     XAAJI_CIISE | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 11:26 am
For my entire adult life, the Somali women I have dated all of them have been, without exception, selfish, self-centered and, in fact, word, and deed: self-obsessed.
Over time, my intial generousity and tolerance have been all used up by the women who have used, exploited, and burned me in order to pursue their own personal short-term gratification and goals. And, it certainly has not been limited to somali women in general but those who even belonged to my sub-clan with whom I could have had supposedly could marry without hassle.
the women who have called me "friend" have actually used me in often far more unfair ways by expecting the same deference and pandering to their whims that they would expect in "romance", without the rewards of deep connection and intimacy.
now am pondering on giving up on them. i will be heading back to celibacy. i will abstain sex and i will most definitely join to a sufi order or some other religious group that does volunteer and outreach missions |
| Guilty | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 11:35 am
oh my god
that was very funny damn, your mad ahhh
they used you and you became there delivery boy and there so called nice guy ahhhhh
Look at you nowwwwwwwwwww
poor young boy, hey play this game to win.
You can also became member of my cult
free off charge aight. |
| advicer | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 01:16 pm
my brother go for ajnabi woman and live hassale free am married to 1 and i'am happy |
| Rahma | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 03:46 pm
Don't worry bro, most of the guys has been on your shoes just give more time and the right one will come.
Advicer stop giving bad advise like short term relationship with some un known white lady who can take his children away from him anyday and he will never see them again. Yeah you say your happy now that's what they all say for the first five years but what then. you will be single and sorry.
atleast that's what I think. If your a girl and you marry non Somali guy it's totally different case. But I believe Farax should always stick with Haliimo or he will be sorry like so many cases I have seen
Bye. |
| SurReal | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 04:58 pm
Oh Boo hoo !!! Got shot down a couple of times eh, and now he is calling it quits. Any man should know that women are complicated folks and no matter what culture or creed, they fall into many different categories. It just so happens you have been dealing with one type of them and now you condemn all Somali women. What, you need assurance??? Well let me tell you this, baby boy needs some growing up to do for you haven't learned the essence of a relationship, obviously one would know from the beginning if there is equal sharing and mutual givings in the relationship. If one side was lacking in the matter, you wouldn't immerse yourself in these dreadful relations, but no like a fool you were bought by a couple good looking broads. Now you sound like a broken record, can't run from your luck you know. The problem is with you, perhaps you have to play a little hard to get instead of being tricked by these vixens. I know this may seem harsh, but take it from me, there are sisters out there with no mercy, and only after your time, cash, and services. So much for sincerity you say, well maybe if you conceal your feelings for a bit longer before you divulge too much to a woman you hardly know. So what I ascribe for a pitiful brother such as yourself is to analyze your relations with these women of your life and look at your actions for more than likely they are what lead to you being in this sad condition. |
| kamal | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 05:25 pm
Xaaji ciise
feel yeh, don't think wana b yeh, yes 4sure wana join yeh... give me the details when you find a good meeting place for the sufi, i been practising celibacy for a while i might just consider adding deeper meaning to it bro.
c/salaam
I know i can allways count on the love my Lord Allah[swt]...
Hold on bro it is islamic duty to marry, marraige constitutes half your Islamic duty...Allow the sufi business bro, when you have exhausted all available sources of somali girls... there is allways the MAIN market straight back to the HOMELAND... plenty of single females there...
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| Poisonous. | Saturday, February 03, 2001 - 06:05 pm
Xaaji Ciise, you are either plain stupid or you must be the most unfortunate Somali man alive! lol. Either way, do not give up. There IS a beautiful and guileless Somali woman out there, who can make a husbund out of you. |
| Alipapa | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 12:17 pm
xaaji ciise,
welcome on board man!. I've been saying to somlis males stay away from Somali females all along. It is not one or two or three. It is the Damn somali culture. It is the way they were raised up. By nature, Somali women are insecure. And this lack of security force them to be manipolators and to maime their husbands.Unfortunately, to live with Somali woman under one roof, means you either abuse her or take abuse from her. And yes! they are self centered and the most greediest humans beings. They don't know how to make money nor how to save. They eat their men up like wood on fire.
