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SomaliNet Forum (Archive): General Discusions: Archive (Before Jan. 23, 2001): SOMALIA SHOULD BECOME AN EFFECTIVE MEMBER IN THE OAU RATHER THAN THE ARAB LEAGUE.
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All Blacks

Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 07:48 am
What would we benefit running after arab nations whom we have no borders with?
It is time we become an effective member of the OAU as we used to be. We should seek african alliances both political and economical. I think this will have a long term benefit for us.

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AKA_HONIC

Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 09:34 am
We should go after both, the reason being we in our current state could use all the help we can get. The OAU, is important because of black unity, plus common boarders, the Arab league because of a common religion. And if you are a believer of it, a common ancestry.

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DuH

Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 10:33 am
allblacks

bitch get your self a bleach,black motherfucker.DuH

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Alipapa

Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 05:02 pm
all black,

i see nothing but identiy crisis here. What the AOU did for us?. we see how arabs help our poor black asses for the sake of being arab-wanabee. AOU is broke league while arab league is rich baby. do you hear me ?. viva arab league.

instead of being AOU member who pays money to the league, i would rather be arab wannabee who gets some $$$ for my dying-of-hunger nigroes kids from arab league.

Alipapa

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SUMMERTIME

Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 05:40 pm
SO ALL OF U BELIEVE WE CAN'T SURVIVE WITHOUT HELP FROM SOMEBODY, U SEE THIS THE REAL PROBLEM.
IF U ARE PHYSICALLY REFUGE, DON'T BE MENTALLY REFUGEE IF U UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING. I HATE TO SEE THIS PPL WHO ALWAYS TALK ABOUT HELP, ASSISTANCE, AND THAT SORT OF RUBBISH. DOESN'T ANYBODY THINK WE CAN DEPEND ON OURSELVES

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Deep Thoughts

Saturday, January 20, 2001 - 07:28 pm
Does anybody have a cookie, I really want a cookie. I am have a sugar attack, reach out and give me a cookie. Magic word included...Please.

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Anonymous

Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 05:41 am
I guess some of the readers are missing the point. The author of this article has no other purpose but to denigarate and debase the Arab nations. He/she might have some vested interest that we're all unaware of. So, please be extra careful when you come across defamatory articles such as this one.

It seems that the author might have even been deported by some of these Arab countries he's talkin badly about. If he/she was sincerely after the unity of Somalia, he/she would have stressed and emphasized things that would facilitate that goal. Among other things, Islam is worth mentioning here. Perhaps, it's our last hope for an everlasting peace and unity. Where will you find that? Of course, in the Arab World and not from a bunch of infidels like the O.A.U.

On the hand, if you wish to consolidate our unity by way of politics. Again, the Arab alliance would be more viable. As a matter of fact, the African continent is changing face. The other day Kabila was assassinated. That's indeed the destiny that awaits all of the African head of states. Their whole hopes are in shambles. It's just a matter of time before whole nations in the black continent of Africa rise agains their absolute rulers. Seen all this, I think it's not Somalia's best interest to further their alliance with other African countries. At least, not at this juncture of its history.

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All Blacks

Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 05:47 am
To Ali-mama and the Masaakiin with no money, Read this:

" In spite of now very loud complaints about aid and compassion fatigue, Africa has never really featured significantly in the geo-strategic and political/economic calculations of western powers. For one thing, they were able to extract strong political subservience with very limited investment and pressures. It was the only region that gained nothing, absolutely nothing, from the cold war in spite of the subservience of the majority of African states to the supposedly "generous" Western alliance. The dirty consequences of how Africa was used and discarded is now clear in countries like Somalia, the Sudan and Liberia. Military generals and corrupt elites, wearing medals and other decorations bestowed on them by colonial exploiters for visiting violence on their fellow Africans, were only too available for cooperation in the neo-colonial project. Thus the total investment of the United States in Africa is less than its investment in Brazil alone. In spite of trade with South Africa and Nigeria, no African nation ranks among the top twenty five locations for US investments. Exports to Africa averages about 2% of total US exports; and imports, including oil, is substantially less than ten per cent mostly with Gabon, South Africa, Angola, Nigeria, and Cameroon. Total US foreign aid, contrary to popular notions, went mostly to five Africans- Arap Moi of Kenya, Samuel Doe of Liberia, Said Barre of Somalia, Gaffer Nimeiri of the Sudan, and Hosni Mubarak of Egypt. It is not an accident that these countries along with a handful of others presided over by maniacal leaders are some of the most corruption-laden, poverty-stricken, politically unstable, highly debt-distressed, and mortgaged economies in Africa today."

Keynote address by Julius O. Ihonvbere at The All-African Student's Conference, Peter Clark Hall, University of Guelph, Guelph, Ontario, Canada, May 27, 1994.


Reliance on foreign aid leads to disasterous end. We can do it without them. Our country is full of natural resources, we should make use of them. For example, the South specialises in fruits, veges and rice. The North-East in fishery, the North-West in live stock.

To AKA HONIC

Common ancestry does not help at all, common interest is what matters. Arabs have not got the brains as simple as that. They may never attempt to invest in somalia and I think this is more important than humanitarian aid. We should over come the need for humanitarian aid. What we need is investments.

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Anonymous

Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 06:45 am
GOOD POINT ALL BLACK. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED, AND WE CAN THAT WITHOUT OUR HELP, I MYSELF ALMOST GRADUATING FROM COLLEGE, AND WHEN I AM DONE INSHALLAH I WANT TO USE MY KNOWLEDGE TO HELP MY SOM PPL, FOR THE SAKE OF OUR COUNTRY AND OUR FEATURE GENERATION. WE ALL NEED TAKE THE FIRST STEP TO GET RECOVERED FROM THE DISASTERS THAT WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH......
PEACE ........

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Anonymous

Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 06:47 am
OOPS CORRECTION I MEANT WITH OUT NO HELP FROM OUTSIDE.......

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alipapa

Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 07:46 am
all black,

And the point of this article being?.

alipapa

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DominoPizza

Sunday, January 21, 2001 - 11:41 pm
IF I WERE TO CHOOSE,
I WILL CHOOSE ARABS NO MATTER WHAT, THEY ARE BETTER THAN MILLION BLACK LEADERS WHO ALWAYS THINK OF "UGALI" AND "FUFU"

THATS MA VOTE" I PRAY TO GOD NEVER TO LEAD BY BLACK OR EVEN ETHIOPIAN IN ANY FIELD OF MA LIFE.


PizzaBoy
15yrs old(no comment plz)

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Ice-Man

Monday, January 22, 2001 - 01:12 am
Lol @Ugali @Fufu

Later