, you may wonder what kind of cruel kick I can get out of creating such a cruel insane situation like that for myself, well it so happens that I was disgusted with the way people on the net always jump on the band wagon, as we can see in this forum (Ali Papa and Sagal), all I can say is some people should refrain from giving advice. There is a degree to being honest and forthcoming, and you pass the margin when you become obscene and harsh. Words of kindness would have helped in such a situation. Actually I don't know much of what Sagal said since I bypassed her remarks, I mean blinding us with your caps says a lot of your character. DID YOU KNOW WE ONLY USE CAPS IN THE BEGINNING OF THE SENTENCE OR TO EMPHASIZE A CERTAIN POINT. So people let us not drudge this topic in the mud, and I thank God I am beautiful, and honey Sagal I could wipe the floor with you, lets just say when I walk into a room, all eyes are on me. As opposed to you foul mouth hussy (incase you don't know what hussy means--it's brazen slut). If you don't know what brazen means then your just too thick hun, sorry that's the breaks.

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Troublegirl

Sunday, January 07, 2001 - 06:40 am
There goes my advice----down the drain. LOL

TO MUCH TO HANDLE
I was about to give you a great advice, but since you confessed to creating such a ludicrous advert Im gonna hold on to it. But let me tell you something I hope you realise that if U R not like that.......U should thank Allah......and not make fun of the people who are actually in the situation. Do you know what I do if I see a disabled person in the street or a person who is challenged in life............Wallahi I say Alhamdullillah........and I realise how fortunate I am to have what I got, I pray and I hold on to my hijaab. Don't think for a second that Allah couldn't provide legs/good looks or slim-ness for that person.......but Allah is merely observing our SABR and our tolerance towards humanity. So all Im saying to you is thank Allah.......coz the looks you got right now and the height you are claiming to possess (MAY ALLAH FORBID)may not last.......The only height I noticed in this forum is your STUPIDITY.

SALAAM

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Leyli

Sunday, January 07, 2001 - 08:18 am
Too much to Hold,

I believe in you sister, don't listen these unproductive punch of stupids.

If you're really who you said you're, I will take you as you are. You wont regrett and your realtives & friends will not recognize in short period after you've gone with me. I will take you all these places and make you complete numerous exercises everyday including rock-climping - that is were I'm most of the day.

Try me, if you're up to it!

Leyli
leyli@cliffhunger.com

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Alipapa

Sunday, January 07, 2001 - 12:55 pm
.... Oh yeah! yeah ! ...and the beat goes on
.... oh yeah ! yap!..... and poor somalis try to go everywhere but going NO WHERE!.
.....Somebody body help them pleaseeeee.

back to busines at hand, I was forced to response some kuncle heads up here.

Sagal,

you won my oscar. and i swear. will you please keep on hammering on those fainted motherfuckers unless they come back to live?. those motherfuckers need "back to live, back to reality". you are doing awesome job.

Essence,

I really don't know if you meant what you wrote. I tell you it was deep and seriuos business.

Although i knew i live my own world. And i and most somalis don't see anything eye to eye, it never occured to me any sane person will read what i wrote down on this forum and will come your conclusion. Well, what i can say! and all i need is attention, then why don't you just skip what i wrote down--just black listed me. Can you do that for me?. You see, thank to allah that you and i only meet this forum.If i am causing such uncomfortability please ignore my attention seeking and help-me attitude. And Please note that the last thing i will be asking is seeking advice from cock craving cunt like you.


Too much to hold,

I am glad that you are not the person you described your first article.But that doesn't mean i am sorry anything of what i said. you see i don't know personally nor do i have problem with you. I was only answering the to topic. in other words, i was objective.

However, i am puzzled what made you angry if you are that overweihg person?. Why the comment from sagal and i bothered you?. why you are lacking the gutts of not reading what sagal wrote down if that is not making you pain?. You see i wanted and tried to believe what you said in your last article(that you aren't overweight). However, i can help but to believe otherwise. All my reasons pointed out to stick to believe otherwise.

Again nothing personal and i am glad that you are normal human being--not foot ball(as sagal said earlier).

Rest of my weak society,

Do you think that God come out and tell us to face the truth?. Is the religion alibi? or scapegoat?. Or is islam fatalism?. Did allah say "people, if you have problem sit down on your asses and be my cry babes, i will rescue your sorry asses?" or Allah said "I don't (allah) change any society's situation/circumance unless they change themselves"?.

It makes me sad to see islam is percieved here that it is only safe haven of the weak people.People it is about time that you stop abusing islam. islam or any religion was meant to be *way* to solve problem by people(muslims) not the other way round.It is/was people who does the action nor the religion. you can't sit back and said "some thing good will happen to me". you work to make something good happen to you.
Stop being weak and stand strong you cry babes and weak motherfuckers.