Xaaji ciise, you don't need to join sufi for the sake of not getting the right woman. Any woman from any other culture is better than ours when it comes to marriage. I know it is hard for you to marry other cultures, but trust me on this women are international. Just approach any woman you liked and make the move. I swear she will be happy to know how most of somali men are good for their family. By nature i find somali men are family oriented. to get good woman is just one move away from you xaaji ciise.
And don't ever listen what they say "There are good somali women out there waiting you". Tht is what they all say. They are all the same. I say all of them as long as she is somali raised up in Somalia. Somalis who were raised different cultures except arab culture are better than those animals raised in Somalia. My favorite are sujui raised up in kenya or Tanzania. that tells you it the culture. It is how they see women-men relationship. It is cancer thing in their bones.
It is what expected from men in somali culture and what is expected women that suck. Men are expected to be fire woods while women are expected to be the fire that consumes the fire woods.
Women would never be resoponsilbe in somali culture. They are treated like kids. Whatever happens is man's faults. Here in west Somali women are known to start assaulting their husband when can't get her way out. And when the poor huband cann't take it and respondes, she calls 911. And then it was all men's fault. What a double standard!
Again, you don't need somali woman. you need any woman that needs a man. And they are out there. all you need is make the move.
Alipapa |
| kamal | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 12:32 pm
Alipapa
You deep bro...
From experience i did marry a non-somali woman to tell you the truth... human is human, woman is woman...
Only thing i gotto make sure next time is that she is a good muslim... i don't care if she is even pakistani...
Man needs a woman and it is in his best interest to be blind....
 all my somali friends gonna kill for being honest... nah
I'll give it my best shot to try and find a somali soul mate if i can't it is my duty to accept the first good muslim woman and be happy...
The whole point is to increase the muslim nation...
Honesty is my weakest point! sisters hate if you like Allah[swt] will reward me for it...
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| Ausab | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 02:09 pm
Alipapa = old man
Kamal, alipapa deep?
I used to think you were. Not anymore.
Those of you who are so intent on marrying non-Somalis, go ahead, you are self-haters and we don't need you in the race. You will weaken our blood.
Your children will not be counted among us, so consider yourself the last generation- the last Somali in your lineage! The puck stops here with you! What a disgrace, your ancestors are turning in their graves. |
| Idil | Sunday, February 04, 2001 - 02:37 pm
If the Somali woman is so EVIL, just remember you are from HER!
When you hate her, you hate yourself. We are one people, some of us are males and some females, 50/50 destiny.
Because you have low self-esteem, you hate yourself, what you really want to say is "I hate Myself, I HATE ALL SOMALIS." But you can't come out and expose yourself, you want to perserve what little dignity you have left. So you attack HER, yes, SHE is the closest thing to you on this earth, same in everyway, except one, so use that one quality as a blank slate to project all your anger and hatred. SHE is responsible for all your misery, isn't she...you're only fooling yourself! |
| Hibo | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 06:20 am
Surreal: I couldn't agree any more sis......Well done!!
Poison: I am glad to see u talk.....sensible......for once....lol.. N I am not stalking u ....just a compliment...!!
XaajiCiise: Don't give up on us bro.......Not all women r heartless, selfish beings....Don't indulge urself in another relationship....just look around....n search for that soul with whom u click.. Its good to take breaks....u will get to know........urself deeper, see what u want clearer.....n live life contendedly.....so bro...CLOSE ur eyes......BUT don't SHUT them!! |
| kamal | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 07:46 am
I am human Ausab, would you rather i commit sin and sleep with strangers.....
Listen sisters
I got married when i was in my first year at unversity... i had just my grant and she didn't even care...ok..
All i am saying is that... i can't find any sisters that can appretiate what i have to offer which is far more important then what is in my pocket...
Please don't try to give that story of how you thought i was someone and now you think i am nothing!!!
I made my choice and i'll make it again and again and again.... do you hate me cos i can go out there and take care of my needs... do you think i care what you think of me, all that matters to me is that i try to live by the laws set by my lord most high and mercyfull Allah[swt]...
would you marry me for who i am??? answer me
would you even consider investing your time and effort into someone that has no money....
habiibi antu jahil iskud maya anfa antum akhbar....
My lineage... come again... please start a clan discussion again... i am stupid to even be taking the time address you walaalo.....
Listen if you what to save my lineage what do you say let us get married... i am sure there is something unique about me that needs to be saved and assimilated into the somali gene pool... wakeup and listen to your ignorant belittled self...
