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     | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 01:03 pm In a land far far away, at a time not too far away, there lived a people called the Somalis. Well one day there came about a great war in which many of these people had to leave their country to places far and beyond. Many of the foreigners who received these people did not know what to make of them. For within these people, there lived two different species:MALE and FEMALE. The Somali woman was considered most beautiful, articulate, and intelligent by all. Their male counterparts on the other hand, were seen as lazy, lying, lay-abouts, living off the beauty and hard work of these Somali woman. Well one day, a group of somali men came up with an idea, an idea that would justify this inequality, an inequality that was apparent to all: the males announced Somali women to be inferior. Ohhh how the Somali woman laughed, laughed and laughed...these men of theirs may have been stupid, but they were certainly funny. THE END Discussion Questions: 1. What is the moral of this story? 2. Are Somali Men really stupid? 3. Do SOmali women have a choice in the matter? *content matters. Marks will be docked for foul language.
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| | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 01:10 pm looooooooooooooooooooooooool@lady the funniest part was when you said "Ohhh how the Somali woman laughed, laughed and laughed...these men of theirs may have been stupid, but they were certainly funny".
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| | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 05:46 pm Juda will return one day and kill U all....ya hear me? . . Said, kill U all freaking Canbars.
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| | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 07:27 pm here are the answers: 1. the moral of the story is never ask a woman to be what she is...the men didn't have to ask the woman to be inferior coz they were already inferior. 2. yeah in this case they were stupid 3. HELL NO and pls give me a good mark coz i screwed up the previous assignment and i need to cover up for it...
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| | Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 10:48 pm I give you -10 out of 10=a big fat 0 ........... once up on a time,deep in the somali hawd lived canbaro and cabdi's families,canbaro&cabdi played together as kids,canbaro milked the camels every single day so did cabdi,they grew liking one another,cabdi went to school and graduated canbaro was illitrate,when reached 18 cabdi was sent to england by his father to seek knowledge,while in london cabdi kept on sending love(jacayel)letter's to canbaro but canbaro couldn't read'em.terresa a white girl in cabdi's class have fallen in love with him she confronted him with her love for him,cabdi still in love with his bush-day's sweet-heart canbaro said a firm no. After 4 years cabdi return's home with a degree in economics.he then takes a short trip to his sweet-hearts house canbaro with a some xalwo in his hands,cabdi decides to do the gentelman's thing and proposes to the illitrate canbaro,of course she say's yes he pay's her father done deal,cabdi work's for the somali government,three beautiful kids,1 girl,two boys,life goes on without canbaro complaining and cabdi doing his best to provide for his wife and children... in that bloody year1990 cabdi feering for the lives of those loved one's flews to canada with canbaro and their three kids. cabdi that professional gentelman back home wakes up on the harsh reality,he is just a refugee in a strange land.he takes a low paying job just to feed family,but that was ok as long he comes home late at night's and finds them happily sleep. canbaro started going out more often,leaving the kids alone,he comes home early oneday and finds the children unattended,where is your mum he ask's he went out as usual answer's the daughter.canbaro comes home cabdi demand's an explanation for her carelesness(note that cabdi is a very cool tempered somali-guy). canbaro answers;am a free woman. cabdi(shocked);since when,why,was I treating you bad???!! canbaro;no,but in this country[canada]women rule not men. cabdi;canbaro you're my wife and I'm your husband am not a stranger to you beside we have 3 kids who need both of us! of course canbaro didn't listen to his plea and procceded saying;me&my friend farxiya are going out tonight. cabdi;and what about the little one's????????? canbaro;take care of them yourself cabdi;and what about my work? canbaro;I don't care. canbaro kept on abusing cabdi calling her favorite #911 on a regular basis.he than being frustrated started chewing&drinking alcohol. finaly they were divorced. cabdi ended up in a mental hospital.canbaro became a prostitute. THE END The only sad part is that it is actually a true story. may be you somali-women will learn something from it and behave a little.
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| | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 07:22 am sad.
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| | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 02:17 pm women will always be women...