Alipapa

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ESSENCE

Sunday, January 07, 2001 - 05:24 pm
ALIPAPA
NOW I AM A COCK CRAVING CUNT?
PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME WITH HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THIS LUDICROUS CONCLUSION. WHY, HAVE I FOUND YOUR ACHILLES' HEEL OR SOMETHING? IT SURE LOOKS LIKE I HIT A SORE POINT. SO TYPICAL OF YOU TO TAKE A CHEAP SHOT ABOUT MY VIRTUE. CAN'T YOU DEFEND YOURSELF BETTER THAN THAT? OF ALL PEOPLE, I HAVE ENOUGH FAITH IN YOUR SICK AND TWISTED MIND TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING BETTER THAN THAT.
P.S.
ABOUT YOUR STATEMENT " YOU SEE, THANK TO ALLAH THAT YOU AND I WILL ONLY MEET THIS FORUM", THE FEELING COULD NOT BE MORE MUTUAL.

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Samatar S.

Sunday, January 07, 2001 - 07:50 pm
To_Much_To Hold,

now u became rude person and bitch that is the way i see u personly ,,,, i started reading this topic from tip to toe one hour ago, and i haven`t been here or General forum quiet a long time.

AliPapa and Sagal , they are saying all time in a hidden way !!!!!! <<<<<hey girl:come out from the closeth or in other words u ain`t who u are?. who u are kidding, coming here and telling us ,,, that u r BUTECEEY --WANKA WAA WEYRAXAA-WANKA and expecting to get easy a boyfriend/husband >>>>>>>

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SAGAL

Tuesday, January 09, 2001 - 08:03 pm
TOO MUCH TO HOLD!
SO, THE UGLY DUCKLIN BECOMES THE BEAUTIFUL SWAN. HA! HA! HA! HA!"I HAVE A DREAMY BOYFRIEND" LOL!


TO ALIPAPA!
THANKS FOR THE OSCAR. IT WAS MY PLEASURE PUTTING HER UGLY ASS IN HER PLACE.

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To Much to hold To hard To Handle

Wednesday, January 10, 2001 - 06:58 pm
Sagal, I am serious when I say I can wipe the floor with you. You can tease all you want, I didn't think you idiots would have taken this forum that far. I can't help it if you have nothing better to do with your time then insult someone who you can't help but hating. Ali papa is no victory for me, believe dear, I have dozens of guys swarming me. Yes I am cynical, but what can I say, when you got it you just got to flaunt it :) Sagal I would invest in my education if I were you, hiding behind your foul language and capital letters will not ease the situation. I hear DeVry is accepting no-brainers.
No you didn't put my ass in any place, if anything you make me pity you for your lack decour.
Ali papa what can I say, why don't you go and join your band of forty thieves, and if you insist that it's ali papa instead of the obvious Ali Baba, same •••• different pile that's all. Now you couldn't even get a nickname that went beyond a Disney movie, how would I possibly take you seriously.
Please people, I am very busy so I don't have time to reply to all your ill notions, I have a life you know. So I'll be off, take care losers !!!

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Killah

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 02:55 pm
Segal:

How's the Crackhead-Institute going for ya? I was speaking with your THERAPIST just last night, and guess what? She tells me she has seen some improvements on your Communication levels, but as you can see that's a little hard to believe, considering the words you're using on the net, actually to be more precise, your favorite word in the dictionary I'm ASSUMING would have to be B****. Now I ask you, do you honestly know what the word itself means? or is it one of those words you just gotta look up, especially in your handy dandy just for KRACKHEADS DICTIONARY?.

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Anonymous

Friday, January 12, 2001 - 03:00 pm
Lol @ Killah,
LOl @ TO MUCH TO HOLD

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SAGAL

Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 08:48 am
KILAH!
IT MEANS A FEMALE DOG. BY THE WAY I THOUGHT I MIGHT JUST ADD ANOTHER WORD TO MY SO CALL VERY SAD VOCAB. "FAGGOT". THE HONOUR IS YOURS. IN CASE U DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. IT MEANS MEN WHO ENJOY THE COMPANY OF OTHER MEN. SO, KILLAH, DID I HIT HOMME-RUN.

BYE IT'S BEEN REAL.

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Killah

Friday, January 19, 2001 - 01:24 pm
Sagal:

I gotta give it to ya, I honestly didn't think that you would hit the jackpot, but then again assumptions are dangerous!.......................


so what would it be? Your reward I mean, hold on I think I've got it, how does a doggy treat sound like like? I hear now a days that's what all the krackheads are hauling for.

How do you do it? Some might ask, but we all know the answer to that question, don't we...................Krackhead's dictionary!.........................Now the only thing that's missing would be the numbers, gee I wonder where that might be located in?

Sorry to disappoint you.....................................but the word "faggot" doesn't mean anything my world..................................It's one thing not knowing how to defend yourself, but it's another not being able to distinguish between the female names and the males.


My child our heads are bowed in prayer for you, may the forces be with you!

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Ubax101

Tuesday, January 23, 2001 - 07:07 pm
Sagal eh?
Did you say a regular jeans?
My girl, look here, i am your worst night mare! You just said fiting but let me finish it for you, i will fit in and shake it too girl. Ugly you said? I think not. I might be many things but ugliness and body disaster aint any of them.

But i know the likes of you, who are mentally retarted and bodilly disorriented. And whatz more, have been abused and mis-used all their lives. And no and no, dont even try to go there sugar coz you have been tripping through the discussion.

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Anonymous

Wednesday, January 24, 2001 - 11:28 am
Ya'll krack me up...............................loooooooooooooool

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Anonymous

Monday, January 29, 2001 - 08:26 am
faty yopu should try to loose weight seriouslyyyyyy