You made me angry and i'll not feel any sorrow if it corrects your perception of me...
i am sorry truely feel your cause to save our people..... call me a coward i could not hold back the preasure that was building in parts of my male heritage... but walaalo you have no idea of the problems guys got to go through to contain their gene fountain...
Females got only what 4-6 day a month to deal with honmonal imbalance........ WELL for your information our system has us dealing with moods ever few minutes.
Too much testosterone is what is making your people fight so much......... go carry out the reaserch on the behaviour of the somali people and you might reach the same conclusion that it is the high levels of testosterone that are cause soo much agressive behaiour...... and mental illness...... ONLY MY THEORY no proof.....
I need a soul mate and you wana judge me???
Idil i don't hate myself i just did not botter to get to know my people i was intemidated by all the rules and regulations involved with the process of somali courting......simple
Do you want a grown man to go on his knees and beg you pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee marry me......
It don't work like that no more walaalo, i had dreams and hope and plans just like any somali male:-
-finish uni
-find a job
-find a wife
-make 10 babies
-and be happy ever after
-may be one day make a contribution to help somalia
Well you know what i could not wait so there kill me..... I ran from statements and alligations of sisters who just looked down on us because the system don't recognise or value our importance.... cos the system devalues us does that mean you too should.......
where is the love in pointing your finger at us....
check this
-i don't chew
-i don't drink not even tea
-i don't smoke
-i don't believe in relationships before marriege
-i do my best and work hard without any recognision
we are all alone in one way or the other but if we can't get some support while we try to improve ourself then please reserve your judgement.....
Allahu kabiir
Any female that is willing to recognise your importance based on what u have in the bank has less sense then she thinks..... you all say
-i don't mind if only he has an education..lie
-if only he has good faith...lie
-if only he is cute...lie cos u don't mension rich
Truth is i could not figure out your games so i gave up trying and hence did not botter to wait...i am just a dumb fool... don't feel no lose you are right somalia is better off without people like me....
subhaan allah
Just make sure you know what you are talking about next time walaalo..... there is a lot of testosterone filling up this forum.....
Any brother that is man enough will not follow in my foot steps just because it was what was most convenient for me...... DON'T DO AS I DO... DO as i say.... i'll risk being hybocritical but i think everyone should stick to their own unless they are named kamal the impatiant.....
As for sister that thinks that i have no respect for somali females..... that is entirly your opinion....
*************
It is my opinion that any nationality that is soo poor and yet has weddings in HILTON, SHIRYTON, BOAT, AIROPLANES and someday outerspace in the Meer space station..... has already signed it's death warrant....
Any female that wants a good man better be willing to help in his education, entertainment and at least emotional support.......
Alhamdullilah the Somali sisters that have been there for me for many years and understand me, don't think like some of you......
salamu calaycum |
| Ausab | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 08:17 am
Kamal,
You totally misunderstood me!
Lineage is not equal to tribe.
It means family line! Mother & Father side, people who contributed to who you are today, both genetically and by providing you with the heritage and culture you have today!
I don't know where you got the qabil part! Typical Somali to read qabil into everything!
People all over the world have lineage without ties to qabil!
Oh and I didn't mean to put you on a pedestal bro!
It's just that I read some previous comments were you sounded intelligent....
P.S. I never insulted you personally so please don't call me an "ignorant belittled self"...it hurts my feelings  |
| Concern sis | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 09:26 am
Kamal
Listen br, I surely, admire your honest, and you seem to have many ponts here.My advice to yu, stop feeling sorry for yourself! you seem a Good Muslim, just put your Trust in to Allah (swt)and Every thing will be just fine \Insha,allah...O ye..getting married to other Nationalities ...I believe...as long as That person is *Muslim* that is what counts....our Natinalty is "Islam" at least Mine...LOL......so realy go a head and get married who ever, you feel happy whit..I am same baot whit you!
Peace |
| T-GIRL | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 12:33 pm
There goes another whimp who is complaining about us.
Let me tell you something XAAJI Maaa Caleesh..... If U turn to abstinence and abstain from impurities U are doing URSELF a favour.....So don't act like it is our fault and U doing us a great favour by turning into a Sufi.....