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| | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 02:58 pm perpetuating the hatred and the gender war is not a viable solution to our differences and problems. Somali men and women are tight. there maybe some issues but why u sisters are over blowing it? are we falling to feminsit trap and their hidden agendas? don't be victims of lebian deviation and zionist cultural destruction. male bashing is a thing of the past and it's a primitive thinking!..i hope we wise up and realise we are all the same people with islamic valus, culture and identity. This west is sick and let's not embrace it's decadent culture. Come up with a different thinking and mentality. look into other non-western philosophies and civilisations. there u may find a very wise, non biased,constructive and non conforontational ideas. i wanna see our sisters denouncing and rejecting westernization. i hope they look deeper into their souls and stop bashing their menfolk..brothers, fathers, grandfathers, cousins, uncles and future husbands and soul mates.
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| | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 03:49 pm People, STOP the non sence. Neither one is and should not be inferior. Sick people you are.
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| | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 05:25 pm I had written this story and started this discussion in part because I found myself reading message after message of Somali men denouncing their women, proclaiming exasperation with either their stupidity or saying they would never date or marry a Somali woman. So Daadir, please do not speak to us of male bashing. Jaber your story is truly saddening, but what is it Somali women must learn from it? Is it that in order to avoid prostitution and make sure their husbands don't end up in mental hospitals, Somali women should show total and absolute subservience to men? NO. It is not un-Islamic for a woman to seek independance. That said, I believe that many of the conflicts arising in situations such as these, is a lack of communication. Before you marry, marry knowing that with your partner you share the same moral beliefs, the same goals in life, and a knowledge of each other needs. And for Gods, do not blame it on woman if you relationship happens to fail!
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| | Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 07:18 pm Jabar that was truly one of the saddest stories I have ever read. Why don't you write a book about it I'll buy it $40. It is great story and it will contribute to the somali literature tremendously. If you are not writer you should be proud of yourself. Do you have a public email? There are no guarentees in life you take whatever it gives you, but somethings can be avoided depending the level of awareness of the individual in question. I am a single, but If anyone is interested in marriage counseling I can refer to you some of the great Islamic books, for instance Abu hamid Al Ghazali's classics. Thanks .
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| | Friday, January 19, 2001 - 02:01 pm Now, it's time for my story. Once upon a time there lived a girl named Canab. She was only fourteen when she got her period. The kids at school started talking about how some guy was going to marry her with explicit details of what he was going to do to her. That day canab came home crying and told her mother what the kids had said. Her mother just loughed and said "canab honey, you are a women now." Canab walked away confused not knowing what that meant. The next day, Canab came home from school. There were a lot of people around her house. her mother took her in the house and said,"Canab, you must dress nice today" then Canab asks "What's the occasion mom?" her mom replies, "No reason, just for a family get together" Once she stepped out of the house, everyone gathered around her singing. Then out of no where, a man with a white hair grabbed her by the arm and proceeds her to his car. Canab fought with him but he wouldn't let go. She looked at her parents for help but they were too busy singing. The old man took Canab to his house. Once she gathered herself, she asked him what he wanted from her. To her surprise, the man replies," I am your husband now" Canab kept crying even harder. The old man sits next to her. Canab then realizes what he wants and started cicking and screaming. That's when the old man started the beating and abusing. Whenever Canab had the oppurtunity, she would run away even as she was pregnant with his third child at only eighteen but her famiy would always bring her back to the old man. Then in 1990, She found herself in Canada. She was now 25, this time she didn't know if she could run away from her five kids. Oh how she hates when people ask "Is he your father?" True story,
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| | Friday, January 19, 2001 - 07:03 pm I always thought "Nonsense" was a one word. . . Or is it ESL style?
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| | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 02:51 am MY SHORT STORY: A LADY DRIVING HER CAR...HITS ANOTHER MAN...IT LOOKS THAT SHE IS THE WRONG ONE...SO THEY GET OUT OT THE CAR...SHE STARTS APOLOGIZING IN EVERY WAY SHE COULD...THE GUY ACCEPTS APOLOGY...BUT SHE STARTS TO CRY..THEN HE TRYS TO CALM HER DOWN...SHE SAYS IT WOULD BE FINE IF SHE JUST GETS SOMETHING TO DRING...THEN HE OFFERS HER A WISKY THAT HE HAD IN HIS CAR..THEN THEY START DRINKING..SHE PRETENDS DRINKING...BUT HE DRINKS ALOT..WAITING THERE TILL THE POLICE CAME TO REPORT THE ACCIDENT..THEN SHE TELLS THE POLICE HE IS THE ONE WHO HIT MY CAR THIS STUPID...OFCOURSE THE POLICEMAN SMELLS THE AL COHOL FROM THE MAN....AND SAYS HOW U DRIVE WHILE U R DRANK...AND OFCOURSE THE GUY IS THE ONE WHO HAVE TO REPAIR HER CAR..THOUGH ITS NOT HIS MISTAKE. KNOW WHO ELSE CAN THINK SO FAST AND KNOWS HOW THO ACT FAST? MEN U WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT WOMEN R ABOUT TO DO EVEN WHEN U R SAYING U KNOW HER VERY WELL... CIO LADY
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| | Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 10:30 am Someone ought to take out the Garbage. . . It's pilling up here.
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| | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 01:54 pm Hebel- Don't critizise bro Your style isen't so great either. Don't be a hater. P.S. "Anonymous" can be anybody. It's not always the same person.
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| | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 02:00 pm GIRL DONT YOU HAVE FATHERS, BROTHERS..? YOU CAME TO KUFFAR LAND AND YOU ACT LIKE THEM.SHAME ON YOU.
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| | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 02:34 pm In Time's of need i'm here to help you imbicile's settle your dispute's. Everyone who know's me off this forum already might now the hate i have toward's somali men and that's not a fact that I keep hidden...but that does not mean I'm not willing to help them over come their obvious falws..think of me as a motivational speaker! Just for the sake of somali men I have opened up seminar's for those qaxooti's in need Below you will find listed a group of Seminars for Men. Women, pets, significant others, any one who is reading this... Please, I beg of you, please sign your man brother friend or whoever the hell need's help up for one of these fun and EDUCATIONAL seminars. (I stress educational if you had not noticed.) These are the seminars that you too should attend...that way when you have baby boys, or younger siblings, or neighborhood kids that are bored, you can TRAIN THEM PROPERLY! Do it! TRAIN THEM!! Seminars for Men You Can Do Housework Too PMS - Learning When To Keep Your Mouth Shut How To Fill An Ice Tray We Do Not Want Sleazy Underthings For Christmas. Give Us Money. Understanding The Female Response To Your Coming Home Drunk At 3am Parenting - No, It Doesn't End With Conception How To Stay Awake After Sex Why It Is Unacceptable To Relieve Yourself Anywhere Other Than The Washroom You Can Fall Asleep Without It - If You Really Try How To Put The Toilet Lid Down The Weekend And Sports Are Not Synonymous The Remote Control - Overcoming Your Dependency Changing Your Underwear - It Really Works Barbara Walters:Thank You ghettogirl that was a very insightful and informing piece you put together I really enjoyed it. Thank you once again for joining us here at abc have a great weekend I'm Barbara Walter's signing off here at abc now back to Hugh Downs
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| | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 04:08 pm Omit Falws=flaws
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| | Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 09:56 pm So you thought that jaber's story was sad and unique one huh?. In fact i am not surprised. I knew somali women are like that by default. The only time they listen and try to work hard is when they got no choice. Below is one of the daily somali canadian stories. I know many bitches willbe enjoying it since the weaks enjoy harming others. enjoy it bitches. have a fun! Somalia - SomaliNet's Forum: Somali Communities - Beelaha Qurbaha: North America: More Discussions: Young Divorced Somali Men -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bashiir Unrecorded Date -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- She calls me all the bad words and dictates when I can and cannot see my children, my own blood. She threatens me with every imaginable legal suit, crime and civic suits. To add salt to the injury, the government labelled me as a deadbeat father after I skipped only couple of payments. Amid all of this, I love my kids very dearly and I am in this world for them no matter how bad they lie to my them. The good news is that i am not alone, almost Somali woman you see is devorced once or more. Where are all the guys who devorced them? The anser to this question depends on the person you ask. From the ladies' perspective, these deadbeat guys know only how to chew qat and stand infront of coffee shops! Is it true? I don't think so! Many dads are hard working men who try to make ends meet for them and their children. What's wrong with these guys then? their only problem is that they cannot get along with the mothers of their children. These women use children as weapons because they know we, somali guys love our chilren very much. Not only the devorcees face this problem, there are thousands of Somali guys who live with their wives only because of the children. There are also others who leave the house temporarily very often because the the children became a bargaining chip. I opened this thread so my fellow Somali guys who have been abused by the one they married can vent-out their anger. A brotherly message to all the brothers who did not get married yet: These women are very sweet until the moment you say I do. I am not here to scare you but please be very careful with whom you trust your manhood with. This world is very dangerous and we are very far away from our country.