U make me sick......And FYI U need to get the "101 ways to attract a woman, A dummies guide".....Coz looks like U need a lotta help in the female department. No wonder U get used and abused......One word.....WIMP
Peace
Urghhhh Im so alergic to Sissy Boys |
| kamal | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 02:03 pm
Thankyou concern sis love you for accepting me for who i am.....i am not feeling sorry for my self..... i am happier with myself and what i have done for myself then any man i know..... Alhamdullilah allah[swt] has give me more then i can ever be truly thankfull for...
Ausub i told you already the level of testosterone in my blood is higher then you can imagine... my brain has less blood in it then is in my little finger, somehow there has been a migration of my blood cell south for the winter where it is warmer..... forgive me for my mis-understanding..... hahahaha you thought i was intelligent sister if i was i would have had all you sister figured out already..... you are conversating with the test dummy... you seen them ads where they crash cars that is me..... dumb...
Istakhfurullah
*sign*
Believe me i banned myself from going near somalichat because it caused my blood to boil i used to used ever sick word ever invented and a few i madeup...... walaalo
feel sorry for me i lost the the battle to know how to play the somaligirl game but inshallah i will win the war against somali ignorance... i am ready i am willing to contribute to improve the land of my parents... only thing i ask is please accept my choice of parner in life..... unless you are willing to be one of my four wifes?
I got more then enough for 8 but only 4 is halaal...
We must...
-Stop analysing the insignificant portions of those usefull to the improvement of the nation
-Work to educate those like me on how to integrate into the main stream and be productive to the cause
-Give love without condition to our brothers and sisters
-Value those that are far from intelligant..hehehe
-etc
you hear........
I am human...I am human...
I am human...
I am human...
I am human...
I am human...
I am human...
I am human...
I am human...
Let me just check one more time... aaaaaaaaaaaaa i am for a second i thought i might just escape the thought and see an allien in the mirror.....
It is the testosterone i tel you it is playing with my mind..... i am considerating submitting my name to this agency that imports Bosnian muslim women for men in the west, cant you all see i am desperate.......NOT
I pray allah[swt] cures my illnesses and frustrations and desperation for no woman on earth could ever actually solve my problems
Istakhfurullah my mind is so dirty... i don't blame somilnet forum all it does is inspire it... i guess.......
I fear soon i'll have to ban myself from somilnet forums just as i did somalinetchat..... all i have left to try is voicechat *grin*
I hmmmmmm look people most my statements start with I, i declear myself "SELF CENTRED"
LIST of amasing truths about me just keep growing.....
Forgive 1 and all if i have emotionaly distrubed or damaged you in any way.....
please don't worry about me i have been given more confidence then is required by 10 LIONS... i am a surviver i know my limmits...
Bo-Hooohoooo sob... i never thought i could get so much love from somali sisters in my life sob.. sob...... C-yeh |
| Anaximander | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 02:21 pm
Kamaal
You are funny loool!!!!
join the Suufis their main headquarters in Somali inhabited territotie is Erigabo, they chew qaad and dance and read Quraan(sing rather but they have wifes if i am not mistaken??
alipapa
loool!!! you are wrong brother, Somali women are ten times harder workers than men, and they manage the family money much better, Somali men are majority wise brain dead they will let their kids starve and spend the money on chaad that is plain stupid, i am not a subscriber of the ancient Somali male role, No No, we are the new men of Somalis we can read, write and cook loooool!!!
Ciao!! |
| advicer | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 02:47 pm
kamal i feel your frustration brother i was once there too i waited for a good somali girl for too too long guess what she never came,i decided to cross over and marry from a different race&culture because of the simple fact that i couldn't find a somali sister who appreciates my good quilities the good guy deep down in me,every single one i met had an emotional problem
some blame me for FGM some blame me for the civil war back home others blame me for not being able to find a good paying job,excuse me but i only got here few years ago and this is not my forefathers country am an outsider just like you,others were plain gaalo wannabe take me out do this for me and do that meet my standards
i got confused and torn between the war in my country this society that disrespects me and my values and my own fleshing blood somali girls who hate me for simply being who i'm!!
thats why i crossed over and found someone who appreciates me for who i'am someone who takes me for me and just me am poor am tired am a refugee she said i don't care as long you have a good heart in your chest
i'm not proud of what i did but i had to am a human being just like my brother kamal i don't drink or chew or bad mouth women but we all need a comforting hand
stop judging us
ciise the choice is yours my brother i have made mine |
| kabaweyne | Monday, February 05, 2001 - 05:05 pm
too bad ciise try chinese women |