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| | Monday, January 22, 2001 - 03:16 am Hello All, About the above mentioned sad story of the poor Economist guy reminds me how careless are most somalis men including myself. He is economist but his wife can't read or write!!! Why on earth he didn't help her to improve and win over her ignorance?? IF he thinks not her, why not he though about the future of his kids? she is the mother of his childrens? she is the first and finnest teacher of his childern, so why he didn't care about her? He want something from her but not ready to give anything?? I can heard the voices of many misleadead, disappointed,misused,and damped women from all cornner of the world, and I cannot do nothing to help them...since the battle between the east and west ended up on the heard of the women.... I can say nothing but keep up the fight and hope that better may come tommorow
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| | Monday, January 22, 2001 - 09:04 am GettoGirl That was neat especially the "PMS" one. Are they threatened of our independence? Or my be that We don't want to be their slaves? Hmmm...
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| | Monday, January 22, 2001 - 10:00 am LOLOLOLOLO If anything, I concede somalis are pure comics. Thank you all for the great laughter, I like the first and second story, plus Hebel's comment of "garbage is piling up". From somalis I think I have seen everything, or did I ?. SOM against the world, SOM against each other, SOM men and women against each other, coming soon to a theater near you, SOM children against their parent. Boys and Girls lets admit, we insult each other, we cuss each other, at the end we kiss and hold each other. So I congratulate you on your story telling talents, keep us laughing somalis. Much love
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| | Monday, January 22, 2001 - 12:10 pm We send you much love Sirrus. You too are a comic...the ashen faced, red lipped clown that prances hither and there among the crowds, trying to convince all those who listen of your intelligence, while donning an indigo suit that screams pure stupidity... NOW, that I've got that out of my system, I apologize-it was uncalled for. I am in somewhat of a dark mood today and wanted someone to take it out on-I'm sorry it had to be you Sirrus, you seem like a nice guy. But never the less, thank you for the compliment about my story. Comedy wasn't exactly what I was looking for...I intended drama, romance, suspence, tragedy, as well as the usual chills and thrills all rolled into one. If you happened to miss any of these attributes in this true true story, what can I say...we were all never meant to be critics.
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| | Monday, January 22, 2001 - 12:45 pm My lady What can I say.... indeed. Forget not, that I am a Somali male and so will only laugh at your impotent malice toward Somali males, such as your story illustrate. I am sure you meant to write a rich story full of "drama, romance, suspense, tragedy, as well as the usual chills and thrills all rolled into one", It is obviously unfortunate that I inform you, your attempt appeared so: just another insult to Somali males every where. I hope it was not your intention to this end. As for your gloomy day, my condolences, I too have a girlfriend and I am sympathetic to your endless hormonal cycles. Try to vision several days down the road, you will certainly be more sociable and less anti males. I am also sorry my intelligence left you in retaliatory mode. Without reducing this debate to back and forth retaliation, as they say, take my criticisms with a grain of salt. May I also suggest, some Advil and Anti-blowth or cramps medication. Much love
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| | Monday, January 22, 2001 - 01:21 pm Dear Sirrus, you certainly have taken the Lady's jest quite seriously. "Impotent malice toward men"?-no. But alas, what can I say, what can I do, how is it I am to feel...I am but only a Somali girl whose every action of anger, of jest,of love, of want must be explained away as, as "endless hormonal cycles". Sigh! I shall retire now, maybe tomorrow-yes, tomorrow I shall return. Until then... Adieu, Adieu.
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